But don't you like having a megacorop like disney insinuate that all native american tribes can be "represented" by one tribe with it's magical girlbosses that didn't need no men ever?
@@torikazuki8701 Maybe he has contractual obligations and signed up for X number of projects no matter what. A lot of big superhero content actors are on contracts like that from what I've heard.
@@torikazuki8701 Same reason you see decent actos in life time movies. Hes got bills to pay just like everyone else truth is theres verey ittle work in hollowood and most of its snapped up in nepotisim. Hollywood is a much smaller circle than most realize if your not related to someone and most of them are its extremely hard to get anywhere.
We all can tell the difference between Disneymarvel and Marvel Studios. because kevin feige knows how to make good movie’s. I mean endgame and infinity war was a sight to behold the first adventure’s still looks really good even the original iron man is one of the best movies in marvels catalog (in my opinion)
That's probably the point.. don't assume "they're just poorly informed or uneducated." (The insidious nature of those creating these prop pieces suggests it's entirely by design.. essentially they want their cake and to eat it too.. claiming a virtue signal yet doing the exact opposite.. you'll notice the pattern, ridicule the masses.. all of which they despise and profit.)
@@justforever96That's hot garbage. Nobody who is Indian or Indian associated would tell you 1% is woke. It's a reservation section 8 life. It's pure victim pathology. Btw there's absolutely no reason to call them 'native'. Historically you'd never have the evidence for such a claim. Some of them were just here before some other people. You have no way of knowing who was here before that. In fact some of the Northern legends claim they took the land as spoils from pale hair giants.
Are you talking about Wakanda ?😅 naked savages received a meteor from sky and magically became more technologically advanced than the entire planet a magical dark-elves indeed
@@BubbyandBgirl Then why tf is it about REPRESENTATION of the native people if it's supposed to be just goofy ass magical elves fiction. Disney marvel doesn't know shit about their characters and their woke audience doesn't know wtf they're watching either.
Echo was designed to literally be the yin to Daredevil's yang. A deaf woman who's heightened sense of sight gives her enhanced powers vs a blind man who's heightened sense of hearing gives him enhanced powers. How were the writers so dumb as to not understand that?
@@Wolffman109 lol, right? I think I'm just particularly perplexed about Echo bc she's already a deaf Native American woman. Disney, you've got all your woke representation points you need right there without having to change anything about the character. Her story within the Daredevil comics is really good. There was no need to throw it all in the trash and especially no need to give her a prosthetic leg???
I am fluent in ASL and worked with deaf people for a number of years. True Deaf culture is one of the most toxic, victim enabling cultures I have ever seen. It fits perfectly with Disney's identity politics. This is a truly pathetic and sad show.
I had this same experience when I studied ASL in college sadly, I didn't stick around to really find out if the whole community was that way. College was enough
could you elaborate? i've never heard that about the toxicity of the culture and i'd love to know more - not trying to challenge your claim, just legitimately curious
@@christianmindgamesThey are insular, elitist, and are almost always insistent that their disability (if inherited) should be passed on to their children in order to perpetuate their "culture". OP nailed it. 🤷♂️
That explains the heffer that came up to my car at motel 6 a few weeks back and started barking at me and flashing gang signs while I was smoking a cigarette...
Yeah... Character does something - why asked wiever - yes hollywood said. Character receives an item - from where viewer asked - yes hollywood said Time erratically skips back and forth - what happened viewer asked - yes said hollywood It's lazy. it's rude. And he's wrong. It doesn't check anything.
Who wants to end representation? Maybe if we end that people will focus a bit more on what is actually important: writing stories with muscular male action heroes that are a role model for men and eye candy for women.
I need hearing aids, no one looks down on me if I can't hear them well, just like no one looks down on deaf people. It's one of the fakest grifts these people do. It could be interesting to have a deaf character but you can't build an entire show around it!
For all these writers bleat on about ‘inclusivity and representation’ they sure do know how to segregate the very people they wish to put on their pedestal from the rest of society.
because divide and conquer is what this whole thing is about in the first place, but after the divide happened, they realized the percentages are nowhere near even, so they had to pay for the social media bot armies to create loud minorities to drive their politics further, and when they got this far, the real world percentages started to show in their box office numbers, and now they have no other tools any more to drive their agenda forwards
That's because it's never about "rEpReSeNtAtIoN," it's about splitting people up into tribalistic groups that those inside can use the arbitrary characteristics of to worship themselves for having ("i SEeEeEE mYsElf oN sCrEnE!!1!"), then they can use to pit against each other to push for more institutional power. They don't care about 'rEpReSeNtAtIoN," they only see groups to capture and then indoctrinate to act as meat shields, trojan horses, and sleeper cells to spread their collectivist ideology like a cancer. If you really want to see how much they care about "rEpReSeNtAtIoN," introduce them to Eric July.
I have several Native friends and I explained the show and Echo's power to them and they were embarrassed and insulted. So yeah, Marvel fucked this one up majorly.
Remember old school characters like Turok? Native American, shot guns and arrows like a bad ass, outright killed raptors with his bare hands. Or even Red Harlow from Red Dead Revolver? You can make Native characters and have them be interesting, Marvel. It's not that hard...
its a privileged compared to deaf people yes. But i feel not even deaf people would agree with that statement. People who had the courage to adapt to a disability wouldn't waste time to think about sh1t like that cause they are better than this. Coincidentally all "something privilege" phrases statistically at least come from the blue haired, septum wearers. While most deaf people in this case, mind their business most of the time
Picture this: Netflix's Daredevil being a monumental success without 1) Charlie Cox not actually being blind and, 2) having blind representation being impossible since blind people can't see themselves in Daredevil
You know what’s crazy, I used to not miss a single minute of MCU content and now I come to your videos to see whether it’s worth watching or not. Thanks for helping me not waste any time on this one. My man 💯
none of this shit is worth it anymore. I just watch Disparu reviews which I like the style of a lot as he uses the videos so can see whats actually happening, and then all Garys videos to see him destroy Disney and M-SHE-U while barely having to try.
My guess is that contracts of some of the actors force them have to appear in sequels or spin offs so that they can not negotiate their pay with the studio. D'Onofrio (Hawkeye, Echo), Cox (She-Hulk, Echo), Harrison Ford (Sequels, Indiana Jones: DoD), ...
They are that way because skills like photographic memory or experience in fighting or weapons are too boring for a character they likely want to have being in the big leagues fighting Galactus and stuff, so time to give her big, showy powers that reserve the right to be vague when they need to for the sake of the story.
They think we'd just be bored if she was a well-trained fighter who kicks ass, like in the comics. DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT MADE DAREDEVIL WORK?? WHY WE LOVE IT? Because, dammit. Not everyone NEEDS powers. Especially not dumbass ones.
Now he is a stereotype of a Native American character who has powers thanks to the spirits of his ancestors or nature, really r4cist gringos think that all Native Americans are shamans or healers
- Pick something that is loved and nurtured by an audience made of 99% male, turn it into a feminist pamphlet and hope that it will bring female audience. - Fail - Rince and repeat
As a woman when I watch a superhero movie/series I want to see half naked ripped men doing heroic stuff being competent and strong, I want to see beautiful women in tight costumes being feminine and smart and I want to see relationships between them. You know ... like... what it used to be 🤷♀️
That's the natural order, when 14 year old boys trash the 5th ranking Australian women football team and a 16 year old boy can literally physically best 99.9 percnt of women on earth and knowing all that we sit there watching a 5'4 120 lbs female besting 200 lbs men with ease man o man the cringe it generates is unfathomable
Now I did not watch this but from what I understand Echo has the powers of her ancestors. Does that mean none of her ancestors had the power of hearing?
She can't though. Or you mean the original character before they changed it? She can copy a superpower, not just anything they can do. If that was the case then she would have the complete talents of every single person she ever got near, every language they write or speak, every musical talent, their speech giving talent, juggling, archery, flying, pole vaulting, etc. And that's assuming she has to be near them to do so, otherwise it's just every ability that exists anywhere in the world. So it has to be a superpower specifically, and someone else explained that her skill was actually a perfect "photographic muscle memory" so she was able to copy any move she saw someone make. Don't know, I never watched or read any of this.
Funny how these showrunners still haven't learned that disparaging the creators and source material that your series is based on isn't good for business
@@Earlierfour they're wasting his talent is what I've meant. Dude is great at what he does. They could have given him his own show, went full Godfather 2 with it, then after a season or two, when he's at the height of his power, they bring in Daredevil, make it dark as hell. But no they have him doing glorified cameos in subpar shows
@@TanThighsYum man, i said they should have done something like that. Like imagine a whole show about Kingpin building his empire. Starting as a grunt in some gang then slowly taking over the city, with flashbacks to his fukd up childhood here an there. Tell me you wouldn't watch the fck outta that. Dude was easily the best part of the netflix daredevil show. And he's clearly taken inspiration from Pacino and Brando for his performance. At least it seemed like that to me.
If she has healing powers, why can't she heal her hearing? Probably already thinking about this with more effort than anyone involved in the production.
Exactly. But in their world, be deaf, fat, black, and behaving gay is normal and empowering. Does not need healing. Next in California communist Newsom will demand 30% of all board members be deaf. And require all employees to learn sign language.
@@MrGecroslol idk......i mean Jesus healed the blind man, he didn't just walk by and say "hey you're perfect just the way you are, and i'm sure you wouldn't want me to heal your blindness anyways huh?"....ill just be on my way instead
@@MrGecros Uh...yes it is, LOL. People have EARS for a reason, numb nuts! People who have ears YET CAN'T HEAR AT ALL are human defects! They're not normal! If they could be healed of deafness, they would do it!
That is not how windshields break. Having her leg crushed would make far more sense. I'm glad you pointed that out. Disney writers should be the first to be replaced by AI. 😂
This makes me a person who suffers from male pattern baldness, want to go into the hair and beauty industry. We need more representation, more inclusiveness in the marketplace that descriminates and promotes the full of head of hair privilege.
I've said it a few other places. Disney has a magic barrel and when they scrape the bottom of the barrel, it produces coffin nails. It's the only way to explain the number of nails they are putting in Marvels coffin.
I’m kinda enjoying the downfall.. It’s just funny that people in powerful positions green lighted millions in resources for this. Objectively stupid and it’s funny to watch these ass clowns lose money 🤣
"Fell on *deaf ears*" "Despite their *reservations*" "Went ahead with their big *gamble*" "Not sure if you *heard*" The entire fandom is pushing these puns and it is absolutely glorious... ROFL!!!!
i just hate how these female shows try n steal the hype n audience of the male characters while the entire time pushing the theme of how superior the women are..just contradicting
Disney seems to be inclusive of everything *EXCEPT* for interesting characters and entertaining storytellers. They have basically become the Jim Crow of creativity, separating the artistry from the art.
When a group people, who pretend for a living, are catered to at every whim are we really surprised they've completely lost track of reality and morality let alone good story telling? Their only reference point is a small narrow hallway that's filled with pimps, sharks, thieves and habitual liars.
UGH! Just when you think Disney can't go any lower? Then they find the will and stupidity to do so! Like seriously, you just have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes, to allow this kind of thing to keep happening?
Well, they made a TV show for 10,000 people of which only 1000 of them watch it and that’s what happens when you’re focused on representing everyone. You kind of forget that most of the people who are watching them aren’t what you’re giving them.
Did anyone really think Disney would take back Kingpin and Daredevil from Netflix and not ruin them? We got Daredevil first and he did a walk of shame in costume, now Kingpin has no trauma and cries. Fucking hell.
The Outlaw Josey Whales, Jeramiah Johnson and Dances with Wolves portrayed native Americans very well. Marvel's bigots just use a paint brush marked "indigenous" on a throw-away character in a fish wrap script. This is just black-face.
These are just student film productions at this point. I'm not even joking, the morality, the heavy handedness, the messaging (you may take a sip). These are just student productions burning through piles of money.
After seeing windows smashed in daily throughout LA and SF, you'd think the writers would know what a broken window actually looks like. Unless they are saying tribal Americans are too dumb to know the difference and somehow managed to custom fit housing window glass for all their car windows.
@@CATAZTR0PHETake a wild guess on how diverse the people making these decisions actually are and you should get your answer. I’m just waiting for someone to photoshop Kevin Fiege’s, Kathleen Kennedy’s, or Bob Iger’s face onto the “How do you do, fellow students?” meme with the caption “How do you do, fellow minorities/feminists/women?”
I’m proudly audistic, if I wanted to listen to that; I’d watch baby seals being clubbed. Being deaf is the easy disability to use. Just don’t react to sounds.
They do this to troll us - they double down on the stuff that draws the most criticism...this is the attitude of petulant children who hate being told that they're acting like idiots by their parents. Instead of taking criticism on board they poke out their tongue, give us the finger, act like petty toddlers and go and do more of the same, then the cycle repeats, over n over n over again
I find it hilarious that Hollywood producers literally wholeheartedly believe they are saving lives by simply paying someone to not say anything and film it.
PSA to writers: Safety glass and tempered glass have been pretty much universal since like the 1940's. Safety glass and tempered glass would not produce shards like that👍
@@Freeyourdollar Info I had gave the wrong year. The Highway Safety Act in 1965 is what mandated that, so what you say makes sense. That said, that looked like a mid-1970s/early-1980s Chevy pickup, so the stuff from the show is still BS.
I'm Choctaw & none of what this show says about the Choctaw is accurate at all, it's really insulting how they gave women superpowers with girl boss plot armor & the men are there to be helpless, stupid, in distress. 😓😭
That warning at the start should be on Echo. The Navajo showrunner (and director that changed Echo's power set) could not be bothered to represent the Choctaw tribe accurately, while claiming representation is the most important thing about this disaster. Peak Marvel right there. Hire an agenda pusher, try to make sure she is a professional victim, and let her be lame.
@@markcarpenter6020 But her mother was a Cherokee Princess! How can she not know what she's making better for purposes of educating the pale-faced knuckle draggers? My ancestors walked the Trail of Tears and I resent Disney/Marvel even more than I did yesterday simply b/c this show exists. Making all NDNs the same for the sake of selling us as a package deal for the UC Berkeley grads writing this garbage has done no one any favors.
I sat stone-faced for 4 episodes. But when Maya went full Captain Planet in episode 5, I started laughing and couldn't stop for minutes. God, I love the M-She-U. It's like watching a mentally challenged kid try to build a LEGO house. It's somehow incredibly endearing.
I’m confused. Davros in Doctor Who can’t be in a wheelchair because we would associate all people in wheelchairs as evil. So, does this mean we should all amputees are criminals since Echo is a criminal?
You should be because what you said makes no sense. Russell T. Davies said the wheelchair thing. Marvel or anyone at Marvel have nothing to do with that statement or Doctor Who. You created a straw man from two things that have nothing to do with each other
@@DigitalRuler48 They're both linked to Disney, tho. Disney doesn't own Doctor Who, but as of 2022 it funds Who and has streaming rights. They also have creative input and do their own test screenings (RTD has confirmed both of those things). And we know Disney requires certain representations in things.
Dude!!!! Try to keep the forums a safe place and refrain from saying the C-word! We like the word "lawfully challenged". Thanks and do better. Be better.
@@DigitalRuler48 Absolutely nothing to do with each other. Just like how the 45th president and the famous mid-century German have absolutely nothing to do with each other, yet somehow they always end up being compared because people pretend they share the same ideology. Russell T. Davies and the producers of Echo *actually DO* share the same ideology, and are quite explicit about how they use these shows as a vehicle to spread that ideology. You can play an idiot on TV if you want and act like it's a strawman, but you know that we know better.
@@Mangolorian-je3eoThey only own the distribution rights lol. Just like Doctor Who, the BBC (for Bluey, in partnership with Ludo) still has full control over the IP.
There already was a perfect film for deaf representation: The Quiet Place. It has a deaf main character, who isn't defined by her deafness, just happens to be deaf. And as making noises is dangerous, her disability is actually an advantage. She already learned to function without sounds, and her family already fluent in sign language. This is how you do it without ruining the story and annoying everyone.
Deaf people are loud, they dont know that walking makes a sound, farting makes a sound, or laughing makes a sound unless someone tells them. Whenever she is in an unfamiliar place or situation, there is a very real chance she will make enough noise to attract a monster.
After 2018’s Black Panther movie there has been this noticeable push to “check boxes” as they said. Marvel treats DEI characters like Oprah giving away cars in 2004. Are you Asian? Well, you’re getting Shang-Chi. Are you Indian? Here, you get Ms. Marvel. Are you gay? You get the Eternals and America Chavez' two moms. Are you black? You get Falcon-America! Native American? You get Echo! Great, everyone is now represented! Yippie!
Difference is Black Panther 1 was actually a good movie that complimented the other Marvel movies well because the Panther had been in the Preceding Marvel Movies. However you are right Captain Marvel, the Chinese dude movie black pantheress 2, the tv show with a woman whose real name first name is Moses as a Jedi SMH yep its all turned to annoying woke doodoo gold.
I fully enjoyed Echo. I turned it on and while it started off bad I realized I had to be more inclusive while watching. So I identified as blind and deaf with narcolepsy. Let me tell you, it got so much better after that. Especially after the narcolepsy put me to sleep. I watched the whole season while suffering a bout from the narcolepsy- it should be mandatory for any MCU watching.
It always baffles me how these writers who never read comic books, or care of that kind of thing get put in charge of working on these projects and feel they know better than the source material. It's insane. Disney, you're all idiots.
Yeah, it baffles me how these people have no idea about what they're writing about but they continue to get a paycheck. But even if they do know the material like Kevin Smith, they just pander to the DEI crowd anyway. I'm just sick of Hollyweird, full of strange terrible ideas.
I have been saying this for a few years now. Why don’t they hire writers who actually read comic books? Makes no sense to me. They are hiring writers that do not care what the fans want.
yeah, but you should watch a show first and then decide for yourself if you liked it or not. Right now I'm two episodes in and I don't see so much problems tbh. It's not a good show, but not bad either. Recommendation: you should watch Hawkeye; even though people say it's a show "nobody watched"; The show was so good!
All my react channels seem to be enjoying it. And rotten tomatoes has its audeince and pro score about 60%. I'm going to probably enjoy it based on that alone tbh. I dunno who this guy is but i feels like they really had to reach here.
Hollywood has always been woke, deaf actress Marlee Matlin won an Oscar for Children of a Lesser God beating out Sigourney Weaver for Aliens. Does anyone remember Children of a Lesser God?
Ok, that's not exactly the same type of "woke". Artistically focused works much more frequently handle non-majority demographics and characteristics. "My Left Foot" wasn't "woke". It was just more artsy and inaccessible to a typical audience. "The Driving Bell and the Butterfly"...same.
Before the US became a culture of adolescent girls people with disabilities didn’t want to be treated as special. We integrated people and only made appropriate arrangements to integrate them. In other words we wouldn’t say “it’s so cool that you’re deaf and use sign language” because that’s just how they communicated. Now we’re encouraged to speak to everyone like children “you’re so special!”
We used to understand that it's actually not good to lack something that normal people have. We didn't hate them, they weren't persecuted, but we weren't lying to them and ourselves to make everyone "feel better." (it actually makes everyone feel a lot worse to lie)
The big question here is, will they now recast Daredevil with an actor who is really blind, so all the blind people out there can see themselves represented on the screen too?🤔🤔🤔
Omens of the show’s quality before the show aired: The fact that the director shares a surname and resting b- face with Canada’s deputy Prime minister and WEF executive. The fact that the director called Echo’s powers LAME (meaning disabled in a manner which impairs/prohibits movement) after changing the character to have a missing leg. “Deaf, indigenous amputee” repeated ad infinitum. That fight sequence leak.
She said growing up all she saw was white male hero leads. So I take it she never watched Wesley Snipes, Wil Smith, Jackie Chan, Sigourney Weaver, Michael J. White, Angelina Jolie, Anna Paquin, Angela Bassett (love her), and just about every horror movie which features a woman as the last survivor. I mean what is this woman talking about??
Just because this show didn't meat your expectations dosnt mean it's the worst movie ever you guys will see in 2024 but until then continue being racist bullys😅
@@EarlierfourThe fact the valid criticism is hand waved and labeled as “racist” is insane. I’m typically pretty in the middle on a lot of changes Disney makes and the directions they take characters. This show was dogshit. Not only are they changing characters to push an agenda now, they’re changing powers to double down on pushing their agenda. Stop hiding behind racism as a way to deflect criticism. This show isn’t about representation. It’s a mockery of native culture, and the only people that can’t see that are either willfully ignorant or too dumb to see that the studio they’re praising for representing them couldn’t care less about them or their people. If it wasn’t profitable they wouldn’t bother doing it.
@@Earlierfour And now that it's 2024, the "ur racist because u hurt my feefees" doesn't really hit the same either. Nobody cares if you're offended dude. It's a hilariously bad show that is peak modern garbage, and it failed epicly as a result. Nothing surprising here.
he's an actwhtore he get paid to do what ever lol thats his job to do what others tell him to, sad but its reality of life, he should have got a degree so he could get a real job
The whole "I need to see myself on the screen" thing is pure narcissism and entitlement. Who cares, so long as the plot is good and they're good at actually acting?
Sure, but it's also just plain stupid people saying these things. I just can't fathom why we pander to these losers in the first place. AS IF they would EVER help white people if they had the chance. It's not like we can't see what's happening in South Africa.
Complete over correction from the time when companies wanted all white cast or white models only, etc. by the time people started noticing the companies were already moving away from that and imo doing enough that it didn't matter anymore. But then the other side saw it as a way to leverage themselves or make money, etc. and now we're here in the extremist timeline where there's no middle ground in anything anymore. Where if you don't put the right flag in your bio you support genocide. Or if you don't have your pronouns you're the problem. Or if you aren't marching on the street with women kissing the ground they walk on you're a bigot. Or if you swing liberal but that one time you agreed with something trump said you're a white supremacist. It's complete lunacy
The sign language sequences reminded me of a Monty Python sketch where they filmed a Jane Austin book where the characters communicated with signal flags.
It makes you wonder how much damage Disney is willing to do to their own brands before they actually do something to fix their reputation because I feel it’s too late now for a lot of people they’re a tainted brand in a lot peoples eyes and will never be trusted like they used to be
The only people that care or cared for Disney as a brand are either cryogenically frozen or still drag their trash selves and kids to California annually to spend money they don't have...
If we reimagine Echo, why not make her be someone struggling with boredom and frustration because? Her "copy" ability would make her awesome at all kinds of things, but she never has to put effort in so she never feels accomplished.
As a Native American, I don't feel represented -- I feel mocked.
The brain rot comments aren't shocking.
I apologize on behalf of white men. Don't know how I wronged you, but I'm sure it's my fault somehow. My daughter's fault, too. Forgive us!
As a western male, that is all these clowns have done to everything I love for the last decade.
As a human. I don't feel represented - I feel mocked
But don't you like having a megacorop like disney insinuate that all native american tribes can be "represented" by one tribe with it's magical girlbosses that didn't need no men ever?
as a blk person I say: Join the Club.
That clip at the beginning of Vincent D'onofrio saying he has to work with what he's given is heartbreaking.
an Award worthy interview dialogue! If it had a music queue like in the Truman Show, I would even shed tears for Private Pyle!
And disturbing. What is he, a robot? Does he feel no shame? Is he afraid of being blacklisted forever if he *dares* to not participate?
I caught that too
@@torikazuki8701 Maybe he has contractual obligations and signed up for X number of projects no matter what. A lot of big superhero content actors are on contracts like that from what I've heard.
@@torikazuki8701 Same reason you see decent actos in life time movies. Hes got bills to pay just like everyone else truth is theres verey ittle work in hollowood and most of its snapped up in nepotisim. Hollywood is a much smaller circle than most realize if your not related to someone and most of them are its extremely hard to get anywhere.
Competent writers are the most underrepresented group at Disney today.
We all can tell the difference between Disneymarvel and Marvel Studios.
because kevin feige knows how to make good movie’s.
I mean endgame and infinity war was a sight to behold the first adventure’s still looks really good even the original iron man is one of the best movies in marvels catalog (in my opinion)
Competent writers are the most non-existent group at Disney today.
Nailed it lol 😝
Not allowed to hire whitie anymore.
competent writers at marvel do not exist anymore!
As a native, this is garbage and I promise you, 1% of us are woke. 99% of us have common sense.
That's probably the point.. don't assume "they're just poorly informed or uneducated."
(The insidious nature of those creating these prop pieces suggests it's entirely by design.. essentially they want their cake and to eat it too.. claiming a virtue signal yet doing the exact opposite.. you'll notice the pattern, ridicule the masses.. all of which they despise and profit.)
So you mean you are just normal people, go figure.
@@justforever96That's hot garbage. Nobody who is Indian or Indian associated would tell you 1% is woke. It's a reservation section 8 life. It's pure victim pathology.
Btw there's absolutely no reason to call them 'native'. Historically you'd never have the evidence for such a claim. Some of them were just here before some other people. You have no way of knowing who was here before that. In fact some of the Northern legends claim they took the land as spoils from pale hair giants.
"Hearing privilege" almost made me spit out my drink 😂😂😂
These people have no shame.
These people are such losers
That exactly what I thought😂 ridiculous... hearing privilege...
I never realised that being able to hear was a privilege 😂
They should of had Da Brat do the sound track of Echo because..... Da Brat is So So Def..,,
There needs to be a serious overhaul at Disney. Too many people who have no original ideas are working there. I feel it will only get worse.
Did they really just take an actual nation of people that exists in real life and cast them as more and less a race of magical elves
Hollywood has been doing that with black people for decades. Look up the TV trope "magical n3gr0" (but spelled correctly).
Are you talking about Wakanda ?😅
naked savages received a meteor from sky and magically became more technologically advanced than the entire planet a magical dark-elves indeed
Marvel should take a 2 year break.
ITS FICTION.
@@BubbyandBgirl Then why tf is it about REPRESENTATION of the native people if it's supposed to be just goofy ass magical elves fiction. Disney marvel doesn't know shit about their characters and their woke audience doesn't know wtf they're watching either.
They should have called this series “The Echo Chamber” based on the interviews shown.
Bravo sir
That would've been far too self-aware of them
Nice!
They should call it Echo gets authoritah as she seems to think so by constanty raising her eyebrow
Then take the L marvel I’m glad you are failing
Echo was designed to literally be the yin to Daredevil's yang. A deaf woman who's heightened sense of sight gives her enhanced powers vs a blind man who's heightened sense of hearing gives him enhanced powers. How were the writers so dumb as to not understand that?
Easy, non-STEM College Education
First time?
@@Elba.Ginon93writing is usually prominent in non-stem degrees like arts so idk what are you on about
Just no clue about the source material. This is how that happens.
@@Wolffman109 lol, right? I think I'm just particularly perplexed about Echo bc she's already a deaf Native American woman. Disney, you've got all your woke representation points you need right there without having to change anything about the character. Her story within the Daredevil comics is really good. There was no need to throw it all in the trash and especially no need to give her a prosthetic leg???
The fact that she herself said "Me-she" just shows how off the deep end marvel is. Congrats you live rent free in their heads
Japan : " here comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh ready. "
Jujutsu kaisen: " ready ! "
Demon slayer : " ready ! "
Goblin Slayer : " ready ! "
Record of Ragnarok : " ready ! "
One piece : " ready ! "
Soul eater : " ready ! "
Berserk : " ready ! "
Vampire hunter D : " ready ! "
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@@wolfbane7497 don't forget jujutsu kaisen
I thought echo was a documentary on the inside of Disney leadership's heads!?!?
They should of had Da Brat do the sound track of Echo because..... Da Brat is So So Def
To be fair, it isn't the actress that said "M-She", but the interpreter.
Casting Director: What are your qualifications?
Actor: I'm an incompetent victim.
Casting Director: You're hired.
I am fluent in ASL and worked with deaf people for a number of years. True Deaf culture is one of the most toxic, victim enabling cultures I have ever seen. It fits perfectly with Disney's identity politics. This is a truly pathetic and sad show.
I had this same experience when I studied ASL in college sadly, I didn't stick around to really find out if the whole community was that way. College was enough
@@christianmindgameshe’s not wrong, I took asl for years in high school and it’s toxic af
could you elaborate? i've never heard that about the toxicity of the culture and i'd love to know more - not trying to challenge your claim, just legitimately curious
@@christianmindgamesThey are insular, elitist, and are almost always insistent that their disability (if inherited) should be passed on to their children in order to perpetuate their "culture". OP nailed it. 🤷♂️
That explains the heffer that came up to my car at motel 6 a few weeks back and started barking at me and flashing gang signs while I was smoking a cigarette...
"It checked all the boxed except one, good storytelling."
Gary just roasted all of Hollywood with that one sentence.
Yeah...
Character does something - why asked wiever - yes hollywood said.
Character receives an item - from where viewer asked - yes hollywood said
Time erratically skips back and forth - what happened viewer asked - yes said hollywood
It's lazy. it's rude. And he's wrong. It doesn't check anything.
🍤🍤🍤
@@urbnctrl Shrimp fried rice?
Exactly. 👍
Who wants to end representation? Maybe if we end that people will focus a bit more on what is actually important: writing stories with muscular male action heroes that are a role model for men and eye candy for women.
“I have hearing privilege.” I didn’t think we could go lower in clown world yet here we are.
Add typing privilege to that. Have you NO shame!!
We can ALWAYS go lower.
@@realistic_delinquentOhhh but we can go lower than lower to the point where lowness is just the beginning
I d say clown USA as Disney is there hahaa😂
I need hearing aids, no one looks down on me if I can't hear them well, just like no one looks down on deaf people. It's one of the fakest grifts these people do.
It could be interesting to have a deaf character but you can't build an entire show around it!
For all these writers bleat on about ‘inclusivity and representation’ they sure do know how to segregate the very people they wish to put on their pedestal from the rest of society.
My thoughts exactly. I doubt any minority group is in dire need of Disney's assistance of public recognition.
because divide and conquer is what this whole thing is about in the first place, but after the divide happened, they realized the percentages are nowhere near even, so they had to pay for the social media bot armies to create loud minorities to drive their politics further, and when they got this far, the real world percentages started to show in their box office numbers, and now they have no other tools any more to drive their agenda forwards
That's because it's never about "rEpReSeNtAtIoN," it's about splitting people up into tribalistic groups that those inside can use the arbitrary characteristics of to worship themselves for having ("i SEeEeEE mYsElf oN sCrEnE!!1!"), then they can use to pit against each other to push for more institutional power. They don't care about 'rEpReSeNtAtIoN," they only see groups to capture and then indoctrinate to act as meat shields, trojan horses, and sleeper cells to spread their collectivist ideology like a cancer.
If you really want to see how much they care about "rEpReSeNtAtIoN," introduce them to Eric July.
It's a communist tactic to divide groups so they can fight each other, destroy society and introduce communism as a solution.
They can't empathise so they think everyone literally has to see themselves on the screen in order to relate.
I have several Native friends and I explained the show and Echo's power to them and they were embarrassed and insulted. So yeah, Marvel fucked this one up majorly.
I'd like to know how that conversation went
Remember old school characters like Turok? Native American, shot guns and arrows like a bad ass, outright killed raptors with his bare hands.
Or even Red Harlow from Red Dead Revolver? You can make Native characters and have them be interesting, Marvel. It's not that hard...
Super native spirit powers that make bad guys like Kingpin see the error of their ways.
Didn't happen
@@BrokenCornholio1537 So you'd like it better if it was a buff sexy guy, is what you're saying?
The words "Hearing Privileged" makes me want to box the director's ears.
Homelander him
😂😂😂😂 I was like wtf 😂😂😂
its a privileged compared to deaf people yes. But i feel not even deaf people would agree with that statement. People who had the courage to adapt to a disability wouldn't waste time to think about sh1t like that cause they are better than this. Coincidentally all "something privilege" phrases statistically at least come from the blue haired, septum wearers. While most deaf people in this case, mind their business most of the time
Gary getting the actual Disney actors to Freudian slip a M-She-U in an interview is epic.
Well, it was her interpreter - I don't think she signed "M-She-U" because that's not how ASL works.
That was my favorite part as well.
@@gunnar6674 That makes it even better
@@gunnar6674 You'd also think that's not how interpreting works, lol, to say something the person didn't sign.
Yeah
Picture this: Netflix's Daredevil being a monumental success without 1) Charlie Cox not actually being blind and,
2) having blind representation being impossible since blind people can't see themselves in Daredevil
It’s literally part of his character, are you stupid? And for the second thing, really?
lol
I love the fact that Marvel is trying so hard to pretend that they didn't have an amputee in the Marvel Universe years ago. I guess Bucky was a ghost.
Men don’t count… in their eyes
White male, doesn't count.
And simu liu he’s mentally disabled😂
Or a disabled character in Daredevil. But he's white and male and straight so he doesn't count.
Only matters if it’s a woman.
hearing privilege???? whats wrong with these people?
You know what’s crazy, I used to not miss a single minute of MCU content and now I come to your videos to see whether it’s worth watching or not. Thanks for helping me not waste any time on this one. My man 💯
Same mate. Same
none of this shit is worth it anymore. I just watch Disparu reviews which I like the style of a lot as he uses the videos so can see whats actually happening, and then all Garys videos to see him destroy Disney and M-SHE-U while barely having to try.
Took the words right out of my mouth
same here man. they have abandoned their fan base
Same here. Lol. The last thing MCU I watched was guardians of galaxy. Next maybe deadpool 3.
I’m embarrassed for D’onofriio. He’s an exceptional actor who must have been temporarily insane to sign up for a role like this.
Nothing is bad with this show your just a bully and a racist who can't handle a girl being the main character 😅
a job to pay the bills.
Money baby
My guess is that contracts of some of the actors force them have to appear in sequels or spin offs so that they can not negotiate their pay with the studio. D'Onofrio (Hawkeye, Echo), Cox (She-Hulk, Echo), Harrison Ford (Sequels, Indiana Jones: DoD), ...
Insert: electro defending Spidermans name meme
Her "new" powers has gotta be the most stupid, unnecessary and convoluted change.
They are that way because skills like photographic memory or experience in fighting or weapons are too boring for a character they likely want to have being in the big leagues fighting Galactus and stuff, so time to give her big, showy powers that reserve the right to be vague when they need to for the sake of the story.
They think we'd just be bored if she was a well-trained fighter who kicks ass, like in the comics.
DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT MADE DAREDEVIL WORK?? WHY WE LOVE IT?
Because, dammit. Not everyone NEEDS powers. Especially not dumbass ones.
Yup, obviously watch, learn, adapt, (ab)use was just too complicated.
We are talking about the power of Body Positivity, right?
Now he is a stereotype of a Native American character who has powers thanks to the spirits of his ancestors or nature, really r4cist gringos think that all Native Americans are shamans or healers
- Pick something that is loved and nurtured by an audience made of 99% male, turn it into a feminist pamphlet and hope that it will bring female audience.
- Fail
- Rince and repeat
The cripple fight insert was perfect 😂
Whomevers idea that was deserves a raise 👏
It was my idea and you are welcome
Everything is better with a fat amputee.
The entire They Live fight parody in South Park is the only cripple fight that I need.
For real 😂😂😂😂
1/4 black Garret the editor and he's getting paid way to much already.
As a woman when I watch a superhero movie/series I want to see half naked ripped men doing heroic stuff being competent and strong, I want to see beautiful women in tight costumes being feminine and smart and I want to see relationships between them. You know ... like... what it used to be 🤷♀️
There’s actually porn for that, maybe watch that instead!
@@TomHollandUpdatesbro 😭
That's the natural order, when 14 year old boys trash the 5th ranking Australian women football team and a 16 year old boy can literally physically best 99.9 percnt of women on earth and knowing all that we sit there watching a 5'4 120 lbs female besting 200 lbs men with ease man o man the cringe it generates is unfathomable
Facts same
No silly, that's just your internalised misogyny talking. Now shush up and consume next product, there's a good consumer.
Now I did not watch this but from what I understand Echo has the powers of her ancestors. Does that mean none of her ancestors had the power of hearing?
😅😅 I'm ashamed I didn't think of this myself
I guess none of her ancestors had the power of having two feet either.
Or rational thought.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
If she can copy any power, why can't she copy someone's hearing ability?
Careful, you're treading too far into logic and the woke people hate that
She can't though. Or you mean the original character before they changed it? She can copy a superpower, not just anything they can do. If that was the case then she would have the complete talents of every single person she ever got near, every language they write or speak, every musical talent, their speech giving talent, juggling, archery, flying, pole vaulting, etc. And that's assuming she has to be near them to do so, otherwise it's just every ability that exists anywhere in the world. So it has to be a superpower specifically, and someone else explained that her skill was actually a perfect "photographic muscle memory" so she was able to copy any move she saw someone make. Don't know, I never watched or read any of this.
The M-She-U is a living example of the sunk cost fallacy.
It's an example of hedge funds purposely destroying a company to short it and then buy it up for pennies on the dollar.
@@TyrianHazeCan't wait until the day Disney stocks actually becomes a penny per stock.
But maybe if on the next movie they have all-female catering it will finally work out for them XD
Damn, watching this series feels like such a slog, and I just seen only the recaps. lol
I thought it was just a living example of the fact that you actually need to make an effort to learn a skill in order to be good at it.
Echo fights made battles of Power Rangers look like masterpieces.
At least those could be FUN.
What Marvel really needs is good writer representation
Hearing privilege?! What next existence privilege?!
Funny how these showrunners still haven't learned that disparaging the creators and source material that your series is based on isn't good for business
At this point it is abundantly clear that "business" is not Hollywood's top priority anymore
I don't think this series had a show runner.
Yeah, I don’t think they care. They get blank checks and Disney wants a show even if the people making the show know it isn’t good.
Or insulting their viewers, aka their costumers.
I don't care how many heads will roll until they go broke!
Shame to waste Kingpin like that. Dude's an amazing actor.
They arnt wasting him he's been in many marvel project and he's also coming back in daredevil born again you should really do more research
@@Earlierfourlobotomy
@@Earlierfour they're wasting his talent is what I've meant. Dude is great at what he does. They could have given him his own show, went full Godfather 2 with it, then after a season or two, when he's at the height of his power, they bring in Daredevil, make it dark as hell. But no they have him doing glorified cameos in subpar shows
@@EVeljko Woah don't mention amazing Godfather 2 in this trash shows presence!!! :O
@@TanThighsYum man, i said they should have done something like that. Like imagine a whole show about Kingpin building his empire. Starting as a grunt in some gang then slowly taking over the city, with flashbacks to his fukd up childhood here an there. Tell me you wouldn't watch the fck outta that.
Dude was easily the best part of the netflix daredevil show. And he's clearly taken inspiration from Pacino and Brando for his performance. At least it seemed like that to me.
If she has healing powers, why can't she heal her hearing? Probably already thinking about this with more effort than anyone involved in the production.
Being deaf is no wound or something that could or should be healed...😅
Gay Marvel powers heal that
Exactly. But in their world, be deaf, fat, black, and behaving gay is normal and empowering. Does not need healing. Next in California communist Newsom will demand 30% of all board members be deaf. And require all employees to learn sign language.
@@MrGecroslol idk......i mean Jesus healed the blind man, he didn't just walk by and say "hey you're perfect just the way you are, and i'm sure you wouldn't want me to heal your blindness anyways huh?"....ill just be on my way instead
@@MrGecros Uh...yes it is, LOL. People have EARS for a reason, numb nuts!
People who have ears YET CAN'T HEAR AT ALL are human defects! They're not normal! If they could be healed of deafness, they would do it!
“As a hearing person” ?????!!? 😂😂😂
Whoever is in charge of the video editing needs a raise! Absolutely hilarious as always!!!
Yeah. Same with the guy who does the thumbnails😂😂😂😂😂
That woodchipper scene had me spitting my food out 😂
The sound fx for the punches thrown between Daredevil and Echo were too funny!
Pierry Chan is the best!
Gotta give the Sitcom The Big Bang Theory some credit in hindsight
“Even deaf people can be bad”
That deaf character in that TBBT episode was a b*tch lol
All types of people have a propensity for being good or bad. Sheldon Cooper is super BASED.
not as bas failed artists@@Langley_Ackerman19
Sheldon is a less jaded, and likely less intelligent version of my cousin.
It’s really a depressing era we are in ..
That is not how windshields break. Having her leg crushed would make far more sense. I'm glad you pointed that out. Disney writers should be the first to be replaced by AI. 😂
A.I. could easily put a chick in it and make more lame.
This makes me a person who suffers from male pattern baldness, want to go into the hair and beauty industry. We need more representation, more inclusiveness in the marketplace that descriminates and promotes the full of head of hair privilege.
Keeps was started by a man who is in fact completely bald
my hairstyle identifies as a reverse mohawk
Need more representation in shampoo commercials 😂
We need bald women
It's only fair
The worst thing that ever happened to nerd culture is it went mainstream.
facts
its literally killing things like D&D and Magic.
and gaming
Absolutely true 100% 😢
adapting nerdie stuff to "normies" fckd up everything. I admit I never saw it coming
I have to say, I really didn't think they could get perpetually worse and yet they keep finding ways. It's almost impressive.
I've said it a few other places. Disney has a magic barrel and when they scrape the bottom of the barrel, it produces coffin nails. It's the only way to explain the number of nails they are putting in Marvels coffin.
Wait. New low is coming. Madam Webb.
Somethign i learn from humans, is that they can always get worst always
@@svetlanaandrasova6086 Cant possibly worse than this and the Marvels... or could it? :S
I’m kinda enjoying the downfall..
It’s just funny that people in powerful positions green lighted millions in resources for this. Objectively stupid and it’s funny to watch these ass clowns lose money 🤣
Turns out, making MCU streaming shows wasn't such a good idea.
"Fell on *deaf ears*"
"Despite their *reservations*"
"Went ahead with their big *gamble*"
"Not sure if you *heard*"
The entire fandom is pushing these puns and it is absolutely glorious... ROFL!!!!
You missed the "trail of tears" one near the end 😂
I'm gonna go drink my cares away. XD
@@LowTierPancakesnot funny goofy
i just hate how these female shows try n steal the hype n audience of the male characters while the entire time pushing the theme of how superior the women are..just contradicting
That is my exact problem with all this. I think that is the core of the problem for most people.
Inclusion means we all play together, this entire movement is replacement and vandalisation.
Disney seems to be inclusive of everything *EXCEPT* for interesting characters and entertaining storytellers. They have basically become the Jim Crow of creativity, separating the artistry from the art.
When a group people, who pretend for a living, are catered to at every whim are we really surprised they've completely lost track of reality and morality let alone good story telling? Their only reference point is a small narrow hallway that's filled with pimps, sharks, thieves and habitual liars.
UGH! Just when you think Disney can't go any lower? Then they find the will and stupidity to do so! Like seriously, you just have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes, to allow this kind of thing to keep happening?
Well, they made a TV show for 10,000 people of which only 1000 of them watch it and that’s what happens when you’re focused on representing everyone. You kind of forget that most of the people who are watching them aren’t what you’re giving them.
Like people in 4:34 :D
They only released it because they would have angered those 10k if they had shelved it
They arent representing everyone, they are only representing that one.
Hollywood for some reason focuses on 1% of people instaed of the rest of us who would actually help them make money.
Well they made it for virtue signalers. Who aren't fans of the comics and aren't particularly interested in the MCU even
How can Disney ruin a cool character like King Pin it is insane
Oh i hate that so much. He was so huge in everyway in the daredevil, and now he is laughable
Did anyone really think Disney would take back Kingpin and Daredevil from Netflix and not ruin them? We got Daredevil first and he did a walk of shame in costume, now Kingpin has no trauma and cries. Fucking hell.
They didn't he's still strong
@@Afton_of_2006
He's a strong joke, you're right
The same way they ruined Luke Skywalker
The Outlaw Josey Whales, Jeramiah Johnson and Dances with Wolves portrayed native Americans very well. Marvel's bigots just use a paint brush marked "indigenous" on a throw-away character in a fish wrap script. This is just black-face.
Dances With Wolves says we're all dead.
Comanche and the Sioux groups were fighters..... Choctaw were....cryers
Did that woman really say “hearing privileged?”
These are just student film productions at this point. I'm not even joking, the morality, the heavy handedness, the messaging (you may take a sip). These are just student productions burning through piles of money.
My student film and the others I worked on were a hell of a lot better than this bloated garbage. But then, I graduated 20 yrs ago. . .
@@aluvrianne I don't know who you are or what you've done so far, but I completely believe you
Disney should have called this show... The Echo Chamber.
Echo Chamber, Cassie Lang, America Chavez and that girl from The Marvels should join to make a new superteam called The Insufferables.
To represent the California they live in today??!?
After seeing windows smashed in daily throughout LA and SF, you'd think the writers would know what a broken window actually looks like. Unless they are saying tribal Americans are too dumb to know the difference and somehow managed to custom fit housing window glass for all their car windows.
These creators are incompetent and it shows
@@CATAZTR0PHETake a wild guess on how diverse the people making these decisions actually are and you should get your answer.
I’m just waiting for someone to photoshop Kevin Fiege’s, Kathleen Kennedy’s, or Bob Iger’s face onto the “How do you do, fellow students?” meme with the caption “How do you do, fellow minorities/feminists/women?”
I’m proudly audistic, if I wanted to listen to that; I’d watch baby seals being clubbed.
Being deaf is the easy disability to use. Just don’t react to sounds.
The MCU collapsed harder than a construction site.
A feminist construction site maybe.
harder than WTC7, with the same inner coup.
@@rector0455do they have feminist plumbers? I’d it mysoginst when they show crack?
It’s absolutely wild that they still have investors for any products they make…
Just fink and his cronies.
truly
They do this to troll us - they double down on the stuff that draws the most criticism...this is the attitude of petulant children who hate being told that they're acting like idiots by their parents.
Instead of taking criticism on board they poke out their tongue, give us the finger, act like petty toddlers and go and do more of the same, then the cycle repeats, over n over n over again
You know what kind of representation Marvel/Disney is missing? Good stories and characters first.
I find it hilarious that Hollywood producers literally wholeheartedly believe they are saving lives by simply paying someone to not say anything and film it.
we are living in a south park film
We live in a comedy, or we must laugth to not realizing we live in a tragedy
Nope it's Trotskism it's designed to create division and conflict between the two sides. They don't give two wit's about deaf people
@@Krysnhaan Idiotopia being run by an Idiotocracy.
I wonder how many deaf people watched Echo AND liked it.
That must be only like 12 people.
PSA to writers: Safety glass and tempered glass have been pretty much universal since like the 1940's. Safety glass and tempered glass would not produce shards like that👍
You are correct. It was mandated in 1937, so there is zero chance this vehicle didn't have it.
@@Anoneemus_Noenayme you mean
"Were all creatively bankrupt. Wanna try chatgpt?"
Incorrect I went through a window in the mid 70's and my cut artery says that safety standards were not in place.
@@Freeyourdollar Info I had gave the wrong year. The Highway Safety Act in 1965 is what mandated that, so what you say makes sense. That said, that looked like a mid-1970s/early-1980s Chevy pickup, so the stuff from the show is still BS.
I wouldn’t go as far as calling these assholes “writers”. It’s an insult to every proper writer out there, and I’m including erotic fanfic writers.
I hate everything about Disney now. Continuing to call this monstrosity Disney is an insult to the man's name and Legacy
I prefer DEIsney
I prefer Gaysney
Disgay
indeed its one monstrous pile of flie infested poo.
Disney. Ride or Die for DEI
I'm Choctaw & none of what this show says about the Choctaw is accurate at all, it's really insulting how they gave women superpowers with girl boss plot armor & the men are there to be helpless, stupid, in distress. 😓😭
Funny how the term ‘deaf’ perfectly describes the writers, producers, actors and directors of Disney Marvel.
That warning at the start should be on Echo. The Navajo showrunner (and director that changed Echo's power set) could not be bothered to represent the Choctaw tribe accurately, while claiming representation is the most important thing about this disaster. Peak Marvel right there. Hire an agenda pusher, try to make sure she is a professional victim, and let her be lame.
Least they didn't bastardize the Cherokee. That would have had my late grandfather(who was Cherokee) clawing his way out of hell to get at them.
@@markcarpenter6020 why he in hell?
@@IndianaJake because he would have been bored to tears in heaven.
@@markcarpenter6020 But her mother was a Cherokee Princess! How can she not know what she's making better for purposes of educating the pale-faced knuckle draggers?
My ancestors walked the Trail of Tears and I resent Disney/Marvel even more than I did yesterday simply b/c this show exists. Making all NDNs the same for the sake of selling us as a package deal for the UC Berkeley grads writing this garbage has done no one any favors.
@@markcarpenter6020 Your grandpa sounds unironically more interesting and more compelling than anything the MCU has produced in a while.
I sat stone-faced for 4 episodes. But when Maya went full Captain Planet in episode 5, I started laughing and couldn't stop for minutes. God, I love the M-She-U. It's like watching a mentally challenged kid try to build a LEGO house. It's somehow incredibly endearing.
Why would you watch this trash? I never understand why people "hatewatch" something and then wonder why more of this trash is being produced...
I'm mentally challenged and I have a piece of Lego wedged up my nose
Don’t give them views.
@@Quincy_Morris who... mentally challenged people?
@@Quincy_MorrisDon't tell me what to watch.
Hearing privilege... WTF??? Was she serious???
They made a character that was: female, check, gay (assumed) and lame in more than one way. Excelsior!
theres no point putting in straight while males for superheroes because superheroes are all basically ghey to begin with, i thought that was the point
"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man, and take away all sense of reason, and accountability."
Deaf writers ✅
Diverse writers ✅
Good writers ❌
Deaf has nothing to do with diverse it's just a disability
I think they were making this for a blind and deaf audience. No one was originally going to see it.
Hasbro lets 20000 more jobs go after zero echo toy sales
I’m confused. Davros in Doctor Who can’t be in a wheelchair because we would associate all people in wheelchairs as evil. So, does this mean we should all amputees are criminals since Echo is a criminal?
You should be because what you said makes no sense. Russell T. Davies said the wheelchair thing. Marvel or anyone at Marvel have nothing to do with that statement or Doctor Who. You created a straw man from two things that have nothing to do with each other
@@DigitalRuler48 Nvm, You missed the point that both are Woke nonsense.
@@DigitalRuler48 They're both linked to Disney, tho. Disney doesn't own Doctor Who, but as of 2022 it funds Who and has streaming rights. They also have creative input and do their own test screenings (RTD has confirmed both of those things). And we know Disney requires certain representations in things.
Dude!!!! Try to keep the forums a safe place and refrain from saying the C-word! We like the word "lawfully challenged". Thanks and do better. Be better.
@@DigitalRuler48 Absolutely nothing to do with each other. Just like how the 45th president and the famous mid-century German have absolutely nothing to do with each other, yet somehow they always end up being compared because people pretend they share the same ideology.
Russell T. Davies and the producers of Echo *actually DO* share the same ideology, and are quite explicit about how they use these shows as a vehicle to spread that ideology. You can play an idiot on TV if you want and act like it's a strawman, but you know that we know better.
Kind of crazy that a show about cartoon Australian dogs has better writing and character development than the MCU does
Bluey's a national treasure mate.
@@SuperLloyd84 100 percent agree.
That’s not kind of crazy at all mate. What’s crazy is that a dad chasing his daughter’s imaginary fairies with a cricket bat *is owned by disney*.
@@Mangolorian-je3eo it’s crazy when you realize that the mcu used to have great writing
@@Mangolorian-je3eoThey only own the distribution rights lol. Just like Doctor Who, the BBC (for Bluey, in partnership with Ludo) still has full control over the IP.
There already was a perfect film for deaf representation: The Quiet Place. It has a deaf main character, who isn't defined by her deafness, just happens to be deaf. And as making noises is dangerous, her disability is actually an advantage. She already learned to function without sounds, and her family already fluent in sign language.
This is how you do it without ruining the story and annoying everyone.
Echo is about a superhero that's deaf how is that anyway related to a group of racists who kidnapped black people 😅
Deaf people are loud, they dont know that walking makes a sound, farting makes a sound, or laughing makes a sound unless someone tells them. Whenever she is in an unfamiliar place or situation, there is a very real chance she will make enough noise to attract a monster.
@@EarlierfourWhat are you talking about?
HUH?🤨@@Earlierfour
@@Earlierfour
Drop your troll bait somewhere else.
After 2018’s Black Panther movie there has been this noticeable push to “check boxes” as they said. Marvel treats DEI characters like Oprah giving away cars in 2004. Are you Asian? Well, you’re getting Shang-Chi. Are you Indian? Here, you get Ms. Marvel. Are you gay? You get the Eternals and America Chavez' two moms. Are you black? You get Falcon-America! Native American? You get Echo! Great, everyone is now represented! Yippie!
Difference is Black Panther 1 was actually a good movie that complimented the other Marvel movies well because the Panther had been in the Preceding Marvel Movies. However you are right Captain Marvel, the Chinese dude movie black pantheress 2, the tv show with a woman whose real name first name is Moses as a Jedi SMH yep its all turned to annoying woke doodoo gold.
I fully enjoyed Echo. I turned it on and while it started off bad I realized I had to be more inclusive while watching. So I identified as blind and deaf with narcolepsy.
Let me tell you, it got so much better after that. Especially after the narcolepsy put me to sleep. I watched the whole season while suffering a bout from the narcolepsy- it should be mandatory for any MCU watching.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
All aboard the sarcasm train..
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
😂nah.....
Lol
It always baffles me how these writers who never read comic books, or care of that kind of thing get put in charge of working on these projects and feel they know better than the source material. It's insane. Disney, you're all idiots.
Yeah, it baffles me how these people have no idea about what they're writing about but they continue to get a paycheck. But even if they do know the material like Kevin Smith, they just pander to the DEI crowd anyway. I'm just sick of Hollyweird, full of strange terrible ideas.
I have been saying this for a few years now. Why don’t they hire writers who actually read comic books? Makes no sense to me. They are hiring writers that do not care what the fans want.
If you want deaf representation, look at “a quiet place” they did it beautifully.
com'on guys. Marvel is for 12 yr old girls now. Time to go outside and stop supporting an industry that hates you
I'm so glad we have youtubers watching it to let us know how bad the show is. You guys are absolute heroes
If I had to watch this jus to get to that finale I woulda harmed myself
yeah, but you should watch a show first and then decide for yourself if you liked it or not. Right now I'm two episodes in and I don't see so much problems tbh. It's not a good show, but not bad either. Recommendation: you should watch Hawkeye; even though people say it's a show "nobody watched"; The show was so good!
It’s not bad bro
You let this moron decide for you what to watch? Pathetic.
All my react channels seem to be enjoying it. And rotten tomatoes has its audeince and pro score about 60%. I'm going to probably enjoy it based on that alone tbh. I dunno who this guy is but i feels like they really had to reach here.
Hollywood has always been woke, deaf actress Marlee Matlin won an Oscar for Children of a Lesser God beating out Sigourney Weaver for Aliens. Does anyone remember Children of a Lesser God?
No
I've never heard of it.
Yes, it was date night.
Ok, that's not exactly the same type of "woke". Artistically focused works much more frequently handle non-majority demographics and characteristics. "My Left Foot" wasn't "woke". It was just more artsy and inaccessible to a typical audience. "The Driving Bell and the Butterfly"...same.
@@mastpg But Daniel Day Lewis was acting Gary.
Vincent d'onofrio looks like hes dead inside. Such a shame, since hes an amazing actor.
Like how they said George Floyd was a hero which was a slap to us black folks face, this is a slap to native Americans face.
I liked when Mya signs to Kingpin "You called it corn, we called it maize."
Then takes a swig of hand sanitizer.
@@thylabyrinth 😂😂😂😂😂😂you guys are crazy
Before the US became a culture of adolescent girls people with disabilities didn’t want to be treated as special. We integrated people and only made appropriate arrangements to integrate them. In other words we wouldn’t say “it’s so cool that you’re deaf and use sign language” because that’s just how they communicated. Now we’re encouraged to speak to everyone like children “you’re so special!”
We used to understand that it's actually not good to lack something that normal people have.
We didn't hate them, they weren't persecuted, but we weren't lying to them and ourselves to make everyone "feel better."
(it actually makes everyone feel a lot worse to lie)
@@OrchinX "I am better than the normies because I can't see, hear, or speak."
The big question here is, will they now recast Daredevil with an actor who is really blind, so all the blind people out there can see themselves represented on the screen too?🤔🤔🤔
and here is a trophy
I'm so quircky!! I'm bi and partially def. Rawr XD.
It's this but the next wave.
I got a question: If Echo is all powerful how come she didn't grow a new leg?
Or hearing.
Or face
She tried. Ended up in her gut.
omg these replies! lmao
in r eal life she has no leg
I despise Disney.
Omens of the show’s quality before the show aired:
The fact that the director shares a surname and resting b- face with Canada’s deputy Prime minister and WEF executive.
The fact that the director called Echo’s powers LAME (meaning disabled in a manner which impairs/prohibits movement) after changing the character to have a missing leg.
“Deaf, indigenous amputee” repeated ad infinitum.
That fight sequence leak.
She said growing up all she saw was white male hero leads. So I take it she never watched Wesley Snipes, Wil Smith, Jackie Chan, Sigourney Weaver, Michael J. White, Angelina Jolie, Anna Paquin, Angela Bassett (love her), and just about every horror movie which features a woman as the last survivor. I mean what is this woman talking about??
Just like Jennifer Lawrence saying she was the first ever female action hero. These people just live in their own little world.
woke cultists say whatever fits their narrative.
yes but wesley snipes and will smith and jackie chan were considered woke actors and barely anyone watched their movies
@@drinkwater9891 You don’t follow the box office of their movies, do you?
@@totallypreposterous nah im not into woke stuff, im whyt and male so dont watch diversity people i only watch good actors
It's really too bad the criticisms for this show will fall on deaf ears.
Epic irony burn
You win the internet today
Just because this show didn't meat your expectations dosnt mean it's the worst movie ever you guys will see in 2024 but until then continue being racist bullys😅
@@EarlierfourThe fact the valid criticism is hand waved and labeled as “racist” is insane. I’m typically pretty in the middle on a lot of changes Disney makes and the directions they take characters.
This show was dogshit. Not only are they changing characters to push an agenda now, they’re changing powers to double down on pushing their agenda.
Stop hiding behind racism as a way to deflect criticism. This show isn’t about representation. It’s a mockery of native culture, and the only people that can’t see that are either willfully ignorant or too dumb to see that the studio they’re praising for representing them couldn’t care less about them or their people. If it wasn’t profitable they wouldn’t bother doing it.
@@Earlierfour And now that it's 2024, the "ur racist because u hurt my feefees" doesn't really hit the same either. Nobody cares if you're offended dude. It's a hilariously bad show that is peak modern garbage, and it failed epicly as a result. Nothing surprising here.
Now, hearing is a privilege. 😅
Vincent D’onofrio with his own Mark Hamill type coded language in the junkets, telling us this is gonna be garbage
He looks embarrassed
It’s a damn shame what they did to the Kingpin character. Shame on Disney.
he's an actwhtore he get paid to do what ever lol thats his job to do what others tell him to, sad but its reality of life, he should have got a degree so he could get a real job
The whole "I need to see myself on the screen" thing is pure narcissism and entitlement. Who cares, so long as the plot is good and they're good at actually acting?
Sure, but it's also just plain stupid people saying these things. I just can't fathom why we pander to these losers in the first place. AS IF they would EVER help white people if they had the chance. It's not like we can't see what's happening in South Africa.
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Complete over correction from the time when companies wanted all white cast or white models only, etc. by the time people started noticing the companies were already moving away from that and imo doing enough that it didn't matter anymore. But then the other side saw it as a way to leverage themselves or make money, etc. and now we're here in the extremist timeline where there's no middle ground in anything anymore.
Where if you don't put the right flag in your bio you support genocide. Or if you don't have your pronouns you're the problem. Or if you aren't marching on the street with women kissing the ground they walk on you're a bigot.
Or if you swing liberal but that one time you agreed with something trump said you're a white supremacist.
It's complete lunacy
Now it's so bad that if you don't like a show with a disabled person cause it's objectively trash it's because you hate disabled people.
Literally couldn't have checked more boxes without making her a zombie and calling her living impaired...
If there is a clear definition of stupidity, it would be Echo series.
The sign language sequences reminded me of a Monty Python sketch where they filmed a Jane Austin book where the characters communicated with signal flags.
The Semafore Code version of Wuthering Heights :D
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@@daishikaze3986 Julius Caesar on an Aldis Lamp!
Gary almost at the milli milestone. Keep pushin' dude.
It makes you wonder how much damage Disney is willing to do to their own brands before they actually do something to fix their reputation because I feel it’s too late now for a lot of people they’re a tainted brand in a lot peoples eyes and will never be trusted like they used to be
They think they will win before they go broke
@paultemple3660
They’ve manufactured true hatred and division while virtue signalling against it.
THIS!!!!
The damage is the point! Anyone who can’t see that this is a controlled demolition of western culture is in denial.
The only people that care or cared for Disney as a brand are either cryogenically frozen or still drag their trash selves and kids to California annually to spend money they don't have...
If we reimagine Echo, why not make her be someone struggling with boredom and frustration because? Her "copy" ability would make her awesome at all kinds of things, but she never has to put effort in so she never feels accomplished.