Theory of Duna | A short analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video, I analyse data collected from the Duna System and then try and come up with a theory on its history.
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I'd like to apologise beforehand for my use of infinite electricity at 2:33. Turns out using the large robotic arm requires 500.3 electricity and I only brought 400 with me, sorry about that.
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This video is everything I wish the game's report were actually.
The games reports can be interpreted as such. Magnetometer readings, atmospheric experiments with different descriptions, ect
@@tytyguy1able Bob, you are a scientist at heart. I concur, but a little bit of lore doesn't hurt, right? What are the mun arcs? What kind of frequency the monoliths are beaming, who made the pyramids at the Kerbequistan? And in Duna? so many mysteries!
@@tytyguy1ablegame reports: “you eat the minty dirt”
I never see too many people talking about Ike. It's such an odd shaped moon, it's like a 20 sided die or something. I always like going there. Pretty easy to get to, you can catch an encounter back to Kerbin from right there without having to orbit Duna, you can do it fairly cheap, and landing on Ike is always an adventure.
Idk, to me Ike seems like going to the mun or to Dres with extra steps. Dres and the mun each have features to differentiate themselves from other planets, but Ike seems identical to the mun to me, so I’ve only visited Ike twice.
@@bruhmaster4207 It's really only one extra step. Target Duna and get an encounter from Kerbin, then on your mid-course correction, change your target to Ike and line up your encounter/approach. Ike's terrain is much more knobby than Mun. I don't know, to each their own. :)
My first mars mission had so much extra fuel that I managed to land on Ike and return after landing on mars. I had only hoped to land on mars, but I’m glad I managed it.
@@arandomcommenter412 Good job. I should probably try that.
I guess you could say… you like Ike
dude, we need more analysis of kerbal system!
A satellite as large as Ike most likely formed as an independent body that was captured by Duna through a collision - not the same as how the Moon came to be, Ike probably would have much less of Duna's material incorporated in it. That's how Pluto and Charon came to be, and given the huge mass ratio of this system I think that's the most likely explanation.
You should do one on Kerbin, the Ksp community needs lore.
Yeah I plan on doing a whole big theory video on ksp stuff
500 views? Awesome! My next theory video will be on Dres.
19/10/22 1000 views? Awesome-er!
26/10/2022 5000 views, I'm at a loss for words. Next video will probably take a while, Dres is a pain to get to and return from.
after the dres one can u do one on eve?
Mun theory
@@gmthriver2297 what do you mean
@@GodzillaJawz eve is venus for ksp
@@gmthriver2297 oh I thought you said is the Dres one the one on eve like if Dre’s was the moon of eve
I love this video. I could probably watch another hundred just like it on KSP lore.
Bro got the What-If Style no-commentary 2016 editing thumbs 👍👍 👌
I gotta be real pimp I don’t think Duna is tectonically dead. Ike has to be pumping out some pretty powerful tidal heating effects given how large it is as compared to Duna, and that atmospheric pressure and temperature at the equator is well high enough to sustain exposed liquid water. Plus those bigass ice caps a good chunk above the freezing point of co2
This video just feels right. The subtle background music along with the displayed info at the bottom of the screen were nice features. It almost seems like a NatGeo documentary or something. I look forward to more of these videos! 👍
my most insane theory I could come up with, Duna was a kerbin-like planet in another solar system, A few million years ago, Kerbol formed, the other solar system system passed by Kerbol, causing chaos to unleash, During this chaos, Duna was stolen by Kerbol, along with Dres, Eeloo, and the binary system of Val and Minmus, Val and Minmus were separated by Jool, one being brought in because of Tylo's gravity, and one being ejected and eventually influenced by the Mun's gravity, One day, a moon of Jool was ejected, it was the size of Moho, This moon crashed into duna's surface, wiping all life from it, The debris from that became 2 moons, Ike, and Gilly, Gilly was under the influence of Ike's gravity, so it was flung out, passing Kerbin and The Mun on its way, being captured into Eve's orbit.
vall and minmus once being in a binary system then seperated by jool is a cool idea, but i think gilly is just most likely just a captured asteroid
@@Joshs4stro yeah, gilly is just a captured asteroid, just look at its orbit...
@@randomtexanguy9563thats fair, but even then, the closest we have to an asteroid belt is dres, and thats classified as a dwarf/minor planet
@@Messier42-handle -dres is a planet!!!!!!! the KAS is WRONG- what about all the asteroids around kerbin's orbit? does that not count as an asteroid belt? there is always asteroids scattered in the area around kerbin's orbit, and some of them get captured and are flung by kerbin to -be despawned- never be seen again as the Tracking Station is unable to reach them and thus no longer be able to track them
the SENTINEL telescope can also find asteroids near a planet's orbit, and I think Eve should be no different
@@randomtexanguy9563 there are asteroids around kerbin? i wasnt aware of that
Well done, one of your random video seems to have gone well with the algorithm.
Imo most of the small planets that orbit biggers ones could have possibly been asteroids from the asteroid belt that hit each other, wondered for ages before being captured by bigger planets (i.e. gilly, possiblt minmus, Ike and most of Jool's satellites)
MY CRAZED THEORY:
Ike could have been very volcanically active, with a moon-wide lava ocean covering any impact craters, only recently cooling down enough. Maybe because it was once too close to Duna and was being heated up by the gravitational forces, meaning it could have been formed outside of Duna and was later captured by Duna in a close pass of it. Possibly from the Dres system as both have a similar smooth surface with light and dark grey spots. Ike could have been formed by a collision between Dres and a now long gone planet with the remnants of that collision being in the Drestroid belt.
So the timeline goes like this: Dres and the mysterious planet collide. Ike is created in the blobs of molten debris and is flung out of the Dres system leaving the Drestroid belt behind. Ike makes multiple close passes of Duna before finally capturing, giving Duna a slightly eccentric orbit and Ike a very toasty volcanic surface. Ike is pushed out to a relatively higher orbit of Duna and as the surface cools down no impact crators from before the capture remain.
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The planetary collision also gave Dres its highly inclined and eccentric orbit.
I agree with the lava ocean part, but honestly the rest kind of escapes me. I'm kind of used to actual planet formation theories though so I guess I'm used to searching for the simplest explanation possible.
@@AstroChara My original logic was Dres and Ike look similar lol.
Dres also isnt an asteroid and is a planet, as it has cleared its orbit as theres no asteroids between Jool and Duna, with the only asteroid belt in the game between Kerbin and Duna. Making it's eccentric and inclined orbit rather unusual, which could be explained by either interference from Jool or it being hit with enough force to change it's orbit significantly.
@@Joshs4stro I do think it’s less of that Dres cleared its orbit or not, and more of how the asteroid belt was simply omitted because there’s not much use to it gameplay-wise when the asteroids are already supplied by the near-Kerbin asteroids. Its orbit also seems normal enough for me, with the eccentricity being higher than Ceres or Vesta, but still lower than, Pallas, and inclination being smaller than any of the three objects I mentioned earlier.
@@AstroChara but compared to the other planets in the game (except moho and eeloo, who hasn’t cleared its orbit making it a dwarf planet) its orbit is very different, and there are no objects or asteroids between jool and duna making it by definition a planet (because it’s round and has cleared its orbit) the planetary collision would explain ike, dres’s highly unusual orbit, the dres ring/ drestroid belt.
but ike could also very well just be a captured asteroid from the belt between kerbin and duna, and dres’s orbit was influenced by jool or some other object.
or even dres was once a moon of jool and was slung out by tylo or laythe
or dres was also an asteroid in the belt between kerbin and duna and got a gravity assist from kerbin or duna
What is a Dres?
Next video you should do next: Theory of Laythe(idk how to write this) and theory of bop
Damn this reminds me of old school youtube videos that I miss.
Me wondering why he has Only 14 subs (this was great)
What music did you use? It's pretty appropriate for Duna. I might like to incorporate it into my Soundtrack Editor playlists.
4:54 Geostationry sats are possible
I never managed to get to dune, I keep messing up my transfer windows for duna, probably should get a mod for transfer windows
Nice
What about the SSTV signal though?
Doesn’t duna have 0.2 Atms of pressure asl?
This video gives me major 2011 vibes back when 70% of all TH-cam videos had no talking and was just text.
I imagine where did Squad take inspiration for creating Duna and all of it's lore.
Likely from Mars and it’s two moons
Ike might've been formed along with Duna, being a Binary Planet, or it could've formed via a massive impact with Duna and another planet in the early days of the Kerbolar System.
Very nicely made video! What music did you use?
It's a composition of my own, I might release the music sometime in the future.
@@thenotsogood_gamer Please do! It's terrific writing inspiration music and I've got a bunch of friends that'd LOVE it!
Possible a planetary collision between duna and some other body formed ike.
I think it would have looked more like Laythe with less time for life to develop and with the large size of the ice caps compared ti mars
Wow. I really like your take on this :)
This video Is just so like inmersive and interesting good job dude also have un mind the theory of kerbals coming from Eve AND that space creature dead in one moon
he’s doing the ingame science irl
this is really cool!
i think its possible that dres and ike have shared past like maybe dres was a smaller moon that was ejected by ike
Duna is Mars, and like Mars, it's moon (Mars actually has 2 moons) is supposed to be a captured object, just like Phobos and Deimos are thought to be captured objects. Deimos (the one they are almost certain is a captured object) also orbits ALMOST in a synchronous orbit.
Also, nitpicky moment: Geo = Earth. You can't have a Geostationary orbit in KSP as they aren't around Earth. They are synchronous orbits or "Keostationary" for Kerbin specifically, which I guess would make Duna's a "Duostationary" orbit.
Ike is far to big to be captured by duna
@@unownyoutuber9049 Ike probably formed the same way Charon (Pluto's largest "moon" [It's really just a binary system with circumbinary moons]) did.
even though i have more subs, this is a masterpiece i endure.
The music is a little much in the ol’ headphones but great video
This is basically the theory of Mars now
you mean to tell me the ksp equivalent of mars had exactly the same part as irl mars ? crazy
but good video I guess, though if I may, the music quickly got on my nerves, but that may be just me idk
Strange how thats works, eh?
This is literally just what scientists think happend to mars
3:33 is that subnautica? the water looks like the water in subnautica
Nope, just Kerbal So Program with mods.
this feels straight out of 2016 bruh
i wonder why he did mention the duna pryamid
Mod list? (Not visual)
epic theory
Wait wait. There's a SSTV Signal on a hill on Duna. Try decoding it.
Did noone stop to think that mybe ike is being ripped apart?
Conclusion: Duna Is Mars
NO WAY!!!!
mars 2.0
literal that is mars
Duna is literally just Mars
so it's just Mars with a few extra steps
the exact same theory of mars
This is basically what happened to mars bro
well Duna is basically just a Mars analog for KSP. so i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the info in this video is based around Mars
@@skyrocks12 Duna isn't just an analogue for Mars, it basically is Mars. It has all the same features, including a captured moon in a synchronous orbit.
@@bipolarminddroppings "something that is similar or comparable to something else either in general or in some specific detail"
that's what it means to be an analog