Lapis by itself actually just means stone in Latin. Without the lazuli being part of it I think it makes sense for her not to be blue, even with our common association to it. I think it just meaning stone relates to her character too, not being a precious gem. Her insecurities of being a commoner among nobility.
13:54 Mika Pikazo, the character designer for engage, did officially state she made framme and clanne red/green because they’re iconic colors in the series, probably meaning the cain/abel archetype
Mauvier's Gradlon name fits but he's originally from Firene aaand based on his anglicized name- there is a fashion called Mauvais based out of Montreal and their entire mission is about evoking imperfections of humans and that its ok to be imperfect.
Another quick data: Rosado does mean pink in Spanish, but mostly pink in a masculine matter, we usually say "rosa" but when it's "rosado" it's usually referring to a masculine pink object/person
So Lythos have those basically named after the heavens. With it Fierene's french fashion companies, Brodia's rocks, Elusia's plants, amd Solm's italian desserts. Spectacular.
18:20 I believe Zelestia is actually based on the plant echeveria agavoides celestia which has the exact same form and colour as the flowers around Zelestia's horns.
I had picked up on several of the themes, but not all of them. I do commend them for the effort in giving the depth and foreshadowing of many, and also finding a way to reason Anna’s name into the game. Haha. And no. I didn’t know about Panette/Pandreo until you mentioned it in one of your streams. I used Pandreo as a vital member of my army in my first playthrough and I’m planning to use Panette in my second. It’d be interesting to see their supports.
also worth nothing that griss' japanese name "guri" could be simply referring to "gurin", or green, considering it's heavily featured in his design, as well as all the dragon names in japanese ending with "ru" possibly because of "ryu" meaning dragon?
As a french native, it's not my first ride on a Japanese game that references french things there and then .... but Engage is truly on another level haha Of course, I had noticed most of it before watching this video but admittedly didn't give it as much thought so it was interesting to watch nevertheless. THAT BEING SAID, I'm slightly skeptical at the whole "Firenese people are named after fashion brands"... it feels very .. cheap... like all those names are real and existed as such before brands, I'm sure there are countless important people of renown that bear these names and given that they seem to want to look for poetic, deep-ish meanings behind the names they pick... I'm just a bit surprised that the Firenese would be glorified product placements (or hommages if I'm being nice).
Perhaps there are specific figures, but I feel like getting the entire bunch together would be a stretch. Is there really a famous historical Chloé? Maybe, but I guess I'd have to look into it. I do know it does seem Alfred was also named after Alfred the Great, considering his ailments
13:59 Framme could also have ties to the fruit raspberry, which is starts with fram in various languages. Dutch: Framboos French: Framboise Spanish: Frambuesa
Great video, and great editing. I see you're very careful about quoting your sources in the description, which is uncommon among content creators and it's admirable. As an Italian, I immediately noticed that Solm characters were references to our desserts, and it was really funny haha. I made a post about them on Twitter in February which went viral, but I can't tell if the Wiki added that info later or not - probably just for Bunet and Seadall, but I don't really care either way. Just a minor correction: Panettone isn't a pudding, but a type of bread generally eaten around Christmas. It can be served with ice cream on top, but it's not that common and it is indeed just soft bread. Thank you for listening and keep up the great work
I caught a lot of these and looked up the ones I didn't catch. I didn't know about the connection of colors with the names of the four hounds. I should also point out that Mauvier has a very french sounding name, and was not surprised when he reveals in a support conversation that he was from Firene. I keep wanting to pronounce his name as "Mo-vee-eh"
Thank you for watching! I found it super interesting to think about since so many were clearly thought out and precisely chosen. Made me want to find the reasoning for the others
Well, for what it's worth, 'as a french native', "Mo-vee-eh" is the way it should be pronounced if we follow usual french phonetic patterns. So yeah, I say it like that and I twitch a bit every time I hear the final "r" pronounced.
Great video. I really enjoyed this one. One thing to note, Vander, Evander origin could also mean strong man or warrior, which with a beard like that fits well. On a serious note, just his opening speech about fighting the corrupted in chapter 1 shows he is a warrior at heart.
Great video like usual. And looking forward to watching your stream later tonight. Also I'm already halfway through on sixth playthrough of Engage. And I beat the Fell Xenologue before doing the Bracelet maps which did make them a little tougher, but not a lot thankfully. Although I was only did this due ot being curious of how hard they became if you beat that first.
Fun fact: "Lumera", in Italian indicates the fuse of a candle, the one that catches fire and emits light. In an Italian dialect the "lumera" is a vulgar woman compared to the fuse of a candle, the "lumera" in fact, which "lights up". A hooker in other words
The naming scheme from Brodia sounds pretty familiar to Steven Universe fans... ...and yes, the the game's titular Engage mechanic does remind me of Gem fusions from Steven Universe, since it involves merging with allies through emotional bonding and connection.
Merrin a double derivation, or is this just coincidence? Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" fantasy series has a main supporting character called Perrin (male, but so what) known for associating with wolves.
I would also like to add to this wonderful video that "Alear" is, also, a Spanish word. It means "to alloy", or basically to merge two metals together to form another one. Considering the background of Alear, that being the character is the merging of Divine and Fell dragons, I would say that it fits quite well.
Another - coincidence? On learning from their support convo that Ivy and Hortensia were but half-sisters, I was reminded of a real-life king H- with two daughters by different mothers, the elder having a short name -y, and the younger a much longer one of four syllables. Henry VIII of England and his daughters, Mary and Elizabeth Tudor. Most of us have little idea what the first was like as a person, knowing only that she was a pious Catholic whose reign was marked by the deadly persecution of protestants (in a reversal of her father's politics); the latter often portrayed as a petite, intriguing (in both senses) woman in wide skirts.
I thought people DID live in Lythos but we just don't see any villages or towns. In their reference cards and supports, the twins Clanne and Framme all speak as if they were born on Lythos and grew up to worship the Divine Dragon.
Also about Framme and Clanne, I had assumed their names come from japanese pronounciations of "Family" and "Clan", just slightly altered much like the Solm characters. The fact they're the first people you see and talk to when you wake up from a 1000 years sleep could hint at this, too
I was playing this on livestream when the game came out originally and whenever Louis came up my friend kept joking that it was Louis Vuitton, crazy to see that yes that was actually the basis lol
not refrence the game tries to make but splitiing up vander's name to van der makes it in dutch from the van der is only used for last names here and with an added word so you get last names like van der zand (from the zand)
I dunno if they still make and sell them, but I know for a fact that Nordstrom (their restaurant within most stores, that is) had the pudding bread thing that Panette's name is based on. It's really good.
Some German additions: Diamant and Saphir are the German words for Diamond and Saphire "Madeline" has a weak German connection. Our name for girl is "Mädchen", and in some dialect it comes down to "Mädl", or even "Mädlein" - the latter spoken like, well, "Madeline". However, this is such an antique and regional term, used only by the elderly today, that it's a very very far out stretch. Then again, you found that very far out connection, so... all's possible. Also, Calney, or especially Carney, *might* be a reference to Carneol. A reddish gemstone.
Fun fact : Rosado's name means "pink" in spanish AND is a derivative of "rosa" or "rose", when you translate "rose" in french it doesn't change, but if you translate "pink" in french you get... "rose" !
when i first played the game i was confused since the whole game is spoken in english but they wrote and pronounced diamant in german, especially since other names like lapis or citrinne or alcryst sound like they are pronounced in english and and aside from jade which is a real name are mutation of gemstone not simply a stonename from another language.
Might be a stretch but the smithing shopkeep could be a play on chalcedony. Also Mauvier probably isnt his real name either considering he's firinese so he could have a name like marc or moschino or whatever
Looks like Nintendo is following the theme naming conventions from other video game series, particularly the company's golden boy and mascot, Mario. You know, Mario has specific themes on their levels, such as Donut Plains in Super Mario World that uses food names or Acorn Plains in New Super Mario Bros U that uses plant motifs.
I always thought that Seadall was just a lame pun, but the double meaning with the food makes it cool Also, supposedly the Lythos characters are partly named after wines, which explains the one shopkeeper
Lapis by itself actually just means stone in Latin. Without the lazuli being part of it I think it makes sense for her not to be blue, even with our common association to it. I think it just meaning stone relates to her character too, not being a precious gem. Her insecurities of being a commoner among nobility.
Awesome insight, thank you!
13:54 Mika Pikazo, the character designer for engage, did officially state she made framme and clanne red/green because they’re iconic colors in the series, probably meaning the cain/abel archetype
Kagetsu's homeland is actually called "the pale sands" and is situated in solm. You can even see it on the map
Mauvier's Gradlon name fits but he's originally from Firene aaand based on his anglicized name- there is a fashion called Mauvais based out of Montreal and their entire mission is about evoking imperfections of humans and that its ok to be imperfect.
Ok now that's interesting!
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Calney might be a reference to calcite, which would put her in the Brodian naming team!
That would make sense! Should have explored more with the root of her name.
Calney could also be a bit of an alternate form of nikela which means nickel in Basque. And nickel is a metal as well
I'm just happy we've got names for the shopkeepers.
It could also be a shortened version of Chalcedony.
Fire Emblem Writing Team: So, gang… what should we call these fine young characters?
Some guy: Drip. It’s the only way…
New DLC character: Suprem
@@lucky_crit lol
Another quick data: Rosado does mean pink in Spanish, but mostly pink in a masculine matter, we usually say "rosa" but when it's "rosado" it's usually referring to a masculine pink object/person
I think it's more accurate to say Rosado means "Rosed", specifically as an adjective for a masculine noun. Right?
@@niedude You're right, it's an adjective. Means either pinkish or rosy
So Lythos have those basically named after the heavens. With it Fierene's french fashion companies, Brodia's rocks, Elusia's plants, amd Solm's italian desserts. Spectacular.
8:05 Hortensia’s name can also be derived from Hortense, which in itself comes from the Latin word Hortus, which means Garden.
Another thing to note with jade is that it's the toughest known gemstone - fitting for the name of an Armored unit.
And the one known as the Iron Wall!
Fancy clothes, gems, desserts, flowers and colour themes. Sounds like someones getting ready for a wedding...
cuz they engaged
@@omarixio1lol you didn't have to say that. 😂😂
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18:20 I believe Zelestia is actually based on the plant echeveria agavoides celestia which has the exact same form and colour as the flowers around Zelestia's horns.
I was fabblegasted when I saw Yunaka's real name being the national stone from my country. Never expected that from IS
Fierne was the one I had no idea aboot. I just assumed their name theme was "Aggressively French".
I had picked up on several of the themes, but not all of them. I do commend them for the effort in giving the depth and foreshadowing of many, and also finding a way to reason Anna’s name into the game. Haha.
And no. I didn’t know about Panette/Pandreo until you mentioned it in one of your streams. I used Pandreo as a vital member of my army in my first playthrough and I’m planning to use Panette in my second. It’d be interesting to see their supports.
Bonus fact: Sapphir's English VA also goes by "Sapphire".
Nice voice actor pick for Nintendo of America and Cup of Tea Productions.
also worth nothing that griss' japanese name "guri" could be simply referring to "gurin", or green, considering it's heavily featured in his design, as well as all the dragon names in japanese ending with "ru" possibly because of "ryu" meaning dragon?
When you said Seforia, there is also a pastry named after the dough you were talking about called Sfogliatelle
I visited Mont Saint Michel this year and yeah it’s pretty. As french person I’m glad my country gives inspiration. 🇫🇷
as a fun fact citrine is generally considered a stone of wealth and abundance, and very used in money magick so they were pretty accurate there
I always thought Vander's name referred to "Vanguard"
As a french native, it's not my first ride on a Japanese game that references french things there and then .... but Engage is truly on another level haha
Of course, I had noticed most of it before watching this video but admittedly didn't give it as much thought so it was interesting to watch nevertheless. THAT BEING SAID, I'm slightly skeptical at the whole "Firenese people are named after fashion brands"... it feels very .. cheap... like all those names are real and existed as such before brands, I'm sure there are countless important people of renown that bear these names and given that they seem to want to look for poetic, deep-ish meanings behind the names they pick... I'm just a bit surprised that the Firenese would be glorified product placements (or hommages if I'm being nice).
Perhaps there are specific figures, but I feel like getting the entire bunch together would be a stretch. Is there really a famous historical Chloé? Maybe, but I guess I'd have to look into it. I do know it does seem Alfred was also named after Alfred the Great, considering his ailments
13:59
Framme could also have ties to the fruit raspberry, which is starts with fram in various languages.
Dutch: Framboos
French: Framboise
Spanish: Frambuesa
What if Clanne was a reference to cranberry?
Great video, and great editing. I see you're very careful about quoting your sources in the description, which is uncommon among content creators and it's admirable. As an Italian, I immediately noticed that Solm characters were references to our desserts, and it was really funny haha. I made a post about them on Twitter in February which went viral, but I can't tell if the Wiki added that info later or not - probably just for Bunet and Seadall, but I don't really care either way. Just a minor correction: Panettone isn't a pudding, but a type of bread generally eaten around Christmas. It can be served with ice cream on top, but it's not that common and it is indeed just soft bread. Thank you for listening and keep up the great work
I caught a lot of these and looked up the ones I didn't catch. I didn't know about the connection of colors with the names of the four hounds. I should also point out that Mauvier has a very french sounding name, and was not surprised when he reveals in a support conversation that he was from Firene. I keep wanting to pronounce his name as "Mo-vee-eh"
Thank you for watching! I found it super interesting to think about since so many were clearly thought out and precisely chosen. Made me want to find the reasoning for the others
I had the same thing with Mauvier as well. I pronounced Griss as “Gr-ee” too.
Well, for what it's worth, 'as a french native', "Mo-vee-eh" is the way it should be pronounced if we follow usual french phonetic patterns. So yeah, I say it like that and I twitch a bit every time I hear the final "r" pronounced.
In addition to Alear's name it is also a spanish word that means "alloy"
Great video. I really enjoyed this one. One thing to note, Vander, Evander origin could also mean strong man or warrior, which with a beard like that fits well. On a serious note, just his opening speech about fighting the corrupted in chapter 1 shows he is a warrior at heart.
Great video like usual. And looking forward to watching your stream later tonight. Also I'm already halfway through on sixth playthrough of Engage. And I beat the Fell Xenologue before doing the Bracelet maps which did make them a little tougher, but not a lot thankfully. Although I was only did this due ot being curious of how hard they became if you beat that first.
17:17 Sombron name could be based on Sombra which means Shadow in Spanish.
Awesome vid. Came out super clean and very informative!
Cheers, Chip! Thanks for all your help.
Fun fact:
"Lumera", in Italian indicates the fuse of a candle, the one that catches fire and emits light. In an Italian dialect the "lumera" is a vulgar woman compared to the fuse of a candle, the "lumera" in fact, which "lights up".
A hooker in other words
Thanks for that wild ride
The naming scheme from Brodia sounds pretty familiar to Steven Universe fans...
...and yes, the the game's titular Engage mechanic does remind me of Gem fusions from Steven Universe, since it involves merging with allies through emotional bonding and connection.
Merrin a double derivation, or is this just coincidence? Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" fantasy series has a main supporting character called Perrin (male, but so what) known for associating with wolves.
I would also like to add to this wonderful video that "Alear" is, also, a Spanish word. It means "to alloy", or basically to merge two metals together to form another one.
Considering the background of Alear, that being the character is the merging of Divine and Fell dragons, I would say that it fits quite well.
Love this vid!
Cheers mate! Thanks for watching!
Another - coincidence? On learning from their support convo that Ivy and Hortensia were but half-sisters, I was reminded of a real-life king H- with two daughters by different mothers, the elder having a short name -y, and the younger a much longer one of four syllables. Henry VIII of England and his daughters, Mary and Elizabeth Tudor. Most of us have little idea what the first was like as a person, knowing only that she was a pious Catholic whose reign was marked by the deadly persecution of protestants (in a reversal of her father's politics); the latter often portrayed as a petite, intriguing (in both senses) woman in wide skirts.
Wow, totally missed this thanks!
A "rafale" can also be a burst of wind, not artillery.
Don't know how more fittong it is, but he does have a kind of connection with winds.
I thought people DID live in Lythos but we just don't see any villages or towns. In their reference cards and supports, the twins Clanne and Framme all speak as if they were born on Lythos and grew up to worship the Divine Dragon.
Also about Framme and Clanne, I had assumed their names come from japanese pronounciations of "Family" and "Clan", just slightly altered much like the Solm characters. The fact they're the first people you see and talk to when you wake up from a 1000 years sleep could hint at this, too
Don't know if it was told but citrine is a gemstone associated with wealth and Citrinne is one of the wealthiest characters
I was playing this on livestream when the game came out originally and whenever Louis came up my friend kept joking that it was Louis Vuitton, crazy to see that yes that was actually the basis lol
Haha what a coincidence
Maybe Calney could reference Chalcedony
Very informative Video!! really like how country uses whole different motives
(tho was it really necessary the Morion joke :/ )
Haha just having a little giggle
not refrence the game tries to make but splitiing up vander's name to van der makes it in dutch from the
van der is only used for last names here and with an added word so you get last names like van der zand (from the zand)
Turns out that Mauvier is from Firene, Gregory is from Elusia so Griss his counterpart is the same But I don't know the other two
When you find out that the four hounds have English names that are corruptions of their proper names while they command an army called the corrupted.
Good point!
I need that image of dripped out Louis framed.
I'll send you the pic 😂
I dunno if they still make and sell them, but I know for a fact that Nordstrom (their restaurant within most stores, that is) had the pudding bread thing that Panette's name is based on. It's really good.
that is amazing :D so much detail in game :D
Sombron is based on a Mexican Boogiman I hope he wears a Sombrero and wears all black but paired up with Lumera as a Duo unit.
Some German additions:
Diamant and Saphir are the German words for Diamond and Saphire
"Madeline" has a weak German connection. Our name for girl is "Mädchen", and in some dialect it comes down to "Mädl", or even "Mädlein" - the latter spoken like, well, "Madeline". However, this is such an antique and regional term, used only by the elderly today, that it's a very very far out stretch. Then again, you found that very far out connection, so... all's possible.
Also, Calney, or especially Carney, *might* be a reference to Carneol. A reddish gemstone.
Pretty sure Framme and Clanne's color scheme's are a part of rhe Christmas Duo trope
Ok as a french person it's funny to see that France is canon in a fantasy video game
Fun fact : Rosado's name means "pink" in spanish AND is a derivative of "rosa" or "rose", when you translate "rose" in french it doesn't change, but if you translate "pink" in french you get... "rose" !
I wasn't crazy thinking all the brodia character was named after gems.
when i first played the game i was confused since the whole game is spoken in english but they wrote and pronounced diamant in german, especially since other names like lapis or citrinne or alcryst sound like they are pronounced in english and and aside from jade which is a real name are mutation of gemstone not simply a stonename from another language.
They may have felt that "Diamond" wasn't masculine enough for him or something. It's interesting that they were more playful with some but not others
Might be a stretch but the smithing shopkeep could be a play on chalcedony.
Also Mauvier probably isnt his real name either considering he's firinese so he could have a name like marc or moschino or whatever
Looks like Nintendo is following the theme naming conventions from other video game series, particularly the company's golden boy and mascot, Mario. You know, Mario has specific themes on their levels, such as Donut Plains in Super Mario World that uses food names or Acorn Plains in New Super Mario Bros U that uses plant motifs.
It may be a stretch, but Calney could potentially be a shortened version of the name Chalcedony, a crystal known for its pale blue color.
Alear did mention it was Sombron who gave them their name though so im a little curious as to whats up with that
When the heck was that mentioned?
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@@neog8029 When Lumera asked what Evil Alear’s name is, he said that Sombron called him Alear just once
I actually thought Eve‘s name comes from yves saint laurent since the pronunciation of Eve sounds so similar to Yves
Missed that! But yeah that's a really popular brand, you could be right
I want to consume Pandreo 🍞
Do you even know where that loaf has been
@@lucky_crit it’s about be in my stomach after Pandreo warps my taste buds to heaven
Me but with (Affogato)
Calney - Carnelian stone?
I can't believe it didn't occur to me before this that panette and pandreo were siblings
They are also the retainers to the children’s of the Queen of Solm.
I was honestly surprised that Bunet and Merrin weren't also siblings
16:04 - He's referring to Cornwall
I always thought that Seadall was just a lame pun, but the double meaning with the food makes it cool
Also, supposedly the Lythos characters are partly named after wines, which explains the one shopkeeper
also, most solm names in japanese are exactly the meaning mentioned in the video.
Good to know!
My reaction to Zelestia's name origin is "NO F~ing WAY, that's sick!"
The Celosia part?
@@lucky_crit Yeah! Immediately picked up on the Celestia part by myself, and thought that was all!
First two French brand were French Canadian 🥹 seeing Canadian references makes me happy
I never used Pannette or Pandreo so that blew my mind
Got em
Not gonna lie; I didn't know their names were themed after drip, perhaps that's because I wear overalls.
Drippy overalls?
@@lucky_crit yeah, a certain popular brand called "Blue-Work".
Celine and her retainers kinda told me what was going on with Firene names.
Calney might be from Solm considering that cannelet are a french pastry/cake !
Damn Lindon is only 60, and that's the oldest. How old are saphir and Vander
I thought the pavise chat was joking when they said saphir was 35
@@Name-jb7kwnope, and vander is like 40
Yeah it's honestly ridiculous
As someone who just turned 39... Vander definitely looks way too old to only be 40. Nevermind Saphir...
On my first playthrough, I named sommie sora, completely unknowing that it was technically another canonical name for him😅
Lucky!
Calney makes me think Chalcedony. Just move the e and remove a few letters.
That’s nice, but what is Sommie named after?
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@@lucky_crit how’d you add that in? Witchcraft, that was not there before
I did it just for you, Roy
Nice
nah celine named after celine dion
Lol
Celine is a common name for girls.
Rosado name doesn't only mean pink, it is the male version of pink, Rosado, if it was the female version it would be Rosada
Your location tho lol
I hate that the gem names dont match the colours
Death to whoever did this