NightFlyyer's 9 R/C Helicopter Tips and Rules of Thumb.
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- I wrote these back in 1980, before there were Cheater radios with power steering electronics. There were no PCs, Iphones, gyros, and we only 5 channel 72 MHZ radios. There were no electrics and so we had to know how to run and keep nitro engines running too. These tips were published in the magazines, as back then heli flying was hard without gyros and I learned to hover inverted without one, but was taught by John Simone Jr, the National Helicopter champion, so that really helped. Due to the tremendous amount of requests for my 9 Helicopter Flying tips and rules of thumb, I decided to present them this way.
*1. Never EVER let your friends fly YOUR models! It is always better to GET AN INSTRUCTOR for those first flights! They can tell if problems are you or the heli! Beginners can't tell! This is your best chance to not damage your heli. Most hobby stores know of clubs, so dont be afraid to ask for help.
#2. NEVER ever watch the tail rotor! Only watch the nose.
#3. DO not attempt nose in yet, (no matter what your friends EGG you on to do) . And DON'T let people watch you when you're learning.
They cause more crashes, because they always "egg" you on and you feel pressured to fly for them.
You see 4 of the controls are BACKWARDS in nose in. It will come naturally later on, so don't worry about it now.
#4. Never fly AWAY until you can hover, cause you will never get it back without crashing.
Those First landings are always expensive if you're IMPATIENT and you decide to fly away anyway!
#5. Always practice hovering at eye level. Lower is more difficult in ground effect.
#6. Get used to Pinching the left and most important stick (3 controls) with index finger and thumb. To be good at 3d, you cant let that thumb escape for a second, as any pro will tell you. It will pay off later, especially if you fly with gloves on, like we do in the Midwest..
37. Never CHOP the throttle stick off. It must go down GENTLY or the blades will hit the tail boom, when the skids slam down on the ground and the blades keep going down.
#8. Remember what your last move was when flying, so when you get lost, just keep going through the motions (pretending to see it, till you see it again)
#9. ONLY fly as far away as you can comfortably see your heli and no more.
Remember, "He who dares nothing, needs not expect anything".
So "If you continue to do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten!"
Thanks for subscribing and watching. Most of this is simply logic and common sense.
Dave Herbert
AMA # L=8221 LM/CD/Scientific
Thank you, Air Boss! You're really a great help for the struggling RC pilots with these videos. 5*!
Thanks Dave, I started watching your videos before I bought my coaxial heli 6 months ago. Whenever I get a little frustrated I watch some videos and get a bit educated and motivated to keep trying. I've since upgraded my coaxial with xtreme motors and extended shaft to fly outside. I'm looking forward to moving up to a fixed pitch soon, please keep the video coming, I think I'll need a whole lot of motivation to get there. THANK YOU so much for your time and effort, you are an inspiration!!!
Wow I remember watching this video almost 4 years now. Listen to this man I watched all his videos and he helped me out tremendously. I am now employed as a UAV saftey pilot and fly and build different types of aircraft. Thanks Dave I can't even imagine trying to learn without your guidance. In the end it all comes down to practice and research. Do your homework and never give up.
Thanks a lot Mr. Dave or as we say here in Venezuela, "MUCHAS GRACIAS" I just bought a walkera 5-4q3 airwolf for me and a e-sky co-comanche for my 12 y.o. son. We are newbies on this and we are watching your videos and reading this 9 tips trying to avoid as many crashes as we can. Today in the comanche first flight we broke two rotor blades against a wall, but, it came with replacement and tomorrow we'll try again. Thanks again for all your knowledge and sharing of wisdom with us the RC-DUMMIES!
For me as a newbie, learn how the helicopter works. The theory lessons are priceless considering time and energy for repair. The good news is once i learned how to work on my bird i think i grew another feather and flew a bit better. NF's videos are generous info and i thank you for taking time to share your knowledge.
I find what works for me is to always watch the part of the heli that is furthest from me whether it be the nose or the tail. That part will always go in the direction the stick is moved in. Forward and back control I find quite easy even when the heli is nose in.
I find your videos very inspiring!
I'm the happy new owner of a Blade CX 2, and really appreciate you sharing your tips, and yes I have already seen myself in more than one of them. I am still trying to get a good trim for a stationary hover, but I have discovered that patience is the key.
Hi Dave! Been learning to fly on my 44 year old Helibaby, having alot of fun, added pool noodles, many thanks! Can see it now! Inspiring videos, keep up the great videos
Right on. Glad to hear that. Thanks so kindly and happy flying.
i fly a 4 channel fixed pitch 400 size rc heli and have just purchased a 6 channel ccpm single rotor rc heli, i am self taught, it has taken me a few years and alot of spare parts but i am very good now, i have flown 6 channel ccpm rc helis before and i have also used flight simualtors to aid me in flying better, great video, cheers.
p.s i am self taught and have never attended a lesson
i fly airplanes, but just by watching this vid makes me want to go out and get into helis. Great tips Dave, keep up the good work.
After 20 yeas I am coming back into the hobby. Thank for your videos and advice.
you are a great communicator and practical
Teacher
Thank
Another great video Dave! Thanks for all you do for new RC heli pilots like myself. Great job!!
Thank you Dave so much!! your tips helped me save a lot of rotor blades!! And helped me starting out to pick good starting models. I have been flying for well over a year and a half now with good sucsess thanks to you and your tips!!! I say to all LISTEN AND LEARN! You will learn too!!
Thanks Eric D.
he is 100% correct on using a simulator, a major gigantic huge money saver!
I learned on the original DOS based 'Dave Brown' RC sim... not pretty to look at and the physics weren't exactly very high resolution, but I crashed $20,000 worth of choppers learning on this simulator just getting used to the control reversal of nose-in flight. Without sims, I doubt many could learn and become proficient without already being a millionaire or having rich and very generous parents.
"If you continue to do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten!" ....
THIS IS YOUR BEST TIP EVER!!!
This video helped me more than any other videos on youtube. Thanks Dave Herbert! I learned my lesson.
You are doing some great stuff here and I want to thank you! It is all very informative and educational. I own a Nexus 30, stop flying it about 8-10 years ago (not exactly sure). I had some major family issues come up and I had to put it aside. Now it's an antique to me, never to be flown again. Too bad, I really liked that heli. I am now looking to get into RC Heli again and these electrics are impressive. You channel has help get me re-educated and I hope to be doing hover practicing soon.
Thanks a lot mr. herbert! Those tips are very very helpful, especially since i am planning to start 4 ch heli these next few months. Thank again a bunch, very nice and information -filled video, great video as usual! Thanks!
The comment about new pilots feeling like they are experts already because they are good at video games is so true. I myself thought i would catch on quickly but was proved very wrong and oh how my knees still shake as I learn! hehe
dear night flyer, This video has extremely helped me in achieving flight with my 6 channel helicopters. I watched this video 3 months ago. I can now fly with out crashing. even in wind. Practicing on a RF 7 simulator to attempt flight in stunt mode soon. Thanks for you'r videos. I have learned alot.
Great tips I saved this one as a favorites. Most of my crashes were from your "do nots"
Great vid as always Dave, it's always good to be reminded of the basics. Keep up the great work.
I am new to this and have found your videos to a terrific help. Your manner is easy going and easy to follow. Many thanks Dave
THX. Mr. Nightfyyer for our help
very good reminder how things are done right, you practice this well and it the moves become natural and you won't have to think about it anymore, like driving a car LOL thx Dave, 5 stars for sure !
awesome dave yet again another awesome video these same tips helped me begin learning to fly even though id still say im a beginner but even the pro's are still learning the day you stop learning is the day you become obsolete
I got your 9 tips by pm a few months ago and appreciated them greatly, posting this vid is a great ideam hopefully folks will find it and cut down on some of your pm's lol 5* as always
I use to fly a 30, the stuff today is like magic compared to 80-90's model airplane news days.
Thanks great vid, rule #1 is the same for motorcycles that was an honest start. Took 8 hrs on bol to get things intuitive. A good trick for some is to visualize themselves in the cockpit when orienting.
Great Tips! I'm glad you decided to publish them via this video. 5*!
hey Dave!
Great video! im a new pilot bought a MJX F45 and your tips really help me out as a starter!
you just got a new subscription!
tnx.!
NightFlyyer, Another Great Video, You Have helped me out with my Heli flying with your Video's and advice, I started with a MCX and now I'm building my 450 Pro, Guys like you are like Diamonds, Keep em coming. = no reply needed=
Thanks for all your great videos
from a fan from Germany
You are the best on youtube
Dave top-man very good words of wisdom. have fun now.
thx for putting up the tips they help alot i am getting better with flying the helis but still have a lot of learning to do ...thx again
Thanks for taking time to make this helpful video. I really got a lot out of it
You are the man Mr. Herbert!!!!
Great tips Dave! They worked real nice!
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~DLPlanes
Great rules to learn by. Another great video. Thanks.
awesome tips, these will definately help me on my way to learning
Thanks again Mr Herbert.
Thanks kindly!
Jumped in on this thread! Nightflyer, your vid's have beeen an inspiration in my personal learning process, I thank you! If you are ever in the UK, please PM me, I'd love to take you to our local shop, and maybe to our field for some flying! Regards, Damian.
Dave, if you didn't know, the new Phoenix RC 2.5 Simulator is very good. I think it is more focused on helis more than planes and it also has many Horizon Hobby products. For example, it has the Blade 400, Parkzone Corsair, MSR, 4-Site, MCX, CX2 and tons more. You should try it. I love mine and looks and feels very realistic. It also costs much less than Realflight. I've went from getting it on Christmas and now I can hover and fly helis in forward flight with proper turning. I can prop-hang too
As always Dave a pleasure watching you video's as most of us will always learn something ;-) even the ones who think they know it all and will never admit to it lol,great job mate = 5*
Still all true and excellent! Thanks Dave
Thanks so kindly!
You are an inspiration! Thanks for all the vids. Happy holidays!!
You're welcome, from the tips of my fingers.
You the man!
Great Tips for the beginner Dave Thx!
awesome tips, will definately keep them in mind.
If only I had seen this video two days ago, I might not be going back to the LHS for the third time tomorrow! Even after the guy at the LHS begged....and I mean literally begged me not to purchase the Blade SR as my first heli, I did it anyway! You name it, I've mangled it....BIG TIME! Anywho, going back tomorrow for more parts and to get the smaller SMR or whatever the little Blade version is. Gonna fix my SR up and park it. Starting where I should've started at in the beginning. Thanks.
Thanks Dave, as always, great vid. great tips.
Thank you for your much needed advice im new to the collective pitch helicopter and need all the help I can get
I know it is an old video, I hope you are all caught up on your messages :o) I learned and still fly on a Nexus 30 back in the early 90s. The only club in the area at the time (Bay City RC club) was a bunch or retirees and they hated helicopters, they called it an egg beater, it was all in good fun. I had to teach myself how to fly, I did it with a book, I wish I could remember the title/author, but I just took it slow and practiced and practiced and practiced hovering until I could do it in my sleep from every angle and I only had one boom strike. Great advice and thanks for sharing.
i felt like crying. thanks for thanking us.
Great advice Dave!
You are an "original" heli flyer. Zero gyro, custom parts,...etc. You stuck with it. I'm curious what you think of the "latest greatest" with the industry forcing newbies to start with DFC and FBL systems? I still fly with FLYBAR and I don't see any "next level" improvement or "locked-in feeling" potential in everything I've read and heard from my heli-buddies at the field. Just see a lot of money wasted(everyone keeps revolving 3G > BeastX...etc. I feel sorry for the beginners who "don't read the manual or internet research" which is about 90% of them. Result. Crash. Also, feel sorry for the experience pilots on the field losing "fun/flying" time doing set up for weeks. However, I "do appreciate" all my FBL buddies giving me their old rotor head flybars parts!!!
Thanks for the tips Dave, I've been flying coaxel's for about 3 weeks and just purchased a Blade 120SR. Got it trimmed finally and flew out the whole battery charge, mostly in hover. Kinda feels like I took my first step in single blade fixed pitch. (solo). My dream is to advance to collective pitch.. I am 61 years old and hope I have the reflexes to do so. .
I spent ages trying to pinch as I took your experience and words for Gold.
Then I found SmaktalkRC, Bert and Tariq and went back to thumbs. Pinching was really holding me back. Feels so much more natural but you got me on the gloves. I had to cut holes in my thumbs :)
Otherwise, I dig your vids, loads of inspiration, cheers
I think you should link some Hard 3D with thumbs just in case your avid noobs are killing themselves and their fun by sticking with the pinch of doom.
hi dave it's so thrue what you are tell in the vid ,in the last year i have learn my self to fly with planes and heli's no lessons and maybe 6 times on the sim ph4 now i am in the stadium to make nice backflips and loops stallturns with 7,5 piro i have done mounths ago ,i do it step by step praktice till i am comfort with the moves i make and then go further ................. all what you have tell in the video is so thrue so all i can say is keep up the the tips ...... kind regards gb
ow last word i have started with a trex 450 now i fly 500 and 600 flb ,bigger is more stable and mutch easer to fly........ but alway's keep in mind that they are dangerous ;-)
I am the 4%. Like if you are the part of the 4% as well. Thanks for the great videos/tutorials Dave!
That pic with you on skates is PIMP!
Thank you for the tips. I'm giving rc helicopters another try. ...starting with 3-channel, 4-channel is on the way.
LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDS
Dave for President!!!
Good video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this video! have a great day you to!
very useful video dave!
thanks
I learned to fly heli without a club or instructor just my heli and sim! ; P
Dave, don't be too humbled lol, great vid's. my 400 10+ crashes hehe , got 2 more bigger. 1 is ready " not flown yet " soon, even bigger a work in progress. and still fly my little Blade CX co-axle lol
Talk about no gyro, first rc aero we flew was s c &a clockwork servo!hope this makes you chuckle.ps. good vid i think i'll subscribe.Mike..
Just to put it out there, next cool thing for R/C would be force feedback in the controller.
nice to know that i have some support out there, thanks! please reply in your own time or not at all, thats cool.
Thank you for this video i am still trying after more than a year so bought a e-flite blade m sr and it works with my dx6i controler so i can try indoors in this rotton winter and if it crashes it just bounces! so hope to be better with my blade 400 in the spring no need for reply as see you are a busy man so thanks once again....Jim
Many thanks, much appreciated, thank you
Great video, thanks very much for these tips :-)
as always - great stuff, Dave!
Sempi Fi sir. just a fellow marine in the beginner stage of cp heli's
i like the volkswagon comparison ,
i was just saying to myself the other day-
a mercades wont make you a better driver.
I got lucky and had the cp pro as my first helicopter..boy I remember that sad first flight.. it went crazy and must of blew in a hundred pieces. found out later I was the crazy one
I can understand that for sure. I always tell folks to learn on a vw, then when you stop crashing, then get the Porsche. It takes lots of practice and a good simulator will help a lot. Check this out, maybe it will help. th-cam.com/video/hBnxyZiy6X8/w-d-xo.html
another great vid man
thank you.
thanks again dave, good vid mate
heyyy Mr Wilson... look alike, had to subscribe agen cause im back into heli
you have the best vids
I got my Blade400 used with that metal head from 6:15 installed. What's the name of it? I'd like to see an exploded view if one exists!
this is a big THANK YOU THANK YOU
i have bin looking for that kinde of info, THX so much.. my self im a noob trying to fly a blade msr, and ist going okey for now. :-)
Hi Dave!! I am a bit late on getting your vid, but it has not being till this year that i got interested on flying helis. I got one for Xms 2 yrs ago and this year I began to practice on it. thanks for your vid. I press the link to subscribe I hope I did. Thanks for the info..
the guy from "xhelicopter" ddi a video on the falcon 40. now he said to chop the throttle if your gonna crash. you said to never chop the throttle. does what you said apply to what he said? or are these completely diferent circemstances? please reply... -zac
You have 2 Chinook r/c on your table.Could you please tell me where you bought the bigger one which is like the smaller?(if it is from x-heli please send the link by answering my comment) Thank's a lot. (sorry for my bad English)
@ 4:35 you have a picture of you hovering what looks like a blueray ..
While wearing gloves ..
With the note about pinch meathod being required while wearing gloves.
Perhaps it is just the way the shadows are falling .. but it sure does look to me like your thumb is the only thing on your cyclic stick in the pic ..
Fantastic !!
Hi David,
Well you put the bug in me, so I had to go out and get me a Heli. I got a Blade CX3 , came with a E-flite 2S 7.4V 800mAh [6Wh] LiPo 10C 2S Battery.
How much more battery is safe to use in this heli? What is the rule?
question, Iv beel flying on my simulater a lot and when flying flybarless hellies they tip over on the ground even when im doing nothing! this happend to a liitle blade 130x iv got and i stripped a gear. I figured its my fault somehow but I cannot get it to stop. I'm not touching the sticks or anything just raising the collective. How to stop this?
Some simulators so not simulate the real thing. Aerofly RC 8 does, meaning it puts drag on the landing skids, like real flying. Helis like to slide and if you do not immediately compensate, it can tip. If I am in tall grass, I punch it up pretty quick and that is what you may need to do. Get it up and right out of ground effect. If it is not that, I suspect a faulty gyro or improper setup. Check your cyclic and make sure they are moving. Always allow the gyro to set for 10 seconds after setting it down. Flybarless helis need time to align. Have you seen this? It may interest you. Thanks. th-cam.com/video/fu-v27iTygg/w-d-xo.html
@@NightFlyyer Great Thank you! I have really been enjoying your videos!
thanks thanks thanks thanks i lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve yours
Do you have to be able to hover side in before you can fly around? Or is it ok if you fly around if you can do tail in hover?
One of these tips is questionable, at best... another has been affected by time.
1. To suggest pinching the left stick while thumbing the right seems like bad advice to me. The pilot is generally going to favor one method over the other, but will typically stay symmetrical with respect to the left and right sticks.
2. Hands-down, Phoenix has taken over as THE heli simulator. End of story.
where did you get that helicopter because im looking for a new one
Could you set that roules on description
awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you think there should be an E.T spaceship quadcopter?
Dave is that free FMS RC simulator safe to use, it has the name FMS2LPHA85.EXE, remember your warning video you made on the FMS virus, it had the same name. Only this file I downloaded straight from the FMS site not Aerofly.. please give me a reply..