I think I have watched your videos 10x over and this is no exception. Like Tao, the more you repeat it the more knowledge unfolds. With each reiteration, I find more kernels of knowledge and seeds of wisdom. I’m having so much success, plus the only plastic I have used and thrown away were a few solo cups for agar. So much respect and so many thanks for helping me to bountiful at home mycological adventures. Next up is lions mane.
Well done! PS if you scoop out the sunflower seeds that float to the top when soaking, let them dry a bit, then toss them in the yard for the Squirrels!
Thats exactly what I was going to say. "Good. I can put them in my squirrel feeder." Lol So they do float to the top? That will make it a lot easier. Thanks 👍
Willy Myco had a good video about why millet from wild bird seed is best grain. very small lots of inoculation points, small centers reduce chances of internal contamination. Willy suggested skimming off the majority of the sunflower seeds though.
From what I've read it really doesn't matter if you remove the sunflower seeds or not, the reason people do is for cosmetic reasons and mycelium doesn't really grow on the seeds to to a small degree they slow down growth. But it's not a huge deal like willy makes it out to be.
@@jakelooter5139 Willy Myco steals other people's teks and has zero credibility. He's a laughing stock on the Shroomery and other reputable community sites.
Hi Philly! Love your videos! I have a question: 7:17 why do you use unmodified lids without filters? What is the advantage of it except convenience? Thank you
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter, But how are they inoculated without an injection port? Looks like a still air box or flow hood are a must for this tek.
I've tried a few alternatives if you don't have the space, cheese cloth your grains and microwave it for 5 minutes. Then let it sit out. It will steam out all your excess moisture.
So close to my first harvest & I Trich'd out. Determined to make it work though & I was prepared for this, gonna give bird seed a try for my upcoming G2G transfer (:
...for you bird lovers like myself, any incidental WBS leftover is greatly appreciated by our furry feathered friends especially during these cold snaps.
I've done both methods of hydrating the WBS and I wasn't totally happy with the results until the instant pot method. Perfection with the perfect moisture content without any spilt grains. I use a window screen with a fan to remove all the surface moisture from the WBS. I do enjoy your video's.
@@donnyjuan7532I start the process of really cleaning the WBS and adding one tbsp of gypsum with hot tap water to the instant pot too just above the seeds. My instant pot has three levels of Keep Warm and any setting will work for this process. Because you are checking the al dente, mouth feel of the grains. You don't want the WPS to be too hard when you bite into the seeds or you don't want mush either. After practice you will find the perfect point in stopping the cooking process. (just like making pasta) I have a window screen frame that I made to support the weight of the wet seeds and I have it elevated just enought (2 inches) so that a 24 inch box fan will circulate the air above and below the seeds, and I keep the fan on it's lowest setting and rotate the screen (front to back) every few minutes to ensure that all the seeds surface is being dried. When I can pick up a hand full of seeds and they don't stick to my hand when I released them, then it's time to place in your jars. I prefer the pint size, because the mycelium will fully colorize before the top layer of seeds in the jar will dry out.
@@AviatorDave Thank you very much good Sir! I will definitely be trying your specific method next time around! It doesnt really seem to have hindered the process but when I boiled my WBS too many grains had burst it was just sticky and made me think the seed was still wet after a full day of drying with a box fan. BTW soon I will be experimenting with electirical apparatus to stimulate mycelial growth based on an episode of japanology on mushrooms that i had seen just figured i would mention if you might be interested in checking it out.. Thank you again for responding!
I know this is from 3 years ago but I figured there's still a chance you could answer. But do you add one tablespoon of gypsum no matter how much WBS you put in the instant pot? And you didn't say what setting of keep warm that you use. I know you said you could use any one but just curious which one that you use?
@@jennak.8541 Time does fly by; it feels like yesterday that I was using the instant pot to process the WBS. I did use a tablespoon of gypsum, and it was the lowest setting for keep warm function to bring the WBS to perfect moisture content. I loved the results of using the instant pot, but the con was that it took too much time to complete the whole process, so I turned to during the Mossy Creek Mushrooms (Quick Tips: Grain Spawn Too Wet) trek which gives the same results. If you use Mason jars for sterilization of the grain don't let the straw pellets touch the glass during the cooking process, (I use chopsticks to place the pellets about a half inch from the bottom of the jar and in the middle of the grain). I shake the jars as soon as the as soon as its sterilization process has been completed. I shake the jars about every 30 minutes until the straw has dispersed throughout the container to my liking. I'm sorry for taken so long to reply but I've been overseas taken care of my home in Japan and the duck farm in the Philippines. I promise to be more responsive in the future.
Wats up Mr Philly. Another good video my friend. If anyone’s reading this spend the money and get the lids used in this video. It makes an already monotonous and tedious task a lot more bearable. An Herb drying rack works great for steam drying I also use fans to speed things up.
Hey ! Thanks for this vidéo as always. Just a question 😊 Could i do the same thing with popcorn ? After soaking the popcorn for about 24 hours, how long should i simmer it ?
only ever used wbs. I never get twice the amount though with them. usually just a little more than i put in. it still colonizes fine albeit a bit slowly.
I notice that the soak and boil method seems to have gone out of favor. There is a reason we soak first, or back in my day; the process of soaking allows the endo-spores to germinate; cellular growth is much easier to kill than spores.
I agree with the "Soak and Boil method". Wouldn't pressure cooking the grains after soaking still kill those endo-spores or any growth from them? I wonder if the use of a pressure cooker used more often these days is why it's not favored. Anyhow have a good day sir.
@@TheTubejunky Well, boil is to get the right water content in the grains. Im told it can take up to 5 days at room temp for whole corn kernels to reach full hydration. The boil can bring this down to an hour. Commercial Mushroom farms dont use PCs at least not for grain spawn/bulk sub. They use industrial steam pasturization units. Pasturization is preferred, if you have the time. Because, the mycelium are a symbiotic species and thrive best when certain other benificial bacteria are present. One of the key steps to getting clean pasturization runs of grain spawn is to soak first. Because, atmospheric pressure affects boiling point and some grains are more clean than others, the soak and boil method was developed to standardize that 60min@15psi will yield the desired result.
@@geeguh6638 It really isnt critical to soak first. You can just boil/ half cook and sterilze the shit out of it @15psi (250F) for 3 hrs at most, ever. As long as the moisture in the spawn is right, and the PC doesnt run dry. The grain spawn you choose makes a difference. Anything intended for human comsumption is usually UV sterlized in the packaging. Grains meant for livestock are not and require deeper more thurough sterilzation. It is generally considered better to pasturize bulk sub @170 for at least 2 hrs. Allowing some of the beneficial symbiotic organzisms a chance to coexist. This is where soaking is more important.
Hello! So quick clarification. I'm probably reading into it a bit much, but felt a little ambiguous in my head. So either way you're going to soak them for the 8ish hours. After that, your boiling wasn't really necessary, right? It was strictly to get them hot to assist with the drying process? So I take it you aren't worried about overhydrating them? I'm planning to move on to WBS instead of always buying pre made grain and want to make sure I'm starting out right. Great videos!
And also is this a cake? I’ve heard of so do I have to add this to the soiley stuff?? After the mycelium has grown or does the entire grow take place on the bird seed?
Ive used wbs with cracked corn on it and it worked. It sucks though. It turns into a starchy mess and tends to.clump up n all .. I try to get it without. Also sunflower seeds wont hurt obviously get floaters out.. Itll.colonize fine on sunflower seeds as well
I've been reading old forums and some sites insusting that sunfliwer seeds will cause contamination, but this makes no sense. If you are pressure cooking them into sterility with everything else, where is the contamination supposed to be coming from? I think this might be "bro science". Sounds plausible, so hobbyist don't put it to the test. If its not true, a whole lot of people are wasting a whole lot of time, because they read it on the interwebs.
@phillygoldenteacher do I need to double sterilization time if I'm using a canner not a pressure cooker?? Thanks for all you do for the 🍄 community 🍄💜🙏🏜
Hey PGT awesome videos i love how clear and to the point they all are! I was recently looking for your video on harvesting and flushing but i can't seem to find it. Was it taken down?
Hi...love your channel!!! First time doing soak and 5 min boil...any concern with th little amount of sand/ dirt left in birdseed? Used to do 3-5 min boil x 3 with lots of rinsing..too much time! Thanks for all u do!!!
Just watched the brown rice tek , didn't see you mention drying the rice unless I missed it, I assume you let the rice dry ?? I've never tried growing mushrooms but studying up.
It's crazy that sunflower seeds don't cause you problems. I used to grow sunflower micro greens and they would get mold on them was more often than other verities.
Tried your bird seed TEK and the results are amazing compared to oats! Inoculated May 8th and the spawn jar is ~50% colonized already! Thank you for your awesome videos!
Crazy ass birds, man. Had one fuck with me like that when I was younger. Was just out shooting photos at this nature place. Probably would’ve been a great place to hunt for mushrooms.
Ok Mr. PGT, I’ve watched this video 4 times now to make sure I don’t mess up my first WBS tek. I’ve busted out laughing at that kid getting chased by the bird every time 🤣😂
Am I the only one who feels like I am almost meditating when I watch your videos? Great stuff thank you!
Yeah, almost ASMR voicing and chill humor and info at the same time
sounds like someone is mumbling the whole video lol
The intro already is worth a like dude.
i love how mono tone his voice is after the intro
Gotta watch out for them magpies
i know i hit like as soon as i started giggling watching that. 😂
I was gonna type this 😂
I think I have watched your videos 10x over and this is no exception.
Like Tao, the more you repeat it the more knowledge unfolds. With each reiteration, I find more kernels of knowledge and seeds of wisdom.
I’m having so much success, plus the only plastic I have used and thrown away were a few solo cups for agar. So much respect and so many thanks for helping me to bountiful at home mycological adventures. Next up is lions mane.
Well done! PS if you scoop out the sunflower seeds that float to the top when soaking, let them dry a bit, then toss them in the yard for the Squirrels!
This is exactly what I do lol.
Thats exactly what I was going to say. "Good. I can put them in my squirrel feeder." Lol
So they do float to the top? That will make it a lot easier. Thanks 👍
Amazing timing, I was literally researching this yesterday!
I was literally searching for this right now !
I was literally gonna be researching this in a couple of days!
Wooohoooo PGT and coffee in the morning!!! Thank you Sensei!!
Thanks for reminding me to drink coffee I have Reishi to put to agar!
I love this channel ❤
who else here is learning as much as possible about mushrooms. this dude is awesome, one good thing to come from covid.
Ok.
Dawg your videos are the BEST for shrooms. Seriously can't thank you enough
Thanks for this one man, I'm inoculating my second lot of wild bird seed tek tonight, it's been my most successful grow yet,
Willy Myco had a good video about why millet from wild bird seed is best grain. very small lots of inoculation points, small centers reduce chances of internal contamination. Willy suggested skimming off the majority of the sunflower seeds though.
From what I've read it really doesn't matter if you remove the sunflower seeds or not, the reason people do is for cosmetic reasons and mycelium doesn't really grow on the seeds to to a small degree they slow down growth. But it's not a huge deal like willy makes it out to be.
@@Lopeys2446 the issue he mentions and that is true is they can pop and expel a fatty substance that can be a contam issue....
@@jakelooter5139 Willy Myco steals other people's teks and has zero credibility. He's a laughing stock on the Shroomery and other reputable community sites.
I like taking the sunflower seeds out an duping them in the yard they are gone in a day the kids love seeing all the critters in the yard
You have a great way of keeping info simple but very effective. Your videos have been a useful reference in my own projects.👍
By far one of the most informative and good channel ive dubbed to!
Opening clip - Straya! You are my hero PGT, as generous as mycelium with your knowledge and skills. Thank you.
I’ve been waiting for this one!!
We’ve been waiting for YOU. Damn mami
@@PaulManningg 🤦♂️
@@PaulManningg creepy dude
Hi Philly! Love your videos! I have a question: 7:17 why do you use unmodified lids without filters? What is the advantage of it except convenience? Thank you
There is no need for a filter, a fingertight lid provides enough oxygen for the mycelium.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter, But how are they inoculated without an injection port? Looks like a still air box or flow hood are a must for this tek.
@@robb.5035 Yeah a SAB works great for Agar to grain transfer or for LC so no need for the port. The port is nice tho for sure.
I am growing some oyster mushrooms again, and your videos are what I go to if my notes confuse me.
Thank you, I truly appreciate your efforts.
I picked up 2 - 40 lb bags of WBS off of FB marketplace for free, good timing PGT !!
Thanks Sensei for another great video. Join the discord everyone.
What's discord?
try cheese cloth over cooling racks or any size screen
I've tried a few alternatives if you don't have the space, cheese cloth your grains and microwave it for 5 minutes. Then let it sit out. It will steam out all your excess moisture.
? huh?
You had me with the intro. Not only was this whole video informative but very entertaining.
You can also use your boiled grain water as LC broth.
Would you have a recipe that uses the water in an LC broth dear sir ?
lc broth and sugar
water
Hey bro thanks so much for posting even though youtube is being just demolishing the mushie community.
Thanks for this. Theres a ton of "teks" for WBS this was the most straight forward
Looks like soaking separates the sunflowers....floaters. Yeah I like sunflower seeds. Thank you
Can you do this as a steam bath as well without having to pressure cook?
No gypsum added?
gypsum not needed
PGT is the man. Keeps it 100
I have an old bag of birdseed, but it has added nutritions. I wonder if that would work. 🤔
Dude that opening video has me crying laughing at 8:52 am
Intro was lit 🔥🔥 you explain the process very well without over talking. I made perfect Agar dishes. You the GOAT
Are you going to do an LC video anytime in the future?
I cannot believe I stumbled across such an incredible channel
well believe it motherfucker...
I like your mushroom oven mits
Window screen is really creative!
Looking forward to it PGT Sensei. Us real humans like your vids. We won't let the TH-cam bots take you down!
Been doing WBS tech now for a few months and lov it can't wait to see if there a difference in the way it's done Thank You
How large are the ball Maison Jar glasses that you normally use?
So close to my first harvest & I Trich'd out. Determined to make it work though & I was prepared for this, gonna give bird seed a try for my upcoming G2G transfer (:
How did you prepare your substrate for your first harvest? I hope that I can help you because I hate the forest green also.
You gotta let grains steep to germinate the endospores.
...for you bird lovers like myself, any incidental WBS leftover is greatly appreciated by our furry feathered friends especially during these cold snaps.
I’ll definitely feed some birdies for you 🤙🏽
For sure
I've done both methods of hydrating the WBS and I wasn't totally happy with the results until the instant pot method. Perfection with the perfect moisture content without any spilt grains. I use a window screen with a fan to remove all the surface moisture from the WBS. I do enjoy your video's.
can you elaborate a little more please how did you use the insant pot to achieve perfect moisture content/?
@@donnyjuan7532I start the process of really cleaning the WBS and adding one tbsp of gypsum with hot tap water to the instant pot too just above the seeds. My instant pot has three levels of Keep Warm and any setting will work for this process. Because you are checking the al dente, mouth feel of the grains. You don't want the WPS to be too hard when you bite into the seeds or you don't want mush either. After practice you will find the perfect point in stopping the cooking process. (just like making pasta) I have a window screen frame that I made to support the weight of the wet seeds and I have it elevated just enought (2 inches) so that a 24 inch box fan will circulate the air above and below the seeds, and I keep the fan on it's lowest setting and rotate the screen (front to back) every few minutes to ensure that all the seeds surface is being dried. When I can pick up a hand full of seeds and they don't stick to my hand when I released them, then it's time to place in your jars. I prefer the pint size, because the mycelium will fully colorize before the top layer of seeds in the jar will dry out.
@@AviatorDave Thank you very much good Sir! I will definitely be trying your specific method next time around! It doesnt really seem to have hindered the process but when I boiled my WBS too many grains had burst it was just sticky and made me think the seed was still wet after a full day of drying with a box fan. BTW soon I will be experimenting with electirical apparatus to stimulate mycelial growth based on an episode of japanology on mushrooms that i had seen just figured i would mention if you might be interested in checking it out.. Thank you again for responding!
I know this is from 3 years ago but I figured there's still a chance you could answer.
But do you add one tablespoon of gypsum no matter how much WBS you put in the instant pot?
And you didn't say what setting of keep warm that you use. I know you said you could use any one but just curious which one that you use?
@@jennak.8541 Time does fly by; it feels like yesterday that I was using the instant pot to process the WBS.
I did use a tablespoon of gypsum, and it was the lowest setting for keep warm function to bring the WBS to perfect moisture content.
I loved the results of using the instant pot, but the con was that it took too much time to complete the whole process, so I turned to during the Mossy Creek Mushrooms (Quick Tips: Grain Spawn Too Wet) trek which gives the same results.
If you use Mason jars for sterilization of the grain don't let the straw pellets touch the glass during the cooking process, (I use chopsticks to place the pellets about a half inch from the bottom of the jar and in the middle of the grain).
I shake the jars as soon as the as soon as its sterilization process has been completed. I shake the jars about every 30 minutes until the straw has dispersed throughout the container to my liking.
I'm sorry for taken so long to reply but I've been overseas taken care of my home in Japan and the duck farm in the Philippines.
I promise to be more responsive in the future.
I keep coming back to this video for the intro, it cracks me up everytime
Cant wait, thanks for the amazing videos!
Wats up Mr Philly. Another good video my friend. If anyone’s reading this spend the money and get the lids used in this video. It makes an already monotonous and tedious task a lot more bearable. An Herb drying rack works great for steam drying I also use fans to speed things up.
5:57 as soon as it cut i started lmfao i love it
Thank you Sensei 🙏🏾
With the fan aren’t you worried about contamination?
I keep seeing and reading conflicting things. Some people say only simmer on stove top and others say boil.. I am unsure which to do now lol.
Haha I was just at tractor supply and thought hmmm wonder if it's possible an check out the algorithm, nice
Hey ! Thanks for this vidéo as always.
Just a question 😊
Could i do the same thing with popcorn ?
After soaking the popcorn for about 24 hours, how long should i simmer it ?
only ever used wbs. I never get twice the amount though with them. usually just a little more than i put in. it still colonizes fine albeit a bit slowly.
Could these be stored for say a week before inoculating?
Videos keep getting better! Keep it up 👍
WBS is my fav substrate to grow with as well!
🐦 🦅 tek awesome!!!!! Love your vids brother!! 🍄
I notice that the soak and boil method seems to have gone out of favor. There is a reason we soak first, or back in my day; the process of soaking allows the endo-spores to germinate; cellular growth is much easier to kill than spores.
I agree with the "Soak and Boil method".
Wouldn't pressure cooking the grains after soaking still kill those endo-spores or any growth from them?
I wonder if the use of a pressure cooker used more often these days is why it's not favored.
Anyhow have a good day sir.
@@TheTubejunky
Well, boil is to get the right water content in the grains. Im told it can take up to 5 days at room temp for whole corn kernels to reach full hydration. The boil can bring this down to an hour.
Commercial Mushroom farms dont use PCs at least not for grain spawn/bulk sub. They use industrial steam pasturization units. Pasturization is preferred, if you have the time. Because, the mycelium are a symbiotic species and thrive best when certain other benificial bacteria are present. One of the key steps to getting clean pasturization runs of grain spawn is to soak first.
Because, atmospheric pressure affects boiling point and some grains are more clean than others, the soak and boil method was developed to standardize that 60min@15psi will yield the desired result.
@@AaronAlso so are you saying to soak or not to? Are you talking about the soaking overnight vs boiling, which is preferred ?
@@geeguh6638
It really isnt critical to soak first. You can just boil/ half cook and sterilze the shit out of it @15psi (250F) for 3 hrs at most, ever. As long as the moisture in the spawn is right, and the PC doesnt run dry. The grain spawn you choose makes a difference. Anything intended for human comsumption is usually UV sterlized in the packaging. Grains meant for livestock are not and require deeper more thurough sterilzation. It is generally considered better to pasturize bulk sub @170 for at least 2 hrs. Allowing some of the beneficial symbiotic organzisms a chance to coexist. This is where soaking is more important.
Should there be an injection port and filter on the lid?
Dude keeping the sunflower seeds in is a for sure way to get contamination.
Never had an issue
I love your thumbnail dude
Hello! So quick clarification. I'm probably reading into it a bit much, but felt a little ambiguous in my head. So either way you're going to soak them for the 8ish hours. After that, your boiling wasn't really necessary, right? It was strictly to get them hot to assist with the drying process? So I take it you aren't worried about overhydrating them? I'm planning to move on to WBS instead of always buying pre made grain and want to make sure I'm starting out right. Great videos!
Works great, after 3 days I've got great micelium growth already, thanks Sifu
Fantastic video and great information
First timer here.
Can you grow golden teacher spores on birdseed as I’ve read that some spores grow on different surfaces
And also is this a cake? I’ve heard of so do I have to add this to the soiley stuff?? After the mycelium has grown or does the entire grow take place on the bird seed?
Ive used wbs with cracked corn on it and it worked. It sucks though. It turns into a starchy mess and tends to.clump up n all
.. I try to get it without. Also sunflower seeds wont hurt obviously get floaters out.. Itll.colonize fine on sunflower seeds as well
I've been reading old forums and some sites insusting that sunfliwer seeds will cause contamination, but this makes no sense. If you are pressure cooking them into sterility with everything else, where is the contamination supposed to be coming from? I think this might be "bro science". Sounds plausible, so hobbyist don't put it to the test. If its not true, a whole lot of people are wasting a whole lot of time, because they read it on the interwebs.
@phillygoldenteacher do I need to double sterilization time if I'm using a canner not a pressure cooker?? Thanks for all you do for the 🍄 community
🍄💜🙏🏜
Clifford Spring
Hey PGT awesome videos i love how clear and to the point they all are! I was recently looking for your video on harvesting and flushing but i can't seem to find it. Was it taken down?
Hi...love your channel!!! First time doing soak and 5 min boil...any concern with th little amount of sand/ dirt left in birdseed? Used to do 3-5 min boil x 3 with lots of rinsing..too much time! Thanks for all u do!!!
Thank you so much for being here! 🙏
I love your intros Philly Sensei
cant wait! im almost out of my 50lb grain bag!
i went to tractor supply and got some lol
think im gonna boil it and let it dry since he soaks overnight, boils and drys anyways thank u sensei!
Thank you, PGT! I was looking forward to this one. 👍🏻
So boil 30 minutes from the time you put them in the pot or 30 minutes once it starts to boil?
Where is your video o using the pressure cooker I'm pretty sure I have the same one and am nervous about using it lol
Does overnight soak work with rice?
Just watched the brown rice tek , didn't see you mention drying the rice unless I missed it, I assume you let the rice dry ?? I've never tried growing mushrooms but studying up.
the bird attacking the scooter kid is epic lol
Hehehe Australian magpies are dangerous:)
Do a spore swab tek because I don’t understand how people do it especially on strains that you need to do that with like APE
usually, you swab onto agar.
@@PeterHollingshead how many agar dishes can you do with one swab?
Why not just clone tissue to LC?
*or agar
Great info, well said... ready to start using WBS.
Is it absolutely necessary to pressure cook grains before inoculation ?
Yes, grains are dirty usually. You want to pressure sterilized to kill off any endospores and germs.
It's crazy that sunflower seeds don't cause you problems. I used to grow sunflower micro greens and they would get mold on them was more often than other verities.
the PC is sterilizing pretty thoroughly
Dose chlorine in the city water slow things down?
Love the intro... The rest of it was good too
😁🙏
What size container can a quart jar spawn? I use 6 qt bins and half pint jars because I only have a small PC
badass oven mitts
If the WBS has cracked corn is that a no no?
how long can you store these ?
So the unmodded lid tek you just tighten the jar then slightly loosen the jar lid for FAE ?
Tried your bird seed TEK and the results are amazing compared to oats! Inoculated May 8th and the spawn jar is ~50% colonized already! Thank you for your awesome videos!
Crazy ass birds, man. Had one fuck with me like that when I was younger. Was just out shooting photos at this nature place. Probably would’ve been a great place to hunt for mushrooms.
Just bought some WBS I didnt know phillygolden had a WBS video awesome. My plans tonight have changed.
@mycojims on IG recommended and guided me for my microdosing journey hit them up they also ship and grow shrooms and all psychedelics products.
Should I boil the water before soaking?
Thanks
i use hairdryer to dry grains haha . Works
That's how we roll in Aus in spring when they have baby's be careful they will fuck you up people have lost eyes and all sorts🤣🤣🤣
I haven't been able to find the video where you show the boil method. Could you please share the link? Thanks!
Ok Mr. PGT, I’ve watched this video 4 times now to make sure I don’t mess up my first WBS tek. I’ve busted out laughing at that kid getting chased by the bird every time 🤣😂
😂🍄
Could you just use white millet?
When soaking the birdseed. Do you start off with warm water hot water or cold?
Great video! Do the greens have to be pressure cooked? Or can they be stove sterilized like popcorn and rice?
greens are best raw in salads
You are the master of all TEK the shroomery and everyone in
The universe thanks you.
Bless ya my man bless ya and good luck.