As a papist educated in an Episcopal school, I speak as an interested outsider. This is a remarkable sermon, pointing out the culture- and nation-shaping role of Anglicans and Anglicanism in the United States. Clearly, the English colonies (with the exception of Catholic-founded Maryland and Quaker-founded Pennsylvania) were overwhelmingly a Protestant project that shaped the political and social ethos of what became the American Republic. Fashions certainly have changed. This speech would be condemned today as "Christian nationalism". Columbus would be excoriated today precisely because his discovery led to the imperial-colonial expansion of Christendom, whether English, French, or Spanish. The Left today excoriates both the Catholic and the Protestant imperial powers and their relations with the indigenous peoples of the Americas. The reason that many Roman Catholics (many of them recent immigrants or their children or grandchildren) supported the commemoration of Columbus was because they wanted to emphasize that Catholics could fit into the American Republic and be loyal citizens. From a more religious and theological standpoint, the Catholics were making the point that English Christendom is a semi-detached part of a wider Catholic Christendom (Western civilization, as we now term it), and that everything that is authentically Christian in Protestant cultures can be welcomed in Catholic unity. I'm actually nostalgic for this Protestant Christian triumphalism. Whatever its limitations and failings, it was far better than the self-destructive anti-Christian mess that we have now. At least they believed that Christian civilization was something worth cherishing and defending.
Maryland was also an Established Anglican colony. It was just much more tolerating of Roman Catholics so drew more of them but they were always still a minority.
@@DrGero15 Maryland was founded by Lord Baltimore, who had become Catholic, as a place with general toleration of all Christians. He provided for both Catholic and Anglican clergy to be available to the colonists. There was a period of disorder during the English Civil War. With the Restoration, the Church of England became the established church of Maryland. By that time, the Calverts had themselves returned to the Established Church.
Most laws, behaviors or to extent ancestry goes to two religions and ethnicities. Presbyterian Scots (and the occasional Episcopal Scots) And the Anglican English (and occasionally the English Calvinists) You can Trace much American legal, architectural, artistic and culinary culture to the Presbyterians and Episcopalians/Anglicans. To an extent you can say it's ethnic with English and Scottish. But hypothetically if it was Lutheran and Dutch reform, America's economic, political and traditional values would still develop and evolve similarly. Anglicanism (and Presbyterianism) through their systems, influenced how the democratic government has govern, which if your pedantic is a Republic not a democracy.
This is one of the best sermons I ever heard. I grew up in a low church Evangelical setting (Calvary Chapel) but this might just convince me to become officially Anglican.
When we were founded we were a more generalized British denomination nation. Presbyterianism was huge as was Anglicanism and Methodism, all of which originated on the island, I would not say that Anglicanism was the largest except in a few states like Maryland. Then as things expanded we got a ton of Lutherans and other religions
Hi Young Anglican, great video; the change in mic qualities every now and then are a bit abrupt and do ruin the flow, however I don't expect you to be a pastor and understand needing to take multiple takes for a sermon like this. Also, just a suggestion, I think you should remove the text from your TH-cam icon. Leave it as the painting, or try develop a different icon that is more identifiable in miniscule. Keep up the great work!
Hey Joe, awesome video! The effort you put into your videos is amazing. Anyway, I had a question. Well, my friends AND I have a question because we're in a bit of a pickle. You see, our church is thankfully conservative, no female priests or LGBTQ affirmation or anyything, we even spoke to our parish theologian and he emphasized how it's important to not let social justice and political matters interfere with worship, as well as their dedication to not follow secularization and liberalization of the church. They're actually among a group trying to clean up the Anglican Church of Canada. However, they are still under the umbrella of the current liberal ACoC, which has a female Archbishop, under the Diocese of Huron which has had a female Bishop before our current bishop (who is actually now the female Archbishop of ACoC that I mentioned). We have absolutely no other choices. No ACNCA, no Continuing Anglican, NOTHING in our entire city other than the ACoC. We're still kids that bike everywhere so leaving the city is not even an option at all. Is it still okay to attend that church? We really don't want to switch to attending a different denomination's church.
@@Young_Anglican Thanks, man! I only recently left Islam for Christianity and chose Anglicanism because of your awesome videos. Keep up everything you do!
Yeah, a lot of Christians in early America were Methodists because the Great Awakening mostly effected Methodists and Presbyterians because their polity made mass conversion and itinerate preaching easier. When one Hessian described what we call "The American Revolution" to someone back home he said "This war is nothing more than a Scottish Presbyterian rebellion."
As a papist educated in an Episcopal school, I speak as an interested outsider. This is a remarkable sermon, pointing out the culture- and nation-shaping role of Anglicans and Anglicanism in the United States. Clearly, the English colonies (with the exception of Catholic-founded Maryland and Quaker-founded Pennsylvania) were overwhelmingly a Protestant project that shaped the political and social ethos of what became the American Republic.
Fashions certainly have changed. This speech would be condemned today as "Christian nationalism". Columbus would be excoriated today precisely because his discovery led to the imperial-colonial expansion of Christendom, whether English, French, or Spanish. The Left today excoriates both the Catholic and the Protestant imperial powers and their relations with the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
The reason that many Roman Catholics (many of them recent immigrants or their children or grandchildren) supported the commemoration of Columbus was because they wanted to emphasize that Catholics could fit into the American Republic and be loyal citizens. From a more religious and theological standpoint, the Catholics were making the point that English Christendom is a semi-detached part of a wider Catholic Christendom (Western civilization, as we now term it), and that everything that is authentically Christian in Protestant cultures can be welcomed in Catholic unity.
I'm actually nostalgic for this Protestant Christian triumphalism. Whatever its limitations and failings, it was far better than the self-destructive anti-Christian mess that we have now. At least they believed that Christian civilization was something worth cherishing and defending.
Maryland was also an Established Anglican colony. It was just much more tolerating of Roman Catholics so drew more of them but they were always still a minority.
@@DrGero15 Maryland was founded by Lord Baltimore, who had become Catholic, as a place with general toleration of all Christians. He provided for both Catholic and Anglican clergy to be available to the colonists. There was a period of disorder during the English Civil War.
With the Restoration, the Church of England became the established church of Maryland. By that time, the Calverts had themselves returned to the Established Church.
Most laws, behaviors or to extent ancestry goes to two religions and ethnicities.
Presbyterian Scots (and the occasional Episcopal Scots)
And the Anglican English (and occasionally the English Calvinists)
You can Trace much American legal, architectural, artistic and culinary culture to the Presbyterians and Episcopalians/Anglicans.
To an extent you can say it's ethnic with English and Scottish.
But hypothetically if it was Lutheran and Dutch reform, America's economic, political and traditional values would still develop and evolve similarly.
Anglicanism (and Presbyterianism) through their systems, influenced how the democratic government has govern, which if your pedantic is a Republic not a democracy.
This is one of the best sermons I ever heard. I grew up in a low church Evangelical setting (Calvary Chapel) but this might just convince me to become officially Anglican.
Going to my first Anglican service this weekend! Very excited
I learned yesterday that apparently America’s first Speaker of the House and the President under the Articles of Confederation were both Lutheran.
That was one of the best religious lectures I have ever heard
Yes.....definitely.. more Anglican than anything else
When we were founded we were a more generalized British denomination nation. Presbyterianism was huge as was Anglicanism and Methodism, all of which originated on the island, I would not say that Anglicanism was the largest except in a few states like Maryland. Then as things expanded we got a ton of Lutherans and other religions
Blessings to the family. 🙏🏼
Hi Young Anglican, great video; the change in mic qualities every now and then are a bit abrupt and do ruin the flow, however I don't expect you to be a pastor and understand needing to take multiple takes for a sermon like this.
Also, just a suggestion, I think you should remove the text from your TH-cam icon. Leave it as the painting, or try develop a different icon that is more identifiable in miniscule. Keep up the great work!
Yes, it is.
Hey Joe, awesome video! The effort you put into your videos is amazing. Anyway, I had a question. Well, my friends AND I have a question because we're in a bit of a pickle.
You see, our church is thankfully conservative, no female priests or LGBTQ affirmation or anyything, we even spoke to our parish theologian and he emphasized how it's important to not let social justice and political matters interfere with worship, as well as their dedication to not follow secularization and liberalization of the church. They're actually among a group trying to clean up the Anglican Church of Canada.
However, they are still under the umbrella of the current liberal ACoC, which has a female Archbishop, under the Diocese of Huron which has had a female Bishop before our current bishop (who is actually now the female Archbishop of ACoC that I mentioned).
We have absolutely no other choices. No ACNCA, no Continuing Anglican, NOTHING in our entire city other than the ACoC. We're still kids that bike everywhere so leaving the city is not even an option at all.
Is it still okay to attend that church? We really don't want to switch to attending a different denomination's church.
@@Abdul_Jaami I think you are alright friend. Keep the faith and support your faithful ministers and leaders!
@@Young_Anglican Thanks, man! I only recently left Islam for Christianity and chose Anglicanism because of your awesome videos. Keep up everything you do!
@@Abdul_Jaami Praise God!
can you do a video about the (Anglican) ordinariate that is apart of the RCC?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Given the modern dire state of Anglicanism and America, bishop would probably not be so quick to claim this country.
Thanks, Joe!
title should be "was America an anglican country" cause its not even christian anymore unfortunately
In mentality, it's a Methodist one.
Yeah, a lot of Christians in early America were Methodists because the Great Awakening mostly effected Methodists and Presbyterians because their polity made mass conversion and itinerate preaching easier. When one Hessian described what we call "The American Revolution" to someone back home he said "This war is nothing more than a Scottish Presbyterian rebellion."