How Combat Evolved was downgraded on MCC | How the original is being lost to time (THEY FIXED IT)

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  • @zelefant1482
    @zelefant1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1003

    They're finally fixing this, it makes me so happy

    • @Jdog47892
      @Jdog47892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeeee

    • @kamaboko117
      @kamaboko117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      source?

    • @PsychoKrueger
      @PsychoKrueger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The day that patch drops will be glorious !

    • @CentralBauer
      @CentralBauer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The update has already been released or is it necessary to wait? Just today I started halo ce in the MCC after many years and seeing this I prefer to wait for the game to look like I remember it.

    • @NoStringsAttachedPrd
      @NoStringsAttachedPrd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@CentralBauer Not yet, it's only just been announced in that link that they're doing some stuff. Sounds like it'll be in the next update with Season 7

  • @shivalah
    @shivalah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2432

    "Cortana doesn't change Colour when she is angry." I knew something was very wrong with this scene! I couldn't point my finger on it.

    • @matthewcarter549
      @matthewcarter549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      so glad someone else noticed

    • @user-tm3fz7qx3s
      @user-tm3fz7qx3s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @jake3523
      @jake3523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@Hitly96 thanks, I knew something was wrong with his comment, but I couldn't elephant my finger on it.

    • @warreng675
      @warreng675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah put

    • @skullunatorofficial2547
      @skullunatorofficial2547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In my case, the mission where you save keys and you see the shield on the hanger bay doors, I noticed something wasn't right about that either.

  • @raiderbeast8357
    @raiderbeast8357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2607

    Weird how Gearbox messing up just one line of code can cause so many issu- *Flashbacks to Aliens Colonial Marines* Oh god no

    • @huytungnguyen119
      @huytungnguyen119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Raiderbeast 83 That time when Gearbox messed up 1 code and made the AI freakin dumb, modders even fixed that code and made the game a little bit better.

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Raiderbeast 83 Some guy at Gearbox probably screamed "OH GOD IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN!" after learning THAT fuck up.

    • @Schytheron
      @Schytheron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Gearbox literally doesn't know how to code anything besides Borderlands.
      VERSATILITY 0

    • @BullworthGraduate
      @BullworthGraduate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Schytheron - They knew how to code _Brothers In Arms_ back when they made those games.

    • @aces5thalternateaccount464
      @aces5thalternateaccount464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I loved Aliens: Colonial Marines.

  • @BadVideoWatcher1
    @BadVideoWatcher1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2961

    Bungie: "What if you miss?"
    Gearbox: "I won't."
    Gearbox: *Misses*

    • @theendofit
      @theendofit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Can you really call a massive success a miss? Lol

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@theendofit The PC version wasn't a massive success, did you even watch the video?

    • @theendofit
      @theendofit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@LordVader1094 it's still heavly being played today and sold very well. It was also very stable (it does not crash easily) for a port. So much so that's the main reason it was used for the anaversary version. Yes it looks worse but it was still a success by all actuall measurable standards.

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@theendofit Being played often because it's the only version available does not mean it was a success on a technical level. It literally explains in the video that the only reason it's used in the anniversary version is because it has working online multiplayer. So no, it's not a success by all actual measurable standards. It succeeded in one thing and one thing only: workable multiplayer. In all other ways, it fails.

    • @theendofit
      @theendofit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@LordVader1094 ok whell im pretty sure every game company ever would be happy to have fails like halo ce as it still sold amazingly and is still being played despite there being 2 billion other games that pepole could be playing yet still has enough fans that think its worth playing.
      if it was truly as bad as you are making it out to be most pepole would have left it. its still great its just not as great as it could have been. all things considered this are all minor issues in the long run.
      and no the reason they used the ce verison over the orginal was not because of the multiplayer.
      the main reason why is becuase the main work of porting it onto other hardware was already done they had made it so it could more easily be run on anything. the xbox orginal verison could only run on an xbox. why start from scratch and have to do a massive amount of work just to try to re due whats already done. you might as well remake the game if thats your mentality.
      second while the orginal did not have online it had system link wich is reltivly easy to turn into an online mode all the ground work for making halo online was in there at launch as they planed it to be online but had to cut it late as xbox live was no where near ready. so it would not be a factor in decideding witch version to build off of.

  • @InterDimensionalLizard
    @InterDimensionalLizard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2055

    Looks like this didn't get fixed for the PC version of MCC.
    Edit: Or perhaps it did!

    • @shredgordon3240
      @shredgordon3240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Inter-dimensional Lizard I think the shields were fixed

    • @javierititin
      @javierititin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@shredgordon3240 They're not :(

    • @dxtrum
      @dxtrum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      And it got much much worse

    • @sean8102
      @sean8102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @Barricade Bonecrusher Amen. The dynamic soundtrack mixing engine is fucked. It's super noticeable, and I really hope it gets fixed. Halo's music is so iconic and the looping/mixing is awful on PC.

    • @TheMagicQsGaming
      @TheMagicQsGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @Barricade Bonecrusher Or the audio of some guns holding/looping.

  • @cheshireshadow518
    @cheshireshadow518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +715

    Wait Cortana is supposed to change color in that cutscene???????? jesus I've literally lived my entire Combat Evolved life as a lie

    • @SebReaperGaming
      @SebReaperGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      download the Refined mod, it's fixed. she pulses green and blue

    • @idkwmytuni
      @idkwmytuni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The original Halo is also like 10 bucks on Xbox

    • @hypershadw
      @hypershadw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      There's also supposed to be red and purple in it though not just green and blue... It isn't fully fixed yet

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow

    • @Reveticate
      @Reveticate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Knowing that in the books her holographic projection changes color based on her core temperature (her mood) I would say that this was a deticated decision.

  • @Joke65_
    @Joke65_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2724

    It's understandable that 343 would use a version that supported online play, but it's a tragedy that it means the original game is slowly fading away.

    • @LateNightHalo
      @LateNightHalo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      Joke65 and Friends! When you’re on a limited budget and timescale (which CEA was) I would have made the same choices.
      I can only hope 343 revisits it and restores the original

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I heard that 343 did reach out to the people that made the refined campaign for custom edition most likely just to get ideas on what was needed to be fixed

    • @hollystlocal2242
      @hollystlocal2242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Late Night Gaming OG’s are replicated. Never replaced.

    • @feartheghus
      @feartheghus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The original game has been dead though, and the stuff that can run it is going out.

    • @kohendo447
      @kohendo447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Still got my original ce copy I’ll definitely never forget it

  • @xxgrimriverxx9845
    @xxgrimriverxx9845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1177

    So it's not always true when people say "nostalgia makes you remember things being better than what they were".
    In Halo:CE's case it actually was better then. lol

    • @gabrieldavis1109
      @gabrieldavis1109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      xXGrimRiverXx
      exactly!
      Brings a damn tear to my eye....

    • @sonder006
      @sonder006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Higher Power lol wtf is an upscaler? You mean a TV?

    • @razor_no1
      @razor_no1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The worst thing about this is that I see the differences the whole time, and always pointed out that the original Halo on Xbox was graphically much better than the PC-version. But the "Masterrace" douchbags always laughed and told me that the PC-version looks SO MUCH better! 😏 Well, good to know who was always right!

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sonder006 he's referring to things like the open source scan converter or the framemeister, occasionally takes a low-resolution analog signal and then digitizes and scales the image to an HD resolution.

    • @quarreneverett4767
      @quarreneverett4767 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not necessary the monitor. Usually iys bad setup

  • @michaelpewat
    @michaelpewat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    2:28 Out of all the times to have a missing footage, this really needed one

    • @mrandrossguy9871
      @mrandrossguy9871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Michael Pewatualuk
      I guess just look up X-Box Haloce on Google pics ?

    • @StrikerTheHedgefox
      @StrikerTheHedgefox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Agreed. A huge oversight that dulls the point.

    • @odstkefro3343
      @odstkefro3343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mrandrossguy9871 I know right. Has TH-cam but not chrome would be a wierd excuse.

    • @PresidentSunday
      @PresidentSunday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Laziness.

    • @M0rshu64
      @M0rshu64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PresidentSunday just like gearbox. Huh, maybe that was the point LNG was trying to make

  • @dhoffnun
    @dhoffnun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +684

    They also screwed up the music! The theme is supposed to play during the action sequences of the opening level... not anymore.

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The music overall for the remasters has generally sucked IMO. I at least appreciate that in CE Anniversary I can choose the pretty graphics *and* the old music, unlike Halo 2 in the MCC.

    • @cleanserofnoobs4162
      @cleanserofnoobs4162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The guitar rifts at the end of Truth and Reconciliation Original soundtrack is not the same as the guitar rifts at the end of the remaster original soundtrack Honest Negotiations. Which is too bad, I would've liked to have heard it in it's remastered form.

    • @r4z0r84
      @r4z0r84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you're right Cortana is talking whilst you get the epic music but you only get her talking with generic music

    • @cleanserofnoobs4162
      @cleanserofnoobs4162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Ken narville Apparently so, especially when it comes to wanting a legit discussion without having shitheads like you pop out of the Grinch's asshole.

    • @pacoelchato1877
      @pacoelchato1877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ken narville justifying lazy idiots out to shamelessly steal from you won't get you anywhere.

  • @infinitely5123
    @infinitely5123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1458

    When I laughed at how the classic graphics looked worse than I remembered from childhood, I didn't realize that this was the actual reason. How does Gearbox ruin almost everything they touch?

    • @unapersona100real6
      @unapersona100real6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      idk they just did right borderlands and the hl expansions

    • @RetroFan
      @RetroFan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Cause they suck.

    • @Graywolf_The_45th
      @Graywolf_The_45th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@unapersona100real6 Borderlands is overrated

    • @unapersona100real6
      @unapersona100real6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Graywolf_The_45thwhat about the hl expansions

    • @Graywolf_The_45th
      @Graywolf_The_45th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@unapersona100real6 HL Opposing Force and Blue Shift I actually liked. The HD pack as well I kinda prefer to the vanilla assets in some parts

  • @pbateman4124
    @pbateman4124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2044

    Been playing Halo CE on PC since I was a kid. Never knew about this.
    I've been living a lie.

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      My pc version looks exactly like the original xbox version, don't know where that weird downgrade version came from

    • @yotornadoyo
      @yotornadoyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashleyjohansson230 Do you have the xbox version or how do you know?

    • @biggiecheese5135
      @biggiecheese5135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@ashleyjohansson230 Same dude! I've always played PC, never had an xbox, but my PC version from a decade ago looked exactly like the xbox version he's describing. Granted, I obviously pirated that game, so maybe I got a properly modded version?
      To answer yotornadoyo's question, everything he described in this video about transparent shaders and bumpmapping was non existent in my version, Cortana did change colors when she got angry, the windows and shields all looked fine and turned red when shot at, and I didn't need a flashlight to see the proper details, although on that last bit I'm not 100%% certain my memory is perfect, I may be over remembering how detailed it looked, but in general, these are all new issues that I'm only just hearing about for the first time.

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@yotornadoyo i have both, they look the same except its actually better on pc since i edited the ini to make it 1080p

    • @mattymatt2323
      @mattymatt2323 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you poor poor soul

  • @klenk12
    @klenk12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +979

    I hate you for pointing this out. I was living in blissful ignorance, enjoying mcc, and now ill never be able to unsee it 😢

    • @tinyman1144
      @tinyman1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You know whats weird, is my version of mcc (except the shield walls in truth and rec and the no color change on cortana) looks like the xbox version shown in this video.
      But then a lot of my games are weirdly slightly different to most people's... or maybe I was just way too high to notice those lesser differences. Now I gotta go play halo ce campaign again to "check" :D

    • @xPancakes4lyf
      @xPancakes4lyf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      literally me too!!!

    • @Insanabiliter_In_Linea
      @Insanabiliter_In_Linea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@tinyman1144 Go to Assault on the Control Room and look up at the sky when you're outside, in the original the cliff walls faded to white as they're obscured by the fog, but in MCC and the PC port you can see the tops of them through the fog, making this ugly sort of black line in the sky. Sadly I've never been able to get high enough to not notice it :(

    • @xPancakes4lyf
      @xPancakes4lyf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Egbert Wadman come, join us brother (or sister) join the PC side....

    • @naruto_0988
      @naruto_0988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tinyman1144 gross

  • @Johnny.senpai
    @Johnny.senpai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5677

    Damn never realised how much better the original xbox looked over mcc

    • @ChaseBoogie345
      @ChaseBoogie345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @The homie synaptic has anything definitive from Infinite even been shown yet? Pretty sure it hasn't.

    • @m.infernal
      @m.infernal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's more upsetting to me than you know.

    • @jacobstarr9010
      @jacobstarr9010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      343 plz watch this

    • @Shadowmythx117
      @Shadowmythx117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because it was on a 144p fat tv

  • @PADDLERSOFUSA
    @PADDLERSOFUSA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +749

    I KNEW Cortana changed colors in the original and when I replayed it in the remastered version I had like a Mandela effect thing happen omg

    • @Pathetic_Dart
      @Pathetic_Dart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you sure that's what the "Mandella Effect" really does? Because I really can't remember the exact meaning, but I think that's the wrong expression.

    • @data-gnome
      @data-gnome 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Pathetic_Dart The Mandela effect is (as it originated) a phenomenon where a large amount of people collectively remember something specific in one particular way, contrary to how it actualy was. Its namesake being that a large number of people remembered that Nelson Mandela died in prison, when in fact he didn't. Which is strange, concidering how high profile of a person he was. This in turned birthed crazy theories of people unknowingly getting moved over to a parallel universe where the world ended up different in a slightly minute way, or something of that nature..
      He remembered something in contrary to what reality seemed to be, so he is not wrong in that he thought that he was experiencing the Mandela effect, when in fact the thing he was playing that was marketed as the "definitive" version of that thing, was actually just a mistake made in a poor port of the thing...

    • @Pathetic_Dart
      @Pathetic_Dart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@data-gnome Oh, thanks for the information!

    • @walkermorales337
      @walkermorales337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      VS Voice something similar happened, I remember reading headlines and stories outlining Keanu Reeves suicide, about a troubling personal life and how money and fame couldn’t help him, but he’s obviously alive

    • @BioClone
      @BioClone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pathetic_Dart there is a mandela effect regarding to the mengele effect

  • @Lazy_Desu
    @Lazy_Desu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1653

    Well I learned something new today. When I played again, I just assumed it was due to age. Not poor technical foundation

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Aaron Weir
      I knew this game was more beautiful than it seems in classic graphics, but this... this abomination by comparison makes me sad

    • @chocchip4172
      @chocchip4172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@fanamatakecick97 I never got to play CE, but I always thought "They are just saying it's beautiful because they are drunk on nostalgia" but seeing this comparison...
      Damn.

    • @WaveOfDestiny
      @WaveOfDestiny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The first time i saw the jackal shields on anniversary i knew something wasn't right. They were fascinating and stunning as a kid. I thought they purposedly made them look bad to make you play on anniversary graphics, to make you buy halo 2 anniversary.
      Also on pc you can't see yellow jackals wich are much stronger than the blue ones in certain difficulties.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@chocchip4172 it still doesn't make it a beautiful game. halo ce had terrible, repetitive level design mostly composed of boring copy-paste corridors. Halo 2 looked like a generation leap. It looked miles better and the real time cutscenes were jaw-dropping stuff back then. and quite honestly, it was also a massively better game overall, not just visually.

    • @alqkon
      @alqkon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aaron Weir i thought the same too he blew my mind, I played the original on Xbox 15 Years ago... and the one on Xbox one the master chief collection always looked weird, that it’s so flat and basic and some game from the 1990’s in classic

  • @waltermercado9152
    @waltermercado9152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +514

    "Despite its troubled development" should be Bungie's tagline for all games it creates.

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Walter Mercado
      Troubled development = amazing legendary games, apparently

    • @haydenhyde9395
      @haydenhyde9395 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fanamatakecick97 And also Mighty No. 9

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hayden Hyde ?

    • @haydenhyde9395
      @haydenhyde9395 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fanamatakecick97 Troubled development = extremely not legendary game

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hayden Hyde
      Mighty No. 9 is a game?

  • @staryoshi06
    @staryoshi06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    That side-by-side comparison video sounds like a really good idea.

  • @Will057
    @Will057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    I always wondered why MCC Halo CE seemed off. Well now I know.

    • @kylecaetana2124
      @kylecaetana2124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Facts! I always know it didn't feel or look right... use to play that game all the time.. still do on mcc.. but it don't feel right

    • @DefconFG
      @DefconFG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will This

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kyle Caetana I only ever played it on pc when I was a kid so I literally never even knew until this day! Wtf

    • @samidejong106
      @samidejong106 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it the same in the Xbox 360 version?

    • @nintendonerdjoseph
      @nintendonerdjoseph 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samidejong106 Yes.

  • @WSTBrenden
    @WSTBrenden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Bungie:"Bet you can't stick it"
    Gearbox:"Probably won't"

    • @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5
      @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “What if you miss?”
      “You’re on”

    • @draven4464
      @draven4464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The MCC collection still has more soul than any of those deadass 'Destiny' games. Destiny was a slap in the face to anyone who supported Bungie

    • @bidenswetvagoogoo2001
      @bidenswetvagoogoo2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@draven4464 I still rather a "new" storyline and game by a company that made my childhood better than a souless, downgraded and crappy version made by an incompetent company like 343.
      You gotta admit their mistakes dude, i don´t really know how or why the people that didn´t leave with Bungie decided to take this direction with their own IP.

  • @GoodBoyRamen
    @GoodBoyRamen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1525

    Someone put Halo:CE in every computer in my school’s library and basically nobody knows about it

  • @matthewscottshea
    @matthewscottshea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Reminds me of when Rockstar based the HD version of San Andreas on the inferior mobile version because it was quicker and easier to port. Didn't matter that controls where trash and many visual effects were downgraded.

    • @Youdrongo
      @Youdrongo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @ lol so much for it being restored

    • @MaurickSh
      @MaurickSh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad I bought the PS2 on PS4 port :D

    • @matthewscottshea
      @matthewscottshea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MaurickSh I got that version as well. Controls were never the greatest on the PS2 GTA games, but so much better than the HD port. And unlike the PS2 version on PS3, it runs in 1080. Short of owning the original PC version, that's as good as it gets for SA.

    • @lord_vwphaeton1883
      @lord_vwphaeton1883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey atleast Halo works. It is playable.

    • @lord_vwphaeton1883
      @lord_vwphaeton1883 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Maicol Baay ok nevermind, I'm VERY wrong.

  • @ChachoGSX
    @ChachoGSX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +886

    Bumpmapping: Like on Spongebob, when they go in for a close up.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ren and Stimpy! Spongebob stole that gag!

    • @ChachoGSX
      @ChachoGSX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ren and Stimpy was awesome until they fired the creator.

    • @averyterribleperson5292
      @averyterribleperson5292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@rich1051414 Actually that's been around since the 50s Looney Toons Cartoons. Also Flapjack did it too.

    • @mattmorales4320
      @mattmorales4320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn’t that be more akin to LOD as opposed to bumpmapping?

    • @keypath4389
      @keypath4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattmorales4320 so fun at party huh

  • @BiodegradableYTP
    @BiodegradableYTP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Christ, how does GearBox keep getting work? They really bloody suck.

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Probably because of Borderlands, which is like the only thing they're good at

    • @jamesbarnes5769
      @jamesbarnes5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Why are we still here Just to suffer absolutely love Opposing Force! Possibly my favorite Half-Life back in the day lol

    • @nasty7400
      @nasty7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brothers in arms is good by gearbox

    • @MelonMafia1
      @MelonMafia1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThunderStruck115 Borderlands isn't even that good, the only reason it's famous is because of the "2 billion guns" thing.

    • @ThunderStruck115
      @ThunderStruck115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MelonMafia1 Borderlands is great (OK, maybe not the First game because of How Janky it is). What crack are you smoking?

  • @Memn4rch
    @Memn4rch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1492

    *THEY ARE AWARE AND WORKING ON IT*
    For MCC they use the Gearbox PC-Port code as a base. And this version has A LOT of flaws/bugs/missing when it comes to visual fidelity. Since ~ October 2018, they are diffing the original Xbox PC and MCC Version assets and codes to fix what got lost in translation. It has by no means been forgotten. I'd expect to see the fixes coming when CE is added to the PC MCC version as they are working on making the CustomEdition Maps working in the future, too. They are backporting a lot of stuff.
    *SOURCE*
    (Section called "Old School")
    www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-october-update

    • @mentionethan
      @mentionethan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      This comment needs more attention cos it actually shows that although 343 fucked up with halo 4 and 5 they still do really care

    • @robertgardner4508
      @robertgardner4508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope this is fixed Yuno better be right.

    • @Br0ccolini
      @Br0ccolini 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      they also said they are working on it in the new update and have dug out some old dev kits (under community Q&A)
      www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-june-2019

    • @Life_and_Gaming
      @Life_and_Gaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@mentionethan Halo 4 was dope though, at least narrative wise.

    • @averageperson489
      @averageperson489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean it still kinda sucks real bad but ehh

  • @deepism
    @deepism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    I had no idea
    This is heresy wtf

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Divinatory Cognition "It was a mistake"- Gearbox
      "Nay, it was Heresy!"- The Fans

    • @Zontar82
      @Zontar82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      unfortunately many players didn't cared, they didn't even started halo ce because "itz old lulz lolz rotfl lmao"

    • @Death_Chopper
      @Death_Chopper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Randy Bitchford strikes again

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Hernandez Someone in a certain government correctional facility needs to drag Randy's ass into it.

  • @NeoTeAika
    @NeoTeAika 5 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    Damn.
    I knew about transparency and the glass having broken bump mapping but didn't realize the rest of surfaces were that botched.
    And KEYES! How the fuck did that happen?

    • @Momo02401
      @Momo02401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Everything we've discovered and have been able to infer shows that the PC port was splintered off from a pre-release build of the xbox build. This would explain why some things are missing or different, like keyes textures being different, hanging vines missing in 343GS, the hud textures differing, and elites not dodging when you zoom. They were likely added/changed near the tail-end of the games development. Don't take that as fact through until confirmed by someone who actually worked on the game. We are pretty confident this is the case though.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Daddy Max "BL3 iS An EpIc GaMe StOrE eXclUsIVe"

    • @NTripleOne
      @NTripleOne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Momo02401 I've had this same theory for years - however I don't believe the schism occurred when halo was an xbox game, I believe it happened when halo *became* an xbox game. Halo was *originally* a PC game before it was an xbox game, I believe the gearbox PC port we got isn't actually a port at all, I believe that it's the continuation of the work from the point in time when halo became an xbox title instead of a PC one. I feel it's less of a case that things are broken and more of a case that they're just straight up _unfinished_ .

  • @encephalltl5931
    @encephalltl5931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    I started playing the MCC yesterday. During the first chapter of Combat Evolved I noticed these very flat textures. Most videos only compare the "original" and the remastered only on MCC. Thanks a lot for going the extra mile and get that footage of the original. We used to play with eight guys on four television in a friends parents basement. And when i left their mansion early in the morning with my big ass tv on a wheelbarrow, the police picked me up because I looked like a stupid criminal... good times

    • @Masterofcandy4
      @Masterofcandy4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lol what

    • @manixxinam6709
      @manixxinam6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol thanks for sharing!

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I noticed that as well when I finished the first mission today

    • @sohummohare6364
      @sohummohare6364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You made this up right

    • @joet7136
      @joet7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carried a big ass tv in a wheelbarrow? This has to be from the South.

  • @shadepizza4217
    @shadepizza4217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    When I played MCC I was thinking, "wow, the new graphics mode is so much better, I don't remember the og version looking this bland and empty"

    • @TheLightningYu
      @TheLightningYu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, though even for the fact that the OG looked better than the Gearbox one, there is still a huge gap between the Remake & OG for obvious reason.

    • @hunterhalo
      @hunterhalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shade Pizza i did remembered becaused i owned both version, it felt weird when i play on my pc but i cant explain how

    • @jamess.7811
      @jamess.7811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hunterhalo you don't need the two ed's.

    • @vinnisvidya
      @vinnisvidya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i dunno, old graphics mode made it to where I stopped shooting walls because the hitboxes on cliffs were actually correct

    • @TheMagicQsGaming
      @TheMagicQsGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vinnisvidya Right! I would go to jump on a ledge or rock, then switch modes to notice why I am falling off.

  • @McCbobbish
    @McCbobbish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    As soon as you showed the original game footage, I instantly remembered. Like, I got a slug of memory from when I was a small child watching my dad play, when I first played it myself, all those memories.
    How didn't I notice?

    • @jamesgrose510
      @jamesgrose510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "You might not have noticed, but your brain did." -- Harry S. Plinkett

    • @TheGreyShaman
      @TheGreyShaman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      McBobbish I can’t speak for you, but I didn’t notice cuz the story is all that mattered to me. But now that someone brought it up in a video it’s hard not to see

    • @robertogurrola7465
      @robertogurrola7465 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's weird how I played the mcc a few weeks back but my memory of it is the og

    • @kuramaleon4499
      @kuramaleon4499 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got lost in the sauce

  • @madman407708
    @madman407708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    Oh my god?!?
    Gearbox, breaking a game?!?
    Why this is entirely unheard of, they've been such a good studio!?!

    • @fanamatakecick97
      @fanamatakecick97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Perpetual Peter
      The facetiousness is strong with this one

    • @duncanharrell5009
      @duncanharrell5009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Because they seemingly sabotage any game that isn’t their precious Borderlands.

    • @diddlenfiddle7311
      @diddlenfiddle7311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@duncanharrell5009 Err Half Life: Opposing Force was an amazing add-on to half life

    • @karrotakun3581
      @karrotakun3581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd give a like to your comment, but it's already got the perfect 117.

    • @duncanharrell5009
      @duncanharrell5009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@karrotakun3581 The hardest of choices require the strongest of wills.

  • @dngrouscrgo
    @dngrouscrgo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Bunjie: Halo - Combat Evolved
    Gearbox: Halo - Combat Regressed

    • @noahspiece8114
      @noahspiece8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      *cough* Combat Devolved *cough*

    • @Hadgerz
      @Hadgerz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Seriously, **Devolved** was right there, you were so close.

    • @daegnaxqelil2733
      @daegnaxqelil2733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bungie*

    • @iainkilcar7463
      @iainkilcar7463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      New mcc fixed version- combat repaired

  • @BetterOnichThanSorry
    @BetterOnichThanSorry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I swore I noticed a graphical downgrade for the original graphics way back when I played Anniversary on the 360, but when I'd tell others they'd tell me I was crazy.
    Thank you for giving me closure on this.

    • @ytistrash
      @ytistrash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they called me a madman :)

    • @teh_hunterer
      @teh_hunterer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same. I knew something was wrong, and I didn't end up playing it all the way through. I remember complaining on a forum and everyone tore me to pieces for disliking it. I swear they fucked up the audio as well.
      I too feel a lot of closure from this. I also won't be buying MCC if this is the version of the game they use.

    • @xehP
      @xehP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah man, sure, they called you crazy...

    • @Unethical.FandubsGames
      @Unethical.FandubsGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xehP Why not? This is the internet.

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I always thought I noticed some serious differences between the original and MCC, especially with the energy shield and hangar shield effects but never thought anything of it until now, thinking it was because the original graphics weren't made for new systems and therefore causing issues.
    Edit: I suppose I shouldn't be surprised considering Gearbox's track record of broken messes

    • @cherlojomzyaduermanse
      @cherlojomzyaduermanse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello there

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can see how far Gearbox is in terms of poor quality even back then.

    • @Lexie_Tyler05
      @Lexie_Tyler05 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nighterlev that's what I'm saying

    • @cherlojomzyaduermanse
      @cherlojomzyaduermanse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nighterlev And saber interactive that made the mistake of using it for CEA

  • @Carnyzzle
    @Carnyzzle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    This just adds to my theory that gearbox doesn't care about anything that isn't a Borderlands game

    • @FrahdChikun
      @FrahdChikun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Nah, they also don't care for Borderlands, look at 3.

    • @samuelolivier3792
      @samuelolivier3792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Carnyzzle they cared about half life 1, they made 2 awesome dlc and on the ps2 port even added a new co op campaign.

    • @XxgoodbudsxX
      @XxgoodbudsxX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They don't care about borderlands ether. Did you play 3 it's awful

    • @brahmruzek9305
      @brahmruzek9305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XxgoodbudsxX not really, but ok

    • @barkingapollo
      @barkingapollo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you kidding? BL3 is mess and while I do enjoy the series they are rife with bugs and glitches.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Oh man the extra details on that game, like when you walk up to a rock and then you see all the details.. The OG Xbox was amazing!

  • @HaythamGruxton
    @HaythamGruxton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    That walkthrough with the Refined team sounds great

    • @james4344
      @james4344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bump this to the heavens, I'm too lazy to break out my old Xbox and check the differences for myself.

  • @NoxianSoulHarvester
    @NoxianSoulHarvester 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I literally remember going "huh this isn't how i remembered combat evolved graphics were they really this bad back then?" NO THEY WEREN'T i fucking knew it

  • @volkerball85
    @volkerball85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Also, in regards to the shader issues stemming seemingly from one little tiny mistake, keep in mind that Gearbox also fucked up the Alien AI in Colonial Marines *the exact same damned way.*

    • @General_C
      @General_C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ban gearbox

    • @yuca2k1
      @yuca2k1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      slightlyoutofreach01 I heard there’s a line of code that could fix that. Read it somewhere online years ago.

    • @shotgunmasterQL
      @shotgunmasterQL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its not necessarily outright Gearboxes fault, because the people who did the initial mistake were the ones who it was outsourced to.
      Gearbox paid them pennies and their time window was strict, so obviously they never had the time to even attempt to fix it, and Gearbox themselves probably didnt care enough.

    • @misterpurple9886
      @misterpurple9886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Their only good game series is Borderlands and they stole that idea from a guy named Ben Hibon. Borderlands only came out they way it did due to Code Hunters.

    • @spencerc7819
      @spencerc7819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you haven't already, go download the Templar GFX Overhaul for Colonial Marines. It changes graphics settings to make the game much darker and have a creepier feel similar to the E3 trailer, plus (and most importantly) it overhauls the Xeno AI so that it hunts in the shadows and will rush you when you're not looking making the game MUCH more intense and fun to play. A friend and I still play online co-op together and the mod works for that too if you both have it.

  • @mjmanoni
    @mjmanoni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    The PC release of Halo CE on MCC just launched yesterday and it is writhe with issues as well as bump-mapping and transparent shaders STILL NOT FIXED. Please make a follow up to this as the MCC has not resolved the issues. I don't want them to move on to Halo 2 without fixing this =(.

    • @SlyNine
      @SlyNine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😭 Yep still broken

    • @JohnGrahamDoe
      @JohnGrahamDoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Can confirm. What a disgraceful butchering of a classic.
      I'm disgusted. I only play on original graphics as well. The updated graphics are interesting and well done, but they are NOT a REMASTER; they are a RE-IMAGINING. Many levels look completely unrecognizable from the original. The most obvious level to see this on is Truth and Reconciliation. The first part of the level is in a desert-like area in the original graphics; the "remastered" graphics make it into a lush forest/jungle area. The same goes for Halo 2 "remastered" graphics. So many of the iconic locales look NOTHING like the original version other than having the same basic geometry.

    • @psychotictrait3757
      @psychotictrait3757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      John Graham Doe Woah, I actually really loved Halo 2 anniversary graphics so much more than CE’s ugly anniversary graphics. I have to disagree there.

    • @JohnGrahamDoe
      @JohnGrahamDoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@psychotictrait3757 I'm not saying they don't look good, I'm just saying that they don't look like the originals. For example, High Charity does not look at all like the original version. A lot of the colors are completely changed, going from more of a dark magenta to a true purple. Some of the background geometry is also completely changed.
      It definitely looks good, but it is NOT a remaster. Remastering would be updating the old graphics but maintaining the same style and design. Instead, they completely reimagined the original (usually making changes that cause the games to look more in-sync with future Halo titles).
      The remasters do look good, but they just stray too far from the originals for me in a lot of areas.

    • @psychotictrait3757
      @psychotictrait3757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      John Graham Doe again, I have to disagree. Halo 2A was pretty much the only modern artstyle I loved because it retained a lot of the classic designs but modernized them. Halo CEA anniversary was ugly and tried going for a more Reach look. But everything was so fucking ugly, Espeically Chief’s hunchback of Nortedam armor anniversary armor. New Mombasa actually looks to par with ODSTs interpretation of it.

  • @Momo02401
    @Momo02401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    For anyone interested, here's our internal list of what issues we discovered, what they affect, and how to fix them.
    www.reddit.com/r/HaloCERefined/comments/9lpk6m/port_issues_masterlist/

    • @DaDARKPass
      @DaDARKPass 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still don't like your team for making that "best version" of the refined mod.

    • @Momo02401
      @Momo02401 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaDARKPass it was a joke version that made a lot of people laugh a lot. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it.

    • @derpyFx
      @derpyFx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't believe I never noticed
      I knew something was different but I couldn't tell what

    • @hockeymaskbob2942
      @hockeymaskbob2942 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

  • @nelite8817
    @nelite8817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    E3 is so close
    got like around 2 weeks left i think

    • @protosaur
      @protosaur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm excited for some sweet infinite news(if there is any)

    • @GlassStatus
      @GlassStatus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@protosaur I guarantee we'll see infinite at this year's e3

    • @protosaur
      @protosaur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @K John good luck on finals

    • @nelite8817
      @nelite8817 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @K John Good luck study hard

    • @vac3060
      @vac3060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tp.lovecraft1446 how did you have your finals but you still play mobile Roblox

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I really hope they can restore Halo to its original. I remember it looking so beautiful, and anniversary Classic felt a little off. Now I know why, Thank you

    • @basilman121
      @basilman121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad I have the og game now

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW ปีที่แล้ว +8

    People often are quick to jump to the conclusion that the graphical issues in the PC port of Halo were Gearbox's fault, not knowing they were given an incomplete earlier version of the original source code. Many of these graphical elements were last minute additions to the game, and unfortunately Gearbox didn't have access to them at the time.

  • @JudgementRyu
    @JudgementRyu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    I just now learned about this. Holy crap what a difference.

    • @FloatyBones77
      @FloatyBones77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      JudgementRyu999 yeah. The OG Xbox version even had a bit of pearlescence on the outer layer of the chief's armor.

    • @odstkefro3343
      @odstkefro3343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FloatyBones77 wheares in anniversary and MCC his armour is just olive clay

  • @jonathanschipper4202
    @jonathanschipper4202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I've got to say it. You really have to admire the respect and dedication that this man has for his craft.
    He'll take you on a nostalgia trip, while educating you throughout the video. I didn't know what Bump Mapping was until today.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next lesson: normal maps! :-)
      th-cam.com/video/6_-NNKc4lrk/w-d-xo.html

  • @retropulse03
    @retropulse03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Better solution. Put Halo on the Backwards Compatibility program so we can just play the original without relying on after-the-fact sub-standard ports.

    • @daseal1479
      @daseal1479 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GENIUS.

    • @littlesnuggle529
      @littlesnuggle529 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, it _kinda_ already is backwards compatible because you can just slap the OG game into your Xbox One and play it normally but, of course, there's no multiplayer beyond system link and split screen

    • @retropulse03
      @retropulse03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@littlesnuggle529 What? You can't play the XBOX copy on your X1. At all. The only MP the original Halo even had was System Link and Split Screen, so I have no idea what you are even talking about.

    • @spacemanapeinc7202
      @spacemanapeinc7202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SkyHighGam3r You can still play it on an Xbox 360, well if you have one.

    • @OrangeSodaKing
      @OrangeSodaKing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But then they can't make as much money off of that.

  • @IonicHyperspace
    @IonicHyperspace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    “Hey Gearbox can you fix Shader_Transparent_Generic to Halo CE?”
    Gearbox: “Sorry we don’t do that here.”

    • @KilluaZoldyck-de1hq
      @KilluaZoldyck-de1hq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      uhhh Shader_Transparent_Generic machine 🅱️roke

  • @Eowen129
    @Eowen129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    i still have my original Halo CE disc and the first Xbox, remember i got on the MCC and was wondering if the graphics were actually that bad, cause i remembered an insane and beautiful game when i first got my Xbox.
    This just confirms im not halucinating. Thanks for making people aware of this, cause the first halo looked really good for being such an old game

    • @ukl33
      @ukl33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Halocinating.

    • @Ratich
      @Ratich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you still have the OG Xbox and it still works you should look into removing the clock capacitor so that it doesn't damage it.

    • @Eowen129
      @Eowen129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ratich never heard about any issues with the OG Xbox, or are you thinking about the RROD on 360?

    • @Ratich
      @Ratich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Eowen129 Nope I am talking about the OG Xbox basically there is a capacitor on the motherboard of the OG Xbox that stores time that capacitor starts leaking acid after a while and that acid can damage the motherboard so you may want to get that remove and maybe check of the HDD is failing.

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean that's nostalgia for you.
      Halo 1 was certainly a beautiful game in 2001, but even the original nowadays looks like crap visually. Certainly impressive for its time (which is where the nostalgia comes from,) but hasn't exactly aged gracefully.

  • @steveothebassist
    @steveothebassist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Gearbox: Halo machine broke
    343: Understandable, have a great day

  • @MrDontSmokeKids
    @MrDontSmokeKids 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    There was always a gut feeling I had when I would see the "original" graphics on MCC that something seemed off, thank you for scratching that itch of curiosity and annoyance.

    • @FrostyWheats
      @FrostyWheats 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrDontSmokeKids 117 likes

  • @joeyvitale24
    @joeyvitale24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I hope this discussion is still going on because the mcc deserves a fixed CE

  • @wereitsoeasy5733
    @wereitsoeasy5733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I always felt that there was something 'off' about the MCC Halo CE in OG graphics... and now I know why. I played it on the OG xbox since I was 4, it was glaring something was wrong

    • @yarplurch4816
      @yarplurch4816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, except I had kinda forgotten about it. I can still play on my xbox, but the mcc's controls are so smooth it's hard for me to go back

    • @wereitsoeasy5733
      @wereitsoeasy5733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yarplurch4816 Yeh thats fair. My original Xbox was my brothers and he moved out unfortunately.
      I cannot play Halo CE in anniversary graphics - it's just not right hahah

    • @moistvibes5697
      @moistvibes5697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't it backwards compatible with Xbox 360
      I remember playing Halo 2 finally again back in 2013,when Xbox one first came out,that day I bought Halo 2 and put it into my 360 and playing it

    • @NyxTheNerd
      @NyxTheNerd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I did too. I still have my OG copy, but my Xbox is broken and my 360 doesn’t have a HDD, so I can’t play it. My question is how in the hell did they mess up Keyes’ model?

    • @wereitsoeasy5733
      @wereitsoeasy5733 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NyxTheNerd hahah i guess we'll never know!

  • @saverofthehumens
    @saverofthehumens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    So essentially, Gearbugs added Skyrim waterfalls to CE. That's an impressive level of shit.

  • @PunishedCreepswork4
    @PunishedCreepswork4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    i played CE on pc originally... damn, i thought that was how it always looked.
    _THERE GOES MY MEMORIES_

    • @Tygron
      @Tygron 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You and me both. I even played a small bit of the Xbox version, I just didn't play long enough to notice.

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This video is actually misleading, the original PC version was actually the same as xbox's. He actually never played the original himself and thinks PC's original version is the same as MCC.

    • @Altroante
      @Altroante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashleyjohansson230 this, exactly. This video is flat out wrong.

    • @thatsneakyneenja2595
      @thatsneakyneenja2595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @microcuts it isn't wrong, he just never specifically states which version he is talking about.

    • @spasecad3t
      @spasecad3t 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​ @@ashleyjohansson230 @microcuts The first PC version of Halo CE was made by Gearbox in 2003 and the graphics were noticeably different to me. What are you talking about? I'd also like to add that the original Xbox game renders differently on newer consoles than on the original Xbox.

  • @Drag0n092x
    @Drag0n092x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I think it’s safe to say this video is responsible for the MCC version being fixed. So thank you.

    • @NazmusLabs
      @NazmusLabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      possibly, yeah! And Allah (S.W.T.) knows best

  • @gnarkillguch
    @gnarkillguch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I kept telling my brother that the MCC version was worse than the of Xbox. He refused to believe me. Guess I'll share this video and gloat now.

    • @7thninjaturtle
      @7thninjaturtle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd honestly take the much better framerate and online over the very slight improvements the original had

    • @Yakasuki
      @Yakasuki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@7thninjaturtle​
      As much as I would agree with you that is not the issue, framerate was not an issue back then. Gearbox botched the PC version of graphical fidelity that didn't cost much if any performance. In otherwords, you could have as many frames as you want but it just wont look as good as it could be.

  • @BOTSamJ
    @BOTSamJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    6:09 BONELESS CE port!!!
    THE STUFF IS BONELESS DAWG!

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      BOT- Sam.J WHERE'S THE BONES!?

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheBunkerBuster 105 Yo man, you ever see that documentary uh.... National Treasure?

  • @willbo6530
    @willbo6530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    “Gearbox broke something...small, but very important.”
    Another A:CM typo disaster.

  • @MediQate
    @MediQate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    We must make this relevant. Halo CE doesn’t deserve this, if they’re not remaking CE from the ground up for its 20 year anniversary I’ll revolt. 12 teraflops next gen and all this talk about power and speed so they better fucking fix the game that got them where they are.

    • @fantasmacstrp9239
      @fantasmacstrp9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In my opinion they would be milking CE too much already, and that would delay even more the development of MCC for the PC not to mention Infinite.

    • @MediQate
      @MediQate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Fantasma CSTRP Halo CE got Xbox and Halo where they are and Halo CE Anniversary was a Halo Reach retexture of Gearbox Software's terrible Halo CE PC port.. Combat Evolved deserves a proper remake from the ground up for it's 20th year anniversary and they need to fix classic CE's graphics. They could add forge, theater, online multiplayer, firefight I suppose and make it a full new version of the classic or just stick to the original completely and charge less with no new features. It's an option, nobody NEEDS to buy it and it would be the right thing to do for the game that started it all for the fans that were there from the beginning.

    • @fantasmacstrp9239
      @fantasmacstrp9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@MediQate Dude, they're not doing it soon considering they have to port 5 halo games to the PC, and finish Halo Infinite. Not to mention it's 343 man, if it was Bungie you would've got the remake you wanted.
      I mean, you could still enjoy the SPV3 mod. It's pretty sick tbh.

    • @SlyNine
      @SlyNine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Is still using broken graphics! So disappointing!

    • @Ossory88
      @Ossory88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hear hear. This guy gets it!

  • @ThunderStruck115
    @ThunderStruck115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    There can be no greater heresy!
    Let it be an example to all who would break our game!

    • @UnitAlir
      @UnitAlir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Here-tics! Here-tics!

  • @itmaniscrazy
    @itmaniscrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    4:50 that seems to be a recurring theme about one line of code blowing a game up with gearbox

    • @Emertxe4
      @Emertxe4 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, if it really is literally one single thing causing the problem, that's probably a good thing. Just means that there's only one thing in one place that they have to fix, as opposed to having to debug everything everywhere.

    • @itmaniscrazy
      @itmaniscrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Emertxe well the problem is they don’t fix the one thing, like with aliens colonial marines they had one line of code missing for the aliens and it took someone 4 years to figure out that’s the problem. Unpaid modders are doing the work these people get paid to do professionally

  • @mastervidxad5883
    @mastervidxad5883 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    A lot of these things seem to happen with releases of ports being inferior to the original when it came to the game's look. Sonic Adventure 1 + 2 are one example.

  • @rentalsnake6542
    @rentalsnake6542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    7:37 this is where it really started to sting for me, thanks for highlighting these issues, I never realised that the original game had been tarnished like this, it's sickening that this bastardised version is being remembered as the original Halo and even emulated by other devs.

  • @Rythaze
    @Rythaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    As a CE zealot, I completely agree.
    This has been something bothering me for a while, but no one gives a damn whenever I complain lmao

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rythaze I think a lot of people like myself just didn’t even know because I played the pc port when I was a kid

    • @Rythaze
      @Rythaze 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pododododo Ehoh that’s fair

    • @tave7779
      @tave7779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +1 for being a ce zealot

    • @verum117
      @verum117 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I care boo boo bear... lmao jk

  • @Lea-pe6iw
    @Lea-pe6iw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Oh my god. I KNEW something was off when playing Halo1 on MCC. I KNEW it looked worse than I remembered. Thank you for this video.

    • @solaris5303
      @solaris5303 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nostalgia probably took a pretty huge part in that too.

    • @teh_hunterer
      @teh_hunterer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@solaris5303 Probably not though. Did you watch the video?

    • @solaris5303
      @solaris5303 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did, but nostalgia always warps memories of graphics and you've got to remember most people were playing the OG game on a tiny 4:3. Of course it objectively looks worse now but remembering better visuals than there really were is very, very common.

    • @haydentravis3348
      @haydentravis3348 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's amazing how few people had the original to load up to compare. I noticed right away and had no question, even before I loaded up the original to verify.

    • @scythelord
      @scythelord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@solaris5303 Nostalgia doesn't have anything to do with it when it's a game you've played in the last year. I often hear people talk of nostalgia being a huge part in making people love some games over others, but well, nostalgia doesn't keep me playing games 20 years after first playing them. Hell I am currently playing through FF7 for probably the thousandth time. Nostalgia doesn't make me love that game more than other final fantasy games. I'd played all the ones before and after it when they were new. That's just the story and gameplay I like the best.
      Nostalgia can only be a factor if it was something you experienced when you were much younger and many years later just had all your good memories involving that thing, without experiencing it first hand since.

  • @thefantasticdrill788
    @thefantasticdrill788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I can deal with transparent shaders being missing, but bump mapping is very important.

  • @IrisCorven
    @IrisCorven 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The funniest part about them using it due to its multiplayer capability is that - when Gearbox's port released on PC? The multiplayer was FAMOUSLY busted. The netcode was an absolute mess, and staying connected to a game, or the game not crashing was a rarity for almost a year.

  • @XaneMyers
    @XaneMyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This reminds me of Sonic Adventure, where the original did a lot of things better than its port, SADX. That inferior-looking port was the base for later versions, too...

    • @kenpanderz672
      @kenpanderz672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      luckily there are a good selection of mods for the PC version that brings alot of the original, and superior, Dreamcast aspects back. cant remember the details off the top of my head, but it shouldnt be hard to find.

    • @scythescythe884
      @scythescythe884 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      theres some Brazilian guy out there trying to fix it by using dream cast assets. i forgot where i read that from though so i could use help finding the source if anyone else remembers this. i actually hope to be skilled enough one day to do a 2019 overhaul of the graphics, making everything look more like the games's concept art styles, better transparencies high poly meshes, new textures, animations, character models, etc... maybe even gemeplay fixes for a few of the "insta death" spots i remember... SAB2 is just one of the many games im be passionate about doing this to. i really want to do this to skyrim and vampire the masquerade:bloodlines too... and many others.

    • @luistailsprower3051
      @luistailsprower3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least the models are slightly higher poly

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I hope we get the original original graphics in Halo PC

    • @pododododoehoh3550
      @pododododoehoh3550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jedi Spartan 38 Chances of that are basically zero seeing as it was halos pc port by gearbox that fucked up the graphics in the first place but is also the only version with online play hence why it was used in mcc so they could add classic multiplayer.

    • @davefan16
      @davefan16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't count on it

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pododododoehoh3550 true. Although, in all honesty, I don't get why the original 2011 version of CEA uses it as it just used Reach's engine for the multiplayer with the Anniversary Map Pack.

    • @Schytheron
      @Schytheron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pododododoehoh3550 Yeah. It's highly unlikely. The good part however is that Gearbox isn't doing the MCC PC port. That is mainly handled by Splash Damage who have made some of the best PC ports I've ever seen (Gears of War 4's PC port is close to perfection and Splash Damage was in charge of it). I have full faith that the PC port of MCC will be fantastic.

    • @MinesweepActual
      @MinesweepActual 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And on Xbox mcc

  • @tannerhoke
    @tannerhoke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Thank you for shedding light on this issue. I wondered why it looked worse. But let's not forget the OG audio is still missing.

    • @seralicious6475
      @seralicious6475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tanner Hoke *cough* light on the issue *cough*

    • @WaveOfDestiny
      @WaveOfDestiny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I remember shooting human weapons on a shield was like an asmr. The sound of the bullets bouncing around.

    • @tannerhoke
      @tannerhoke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seralicious6475 subtle right? haha

    • @seralicious6475
      @seralicious6475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tanner Hoke haha as subtle as he detail

    • @FF-kc7fc
      @FF-kc7fc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep. The Halo CE windows port by Gearbox had original audio, but for some reason, Halo MCC doesn't change audio samples when changing to classic mode...

  • @ComradePilas
    @ComradePilas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This year, Halo CE would turn 20 years... I really, REALLY hope they do something about this

    • @matthewmagnani2915
      @matthewmagnani2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They’re doing it! THEY’RE FIXING IT!

    • @rufousthefox9766
      @rufousthefox9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They've fixed most of the issues in the season 7 update.

    • @SpectorEuro4
      @SpectorEuro4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewmagnani2915 they never fixed jack sh1t

    • @matthewmagnani2915
      @matthewmagnani2915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpectorEuro4 It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely an improvement from 2019.

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpectorEuro4 chill white boy

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I’m lost as to how Gearbox was paid for “completion” of this project. This is fubar.

    • @fitzgerald6466
      @fitzgerald6466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neural Tech this is fubar lmao what are you the half life opposing force engineer lmao fubar

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Besides the graphical issues and a few bugs, it's actually not horrible though. It brought Halo to PC, and they repackaged the dev tools in Custom Edition expansion. Without Gearbox, we wouldn't have all the modded content like SPV3 and Lumoria and all the other stuff that we have on PC.

    • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
      @ghfjfghjasdfasdf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Copy that. Well that’s good to know that, at minimum, it benefitted the PC modding community... can’t argue with that. 👍

    • @shred1894
      @shred1894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghfjfghjasdfasdf That, and you gotta remember that until Halo 2 was ported over in 2006, HCE was the only Halo experience on PC. Heck, without Halo CE being ported to begin with, there probably wouldn't have been such a desire for Halo to be on PC, and without so many people wanting it, we wouldn't have the MCC on PC now.

    • @janne7263
      @janne7263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shred1894 Halo was supposed to be a Mac and PC game from the beginning. Thats why CE was ported. So yes, there would have been demand for it either way

  • @SpecialEDy
    @SpecialEDy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I got the original Xbox the day it came out, and i was sad when my parents bought me Halo for Christmas 2001 instead of the fighter jet game I had wanted. It turned out to be an excellent game, right up there with Doom, Half life, and Goldeneye 64.

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes. Goldeneye 64.
      Good times good times

  • @spartanwar1185
    @spartanwar1185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Footage missing"
    >proceeds to show proper footage of jackal shield turning red in original game, with bump maps visible

  • @MrBricks148
    @MrBricks148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Playing the flighting for PC now and all the issues are still here :/

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Submit it as tickets. I did. I figure they're working on getting the game stable first.

    • @Bobthehuntedbobcat
      @Bobthehuntedbobcat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Hirotoro4692 Turns out they neither made the game stable nor fixed the issues in this video

  • @FoxyGrandpa1
    @FoxyGrandpa1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I’ve been looking forward to this. I never realized how much what changed. I hope they fix it one day. Great video dude

  • @capitalistpig89ful
    @capitalistpig89ful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As somebody who spent countless hours playing Halo: CE on the Xbox your video summed up all of the problems I had with the Anniversary edition of Halo. Thanks for making this

  • @angeluisidro8444
    @angeluisidro8444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Right after I bought Halo CEA...
    ...Damn. Same problems are on it too

  • @jackburton307
    @jackburton307 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    PLEASE do an update on this with the most recent update to MCC!

  • @rj009ok
    @rj009ok 5 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    can i have uhhh 🅱️ O N E L E S S Halo Combat Evolve
    gearbox: yes

    • @TherealEmersonSilva
      @TherealEmersonSilva 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      DᎥČ𝐊н𝐞Δ𝕕
      Name one Halo that got bone in it

    • @nightworld4658
      @nightworld4658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TherealEmersonSilva Halo 2

    • @OfficialDJSoru
      @OfficialDJSoru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TherealEmersonSilva just don't put them shits on my Halo bruh.
      If it aint got a bone, iss 🅱️ O N E L E S S

    • @PixelPhoenix
      @PixelPhoenix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ahaha, read this like you're at McDonalds ordering at the cash register while looking at the menu.

  • @voxkoshka
    @voxkoshka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Yo, why is gearbox such ass?
    I didn't know about any of this and I'm happy you gave the heads up on it.

    • @WhatzHappeningNow9
      @WhatzHappeningNow9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Because Randy Pitchford is a scumbag CEO

    • @0XIIIIII
      @0XIIIIII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Borderlands is the best idk what you mean by ass, but did they do an ass job on halo definitely

    • @0XIIIIII
      @0XIIIIII 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhatzHappeningNow9 back in the day he was okay slowly started to change

    • @Unethical.FandubsGames
      @Unethical.FandubsGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@0XIIIIII borderlands is overrated schlock

    • @0XIIIIII
      @0XIIIIII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Unethical.FandubsGames 5 million people disagree lol

  • @DISORDEREDYT
    @DISORDEREDYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I noticed on Halo 2 classic lockout there's no snow falling from the sky like the original Xbox version.

    • @lostkaiser1995
      @lostkaiser1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      DISORDER3D it appears it also uses the Halo 2 Vista port instead of the OG Xbox version

  • @resijade4342
    @resijade4342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Who should I blame more for this:
    Gearbox for butchering this so much
    Or
    343i for never fixing it in CEA or MCC

    • @thawkade
      @thawkade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why not both?

    • @animodium2670
      @animodium2670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What I don't get is why they used the pc port if they used Reach's engine for multiplayer...

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      343. It’s one thing to do a shitty port job, assuming it was kind of rushed and they may not have actually had full access. It’s another thing to remaster the shitty broken port knowingly without fixing literally anything.

    • @TruePacifist201
      @TruePacifist201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JZStudiosonline Try the Refined mod. It's not perfect, but it does what it set out to do (fix as much of what Gearbox broke as possible), the only problem I have with it is that the on-screen text (tutorial pop-up boxes, action prompts, and the objective tracker in the pause menu) is frequently misaligned, and can be jarring to look at (worst case I've seen is the tank tutorial on Assault on the Control Room, which literally has the text trying to to escape from the box).

  • @Banning133
    @Banning133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I also noticed in the Remake's graphics is that bullet casings don't stay for very long and roll along the ground like they do in the original.

  • @AzureFlameGod1986
    @AzureFlameGod1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sir, I’ve been watching your channel for some time now and you really hit the nail on the head with these topics on Halo CE’s graphics and design vs Halo CEA. I was literally just ranting to a friend the other night about exactly what you just said in this video and more that I didn’t even know about. I really had no idea that the bump mapping didn’t work unless a light was shined on the Forerunner metals. And I look at the stuff with absolute obsession. Thanks for pointing that out.
    Please keep doing more videos like this. I enjoy sharing them and get my... our points across to my friends and others that care to listen. Maybe one day 343 will realize this and fix these issues with a more accurate classic looking 20th Halo CEA in the future.

  • @grimbo1187
    @grimbo1187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was about to fall asleep, then this came out, guess my sleep schedule is already ruined

  • @sirejester1155
    @sirejester1155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its insane to me that CE looked as beautifal it did when it was released and had so many details with its era

  • @mrandrossguy9871
    @mrandrossguy9871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Excactly I’ve been saying !!
    What’s more pathetic is they screwed up in Anniversary and didn’t bother Fixing it in MCC !!??

    • @SilviaIncognito
      @SilviaIncognito 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Let's not give 343 bad rep here for this. They were probably not aware of this and thought it was okay. Now that the community fully knows about this we can deliver it to 343 and they can probably fix the issues it has.

    • @BanishedSilentShadow3318
      @BanishedSilentShadow3318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, they could fix the issues hell if they seen this video then maybe they'll look into the issue

    • @kevincmejia
      @kevincmejia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SilviaIncognito in this case I think is our responsibility to let 343 know about it

  • @herrlogan17
    @herrlogan17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Gearbox quality assurance. Like Duke Nukem or Aliens: Colonial Marines.

    • @haydentravis3348
      @haydentravis3348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They have a completely different standard for their own games, too. I would not recommend outsourcing anything to them because they put the least amount of effort in possible and, historically, release broken or downgraded products.
      They should be blacklisted by the industry, at least as far as outsourcing goes. Nobody can stop them releasing their own games, but nbody should hire them.

  • @RC-no8qo
    @RC-no8qo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A very important video to make! I forgot how good the OG graphics looked 😬

  • @componentgames
    @componentgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And now the cinematic bars are completely broken in Classic. Music triggers are broken as well. Goddamn it.
    Edit: CE good now. They just need to fix Halo 2 and we good.

  • @eduardsklyanin8541
    @eduardsklyanin8541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Still shocked Microsoft never fixed it. Even worse used the PC version as a base in the first place.

  • @Dilandau87
    @Dilandau87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hey LNG! With the release of MCC's Halo CE on PC, have you considered doing a follow up to this? I can't help feel like this is really relevant to the flighting of HCE!

    • @giovanni12465
      @giovanni12465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @easy eevee it is

    • @flaquito6296
      @flaquito6296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      easy eevee 343 has acknowledged it tho

  • @Alex-oj8po
    @Alex-oj8po 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember how poorly this port ran on my PC at the time despite the game being so old by the time it actually got ported over. This explains why, it was ported by total hacks

  • @stuffedmannequin
    @stuffedmannequin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This cleared up so many questions I've had. I played OG Halo on Xbox in 2002-2003, and I was always struck by how colorful and lively the world around me was. Recently picked up MCC on the Steam sale and played through it for the first time since. I kept telling myself that the game was old, but I couldn't help but feel something nagging at me that something was wrong.

  • @Aruami
    @Aruami 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Gearbox is giving bungie a bad name? Hmmm that reminds me...
    ACTIVISION with destiny 2.

    • @AceSimGaming
      @AceSimGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No more Activision now :D

    • @jordanborisch4583
      @jordanborisch4583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AceSim Gaming activision night have split but the changes they made are all still there. I hope that eventually Bungie will rid themselves of that filth

    • @roar104
      @roar104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine thinking it was Activision making the game bad and not years of incompetence by bungie lmao

    • @toad1054
      @toad1054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mr roar104 me and my friend were just talking about this lol

  • @Naded
    @Naded 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video, would love to see more of the side by sides, I shared this in my discord btw

    • @jericosha2842
      @jericosha2842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love you bb. Keep streaming, good stuff

  • @jamskrusha
    @jamskrusha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It makes me sad to know that I never truly played the original first Halo

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you did if you got the original PC version, this video is actually all wrong. Only the MCC version is downgraded.

    • @jamskrusha
      @jamskrusha 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel better now

    • @dbzwarrior4321
      @dbzwarrior4321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jamskrusha dont shes wrong the pc version is actually worst than the mcc version

    • @halinaqi2194
      @halinaqi2194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then how would you explain the halo refined project? Halo 1 PC was a bad port

  • @Nathaniel_Peterson
    @Nathaniel_Peterson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone noticed the broken sky in Assault on the Control Room, even those who never played the game on the original Xbox. I have no idea how the game was allowed to release in that state.