This episode fleshes Jean out as one of my favourite characters. He's the most human and the most conflicted, Marco's death shaped who he is and he'd be damned if he put his own selfish wants ahead of his sense of duty after all this time.
I mean is it really selfish to want to survive? He's definitely the most realistic thought hes the literal only one bringing up the elephant in the room that stopping Eren with no actual plans after means your own genocide so her saying genocide is wrong while not having plans to stop their genocide is the same thing
@@nnightkingj Self preservation to live a comfortable life as part of a fascist regime is pretty selfish, whereas its pretty selfless to fight for the survival of the many, regardless of their hatred of him.
I think Marcos death also made Jean have a huge self realisation as he was a cocky brat who had a huge ego but after Marcos death I think he learned to take things more seriously or else more of his friends could die. It was a huge turning point for him
@@nnightkingj Eren could easily defend himself with the founder's power. He just didn't want to risk his people, and was egostic like Rainer, except that he is an adult and knows both sides better.
Annie wasn't joking, or being a bitch when she said "What about me?" To Jean. The anime cut out a line (botching the scene, imo.). Immediately after Jean says to Reiner "I'm not apologizing. . " and Reiner says "That's fine." Jean says, "I can't forgive you. . " THATS what Annie was replying to. She was asking if he considered her unforgivable, not asking him for an apology. I made this comment before, but since comments were correcting me I was afraid I was spreading misinformation and deleted it. Here's the correction, guys!
This episode embodies what Sasha Braus' father has been preaching all along. It opens with a shot of potatoes, features so many shots of leaves, trees and the forest that they are in, and in the end they all leave it together.
The Directionstyle of this Ep especially was inspired by the Dialogue-Tensionbuildingstyle that HunterxHunter frequently use to talk things out. It's about flashing pictures of backround stuff while having the dialogue underlined with clear voice acting. They dont use much music this ep mostly disturbing notelines w. piano and really just focus on getting a point together. Many people hated this Ep bc of the silence and not much action sequences but much frozen pictures. For me thats again an 10/10 Artpiece and again nails Aot to one of the best thought of Stories to exist rn. The introduction where Hange's recalling to the ''Fallen Comrades'' was so emotional and showed her impersonating Erwin's position while showing us the goal we have now. And Gabi's voice acting at the end again, damn i just love her character.
I feel like for a lot of the people in Paradis (it's that how it's spelled?), the "ouside world" is just a concept that doesn't hold any actual weight, that's why so many of them celebrate what Eren is doing. They lived their entire lives in that same place thinking there was nothing out there other than death and evil enemies trying to kill them and for all they know, that's still the case. I think that's what Hange was talking about, the scout did go out there, they did see the innocent people, so they can't hide behind the excuse of "oh I didn't know there were good people there" anymore.
I can imagine that for many people inside the walls, nothing's really changed about their viewpoint from outside the walls from before the basement and after the basement. They likely still perceive it as monsters keeping them in their cage. They see the people outside the walls as equivalent to the titans once keeping them locked, which is a really interesting parallel to how the people of Marley view the Eldians. The only real difference is that popular opinion has shifted from "Titans are unbeatable, let's just sit in the walls." to "These MONSTROUS humans ARENT unbeatable, let's kill em all!"
This episode is also one of my favorites in the whole series. Just amazing all the conversations in the forest, and hange's and Jean's mental picture of former scouts. Plus you finally see the progress of these 2 sides just finally talking. It's so cathartic! Amazing 👏
One of my favorite episodes. Of course I like the ones that skip the intro altogether like this one (my favorite is Midnight Sun). And for an episode to showcase my favorite character, Jean. He was able to give Reinier something he'd always wanted, and couldn't even get from Eren - judgment and some sort of retaliation/punishment. And the reaction to this episode - I wasn't expecting it. Awesome reaction.
Well in the manga, by this point the ackermans were already explained fully but mappa cut it. In the episode savagery, they were supposed to explain ackerman powers.
One of the most underrated episode in AoT. This episode put most of the fans arguments about the alliance and let the characters discuss it between them.
This is one of my fave episodes!💕 The dialogue through it is amazing and even the intense moments. Felt super bad for Jean seeing him constantly covering his ears, even after beating up Reiner he went to the forest covering his ears.💔
We haven't talk this through,such a strong line it sad to see it took them so long to have this . Before rumbling each of them wanted to kill each other and it took such a major step taken by Eren to make them come together and talk this through .
Yelena stirring the pot ironically brought them closer together by putting it all out there and letting them come to terms with it and form some level of closure.
7:28 everything in AOT is foreshadowed even this :) On a beautiful day Yelena and Pixis drank a glass of Wine together when Pixis said: Do you know how to tell a good lie?, you have to mix in some of the truth. Little did Pixis know every he was drinking spinal fluid, which didn't effect Yelena as she's not an Eldian and therefore can't become a Titan even if Zeke screams.
Yeah, At first we all thought that the Eldian empire and its history was something invented by Marley to justify his actions, now after seeing Ymir's flashback we see that it is true. Still nothing justifiable but at least we know it's true. In 2000 years many people died devoured, annihilated families, children, young people, etc. Still, as the story is focused on the Paradisians we feel sorry for them. They have all suffered. But still Paradise got the worst of it all. Well, there were many devoured in ignorance, crushed and sacrificing their lives for absolutely nothing.
Magath is wrong though the Eldians alive today not only didn't do anything wrong and all the guilty ones are long dead they didn't even have memories of their crimes while magath actively participated in the same crimes the past eldian empire did that they crucify the current eldians for
The beginning of the episode with Jean thinking about Marco really got me in the feels. Jean has always been one of my favorite characters. He was really smug and full of himself when the show first started. But we've slowly seen him become someone who is willing to become a leader. He can't just give up and relax like Floch wanted him to. Because then he'd feel like he was disappointing Marco. Yelena: Oh? You want to call me out? That's cool. How about I pull out some receipts then? Also, people have been saying Floch only cares about power. But this episode kinda disproves that. If he really cared about being in charge, he could've just as easily sent someone he trusted to take his place. But him going to the front lines himself and potentially putting his life on the line shows how devoted he is to save Eldia. He's willing to be that Devil to ensure his people's safety. The Devil he saw in Erwin and Eren. But just like I can like both Reiner and Eren, I like both Jean and Floch as characters. Even if they're fighting on opposing sides right now.
Floch laughed about the fact that some of his people will turn into titans. He didn't care about the people who died when the walls collapsed. He only want the glory by restoring the eldian empire
@@neh4797 Well, most of the people turned into titans were MP's. And Floch's experience with the MP's are that they're lazy, corrupt, and they tried to take Eren's powers away. They even had a secret division that "disappeared" people whenever they wanted to learn the truth of the world. Does that mean every MP is the worst of the worst? No. But, I can definitely see why Floch doesn't really care about them. Also, of course Floch has no time to think about the people crushed by the wall. With Eren gone, he has to be the leader of the Yeagerists. He has to keep Paradise together and ensure Eren succeeds. Are you expecting him to just burst out in tears? The point of Eren, Erwin, and Floch is that they're all willing to make heartless decisions if it means achieving victory.
Jean was thinking about Mikasa , not Marco He never gave 2 shits about anyone but himself, that's why Sasha died or rather he let Sasha die so he can blame Eren
@@neh4797 Well, the scene you brought up only discusses MP's. Plus, Floch isn't even the one who devised this plan. It was Zeke and Yelena's plan. So I'm not sure why you're so set on blaming him.
Yes, of course it would be ideal for everyone to try to understand each other and thus consequently see that in the end Wars and conflicts in general are a disgrace, but what Attack on Titan is showing well is that in the end what matters is WHO HAS THE POWER to make something happen by force, because no matter how much arguments or justifications one side has before the other, even if it is correct or at least a little less wrong, if it is the weakest, it will be subjugated by the other..
Jean's hatred is understandable for everything that Reiner and Annie did, but, as Yelena said, he and others (such as Armin) also did questionable things, although there is also the issue of the war, in which, it is not that Justify any immoral and heartless act if it doesn't become more understandable. Something similar is the rumble of Eren, the death of thousands of people CANNOT be morally justified, however, Paradis is at war, and, if we think about it, it has been since they invaded its territory years ago, a situation like this does not leave many options and if the eldianos of paradis had to choose between being destroyed or supporting a movement that seeks to destroy their enemies, and save them, they would choose the second option, stop a genocide with another genocide.
It's okay if Jean can't forgive Reiner, he doesn't need to be his buddy, the important thing is that he doesn't want to take revenge and can tolerate and live with Reiner. Maybe he can forgive in time. If all could you that, there wouldn't be a problem. As to the Rumbling: no. You can't equalize genocides, what Eren does is unforgivable. He will kill billions that never did anything to Eldians, maybe never even saw one. Paradise could have fought a defensive war with a part of the Rumbling, just defend their shores and from there on go with diplomacy, try to win allies and convince the world they aren't monsters. The untold numbers of colossals are expendable soldiers. Maybe the Founder can change Eldian DNA to remove the ability to turn Titan. There would be options
@@EnCey2 Of course, if everyone could forgive, the world of snk it would be different. now regarding the rumble, Of course, what Eren does is unforgivable, and that a defensive strategy would be "better", but there are some points that I think are interesting, 1) It is true that the eldians of the world never did any physical harm to the dianos of paradise, but they do consider them demons and support Marley to destroy them. 2) All the eldians of the world and other countries would never accept a real peaceful solution to the conflict (it was they who declared war), and if paradise decide to do a "mini rumbling" they would be confirming to the world that they are "demons" by returning to use the titans to face them (sounds hypocritical but they think so) 3) The hate would not end, especially during and after a war, and that is what Eren wanted to end 4) Sooner or later Eldia would be defeated since she couldn't modernize (because the world would attack Hizuru and paradise couldn't defend it if the intention is to have a defensive posture)
@@EnCey2 their only chance of diplomacy was with Willy tybur. He was the only one who could’ve change things for the better for both sides. Had the azimbitos brought him up Ana try to see if they could set a private meeting with hange and friends then they could’ve came up with some benefits for paradis and Marley and maybe later the world. Now do note that this is just a possibility. They’ve already thought about diplomatic solutions, but just went about it the wrong way or relied on the wrong people. Also Eren understands what he’s planning to do. What he wants is to protect his people and his friends forever. That and the fact that he simply hate the outside world.
When Hange states that the members of the SC that died would not support the rumbling, she quite frankly wrong. They died without knowing about the outside world and how they caused the living hell with titans on Paradis. People often say "Marley's understandable, but not the whole world." This is genocide, arguing scale doesn't improve the situation. Marley actually seems to treat Eldians the best outside of nations such as Hizuru. Jean is absolutely right, stopping Eren guarantees the destruction of the island. The entirety of Part 2 was, "Marley invades and tries to wipe out Paradis, Eren commences Rumbling to genocide the world." I think I'll take Paradis over a brainwashed outside world that follows a false truth. At the end of the day, these are fictitious events and are not real.
The nature of a hero is that they are self-sacrificing. The scouts understand that not everyone outside of the walls are evil. In fact, the majority couldn't care less about whether you are eldian or not, they just want to go on with their lives (as seen in 4x28). Killing _everyone_ just in case they might not like eldians is the equivalent of saying you and me, innocent people, should die for the discrimination of racist people. If the jews, who were brought to the brink of extinction after the holocaust, decided that to protect themselves and their own loved ones, they were going to kill everyone else in the world, do you think they would be justified? Would you be fine sitting where you are right now and a giant foot crushes you and your family? The scouts just have a high enough amount of moral integrity to sacrifice themselves for a greater good. Some of them stumble at times, such as Connie nearly surrendering to his emotions and bringing back his mother, but in the end they stay rational, and decide to risk the thousands in the walls to save the billions outside of them, because inside the walls and across the sea, its all the same. Eren was pushed into believing that the genocide plan was the right answer by a few things. 1. he watched his mother die powerless to stop it, 2. he watched hannes die powerless to stop it, 3. now he knows the rest of his lifespan will be short and that his friends lives are in danger, 4. he has power and opportunity to stop it. He's haunted by his past mistakes and doesn't want it to happen to them too.
The scouts always fought for humanity. Letting the global genocide happen goes against everything they're fighting for and what they're comrades died for.
@@jaws9116 that's no argument there, (they shoot me so I shoot back? that's only in a war position) hange was safe until she tried to run with levi, her actions is what put her in that situation. (All her actions even the 4 years) and beign a leader is a position with responsabilites, pixis for example he behaved and understood the situation with cool mind. Hange was never suited for the role. A leader must inspire his mans and put them on a common goal...
@@hectorfeuer8138 THEY'RE LITERALLY AT WAR???? wtf. She was safe? How? They literally wanted to kill Levi and she LITERALLY saved him💀 But you're right, as you said, a leader should inspire their people, and just like you saw in THIS episode, SHE INSPIRED them to fight for HUMANITY just like they always have. They choose to stop Eren, they choose to help Hange, because they're scouts. Forever and always.
Jean : "reiner, stop it! i'll kill you if you continue talking"
reiner : "you'll KILL me? alright, what marco said at the time was..."
LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This episode fleshes Jean out as one of my favourite characters. He's the most human and the most conflicted, Marco's death shaped who he is and he'd be damned if he put his own selfish wants ahead of his sense of duty after all this time.
I mean is it really selfish to want to survive? He's definitely the most realistic thought hes the literal only one bringing up the elephant in the room that stopping Eren with no actual plans after means your own genocide so her saying genocide is wrong while not having plans to stop their genocide is the same thing
@@nnightkingj Self preservation to live a comfortable life as part of a fascist regime is pretty selfish, whereas its pretty selfless to fight for the survival of the many, regardless of their hatred of him.
I think Marcos death also made Jean have a huge self realisation as he was a cocky brat who had a huge ego but after Marcos death I think he learned to take things more seriously or else more of his friends could die. It was a huge turning point for him
@@nnightkingj Eren could easily defend himself with the founder's power. He just didn't want to risk his people, and was egostic like Rainer, except that he is an adult and knows both sides better.
@@Azat0722 he literally only has the founders power for limited time and he only can live for probably 4 more years
turns out, the children had to lead the adults out of the forest.
Not sure if you caught this, but Jean's wife in his fantasy was Mikasa.
and the kid was baby Eren
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@@davidnobre5660 or Eren´s baby, lmao
@@gabrielavilla9726 I don't think that would be the dream scenario for Jean xD
A Mikasa lookalike with longer hair since recall that Jean liked when she had long hair.
Annie wasn't joking, or being a bitch when she said "What about me?" To Jean. The anime cut out a line (botching the scene, imo.). Immediately after Jean says to Reiner "I'm not apologizing. . " and Reiner says "That's fine." Jean says, "I can't forgive you. . " THATS what Annie was replying to. She was asking if he considered her unforgivable, not asking him for an apology.
I made this comment before, but since comments were correcting me I was afraid I was spreading misinformation and deleted it. Here's the correction, guys!
This episode embodies what Sasha Braus' father has been preaching all along. It opens with a shot of potatoes, features so many shots of leaves, trees and the forest that they are in, and in the end they all leave it together.
I just realized it was Gabi's actions that changed Magath in this episode
nice
I guess you haven't watch much reaction
The Directionstyle of this Ep especially was inspired by the Dialogue-Tensionbuildingstyle that HunterxHunter frequently use to talk things out. It's about flashing pictures of backround stuff while having the dialogue underlined with clear voice acting. They dont use much music this ep mostly disturbing notelines w. piano and really just focus on getting a point together.
Many people hated this Ep bc of the silence and not much action sequences but much frozen pictures. For me thats again an 10/10 Artpiece and again nails Aot to one of the best thought of Stories to exist rn.
The introduction where Hange's recalling to the ''Fallen Comrades'' was so emotional and showed her impersonating Erwin's position while showing us the goal we have now.
And Gabi's voice acting at the end again, damn i just love her character.
I get what you’re saying, but I wanted to see Reiner talking, not a bunch of trees.
@@daryeusford9696 It's meant to represent the "escaping the forest" metaphor.
@@luniousm3246 Ik, but I still didn’t like that scene. Although I understand why it was added
who the fuck hates this ep? what uncultured brutes
@@daryeusford9696 that metaphor is needed, regardless you like it or not.
I feel like for a lot of the people in Paradis (it's that how it's spelled?), the "ouside world" is just a concept that doesn't hold any actual weight, that's why so many of them celebrate what Eren is doing. They lived their entire lives in that same place thinking there was nothing out there other than death and evil enemies trying to kill them and for all they know, that's still the case. I think that's what Hange was talking about, the scout did go out there, they did see the innocent people, so they can't hide behind the excuse of "oh I didn't know there were good people there" anymore.
any positive weight
the outside world is the source of a lot of distress and suffering for Paradis
I can imagine that for many people inside the walls, nothing's really changed about their viewpoint from outside the walls from before the basement and after the basement. They likely still perceive it as monsters keeping them in their cage. They see the people outside the walls as equivalent to the titans once keeping them locked, which is a really interesting parallel to how the people of Marley view the Eldians. The only real difference is that popular opinion has shifted from "Titans are unbeatable, let's just sit in the walls." to "These MONSTROUS humans ARENT unbeatable, let's kill em all!"
Doesn't matter, most of them still want to kill everyone in the walls, and rationalizations in favor of the Alliance changes that.
This episode is also one of my favorites in the whole series. Just amazing all the conversations in the forest, and hange's and Jean's mental picture of former scouts. Plus you finally see the progress of these 2 sides just finally talking. It's so cathartic! Amazing 👏
Seeing the fallen heroes. Marco. Never fails to make me emotional. 🥺🥺🥺🥺
One of my favorite episodes. Of course I like the ones that skip the intro altogether like this one (my favorite is Midnight Sun). And for an episode to showcase my favorite character, Jean. He was able to give Reinier something he'd always wanted, and couldn't even get from Eren - judgment and some sort of retaliation/punishment. And the reaction to this episode - I wasn't expecting it. Awesome reaction.
Well in the manga, by this point the ackermans were already explained fully but mappa cut it. In the episode savagery, they were supposed to explain ackerman powers.
I really enjoyed every reactions 🔥
One of the most underrated episode in AoT. This episode put most of the fans arguments about the alliance and let the characters discuss it between them.
This is one of my fave episodes!💕
The dialogue through it is amazing and even the intense moments.
Felt super bad for Jean seeing him constantly covering his ears, even after beating up Reiner he went to the forest covering his ears.💔
We haven't talk this through,such a strong line it sad to see it took them so long to have this . Before rumbling each of them wanted to kill each other and it took such a major step taken by Eren to make them come together and talk this through .
I love your reaction whenever Marco is shown and talked about
And yes this episode is pure love
Yelena stirring the pot ironically brought them closer together by putting it all out there and letting them come to terms with it and form some level of closure.
I did not care for Jean early on but he’s become one of my favourite characters post-timeskip
7:28 everything in AOT is foreshadowed even this :)
On a beautiful day Yelena and Pixis drank a glass of Wine together when Pixis said: Do you know how to tell a good lie?, you have to mix in some of the truth.
Little did Pixis know every he was drinking spinal fluid, which didn't effect Yelena as she's not an Eldian and therefore can't become a Titan even if Zeke screams.
what do you mean? we always knew she wasn't an Eldian what was the foreshadowing?
When you really think about it Magath wasn't necessarily wrong
2000 years of Eldian (titan) world domination will do that.
Yeah, At first we all thought that the Eldian empire and its history was something invented by Marley to justify his actions, now after seeing Ymir's flashback we see that it is true. Still nothing justifiable but at least we know it's true. In 2000 years many people died devoured, annihilated families, children, young people, etc. Still, as the story is focused on the Paradisians we feel sorry for them. They have all suffered. But still Paradise got the worst of it all. Well, there were many devoured in ignorance, crushed and sacrificing their lives for absolutely nothing.
@@user-rg7ef1ru6s peak story telling
Magath is wrong though the Eldians alive today not only didn't do anything wrong and all the guilty ones are long dead they didn't even have memories of their crimes while magath actively participated in the same crimes the past eldian empire did that they crucify the current eldians for
@@nnightkingj I didn't say Magath was a saint I'm saying that he was telling the truth
Honestly one of my favourite episodes of this season, which is big praise. In my mind I call it “The Breakfast Club” episode.
Beautiful episode! Much needed!
Marco i miss him so much😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
You guys must be the kindest souls ever, when Jean was beating Reiner I needed that for Jean.
Really looking forward to the next episode. Easily one of my favorites.
6:24 it seems that mikasa doesn't like being told her truths, (first it was with louise and now with annie)
The beginning of the episode with Jean thinking about Marco really got me in the feels. Jean has always been one of my favorite characters. He was really smug and full of himself when the show first started. But we've slowly seen him become someone who is willing to become a leader. He can't just give up and relax like Floch wanted him to. Because then he'd feel like he was disappointing Marco.
Yelena: Oh? You want to call me out? That's cool. How about I pull out some receipts then?
Also, people have been saying Floch only cares about power. But this episode kinda disproves that. If he really cared about being in charge, he could've just as easily sent someone he trusted to take his place. But him going to the front lines himself and potentially putting his life on the line shows how devoted he is to save Eldia. He's willing to be that Devil to ensure his people's safety. The Devil he saw in Erwin and Eren.
But just like I can like both Reiner and Eren, I like both Jean and Floch as characters. Even if they're fighting on opposing sides right now.
Floch laughed about the fact that some of his people will turn into titans.
He didn't care about the people who died when the walls collapsed.
He only want the glory by restoring the eldian empire
@@neh4797 Well, most of the people turned into titans were MP's. And Floch's experience with the MP's are that they're lazy, corrupt, and they tried to take Eren's powers away. They even had a secret division that "disappeared" people whenever they wanted to learn the truth of the world. Does that mean every MP is the worst of the worst? No. But, I can definitely see why Floch doesn't really care about them. Also, of course Floch has no time to think about the people crushed by the wall. With Eren gone, he has to be the leader of the Yeagerists. He has to keep Paradise together and ensure Eren succeeds. Are you expecting him to just burst out in tears? The point of Eren, Erwin, and Floch is that they're all willing to make heartless decisions if it means achieving victory.
Jean was thinking about Mikasa , not Marco
He never gave 2 shits about anyone but himself, that's why Sasha died or rather he let Sasha die so he can blame Eren
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what about levi squad ? they weren't MPs
And The MPs are humans there is nothing funny about turning them into titans.
@@neh4797 Well, the scene you brought up only discusses MP's. Plus, Floch isn't even the one who devised this plan. It was Zeke and Yelena's plan. So I'm not sure why you're so set on blaming him.
I'm surprised he hasn't done the Andor trailer.
Yes, of course it would be ideal for everyone to try to understand each other and thus consequently see that in the end Wars and conflicts in general are a disgrace, but what Attack on Titan is showing well is that in the end what matters is WHO HAS THE POWER to make something happen by force, because no matter how much arguments or justifications one side has before the other, even if it is correct or at least a little less wrong, if it is the weakest, it will be subjugated by the other..
Jean's hatred is understandable for everything that Reiner and Annie did, but, as Yelena said, he and others (such as Armin) also did questionable things, although there is also the issue of the war, in which, it is not that Justify any immoral and heartless act if it doesn't become more understandable.
Something similar is the rumble of Eren, the death of thousands of people CANNOT be morally justified, however, Paradis is at war, and, if we think about it, it has been since they invaded its territory years ago, a situation like this does not leave many options and if the eldianos of paradis had to choose between being destroyed or supporting a movement that seeks to destroy their enemies, and save them, they would choose the second option,
stop a genocide with another genocide.
It's okay if Jean can't forgive Reiner, he doesn't need to be his buddy, the important thing is that he doesn't want to take revenge and can tolerate and live with Reiner. Maybe he can forgive in time. If all could you that, there wouldn't be a problem.
As to the Rumbling: no. You can't equalize genocides, what Eren does is unforgivable. He will kill billions that never did anything to Eldians, maybe never even saw one. Paradise could have fought a defensive war with a part of the Rumbling, just defend their shores and from there on go with diplomacy, try to win allies and convince the world they aren't monsters. The untold numbers of colossals are expendable soldiers. Maybe the Founder can change Eldian DNA to remove the ability to turn Titan. There would be options
@@EnCey2 Of course, if everyone could forgive, the world of snk it would be different. now regarding the rumble,
Of course, what Eren does is unforgivable, and that a defensive strategy would be "better", but there are some points that I think are interesting,
1) It is true that the eldians of the world never did any physical harm to the dianos of paradise, but they do consider them demons and support Marley to destroy them.
2) All the eldians of the world and other countries would never accept a real peaceful solution to the conflict (it was they who declared war), and if paradise decide to do a "mini rumbling" they would be confirming to the world that they are "demons" by returning to use the titans to face them (sounds hypocritical but they think so)
3) The hate would not end, especially during and after a war, and that is what Eren wanted to end
4) Sooner or later Eldia would be defeated since she couldn't modernize (because the world would attack Hizuru and paradise couldn't defend it if the intention is to have a defensive posture)
@@EnCey2 their only chance of diplomacy was with Willy tybur. He was the only one who could’ve change things for the better for both sides. Had the azimbitos brought him up Ana try to see if they could set a private meeting with hange and friends then they could’ve came up with some benefits for paradis and Marley and maybe later the world. Now do note that this is just a possibility. They’ve already thought about diplomatic solutions, but just went about it the wrong way or relied on the wrong people. Also Eren understands what he’s planning to do. What he wants is to protect his people and his friends forever. That and the fact that he simply hate the outside world.
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Nice.
Please react to the outro with subtitles
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When Hange states that the members of the SC that died would not support the rumbling, she quite frankly wrong. They died without knowing about the outside world and how they caused the living hell with titans on Paradis. People often say "Marley's understandable, but not the whole world." This is genocide, arguing scale doesn't improve the situation. Marley actually seems to treat Eldians the best outside of nations such as Hizuru. Jean is absolutely right, stopping Eren guarantees the destruction of the island. The entirety of Part 2 was, "Marley invades and tries to wipe out Paradis, Eren commences Rumbling to genocide the world." I think I'll take Paradis over a brainwashed outside world that follows a false truth. At the end of the day, these are fictitious events and are not real.
The nature of a hero is that they are self-sacrificing. The scouts understand that not everyone outside of the walls are evil. In fact, the majority couldn't care less about whether you are eldian or not, they just want to go on with their lives (as seen in 4x28). Killing _everyone_ just in case they might not like eldians is the equivalent of saying you and me, innocent people, should die for the discrimination of racist people. If the jews, who were brought to the brink of extinction after the holocaust, decided that to protect themselves and their own loved ones, they were going to kill everyone else in the world, do you think they would be justified? Would you be fine sitting where you are right now and a giant foot crushes you and your family? The scouts just have a high enough amount of moral integrity to sacrifice themselves for a greater good. Some of them stumble at times, such as Connie nearly surrendering to his emotions and bringing back his mother, but in the end they stay rational, and decide to risk the thousands in the walls to save the billions outside of them, because inside the walls and across the sea, its all the same.
Eren was pushed into believing that the genocide plan was the right answer by a few things. 1. he watched his mother die powerless to stop it, 2. he watched hannes die powerless to stop it, 3. now he knows the rest of his lifespan will be short and that his friends lives are in danger, 4. he has power and opportunity to stop it. He's haunted by his past mistakes and doesn't want it to happen to them too.
@@felix_patriot very well said. The definition of a scout is to fight for all of humanity and not just humanity on the island
The scouts always fought for humanity. Letting the global genocide happen goes against everything they're fighting for and what they're comrades died for.
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If no one else wants to say it I will.
... Erwin would have supported either of the Euthenization Plan or the Genocide Plan
Erwin would have made a decision unlike these cringevengers , GeNoCiDe BaD
He would have disagreed with both plans
No he wouldn't have. Hange knows erwin better then anyone and she clearly said he wouldn't by referencing the scouts. Nope totally diasagree.
People who think Erwin would've supported the global genocide clearly don't understand his character
@@pratyushgiri6416 because it is?
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Hange: genocide is wrong!
*proceed to kill the jaegerist who are scout recruits*
soldiers that she should had in control, worst commander ever.
They were literally following her to kill her wtf? and she literally CRIED while shooting them, she isn't enjoying this.
Did you really compare global genocide to fighting jaegerists? Lmao
@@jaws9116 that's no argument there, (they shoot me so I shoot back? that's only in a war position) hange was safe until she tried to run with levi, her actions is what put her in that situation. (All her actions even the 4 years) and beign a leader is a position with responsabilites, pixis for example he behaved and understood the situation with cool mind. Hange was never suited for the role. A leader must inspire his mans and put them on a common goal...
@@hectorfeuer8138 THEY'RE LITERALLY AT WAR???? wtf. She was safe? How? They literally wanted to kill Levi and she LITERALLY saved him💀 But you're right, as you said, a leader should inspire their people, and just like you saw in THIS episode, SHE INSPIRED them to fight for HUMANITY just like they always have. They choose to stop Eren, they choose to help Hange, because they're scouts. Forever and always.
@@jaws9116 Agree, but actions have consequences…they will understand if they manage to stop eren.