Why Did DICE Kill Battlefield's Best Mode? (Rush)

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  • @wellybawb
    @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Are you a fan of Rush?

    • @R.R.R.465
      @R.R.R.465 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Getting spawn locked as a defender with no counter 10/10. Dropping into unbalanced lobbies, half way through a match. Priceless

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@R.R.R.465 Is this an issue in 2042 or are you saying it’s a legacy issue throughout the franchise?

    • @LeWacoKid
      @LeWacoKid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the only mode I play.

    • @Ursea_Erika
      @Ursea_Erika ปีที่แล้ว

      I play mostly Breakthrough cause here in Australia, Rush is barely ever populated

    • @kloa4219
      @kloa4219 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is great but it depends on the map design. I liked Port Valdez since it was linear, open, fresh, and destructible

  • @p.c8281
    @p.c8281 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Never been a huge fan of rush, but i see where you’re coming. The stakes in rush just feel higher, besides team play in rush is so much better than in conquest

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! Conquest is all flag hopping, with no defending. Typically at least.

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stakes, not steaks

  • @keithpeterson9000
    @keithpeterson9000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with you, and add this. During Bad Company 2 clans were extremely popular. Clans would have their own website, invite new members, it was a community and pride in Clan tag. Playing as a squad with people you only knew from being in a clan in a small game mode like Rush was the pinnacle of Battlefield. R.I.P. clans, community, friendships, and teamwork.

  • @NeroLordofChaos
    @NeroLordofChaos ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most memorable games I had in BF4 was a Rush match on Zavod. We were the defenders and we got pushed into the factory pretty quickly. After clearing one of the bombs, I dumped a C4 charge directly on top of it and hid around the corner and waited until I heard them arming it and detonated the C4. Like 4 or 5 kills off that single action. They hunted me down afterwards, set off the bomb and we got pushed all the way to the final defense point. I took up a hold on one of the towers over looking the northern lane and kept machine gun fire going on every enemy I saw.
    We won that match. It was a near thing, but when we were all forced into that last defense, we held like no other.

  • @zenovcns6024
    @zenovcns6024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the momentum feeling from rush where you blitz down the enemy and win with coordinated attacks before they can set up defenses

  • @Woud_
    @Woud_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember once teaming up with some friends in Rush and we beat each point in like 5 minutes. I felt so cool to mow down in the level!

  • @kevinmeisterr
    @kevinmeisterr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started playing Battlefied with Bad Company 1, at first online was Rush only, later on we got an update/free dlc that added conquest. Rush was such a good gamemode specially in Harvest Day.

  • @fcsomerta7680
    @fcsomerta7680 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Rush always had better style gameplay, better way to enjoy maps and most importantly better teamplay

  • @olivierboudreau6524
    @olivierboudreau6524 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    To me breakthrough feels basically the same, and you need better teamwork to cap an objective with like 12 people on it than just destroy a bomb (which also can't be retaken by the defenders)

  • @TheDaidai05
    @TheDaidai05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started with bf3, rush on damavand peak with the base jump was awesome. Most of my time in that game was spent playing rush especially since i was on console and had lower player count for conquest compared to pc (64 v 32 players). Then when bf4 came out I didn't play it as much as bf3, mixture of reasons buggy release could barely even play the first months. Then when I started playing more regularly Bf4's maps were clearly conquest focused with not as much thought for rush. And that trend continued

  • @LtVictor
    @LtVictor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We need rush. We need little boxes to blow up. I crave the gold crates. The nail biting moments down to the last spawns and seconds hearing the WHOOP WHOOP sound before it blew up.

  • @Barmitta
    @Barmitta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice editing man keep it up

  • @tomrudyt
    @tomrudyt ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said, I agree 100%! Great job on the video, Sllew

  • @Calagan905
    @Calagan905 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played BC2 for 1000+ hours, first FPS I ever played and it was just insane, I have so many great memories. I bought 2042 3 weeks ago and I've only been playing rush since. I actually agree with you, it's nowhere near BC2 level but it's more than playable and I'm having a ton of fun.
    I just feel like there's some balance issues sometimes but I wouldn't know what to change to resolve it. Some games feel just so one-sided to the point that it actually becomes really frustrating. Other than that and a few maps that are not designed for rush, it's really fun.
    And the nostalgia when Arica Harbor or Valparaiso are next is crazy, the themes are just so iconic, goosebumps every time. Great video !

  • @_Darth_Vader_
    @_Darth_Vader_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been loving XL Rush (64v64) in BF2042. Wish they made it permanent but it cycles through limited time mode.

  • @joshualarsen7011
    @joshualarsen7011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree - Especially as an infantry player, I really like Rush, and am a big fan of similar game modes like Push in Insurgency Sandstorm. I think these game modes create really engaging and meaningful-feeling battles and encourage teamwork. Also, Battlefield 4 is the Battlefield I've played the most, and I still enjoy it's Rush maps! Although I did also enjoy what I played of Breakthrough in BFV and BF1 - but I think Rush is more interesting.
    Good points, good video!

  • @Vislav
    @Vislav ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason I play Battlefield is the Rush mode. It's amazing because it requires teamwork but also you can do a lot by yourself if you know what to do. I used to sneak into enemy base to plant the bomb and defend it by myself until it explodes. The sense of achievement and joy is something else.

  • @eliel1815shadow
    @eliel1815shadow ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro, the fact that there is deathmatch in big maps on Battlefield 2042 speaks a lot

  • @luigifromsonic6978
    @luigifromsonic6978 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember it vividly my dad used to play bad company 2 i was like 10 and i hoped on the first rush server i saw it was so great

  • @generalreign3483
    @generalreign3483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Convinced some friends to try 2042, we only play Rush in it and have been having a blast the last couple weeks.
    With how big the new maps are it's disappointing there are so few rush maps. They could easily have a couple layouts on each map.
    Some of the vehicle balance decisions seem wrong imo, I really wish portal allowed us to create boundaries and bomb locations. I hope they keep building on that idea could be something great.
    Rush has always been my favorite game mode. BF3 was peak rush for me (damavand peak, metro, sharqi peninsula, gulf of oman, wake island), I wish I tried BC2 rush with you saying that it was their best iteration.

  • @AofCastle
    @AofCastle ปีที่แล้ว

    It might be just the nostalgia but Rush has always been my favorite Battlefield Gamemode. Metro, Seine, Grand Bazaar, Kharg Island, Strike at Karkand, Firestorm. I loved playing those maps in Rush, both attacking and defending.
    In PC the problem is that often lobbies are giga unbalanced but in console when BF3 was the current game it was super fun. I hope they keep improving 2042, I don't like hating on something, I'd love if the game was as good as they promised.

  • @ownage11445
    @ownage11445 ปีที่แล้ว

    BFBC started Rush and those maps were specifically designed for that mode. Every map tailored for perfect defense and approach from the enemy team. On some maps you can take out the gold chest with just a C4 truck alone after a nice artillery barrage.

  • @fatihmtlm
    @fatihmtlm ปีที่แล้ว

    I just saw breaktrough, thought it is a new version of rush and din't look at rush yet. Now I'm gonna try.

  • @RangerLab
    @RangerLab ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush is the pinnacle of Battlefield for me. It's so much more cinematic than conquest (at least in Bad Company/BF3/BF4) Nothing is more satisfying that finally breaking through a hard defensive line and getting the last second plant or trying to hold out while your defenses crumble around you
    It's super satisfying to know I'm not alone in my love for rush, and to hear that someone had a similar story growing up with Bad Company 2

  • @watsondove849
    @watsondove849 ปีที่แล้ว

    The long linear maps made rush fun in the older games, now they just make big maps and stuff rush in as an afterthought

  • @andrewwilliams3207
    @andrewwilliams3207 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have so many good memories of BC2. Playing it on PC now with increased fov actually revives it a bit.

  • @4Skyrim
    @4Skyrim ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush and bf3's close quarters dlc were intense.

  • @comfyDev
    @comfyDev ปีที่แล้ว

    In retrospect I liked Rush. At the time it felt kinda weird going from Conquest Large to Rush, but it was a cool twist on the Bf gameplay. Also yeh, it is really weird how it got grouped with TDM for some reason.

  • @Le_Spam_Man2100
    @Le_Spam_Man2100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the Operations mode from BF1 is like a more refined version of rush. I like that instead of attacking/defending boxes it’s whole flag points like in conquest. It requires more strategy/teamwork on both ends and also prevents lame things like camping the Mcom or placing explosives all over it. Also vehicles aren’t as op when they have to assault a larger objective. Rush I definitely the best game mode but I feel like operations took what’s best about rush and improved on it.

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว

      Operations was really spammy at times though with how many players there were. Great game mode though!

    • @Le_Spam_Man2100
      @Le_Spam_Man2100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wellybawb I totally agree. Although explosive spam was kind of a problem for BF1 overall. I’d rather take BF1 explosives over BF4 explosives tho. They only have so much range in BF1 whereas in 4 you can get killed in your spawn by a UCAV before you’ve even entered the battle.

  • @jordansmith4826
    @jordansmith4826 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t understand why they have hidden it in the menus and replaced with breakthrough. They should just have all three of them centre stage on the landing page

  • @jeanadames8230
    @jeanadames8230 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t play any of the BC battlefields but I can say only thing: the peak of rush games were probably on BF3 with maps like damavan peak.

  • @Reewen
    @Reewen ปีที่แล้ว

    People mistaking rush for tdm or simply not caring is a problem in older battlefields as well. In BF4 the only game modes that are still played are rush and conquest, so instead of making tdm servers a lot of tdm players just play rush. It's so annoying, sometimes the entire team would just play for kills instead of trying to get an objective. This especially happens on maps like locker.
    Also I totally agree about the smaller game sizes. When I play the older battlefield games I mostly play 32 or 16 player games. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of these servers left so I have to play 64+ player games

  • @tyleryoung306
    @tyleryoung306 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are a lot of great modes that Battlefields had over the years. I am super happy that Rush is back and in a great state. I love Breakthrough, and I love Conquest. But there was also a type of scale and excitement that was felt when playing Grand Operations or Frontline on BF1.
    I hope for the next Battlefield to focus solely on Conquest, Breakthrough, Rush, and bringing back Grand Operations or Frontlines, rather than spend development time trying to make an extraction mode like Hazard Zone that didn't have any impact that can be carried over to other modes on 2042.
    I really think that Frontlines could actually work pretty well in 2042. Sad to see that it's non-existent.

  • @LD-sx9pr
    @LD-sx9pr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my only gripe with rush is that entering a vehicle doesn't change the kit to what I have, even when it's a freshly spawned vehicle, Otherwise I see it as a older and smaller ancestor to Breakthrough that's still fun on it's own reguard.

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว

      I literally never spawn in vehicles so I didn’t know this. That’s just bad game design, and annoying. Definitely understand.

  • @dakotaspann5633
    @dakotaspann5633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I wass enjoying rush Xl but they took it off and made Xl just on one map they need to bring it bacc Cuz it wass nice

  • @OOoOski
    @OOoOski ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad Company 2 nailed that game mode for sure. BF3 had rush designed maps as well: metro or damavand, but with 64 players it was way too hectic.

  • @matriix18
    @matriix18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best BF mode was Titan mode. They done fucked up with 2042. They should have made 2143

    • @neomachine855
      @neomachine855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Titan mode is like that perfect in between of Conquest and Rush, always baffled me why they never brought back that mode

  • @milkdudz3895
    @milkdudz3895 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember playing Battlefield 2: Modern Combat and enjoying the hell out of battlefield. Saw the demo for Bfbc2 drop and i think i put in 40 hours for the rush demo alone. I remember arguing that bfbc2 was much better that MW2 for a Modern Combat style game. Still my favorite battlefield to this date but might be a nostalgia bias.

  • @daisyela7102
    @daisyela7102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Rush mode even on the new 2042 also would love to see hardcore come back

  • @TacBans
    @TacBans ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally had a ton of fun with Rush in BF4, as i missed most of the BC2/BF3 heyday. I typically prefer it over Conquest, just the feel of progressing through a map is much more my style than the chaos of Conquest. Although, yeah, BF4 Rush maps are very hit or miss.
    While 2042 just really isn't my type of Battlefield game, I hope that future installments bring even better versions of Rush.

  • @tylersmith9942
    @tylersmith9942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush was my favorite! My go-to Mode during the Bad Company Days, BF3, and BF4. Now Operations was a different beast. I think that game mode took everything that i loved about Rush and amped it up to 11.
    BF5's Breakthrough was pretty good too. Not quite as impactful as BF1. But for some reason it just doesnt feel the same in 2042. I dont know if its the modern setting or what, (Or maybe that 2042 is just not a traditional battlefield game) but it feels pretty lackluster

  • @thebigsam
    @thebigsam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone, who thinks Rush is second only to normal Conquest, 2042 definitely has on of better Rush layouts of past decade. And I do agree with you: 50% of people who play Rush have 0 clue about how to actually play Rush. Damn people are garbage at defending and attacking MCOMs

  • @johnboy4955
    @johnboy4955 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush was my favorite and only game I would play on bad company 2. Shit actually felt like real war

  • @donovanlay5379
    @donovanlay5379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad company 2 Rush was undeniably the best version bf3 was solid but lacked bf4 you could tell they didn't care too much for Rush even the fan communities on bf4 still mainly play tdm and conquest with maybe 1 or 2 Rush servers which is sad. But Rush is a soild game mode all I played in bf3 and bc2 and bf4 even tho it lacked maps set up properly for the map. And tbh them having a dedicated Rush mode on 2042 with nostalgia maps is why I came back super happy to see hella ppl playing Rush again

  • @jaraldoe
    @jaraldoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly IMO, Titan mode was the best mode. It was unique, it had the classic conquest, but it actually meant something and you had an actual objective. Destroy the enemy titan, and when you destroy the titan from the inside and jump out the exploding super ship. There was nothing like it

  • @kirtonphilip1234
    @kirtonphilip1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will try it 👍🏾

  • @abritishbedouingaming
    @abritishbedouingaming ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @40pointsdrow63
    @40pointsdrow63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush has always been the best game mode.Bf3 did rush the best though the maps being designed for it and the destruction of buildings was perfection.

  • @barrymchawkenhugh2696
    @barrymchawkenhugh2696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like you said, the maps aren't made for it, and also the gameplay is a lot faster. In BC2 it felt more methodical and tactical, I guess, moving up with the team. It was like chess. It's still fun af in BF4 and 2042 though. And also being able to destroy the mcoms in other ways, like collapsing buildings on them, kept it interesting and made you seek out threats (like tanks shelling it). Or gave you alternatives as an attacker ie if you're being spawn camped by the whole team and make it through with C4 you can damage it making them think twice about not really guarding it. Metro and Damavand (and maybe Lockers) were the last great true Rush maps.

  • @iVETAnsolini
    @iVETAnsolini ปีที่แล้ว

    Smaller battlefield player counts is what made bad company 1 and 2 so good! Wish they’d focus on that as well and not battle royales would be amazing!

  • @Vislav
    @Vislav ปีที่แล้ว

    I am trying to play it but it's almost impossible to find a game nowadays. 😑😑😑

  • @LallyOfTheValley
    @LallyOfTheValley ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always felt Conquest was really boring and aimless. Pretty much just big TDM. Rush almost always has the focused intense battles with down to the wire moments that make it great. The only other game mode to do this for me was Hardline's Heist mode, which really made you use all the equipment and teamwork to deliver the objective.

  • @exole0014
    @exole0014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A G R E E D!!

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว

      Rush is a classic!

  • @avising8574
    @avising8574 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought i was the only one who noticed all these players being actual bots, DICE ended up making real people AI omg

  • @NathanFerYou
    @NathanFerYou ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer Rush. Better firefights that can happen whereas Conquest is just too chaotic for me. I think the scale is cool, but I much prefer to worry about 2 objectives ahead of me rather than 6 all around me and my squad is in 3 different objectives rather than focusing on one.

  • @ChrisHoHoHooooooo
    @ChrisHoHoHooooooo ปีที่แล้ว

    I think in a “certain way” battlefield games still have a ‘niche’
    Watching BF2042 gameplay looks a lot like call of duty, perhaps that’s why EA/DICE decided to put more focus on conquest where it’s plenty of run around shoot people, more than objective based gameplay.
    I enjoyed breakthrough in BFV and I played rush 80% of the time in BFBC2. I doubt I’d get 2042 until BF4 and BFV are dead dead.

  • @DaveNukem
    @DaveNukem ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad Company 2 Rush was my favorite

  • @blu_gouf477
    @blu_gouf477 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they would just re-release this game. Update the graphics and leave everything else exactly the same. I’ve never had as much fun on a FPS since.

  • @bodol4d2
    @bodol4d2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad company 2 rush mode was so amazing because maps sere mainly designed for rush, it wasn't as great for conquest

  • @MrCaxumba
    @MrCaxumba ปีที่แล้ว

    Operations in BF1 is the best mode that BF will ever have, in my opinion

  • @troypowers750
    @troypowers750 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush in BF4 was awfully designed, balanced, and reused conquest maps as a blueprint for all modes and that last problem has never been addressed since then because something something we can't waste resources because we'll get fired because experimenting is incredibly risky. Also, BF1 is not great. I remember that at 2042's launch, they decided to put an objective on the roof... with only a few ways up... and the attackers would be met with tanks waiting on roofs in 2 Breakthrough maps (similar to Rush anyway).

  • @RoyleVegeta
    @RoyleVegeta ปีที่แล้ว

    God rush was sooooo good in bfdc2 and bf3 after that with 4, hard-line, one, 5 and bf42 I don't touch it never felt as good as BC2 an bf3.

  • @wypas17
    @wypas17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea rush is my absolutely favourite mode, i play it on bf3 regulary. Havent played never bfs, except few hours in bf4 but it wasnt as good as bf3.

  • @Amioni
    @Amioni ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man you are talking about BFBC 2 rush this mode was unique only in this game

  • @Joe-wu8nm
    @Joe-wu8nm ปีที่แล้ว

    They made over 5+ versions of the game, if they TRULY wanted to make the best game possible, what we have now wouldn’t be the in state it’s in now. It’s all for them to keep control and to keep scamming us into thinking what we have is good enough when we’re paying MORE for LESS. the fact they didn’t have a scoreboard at launch shows they don’t care about what they give to us. We can’t even choose our own maps to play in a game WE PAID FOR. Think about it. Understandable to people who like what they play but this will be the new standard if we just accept the bare minimum when they’ve been able to give more variety at a high level like rush. They don’t care and I hope you all care to see that if we want the true battlefield back we have to stop playing and saying this game is great to show the company including other companies that we deserve better. You can clearly see the soul of bf is not here in 2042 even the music in this game sounds like there’s something wrong with the game itself. We can get better by being better as a whole!

  • @v.i.t.o_c.o.r.l.e.o.n.e
    @v.i.t.o_c.o.r.l.e.o.n.e ปีที่แล้ว

    128 rush game mode id really fun

  • @y3057
    @y3057 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was never a fan of Rush until 2024, specifically the lobbies hosted by xReckless on the portal mode. I'm not really a fan of Conquest on 2042 etc

  • @ItalianMetalHED
    @ItalianMetalHED ปีที่แล้ว

    I think bf3 was the best especially in suppression and takedown animations

  • @ineptjedi3621
    @ineptjedi3621 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you talking about? Battlefields best mode is still going strong. Conquest is the best mode by a massive margine

  • @Violentic81
    @Violentic81 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the best mode is still conquest. In bf2042 because of the all cod mechanics. We do no longer have the wonderfull Frontlines. U just ultra run slide grap bla none bf mechanics and go COD. The most fun part of BF was mostly on the urban maps. Because you had blocks and roads. And it was such a brilliant fight of defence and try to break trough a defence line to gain the advantage. Especically in 2042 the first time i enjoyed Rush. Because u have a kind of frondline again... We need a new BF and a real BF:(

  • @weezersthebluealbum9479
    @weezersthebluealbum9479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rush? That’s a funny way of spelling Operations.

  • @swapode
    @swapode ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd say that breakthrough is a better rush.

  • @K3nny24
    @K3nny24 ปีที่แล้ว

    BF Bad Company 2 was in the golden years of COD and the mechanics sucked. A BF3 trailer got me hooked so I went back to BFBC2 and hated it and couldn’t never get the chopper off the ground without killing everybody lol but all of BF3 I only played Rush because of the beta but BF4 got into Domination on the 360 and more of Conquest when I got the XB1 but now on 2042 conquest only

  • @sermboy94
    @sermboy94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bf3 metro rush was the best

  • @nnoffuture
    @nnoffuture ปีที่แล้ว

    I play rush every day… Tf is this guy on about

  • @therealtyrant
    @therealtyrant ปีที่แล้ว

    Because they can’t maps anymore lol

  • @michaelrichardson9626
    @michaelrichardson9626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never been a fan of rush. Just a meat grinder of a game mode. Conquest and front lines were the best modes breakthrough good just not with 128 players. Rush is really boring as if you have a good attack you walk thru the map and if your good at defending then you really could just spawn came them.

  • @MoisesHernandez-sw5pt
    @MoisesHernandez-sw5pt ปีที่แล้ว

    Frontlines was better 😶‍🌫️

  • @sharonbraselton4302
    @sharonbraselton4302 ปีที่แล้ว

    coppying halo brast mide mode chief love thàt

  • @AngelDire
    @AngelDire ปีที่แล้ว

    its actually conquest thats battlefield's best game mode

    • @wellybawb
      @wellybawb  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree to disagree my friend :)

    • @AngelDire
      @AngelDire ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wellybawb u stupid to think that conquest is the most played look for urself

  • @TheVisitorSNAFU
    @TheVisitorSNAFU ปีที่แล้ว

    Battlefield died around Bad Company.
    The last great Battlefield game was Battlefield 2.