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- It's a classic David versus Goliath struggle: Multi-billionaire and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has built a Gigafactory in Germany to produce electric cars. They are supposed to be environmentally friendly, but Tesla's factory is located in a water conservation area and a nearby wooded area is to be cleared for an upcoming expansion. Environmentalists are taking to the barricades. They have occupied the forest and erected tree houses to prevent the factory from expanding. How are they trying to stop Elon Musk? And will they succeed?
Chapters:
0:00 Occupying the forest
2:42 Tesla’s Gigafactory in Germany
3:27 An enraged citizen
5:55 Attack on Tesla
6:36 The water expert
8:06 Pro-Tesla citizens
9:38 E-mobility and the German chancellor
10:44 Mixed reactions from citizens
13:19 The role of the police
16:10 Tesla workers and protestors: Is dialogue possible?
19:11 Conclusion
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I'm 7 Minutes in and you guys haven't mentioned the coal mine that uses 170 times more water than the Tesla plant
- Or that this a monoculture Plantage.
- or that nearly every other factory nearby needs more water.
- that all of it was planted to cut down.
- that these guys don't have any clue how the world works.
@@KookyBone - or that it's not relevant and that it is about Tesla and what it represents - capitalist exploitators pretending to solve problems.
Hmmm now, if you do some slight research and see who these "environmentally friendly" folks are funded by, you might see some names and affiliation from VW Groups. I mean, they wouldn't do such thing, that's like saying they would cheat the omission tests. Besides, these guys also protest against oil and gas guzzling automakers too, right?
the coal mine which makes electricity for your e car^^?
@@KookyBone or that all you say is irrelevant because they protest against expansion, not the damage that's already been done.
They should protest infront of Mercedez, BMW factories too. Should tell them to produce only busses and trams.
Mercedes is one of the biggest Bus producer.
@@merzto correct. Tesla not so much. 👎
How does DW not see the obvious difference between a man made plantation forest and a natural forest.
They see it. But the A/B testing showed that "Tesla cuts down plantation for new Gigafactory" didn't get the same number of clicks.
A man made forest is still much much better than concrete
And its also about not polluting the ONLY body of water in the area
@@violettaschmieder2096 in what way could the site do that?
Plantation or not, there are trees that have potential to absorb carbon and become REAL FOREST. If you cut it down, you dont have that potential anymore.
We humans cutted down so much old forest that allowing new one to flourish would always be plantation effort. Its meaningless argument.
This is totalling misleading. Anyone who knows anything about this situation knows that it’s not a forest, it’s a plantation. These trees were planted to be cut down. You have a bunch of students who just want to feel like they’re doing something but have no idea what they’re doing. They should not only be listened to, but they should be forcibly removed from the trees.
Whether it’s a plantation or not, our mass production/consumerism needs to stop. EVs aren’t the solution to future transport, we should be investing in public transport but it’s not as profitable so we take the more destructive path instead. Musk couldn’t care less about the environment either.
Good on the people that are fighting back against these megacorps.
Democracy is about uninformed people making decisions together. There are majority rules, there are anti-majority measures.
Even so, you can't deny that very few factories have no impact on the surrounding water supply. Either from consuming much of the local supply or dumping their waste back into it.
Your comment is also totally misleading.
What happens after these trees get cut down and no factory is built?
I will help you.
Either young trees will be replanted or there will be natural regrowth and you will get a new forest coming.
These students think they save the planet and they are totally wrong.
Most people buying Tesla cars think they are saving the planet and they are totally wrong as well.
Building a Tesla is worse for the planet than building a combustion car.
@@Silks- _Whether it’s a plantation or not, our mass production/consumerism needs to stop._
Please just s.t.f.u.
The trees were planted for paper production. They are going to be cut down.
So then why are they protesting then?
@@OliverNorth9729 For the same reason, nuclear plants are banned in Germany
@@iakobkv271 Nuclear plants can avoid many of the woods in the world being cut down.
I live in Norway, our goverment wants to bombard the country in wind turbines to make money. Making roads thru forests, cutting down forests to make roads and turbines.
All while we do have another option nuclear. That only use 1/350th of the land wind turbines do for the energy it generates..
Im mad at Germany for closing down their nuclear plants without replacing them with new. Has increased the economic benefit for us here in Norway to cut down our forests.
And the neo-liberalists are going hard.
I did some math, based on UAE recent purchase and building of South Korean reactors.
Norway could easy take the transition to electric society and have enough power for what we estimate to use in 2060 by only building 3 nuclear sites. With 4 reactors in each site.
Total cost of 80-90 billion dollars (Abit high cost since it will be the first nuclear reactors constructed, so one is to expect abit higher cost than the experienced.)
Total land area used to power us to 2060 is 6km2 with nuclear power. While we need to use 2,100 km2 if we are to power ourselfs with windpower.
So these clowns dont own the land they are squatting on? Thats rich.
@@mrright1068 Watch the video.
If Tesla is going to make cars for the European market I would think it’s probably better for the environment if they are made in Europe rather than in China and then shipped to Europe.
True. Now they are getting Chinese made cheap electic cars there. What a shame.
They are making cars for both markets.
They make them in both parts, and get massive incentives from various governments to do so. Not sure how 'better' for the environment it would be tho. Since if you aren't clearing land and using water and possibly contaminating water in one area, you're doing it in another. You're basically just choosing where to dig a hole in a yard. If it's at the corners, in the middle or anywhere in between, it's still a hole.
@@ruekurei88energy cost of shipping will be affected by where the factories are
But the Europeans will ship there fabricated electric cars to Africa and the Middle East , so makes no difference. Your point is invalid
The area is designated for industry for nearly 25 years. BMW actually wanted to build a factory there in 2004 and in 2001 the people of Grünheide were in favour of this plant. Nobody was protesting then. The "Bebauungsplan" is more than 20 years old, so there was plenty of time to protest. And this plantation is not a forrest!
Guess Tesla isn't German, hence, the protests under the guise of eco-climate concerns.
7:28 *They are at risk of contaminating crucial bodies of water.* German fail.
By that logic, Norway has no forest at all then. Only plantations. 94% of land is privately owned, and alot is used for timber.
No they are forests, maybe not ideal virgin forests. But do fuction quite well as forests untill they are cut down. The longer they are left alone, the better forest it becomes.
If we use your logic too, then we can pretty much just cut down the 140,000 km2 of forest in Norway and make Tesla factories there.
@@MrDanisve- A forrest is
where various types of trees are planted more or less random and are allowed to spread by themselves.
A plantation consist of a single type of trees that are planted in straight rows, 4 meters apart to ensure sunlight and quick growth. Once the trees have reached a certain height, they are cut down, transported to a sawmill and turned into timber.
@@JanBruunAndersen yes, and this provides a more diverse ecosystem with a variety of habitats for animals and plants. Also natural forrest are mainly managed in Germany, but in a sustainable way. You take less timber out than can grow naturally. The ownership has nothing to do with that. Besides, Tesla compensated anyway by planting new, naturals forrests.
They’re angry because they can’t think of anything better as an alternative to oil.
Public transportation
There's nuclear, but they refuse it as well.
@@hugodelnegroMaybe if you live in a city but if you live in a more rural area is harder
No, its not the anti green right wing who is protesting, they never say no green transition if it means GDP. The ones protesting are the far left woke hipsters who want people to stop consuming and live in a 40sqm apartman with 4 gay friends and only use trams for transportation(soo basicly they want communism)
From where Roman gets his money ?
Others need to work to get by, camping in the woods for months is not feasible for some mortals..
People there dont use up much money at all and what they need they work for in the times theyre not in the forest, its rotating.
A lot of things there work without money, like they eat food that otherwise would be thrown away by germanys wasteful supermarkets that arent being regulated
BYD
@@ajnaughtin1 oh yes.. its logical
@@violettaschmieder2096 Interesting..
Big oil is paying them probably. That’s the only thing that makes sense there’s no way you can tell me that those people are naturally that dumb
Germany/EU: why can we compete technologically with the US or China??
Also Germany/EU:
Why are they not fighting ICE manufacturers like VW, Mercedes or BMW?
may be because these companies are german, perhaps.
Unions and Collectivism.
Because there is already a ban on selling new ICE cars starting in 2035. And yes individual EV will be to expensive for 80+% of the population in the westernworld, let alone the rest. Also apart from the environmental damage of mining the raw materials, there isn't enough of it in the world to replace ICE cars in use now. You want low cost, easy access transport, it will have to be mainly public transport and that is being lost due to costs. So people buy cars because they can't get to work without one. Mainly impacting low wage workers on early, late and night shifts somewhere in an industrial zone warehouse.
BIG OIL Pay them 🛢️⛽💰💰💰
ICE manufacturers also contribute to the issues these guys are against. Protesting the construction of an EV factory doesn’t negate the need to address environmental impact of ALL car manufacturers. Their focus on the gigafactory isn’t because it’s EV, it’s because it’s a massive factory in the middle of nature. It’s in no way absolving ICE manufacturers of responsibility.
Why do you keep calling a tree plantation, a forest? I rather have Tesla increase biodiversity elsewhere like they’ve done in the past and will do again.
???
Wants more public transportation, protests against a train station. Some disjointed thinking going on.
@@jasongaylard2547 You can't increase biodiversity. Nature isn't a supermarket. Read the definitions of the words you throw around.
Cooking with gas, Shouldn't they be pedaling a bike to drive a generator
Yep! The complete lack of self awareness is amazing.
Notice the use of propane instead of using an electric stove
That Forest looks a lot like a monoculture to me.
It is a plantation of single species, not a forest. DW show some numbers like total plantation area vs current plant area and future expansion, or a 15 year water level chart to see the plant's impact. Anyone can have an opinion.
best description of missing the forest for the trees
Anti-capitalist or anti-American but obviously not eco-activists; that term is about as believable as the product label "Environmentally Friendly".
Tesla should have chosen Poland instead of Germany in the first place.
Polish people still drive around on horses and donkeys. It would be too confusing for them to get a car factory.
@@kelzuya funny thing is that the smuggest people are the most ignorant ones.
"Proudly sponsored by VW" sounds appropriate for this video
The blond guy hasn't heard of Tesla taxi so that people don't have to own cars anymore, huh? I wonder what organic and renewable hair dye he uses. Sheesh.
Where are all these protesters for all the regular car factories in Germany?
Last time I checked BMW produces all their cars in space and don't require any land. Idk why can't Tesla do that. Especially elon can just build a factory in space with his rockets. I will also join the protest to protect the plantation trees.
am i the only one or you guys also laughed when the girl asked the police to resign and join them? i mean why they are living in another world than us?
Nah she propably knows how unrealistig it is but its important to still remind people that they dont have to support the destruction of the environment that sustains us all, like its about literal life or death of everyone so of course its important to remind people whats at stake and that they still have some free will left
Me as well, absolutely delusional
@@violettaschmieder2096 litterly about life or death ? you really think we are all going to die if we dont stop a ev factory from expanding ? People want to have cars and ev are better than ICE cars
Can't see the forest for the trees 🌲🌲🌲“An expression used of someone who is too involved in the details of a problem to look at the situation as a whole”. I don’t live in Grünheide and realize that this plant will change their quiet town forever. I also respect that the activists want to save the environment. However, we have all been thoroughly brainwashed by the oil and gas industry. If it weren’t for Tesla forcing the automotive industry to change, we would be driving fossil fuel cars for the next 50 years, so they need to keep making this change happen. I agree with the gentlemen at 8:06/20:35 minutes, there needs to be a number of solutions put forward to stop climate change.
Without humans turning to God theres no hope for humanity.
It’s always something … The German car companies are behind this harassment
If tesla fanboys say so...
I don’t believe what these environmentalists call for. Compare to ICE car and many old manufacturers, Tesla plant is much more environment friendly.
“We can’t continue this way… Not everyone can have a car” ok then be consequent and go demonstrate in front of each of the car factories in Germany…
Look, they’re opening a new road in Wuhlheide to expand the city cutting through a “real” forest where I play with my child, I was demonstrating there last week, and you were instead in your tree-house in a tree plantation. I was complaining about the fact that creating even more roads doesn’t bring down traffic congestion, not about an EV company manufacturing less pollutant vehicles which we one way or another need some millions of
7:28 *They are at risk of contaminating crucial bodies of water.* German fail.
The problem is that EVs are NOT less polluting, they just move the pollution in different parts of the whole chain. Less direct emissions while it is being used, way more for manufacturing, and for producing the electricity to run it. Say nothing for the insane upgrade we need to for production, the grid itself, and electricity storage. It's actually a mind boggling scale of grid upgrade we would need for this... Which comes with massive pollution, as well as usage of more land.
Overall, EVs being less polluting, is highly questionable at best, and straight up deceptive advertising at the worst.
@simonthekindcutthroat6324 The thing about EVs is the potential to be less pollutant is there. We currently lack the infrastructure to sustain that. We need more solar/wind farms. We also need to make vehicles smaller. Less weight = less energy consumed. One of the reasons why my only vehicle is a motorcycle. It may be gas powered but I get almost twice the fuel efficiency as a standard vehicle. If an electric bike was in my budget, I would have picked that. Bottom line is we need to change as a whole and that requires the government to get on board too to fund that level of change.
The problem I have with Tesla in general is Elon will move locations at the drop of a hat. If he feels like there is a better location that will allow him to skirt labor laws and give huge tax breaks, he'll abandon this factory easily.
@@simonthekindcutthroat6324 you need to look deeper into this to make a sound statement. EVs use way less parts and are faster to produce! But the main issue here is that scale of production is key to lower pollution per unit. ICE is at its peak and not much can be improved but EVs are just starting and scale will make them much superior to reduce pollution in the long run compared to ICE cars. Do you think only about now? The future is better without burning gasoline and I think that’s pretty obvious. The same counts for energy production! The sun can provide us with much more energy then we ever can use, and that’s just one kind of clean source. The point is we need to transition now and it will be not perfect in the beginning. Any delay will be painful later.
@@kaigogolin515
I understand the POTENTIAL of it. My problem is the way they are marketed to people. As if they were less polluting and better for the environment RIGHT NOW. You might think that's not an important thing, but I do. I think people have been okay with a lot of change in human history, because industry deceived them, politicians deceived them.
Making claims for what EVs are, that they aren't yet, is super unhealthy. It's the classic industry lying and lobbying for whats in their interest.
Industries need to be held accountable for lies and scaling back milestones and improvements that were promised in general.
Elon in particular is the wealthiest con man on earth.
In any case, I think for any of this vehicle situation to make sense for humanity, we would need to limit vehicle sizes, which are insane, and fundamentally redesign urban planning to not be so car centric. (Good lord most of the city space is just parking its mental)
That too, btw, was due to corporate lies and lobbying, hijacking city planning.
Simply switching from one energy source to another ignores the core issues, and gives an easy 'out' in people's minds instead of forcing change where it would be important. Same thing happened with the plastic industries pushing recycling as a solution, so in the end, nothing changes, while people felt good about themselves, having solved the problem. EVs will be the same distraction.
Funny: didnt know "Mixed reactions" meant almost everyone of the citizens is FOR Tesla :D
Eco-terrorists not eco-activists.
Electric cars are the starting piece for a fully sustainable, clean energy economy. Everything else will follow once we have enough electric cars on the streets.
Its not about the environment. The truth is, its about anti-capitalism.
Its leftism. They have no other purpose and this activism gives them that purpose.
It's not even always anti-capitalism or at least that isn't the root cause. The root cause is some syndrome where certain types of people wish to feel better about themselves and are achieving it by finding any possible cause that lets them lecture other people and protest about something. It's many of the vegans, the commies that became environmentalists after the initial cause died etc. Cause changes, syndrome doesn't.
@@cyberfunk3793 agree. I feel its people who have lost their perpose in life. Usually adults with no family or ones who havent built their own families. They’re ostracized and feel on the fringe so they glue then selves to these movements.
@@-Nobody-1 as if the only purpose of life should always be family and nature always comes last (if it ever does)? Has it occurred to you that people can be sincere without your bs popular psychology analysis? and what about environmental activists who have families? your explanation doesn't quite work on that one.
@@-Nobody-1yes, and they are also manipulated by the leaders of these "movements".
Let me guess if the factory goes away, the citizens will complain their town is dying but no cameras will show up.
Lmao, Berlin isn't going anywhere
Elon better bring robots here cos people definitely dont want to work here
The actual workers at the plant like Tesla and working there.
But why he also cooks with Gas ?
Maybe because there is no cleaner/legal/affordable alternative... Polluting in small scales doesn't matter, it's capitalism that drives the climate change.
@duncan.o-vic so you guys are way ahead, what you guys are talking about is the stage of humanity where we don't need personal transportation; I don't think any government is aiming for that, ev's are the future they are pushing. I think these guys just hate Elon
@@duncan.o-vicwhy are the protesters not fighting any of the German gasoline manufacturers? You are actually supporting more gasoline car production with this protest. It’s a shame and the protesters look like hypocrites.
@@duncan.o-vicgood that everyone don't try to justify it like you do 🤬
And building their houses from wood?
"What are you doing today guys?"
"We're going to save the world by protesting outside a factory."
"Oh great. So what is it.. an oil refinery? ..a petrochemical company? ..factory farming?"
"No, it's a company that makes electric cars, installs EV charging stations, builds energy storage solutions and manufactures solar panels."
"Oh. Ok then."
It's more about saving an already dry part of germany from drying out completely. They are already dealing with lack of water an forest fires. I don't support what those activists are doing, but also not how Tesla/Musk "deals" with that water problem.
(Hope my school-english is understandable, sorry :D)
Europe no longer deserves Tesla investment in their countries.
Vehicles are going to be built. Either in China where environment is largely ignored, or in Europe under enforced regulations. Push the manufacturers out of Europe, you end up with weaker Europe and considerably worse environment.
Some greens are living with their heads in clouds. They also managed to close nuclear plants in Germany, cleanest and safest power production after hydroplants, replaced by coal plants.
Why didn’t Roman just walked to the company instead of taking bus? And using the drill machine instead of hammer? And the other climbing equipments? Fighting against capitalism through capitalism. Such clowns.
Who's paying for the food?
Probably stolen from the local supermarket
It was me, I paid them to protest
So the environmental activists want more petroleum cars?😂😂😂 Im confused
EU ban on sale of new ICE cars goes into effect in 2035. So those are already on the way out.
Your speaking facts
How are the electric cars powered? The majority are powered by thermal plants that burn fossil fuel to provide electricity, the battery production also involves considerable environmental degradation and pollution, and the transport of logistics to and from the Giga factory also involves ships, rail and trucks that all use fossil fuels. Have you seen how rubbish your argument is?
@@user-sb3sn8di1s so it's better for the fossil powered car to pollute the air for years ? Dumbest reply I've ever seen.Your actually saying it's better to use a fossil powered car 😹. Your logic is that we should just not use EVs and do what? Walk? Or use fossil powered cars? Tell us
Batteries aren't exactly eco friendly.
They just wanna go camping ⛺️
India said, Come here bro.. but they chose Germany & China. If you feed a rich person, he will critize how it could have been better., vs if you feed a hungry one, he will be grateful and will try to give something back in return.
They are just too much free times
Demokratie ist so wichtig. Auf der einen Seite sitzen 50 Menschen im Baum. Auf der anderen Seite arbeiten 12.000 Menschen und über 250.000 Menschen kaufen jedes Jahr ein Auto von Tesla Berlin.
Did they need a new school? I heard the birth rate is in the negative growth in Germany.
Germany is a free country, you can pretend to be an environmentalist and intentionally slow down the transition to affordable and sustainable energy solutions. Tesla do not have to explain how to carry out your own emissions reduction strategy. You, environmentalists am sure are educated person to know what to do.
Why do they confirm the physical stereotypes? Exactly as one would imagine
Oxygen giving trees are more important than tesla
She said first that what they are doing is very difficult...
I'm really sorry for the future you young people are facing. My generation believed in progress. Take care, thanks for your courage.
All industry is polluting. Criticisms, even valid ones, are easy. What is a practical alternative for Germany and for the world?
11:40 to 11:55 explains it all.
That’s the TL;DR👍
Anyone noticed the Rockstar Games sticker in the yellow water level indicator? -7:02-
Amazing they couldn’t have found a brown field site to build on.
Who is paying the bills? Who is organizing the party?
What about vw diesel scam. Did someone from those people made protest ? Newspaper people should find out that
Follow the money. Check who’s paying them to be staying in those tees. Won’t be surprised at all to learn that it’s the legacy auto makers who are funding them through a third party.
Everyone already knows that VW group sponsors the enviornmentalist that have been against Tesla from the beginning. The German auto industry is like the mafia. Just look at the history of the cheating they have done on environmental issues. like diesel emissions computer scams, just to mention one.
Elon is the greatest African American.
Industrialization and jobs must help humanity. It shouldn't be cause for ending humanity by harming nature. It doesn't matter your idealogy is left or right, being selfish creates rift between human industrialization and nature.
This is not the high culture you expect to be displayed by German society
I think that’s a man made monoculture forest. 😂😂😂😂 I would feel bad if that’s a natural park.
People can control imformation,but if you can control rare earth minerals? Which Germany has been investing in,and i bet he owns a share
Eco activists against electric mobility, which should be emission free.
you did watch the video? there's also the issue of drinking water.
🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
@@bjarkih1977Putin puppet much? let's see. We can suck up tons more drinking water for coal but not clean EVs... I have to assume you work for Putin
Cutting down trees isn‘t very ecological, especially in an area that already suffers from insufficient rainfall. The fabric ‚s area is massive and the Waters cant‘t reach the soil, therefore the renainingtrees Are in danger of dying, too.
But the activists despise the factory also because Tesla producesluxzry cars, that, prinarily are an excuse for wealthy resource hungre people, who primarily care about bering admired for their car, instead of helpibg the climate. Otherwise, they would not buy a New car, but Walk, take a bike or use public teansportation. Cars Like Tesla Are nothing but an excuse to continue living like there is no climate crisis.
But it happens to not be emission free, and it happens to be overproduced beyond the capabilities of current electric grids.
Are the activists receiving money/support from Tesla's competitors?
I love how polite everyone is. Great protest. I may not agree with them. But they are going about it the right way.
They have 0 common sense, same type of people that ended nuclear power in Germany. Doing more harm than good.
So who gets to choose who’s allowed a car then? These are just anarchists.
Couldn't Tesla use a brown field site?...
Maybe there are no brown field sites as big as this. This site is enormous.
This is an industrial site - it’s a forestry monoculture, not a natural forest. The trees were planted to be cut down.
"We can't afford to keep going like this" - *proceeds to turn on gas stove and pour oat milk*
Roman the Tesla protestor wears really looking weird clothes and expects to be taken seriously?
Haven’t seen skorts on someone in years!
Is this how they expect people to live in the long run? How will you buy the food if you don’t work or have a way to work. What clothes would you wear? What would you eat off of? Everything is made from fossil fuels of some type.
No mention of where the funding comes from…
(Everyone suddenly looks at VW)
So I'm thinking about this in what I'm referring to as climate awareness stages. in this case i disagreed with Elon Musk would rank tree protestors as higher level of climate awareness.
If you we're to deep focusing on electric cars vs gas cars it would appear EV would be the more green option but now when you compare the strategy of what the tree protestor is saying it's true a universal busing system is more green then building more cars it's just reality even EV cars have to mine lithium and destroy trees plus all other parts that become landfill pollution.
I'm disagreeing with Elon Musk on this 1 as lost the debate.
But fact that it's people fighting over different ways to improve environment instead of people against climate deniers I take as progress
Roman burning gas for breakfast and being eco activist against green car 🤯 make it make sense
Aaaahahahaha natürlich is BWL-Bernd für die Fabrik
ich schmeiss mich weg😂
Remember when these Eco activists protested against all the nuclear leading to Germany needing to burn more coal 😂😂😂.
What a lunacy. He is cooking using gas, protesting against electric cars. These are confused people that need professional help, not a venue to broadcast their craziness. DW, you can (and should) do better.
These folks don't realize they work for big oil. Such a shame to see passion so misdirected.
A society as devided as can be. The howling over the depletion of economy, the lack of qualitative jobs, the lack of technological advancement is met with as a heightened and absurd need to put environmental values above the economic and thus general betterment. A schism between the german society which not only creates furious opinion exchanges, political complications, but also hinders the country to move on and decide on what the road should be. Both sides as vulptures, never daring to make a compromise, both blindly following their ideologies and lacking understanding of the other side. It never occurs to them, nor to any other western country in that sense, that a compromised strategy, containg both ideas and values, is the best way. Were it so that they tolerated one another, then they would warmly welcome Tesla and simply apply finitude(bureaucracy, regulations) so that the eco-side is represented as strong as the economical one. But no! No factory at all is better. Sleepy babies, people of no true opinion and despairing lackers of the self and its duty to relate itself to society in a good and resepcted manner. The ideology over the self, the ideology over the nation, the ideology over all. And i wonder, on their death-beds will they regret, will they recognize? This goes to each single individual.❤
I hope that the protesters are not boring any trees and driving nails.
I was all for the “we can do better than this…” for the climate narrative, up until minute 18, where the problem switches from “what policy and technology shall we develop” to “how to restrict individual’s autonomy of transport”… we ran that experiment, governments must bud out of personal matters and serve individuals (first) then society, and not society over individual…
Left wing? Call them environmentalist.
Is that dude burning propane to cook. Damn everyone loves sweet sweet propane
Are they tree elves? 😂
Left wing intelligence on full display here. They’re literally stifling the progress of the thing they care the most about. What a bunch geniuses
And cooking with gas, building tree houses with commercial timber products and using electric tools. Geniuses!
That forestry is beautiful tho
It is a monoculture plantation, the trees will be harvested to make cardboard
Maybe if Roman dressed and looked like a mentally sound person, employees might be more receptive
I’m pro Tesla here. We’ve got to build it somewhere and we can’t just destroy one area of factories in order to build another. That’d take even longer. The damage done by building factories like these is massively offset by what they produce, if they can do it. This is clearly just ‘not in my backyard’ (NIMBY) politics going on here. Same thing happens with some people against wind turbines and solar panels.
Why do we have to build more car factories?
No, Tesla is not helping environment, it is exploiting both environment and workers as well as consumers.
Yea, but we have other options thats the idea. Not just continue this weird form consumption economics.
Wind turbines fine if they are used on allready used area. But here in Norway they want to chop down our forests to make windturbines, aswell at scar nature with more roads so they can maintain those windturbines.
So friggn silly when we have the technology called nuclear, that takes 1/350th the land area for the energy it produces. Aswell as it minimizing the need for infrastructure, as we can build the generation close to the consumption.
But nah, nuclear reactors give little profit for the private sector. Cause nuclear power consume little. Mass production of wind tubines do give lots of profit for private sector, as it requires alot of resources and one can use mass production to make even more money.
Our world is rotten. Consumption fueled capitalism is rotten.
Tesla is part of the solution temporary. But not by cutting down forests. We need to plant more forests, not make less.
Like those woods i see in video. Almost never exist in Norway anymore, cause those trees use 150 years to grow. All our land is private and run by oligarchs that plant only genetic modified spruce for that strait wood that grow fast. And they wont plant pine, cause they cannot make money off trees that take 150 years to grow.
Most woods get cut down now and then. Killing all the life in the area. Im so happy for the few patches of virgin forest is have near. But its very limited, due to us being the worlds most privatly owned land. About 94% of our land is owned by various oligarchs. I can drive 2 hours west, all i see is my local oligarchs land.
In the old days, all forests around me was pine, now its mainly spruce with a few pines only in the area that borders human population. Cause those pines are owned by homeowners, and not the oligarch. If everyone owned as much land as my local oligarch, Norway would only fit 870 people.
You obviously don't have good understanding of the problem.
Tesla is exploiting environment, workers and consumers.
All good electric vehicles do is offset by the unsustainable production, unsustainable infrastructure, unsustainable economics etc.
And false sense of doing good while making things worse.
@@bandit6762 Maybe but the coal pollution Germany replaced it with actually kills hundreds of thousands of people NOW, every year, and the ash is toxic too. People just don't know that they are dying from coal pollution in the air they breath because they can be far away from any coal burning plant and still die from it.
Really strange atmosphere/vibe at the Tesla plant.. I get people being late for work but that wasn’t it. It reminded me of when reporters come to visit places in Ukraine or Romania where something illigal is going on.
I’m guessing Tesla doesn’t allow their employees to speak to the press even a country like Germany? I find that super odd and a red flag if that’s the case. Even government employees are allowed to speak to the pres in normal countries. Even the military is. Maybe the video made it look like this but if true it’s even bigger red flag than Musk and anything he’s involved in is inherently.
Very strange to me that they decided to give Tesla space to build in the forest. Germany is a big country. How they couldn't find a more deserted place.
That's a mono plantation of low quality man-planted trees destined for paper production. Its not a forest.
Germany isn’t that big compared to its population
It’s not a forest, DW is spreading misinformation. It’s crop for making cardboard. If you stop cardboard, you are going to get more plastic packaging. Also, it uses almost no water and is surrounded by things like coal mines which suck up all the water
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How about: because it is next to their plant einstein.
mein frau at 11:40 is a real one
it's important to understand we live in democracy and there are voices that we need to ignore. The amount of damage german climate activists have done to environment is insane. German actvists will rather have coal plant than a nuclear facility
Electric bad for environment.
Oil good.
Nada que está oculto que não vem a luz Deus no comando de tudo conhecimento e vida nos liberta
BYD likes it👍😜
Why do you state electric vehicles as eco friendly? They're not. This will become painfully obvious over time. Why are you jumping to the conclusions the marketing feed you? Have you actually investigated these claims and calculated the environmental cost of electric cars from construction to end of life cycle?
Yes, and the science says that EVs are far less harmful over their life of use than an ICE car. It has been proven time and time again. You need to get you head out of computer games and look it up big boss.
He will shut it down as quickly as it has been built.
Environment activist who use plastic container for their foods.. good job 👍
But they don't mind Volkswagen factories?