Gotta tell ya, watching your videos has inspired me. We had a council cleanup here in Moss Vale, Australia, which is about the only time you see free piles, and took home a Yard King 138cc mower and a line trimmer. The mower had some handle bolts missing and a small hole in the plastic fuel tank, which I was able to address without any problems. Took down the carb and cleaned it and it runs really well. The line trimmer needed a bit of love with the thing being stored for years with gas in the tank, which had evaporated and the ethanol had turned to tar. So lots of cleaning out the tank, and carb, replaced the fuel lines, filter and gas cap, and it, too, came back to life. Cost me $6 AUD. Couldn't have done it without ya, Thanks.
@@majesticskeever And it's somewhat cheaper than 95, so people buy it for their mower. Most servos with E10 don't have a non-ethanol fuel below 95, so if your preferred servo carries E10, and you don't know any better, you're putting that in the mower.
Man I love the stories you tell while filming what you do. They're almost as good as watching you fix up old junk. Always look forward to mustie1 Sunday postings.
I just looked up Cross Castle. Apparently it cost $1.5m to build back in 1907, and the family sold it for just $155,000 in 1919. 12 people were employed full time just to cut wood for the fires!
@@geoffquickfall Sorry i'm a bit late Geoff (3 weeks late). Came to say the same thing. We have been bumped into, dropped, knocked and near-misses, but I think this is the first time we got a full squirt in the eye. And the vision was blurred as the liquid ran down the lens, felt like I had been blinded. 😉 Yes, funny that it almost felt real. Good on ya.
Your description of growing up burning wood and coal sure brought back memories. We too burned wood/coal. Had heat in two rooms. Kitchen and bathroom. Banking the fire every night. Getting up at 5 am to get the fire back up. Shaking down the shaker grate in the morning. And recharging with wood and coal. Taking out the ashes every morning and spreading on the compost pile. Cutting and chopping lots and LOTS of firewood. Dad would get coal in larger chunks as it was cheaper. My brother and I would use sledge hammers to break it down then shovel down the coal shoot. Always smelled like wood smoke and coal dust. Kids at school would make fun of us for how we smelled and how stained/rough our hands were. How dirty our boots were. When I got to boot camp after high school couldn’t believe I didn’t have to get up and tend the stove. Actually got to sleep in until 530am. Still woke up at 5 and silently got ready for am PT. Always the first one out of the barracks, bunk made, foot locker squared away. About day 4 or 5 of boot camp, DS asked me, “You’re a farm boy right?” “YES SERGEANT!” He winked at me and said, “Me too” Then chewed me out for some perceived infraction. That was a long time ago. Thanks for the videos and the commentary. Hadn’t thought about those things in over 45 years.
I feel like I'm in a small engine repair class, and Mustie is the instructor. I always learn something new when I watch your channel. Very informative. And, well photographed and edited, we appreciate your effort. Thanks
Probably just a normal comment for you, but i watch Alot of youtubers fixing everuthing from chainsaws to 80 tons excavators, but im absolutely looking more forward to your videos. Its just like fixing things with a best friend IRL. Thanks for being you, and showing us a great time bud! Regards from Norway!
Mustie is the best - he's got a great, relaxed personality, doesn't use annoying music in his videos, knows what he's talking about and takes the time to explain things while casually chatting to his viewers. Can't really fault the guy, this is easily my favorite repair/maintenance channel.
Helt enig. It's a pity that we don't have the same culture in Norway with free stuff at the side of the road. Every thing goes to the recycle centers and we are not allowed to pick anything there.
Been watching Darren for years now.. Always great content and dialogue. The dialogue really makes it. You should also like Rainman Rays repairs.. Another channel I watch religiously. Daily content too.
This saw is the same as the echo 452vl. It has an auto oiler as well. It also has points ignition. On echos, the VL is vibration dampen, and the EVL is electronic ignition and vibration dampening. Cool saw.
Yup, I own Echo's for the last 40 plus years and imo right up there with the Steelie... the 14'', was my first & the best, extremely light as a feather, which did 75% of the work. & loved the re fueling & oil being on the top...
Ive been here, a subscriber for years and am super impressed with how little your channel has changed over time , I've seen so much growth but so little change. Awesome dude and a awesome time hanging out in the shop. I thank you Darren for all the great memories and learning experiences. I started watching when I was about 17 or so and never miss a video! Not asking for any praise I'm just expressing how great you and your content is!! Keep it up!
As a young man I worked in a wood and metal shop that built restaurant tables and booths. It takes a lot of compressed air and push brooms to keep it clean. The last hour or so of the workday was for clean-up. The shop manager/co-owner would do a walk through inspection on occasion and if the shop wasn’t clean enough we couldn’t punch out on the time clock and get our weekly paychecks. Inspections were usually on Thursday. We worked 4, 10 hour days. So on Thursday we made sure to clean very well because a bunch of you folks wanted those paychecks and start to party for our 3 day weekend!😂
@@dennisphilbrick1623 Quite simple: he is a project man who does this find/repair/sometimes flip it for profit scheme on the regular and he keeps the camera on. That's how he does it and he found it out makes him more and more money as the channel grows. No big mystery there--he's one of the busiest men out there
@@dennisphilbrick1623 No it isn't. The "biggest" question is, "How is it that you don't get it?" EDIT: UPDATE: To "plagiarize" Fred Meyer, "I'm sure he makes a lot more money from the TH-cam monetization than" YOU DO IN MOMMY'S BASEMENT!!
My favorite part of these videos is the way Mustie just laughs whenever he comes across something that is crusty or busted on whatever he is working on. Great content, love watching!
Home of the Highlanders, class of '85! Mustie1, great to hear these stories, 100% facts. I'm from the same neck of the woods, Northern NJ. So cool to hear the stories continue to carry the legend. Clinton Road and the history behind it are still alive and well!! Keep the stories alive! Cheers!😎
Usually in the fall people would come into the shop with their chainsaws (not this vintage though) and complain about it not running after they got it started. The primary reason for that usually was because the muffler was packed with residue from the 2-cycle oil. A quick burnout of the spark arrestor with a propane torch and a saw would run after starting, then we sold them a chain sharpening, bar, or whatever we found looking it over. It wasn't to gouge them, but homeowners as a rule need guidance on small engines to steer them toward repairs they wouldn't necessarily think to do themselves. We never pushed, but more often than not they would go with our suggestions. Our best day was when I processed 300 repair tickets and called back 150 the same day to pick their equipment up. There were 3 small engine repair mechanics and one specifically for the 2-Cycle jobs. No piles are available here on the curb like this, but my family does attend estate sales and often get things like this that just need a little bit of care, and then we turn around and sell them.
Awhile back my dad's weed eator just stopped running one day and I looked at it and that's what it was the spark arrestor was clogged, luckily it was removable so I cleaned it and it ran like brand new
Yeah I had a Stihl chainsaw and it was running terrible and I bought another $2 carburetor for that didn't help. Until I looked in the spark arrestor which was packed full of look like lava rocks 😦
"let's see how it works"..few content providers say that..and like when Mustie takes that extra step..knowledge and understanding is the best teacher..thx Mustie
Hey, Mustie! I was raised in Passaic, NJ and used to go to Greenwood Lake when the drinking age in NY was 18. The cops used to wait for us on Clinton Rd as we came out of NY and try to pick us off for DUI. I never got caught but some of my friends did. That was back in early 70's. To quote an old song: "Those were the days my friend".
I grew up in Summit New Jersey and we'd take the train into the City and hit the bars to get loaded when we were underage. The only ID we ever needed was cold hard cash. If you could pay for drinks they'd serve us. We loved it. Then going home we'd buy beers in a deli and brown bag those on the train. We were delinquents.
Mustie1 - Unlike most chainsaw bars, the one on that wee John Deere has a "right way" and a "wrong way" to mount. Currently it is the right way round at the start of the video! From memory they were a low kickback design from Oregon. The saw is a Kioritz Echo - built and branded for John Deere. There are collectors for the JD and Echo saws.
On the end of the bar, there is a small hole next to the sprocket. I'll usually put the tip of my grease gun against it and give it a squirt. The bar chain oil doesn't get down to that bearing, so a bit of tacky grease helps.
I occasionally take the bar and chain off for a full cleaning of sawdust in the bar track and sprocket area. After it's clean, I'll dump an ounce out so of oil on the side of the bar and work it into the track and sprocket area. Then reattach to the saw with the chain and dribble a little more on. Then after a few minutes of setting I'll fire it up to fling off the excess and it's good to go. I also turn my oilers up to max output. Cheaper to use more oil than burning up motors and bar/chain combos
Hi Mustie, on almost all two stroke, the needle closest to the engine is low mixture, and initial setting is 1 1/2 turns for low, and 3/4 for high. Love watching you!!!
Mustie1, how do you always give us good views to everything you are doing? You get shots of impossible angles so we see exactly what your doing. I have been following you for years and your second to none. Good stuff man. I feel like i am on the side of you.
My father's chore as a boy was taking the ashes out of the coal fired heater and this was in Philadelphia, but it was in the 40s. The main choices back then was purchase steam generated in a central plant or coal. My father used to tell me how when his neighbor's steam pipes would fail, the whole house would fill with steam. A lot of older homes in places like Philadelphia have a coal storage room in the basement under the front porch. There would be a window facing the street (under the porch) where the coal would be loaded into the house.
All the stuff you're describing about the area of North Jersey you grew up in, I heard all the same stories about the Pine Barrens in South Jersey. We would call the people living in the Pine Barrens "Pineys" The Pine Barrens are huge and at a minimum go well into central Jersey. I like camping in the Pine Barrens. Lots of fun.
Loved the story about the old castle. They used to have Jungle Habitat by the lake and there were all sorts of stories of animals getting lose and dying in the winter. The chainsaw saying Canada and Japan on it is similar to band instruments from the 80’s and 90’s. Yamaha USA would be parts manufactured in Japan but assembled in the US. Then when that got too expensive assembly went to Canada, then Mexico, Taiwan and finally good old China. I have a 38 year old John Deere 2 stage snowblower. It was my Dads and I had to have it when he passed. I emptied the gas tank on it and it’s been in the garage for years now. Lots of stuff I’d like to get to but I don’t have the time. Sax
That saw was built for Deere by Echo (Kioritz) in Japan. Probably early 70’s since no chain brake. I had an Echo 302 very similar to this. Same exact design, just smaller.
I've got one kind of like that, it was my Grandfathers saw. It's so old there isn't even a muffler, just a resonator box (?) thing, definitely hearing protection required, it has the manual oiler as well. It calls for gas/oil ratio of 24/1. I found the serial # and it dates to 1965 or 67. I cleaned it up a few years ago and it's a tree eating monster. I've got a newer saw I use 90% of the time but if I have something big that requires more power I drag out the old monster, it never disappoints. Heavy, and noisy but it gets the job done in no time!
Another brilliant video Darren, I'm a car person but the way that you come across on your videos, like we're helping you out, makes me interested in whatever you are working on. Sadly here in the UK we don't have free piles otherwise I'd be bringing home all sorts of projects. At least I've learnt from you how to revive long stood engines... Keep up the fantastic work
Sometimes you can find stuff for free in builders skips. I found a DeWalt brushless cordless drill in a skip and a Makita drill in another. The DeWalt's motor was burnt out. £50 for a new motor and it works perfectly. The Makita just needed taking apart and cleaning. Both these drills cost £150+ new. Also regularly find decent wood.
When sharpening a chain. there are usually two cutters going the same way. That is your starting point, and when you reach those two cutters again you know that side is done. Then sharpen the opposite facing cutters, again using those same facing cutters as a starting point.
Been watching you for about 6 yrs. The first one was you getting rusty out of the field. Great job and please don't stop. I know a video is a lot of work..
That fluid that came out of the chain oiler reservoir looked more like transmission fluid,.....that could be part of the issue too. Way too thin! Good fix Darren.
@@wallacejeffery5786 I do use my used tranny fluid for alot of things, especially when using my drill press. Probably fine for bar lube too. You will just need alot of it. lol
@@duckhunter8387 I've never seen bar and chain oil that wasn't red. Of course, I don't saw much last 20-odd years, but the 70's, 80's, 90's, anything I ever bought was tinted red.
@Madison Hadley you're definitely right. Looks a lot better in Echo colors, only older saws I've been around were McColluch Mac saws, I prefer my huskies now
@@madisonhadley7906 Yep. I've got a 452vl in the original case with original bar and purchase receipt. I kinda had a fetish for collecting saws years ago. My "work" saws are a 500vl and a 51sv. I love em.
I have that exact chainsaw.. said so on the last video when you showed this AMAZING free pile!! I love finding stuff like that!!! That romex is like seriously 150 bucks!!
Echo saw / kioritz corp... A good tool is a timberline chain sharpener. It clamps on the bar & a hand crank turns a carbide cutter, right angles every time.
Bonus episode, not only do we get to check out and fix a John Deere chainsaw acquired free, but Mustie1 tells us more about his youth in what sounds like an ideal basis for a John Landis or Steven Spielberg coming of age movie 😂😂
Nice recovery job! Generally speaking, at least for newer saws, on the carb, you want the "L" adjustment a tad on the rich side, so it will sit and idle for hours, and then when you pull the trigger, right to full speed. The "H" adjustment is pretty much for how fast the chain will go. So you can actually adjust the carb to run the motor to full, and all the way to destruction. So control the top speed with the H adjustment. Just want to share some info I've gleaned over the years working on them. :)
The issue with fueling, if you put the fuel screws back the way you wrote down, you actually flipped them so they're in the wrong places. Watch carefully =)
Yay, story time with Mustie! That takes care of the Sunday night movie, hee! Wow, and this actually brought back a bunch of memories too, from the time I had a week-long course at a forestry school like... 27 years ago to learn handling chainsaws and we had to do all this type of maintenance and all - I most remember the pyramid-shaped files for filing the teeth of the chain; they'd REALLY get on your case if you used a regular flat file, ha. Can't say I remember oilers being on the saws we used, but I do remember they did all have a chainbreak alright! And I remember I once got my saw stuck in a tree that was leaning to one side quite a bit and I cut the wedge for making it fall on the side the tree was leaning away from... 😬
We heated exactly the same way as you described at our camp in Vermont. Our stove glowed red from the coal. We had to open up windows because it got so hot.
Really made my day to check on TH-cam and see a new Mustie1 episode posted. Always a pleasure to see Darren telling us about his latest curbside or garage sales scores. Then into his Mad Scienctist like (his humor and self depreciation joging with us like we're there) horder heaven shop. Next up, on goes an imaginary Herr Doktor Professor Mustie lecture/labhlaabhlav coat and something is gettin' taken apart, investigated, explained, what's needed, repaired, teated and most likely sold to fund more endeavors. Killer stories of his youth a huge bonus. Yuppers, tickles me pink and makes for a very enjoyable morning. Thanks Darren.
I have a John Deere weedwaker - really an Echo. I don't know how old it is. Bought it at a Yard Sale and put on a new carb and runs good. Been using it a few years now. I'm with you on the reading glasses buddy. I can't do anything it seems without them anymore. I'm half way through this one, but I'm sure you will get it running. These older machines just work with a little love. Cheers! 🍻 -Al
Good video Darren, I've have a slightly newer saw for 25 yrs..I cleaned the carb once, and it has never let me down. It always starts I just have to remember to choke, pull it til it pops then 1/2 choke and it runs perfect. Otherwise I will flood the hell out of it!
1989, i was 9 years old, was in the forrest and helping my stepdad felling some timber, my job was to take care of the axes and the wedges and to pay attention, and ofc helping around. my stepdad was adjusting on his jonsered 535 silvertop, he used to say that when it's right it sings on top. I now have that saw on the shelf along with several other chansaws, and i listen for that singing on top when i need to adjust a bit when i'm in the forrest.
Yes, I can't imagine what it was like to cut a whole winters firewood by hand. I do have an old 2 man saw hanging in the barn but it is strictly ornamental!
I have an old-school Craftsman (mid-late 70's) that isn't IDENTICAL, but almost, VERY similar to this. The pull start even makes that same "wheezing" noise. I restored it enough to be usable, with your videos in mind. It works, but the issue with these old saws is they're "slow". Think ~10-12,000 RPM, vs. a modern saw's 18-20,000+ RPM.
@flir67man Yup. The modern 2-stroke ENGINE, mind you, and they do cut a lot faster. But if you're not in a hurry, it's hard to beat both the durability/build quality of these old beasts, as well as that SOUND! My old Craftsman just has this... "snarl"... to it's exhaust note, no modern Husqvarna or Stihl will ever match.
I want to say thank you for your videos. I’ve learned a lot from you and your tinkering. I was able to fix my neighbors chainsaw today in about 15 minutes from watching you with carbs and explaining how they work and what messes them up. Keep up the fantastic work!
Small engine repair has always enticed me since I was a kid working at a go-kart track. Love that you find these poor engines at yard sales only needing a little love to bring them back to life.
I sympathize with the vision challenges. Apparently it is common for most men to need close up vision assistance from about 43/44 yrs. Got me good right about then. Hasn't got much worse since and 71 yrs young now😃🦘🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺. Cheers, Tony Brisbane Queensland Australia
I kinda feel sorry for modern teens - they will never know the fun of riding around with 8-9 people in a '65 Ford Country Sedan, everyone chipping in a quarter or 50 cents to buy gas and have an older sibling pick up a sixer or two so you could ride out to the old deserted mansion in the middle of a field and hang out. If you were lucky you could get a young lovely to squeeze in beside you for the ride back. Them was the days!
Lots fun! But chain should just be tight enough to snap back up by itself. Sharpening, get one of the stihl 2 in 1 sharpeners. Does the tooth and depth Guage at the same time . And you push from the bottom of the tooth angle (closest to the powerhead) towards the tip. You set my teeth on edge ! If you're felling or doing much cutting the chain has Sharpening specs to follow for safest operation. Especially for bore cutting. Dull or not with correct angles performance differences are noticeable. From a 45 year wood heat cutter. Felling, bucking, splitting, the whole shebang.
Right on. I find correct tension is when the tip of a drive link just barely gets to the top of the bar (almost out of the groove) when tugged upward at mid bar. That's with a clean, oiled chain, and after running it a little bit.
Hi Darren, when you picked up the high/low needles from the tray to draw a picture you said “they came out like that right?” I’m pretty sure you turned them around the other way. Then again, it ran well, so I may be full of......let’s call it sawdust! Nice old saw!
I had to rewind at that point and yes he flipped them around, but he didn't show putting them back in so don't know if he caught that mistake, the high side had the longer shank on the needle valve when he took it out.
that sounds like a mccollough to me. i spent many years working on a bridge crew and using a husqvarna saw. we made our own blades from a roll of chain. i sharpened with a rattail by hand. it brings back a lot of bad memories! i started fixing things ( bicycle) when i was 10. moved on to lawnmowers in highschool and as a mechanic in my twenties.
Should have titled this video story time with mustie. Really enjoyed it too. Kioritz were one of the big chainsaw makers along with Shindaiwa, outside of Japan kioritz sold their stuff under the brand name Echo, sometime in the mid 2000s shindaiwa and kioritz (echo) merged into a new company called yamabiko, they still sell power equipment under the same brands (echo/shindaiwa/kioritz) but they are all streamlined into mostly unified parts. Your specific chainsaw is identical (apart from color) to the Echo CS 502VL.. if you have trouble with gaskets etc you'll prob have more look under echo.. I can't remember off hand but I think they have automatic oiling, the plunger is for an extra shot if you are in thick wood / notice the bar getting dry
My dad had one of these saws from John Deere. He got it from an estate sale. If I'm not mistaken Homelite made these for John Deere. I don't delieve they where out very long. We had a 2 John Deere dealers close to our home growing up. They sold snowmobiles, tractors and small engine stuff. That's where he'd get it serviced. After they went out of the chain saw business the mechanic from there said for him to buy Homelite replacement stuff for it cause that actually what it was. I love your videos I have learned a Ton and gained a small amount of knowledge to try this stuff myself.
A free pile with an almost full roll of #12/2 NM with ground? Mustie, you are one lucky dude!
Gotta tell ya, watching your videos has inspired me. We had a council cleanup here in Moss Vale, Australia, which is about the only time you see free piles, and took home a Yard King 138cc mower and a line trimmer. The mower had some handle bolts missing and a small hole in the plastic fuel tank, which I was able to address without any problems. Took down the carb and cleaned it and it runs really well. The line trimmer needed a bit of love with the thing being stored for years with gas in the tank, which had evaporated and the ethanol had turned to tar. So lots of cleaning out the tank, and carb, replaced the fuel lines, filter and gas cap, and it, too, came back to life. Cost me $6 AUD. Couldn't have done it without ya, Thanks.
Excellent score, Martin!! 😃
Was that a 2 Fosters project?
Only e10 or e85 has ethanol in Australia. Try again.
It's called empowerment. It's fun too.
Good on ya, dude!
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And it's somewhat cheaper than 95, so people buy it for their mower. Most servos with E10 don't have a non-ethanol fuel below 95, so if your preferred servo carries E10, and you don't know any better, you're putting that in the mower.
Wife: why dont you take the interstate anymore? Me: there are no Free piles on the instrstate. Wife: sigh.
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Man I love the stories you tell while filming what you do. They're almost as good as watching you fix up old junk. Always look forward to mustie1 Sunday postings.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Thanks Mustie1!
That’s a Echo Chainsaw By Kieoritz Corporation. Re-Branded as a John Deere. 451 is the Model I Think. 1976 Is a Wild Guess for the Date
I was going to comment this same thing! 😄 Thanks
There needs to be a story time special with musty sr!
oh what vi are different, i don like de mumbling stories
I just looked up Cross Castle. Apparently it cost $1.5m to build back in 1907, and the family sold it for just $155,000 in 1919. 12 people were employed full time just to cut wood for the fires!
I had to look it up as well!! He is a great story teller.
That's a huge depreciation. That's worse than a Mercedes Benz depreciates.
war and depression
Mustie will forever be the best person to hang out with in the garage, knowledge, awesome stories, a great time
You're a really good story teller, Darren.
Better than. Steven king
I would listen to mustie1 story podcast!
@@Mitsubishigarage me too.
1:00:20 talk about realism, as soon as the screen got splashed I jerked my head back! What a chuckle! Good work Mustie1…
@@geoffquickfall Sorry i'm a bit late Geoff (3 weeks late). Came to say the same thing. We have been bumped into, dropped, knocked and near-misses, but I think this is the first time we got a full squirt in the eye. And the vision was blurred as the liquid ran down the lens, felt like I had been blinded. 😉
Yes, funny that it almost felt real. Good on ya.
Your description of growing up burning wood and coal sure brought back memories. We too burned wood/coal. Had heat in two rooms. Kitchen and bathroom. Banking the fire every night. Getting up at 5 am to get the fire back up. Shaking down the shaker grate in the morning. And recharging with wood and coal. Taking out the ashes every morning and spreading on the compost pile. Cutting and chopping lots and LOTS of firewood. Dad would get coal in larger chunks as it was cheaper. My brother and I would use sledge hammers to break it down then shovel down the coal shoot. Always smelled like wood smoke and coal dust. Kids at school would make fun of us for how we smelled and how stained/rough our hands were. How dirty our boots were. When I got to boot camp after high school couldn’t believe I didn’t have to get up and tend the stove. Actually got to sleep in until 530am. Still woke up at 5 and silently got ready for am PT. Always the first one out of the barracks, bunk made, foot locker squared away. About day 4 or 5 of boot camp, DS asked me, “You’re a farm boy right?” “YES SERGEANT!” He winked at me and said, “Me too” Then chewed me out for some perceived infraction. That was a long time ago. Thanks for the videos and the commentary. Hadn’t thought about those things in over 45 years.
I feel like I'm in a small engine repair class, and Mustie is the instructor. I always learn something new when I watch your channel. Very informative. And, well photographed and edited, we appreciate your effort. Thanks
What he said. Thanks, Darren!
Probably just a normal comment for you, but i watch Alot of youtubers fixing everuthing from chainsaws to 80 tons excavators, but im absolutely looking more forward to your videos. Its just like fixing things with a best friend IRL. Thanks for being you, and showing us a great time bud! Regards from Norway!
Mustie is the best - he's got a great, relaxed personality, doesn't use annoying music in his videos, knows what he's talking about and takes the time to explain things while casually chatting to his viewers. Can't really fault the guy, this is easily my favorite repair/maintenance channel.
Helt enig. It's a pity that we don't have the same culture in Norway with free stuff at the side of the road. Every thing goes to the recycle centers and we are not allowed to pick anything there.
@@Frank-Thoresen that sucks...
Been watching Darren for years now.. Always great content and dialogue. The dialogue really makes it. You should also like Rainman Rays repairs.. Another channel I watch religiously. Daily content too.
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This saw is the same as the echo 452vl. It has an auto oiler as well. It also has points ignition. On echos, the VL is vibration dampen, and the EVL is electronic ignition and vibration dampening. Cool saw.
I have a JD 66SV. I have been looking for a coil.
Yup, I own Echo's for the last 40 plus years and imo right up there with the Steelie... the 14'', was my first & the best, extremely light as a feather, which did 75% of the work. & loved the re fueling & oil being on the top...
I still have my Echo after 50y
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Starts on the first pull every time
Ive been here, a subscriber for years and am super impressed with how little your channel has changed over time , I've seen so much growth but so little change. Awesome dude and a awesome time hanging out in the shop. I thank you Darren for all the great memories and learning experiences. I started watching when I was about 17 or so and never miss a video! Not asking for any praise I'm just expressing how great you and your content is!! Keep it up!
Wow, thank you!
@@mustie1 my guess is poulon or scagg. The only reason for it to say John deere is advertising
How Mustie keeps his shop clean considering the flying dirt, dust, oil, and rodent remains is most impressive.
As a young man I worked in a wood and metal shop that built restaurant tables and booths. It takes a lot of compressed air and push brooms to keep it clean. The last hour or so of the workday was for clean-up. The shop manager/co-owner would do a walk through inspection on occasion and if the shop wasn’t clean enough we couldn’t punch out on the time clock and get our weekly paychecks. Inspections were usually on Thursday. We worked 4, 10 hour days. So on Thursday we made sure to clean very well because a bunch of you folks wanted those paychecks and start to party for our 3 day weekend!😂
When I worked at a outdoor equipment dealer we used a backpack blower to clean the shop. Open the door and blow it all outside.
@@dennisphilbrick1623 ? Why you say that?
@@dennisphilbrick1623 Quite simple: he is a project man who does this find/repair/sometimes flip it for profit scheme on the regular and he keeps the camera on. That's how he does it and he found it out makes him more and more money as the channel grows. No big mystery there--he's one of the busiest men out there
@@dennisphilbrick1623 No it isn't. The "biggest" question is, "How is it that you don't get it?"
EDIT: UPDATE: To "plagiarize" Fred Meyer, "I'm sure he makes a lot more money from the TH-cam monetization than" YOU DO IN MOMMY'S BASEMENT!!
My favorite part of these videos is the way Mustie just laughs whenever he comes across something that is crusty or busted on whatever he is working on. Great content, love watching!
I always enjoy listening to Mustie's stories while he's working on stuff 🙂
Definitely. The stories are brilliant
Home of the Highlanders, class of '85!
Mustie1, great to hear these stories, 100% facts. I'm from the same neck of the woods, Northern NJ. So cool to hear the stories continue to carry the legend. Clinton Road and the history behind it are still alive and well!! Keep the stories alive! Cheers!😎
Usually in the fall people would come into the shop with their chainsaws (not this vintage though) and complain about it not running after they got it started. The primary reason for that usually was because the muffler was packed with residue from the 2-cycle oil. A quick burnout of the spark arrestor with a propane torch and a saw would run after starting, then we sold them a chain sharpening, bar, or whatever we found looking it over. It wasn't to gouge them, but homeowners as a rule need guidance on small engines to steer them toward repairs they wouldn't necessarily think to do themselves. We never pushed, but more often than not they would go with our suggestions. Our best day was when I processed 300 repair tickets and called back 150 the same day to pick their equipment up. There were 3 small engine repair mechanics and one specifically for the 2-Cycle jobs. No piles are available here on the curb like this, but my family does attend estate sales and often get things like this that just need a little bit of care, and then we turn around and sell them.
Awhile back my dad's weed eator just stopped running one day and I looked at it and that's what it was the spark arrestor was clogged, luckily it was removable so I cleaned it and it ran like brand new
Yeah I had a Stihl chainsaw and it was running terrible and I bought another $2 carburetor for that didn't help. Until I looked in the spark arrestor which was packed full of look like lava rocks 😦
if the spark screen is plugged they use shit oil and/or too much.
@@alexstromberg7696 yeah that's my idea if a little oil in the gas is good maybe a little more oil will protect it more. 🤔😦
I used to pour diesel or kerosene In the mufflers and burn em out
"let's see how it works"..few content providers say that..and like when Mustie takes that extra step..knowledge and understanding is the best teacher..thx Mustie
Hey, Mustie! I was raised in Passaic, NJ and used to go to Greenwood Lake when the drinking age in NY was 18. The cops used to wait for us on Clinton Rd as we came out of NY and try to pick us off for DUI. I never got caught but some of my friends did. That was back in early 70's. To quote an old song: "Those were the days my friend".
My old stomping grounds in the 60-70's also fun place to grow up.
I grew up in Summit New Jersey and we'd take the train into the City and hit the bars to get loaded when we were underage. The only ID we ever needed was cold hard cash. If you could pay for drinks they'd serve us. We loved it. Then going home we'd buy beers in a deli and brown bag those on the train. We were delinquents.
Mustie1 - Unlike most chainsaw bars, the one on that wee John Deere has a "right way" and a "wrong way" to mount. Currently it is the right way round at the start of the video! From memory they were a low kickback design from Oregon. The saw is a Kioritz Echo - built and branded for John Deere. There are collectors for the JD and Echo saws.
You would not have coil for a JD66SV
I agree it’s an early Echo , with cleaning up it will be a good running saw.
Japanese saw.
I have never owned a chain saw, but I learned so much about the blade, adjusting, sharpening, etc. Thanks Darren!
Chainsaws don't have "blades", knives have blades, chainsaws have bars.
Curb treasure is always the best. Sounds like that's got a little life left in it
FYI the flat file in the kit is for lowering the rakers as the chain wears, but certainly can be used to clean up the bar as well.
Made by Echo. Same as their CS452VL. Apparently the oiler is automatic with manual override. If it had a chain brake it would be a beast.
The brake burnt out on my saw years ago. I don't need brakes on a chainsaw. I just need them to go.
Yep it does have both, like most older saws
My 750EVL is a beast! Almost 80 CC’s…..
On the end of the bar, there is a small hole next to the sprocket. I'll usually put the tip of my grease gun against it and give it a squirt. The bar chain oil doesn't get down to that bearing, so a bit of tacky grease helps.
I occasionally take the bar and chain off for a full cleaning of sawdust in the bar track and sprocket area. After it's clean, I'll dump an ounce out so of oil on the side of the bar and work it into the track and sprocket area. Then reattach to the saw with the chain and dribble a little more on. Then after a few minutes of setting I'll fire it up to fling off the excess and it's good to go. I also turn my oilers up to max output. Cheaper to use more oil than burning up motors and bar/chain combos
Those JD saws were made by Echo (made in Japan). I've worked on a bunch of them.
Hi Mustie, on almost all two stroke, the needle closest to the engine is low mixture, and initial setting is 1 1/2 turns for low, and 3/4 for high. Love watching you!!!
Mustie1, how do you always give us good views to everything you are doing? You get shots of impossible angles so we see exactly what your doing. I have been following you for years and your second to none. Good stuff man. I feel like i am on the side of you.
My father's chore as a boy was taking the ashes out of the coal fired heater and this was in Philadelphia, but it was in the 40s. The main choices back then was purchase steam generated in a central plant or coal. My father used to tell me how when his neighbor's steam pipes would fail, the whole house would fill with steam.
A lot of older homes in places like Philadelphia have a coal storage room in the basement under the front porch. There would be a window facing the street (under the porch) where the coal would be loaded into the house.
All the stuff you're describing about the area of North Jersey you grew up in, I heard all the same stories about the Pine Barrens in South Jersey. We would call the people living in the Pine Barrens "Pineys" The Pine Barrens are huge and at a minimum go well into central Jersey. I like camping in the Pine Barrens. Lots of fun.
Super video Darren. You really do have a lot of patience and knowledge. Many thanks.
Loved the story about the old castle. They used to have Jungle Habitat by the lake and there were all sorts of stories of animals getting lose and dying in the winter. The chainsaw saying Canada and Japan on it is similar to band instruments from the 80’s and 90’s. Yamaha USA would be parts manufactured in Japan but assembled in the US. Then when that got too expensive assembly went to Canada, then Mexico, Taiwan and finally good old China. I have a 38 year old John Deere 2 stage snowblower. It was my Dads and I had to have it when he passed. I emptied the gas tank on it and it’s been in the garage for years now. Lots of stuff I’d like to get to but I don’t have the time. Sax
Good old China??
@@shannonwittman950 our balloon buddies…lol
That saw was built for Deere by Echo (Kioritz) in Japan. Probably early 70’s since no chain brake. I had an Echo 302 very similar to this. Same exact design, just smaller.
I absolutely love the stories of old times . You sure know how to keep a guy tuned in
I grew up in New Jersey and absolutely know about Clinton Road. Your story made me smile... huge smile.😄
Genius. Never cease to amaze. Thank you for creating and posting these videos. You inspire me to get out there and get things done.
This video brought back the nostalgia of your home shop videos a little bit. Good times.
I've got one kind of like that, it was my Grandfathers saw. It's so old there isn't even a muffler, just a resonator box (?) thing, definitely hearing protection required, it has the manual oiler as well. It calls for gas/oil ratio of 24/1. I found the serial # and it dates to 1965 or 67. I cleaned it up a few years ago and it's a tree eating monster. I've got a newer saw I use 90% of the time but if I have something big that requires more power I drag out the old monster, it never disappoints. Heavy, and noisy but it gets the job done in no time!
...good ole bark box 👍🏻💪😆
My Sunday mornings start with a hot cup of strong coffee and a new vid from Mustie!!! Thanks man!!!!!👍
Nothing runs like a Deere Mustie!. Love your video my guy. Thank you for a relaxing Sunday
Thanks Darren; I enjoy your stories - makes me feel I’m watching over your shoulder and getting to know you a bit better.
Another brilliant video Darren, I'm a car person but the way that you come across on your videos, like we're helping you out, makes me interested in whatever you are working on.
Sadly here in the UK we don't have free piles otherwise I'd be bringing home all sorts of projects.
At least I've learnt from you how to revive long stood engines... Keep up the fantastic work
Sometimes you can find stuff for free in builders skips. I found a DeWalt brushless cordless drill in a skip and a Makita drill in another. The DeWalt's motor was burnt out. £50 for a new motor and it works perfectly. The Makita just needed taking apart and cleaning. Both these drills cost £150+ new. Also regularly find decent wood.
Never found any petrol powered tools though.
That style of John Deere chainsaw is fantastic. I’ve used them a lot and it seems like every farmer in my area has one lol
When sharpening a chain. there are usually two cutters going the same way. That is your starting point, and when you reach those two cutters again you know that side is done. Then sharpen the opposite facing cutters, again using those same facing cutters as a starting point.
6am CST on A Sunday means Mustie1 video. Coffee ready to watch a video
I do really love the stories while fixing stuff. Thank you!
Made by Kioritz per the tag. They made the good, and older Echo equipment.
Great video
Been watching you for about 6 yrs. The first one was you getting rusty out of the field. Great job and please don't stop. I know a video is a lot of work..
$100 roll Romex right off the bat. Can't beat that.
Thanks for delving into the many dark secrets of the chainsaw . I appreciate it .
Good Morning from the Colorado Rockies! Coffee and Mustie1. No better way to start a Sunday morning!
Agreed lol Cheers David.
That fluid that came out of the chain oiler reservoir looked more like transmission fluid,.....that could be part of the issue too. Way too thin! Good fix Darren.
Thought the same, plus I have never seen red bar oil.
Yep, trans fluid for sure
@@wallacejeffery5786 I do use my used tranny fluid for alot of things, especially when using my drill press. Probably fine for bar lube too. You will just need alot of it. lol
@@duckhunter8387 I've never seen bar and chain oil that wasn't red. Of course, I don't saw much last 20-odd years, but the 70's, 80's, 90's, anything I ever bought was tinted red.
@@stanpatterson5033 Interesting!
I wish we had free piles like this. That saw looks a lot like a homelite to me
a gussied up Super XL by the look
It is Made by echo. Some john deeres were homelites, but this is made by echo. Same as an echo 452vl
@Madison Hadley you're definitely right. Looks a lot better in Echo colors, only older saws I've been around were McColluch Mac saws, I prefer my huskies now
I had a snapper chainsaw and it was a made by homelite forget which model it was it was a while ago.
@@madisonhadley7906 Yep. I've got a 452vl in the original case with original bar and purchase receipt. I kinda had a fetish for collecting saws years ago. My "work" saws are a 500vl and a 51sv. I love em.
I have that exact chainsaw.. said so on the last video when you showed this AMAZING free pile!! I love finding stuff like that!!! That romex is like seriously 150 bucks!!
Echo saw / kioritz corp... A good tool is a timberline chain sharpener. It clamps on the bar & a hand crank turns a carbide cutter, right angles every time.
homelite
@@Bill-xc8le Yah there are J.d Homelites, this ones Kioritz @ 49:35
Man, you are amazing, you can fix anything ! It is a real pleasure to watch and learn from you. Thank you!
Bonus episode, not only do we get to check out and fix a John Deere chainsaw acquired free, but Mustie1 tells us more about his youth in what sounds like an ideal basis for a John Landis or Steven Spielberg coming of age movie 😂😂
Given the castle story, more like a Stephen King coming of age horror film?
@@Jesselovespinball it wasn't the pine barrens, that's in southern Jersey. It was North Jersey.
@@Jesselovespinballlike the Jersey Devil.
There's actually a movie, "Class Action Park" about the place he talked about previously.
Nice recovery job! Generally speaking, at least for newer saws, on the carb, you want the "L" adjustment a tad on the rich side, so it will sit and idle for hours, and then when you pull the trigger, right to full speed. The "H" adjustment is pretty much for how fast the chain will go. So you can actually adjust the carb to run the motor to full, and all the way to destruction. So control the top speed with the H adjustment. Just want to share some info I've gleaned over the years working on them. :)
Mustie reminds me so much of myself, just love tinkering with small engine machines it's so much joy.
The issue with fueling, if you put the fuel screws back the way you wrote down, you actually flipped them so they're in the wrong places. Watch carefully =)
That's a great little saw to have when you get your big saw pinched in a tree. I always have a little backup around. Great video.
Makes me want to go out and work on my old saw that hasn’t been run in 5 years .
Mustie, THANX for the explainations an pointing to the parts.
Been enjoying your videos for years.
You make me laugh when I watch you videos.
Yay, story time with Mustie! That takes care of the Sunday night movie, hee! Wow, and this actually brought back a bunch of memories too, from the time I had a week-long course at a forestry school like... 27 years ago to learn handling chainsaws and we had to do all this type of maintenance and all - I most remember the pyramid-shaped files for filing the teeth of the chain; they'd REALLY get on your case if you used a regular flat file, ha. Can't say I remember oilers being on the saws we used, but I do remember they did all have a chainbreak alright! And I remember I once got my saw stuck in a tree that was leaning to one side quite a bit and I cut the wedge for making it fall on the side the tree was leaning away from... 😬
The tone of your voice is so relaxing, mustie, it’s like a balm especially when your up to your elbows in things involving old vw, and lots of rust,
We heated exactly the same way as you described at our camp in Vermont. Our stove glowed red from the coal. We had to open up windows because it got so hot.
Really enjoy the small engine videos. Most informative 👌
Good job, Mustie...not too bad for a clapped out chain. I believe Kioritz makes Echo...which are still pretty popular, and not too bad of chainsaws.
Thank you for the small engine work. Because of you and the great videos I have revived a few older machines.
Really made my day to check on TH-cam and see a new Mustie1 episode posted.
Always a pleasure to see Darren telling us about his latest curbside or garage sales scores.
Then into his Mad Scienctist like (his humor and self depreciation joging with us like we're there) horder heaven shop.
Next up, on goes an imaginary Herr Doktor Professor Mustie lecture/labhlaabhlav coat and something is gettin' taken apart, investigated, explained, what's needed, repaired, teated and most likely sold to fund more endeavors.
Killer stories of his youth a huge bonus.
Yuppers, tickles me pink and makes for a very enjoyable morning.
Thanks Darren.
I have a John Deere weedwaker - really an Echo. I don't know how old it is.
Bought it at a Yard Sale and put on a new carb and runs good. Been using
it a few years now. I'm with you on the reading glasses buddy. I can't do
anything it seems without them anymore. I'm half way through this one, but
I'm sure you will get it running. These older machines just work with a
little love. Cheers! 🍻 -Al
I was thinking echo as well
Good video Darren, I've have a slightly newer saw for 25 yrs..I cleaned the carb once, and it has never let me down. It always starts I just have to remember to choke, pull it til it pops then 1/2 choke and it runs perfect. Otherwise I will flood the hell out of it!
A cup of tea and a mustie video on a Sunday early pm here in Norwich uk… perfect, thank you..
1989, i was 9 years old, was in the forrest and helping my stepdad felling some timber, my job was to take care of the axes and the wedges and to pay attention, and ofc helping around. my stepdad was adjusting on his jonsered 535 silvertop, he used to say that when it's right it sings on top. I now have that saw on the shelf along with several other chansaws, and i listen for that singing on top when i need to adjust a bit when i'm in the forrest.
That's a Kioritz, which was the parent company of Echo. Now known as Yamabiko. They still make Echo, Shindaiwa, etc.
Great job Mustie. You brought it back to life.
Yes, I can't imagine what it was like to cut a whole winters firewood by hand. I do have an old 2 man saw hanging in the barn but it is strictly ornamental!
As always...A pleasure to watch these vlogs every (most) Sundays. Mary-Ann is spoiling you with the home cooking.
Take care,
Regards Steve in the UK
I literally jumped and closed my eyes when that carb cleaner hit the camera. From now on, I'm wearing safety googles when I watch Mustie. ;)
Thanks for the complete breakdown, a lot of guys only show the fuel aspect of repair .
I have an old-school Craftsman (mid-late 70's) that isn't IDENTICAL, but almost, VERY similar to this. The pull start even makes that same "wheezing" noise.
I restored it enough to be usable, with your videos in mind. It works, but the issue with these old saws is they're "slow". Think ~10-12,000 RPM, vs. a modern saw's 18-20,000+ RPM.
Modern saw is 18-20,000rpm.. holyshit…
@flir67man Yup. The modern 2-stroke ENGINE, mind you, and they do cut a lot faster.
But if you're not in a hurry, it's hard to beat both the durability/build quality of these old beasts, as well as that SOUND!
My old Craftsman just has this... "snarl"... to it's exhaust note, no modern Husqvarna or Stihl will ever match.
I want to say thank you for your videos. I’ve learned a lot from you and your tinkering. I was able to fix my neighbors chainsaw today in about 15 minutes from watching you with carbs and explaining how they work and what messes them up. Keep up the fantastic work!
I have one nearly identical to that one, but mine is an old Pioneer-branded one from the 80s.
great job taking-it apart, cleaning-it and putting-it back together. runs and sounds good.
The day just got better with a Mustie1 video
Small engine repair has always enticed me since I was a kid working at a go-kart track. Love that you find these poor engines at yard sales only needing a little love to bring them back to life.
Looks similar to an old echo saw i have a 302 with exactly the same caps and oil adjusting knob
I also have an Echo 302, a friend of mine gave me his before he died. My dad had one for years and years, I have it now.
@@MegaDirtyberty they are bloody good !
@@adamfletcher4262 Dad raved about his, I intend to put his back together and give it back to him.
I sympathize with the vision challenges. Apparently it is common for most men to need close up vision assistance from about 43/44 yrs.
Got me good right about then. Hasn't got much worse since and 71 yrs young now😃🦘🦘🦘🦘🇦🇺. Cheers, Tony
Brisbane Queensland Australia
I kinda feel sorry for modern teens - they will never know the fun of riding around with 8-9 people in a '65 Ford Country Sedan, everyone chipping in a quarter or 50 cents to buy gas and have an older sibling pick up a sixer or two so you could ride out to the old deserted mansion in the middle of a field and hang out. If you were lucky you could get a young lovely to squeeze in beside you for the ride back. Them was the days!
I have used chainsaws a lot over the years but your expertise is much more complete and I learn from you. Also much enjoy the stories
ok....who else jumped when that spray hit the camera? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s the reason I went to comment section.
😎👍
It has the same effect as a spider jump scare video.
I love it when you do old small engines. Your fine tuning is superb. Young Mustie stories are good too.
Good morning Mustie family time for coffee and hang out with Darren in the shop.
No matter the outcome your videos never suck brother
It's an Echo branded as a JD. Just picked one up the other day too. Cool saws.
Lots fun!
But chain should just be tight enough to snap back up by itself.
Sharpening, get one of the stihl 2 in 1 sharpeners. Does the tooth and depth Guage at the same time . And you push from the bottom of the tooth angle (closest to the powerhead) towards the tip. You set my teeth on edge !
If you're felling or doing much cutting the chain has Sharpening specs to follow for safest operation. Especially for bore cutting. Dull or not with correct angles performance differences are noticeable.
From a 45 year wood heat cutter. Felling, bucking, splitting, the whole shebang.
Right on.
I find correct tension is when the tip of a drive link just barely gets to the top of the bar (almost out of the groove) when tugged upward at mid bar. That's with a clean, oiled chain, and after running it a little bit.
Nothing runs like a Deere! Thanks Mustie! 😀👍
Hi Darren, when you picked up the high/low needles from the tray to draw a picture you said “they came out like that right?” I’m pretty sure you turned them around the other way. Then again, it ran well, so I may be full of......let’s call it sawdust! Nice old saw!
I had to rewind at that point and yes he flipped them around, but he didn't show putting them back in so don't know if he caught that mistake, the high side had the longer shank on the needle valve when he took it out.
that sounds like a mccollough to me. i spent many years working on a bridge crew and using a husqvarna saw. we made our
own blades from a roll of chain. i sharpened with a rattail by hand. it brings back a lot of bad memories! i started fixing
things ( bicycle) when i was 10. moved on to lawnmowers in highschool and as a mechanic in my twenties.
Should have titled this video story time with mustie. Really enjoyed it too. Kioritz were one of the big chainsaw makers along with Shindaiwa, outside of Japan kioritz sold their stuff under the brand name Echo, sometime in the mid 2000s shindaiwa and kioritz (echo) merged into a new company called yamabiko, they still sell power equipment under the same brands (echo/shindaiwa/kioritz) but they are all streamlined into mostly unified parts.
Your specific chainsaw is identical (apart from color) to the Echo CS 502VL.. if you have trouble with gaskets etc you'll prob have more look under echo.. I can't remember off hand but I think they have automatic oiling, the plunger is for an extra shot if you are in thick wood / notice the bar getting dry
Domo arigato
My dad had one of these saws from John Deere. He got it from an estate sale. If I'm not mistaken Homelite made these for John Deere. I don't delieve they where out very long. We had a 2 John Deere dealers close to our home growing up. They sold snowmobiles, tractors and small engine stuff. That's where he'd get it serviced. After they went out of the chain saw business the mechanic from there said for him to buy Homelite replacement stuff for it cause that actually what it was.
I love your videos I have learned a Ton and gained a small amount of knowledge to try this stuff myself.
Good Morning everyone.
Good morning to you good Sir.
Good morning sir from the UK
@@chrispbacon3042good morning to everyone. We are 13 hours ahead of mustie time over here. I will watch this video while preparing to go to bed ☺️
That's a good saw,better than the garbage they sell nowadays.