How to Jig Lake Trout - Advanced Techniques - Ice Fishing
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- Advanced Techniques - How to Jig Lake Trout - Ice Fishing - Techniques, Sonar, Gear, Baits, Avoiding Mistakes
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This video has detailed information on Jigging Lake Trout Through the Ice. But you need to know the basics first. If you have not seen our original How to Jig Lake Trout Through the Ice video go here first. • How to Jig Lake Trout ...
This video goes into A LOT OF DETAIL on:
- Techniques for Getting Sluggish Fish to Bite
- Avoiding Common Mistakes!
- Sonar Units and Tips on Using Them
- Gear (Rod and Reel Setups)
- Baits for different conditions and how to fish them
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SONAR:
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Other Lake Trout Videos:
How to Jig Lake Trout Through the Ice: • How to Jig Lake Trout ...
Garmin Striker Review - Part 2 (Deep Water): • Jigging Lake Trout - G...
Jigging Lake Trout - Teaching the Chase: • Jigging Lake Trout - I...
2019 Guiding Highlights: • Ice Fishing Lake Trout...
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Great video. My first time to your channel.
I have fished for lake trout for over 50 years and I can't agree more with your tips and techniques!
Lake trout through the ice are by far the most fun, entertaining, frustrating, rewarding of all the fish out there.
Keep up the good work.
LOL Perfectly said!!! Welcome to the channel!
I have watched all of your lake trout fishing videos. I am from New Hampshire and have not fished for lakers for a long time. Watching your videos has re-invigorated my interest in lake trout. I am looking forward to laker season here in NH. Thanks for the great advice.
That's awesome! Would love to know how it works out there. Good luck!
I don’t thumbs up or comment to often but I gotta tip my hat, I learned a TON from this video. Excellent tips, can’t wait to put my new sonar to work here in Maine on big lakers! Thank you!
I’ll defiantly be sending people your way when we make our lake trout videos this season 👏🏻
Nice! Thanks! It sounds like you at least have ice up in Maine.... very few waters here have safe ice.
Ya we have some pretty solid ice, the big lakes you need to be a little cautious on but the smaller stuff is locked up for the season
Thank you for the information! Quite honorable to divulge your guide secrets on Lakers. I'll be using your pointers very soon up here in Alaska and report back on their (hopeful) success. Cheers!
Sweet! Good luck in Alaska!
The last time I ice fished lake George I must of been 10 years old just jigging off the bottom for hours but after seeing your videos this is a game changer. I’m considering taking a trip this year to ice fish lake George. Keep making videos.
Sweet! I learned this technique about 5 years ago now and it has literally change my life LOL. Bring sonar, go to water 60 feet deep or deeper, keep your bait about 10 feet off the bottom and wait for something to show up. When it does, start taking it away and hold on tight! The only problem we have is getting good ice with this warm weather...
Excellent! The simplest and most accurate explanation of what you need and what you don’t need to do! Wonderful!
Thanks!
Phenomenal video man. Ive learned more in this 30 minute video than most will in a lifetime. I am a local guy and also fish lake george. I will most definitely be using these techniques and trying everything you have said. I had a question though. A lot of people that lake trout fish that i know say to use a chunk of meat on the jig for sent. So ive tried that and it seems to work. Ive caught multiple lakers with a jig similar to what you are using with a chunk of shiner on the hook. But i feel that it could also compromise the lines and looks of the jig. Thanks in advance!
I honestly haven't done it myself but I know people who have killed it doing that! I was actually thinking of trying it this year.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks for the reply man! yeah ive had luck with it sometimes and other times not. Lets pray this little cold snap coming up locks up at least some of the bays up on the queen! Good luck to you this year!
@@44CBurns If the forecast holds for the next 2 weeks I think we'll be jigging lakers!
Came across this video a little while ago and was finally able to put these techniques to use this past weekend on Lake Champlain. Just want to say thanks for the great information! It was the first time my brother and I targeted lakers and we got into them. They behaved exactly as you described and the techniques worked perfectly. It was actually very surprising how fast you need to reel to get them going. It was the most fun I've had ice fishing in a long time. Definitely my favorite species to target. Thanks again!
Wow! That's so awesome! I've been thinking of getting up to Champlain this year to try for some bigger lakers than we typically get in Lake George.
This was very helpful video thank you! I have been chasing lake trout for the past year and a half and I've struggled. Just got off Fourth Lake today but the ice was sketchy and I couldn't get deep enough for them. Anyways keep up the trout vids they're the best!
Yeah... my family has a camp up in Old Forge but I've only ice fished it a couple of times in my life and I never actually did this technique there. I don't like all of the snowmobile traffic up there though.. My brother and I fished there into the dark one time and man was that a mistake... barely got back to the car with our lives!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany they are a pain when trying to fish and it's a highway on the lake.. I gotta make do though it's the closest I can get to those deep water trout!
I'm late to these videos, but they are so informative. Keep up the good work!
That's why I make these types of videos. They stay relevant and can help people. I may have release it years ago, but the fact that people can find it and be helped by it is awesome! I hope you have a good ice season!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany you as well!
I am pumped to get out on the ice again
Love your videos! I recently started ice fishing but haven’t had the chance to go out for lake trout, your videos have taught me a lot. Can’t wait to give it a shot next winter, there’s some big lakers in Lake Superior!
Oh Man!!! I'm jealous of your lakers!!! Our are really small on average actually.
This video is getting me excited for next week, finally getting a chance to go out for some lakers on the 1st. Good luck everyone on the give away
Nice... hope you have safe ice conditions!
Thank you for your detail info it is very helpful
You are very welcome :)
Just found your videos and love them. Ice is coming and I can't wait to try some of these techniques and tackle.
Awesome! Good luck!
"Transdoofer" 😂
Just found your videos and purchased the garmin striker 4! Very informative! Cheers from Canada 🍻
LOL... Ya gotta leave that kinda stuff in the videos :) Enjoy the Garmin!
Good info, thank you
Great video as usual. I learn so much from this channel. I’d love to see more fly tying videos to help us get through the winter.
I love to hear that you're learning... it's why I love doing the channel! I have more fly tying coming (especially since ice conditions aren't good)! I'll be announcing the winner from the giveaway in the next fly tying video and doing another fly giveaway.
White Dog Outdoors I’m new to all the fly stuff and seeing a guy who fishes in my area gets me so pumped to go out and learn. It’s been such a learning curve and I’ve never been so bad at anything in my life but...I love it. I’m not gonna quit and your videos help give me motivation to keep going out.
@@riffsandwich9541 LOL... It takes time and experience and a ton of exploring! Just enjoy the journey and the surroundings fly fishing will bring you to. I rarely fish anywhere that is not pretty and inspiring! Take in every experience and learn from each outing. I highly recommend EuroNymphing if you are not already doing it! But learning to read water and understand where fish will be is really important... it comes with time and experience.
White Dog Outdoors the experiences are exactly why I keep going out. As someone who spends every free weekend in the woods anyway the fish are just a bonus. Fly fishing has taken me to awesome places and taught me patience I never thought I had. Lucky to learn from someone like you!
Excellent
Thanks
This is going to help me tremendously, I was always stopping and not making the fish pursue, or chase my jig. Can’t wait to try this, I’ve been marking tons of fish
OMG!! It will be life changing!!! I'm not kidding either. As long as the fish keeps chasing you just keep reeling. Even when the fish catches the jig DON'T STOP! I'll start to slow down a bit if I'm getting close to the ice... if you get all the way up... start going back down and make em chase down.
Great video. Thank you. By the way, 28:15: This blade bait is called Vibrato, made here in Canada. I use this bait for lake trout (and whitefish) all the time. Oh 29:44 I am sorry some lakers bit your fingers🙂
I have used the Vibrato for several years.. I really like them except for the hooks. I find the hooks break really easily and I end up replacing them. I did this video a few years ago I can't remember why my fingers were scraped up but sadly it was not a big fish that did it 😂😂😂
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany you got it. I mean the stock treble hooks on the vibrato are terrible. I always replace them right after I bought. Used to be like this for years , but now there are some sold with much better hooks.... Good luck
Very informative video! Thank you! First time laker fishing yesterday and this video helped me out ALOT!
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear it!
Thanks for this video I went out late trout fishing for the first time yesterday and this technique works awesome thank you
Yes... It... Does! Congrats! What state do you fish in?
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I live in Michigan and fished Higgins lake
This is a great video, very helpful information as I have been mainly a Pike fisherman through the ice and started going after Lake Trout over the last few years and it has been tricky to get the chase on and your info helps a lot so now I am waiting for the ice... A comment on the Garmin Striker 4, I purchased one last year and I love it. I have used it in 140ft of water and it keeps that separation of bait and fish pretty clear so I was happy to see your endorsement, Keep up the awesome tutorials!!
Thanks! I definitely hope it helps! Good luck this year! We had a bad year for ice last year... I'm hoping for the opposite this year!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I agree last year was tough, I live in CT and most places did not freeze over last year, we also have no water that supports any Lake trout population. So most every weekend last year I drove to central Maine and targeted various species bit even there the ice got about half as thick as in most other years. Right about now I start getting excited and prepped for the season so I am hoping for the cold to come early. I did a lot of Pike fishing last year and did very well, I do post my own videos but I am Not advertising because they are boring lol.
I really enjoy watching your videos. My 14 year old son is hooked! We take a trip each year to Lake George.
Awesome! Love to hear that!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany hoping to get down there this weekend. Usually go out of Hulletts Bay. Not sure how much ice is out there. Have not been down yet this year.
@@keithburdo5596 Huletts will be safe. Cold weather moving in at end of week.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks much appreciated! I travel from Plattsburgh so 1 1/2 hour trip. Thanks again and tight Lines 🎣
Love my garmin striker 4. Got it this year for ice fishing, a-scope was great. Looking forward to taking it to the boundary waters this spring.
Yeah... they're great for both ice fishing and in a small boat! I have a video of how I set it up in my solo canoe that you might like... th-cam.com/video/uzn2ASWRX5M/w-d-xo.html
I really enjoy your videos. Very novice Lake Trout fisherman.
The hat is a great give away item.
Thanks! Hopefully you're able to land a few more fish!
Caught my PB laker Sunday 29” what a ride!
NICE!!! :) Those are fun!
Amazingly informative video! Lake trout are on my bucket list, this video is getting saved into a playlist so I can revisit when I ice fish in Laker Country!
That's great!... that's why I made it!
Awesome information I can’t wait to try out these techniques that you illustrated. I’m very new and very green to lake trout fishing but I am very eager to learn here in northern Maine. Thank you very much for sharing all of your videos.
Absolutely! Good luck! We had a great day yesterday and landed 15 in half a day.
That sounds like an awesome day on the ice to me. Is that pretty much the normal day of hook ups using the techniques and baits that you use for lake trout?
@@lawrenceking9457 Every day and every lake is different. We have a high number of lake trout but they don't really get bigger than 28-29" very often. Lots of 23-25" fish. I would consider it a great day but we've had better. On my lake I expect at least 5 fish per day. I've only been skunked twice in 6 years of doing this on my lake. On other lakes it can be completely different. Just gotta get out there and try it out! You may have to pay some dues before you are rewarded but the fish will come! :)
Thank you very much I’m definitely gonna start putting time in on them as soon as all my gear I just ordered comes in lol
The most exciting way to catch a fish under the ice ,and ya great video again
I definitely have to agree with you :)
Really like the information. I'm going to try and jig them up this weekend!
Awesome! Good luck!
Great tips. Using a lot with great success
Good! Love to hear that!
Good stuff, very helpful and even confirmed things I was doing even today! Thank you!
Cool! Good luck this season!
Love the deep water jigging lakers videos! Keep them coming!!
Thanks! I need some good ice!
good info keep up the laker stuff
Will do! I have a great trip with my kids that I'm editing now. 15 Lakers in a half day! :)
Great video. I like the hat. Keep the lake trout videos coming. They are very informative. The sonar shots on the video are really helpful.
Thanks... Glad to hear they're helpful!
Merch is sick man. I have been fishing Lake George since a kid and learning your tactics a few years ago have really helped
That's awesome! Thanks for the feedback on the hat and glad that the videos have helped you!
Great video. Very informative with a lot of helpful information. I can't wait to try the tip out that you gave in the video.
Glad it was helpful! Good luck this season!
awesome video. your other videos have helped me out a lot. i love watching lake trout chase after the bait and hit it
That's awesome!! I love to hear that! Good luck this season!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany good luck to you. tight lines
Spend the money on an ice ducer. I run the gt8HW on my striker plus 4 cv. I’ll put that unit up against most anything out there. Super easy to use, and the chirp technology as awesome. Not as good as my echomap 73 ice combo, but pretty impressive for the money!
I spent my money on the Helix 7 instead! 😜 Love that device!!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany But no live scope or panoptix on a helix 7. I think the helix 7 has better maps with lake master chip than the navionics on the Garmin. Both great units. It was a tough choice for me.
Thanks for video. I am targeting lake trout in CT. Approx 30’ deep lakes. Only 3 stocked in CT.
30 feet is a little shallow for a good chase but see how it works out. Sometimes they crush it fast. Good luck!
Just found your channel excellent video learned a lot
Welcome aboard! :)
thank you for the great info loving it
I’d like to see you get more trout n salmon thru the ice and what bait you use
Meee Toooo! I started thinking a lot about other trout through the ice last season but I didn't get to go for them. I really want to do it though!!! I'll see if I can work in a trip for it this year. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks love the content keep it up love what you do
Do a lot of togue fishing and agree with what you say. Have to admit I’m one of those that slowed the bait down on chasing togue. Going out this weekend and will see what happens with a constant rapid retrieve. Great video and helpful to lake trout fishermen. Thank you. Also have been using the Vexilar FL-18 for years. I do have a Hummingbird Helix 7” G3 but am so darn used to my Vexilar.
Tying a 3x5 turks head knot behind the seat foot rear or forward making sure the other foot can not move. If you have a favorite best friend rod you must have to fish with or if you are like me I try not to be the fish landed in tackel shops, I own 35 + rods and that is small potatos in blue ribbon fishing country.. as a kid I had an old broken spinning rod and a broom handle for a pan fish rod. If you have funds lots of fun to go thru the fishing section of a store with a large cart and no conscious.
I could use a hat like that.... I'm a little late to this 2019 video, but what the hell. I just got back from our annual ice fishing trip. I use a 34" rod and run 10lb ice line with a 10lb floor leader. My rod is a heavy, but I can still feel anything that goes for the bait. Usually use tubes and William's wabbler jigging spoons, but caught my Lakers on a lipless crankbaits this year.
Thanks for the video. Looking at getting my own sonar finder for next year
I need to get more hats made up. Thinking about selling them but then there are a lot of hoops to go through with sales tax and such... Glad you found the video. We have tons of lake trout jigging videos!
I'd like to see videos on how you break down a lake and pick your spots. Reading a map can be confusing.
That's a good one! I've had that request a few times recently! Thanks for the suggestion!
Our next video has a bit of that... coming in the next week or so.
What is the best depths for Lakers on lake george?
Great video. Thank you for the all the info. I have one question. I'm just starting out ice fishing and I usually prefer a bait casting reel to a spinning reel in summertime fishing. Is there any reason not to use a bait casting style reel in this application or is it just a matter of personal preference of the reel style?
I know several people who use the bait casting reel. I suppose it is personal preference. The reason I like the spinning reels is I feel I get better smoother drag on the spinning reels whereas I feel that baitcasters tend to be a little more jerky when releasing line. If you have good smooth baitcasters then good! The other reason is I want to be able to drop that bait and deep it touch with it as it drops. I like my spinning reel for that and I control the line with my finger. I suppose that can be done pretty well on a baitcaster as well by lightly thumbing the spool and keeping the brakes set really light.
Awesome tips!! Thank you sooo much! 🙏
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
What do you recommend when the fish won't chase for more than 10 feet? We tried going faster, going slower, and they didn't seem to be interested in chasing longer than 10 feet. We had success on one fish by jigging it in its face but marked close to 40 fish throughout the day and that was the only hookup. We were 90 feet deep and watched all these fish come up from the bottom and check the bait. Tried spoons, swim baits, jig raps, tubes, etc.
Some days they are just in that kinda mood. When they won't chase, especially if you are marking that many, I'll crash bottom with the bait. Bounce it up and down a few times. Sometimes they'll pick it up off the bottom. After a few bounces, start reeling it again and that can trigger a bite. We've had days where that was the only thing that would work.
Great Video Thanks,
Big fan being local love the carhart collab and will definitely be out on lake George this winter for lakers thanks for the tips
LOL... no colab on the Carhart... I had to buy them and have them made :) Thanks for watching!
Excellent explanation ! Many thanks .
I hope it helps you this season!!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany One more question if you don't mind . 5 " whole is good enough for ice fishing ? Many thanks in advance
@@jbehzad It depends on the size of the fish you're chasing. I had a pike I couldn't get through a 5" hole once and ended up losing it. I use an 8" auger.. some people use a 6". I used to have a 10" power auger but that was way overkill. The bigger the hole the easier it is to get the fish's head into the hole as well. I like an 8" hole for lakers because they'll do a lot of head thrashing at the hole.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I am looking for a hand turned auger .I really have no idea . How easy is to use 8" to go through ice .Thank you
Great video keep up the great work love watching the Lakers come to the ice
LOL... Meeee Toooo!
Thanks!
You're welcome.
Had a feeling it would be LG. I always loved LG! And sometimes I fished too lol. Great video! And I'd love a hat too!
How about winter fishing for trout. Streams like the Kaydeross, Batten Kill. I loved hitting the Kaydeross after land trapping season closed and before I started on spring beaver. I used a live minnow (not a fly lol) and would really get some big browns!
That's awesome that you found good fish on the Kay! I have been thinking about some winter stream fishing.. actually almost went but the warm weather and rain is blowing things out right now... But if the warm weather continues ice fishing may be out and streams may be in!
Good info!! Im targeting Lakers for the first time this season. I wouldn't have thought to make them travel that far!!! Id be the guy to stop and try to finesse them.
LOL.. Don't stop.. keep going! :) Judge it by their reactions but if they're on it or charging hard keep it going! Good luck! Hope we get ice....
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Thanks for the info. We have 8-10" here in Maine. Want to try for lakers next weekend.
@@precisionanglingYT Lucky you. I'm looking at a lot of open water here...
Great information as usual.
Thanks Jason!
Looks cool have to try Saturday my friend Doug M. Told me about your videos very interesting 👍
Good luck! We crushed em yesterday and got our kids their first lakers!
Outstanding video! I have the Garmin 5cv on order and can't wait to try it on Lakers. Have ice fished for years, but never for Lakers...thanks for all the tips. Would love to see a video on Big Tupper Lake if you haven't done one yet.
Thanks! I don't get up that way hardly ever in the winter unfortunately. Although ice conditions this year are likely going to push me more into the ADKs. Been on the ice once and it was a pond....
Nice show and information, I fish flaming gorge res in Wyoming were the Lakers can get to around 60 pounds. would it be better to fish a 6 inch or bigger, dead bait fish or a 6 inch tube jig?
If you can use multiple lines do both. We can set tipups here so a lot of people will drop big dead bait on the bottom and jig at the same time. I haven't set tipups in a long time because we get so many more fish on the jig rod. But my guess is since your fish are so much bigger there are probably fewer of them? In that case I would probably do both to maximize my chances. Each lake will be unique. Tipups with dead bait tend to get bigger fish in my lake but we get way more fish by jigging.
Great info !
Glad it was helpful!
I live in North Eastern Vermont. We catch a lot of Lakers. The lake we fish is mostly lake trout, a few brookies but that's it for game fish. There is a ton of bait fish, crawfish etc for feed. We catch alot of fish in the 16"-22" range. I've tried deep water, in close to shore along drop offs, rock piles, etc. Again we have great success both jigging and on tip ups. Typically we use live smelt on our tip ups. Suckers sometimes if we can't jig up our own smelt to use. The point of this long rant is: the biggest Laker we've caught in nearly 30 years was just shy of 7lbs. Decent, but nowhere near as big as they can get in this lake. What can I do to try and Target those bigger fish 10+pounders. We know they're in there. Every few years someone will land a monster in the 15-20lb range. Usually in the early summer w down riggers etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. My uncles and I are stumped. And they've fished here for nearly 60 years.
New subscriber here. Thanks in advance.
And as a side note; there is very little fishing pressure. There is a trophy lake not far that gets all the attention. (Lucky for us).
Sounds like you have a good thing going! Some lakes just have a smaller average size fish with the occasional monster. I primarily fish Lake George and the average laker is 24-26" but we get them up to 30" every once in a while. I'm working with another guide to help fill trips and we were talking this weekend. He swears he catches most of his bigger fish in shallower water believe it or not (looking for bigger bait). One of our guys this weekend caught one that was close to 30". We were fishing in 73 feet of water and a mark showed up at about 30' deep... He reeled up and got a chase and got a really nice one. I honestly usually fish deeper water but I want to make sure my clients catch a good number of fish and I don't really "target" monster fish. Maybe try setting tipups in shallower water with bigger bait and then jig deeper water nearby and look for a flag...
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany thanks for the input. We have a big group of us going out this weekend. I'll be sure to try this out.
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Pete Hornbeck just passed away the day after Christmas. :( Do you know Josh? Josh treated us very well through out the process! Their whole team was great!
I heard very sad I know Josh very well
@@lucasteneyck8577 We actually just hung our poster that Pete did for us back in 2019 when we bought our boats. We had it framed and just hung it tonight. He has helped us create a lot of great memories and experiences in the Adirondacks!
Great vid. I would like to see more on the water tips and techniques for jigging lakers. But all the vids u post are great.
Thanks. I have a ton of video from the last several years. I'll be doing more as soon as we get good ice.
Which ice transducer do you use with the Striker 4? Thanks for all the info…long time ice fisherman here, but never fished for lakers.
I honestly just use the transducer that comes with the kit that can suction cup to a boat as well. It is not made specifically for ice but they make it so you can use it for ice very easily and it works really well.
great tips! hoping for some more cold weather in upstate ny!
Yeah... me too.. Not looking good for now though :(
I’d love the hat! Maybe some videos on how to find new spots?
Ahhh... the never ending quest for new spots! I hear ya!
Are you still using 30-32” rods or have you gone bigger in the 3 years since you released this video?
If my shanty were bigger, I would definitely use longer rods! 😂 I'm honestly limited to the 32" rod length because a longer rod doesn't work in my shanty.
Great video these videos are helping me dramatically. I am struggling tho still new to fishing lake trout. I am using garmin live scope and see everything that is happening below the ice. I am wondering if I am trying to perfect my technique too much and should use the standard sonar flasher?
If you can see your bait and understand where it is in relation to the fish then you're probably ok. Most people use a standard flasher or graph but use what works for you. Good luck!
Awesome video I definitely subscribe to your link some good knowledge that you provided and I'm going to put it to good use have some fun thank you very much
Thank you! I hope it is helpful!
What’s the hook size on the 3/8 Northland jig?
I am using your technique in summer on open waters and it works. However, I can be out on the water and have like 6 fish go vertical in a morning and chase me up like 50 feet but then swim back down after meeting my line - I am reeling VERY fast like it's going vertical. Is this usually because they lose interest, or they missed? I'm using a 1oz jighead with a 4-5 inch swimbait, #20 braid with four feet of 20 lb a flourocarbon leader. I will not feel anything on the line.. do you usually feel it if they bite the tail? I do hook up fish, but the amount of fish that go vertical to the successful hookups are like 1 in 10... any ideas?
To be honest I don't have experience for this in summer... the idea is the same but the conditions are pretty different. Chasing and not committing is part of the game when you're doing this technique but 1 in 10 does seem pretty low for fish that actually bite. I have a few thoughts but they are purely guessing at this point...Maybe they're hitting the thermocline and don't want to venture above it into the warmer water? Lake trout are definitely cold water fish. Maybe they don't like the lure for whatever reason... doesn't look real enough or doesn't look like the baitfish? Or maybe with 20# Fluoro I suppose it is possible they see the line? I use 10# but if your fish are bigger than ours then it might make sense.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Thank you for the reply. I switched to 8# flouro and went to a 3/4 oz jig and I ended up catching the last 5 out of 6 vertical chasers. I also extended the leader length to 15 feet instead of the 3 I had on. Your videos are awesome dude, thank you so much! Our fish are average 11 lbs, but I've caught some in the high teens. The smallest fish I've ever pulled out of here is 6 lbs. Obviously with 8# I need to be very careful and setting that drag down after hookup or I'll lose the big guys, but this seems to be working now.
@@ryanjones2576 That's awesome!!! I actually missed the part where you said how short your leader was. I bet that made a difference going to a long leader. I use a leader of about 12 feet or so but we have super clear water where we fish. I definitely think you made the right call to go more realistic with everything. If i get refused in any kind of fishing I try to go smaller and get more realistic to what the fish are chasing! So glad you had a high percentage of hookups last outing!!!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany When I watched your video again, I picked up on the part where you said your leader is like 12 feet or so, so that's why I made my leader longer. Great information, great videos.. thanks!
Great informative video! I went out today chasing lakers for the first time on the ice at Green Lake in WI. Saw some fish, had mild interest, but couldn’t get any of them to commit. Looking forward to getting out again and trying some of your suggestions.
Were you already trying to get them to chase your bait or is the whole technique new for you? I find more often than not if I don't make them chase (and fast) they don't give it too much interest at all... but as soon as you make em chase fast they charge after it. Sometimes they're just not in the mood but when they are, man is it fun!
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I’m typically a walleye guy, so my chase was probably waayyy too slow for those lakers! Also going to try some jigs and plastics as well - just had an assortment of lipless cranks and jigging spoons today. Do you ever use a deadstick/minnow in addition to your jigging rod?
You'll learn a lot about each laker and its mood by the way it chases. I always start by taking it away fast. The fast chase really triggers something in them if they're in the mood. I've had the chase from 100 feet down and bite right under the hole (very common actually). If they chase hard just keep going. You'll see some that give up half way through the chase (also very common). But keep playing with them up and down. If they' just won't close the distance to the bait then it's time to change things up and play around with them. Go back down to them and try getting them to engage again. If they're on the sonar I'm trying different things to get them to bite.
I use jaw jackers around me sometimes as a dead stick with live bait. I usually set them shallower to try to find either Atlantic Salmon or lakers cruising at different depths. I get way less fish on those than jigging though. I'll get 95% of my fish while jigging.
Also, I love plastics but spoons and lipless cranks work too.
@@WhiteDogTrailCompany really appreciate all the information- will keep ya posted!
@@nathannorthup7965 Awesome! Hope you crush em! It is so fun!
Thanks for the help can't wait for the lake to freeze up
Yeah... you and me both! Some of the smaller waters around me are good but most are not... and nothing that holds lakers is ok yet... and we have a warm forecast :-\
I go out from hulets last year was my first year jigging for lake trout no luck been doing research and I think I got it for this year
@@buckshotfishing1356 Hopefully we get some cold weather soon!!!
I will show ya how to get some pike on Champlain if you want in a week or two
They have walleyes too haven't jiged for them yet wouldn't mind trying to get them as well
I have never caught a trout through the ice that would be awesome.Thank you for the techniques.Could you show some tipup setups.Thanks
Ya know... I don't really set tip ups for trout... in fact I haven't set a tip up in several years if you can believe it. I know people do it but they are generally not as successful as when they are jigging. For lakers it is mostly a deeper water thing but I believe other trout come in shallow (although I haven't fished this way). I have been hoping to target other trout through the ice but haven't done it yet. In general if you were to set tip ups for lakers, go to deep water and put a minnow or sucker on a single hook using fairly light line as your leader. Set a few near the bottom, a few about 10 feet off the bottom and even some dead bait right on the bottom. If you are targeting altantic salmon then put them right under the ice to about 10 or 15 feet under the ice.
Have you ever caught a Atlantic Salmon jigging and have them chase the lure like Lake Trout
@@jeffcummings5688 I have not. We usually set tip ups or jaw jackers with medium shiners for salmon while we jig for lake trout. We set then right under the ice or a 10-15 feet down. I've been with people when we've caught atlantic salmon that way but I've never pulled one through the ice myself. I've had them strip my minnows on me though!
Good stuff. Hoping to get some lakers soon.
Me too! Ice conditions suck here! Thought we were going to be able to get out but it didn't quite happen :(
White Dog Outdoors same
Just the video I needed ! what
Dude... I have a ton of lake trout jigging videos... Check out "How to Find Lake Trout"... and all of my other trip videos of lakers. This is an incredibly fun way to fish!!! And when you do a video of you jigging them just be sure to give me the shout out 😜
Are you using a swivel at all? How are you fusing your braid to flourocarbon leader connection? I highly recomend improved fg knot. Thanks for the videos! Tight lines : )
No... I never use a swivel for this for a few reasons. I don't want a second return on my sonar and a swivel will show up. Also I use a long leader (around 10 ft) and I don't want to reel a swivel up into the rod/reel. Plus I don't want anything unnatural. I will not use a swivel on the line or on the lure. I use a double uni knot for the braid to fluoro for all of my rigs and really love it.
Does the Northland jig you use contain lead?
They are lead. I have thought about using tungsten but haven't ever tried it.
Great Video! I have fished with Bryan using the techniques he describes here. All very accurate and provides all the details to let anyone who is serious about learning to use the chase technique for Lakers to have a great day on the ice. I would love to see more videos about how to choose water depths based on the lakes that have a great variety of depths.
Thanks Brian... Had a great time with you and Mike! Great 2 days of fishing!
I'd love to see you hook up with a 34" plus in NH Newfound lake. It's 180+ ft
LOL SO WOULD I!!!!!
Very informative. Thanks! There are a few places I will try this year in CT. The depth on the majority of lakes/ponds that have lake trout are about a third as deep as where you are. If you are still selling hats let me know as I am interested. Love your logo.
BR
I do have a few hats left. I need to order more! Send me a direct message on Facebook or Instagram (@WhiteDogTrail) if you are interested. That logo was actually created when I was a little tyke believe it or not. I joined the business that my Step-Father and his two buddies started back in 1981!
does this advice only apply to lake trout or is this good general advice for most fish?
It really is specific to lake trout as they're deep water\cold water fish. Each fish species has its preferences for depth, temperature and food and will react differently in situations.
Awesome video! Question, do you use swivel hooks? I like to change my presentation quite often. I use swivel hooks to help me make a quick change. If you use them, what brand and size, please. Thanks for providing the links!!! Love it . Thanks! sub'd
I don't use swivel hooks. I tie everything directly. I usually have a few rods ready to go with different setups though! I'll literally just grab another rod to make a change.
Awesome and very informative video.. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge
What time would you target in February and March, for the most consistent bite ???
Thanks for the PHENOM Video 🐟🎣💫
For my water, I find the most consistent laker fishing is in the morning. It doesn't always hold true but more often than not it does. I start at first light if possible and fish to 12 or 1. You usually notice the action dies off by noon with only an occasional fish showing up after that. Once in a while it is the opposite... but not as often. Also I find the better fishing to be in February in my lake.. by the time we hit mid March it dies off in our normal deep water places. I think the fish follow bait toward creeks at that point.
Thanks So much Brian !! I can’t explain how this helps a Newbie ICEFISHING Individual !! Just watched Your Caddis Nymph tie ...... Will be at the vise soon ..... will try Your Pattern !!
Thanks So Much,
Brian at the 45th in NW MI 🧊🕳🎣
@@brianfeeney9493 Awesome! Good luck!
Great Videos ..... THANK YOU !!!!!
What knot do You use, to Join the Braid to the Fluoro please ??? Send more Videos for 2021 Please 🎣
I use a double uni knot for my Braid to Fluoro knots. More videos will be coming. First lake trout video of the year launched last night. I should be getting out Sunday again and bringing the family.
Thanks SO MUCH ....... You’ve helped to launch My Lake Trout Fishing 🎣 Career !!!! Hope this system works in Northern Michigan 🎣
@@brianfeeney9493 I get feedback that it works all over the US and Canada. It just the typical nature of lake trout. It helps if your water is clear so they can see your bait from a ways away.
Hey white dog, cool video! I was wondering if you’ve gotten the chance to fish the Trenton falls section of the west Canada creek this winter? I’ve been meaning to go but the flows have just been so high and the rain and snow melt we’re getting right now definitely isn’t helping. But anyways, I’d love to see another video from there! Thanks
I haven't. I usually stop by there if I'm on my way to or back from somewhere else. I don't think I've ever fished there in the winter actually. I fish a few places closer to me in the winter (if I get a nice day and have time)... but it is rare.
Bryan, huge fan of your videos! what pound braid do you use? I’ve been using fluroclear for past few years. But also had some issues with stretch last year, on hook setting in deep water. thinking of making the switch this year to braid also. Thanks!
Thanks! Definitely recommend the braided line if its not below freezing or you're in a heated shelter. I think I use 20# power pro? I use a double unit knot to tie to the Fluorocarbon leader. Good luck... looks like some cold weather coming finally! Hope to be out there before too long!
Double uni knot is the way to go! Hoping for cold weather, otherwise I’ll be going to Canada soon! Heard Schroon might have decent ice. I’ll be making a trip soon. Just need George to freeze!! Need my laker fix. Thanks again, Tight lines!
@@peterbradway9404 I heard south end of Scroon was ok before the warm weather this weekend. Not sure about now.
Who makes the paddle tail bait you showed?
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Hey man don’t be knocking the slip rings you need to put a zip tie and or electrical tape over those brother… don’t just trust the plastic rings to hold the reel. If you tape em tho they will be bulletproof… I have caught over 300 steelhead in the last year on my centerpin float rod with slip rings some of the fish were nearing 20lbs anyway I’m not bashing just give them a chance lol tape em tho… i garauntee a fifteen pound fall chrome steelhead will smoke a lethargic winter laker even if it’s 40 inch lol different rods mines 13 foot long
I know people do it but I switch my reels season to season and never wanted to bother with it. I imagine zip ties leave a sharp pointy end and tape leaves residue.. is that your experience? I never wanted to do that and just got rods where they can be easily removed. I've also seen lots of centerpin anglers doing it.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing and giving us the opportunity for the sweet hat! I did buy the garmin fishing kit without the ice ducer. Also bought a bondy bait mini wobbler in pearl. Check em out 😀 Made for monster musky, pike and lake trout. Made from my hometown in Windsor Onrario, Canada. Sold at Bass pro and Cabelas ;-) Cant wait to try mine!
Sweet! Good luck! I'll check em out.
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Is this in new york?
Yes, I ice fish pretty much only in NY. I think all of the filming was done on Lake George. It is a great laker fishery.
White Dog Outdoors Do you know if Lake Bonaparte is good?
@@gavinadamski3913 I don't... I've never fished it. Go to IceShanty.com and see if anyone has been talking about it. It is a great resource and you can ask questions about it.
What is your favorite fish to catch?
Tough one. Probably steelhead on a fly rod! All hell breaks loose when you hook one!
What if you are fishing Lakers in 15 feet of water lol
Yeah... it doesn't work in shallow water lol. No room to chase. I would certainly use other jigging techniques that don't chase fast.
Why do you have your hook through the eye of your rod? Not a smart thing to do.
I don't. It is on the support of the eye not in the eye itself.
30 minutes of mouth.. 2 minutes of fish..
LOL... This video is not a trip video... it is a "how to" with clips to illustrate. It is meant to help people learn. I have lots of other videos full of actual fish.
Thanks for your tips, awesome..
Thanks for watching. Hope it helps!
Never ice fishing for lake trout before and I love to ice fishing for lake trout in the future.
Good info!
Thanks... hopefully it helps people!