Development team meeting on Yakuza 3-5: "We have drafted out this elaborate conspiracy in the Tojo clan and set up all of these likeable characters that somehow got involved in the conspiracy" 20 hours of good story and plot twists and character development "This is great, what happens at the end?" "We don't know"
Yakuza 6: "Kazuma, what will you do after this?" "I don't know. I'll go make a cameo in Ichiban's game or some stuff. Heck, maybe try out for Smash or Tekken."
Yakuza 4s plot got so confusing even the main characters were lost and were like "fuck it, put the money on the tower and we wait with our shirts off and kick anyone's ass who shows up bc we have no idea who to fight at this point"
Honestly, yeah. Yakuza 5 entire story is just a huge mess and the plot sometimes felt nearly impossible to follow! But I'll be damned if they didn't give one of the best final boss fights of the series! This really felt like the first time Kiryu really had to fight for his life since Ryuji Goda! Mine and all the bosses of 4 really just don't don't hold the same weight at all! Mind you, while less physically imposing than Kiryu, Nishki provided a particularly stunning emotional impact that made that final boss fight so memorable. Damn I love these games!
jumpin over that stone fixture he swings at you gives me chubs every time haha i have the fight uploaded on my channel. 5 is my absolute favorite of the series
I dunno, the fight was neat I guess but you had already kicked his ass twice at that point (he even had help the first time) which really took me out of it. I felt like the whole thing was forced. Like “Oh shit we still need a final boss who is there left?!” Kinda vibe.
@@TRDEWH Story wise he definitelly was a bit of an ass-pull, though I guess the in the first fight he didn't give his all since he didn't want to kill Kiryu, same with Saejima and he was weakened from his previous colloseum fight. At least it's not as bad as with Ryuji who has his second fight minutes before the final one.
@@ericbot924 Well, a couple things, Kiryu was also weakened in the final fight due to the bullet in his gut, and during Aizawa’s fight against Saejima he WAS trying to kill him, to find Morinaga. Granted Aizawa got his ass handed to him beforehand (like a little bitch) before his fight with Saejima but still. The first fight between Kiryu and Morinaga/Aizawa Aizawa was the first to instigate the fight in the first place so I fell he had his heart set most in the first place. I dunno, Yakuza 5’s plot is by far the worst to me in the series. Like the gameplay’s great (except for a BUCNCH of gripes I have with Akiyama and Haruka, the characters’ behavior in the game altogether feels forced and not accurate to what was set up in previous games but whatever) but Shinada and the rest of the cast are a helluva lot of fun to play as, and the minigames are awesome but fuck, I have a ton of gripes with the main campaign. Feels like all the work 3 and 4 put into making a decent story fell apart in 5.
@@cometmoon4485 I mean the boss fight makes sense from a thematic perspective too, it feels like a perfect climax when you think back on it. I think that’s part of why it’s so great too lol
"Because the true main villain of this game has stage 4 cancer, so I'm standing in for him. Unless you really wanna beat up a cancer patient?" "Good point"
@@goldheartodyssey4486 I know, right, Hello there its X, coming from the dead, I faked my own dead, actually, I'm a korean too! I was behind all of this shit. Then Y comes out shoots X, and says that he was mastermind, then Y, who was knocked up, and de facto boss of the game, gets up and shoots Y. In the meantime X arms a huge fucking bomb. Which turns out to be a dud. What a fucking shitshow. I really appreciate Yakuza 0, shows how much writing and game progression improved over the years.
"They couldn't think of anyone else, so... Sup?" I'm glad that they seemed to learn their lesson and, in every Yakuza (and Judgement) after 5, they let you actually establish some real hatred towards the final boss before you beat them into paste.
The most obvious change they could do is to not kill Morinaga, and make him the final boss instead. But nope they made the final version looks like script writer got charcters' name mixed up, but not a single person at sega pointed it out 🤣
I mean you don’t need to hate all the bosses, I didn’t hate Ryuji, Nishiki, Arai, Daigo, Kido, Majima, etc. Aizawa isn’t meant to be hated so much as the new guard trying to replace the old guard, like was foreshadowed from the beginning. In the end the only bosses I hated were Shibusawa, Lao Gui, Munakata, and maybe the final bosses of Judge Eyes and 7. I can’t even hate some like Mine, cause that’s just not how the character was meant to be written
I think Morinaga is the only character to be killed off-screen like that, which is so weird. Kiryu's part set him up to be a big player, then you just casually learn he was killed.
@@kelvinjames2412 I thought Parks death was too predictable the second Haruka got the call my first thought was “oh my gosh park killed herself that’s too bad” luckily it wasn’t really like that though
Still better than the end of 4. "So we're all agreed, we have no fucking idea what's going on. Let's just put a pile of money on top of the millennium tower and fight whoever shows up."
Right? 5 had a moment that was similar though. "Okay guys, we all have the same goal and are technically on the same side. What do we do to bring the villian out?" "Let's all fight to the death until he shows up lol"
4's ending is dumb, but the kind of dumb that's also amazing, so I can't dislike it. 5 runs out of steam well before the end and just kinda falls flat. It goes on for like 10 hours too long.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 Y4: “Daigo, wanna fight? Everybody else picked an ass to kick and I REALLY want to punch something.” Y6: “I always thought of myself as your father”
Actually Aizawa's lines here in this scene were perfect. He was there on his estranged father's orders, cuz he wanted to give the entire Omi Alliance and Tojo Clan to him in a nice little gift basket, but at the end of the day his initial beat down by Kiryu awoke something in him and made him realize he couldn't let go of the idea that Kiryu was better than him. He trained all his career to make it to the top while guys like Kiryu had the fame by being out in the limelight. It wasn't about owning it all like his father wanted, Aizawa just wanted to prove himself and climb to the top of the mountain, and the person guarding the top was Kiryu.
I’m so glad to find a comment like this, all this right here is why Aizawa is one of my favorite antagonists in the series. Not only hype as hell, but genuinely well written and interesting too. I’m glad to see someone in these meme comments who gets it too!
True dat. Only thing bothering me is why is he so weak to begin with? He is the first "boss" with Morinaga and Kiryu beats them easily. And again Aizawa is beaten later by Saejima. There's so much deception going on.. did he hold back? Or did he just train a few days to get 8 or what health bars?
I mean the writing developed Aizawa gradually into the closest character to Ryuji other than Kiryu, so this is honestly the next best thing we could’ve asked for
It really feels like they regret killing Ryuji. Especially with Saejima, the Kansai dialect and sister aspect. Along with him being the “perfect rival” to Kiryu. Alongside the huge frame and old fashioned views
You would think that the more you did the side stuff with kiryu the more time aizawa had to wait on his chair So why the hell did he never come up with an answer to why he is there in the first place Since as soon as Big Chad dragon shows up aizawa just straight up hits him with the "I dont know shit" card.
Well, I mean, put away some of that tan, and we would get Fake Kiryu indeed, with that haircut, white suit, and purple shirt (you know, Kiryu's classic color scheme).
@@CidGuerreiro1234 nah the story itself is actually really well written. Like it has more clever foreshadowing in each part than almost any of us realize the first time around. All in all the only possible “weak” story in the series is 3, and even that was pretty great
@@DavidHosey1 Weakest story for me is 4 by far. It's all over the place, it revolves around a bunch of empty characters (Arai, Katsuragi, Munakata, Kido... you name it) and the finale couldn't be any less satisfying (Munakata worse than Jingu, ugh). Saejima's ending also amounts to nothing since he's immediately back in jail after it, and Tanimura isn't even mentioned again until you get to the Amons in 5. As for 5 it was just the mastermind plan that was convoluted beyond any reason, even if his goal was legit (leaving the fruits of his labour to his son, so that all his suffering wouldn't end up being meaningless). They should've given Aizawa more screen time and a more direct involvement in the plot, though. Killing Morinaga off-screen was also pretty dumb, especially after that dramatic moment by the end of Kiryu's story. Really feels like something was rewritten and there was simply no way to include him in the story anymore. That being said, I enjoyed Yakuza 5 a lot, and a lot more than 4 too. It's definetely in my top 3 Yakuza games.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 that’s surprising, I found 4 to be very strong and only beaten by 0, 5, and 6 for the Kiryu games. Sure Katsuragi is kinda lame, but others like Arai, Kido, Sugiuchi, and others were very interesting to me. Each was at least as well written as other fan favorite characters from the series, like Ryuji or Mine, tho I do admit I like Mine more than them. The final boss was actually kinda fun for me but I had an almost max Tanimura so that might be why. And as for those two character endings, Saejima just felt more tragic because of the prison time and clan eviction in 5 which just added to his character for me, and Tanimura is annoying but understandable since he left rather suddenly due to false drug allegations. All in all not one of the top tiers like 0 or 5, but still above 1 and 3 for me for sure For 5 yes it was a mastermind plot, but honestly one of the best done ones I know. If you’re paying attention you can see it from the first cutscene or so, but I know a ton of people who didn’t even see the setup coming until Akiyama’s part or even later. Kurosawa himself is a very hateable but well made character, and while I think Aizawa should’ve gotten more screen time too I think he was fine as is too. He is foreshadowed to not be dead and to be much more than he seems pretty frequently in part 1, as well as the 3 Tojo traitors being foreshadowed to be working with Kurosawa extremely early as well. And I wish they showed the Morinaga death in a flashback, but they did it well enough too since right after he leaves the next day you hear about “a dead body with its face bashed into an unrecognizable state.” Since that was supposedly Aizawa at first but that’s clearly a more Aizawa thing to do it sets up Aizawa very nicely imo All in all it’s subjective, but personally I think both are very high quality stories. Especially 5, easily either my 1st or 2nd favorite alongside 0
I still stand by my opinion that, if they didn't use the Daigo subplot in Yakuza 4 and reworked 5's story, Daigo would have been a perfect final boss to Yakuza 5.
Or Saejima - all the QTEs would still fit him perfectly. And he could have been actually relevant, given an actual character development that would make him the final boss somehow.
@@okuliare18 They could have just replaced the Omi Chairman and his scheming with Aizawa in the Final Chapter and you would suddenly have a plot that makes more sense and the player would actually be emotionally invested in taking Aizawa down. It wouldn't even be hard to write Aizawa's motivation. Either have him work behind his father's back to take over or have them scheming together giving Aizawa a far more active role in the plot. It wouldn't have taken much to turn him into at least a descent villain instead of Mr. "why am I even here?"
Without actively changing anything they could string up Aizawa’s backstory about how he hated his father and ran away from home. Morinaga took him into the Yakuza after a series of events. And when he found out Morinaga was killed by Kurosawa, he gets angry and tries to take over the Tojo Clan to destroy whatever his father built when he was chairman of the Omi Alliance. They could literally have done anything instead of “Writers said I was the only one left so I’m the final boss”
@@local7453 Yeah, indeed. It would have been so easy to make Aizawa much more relevant and interesting with only slight adjustments and relatively small amount of writing. I don't know how the game's plot ended up like this.
Yes, although we have already learned in Yakuza 2 that Daigo isn't shit next to Kiryu. He's a cool guy and all, buy you'd need 20 of him to *maybe* take Kiryu down.
@@Not_Claptrap the true villain of yakuza 6 is that one cop who was like "Oh so Date put in a highly secured hospital a comatose girl of a long time friend of his who happens to be the adoptive daughter of the Dragon of Dojima, a legendary Yakuza with a lot of enemies who want to kill him and or use his close friends and family to draw him out meanwhile a literal war is happening in Kamurocho right now? Thats girl is injustly being kept captive against her will despite her not complaining at all!"
He did, you just don’t really notice it much until retroactively and replaying the game. I’ve been replaying, and it feels like foreshadowing even from the beginning or so
the funny thing is that before the final fight aizawa was as weak as any punk in the street, then he becomes very strong...it is not known what kind of training he followed to become like this.
@@tentayeprimo6674 Probably lol...he Facing kiryu with more than half of the xp lost since he was injured.. kiryu full power would have devastated him with 1 punch.
@@DavidHosey1 the thing is that his reveal wasnt really foreshadowed. Kiryu goes into hiding, the ugly dude turns out to be a snake, then morinaga says that aizawa is dead. Skip a couple chapters and it turns out morinaga is dead and aizawa is the true snake all along and is the son of the omi alliance chairman. Wheres the foreshadowing? It just jumps from one thing to the next
@@Not_Claptrap you see that he and Morinaga are hiding more than they’re saying at the beginning, Aizawa and his massive amount of both strength and temper is mentioned many times, Kurosawa conveniently sends Kiryu to places in direct coinciding timing with Morinaga and Aizawa, Morinaga had a weird sudden betrayal of Aizawa seemed weird given all of the subtle nods prior like I mentioned, Kurosawa knows of Kiryu’s injury that no one who wasn’t there should know about, a strangely defaced and horrendously beaten body that is also fresh has turned up (not Morinaga’s style at all), Aizawa shows up again and the first thing he does is horribly beat someone to death by destroying their face much like said body earlier, etc. It’s not something everyone is gonna notice, but definitely something with a ton of foreshadowing
It might be bizarre plot twist, but reveal itself is hilarious, him fucking sitting there fully dripped up in that fucking suit posing like that on Tojo chairman's throne and saying he doesn't know what he's doing here.
That self awareness is a different level, a literal fourth wall breaking reflection, glad I got to witness a bona fide wise one, such an astounding game, clips like this always remind me that although they don’t have to because it’s not an easy thing to forget. I’ll always hold it dear.it’s criminal about the lack recognition though. So many good years with the under appreciated series, that we will always appreciate.
I mean they do also explain it in the scene, and it retroactively makes a lot of events more foreshadowing. But yea it kinda feels self aware in the most hilarious way lmao
Okay, here's what's going on, as I understand it, put as plainly as I can make it. The Osaka detective is the mastermind behind the whole plot. His true identity is that of the Seventh Chairman of the Omi Alliance, Tsubasa Kurosawa. Kurosawa clawed his way up from the bottom to the top by himself by doing dirty work that no one else wanted to do. But once he finally got to the top, all he felt was emptiness after everything he'd done, including having to kill both his aniki and his ouyaji. Seeing other people climb to the top with little hardship because they had charisma or help from others sickened him. He believed that yakuza should use whatever means necessary to achieve their goals, instead of relying on charisma, or honor, or blood oaths. To make things worse, Kurosawa had contracted terminal lung cancer, and realized he had no legacy to leave behind. So he decided to put a plan into motion. He would cause turmoil within the Tojo Clan and the Omi Alliance, remove the top dogs from the picture, merge the remains together in his own image, and then leave it all to his son, Masato Aizawa. Aizawa was in on the whole plan from the beginning, but he didn't really care about Kurosawa's legacy that much. Aizawa's belief that only the strongest win, regardless of charisma, power, pedigree, or natural talent, is what drove him to get strong enough on his own to surpass Kazuma Kiryu, and earn his spot as a legend and top dog among the yakuza.
Yeah but that doesn’t explain why Yakuza 5 goes from a street brawler to a collection of mini games halfway through before switching back into a street brawler
Thank you, I finally find someone who is not dumb in the fandom, I honestly don’t understand how people think that the plot is more messier than yakuza 4, It was PREETY OBVIOUS THAT THE MASTERMIND WAS THE “cop” LMAO, I knew that before the final chapter, he was everywhere and he always have the “answer” for everything
@@chaotixhero seriously you can't compare an overall good plot and an amazing character like ichiban to bullshits like CIA plotting against yakuza to kill a terrorist who was actually a CIA agent all the time, rubber bullets and an oyabun who everybody should know enjoy pretending to be a detective...
@@giovannibalsamo6178 is Y7 that good? My sister just bought every yakuza game but 7 because apparently the "language was unnecessarily vulgar" & "Ichiban was dumb and boo turn based"
@@giovannibalsamo6178 In fairness the rubber bullets point actually kind of makes sense because it was supposed to be stupid. The people who thought it up jumped at the first chance they could get and were rewarded by being slaves to Munakata for 25 years. Munakata himself pointed out how stupid it was. It also doesn't make Saejima any less gritty because, whatever happened, he still strolled up to a ramen store, fully prepared to gun down everyone there.
@@sleep5329 I think Ichiban is a great character, we are used to always see kiryu as the alpha man who everyone fears and respects and who can beat everyone relying only on his superhuman strength, able to solve alone each kind of hard quest driven by only stoicism. Despite his coolness, it's a quite boring japanese stereotype. Ichiban is the exact opposite, despite his remarkable physical strength he is and has always been a social outcast who nobody ever cared and his growth as character and as person is given by the bond he gets with his friends, not to consider that despite all he got through his life, he always remained a positive person willing to do anything to be loyal to the people he cares. If Kiryu is the japanese alpha male, Ichiban shows so many shades of his character being at same time stupid, funny, serious, smart, stoic and hopeful. That's why to me Ichiban is a much better and complex character than kiryu. Japanese VA did an amazing performance, along ellie of TLOU2, he's the best character/interpretation of 2020 games to me. If you don't like turn based rpg, those are personal tastes, but the game is great.
Finished yakuza 5 a couple days ago and when i was walking into the tojo clan hq i had no idea who the final boss was and deep down i was hoping it was Kuze and after beating the game i thought about it and it made more sense for it to be him instead of Aizawa
It would make more sense for literally anyone else to be the final boss tbh. If the final boss was Nishiki's ghost, and Kiryu pulled out a giant vacuum cleaner and said "It's ghost busting time!" it would still be less wacky and make more sense than Y5's plot.
He's like: I don't know Kiryu, somebody just told me to be here, anyway let's take off our shirts and fight about something we aren't really sure ourselves
Of course its a joke, but the lack of context really makes it seem worse than it is. Aizawa is an overly ambitious upstart for the Tojo clan who was constantly getting his ass beat the whole game. But its mainly because he pitted himself only against the best Tojo had to offer. Then suddenly, by a convoluted scheme from his dying father, he finds himself at the head of the clan. He really doesn't know the finer details, but he achieved his goal of reaching the top. The fight is great because he's still conflicted about if he deserves it.
The problem is that there is clearly no build up for his character at all. He has like 5 minutes of screentime, none of which ever mentioned or even hint at this finale. It makes it feel like the writer just throw in plot twists for plot twists' sake, it doesn't work like that.
@@linhza501 Come on, no screen time? He has key battles with both Kiryu and Saejima with his aspirations given both times. Morinaga and Himself are also central to the whole plot. Sure, he may be the final boss out of plot twists, but don't try and act like this character was shoehorned in.
Most people ignore it's not a sudden writing, Aizawa really seemed to be someone that could fit this role from the beginning, but man, it'd be better if he didn't disappeared from half of the game, just add some scenes during Haruka-Akiyama and Shinada parts and done.
Bro it's subtext. Kiryu is the final boss in the way of Aizawa's yume. After all, there's literally nowhere else Kiryu can go. He fought his brother in 1, another dragon in 2, and a mirrored version of himself in 3. What direction can you take the strongest person in-lore, so that it would make sense in not only a gameplay but story perspective? Make him the final boss of someone else. That's why Aizawa is secretly brilliant ngl. He rejected his father's yume so that he could fulfill his own.
Yea 5 is a really amazing story all around. Hell you can find really great explanations for Aizawa that are canon and make this scene one of the best in the series. Really just makes the 10/10 game into an 11/10 lol
It really did feel really random to have Aizawa as the final boss, considering he barely had screen time. The boss fight itself was really awesome though.
-What do you mean? -Well the script says i must wait for you here, start a calm conversation and proceed to have an epic fight with you -Mmm... ok then
street fights arent canon sub story fights happen mostly cuz the yakuza or some punks thinks they are hot shit but then run away when their ass is grass
If they'd at least showed some feats for Aizawa. Like getting close to beating Saejima or something similar, it would make sense for him to be final boss. Instead, they just make him 10x stronger out of nowhere compared to the beginning.
@Andrew also we did see Aizawa be a fucking beast on the coliseum problem is that we bash is head in with Saejima right after so that scene loses its impact
As much as I like the side content of Yakuza 5, we have to admit that the story tried to cram so much shit to make it all connect to the characters. Makes it feel like they’re taking the piss and somewhat had the balls to mention it with Aizawa’s reveal lacking development.
They clearly didn't have enough time so they just conveniently pull some bullshit out their asses for the ending to wrap it all up. Also there are lots of characters that are introduced early on but just tossed to the side or never mentioned again in the story. The woman living with Kiryu for example (forgot her name, because she's clearly that forgettable lol). They shot themselves in the foot with such a big scope in terms of story. But the gameplay managed to pull the game back a lot, thankfully.
@@linhza501 but nothing was really an asspull. Either it was important in the long run or it wasn’t. That girl wasn’t and never seemed like she would be. Aizawa, from the very first cutscene, was made out to be. That’s how the plot is written and makes it legitimately great
I think Kurosawa went in the end like: "Okay, my plan is screwed, at least my son right now can take over the Tojo, for a little while." Also, what are you pepople even talking about? 5 has one of the best storylines in the series, and you can pretty much follow it! I can't even count how many times i was confused while playing 4, especially when it was finale, but here... Everything was actually decent. "Dreams/Yume are retarted theme." Did you even followed the story? This theme involves every character and was played out actually pretty good, and it didn't felt "forced", like everyone says.
I think Kurosawa's whole thing was that he went through hell to claw his way to the top, then he got diagnosed with terminal illness and spun into an existential crisis wondering what it was all for. Y5 shoves its themes in your face really hard, "Dreams" and "Legacy". The idea that a dream is something that can be passed from person to person. Kurosawa comes with his whole plan after learning he's about to die because he feels like if he has a dream to pass on to his son then his life won't have been meaningless. There's obvious parallels between Kurosawa's goals and Mirei Park trying to pass on her dream to Haruka, plus Kiryu working hard to protect the orphanage and give the kids there a better life than he had. All these characters find meaning in life by making sacrifices to pass their dreams onto a new generation. I think Kiryu probably realized this parallel at the end too once he learned Kurosawa's true goals. I think he can relate to Kurosawa and he's trying to honor him by actually giving his son a real fight and a chance to overcome and succeed. It's obvious that Kiryu isn't super angry in this fight. Aizawa never really knew his dad and doesn't really understand his dream, but he's willing to rise up to the challenge since the opportunity presented itself. That's all my interpretation at least.
Aizawa's story is one of those ambitious youngsters within the Tojo Clan Kiryu needs to discipline to let them realize their dream is not a joke walk in the park.
The theme, in case it wasn't picked up on the totally subtle theme this time was *Dreams* , and passing them onto other people. This guy picked up his Sworn Brother's dream and had it forced on him by others like his father. A charismatic replacement for Kiryu that might actually be able to control both the Omi and Tojo, but Aizawa doesn't care much for the "Dream" others have pushed onto him, but he's also lost so much to fulfill it he can't stop. There.
@@MugdhaMahdiShams No, it isn't actually made clear *who* killed Morinaga, but at that point Morinaga had pissed off so many people it's anyone's game though I'd put money on Kurosawa - Aizawa's father who pretended to be the detective and who was orchestrating the *whole damn thing* Maybe the guy who hates BIG DAMN HEROS would _not be pleased_ with one of his subordinates chickening out - especially by acting like a BIG DAMN HERO to save his "Bro".
Man, I played almost the entire series just a few months ago and while I can remember almost everything in the other games, 5 is just gone from my memory - aside from my hatred for the idol segment, that is. What a contrived, melodramatic mess of a story that game has. Even by Yakuza standards, this goes waaay overboard.
Yeah, I remember back when 5 was first coming out, so many people were trying to get people to play it. I'm so glad I didn't listen to them. If Yakuza 5 had been my first Yakuza game, I'd have written off the entire franchise forever.
@@mangopie7602 Listen, I get that people love Haruka and Japanese pop culture and all, but that segment had no chance with me to begin with, given how contrived its entire existence was - it came out of absolutely nowhere and went absolutely nowhere. Not to mention I remember its plot was predicated on liking one of the most unlikeable, disfunctional characters I have ever seen. ^^ Also, as a rhythm game it's just not my preferred style of music and also not my preferred style of gameplay. I get the appeal of the fact that it's so out there for this series and I wouldn't begrudge anyone enjoying an odd thing for being odd, but the idol industry in specific just grosses me the hell out.
Doing the same here, what’s your favorite and least favorite games so far? I’d probably say 0, 4, and 5 are my favorites for their story, and probably 2 or 3 are great but my least favorites cause of weird pacing on their stories
"idk they just put me here"
Didn't have any other character to make the final boss, just made Aizawa turn into the bad guy of the game lmao
Basically what happened
@@tjrex1915 literally
"I swear I was t-posing in the other side of the map 2 seconds ago"
Could've made Morinaga the final boss. We never saw him die, just heard it.
"What are you doing here?"
"My dad works at RGG Studios, they let me sit here."
LMAOOOOO
Not too far off from the canonical explanation
Development team meeting on Yakuza 3-5:
"We have drafted out this elaborate conspiracy in the Tojo clan and set up all of these likeable characters that somehow got involved in the conspiracy"
20 hours of good story and plot twists and character development
"This is great, what happens at the end?"
"We don't know"
Yakuza 6:
"Kazuma, what will you do after this?"
"I don't know. I'll go make a cameo in Ichiban's game or some stuff. Heck, maybe try out for Smash or Tekken."
@Plain Water About Kiryu being the only who could enter an hospital in Tokyo and he was in Okinawa?
@@theLikou1 the cia lend him a plane that can travel from okinawa to tokyo in less than an hour
@@kenonavarro8076 Yeah, normal, right? And he was the ONLY one who could have gone to that hospital.
Yakuza 4s plot got so confusing even the main characters were lost and were like "fuck it, put the money on the tower and we wait with our shirts off and kick anyone's ass who shows up bc we have no idea who to fight at this point"
At least you can't blame the writing for not being honest here, and hey, it gave us a pretty amazing fight too!
Greatest QTEs of the franchise
@@MaskOfLimbo Dude, there was like SO MANY qte's in this fight, the most out of any boss fight in the series, lol
@@chaoticgaming6932 And I love ALL of them :D
@@MaskOfLimbo Yessir!
Honestly, yeah. Yakuza 5 entire story is just a huge mess and the plot sometimes felt nearly impossible to follow! But I'll be damned if they didn't give one of the best final boss fights of the series! This really felt like the first time Kiryu really had to fight for his life since Ryuji Goda! Mine and all the bosses of 4 really just don't don't hold the same weight at all! Mind you, while less physically imposing than Kiryu, Nishki provided a particularly stunning emotional impact that made that final boss fight so memorable.
Damn I love these games!
I would have hated Aizawa had his battle not been as great as it is.
same, this is honestly my favorite fight in the series so far
jumpin over that stone fixture he swings at you gives me chubs every time haha i have the fight uploaded on my channel. 5 is my absolute favorite of the series
I dunno, the fight was neat I guess but you had already kicked his ass twice at that point (he even had help the first time) which really took me out of it. I felt like the whole thing was forced. Like “Oh shit we still need a final boss who is there left?!” Kinda vibe.
@@TRDEWH Story wise he definitelly was a bit of an ass-pull, though I guess the in the first fight he didn't give his all since he didn't want to kill Kiryu, same with Saejima and he was weakened from his previous colloseum fight. At least it's not as bad as with Ryuji who has his second fight minutes before the final one.
@@ericbot924 Well, a couple things, Kiryu was also weakened in the final fight due to the bullet in his gut, and during Aizawa’s fight against Saejima he WAS trying to kill him, to find Morinaga.
Granted Aizawa got his ass handed to him beforehand (like a little bitch) before his fight with Saejima but still. The first fight between Kiryu and Morinaga/Aizawa Aizawa was the first to instigate the fight in the first place so I fell he had his heart set most in the first place.
I dunno, Yakuza 5’s plot is by far the worst to me in the series. Like the gameplay’s great (except for a BUCNCH of gripes I have with Akiyama and Haruka, the characters’ behavior in the game altogether feels forced and not accurate to what was set up in previous games but whatever) but Shinada and the rest of the cast are a helluva lot of fun to play as, and the minigames are awesome but fuck, I have a ton of gripes with the main campaign. Feels like all the work 3 and 4 put into making a decent story fell apart in 5.
that single line pretty much sums up the reasoning the plot gives for this bossfight
Still made for one of the best cinematic scenes in Yakuza 5.
It's mainly down to the amazing theme song that plays during the fight.
@@cometmoon4485 Not just that. Those qtes were some of the best in the series.
@@cometmoon4485 I mean the boss fight makes sense from a thematic perspective too, it feels like a perfect climax when you think back on it. I think that’s part of why it’s so great too lol
"Because the true main villain of this game has stage 4 cancer, so I'm standing in for him. Unless you really wanna beat up a cancer patient?"
"Good point"
Equal fights.
Yakuza 5 is still a blur for me are you talking about the patriarch of that one family at the start of the game the ones in red or someone else
@@playzcrayon8186 the old guy that pretended to be detective
@@denis8936 OH THAT GUY
@@playzcrayon8186 yeah, i only beat the game yesterday so i still remember shit :)
Kiryu: Aizawa?! Why are you here?
Aizawa: Don't ask me, ask the writers. I told em this script don't make sense but they told me to go with it anyways
Yakuza 5’s plot is just a bunch of people shooting one another after saying “I was the actual mastermind all along!”
Thats yakuza 4
Yakuza 5 was entirely caused by one man having to literally eat shit
That's also the Yakuza 2 plot
@@goldheartodyssey4486 I know, right, Hello there its X, coming from the dead, I faked my own dead, actually, I'm a korean too! I was behind all of this shit. Then Y comes out shoots X, and says that he was mastermind, then Y, who was knocked up, and de facto boss of the game, gets up and shoots Y. In the meantime X arms a huge fucking bomb. Which turns out to be a dud. What a fucking shitshow. I really appreciate Yakuza 0, shows how much writing and game progression improved over the years.
@@ioszeged7274 remember kurosawa’s speech bro
“I filled your gun with blanks even though you’re technically working with me” God yakuza 5 was so stupid lol
"They couldn't think of anyone else, so... Sup?"
I'm glad that they seemed to learn their lesson and, in every Yakuza (and Judgement) after 5, they let you actually establish some real hatred towards the final boss before you beat them into paste.
The most obvious change they could do is to not kill Morinaga, and make him the final boss instead. But nope they made the final version looks like script writer got charcters' name mixed up, but not a single person at sega pointed it out 🤣
every yakuza after 5. So 6, and like a dragon.
@@RottenHeretic 0 was after 5 in terms of development, and as stated already, Judgment.
I mean you don’t need to hate all the bosses, I didn’t hate Ryuji, Nishiki, Arai, Daigo, Kido, Majima, etc. Aizawa isn’t meant to be hated so much as the new guard trying to replace the old guard, like was foreshadowed from the beginning. In the end the only bosses I hated were Shibusawa, Lao Gui, Munakata, and maybe the final bosses of Judge Eyes and 7. I can’t even hate some like Mine, cause that’s just not how the character was meant to be written
To be fair, the REAL bad guy of 5 was a cancer paitent who was in no condition to fight, so... they kind of had to make something up on the spot.
Reggie is the final boss of yakuza 5
Iwata is the final boss of yakuza 6
Nintendo clan vs Tojo clan
You could say SEGA clan
I mean in yakuza 7 you fight a guy called Tendo.
Now I just wish 5 and 6 were on Wii U/Switch.
And yes, I know the first 2 were on Wii U.
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@@jaypostromboli-jpgamertv-457 wouldn't run on it
To think that Morinaga got unceremoniously killed for this.
I think Morinaga is the only character to be killed off-screen like that, which is so weird. Kiryu's part set him up to be a big player, then you just casually learn he was killed.
@@zura8879 Park-san death for me was bad too, just when i started to like her she dies without any depth.
@@kelvinjames2412 I thought Parks death was too predictable the second Haruka got the call my first thought was “oh my gosh park killed herself that’s too bad” luckily it wasn’t really like that though
Honestly morinaga should’ve been the final boss. He’s a lot more interesting than Aizawas bland character.
@@zura8879 Honestly it just makes it seem like Morinaga's actor just quit halfway through, lol
Still better than the end of 4.
"So we're all agreed, we have no fucking idea what's going on. Let's just put a pile of money on top of the millennium tower and fight whoever shows up."
Right? 5 had a moment that was similar though.
"Okay guys, we all have the same goal and are technically on the same side. What do we do to bring the villian out?" "Let's all fight to the death until he shows up lol"
as laughable as 4's ending was, it was pretty damn cool
Nah 4s ending was better at least the matchups made sense as unfair as saejima and kiddo was it was all still set up way better then aizawa
Massive shirtless battles in a skyscraper's helipad is peak yakuza so you can't complain.
4's ending is dumb, but the kind of dumb that's also amazing, so I can't dislike it. 5 runs out of steam well before the end and just kinda falls flat. It goes on for like 10 hours too long.
Me: *laughs* "Wow really? Okay then. What's next? Is he gonna be revealed to be the Omi Chairman's son this entire ti-
Game! I was joking!!"
What
@@DavidHosey1 vat
Kiryu: What are you doing here?
Aizawa: You beat my Karaoke high score.
That's so dumb that i would believe to be the real reason
I mean, Who know? Maybe we will have Ichiban fight him in Like a Dragon 9 for this reason alone lmao
When you get a sudden promotion at work but you don’t know why
"idk man the plot pretty much wrapped up already but I still have these 9 health bars to take care of"
Yakuza 5 and 6 really said "let's give the worst characters the best final boss fights."
Low key Iwami was the best villian in the entire franchise, until this day is the only antagonist I really wanted death lol
@@andresashura5550 uhm... haruka's dad? Or the police chief in yakuza 4?
@@DanTE_1203 both were shit villains, the police chief needed a mustache to twirl and he would have fit his trope perfectly. Lmao
@@eproductions5115 Well they do fit the bill for antagonists that you just really wanted to beat to death XD
@@andresashura5550 , I need to play 6 again, I remember thinking Iwami was shit too. But I'll probably "get it", the second time around.
Anybody remember when they made Daigo an endgame villain in Yakuza 4 for no goddamn reason at all?
I sure do. Kiryu wasn't even mad at him after the finale. He had absolutely no reason to be there, other than that Kiryu needed someone to fight with.
"We need a final boss fight for Kiryu. Screw it, just put Daigo in there"
Yeah, i was wtf? At least was a fun fight
@@CidGuerreiro1234 Y4: “Daigo, wanna fight? Everybody else picked an ass to kick and I REALLY want to punch something.”
Y6: “I always thought of myself as your father”
@@giantrobby5050 Kiryu giving his son some tough love.
Actually Aizawa's lines here in this scene were perfect. He was there on his estranged father's orders, cuz he wanted to give the entire Omi Alliance and Tojo Clan to him in a nice little gift basket, but at the end of the day his initial beat down by Kiryu awoke something in him and made him realize he couldn't let go of the idea that Kiryu was better than him. He trained all his career to make it to the top while guys like Kiryu had the fame by being out in the limelight. It wasn't about owning it all like his father wanted, Aizawa just wanted to prove himself and climb to the top of the mountain, and the person guarding the top was Kiryu.
I’m so glad to find a comment like this, all this right here is why Aizawa is one of my favorite antagonists in the series. Not only hype as hell, but genuinely well written and interesting too. I’m glad to see someone in these meme comments who gets it too!
True dat. Only thing bothering me is why is he so weak to begin with? He is the first "boss" with Morinaga and Kiryu beats them easily. And again Aizawa is beaten later by Saejima. There's so much deception going on.. did he hold back? Or did he just train a few days to get 8 or what health bars?
@@Thaipropeller He absolutely held back in the first Kiryu fight, and was already tired against Saejima.
@@SaintMarianne Besides, Kiryu in Yakuza 0 gets ridiculously strong in like, what, a week? Why can't Aizawa do the same?
I completely forgot who this guy was until Kiryu said Aizawa 😂😂
I will go into my grave wishing Ryuji Goda had been around for this game to have this boss fight with Kiryu instead.
he's very busy making takoyaki
@@squippyfresh that a non-canon
I mean the writing developed Aizawa gradually into the closest character to Ryuji other than Kiryu, so this is honestly the next best thing we could’ve asked for
It really feels like they regret killing Ryuji. Especially with Saejima, the Kansai dialect and sister aspect. Along with him being the “perfect rival” to Kiryu. Alongside the huge frame and old fashioned views
@@elijahfyffe5176the way RGG are bringing back characters who should be dead ryuji might still be alive
You would think that the more you did the side stuff with kiryu the more time aizawa had to wait on his chair
So why the hell did he never come up with an answer to why he is there in the first place
Since as soon as Big Chad dragon shows up aizawa just straight up hits him with the
"I dont know shit" card.
He was browsing his phone the whole time, instead of preparing.
Player got sidetracked and he sat there for so long he forgot
Imagine if Kiryu opens the door… only to be met by another Kiryu!
The 2nd return of Fake Kiryu, only this time he's trained.
I don’t even remember writing this.
@@DCBiscuit That's how unpredictable that twist was, not even its creator saw it coming.
Well, I mean, put away some of that tan, and we would get Fake Kiryu indeed, with that haircut, white suit, and purple shirt (you know, Kiryu's classic color scheme).
spider man meme
Kiryu: Aizawa?! Why are you here?
Me: WHO ARE YOU?!?!?!?!?
Yume 5's peak storytelling.
I mean it’s a good story, in the actual game lol
Yakuza 5 has a bad story with great characters (mostly) holding it together.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 nah the story itself is actually really well written. Like it has more clever foreshadowing in each part than almost any of us realize the first time around. All in all the only possible “weak” story in the series is 3, and even that was pretty great
@@DavidHosey1 Weakest story for me is 4 by far. It's all over the place, it revolves around a bunch of empty characters (Arai, Katsuragi, Munakata, Kido... you name it) and the finale couldn't be any less satisfying (Munakata worse than Jingu, ugh). Saejima's ending also amounts to nothing since he's immediately back in jail after it, and Tanimura isn't even mentioned again until you get to the Amons in 5.
As for 5 it was just the mastermind plan that was convoluted beyond any reason, even if his goal was legit (leaving the fruits of his labour to his son, so that all his suffering wouldn't end up being meaningless). They should've given Aizawa more screen time and a more direct involvement in the plot, though. Killing Morinaga off-screen was also pretty dumb, especially after that dramatic moment by the end of Kiryu's story. Really feels like something was rewritten and there was simply no way to include him in the story anymore.
That being said, I enjoyed Yakuza 5 a lot, and a lot more than 4 too. It's definetely in my top 3 Yakuza games.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 that’s surprising, I found 4 to be very strong and only beaten by 0, 5, and 6 for the Kiryu games. Sure Katsuragi is kinda lame, but others like Arai, Kido, Sugiuchi, and others were very interesting to me. Each was at least as well written as other fan favorite characters from the series, like Ryuji or Mine, tho I do admit I like Mine more than them. The final boss was actually kinda fun for me but I had an almost max Tanimura so that might be why. And as for those two character endings, Saejima just felt more tragic because of the prison time and clan eviction in 5 which just added to his character for me, and Tanimura is annoying but understandable since he left rather suddenly due to false drug allegations. All in all not one of the top tiers like 0 or 5, but still above 1 and 3 for me for sure
For 5 yes it was a mastermind plot, but honestly one of the best done ones I know. If you’re paying attention you can see it from the first cutscene or so, but I know a ton of people who didn’t even see the setup coming until Akiyama’s part or even later. Kurosawa himself is a very hateable but well made character, and while I think Aizawa should’ve gotten more screen time too I think he was fine as is too. He is foreshadowed to not be dead and to be much more than he seems pretty frequently in part 1, as well as the 3 Tojo traitors being foreshadowed to be working with Kurosawa extremely early as well. And I wish they showed the Morinaga death in a flashback, but they did it well enough too since right after he leaves the next day you hear about “a dead body with its face bashed into an unrecognizable state.” Since that was supposedly Aizawa at first but that’s clearly a more Aizawa thing to do it sets up Aizawa very nicely imo
All in all it’s subjective, but personally I think both are very high quality stories. Especially 5, easily either my 1st or 2nd favorite alongside 0
I still stand by my opinion that, if they didn't use the Daigo subplot in Yakuza 4 and reworked 5's story, Daigo would have been a perfect final boss to Yakuza 5.
Or Saejima - all the QTEs would still fit him perfectly. And he could have been actually relevant, given an actual character development that would make him the final boss somehow.
@@okuliare18 They could have just replaced the Omi Chairman and his scheming with Aizawa in the Final Chapter and you would suddenly have a plot that makes more sense and the player would actually be emotionally invested in taking Aizawa down. It wouldn't even be hard to write Aizawa's motivation. Either have him work behind his father's back to take over or have them scheming together giving Aizawa a far more active role in the plot. It wouldn't have taken much to turn him into at least a descent villain instead of Mr. "why am I even here?"
Without actively changing anything they could string up Aizawa’s backstory about how he hated his father and ran away from home. Morinaga took him into the Yakuza after a series of events. And when he found out Morinaga was killed by Kurosawa, he gets angry and tries to take over the Tojo Clan to destroy whatever his father built when he was chairman of the Omi Alliance. They could literally have done anything instead of
“Writers said I was the only one left so I’m the final boss”
@@local7453
Yeah, indeed. It would have been so easy to make Aizawa much more relevant and interesting with only slight adjustments and relatively small amount of writing. I don't know how the game's plot ended up like this.
Yes, although we have already learned in Yakuza 2 that Daigo isn't shit next to Kiryu. He's a cool guy and all, buy you'd need 20 of him to *maybe* take Kiryu down.
Yakuza 5's plot in a nutshell :
Haruka: I want to be an idol.
40 hours of history later
I don't wanna be an idol! I wanna be home.
The next game
I don't wanna be home!
@@AridaneKunOnline considering all the shit that happened because of her stupid retirement speech, Haruka may as well be the true villain of Yakuza 6
@@PedroHenrique-su8nl the true villain of yakuza 6 is the fucking media
@@Not_Claptrap the true villain of yakuza 6 is that one cop who was like "Oh so Date put in a highly secured hospital a comatose girl of a long time friend of his who happens to be the adoptive daughter of the Dragon of Dojima, a legendary Yakuza with a lot of enemies who want to kill him and or use his close friends and family to draw him out meanwhile a literal war is happening in Kamurocho right now? Thats girl is injustly being kept captive against her will despite her not complaining at all!"
@@vestin6696 oh but she was in a coma, she wasnt mentally there at the time
"This story is already a complicated nonsense, can I add something for Aizawa to say?"
"Sure"
How? It’s pretty straightforward and makes sense if you follow along lol
@@DavidHosey1 It is, it's just somehow blending together.
@@JacobTheCroc ah I think I get what you mean. Didn’t happen to me for any of these games, but I get what you mean
@@DavidHosey1if it was Morinaga instead maybe
Kagura: The mangaka still can't think of an ending.
Shinpachi: That's too EXPLICIT!
"Why are you here?"
"Because of principle..."
"And what principle would that be?"
"The principle writer."
Imagine how great of a fight it would be if he had proper buildup.
He did, you just don’t really notice it much until retroactively and replaying the game. I’ve been replaying, and it feels like foreshadowing even from the beginning or so
LaD: Gaiden does this type of final boss much better imo
"I just came 'cause they told me there would be free cake."
the funny thing is that before the final fight aizawa was as weak as any punk in the street, then he becomes very strong...it is not known what kind of training he followed to become like this.
He got beat up by Saejima and got just enough xp to level up for Kiryu.
@@tentayeprimo6674 Probably lol...he Facing kiryu with more than half of the xp lost since he was injured.. kiryu full power would have devastated him with 1 punch.
@@Deicide86 lol F for yahata
@Andrew And he was already tired and beat up when he fought Saejima
@@zyphos9444 and also he didn't use his full power because he wanted it to hide it.
Aizawa was such a garbage reveal, the fight itself was awesome tho, love the stage translations, his moveset, and that Heat aura was badass
Aizawa reveal was great tho, basically a grunt turning into a Ryuji from 2. Makes sense from foreshadowing and is hype as hell lol
@@DavidHosey1 the thing is that his reveal wasnt really foreshadowed. Kiryu goes into hiding, the ugly dude turns out to be a snake, then morinaga says that aizawa is dead. Skip a couple chapters and it turns out morinaga is dead and aizawa is the true snake all along and is the son of the omi alliance chairman. Wheres the foreshadowing? It just jumps from one thing to the next
@@Not_Claptrap you see that he and Morinaga are hiding more than they’re saying at the beginning, Aizawa and his massive amount of both strength and temper is mentioned many times, Kurosawa conveniently sends Kiryu to places in direct coinciding timing with Morinaga and Aizawa, Morinaga had a weird sudden betrayal of Aizawa seemed weird given all of the subtle nods prior like I mentioned, Kurosawa knows of Kiryu’s injury that no one who wasn’t there should know about, a strangely defaced and horrendously beaten body that is also fresh has turned up (not Morinaga’s style at all), Aizawa shows up again and the first thing he does is horribly beat someone to death by destroying their face much like said body earlier, etc.
It’s not something everyone is gonna notice, but definitely something with a ton of foreshadowing
It might be bizarre plot twist, but reveal itself is hilarious, him fucking sitting there fully dripped up in that fucking suit posing like that on Tojo chairman's throne and saying he doesn't know what he's doing here.
Kiryu : Why are you here?
Aizawa : Well, ya got me. By all accounts it doesn't make sense.
That self awareness is a different level, a literal fourth wall breaking reflection, glad I got to witness a bona fide wise one, such an astounding game, clips like this always remind me that although they don’t have to because it’s not an easy thing to forget. I’ll always hold it dear.it’s criminal about the lack recognition though. So many good years with the under appreciated series, that we will always appreciate.
I mean they do also explain it in the scene, and it retroactively makes a lot of events more foreshadowing. But yea it kinda feels self aware in the most hilarious way lmao
Aizawa might not be the best character story wise but DAMN does he have the best fight in the series (in my opinion, I also like joji kazamas fight)
Okay, here's what's going on, as I understand it, put as plainly as I can make it.
The Osaka detective is the mastermind behind the whole plot. His true identity is that of the Seventh Chairman of the Omi Alliance, Tsubasa Kurosawa.
Kurosawa clawed his way up from the bottom to the top by himself by doing dirty work that no one else wanted to do. But once he finally got to the top, all he felt was emptiness after everything he'd done, including having to kill both his aniki and his ouyaji.
Seeing other people climb to the top with little hardship because they had charisma or help from others sickened him. He believed that yakuza should use whatever means necessary to achieve their goals, instead of relying on charisma, or honor, or blood oaths.
To make things worse, Kurosawa had contracted terminal lung cancer, and realized he had no legacy to leave behind. So he decided to put a plan into motion. He would cause turmoil within the Tojo Clan and the Omi Alliance, remove the top dogs from the picture, merge the remains together in his own image, and then leave it all to his son, Masato Aizawa.
Aizawa was in on the whole plan from the beginning, but he didn't really care about Kurosawa's legacy that much. Aizawa's belief that only the strongest win, regardless of charisma, power, pedigree, or natural talent, is what drove him to get strong enough on his own to surpass Kazuma Kiryu, and earn his spot as a legend and top dog among the yakuza.
Yeah but that doesn’t explain why Yakuza 5 goes from a street brawler to a collection of mini games halfway through before switching back into a street brawler
@@Ravendarkwytch dude the Haruka chapter was my favorite part I did all of her side stuff there are only 3 songs but I liked em
@@Ravendarkwytch thats all yakuza
@@sHURA94 Only if you do all the side quests...I sucked at their version of karaoke, so avoided it like the plague
Thank you, I finally find someone who is not dumb in the fandom, I honestly don’t understand how people think that the plot is more messier than yakuza 4, It was PREETY OBVIOUS THAT THE MASTERMIND WAS THE “cop” LMAO, I knew that before the final chapter, he was everywhere and he always have the “answer” for everything
This has happened twice already. Saejima gave some young underdog a motivational speech, and the next time you meet them they turned eViL.
“I caused a ruckus on a GMod DarkRP server and the admins stuck me here as punishment 🤷♂️ “
Kiryu: uhhh why are you of all people here?
Aizawa:honestly bruh I have no clue but lets give me a helluva show eitherway
it's really great how story and story telling of Y0, Y6 and Y7 evolved from stupid and confusing Y3,4,5 plots
Y7's was a tad bit generic with its power of friendship moments.
@@chaotixhero
seriously you can't compare an overall good plot and an amazing character like ichiban to bullshits like CIA plotting against yakuza to kill a terrorist who was actually a CIA agent all the time, rubber bullets and an oyabun who everybody should know enjoy pretending to be a detective...
@@giovannibalsamo6178 is Y7 that good? My sister just bought every yakuza game but 7 because apparently the "language was unnecessarily vulgar" & "Ichiban was dumb and boo turn based"
@@giovannibalsamo6178
In fairness the rubber bullets point actually kind of makes sense because it was supposed to be stupid. The people who thought it up jumped at the first chance they could get and were rewarded by being slaves to Munakata for 25 years. Munakata himself pointed out how stupid it was.
It also doesn't make Saejima any less gritty because, whatever happened, he still strolled up to a ramen store, fully prepared to gun down everyone there.
@@sleep5329 I think Ichiban is a great character, we are used to always see kiryu as the alpha man who everyone fears and respects and who can beat everyone relying only on his superhuman strength, able to solve alone each kind of hard quest driven by only stoicism. Despite his coolness, it's a quite boring japanese stereotype.
Ichiban is the exact opposite, despite his remarkable physical strength he is and has always been a social outcast who nobody ever cared and his growth as character and as person is given by the bond he gets with his friends, not to consider that despite all he got through his life, he always remained a positive person willing to do anything to be loyal to the people he cares. If Kiryu is the japanese alpha male, Ichiban shows so many shades of his character being at same time stupid, funny, serious, smart, stoic and hopeful. That's why to me Ichiban is a much better and complex character than kiryu. Japanese VA did an amazing performance, along ellie of TLOU2, he's the best character/interpretation of 2020 games to me. If you don't like turn based rpg, those are personal tastes, but the game is great.
"It's you... wait who are you again?"
*curb your enthusiasm plays*
Finished yakuza 5 a couple days ago and when i was walking into the tojo clan hq i had no idea who the final boss was and deep down i was hoping it was Kuze and after beating the game i thought about it and it made more sense for it to be him instead of Aizawa
It would make more sense for literally anyone else to be the final boss tbh. If the final boss was Nishiki's ghost, and Kiryu pulled out a giant vacuum cleaner and said "It's ghost busting time!" it would still be less wacky and make more sense than Y5's plot.
He's like: I don't know Kiryu, somebody just told me to be here, anyway let's take off our shirts and fight about something we aren't really sure ourselves
ahaha honestly kiryu just beats people for no reason tbh
When you gotta face the biggest badass in Kamurocho but your dementia kicks in
Of course its a joke, but the lack of context really makes it seem worse than it is. Aizawa is an overly ambitious upstart for the Tojo clan who was constantly getting his ass beat the whole game. But its mainly because he pitted himself only against the best Tojo had to offer. Then suddenly, by a convoluted scheme from his dying father, he finds himself at the head of the clan. He really doesn't know the finer details, but he achieved his goal of reaching the top. The fight is great because he's still conflicted about if he deserves it.
The problem is that there is clearly no build up for his character at all. He has like 5 minutes of screentime, none of which ever mentioned or even hint at this finale. It makes it feel like the writer just throw in plot twists for plot twists' sake, it doesn't work like that.
@@linhza501 Come on, no screen time? He has key battles with both Kiryu and Saejima with his aspirations given both times. Morinaga and Himself are also central to the whole plot. Sure, he may be the final boss out of plot twists, but don't try and act like this character was shoehorned in.
Reggie Fils-Amie becomes a Yakuza.
We get to fight Iwata in 6 so its all good
Yokoyama moment
I think Morinaga should of been the son tbh. It of fit better with the story, especially if they just add a few more scenes with him.
Morinaga even looked like kurosawa. Goatee, lean physique and all that.
@
DanteDevil12
"Yakuza 5's final boss doesn't know why he gets completely destroyed by DanteDevil12 the player / master."
Aizawa is still my favorite boss in the series.
Shibusawa is the best boss imo.
I would pick mine, he is pretty tough
@@akkeut1324 He's only tough cause of the terrible combat and constant blocking
@@noriakikakyoin1423 i am recently playing yakuza 3 remaster, is it harder than yakuza 0 and kiwami,or just i am suck?
@@akkeut1324 It's harder in the fact that the combat is terrible and the enemy's block almost every move
I feel like the justification was there but the build up was not
When the writers give up...
When the writers write well
5 was such a long game that after Kiryus part I forgot who the hell this guy was.
Aizawa: I don’t know why I’m here, I just know I’m being called the final boss... but am I?
crazy how theres a dantedevil and a devilleon both making yakuza videos
Kiryu: “Why are you here?!”
Aizawa: “I dunno”
Kiryu: “What do you mean you don’t know?!”
Aizawa:
Kiryu:
Aizawa: “I dunno”
That's not entirely true. Spoiler warning
Aizawa knew he was the son of the omi chairman
There is nothing left for Dante to do with the Yakuza series now so he just uploads memes.
Has he tried kenzan and ishin?
Ishin yes
We’ve all had moments like these in are lives
Most people ignore it's not a sudden writing, Aizawa really seemed to be someone that could fit this role from the beginning, but man, it'd be better if he didn't disappeared from half of the game, just add some scenes during Haruka-Akiyama and Shinada parts and done.
Bro it's subtext. Kiryu is the final boss in the way of Aizawa's yume. After all, there's literally nowhere else Kiryu can go. He fought his brother in 1, another dragon in 2, and a mirrored version of himself in 3. What direction can you take the strongest person in-lore, so that it would make sense in not only a gameplay but story perspective? Make him the final boss of someone else. That's why Aizawa is secretly brilliant ngl. He rejected his father's yume so that he could fulfill his own.
I honestly think that this is the only flaw in the yakuza 5 plot for me
Because everything else is solid
Yea 5 is a really amazing story all around. Hell you can find really great explanations for Aizawa that are canon and make this scene one of the best in the series. Really just makes the 10/10 game into an 11/10 lol
It really did feel really random to have Aizawa as the final boss, considering he barely had screen time. The boss fight itself was really awesome though.
-What do you mean?
-Well the script says i must wait for you here, start a calm conversation and proceed to have an epic fight with you
-Mmm... ok then
Plot twist:The developers secretly hired Nomura to write the story.
I love how Baba is obviously going to be a final boss just from his personalized moveset and Aizawa is the opposite.
he may not know but that was one of the greatest fights ever
For a split second, and I mean a SPLIT second I thought you made it look like Kuze!
Well he did admit that he wanted to to fight Kiryu. So that's something.
"hey what's the plot of yakuza 5?"
me: 0:26
the plot in 2 words: tokyo stadium
@@celestialcressy the plot in one word: *DREAM*
Let's be fair. A lot of the fights happen just because, especially the street fights.
street fights arent canon
sub story fights happen mostly cuz the yakuza or some punks thinks they are hot shit but then run away when their ass is grass
Hell of a fight though
I think we were all wondering the same thing
"I love this location, so why not, hey?
His arc was my favourite part of 5 but then this happened
But this is the best part of his arc tho
@@DavidHosey1 no
@@qwerty-hr5xh yes
"Idk Yokoyama said we're out of actor and they pick me who's about to bite Takoyaki. So let's fight."
If they'd at least showed some feats for Aizawa. Like getting close to beating Saejima or something similar, it would make sense for him to be final boss. Instead, they just make him 10x stronger out of nowhere compared to the beginning.
Kiryu was nerfed before the fight with Aizawa
@Andrew also we did see Aizawa be a fucking beast on the coliseum problem is that we bash is head in with Saejima right after so that scene loses its impact
As much as I like the side content of Yakuza 5, we have to admit that the story tried to cram so much shit to make it all connect to the characters. Makes it feel like they’re taking the piss and somewhat had the balls to mention it with Aizawa’s reveal lacking development.
They clearly didn't have enough time so they just conveniently pull some bullshit out their asses for the ending to wrap it all up. Also there are lots of characters that are introduced early on but just tossed to the side or never mentioned again in the story. The woman living with Kiryu for example (forgot her name, because she's clearly that forgettable lol).
They shot themselves in the foot with such a big scope in terms of story. But the gameplay managed to pull the game back a lot, thankfully.
Nah the story actually doesn’t have any plot holes or anything when you look back at it, and is legitimately like a 9/10 or 10/10 in the end
@@linhza501 but nothing was really an asspull. Either it was important in the long run or it wasn’t. That girl wasn’t and never seemed like she would be. Aizawa, from the very first cutscene, was made out to be. That’s how the plot is written and makes it legitimately great
I think Kurosawa went in the end like:
"Okay, my plan is screwed, at least my son right now can take over the Tojo, for a little while."
Also, what are you pepople even talking about? 5 has one of the best storylines in the series, and you can pretty much follow it! I can't even count how many times i was confused while playing 4, especially when it was finale, but here... Everything was actually decent.
"Dreams/Yume are retarted theme."
Did you even followed the story? This theme involves every character and was played out actually pretty good, and it didn't felt "forced", like everyone says.
I think Kurosawa's whole thing was that he went through hell to claw his way to the top, then he got diagnosed with terminal illness and spun into an existential crisis wondering what it was all for.
Y5 shoves its themes in your face really hard, "Dreams" and "Legacy". The idea that a dream is something that can be passed from person to person. Kurosawa comes with his whole plan after learning he's about to die because he feels like if he has a dream to pass on to his son then his life won't have been meaningless.
There's obvious parallels between Kurosawa's goals and Mirei Park trying to pass on her dream to Haruka, plus Kiryu working hard to protect the orphanage and give the kids there a better life than he had. All these characters find meaning in life by making sacrifices to pass their dreams onto a new generation.
I think Kiryu probably realized this parallel at the end too once he learned Kurosawa's true goals. I think he can relate to Kurosawa and he's trying to honor him by actually giving his son a real fight and a chance to overcome and succeed. It's obvious that Kiryu isn't super angry in this fight.
Aizawa never really knew his dad and doesn't really understand his dream, but he's willing to rise up to the challenge since the opportunity presented itself.
That's all my interpretation at least.
@Arg neel idk, maybe he didn't fight properly because of the fact that Kurosawa told him that Haruka can get pretty much killed?
Oh, and the last time Kiryu heard of aizawa in Y5 is that matsunaga killed him.
*morinaga but yeah now that you mention it, it's very poorly thought out
@@toaletpapir6837 not really, I think y’all are getting some events confused. The writing itself surprisingly has no plot holes lol
"Dad said it was my turn on the xbox."
Just beat this an hour ago. The story fell apart near the end, but I still loved the game.
ngl rocking aizawa's shit was so much fun
This boss fight:
"Shhh, just let it happen..."
When you say "nandato" once and they keep using it in all games
Aizawa's story is one of those ambitious youngsters within the Tojo Clan Kiryu needs to discipline to let them realize their dream is not a joke walk in the park.
Heh, Park. Like the character lol
The theme, in case it wasn't picked up on the totally subtle theme this time was *Dreams* , and passing them onto other people. This guy picked up his Sworn Brother's dream and had it forced on him by others like his father. A charismatic replacement for Kiryu that might actually be able to control both the Omi and Tojo, but Aizawa doesn't care much for the "Dream" others have pushed onto him, but he's also lost so much to fulfill it he can't stop.
There.
YUME YUME YUME YUME YUME
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 60 hours of "Yume"
I'm *_really_* thankful for the chances to play Haruka's rhythm games in this one, it *dragged*
Picked up his sworn brother's dream? Didn't he say he killed Morinaga?
@@MugdhaMahdiShams No, it isn't actually made clear *who* killed Morinaga, but at that point Morinaga had pissed off so many people it's anyone's game though I'd put money on Kurosawa - Aizawa's father who pretended to be the detective and who was orchestrating the *whole damn thing*
Maybe the guy who hates BIG DAMN HEROS would _not be pleased_ with one of his subordinates chickening out - especially by acting like a BIG DAMN HERO to save his "Bro".
@@KaiTenSatsuma I'm pretty sure Aizawa said something to the effect of killing Morinaga himself before the fight with Kiryu.
Aizawa: "I'm not really sure myself!"
Aizawa behind the scene: "Wait! You mean you just put me into the final boss for *NO REASON*, director?"
Ofc the guy who already got his ass beat by two of the protagonists is worthy of being the final boss of the game
Man, I played almost the entire series just a few months ago and while I can remember almost everything in the other games, 5 is just gone from my memory - aside from my hatred for the idol segment, that is. What a contrived, melodramatic mess of a story that game has. Even by Yakuza standards, this goes waaay overboard.
Yeah, I remember back when 5 was first coming out, so many people were trying to get people to play it.
I'm so glad I didn't listen to them. If Yakuza 5 had been my first Yakuza game, I'd have written off the entire franchise forever.
Imagine not liking the idol segment
@@mangopie7602 Listen, I get that people love Haruka and Japanese pop culture and all, but that segment had no chance with me to begin with, given how contrived its entire existence was - it came out of absolutely nowhere and went absolutely nowhere.
Not to mention I remember its plot was predicated on liking one of the most unlikeable, disfunctional characters I have ever seen. ^^
Also, as a rhythm game it's just not my preferred style of music and also not my preferred style of gameplay.
I get the appeal of the fact that it's so out there for this series and I wouldn't begrudge anyone enjoying an odd thing for being odd, but the idol industry in specific just grosses me the hell out.
@@HansAlRachid i do agree that most parts of the idol industry seemed off for me
Then goes on to be one of the best most intense fights in the entire series, like a reversed Shibusawa fight
Even though the story ate so much shit in this game. The fighting heavily carried it. Love 5s combat so much.
I mean Aizawas monologue is one of the best in the whole series
Honestly, if it was Morinaga, it would've been much better
Man I love this series beat 3-5 in just 2 months.
Doing the same here, what’s your favorite and least favorite games so far? I’d probably say 0, 4, and 5 are my favorites for their story, and probably 2 or 3 are great but my least favorites cause of weird pacing on their stories