How exactly did everything in the planet evolve to kill humans after all humans had died or left? It's like saying "that shark specializes in eating two toed sloths"
Propaganda for some stupid reason. Perhaps there already is an elite living on Earth and tehy were smart enough to say "Yeah, old Earth is still shit, don't come here."
After Earth is one of those movies where, had they not explained anything, the story would make a lot more sense. We would assume they crashed on a random alien planet and it is just a simple survival story.
The more you learn about it, the more stupid it becomes. I actually had a moment where I could *_feel_* their bad worldbuilding burning it's way through my mind like an acid made of stupid! Edit: for anyone curious, it was the smart metal harpoons instead of goddamn BULLETS. (Or at least pole arms with some REACH!)
Agree, i through that the aliens was simply playing with humans "Lets throw some scary monsters at them, and watch the show", it would be far more solid reason than "the floor is lava"
To be fair, i would be o'key with crash landing with few people on hostile planet. And making progress from the scratch. But now i know they had centuries to prepare for every alien invasion.
Even the wraith in Stargate have a better reason to not simply wipe out humanity: food. They sleep, some wake up every 100 years or so to get a snack, then back to sleep to give human populations time to regrow. And the last times humans tried to remove others from their holy land there was no holding back. So if humans being on the planet is so much worse that they send engineered monsters out, landing yourself or doing anything actually to "clean" the planet from their presence would be viable.
@@HappyBeezerStudios The point is, they don't need to land personaly. They can send beast with not such easy to overcome flaws Or like.. send a biologicial weapon? If they can creare beast, for sure creating deadly desise shouldn't be a problem
you dont even need that. You just need spray cans that emit smells that would confuse the beast. Just make bombs using Chanel #5 perfume. I am sure that would confuse the crap out of the animal
_"as thin as a single molecule"_ ???? Why then, if you have a weapon that can cut through ANYTHING, would your first thought not be to fire it _from a gun?_ This may be the worst Civilisation we've seen so far.
Right? I was thinking “oh ok maybe it’s not possible to make it as small as a bullet” but then you could literally just use a ballista to shoot the spears at them. Hell you could just attach a set of spinning blades to a roomba and kill the ursa lmao
Given the URSA's terrible senses and the cliffy nature of the planet, one can only imagine the amount of incidental casualties they would be taking from just plummeting to their death.
That is hilarious. Some gardener is just taking care of his crops, while wearing earpods and all of a sudden a massive beast drops next To him and it dies.
@@brok56 After a while, this becomes just part of the cycle of life. Ursa falls to its death in field. Ursa decomposes and fertilises ground. Fertilised soil produces amazing harvests, amazing harvests allow human population to propagate. Aliens get pissed by increasing number of humans, start to produce more Ursas. Ursas fall from cliff and die in field...
After Earth's lore is so ridiculous it almost comes back around to making sense. The government could be settling for a stalemate BECAUSE the Grell aren't innovating and maintaining the status quo allows the current eco-fascist government to stay in power. The quarantine of earth could have been BECAUSE every other outpost was wiped out with overwhelming force and Nova Prime is inexplicably spared the worst weapons - the risk of re-inhabiting (or even travelling near) Earth could therefore be deemed too high a risk to the only other biosphere capable of supporting human life. Fighting the URSA in sealed combat suits using thermal imaging COULD HAVE BEEN laughably effective in the opening monologue. That doesn't change the setup of The Kid having to face an Ursa without one, or The Dad having some kind of method-acting psychosis that can turn off his adrenal glands. Personally, I'd have preferred a movie about what it's like to grow up when your Dad is a famous method actor and he spends months or even years of your life pretending to be other people. Only, without the bad sci-fi allegory on top.
The cities on Nova Prime seem to be built on cliffs for some reason, so I don't think the cliffs would bother them. It's their complete reliance on melee weapons that'll kill them.
If you are able to create a creature from scracth, as it seems the URSA are, why would you make it a blind creature that can only track one smell? The fact these things don't run around bumping into walls is impressive
The whole "sacredness prohibits planet surface damage" is actually a great way to force hand to hand combat in a futuristic sci fi setting, I actually really like that concept, but the "religion prohibits eyes"? You'd need some TOP tier world building to justify that contrivance.
@Always Plotting sure, that works fine. For me the crucial element wouldn't be the "how it happened" per se, but more the "why" the species would be so fanatical as to give up such an epic advantage. Like in earth religions, murder is quite often a sin, but damn near all of them are willing to kill in order to take/keep territory. Ending life is bad but we're very willing to do it for an advantage. Do you get what I mean? I'm rambling lol, but I already typed this out so I'm going with it. Maybe I mean "characterization" more than "world -building"
I love that the entire premise of After Earth is two factions of dumbasses are continuously trapped in a war that could be over incredibly quickly if either group had any intelligent thought or common sense
Literally, either side could fully commit and outright win, or the two could compromise and make peace at any time, but they both just choose eternal suffering lol
One side could easily wipe out the other if they sent more then just a few Ursa every invasion (Skrel) And the other could win if they at the very least started up a factory producing M16s and MANPADS while hooking them up to their own ships (Novans)
I mean I can kinda understand the alien if the planet is a religious site they want to preserve it seem like a good idea especially when it actually works I mean there's like a few million human left and each attack ends up with hundreds of casualties on the human side
Kinda reminds me of the story of the Sea Captain. Lookout reports, "Captain! Enemy ship on the horizon!" The Captain, "Bring me my RED shirt." Captain puts it on so his crew won't see blood if the Captain is injured and will continue to fight on. Next morning lookout reports, "Captain! Twenty enemy ships on the horizon!" The Captain, "Bring me my BROWN pants."
@@Ramsey276one Yup, almost as if that was his first day wearing the suit. Wasn't there a whole story arc about him going through military training and not fulfilling his dads expectations....
And clearly that's false beacuse several animals and plants don't outright kill humans and ignore them or I think In 1 case outright help them. So that's bull crap.
Also, stuff doesn't evolve that fast in 1000 years. Under ideal circumstances most of those changes would take tens to hundreds of thousands of years bc they're so drastic
Taking it charitably and with a lot more info than the movie gives it could mean that people had to leave because the fauna evolved to survive the humans presence and climate change and shit so coming back it's all ultra hostile.
Add to that, "An oreo that gives you oxygen" is weird as hell. But if they went for "The atmosphere is toxic", then "an oreo with some temporary medicine that will supress the effects of the toxins" makes much more sense.
Honestly, I still think the aliens from after earth deserve a spot more than the humans. They have at the very least hovercraft, interplanetary travel and advanced bioscience technology. And they use all their technological might to make blind aliens who smell fear... Since the aliens clearly like making stupidly elaborate weapons. I recommend making explosive boomerangs that explode when they return to the users hand.
Fun fact: The Earth scenes were filmed in Costa Rica my country. Second Fun fact: As a result I went to see it only because of that and honnestly the most fun I got out of the movie was seeing when I reconnized our local terrain
Quisiera decir lo mismo de Total Recall, película que quisieron hacer ver futurista usando el metro de la capital de México (mi país) como escenario, pero la realidad es que en la actualidad se ve bastante deplorable. I envy people from New Zealand, here in my country, "el Cañón del Sumidero" was so contaminated by trash that it needed a couple making an adult video there in order to the government did something and clean it after they got mad because the video, instead of the trash, receiving massive backlash from people.
@@MrlspPrtI actually understand the pain of outsiders miss-representing your country, Jurassic Park is suposed to happen in an island near Costa Rica but they never came here, they went to Hawaii to film. And the book is even worse since the finale says that our army bombed the island, WE DONT HAVE AN ARMY, and even if we had, we would never burn down a forest with napalm and cause and ecological disaster.
I find it hard to believe that humans would forget how to fight. (Low oxygen levels when the world looks like a forest? Yeah I call bullshit on that too. :D And nights aren't freezing when the trees are mostly leafy, they aren't adapted for it.)
Also things evolved to kill humans, somehow? But our harms to the planet are generally indirect, killing the humans doesn't help. And like, when a shark kills a person we send people out to cull sharks, killing dozens of them. If something evolved to kill us, we'd drive it to extinction in a heartbeat. Killing humans will never be an evolutionary advantage, the traits would not propagate.
@@CaeruleanWren They dont even have to kill, simply attacking a human is enough to get most animals put down. Heck the state was threating to put down my childhood dog because he accidentally bit my dad. His large K-9 caught his thumb and gave him like 10 stitches. Of course as soon as animal control actually met the dog they were like nah hes fine.
This movie was literally the dumbest incarnation of humans vs the dumbest incarnation of alien lifeforms. both could be defeated in ground combat by 14th century warriors. all it takes is some nord berserker taking up some mushrooms or a samurai trained in bushido to defeat one of these aliens
Bro. Throw a Spartan, a Knight, A Viking, and A Samurai into a time machine, send them to Nova Prime via a teleporter, show them the alien weaknesses and have them fight these aliens. Record who kills more aliens.
@@gregghunt8859 An advanced sci-fi civilization that kidnaps ancient warriors to pit in combat against ridiculous genetic abominations as part of a game show. That feels like something I should have encountered before.
You don't even really need to be fearless. Take the special blade tech, put it on pikes. Form a pike block. Laugh as the second half of the enemy loses track of the pike block when the first half's suicide charges make them no longer scary to the guys in the pike block.
@@Coid i think there is obe predstor movie where the yautja kidnap some of the best mercs hitmen assassins gangsters in the world and dump them in some alien planet and then they start hunting them but they put a nice fight doe. Not the same thing but yea a ancient warriors if all over the world would be sick
I never understood the emphasis on "no fear" in this movie... Doesn't Little Willy Style hide from the URSA in a glass ball or something at some point?? So why don't soldiers battling the URSA just wear a damn wet-suit and motorcycle helmet?? Surely, the thing isn't reading your mind, it's smelling the pheromones or whatever your body produces when stressed! Cover your body, problem solved! I won't even get into idea of using some damn projectile weapons and/or pheromone-lure to fight these monsters. ANYTHING is better than battling them with close-range melee weapons with their ONLY way of finding you not being masked or hidden at all! Not being afraid of the URSA is one thing, but feeling NO FEAR, period, when battling them seems impossible. You're not worried about ANY of the people under your command? Sidenote: it's like when scuba divers dive with great white sharks. You're wearing a full-body rubber suit and full face mask... To the shark, you smell like a damn tire or something. Go out with just some snorkeling gear and swim trunks and see if that same shark doesn't take a little test-bite... PS: a little disappointed Zealot didn't reach for the low-hanging fruit and link the Novans to Scientologists!
I have an even better idea go hide in underground bunkers and just use drones to fight them. Just strap the stupid spear weapons on to the underside of the drones and fly them right into the big scary monsters from a safe and secure place with no fear of getting attacked. Or better yet have your ships in orbit just do there job and shot the shit out of the other ships before they can even make planet fall.
@@yaldabaoth2 you can't train for that! Like I said, you CAN train to not be afraid of the URSA itself but there is so much going on, you couldn't possibly bring your brain to a place of fearlessness on a consistent basis under any circumstances
If they're capable of creating sticks that can shape metal into a molecule thin blade, then they should be capable of creating bullets that come to a similar point enabling them to pierce whatever armor the Ursa have. Why the fuck haven't they just built new guns?! They literally have the technology, right there!
@@Jebu911 Literally EVERY one of their soldiers is armed with those cutlass weapons. It's their ONLY weapon. Bullets, are very small. You could make THOUSANDS of them from ONE cutlass.
The chapter about this movie in will smith's recent autobiography really clarifies what happened. It was made shortly after willow decided she didn't want to do music business because will pushed her so hard so will pampered Jayden and was so distracted trying to make sure his son was comfortable he didn't pay attention to the script and actually fired the coach will had been working with for most of his blockbusters. All his films suffered afterwards AND jayden repaid the pampering by trying to emancipate himself.
@@daltongallowayhe admitted he did too much with his daughter, babied his son, and then made a career changing decision how much damage control could that be? the faults were laid out
If you can build generation ships then you can build orbital habitats, the Novan's really have no excuses. And if they have drives capable of a percentage of C then they should have strapped a bunch onto some asteroids and fired them at the enemies planet. The sudden appearance of self-guided kinetic impactors should get the message that we are sapient and sick of their bull-shit across nicely assuming they survive.
Stay around Sol and convert the effort for generation ships into habitats that filter out cosmic rays and are engineered to support humans and other complex life. If they have to be mobile, make Craftworlds like Warhammer 40k's Eldar
@@DeepEye1994 I get you and I think the Xeno is terrifying but I think that the Queen is more terrifying in the sense of what she can do. Like one Queen could potentially wipe out a civilization while one lone Xeno might not be able to
@@DeepEye1994 You say that now but when she decides to use her telepathy to drive you insane you'll be wishing for a xeno to come along and put you down quickly
I know they were in the desperate pinch but if you made blades that can pierce The Ursa...You made bullets that can pierce the Ursa, granades with shrapnel that can bust an Ursa, and youve made missiles that can go through Krell ships.
Yeah, and one would think that after 7 centuries of war, they would've made at least a prototype of a Ursa killing gun (based on their slow ass tech dev)
Yeah it's really stupid. Since bullets have more force they would be far more capable of piercing an Ursa than any melee weapon wielded by a weak ass human.
@@GeorgeMonet true that and if negotiating a ceasefire with the aliens .under terms of we will leave your holy planet over next 200 years to return to our home system and leave you in peace doesn't gain any ground. You have the unthinkable option of strapping one of their sub light drives to a string of asteroids . using the wormhole technology to launch them in the hundreds aimed at their home planet and outposts to point you can force a ceasefire. Then take any captured or disabled ships back for intensive study .
I heard one that this was originally pitched as a survival movie where will and his astranged son get into a car accident in the wilderness and the son has to go find help while being guided by will via radio. I feel like the story might have breathed a bit more without having to introduce a scifi world on top of the usual character and plot intros that all movies have to do.
This movie could have had some killer visuals. Imagine if jaydens treck was through a former city being reclaimed by nature. Climbing the ruins of fallen skyscrapers, caved in roads forming new rivers, and maybe even left behind savage humans who help jayden because they think he's a god.
true but idek if there would be much cities left after a 1,000 years of neglect, you probably wouldn't even be able to identify them as having been cities, so the only places I'd expect there to be still visible ruins of cities is maybe in arid or desert regions where vegetation doesn't grow around it and completely cover it, though they would still be heavily eroded from the wind and sand.
I'm pretty sure it would take more than 1,000 years to render major metro areas unrecognizable as such. Most of the buildings would probably be extremely dangerous to enter and explore in terms of those left standing after all that time, but modern building materials (let alone the more advanced ones they must have used before leaving) are likely to hold their shape even against the reclamation of nature for a very long time. We still find largely intact ancient ruins from about a thousand years back that were built using far more primitive materials.10,000 or more, I'd agree.
@@Dell-ol6hb we literally find cities older than 1,000 years, add that to modern material science, that can last a whole lot longer than ancient material, and add future material science, and you'll have buildings that will last a long, long time
I kind of like this as a separate story, like maybe the aftermath of an alien invasion or mass disease(or multiple) spread through humanity, leaving few people who have limited capabilities for rebuilding society and thus live in the decaying ruins like a jungle
It would make sense to make earth a no go quarentine zone if it was overrun by the flood from halo or something, but harsh climate and some freaky animals? Just build fortified settlements.
or go on mass hunts of extreme prejuidace. the upcoming new Jurassic Park movie makes no sense as to how the dinosaurs spread so far to threaten humanity
@@dougrattmann1 Yup. T Rex would just be target practice for most hunters much less an actual military. It really boils down, I think, to how little hollywood understands modern weapons. a .308 would likely blow a hole in a Rex's brain plenty fine, much less a .50 or a 20 mm.
@@joewelch4933 Hold on a second. While a really well placed .308 could *probably* dome a T-Rex, dangerous game hunters in real life prefer gigantic goofy rounds like the Nitro Express range.
I have now created a head-canon that theres another version of humans living on earth, mostly underground but traveling to the surface to hunt and what have you. The oxygen is actually fine and its actually the Novans that eventually evolved while in a more oxygen heavy environmwnt.
*And the worst part …* All the weapons and tactic deficiencies were freaking obvious *when watching the film.* A lot of "Societies too stupid to exist" films have flaws that _only become really noticeable_ after you've watched the film and thought about it. During the movie every viewer was banging their head against a wall over these mistakes. You weren't lost in the moment and the experience of the make believe Universe, you were hate watching and doing a real time critique. [That's why I've already posted a few comments before watching this video (which it turns out covered points I also made), as the failures are that obvious].
It's a reasonably old movie, isn't it? Came out in the 2010's? When it came out and I heard any sort of review about it, I remember I was playing D&D with my brother and the boys. Can't remember if I was DMing or not, though.
@@mirceazaharia2094 I actually watched the film in 2011 in Ukraine 🇺🇦 it was dubbed in Russian 🇷🇺 and no English-speaking accommodation (myself 🇺🇸) so I was fairly lost but knew it was bad. I was spared from knowing just how bad.
@@mirceazaharia2094 Media Zealot is like a more specialized version of Hbomberguy. Have this as today's random fun-fact that may lead you to exciting new content-sources.
The line that still makes me angry was "everything on this planet evolved to kill humans" but humans were gone for only a few hundred years? And even then if there's no humans on earth then *how* does a creature evolve that fast again against something that's not present on earth? And then there's the "smell your fear issue" , the movie shows that you are protected if you're in a bubble, the main characters sister put him in one... So why don't they wear something like a hazmat suit? And then there's the gravity. They constantly say Earth's gravity is stronger than what they're used to but they never do anything with that, in fact Katai (kitai?) runs and even jumps pretty high and far despite that information constantly being fed to us
M. Night: "What if we made humans the Quarians, but, like, completely dumb. Also Scientology's cult shit is shoved in there for some ungodsly reason." Intern: "Okay... why?" M. Night: "Because I ran out of fucks to give about halfway through Signs."
So the ursa don’t even register you if you aren’t afraid of them? So why would you be afraid of something that’s harmless because it doesn’t even register you until you start to fear it? Such a stupid bio weapon to engineer.
Because Big Ungly Monster comming after you? Though, what you said made me imagine some Shaggy & Scooby sequency where a utterly confused URSA helps them then makes a double take as they panic then fails to attack because the scent is overwelming. Or a civilian in a closed building seeing URSA one just... stand there... doing nothing... completly lost
So a bit like those loud little dogs that are kept chained on front porches / yards. They bark / scream bloody murder at you when youre a little kid because youre all afraid of the snarling little beast even though it cant make it past the chain its on despite its best efforts, but after a few years or if your old enough to know better they know youre not afraid of them and they just shut up after one or two barks.
The animals on Earth shouldn't even be any different than the ones we have now, after all, they only left 1,000 years ago, you'd barely have any changes in the species that survived the extinction, besides maybe very small animals that breed rapidly, like rodents or small birds, but even then it wouldn't be anything near as drastic and easily noticeable as they show in the movie
Lizards on an island adapted to eating berries within months of their prey going extinct so I feel a wrecked planet earth could force adaptation quickly.
@@nikkibrowning4546 good point, that’s why I mentioned smaller animals would adapt somewhat, but my point is that there wouldn’t be the level of adaptation shown in the movie, like animals getting many times larger in only a 1000 years
I like the part that he says most of the Earth freezes at night. It's obvious everyone involved with this movie has no clue how weather works on Earth... AND THEY LIVE ON IT. Also, never understood how they can't breath in "low oxygen" when in fact that many plants on the planet would create massive amounts of oxygen. Ugh.
Not trying to defend the film, but a high CO2 level can be a problem much worse than just low oxygen. CO2 absorption is what really needed for immediate human survival.
I love Tuvok he's one of my favorite star trek characters, he's also extremely terrifying when angry which is why he suppresses his emotions.....if he didn't he would probably strangle everyone, lol.
Dude even had a holodeck program where he just strangles people like Neelix. You'd think something like that wouldn't even be allowed by the computer but then again Worf already had his Klingon calisthenics program where he does much worse to the NPCs.
The idea that animals on Earth specifically evolved to kill humans despite humans not inhabiting the planet for 1000+ years is the dumbest part of this movie. That's like North American predators evolving specifically to kill horses despite them having gone extinct on the continent and not existing there for millennia, only being reintroduced when Europeans arrived and unknowingly brought the species back to the continent they came from.
You can't say it is the dumbest part of the movie! There are so many dumb parts to choose from. This movie set for the bar for dumb as low as they could get it and then started digging.
Or as stupid as evolution creating a termite that's only ability to survive is to digest wood fibers is through the use of a protozoa and said protozoa can't survive without the termite. Yeah kinda an oof moment for science there.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Explain how these two radically different creatures were specifically evolved for one another, I'll wait. If you remove one from the other they both die no chance of evolving btw.
"Considering them little more than vermin. But if the supposed vermin are capable of repelling your forces constantly, what does that make you?" Australia, that makes you Australia, ask the Emu. Or most of the occidental world during the numerous plagues.
@@KateeAngel well, I was mostly taking about the plagues that killed 1/3 of the european population during the middle ages. And mostly transmitted by vermin. But if there are other plagues that killed such a proportion of their continent, I stand corrected.
40k Space Marines vs Ursa would be the most comically 1 sided cross franchise match in sci-fi history, big super strong damage resitant aliens gentically engineered to kill by locking in on fear pheromones against super soldiers who 'know no fear' inside suits of fully enclosed power armour carrying standard infantry weapons capable of knocking out IFV's as there basic 'rifle' is a fully automatic RPG launcher, a single Astartes could probably solo the whole invasion force
My theory: the aliens don't want to exterminate humans. They're using Ursas (which operate on fear) against humans to slowly select for fearless humans Forced evolution basically
That's not a bad idea for an alien invasion story. It clearly explains why aliens don't just destroy everyone, which is the biggest plothole for most alien invasions. Either that or they do it for fun like the Predators.
That reminds me of a great Star Trek theory, that posits that the reason the Borg so often attack with only one cube at a time is that they're farming other civilisations. They send a single cube, which scares the locals something fierce and is just barely stopped. This make the locals panic and encourages them to develop new technology to try and defend themselves, tech the Borg can then acquire with their next visit. Then if the locals look like they're getting too powerful; that's when the hundreds of other cubes are sent to deliver the final decisive blow.
@@JamesTobiasStewart Makes sense but then that means they kind of dropped the ball with Starfleet. They kept playing games with them to include time travel shenanigans and only encouraged them to keep crafting better defenses. If you consider Discovery to be canon (I don't, personally, and I really don't care about No True Scotsman fallacies or other argumentation on the subject) then the Borg seriously messed up. Even without taking that into account, the future version of Starfleet according to Voyager and Enterprise had time travel and manipulation built right into their ships, never mind the "subatomic disruptors" they were armed with. They probably thought to employ the same tactic with the Federation and then realized their mistake too late given all the setbacks they were handed by the madwoman Janeway and the original un-cucked mad lad version of Picard.
Didn't they basically genetically engineer the ursas? I know human genetics is likely really different than whatever their life blueprint system is, but still, they already understand and execute the concept.
It would be fascinating if the reason why everything is happening this way is because someone or something is pulling the strings. A never ending war is a good way to keep a population under control. This logic applies to both sides.
True. Education is an effective population control method. Proof: Earth. Population explosion is mostly over and I recall seeing estimates that the population will reach its peak this century.
@@marianodenisvega4323 why wouldn't it be? They have switched to a "better" tech which seems to have been perfectly better for everything but what they are facing. This is far enough ahead and removed enough that people might have forgotten about guns and missiles. So they spoon feed in just enough tech to keep the war going indefinitely, tiny advance response with tiny advance.
The Novans, in how they act, how their society is structured, even the Rage family, just scream "this was written by a Scientologist, or written so a Scientologist could tolerate it." The whole fear control technique sounds like Scientology training, they don't like democracy (one of the hidden elements of Scientology is they aren't wild about voting), they try to combine religion and science (which is what Scientology does). The only thing out of true with it totally being Hubbard-like is that the alien enemies are also religious fanatics, and that they aren't willing to fight the humans face-to-face like the Psychlos in "Battlefield Earth" (both the novel and the film.)
@@1994mrmysteryman Not really. Lots of scientists are religious but if they're good scientists they don't let their spiritual beliefs affect their studies and theories on the material world. Scientology is about making bullshit "scientific" theories influenced almost entirely by spiritualism with some random sci fi stuff thrown in about aliens.
My favorite part of this video is that all the supplementary material for the movie exists only to excuse all of the plot holes and crappy worldbuilding I get a lot of expanded universes do this sometimes, but it feels like the entire point of the 1000AE universe WAS to be an excuse
Yah, I noticed how it feels less like their own stories and more like someone is desperately trying to cover up how stupid this all is, "No no no, the Cutlass is the only thing that they can use, they also can't advance technology even if they discovered how to use a Warp Drive, Oh and the Aliens that they are fighting find the grounds as religious which is why they use Ursa's...and they Also hate eyesight!...Trust us guys, this actually all about a commentary on Religion.
"If your fans need to do homework to enjoy your movie you made a bad movie." And if you made a bad movie, nobody is going to go out of their way to want supplementary material. It's a failure from both ends.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Yah, supplementary materials should be expansions of the universe, Like imagine if there were no books or comics, we would have a alien race dropping creatures with only one sense being fought with a magical blade which most would wonder why you can't just shoot a AutoCannon round into one or use fire to cook them.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Exactly, expanded universe materials are like a dessert. Nice to have, but if the meal doesn't work at all without it, then you haven't cooked dinner properly. It's why I find the character of General Grievous frustrating because 'Revenge Of The Sith' gives no details on who he is, what exactly he is or why he matters so much. He just enters the film as someone who is already important and everyone knows about. Now yes stuff like the Clone Wars show gave us his history, motivations, etc and it was actually quite good, but you don't get points for things that aren't in the film. The fact that Jayden is young & still being trained as a Ranger was a great opportunity to have him ask world building questions (like the lack of ranged weapons) that tutors or Will could answer to at least shore up the plot holes.
Except it doesn't excsue any of the plot holes and crappy world building as it shows simply that the writers are freaking morons. Each thing they write is more stupid than the last.
I actually don’t think Shyamalan should take any blame cause Will Smith is actually the one who pitched the idea to make the movie in the first place. He deserves shit for A LOT of the directing and story writing he’s done, but this wasn’t even his idea
The fact that he thought they could make a multimedia franchise to compete with the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, and other popular Sci-fi shows and movies along with dragging his son into this is also quite idiotic
Good lord, thank you for tackling this movie. I swear there are few movies that piss me off more than this one. The sheer stupidity of it all, the lack of weapon variety, the ineffective ursa bioweapons, the lack of pressurized suits, the freezing nights, the lack of oxygen, I feel insulted someone thought this would be entertainment. My younger brother who was around 8 could see the flaws in this story. Never gonna get those hours back...
Another issue with the Ursa is that humans should be able to be desensitized to them over time and with exposure, at least making their fear-sensing a lot less effective against trained military personnel.
One reason why I like the non-canon Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel game is because the Midwestern faction actually does the smart thing and starts recruiting locals into their ranks, a practice normally frowned upon by the normal Brotherhood. It’s why they were originally cast out in the first place, sent to Midwest aboard airships that ended up crashing. And they don’t just recruit regular folks. You can even recruit intelligent Deathclaws at one point
That's the thing though: BoS was never written to be an perfect faction, but was always flawed because their main objective of hoarding technology to keep it out of the wrong hands was always misguided.
The fact that the monster is basically called "bear" really bothers me. I imagine the writer used a thesaurus to come up with "ursa" and mistakenly thought it was really clever.
Still find it funny how with all that green we see and Earth has a lack of O2? So photosynthesis some how stopped in that 1000 years? Any way, bad Sci-Fi is bad.
I think that in movie there was way too much oxygen for a normal human to handle, and what that breather fluid does is just regulate the amount of oxygen the body can process (don't ask me how, I'm not a medic or biologist), at least I think that's the approach they were taking, if not, then the low oxygen one is really stupid, I mean the fact that there's si much flora and that it's so green (yes, plants being green has to do on how much oxygen they produce) signals that the air is really clean and that there's lots of oxygen
@@argentin2306 That sounds like a more likely explanation. What I have understood as the common consensus, is that humans would really struggle to breath the air of cretaceous, or jurassic periods. What with the (too high for human comfort) oxygen content, as well as other chemicals that would be outright harmful to us, but fine for the better adapted animals of that time. So perhaps not so far fetched in the film. But poorly portrayed. Also 'every life form here is evolved to kill humans'? When the entire human race has effectively vacated the planet, and business carry on like it doesnt even matter. That was... stupid. 😐
@@Dave102693 Possible. But that still does not make sense for the claim. In order for 'every species to have evolved particularly to hunt and kill humans', all of them would have needed to spend tens if not hundreds of millenia, with humans as their primary food source. With survival of the fittest, favoring those who best adapted and overcame human defenses. And that was not the case, even when humans still lived on earth.
*A explanation that "redeems" the film.* What if Will Smith's character and the other Ghosters *were Psychopaths?* That would explain the lack of fear … and their deficiencies in both parenting and _running society._ [BTW, Psychopaths are known for throwing rocks at animals when children, perhaps like father like son. Junior has unlocked his birthright and is now as emotionally damaged as dad]. As for settling on other planets including back on Earth, what if the Aliens will use their full military potential on other Worlds, and Nova Prime is the only "safe place" due to them handicapping themselves. Any other Human Colonies get Base Delta Zeroed, so Nova Prime is the only place where the big issue is just stupid big blind predators … and that Humanity is _ruled by psychopaths that hamstring the Human countermeasures_ in order to make themselves super important and Humanities _only hope,_ instead of letting Humanity develop very effective technology and strategies that would completely negate the Ursa. *Or…* perhaps the Aliens would be okay with Humanity moving back to Earth _(or anywhere else)_ … they only became anti Human once their own planetary temple was invaded, perhaps they were never bothered by Humans being on Earth. What if the Ursa are also a *limited response* _just to get Humanity to move._ Keep pestering Humans with an annoyance, not a extermination attempt, just to get them to relocate. So in fact the opposite of the above _Base Delta Zero scenerio,_ if Humans leave Nova Prime the Aliens will leave them alone. And that could also explain why "Will Smith" was so adamant about not going to Earth … can't let your fellow Novans/subjects know that there's a lush garden World that just happens to be Humans original home, waiting to be resettled. But … that would mean that "Will Smith" no longer is the un-opposable leader of Humanity, as he's no longer vital to Humanity's survival _and a living God Emperor [oh I'm going to regret writing that last line]._ So he keeps Humanity trapped in this needless cycle, in order to preserve his own power. And now he can hand the reigns over to his disturbed son one day, knowing that he also is a potential psychopath. There could be a sequel/fanfic where Humanity tries to overthrow the Rangers, who are deliberately keeping Humanity in peril?
So they have an automated warning system that says "don't go near this planet ever!" Set up to presumably warn other Novas, who should all know the place is off limits. But that same system doesn't automatically the navy "hey, one of your ranger ships passed a sensor, it had multiple malfunctions detected, and its signal was lost in conditions matching a crash. Maybe send someone to check on them?"
With the size of the emergency beacons, there should be 5+ on each ship. Also, they had plenty of time to send a distress signal before entering Earth's atmosphere.
The extra materials just makes everyone in this universe even more stupid than they already appeared to be. Absolutely everyone is dumb in this situation. The aliens, the humans, heck even the animals. This wouldn't have been as stupid a movie (though the acting would have still sucked) if they just made it a fantasy movie. Dump all the advanced tech into the abyss. The Ursa track human fear using magic, everyone only has melee weapons because it's a medieval fantasy setting, etc. It would still not be good. But at least the universe would be a bit less stupid. Anything to avoid the painful bending over backwards to explain why everyone is so dumb here. The humans don't realize that Earth has become habitable because...reasons. Their enemies don't give the Ursa the ability to adequately track their prey because...religion. All to defend a planet that is holy to them despite not living anywhere near it.
The planet being holy to the aliens is the most believable part of this movie/ story. That planet may be in an orbit around a star that is central to a constellation from the aliens planet that is itself central to their religion. The planet may be their version of a heaven or paradise. Their going there could be explained as an pilgrimage that takes place every so many of their years for religious reasons.
+davidtherwhanger6795 The Skrell are blind, though, just like their Ursa creations. How would they even view a constellation and make a religion around it?
It's sad really, read online that the original script was about a father/son story, where Will's character, who was a workaholic, tried to bond with his son on a camping trip on the way back they would have a car accident and Will's cxharacter would be incapacetated, leavin Jaden's character alone to face the woods in search for help, seemed like a good story, dunno why they had to add the "sci fi" twist....
"My suits turning black, i like it but i think its something bad". Someone wrote that line and it somehow made it into the movie, and then Jaden Smith delivered the line in the worst way ever and it still somehow made it onto film. Just brilliant.
I would believe it more if the aliens from after earth only sent small attacks on nova then let them rebuild only to attack again because they are bored and seeing the puny humans struggle is the most fun they've had.
Any time M. Night Shyamalan gets ahold of a project, you know it's going to suck. He made two decent films, let it go to his head, and then churned out disaster after disaster. SOMEHOW, he keeps getting studio money to make more godawful crap.
@@ReanuKeevesAus sixth sense was based on an episode of a children's tv show Are You Afraid of the Dark. "The Tale of the Dream Girl," Sham admits to being a super fan of the series.
I suggest the Nazi regime from the Wolfenstein games and the Earth Federation from the Gundam franchise for analysis on how they're advanced sci-fi civilizations that are too stupid to really exist.
I know this sci fi civilization is kinda weird but can you do the Ratchet and Clank universe next cause I really want to see you deconstruct the shit out of the sci fi villains in that series
Basically, if we go with Earlier Ratchet and Clank villains (up to Dreadnought) we basically got an entire galaxy worth of idiots that can't tell how these greedy businessmen or Qwark are doing messed up stuff for a bigger profit. I mean the President was quick to bend the knee when Nefarius used a giant ball that slowly converts people into machines.
@@Predator20357 That certainly is true, but at least the R&C universe doesn't take itself seriously, which isn't too good of an excuse, but at least an explanation.
@@Schnittertm1 Yes at least it's not trying to act like WarHammer or Star Trek or other serious properties, as at least then, it will be mostly just a fun time of looking for how dumb the people are from specific details to overall grand strategies.
One crazy idea is that the novans leaders don't want to advance and cause their enemy's to pull out all the stops knowing they would lose better a never ending stalemate then final death.
Sounds like a theory for the aliens from Signs. Don’t want to get nuked so they stupidly wander around farmland naked and show no advanced technology besides the ships that got them there. Theories hold up about the same I think. Works on the idea that the side with the power to end the conflict won’t get tired of the stalemate and pull out all the stops just because they can. Not to say this isn’t plausible though.
Not very human though. there is an old saying i heard as a kid A wolf will gnaw off its foot to escape a trap, a human wont but they will wait for the hunter to return and hope to the kill the bastard.
24:45 this is of course ignoring how absurd it is that animals could evolve significantly in a thousand years. Even in the cambrian expansion this wasn't the case. Only possibility is they didn't so much "evolve" as they were geneered.
And the Novans looked on at the Giant clad in red armor, adorned with ruby inlaid blood drops and a winged blood drop motive on his left shoulder, as he lay waste to the Ursa with what could only be described as a small automatic grenade launcher. Unhelmed, he gave off no sign of fear, moving far quicker and more quietly than such a massive figure should move, with only hints of a deeper wrath burning in the eyes of the unkown warrior. Within moments the last of the Ursa was slain and as he turned, the Novans could finally see the face of their savior more clearly, a pale, white face of noble bearing, framed by long hair of a golden hue. He finally addressed them: "Fear not, for the Emperor has sent his Angels to save you and bring you back into the fold of the Imperium." Well, anyway, the Novans are just what happens when you have an actor that was influenced by a third rate science fiction writer turned cult leader, tries to create a science fiction universe. There was no regard given to all the implications of the technologies an advanced civilization with FTL technology would have. There is also no terra forming, no experimentation with space habitats (e.g. O'Neil cylinder and its larger cousins) and other such possibilities. Oh, and logic, well, who needs logic if you have a story told by feelings, rather than logic.
I'm no 40k fan. But honestly if the Blood Angels or any other marine chapter.... who am I kidding. If any Imperial Guard Regiment showed up to fight the Novans and the Krell would be (insert bodily waste removal event) bricks of diamonds.
Eeeeeeh. There are some pretty fundamental flaws with the concept. If habitable planets are that rare, how come the hostile aliens found that planet, but not earth? If the novans built a generation ship to go to nova, why the hell do they not continue to do so? Why are they not practicing PROPER bioconservation by DNA and brain scanning everything? Why is everything "after" earth when earth is completely viable? How come in a thousand year war communication was never seen as a viable option?
the only thing that could excuse all the plot holes, is the religious order knowing everything. but choosing to keep the war going on to stay in power. they don`t have to fear full extermination because the enemy will not commit, they don`t develop full suits and defenses to keep the war going, and keep the war going to keep the population afraid and in control.
@Michael Price exactly. Why have a military leader if there is no war? With the constant fear of death the religious leader offers hope of an afterlife. The scientist gets to direct society in a scientific way as long as there is a public emergency. All three are probably corrupt and have their reasons for keeping the war going as long as they can handle it.
@@newperve not necessarily. Even with equal polical power a religious leader always holds more power than scientists and generals due to being a religious leader. Also that style of control are not use by scientists and generals. When those 2 want dictatorship they accomplish differently. Soldiers with martial law I'm a police state. Scientists with big brother.
@@JayJayM57 I think the military and scientists would have to be in on it. Twice according to the lore presented here a military leader was the sole governmental power. If the military was not in on it, they would have acted when they had the chance and no one to stop them from developing better weapons and strategies.
"Everything has evolved to kill humans" This always made me think about the 'Mama Bird' from the movie. Sure, she could have always thought 'I owe him, he risked his life for my kids'. However animals work based off of instinct instead of reasoning. On top of that he couldn't even protect her children. She owed him nothing. She also could have put her own safety first if she wanted to have a future as well as another nest of children; by leaving him to freeze while she looked for shelter. Or if she truly did evolve to be hostile towards humans, why didn't she eat him for energy? Whether she's just some type of plot armor or if she's meant to symbolize something I'm totally not sure. All I know is that her compassion and sacrifice have left a mark on me these past few years. When I think about her I always ask myself, 'why did she do this?'
They accidentally misspelled "love" as "kill" somewhere down the line. They probably made all the animals really infatuated with humans via genetic manipulation. The tiger probably just wanted a hug too.
A better question is why can't the bird survive a night in the environment it lives in. It's nest wasn't exactly sheltered anymore than the spot she died was. You'd think evolving to hunt something that's not on earth would take a backseat in terms of evolutionary pressure to surviving basic exposure
Honestly, the sad part is that I actually found all this background lore interesting. It’s a damn shame that AE’s first outing turned out to be a dumpster fire.
I am worried to see, that Dr Bright is still allowed to comment on youtube-videos... And besides this - yes... I agree. There is a ton of movies that all fall in the same way-to-easy-to-kill horror creature trap. Every time you have some impenetrable force, that somehow bested mankind, just to get killed off by a rag tag bunch of heroes in the end. Yes in this case we have the excuse, that the ursa don't have to deal with mankinds formidable ability to not only kill ever single living organism, but glass over the whole surface a few hundred times over... But still - how did those people forget, how to make something explode behind somehting hard and pointy and propell the second something through a barrel? For some reason a spacefaring mankind forgets how to use guided missiles, long range guns, drones and mines, and goes back to fight with pointy sticks...
When you said "one of these three things is not the same", I definitely expected you to say the scientist. Historically the difference between a police state and a theocracy has often just been what the rulers called themselves.
Problem with too many modern movies, especially in the scifi space, to worried about big visuals, to ignorant about good scripts. Now, if this event had taken place early in Novan history, then maybe.
We’ve already unintentionally wiped out plenty of animals on earth. I’m pretty sure they could do the same to some baboons, cats and birds pretty easily if they tried
Just had a thought after the part where he mentions using fear pheremones to lure the Ursa in and take them out with mines; if explosives aren't very effective They could still construct mines that shove spikes up out of the ground using the Cutlass tech. It's not like you'd even have to bury them since they can see.
How exactly did everything in the planet evolve to kill humans after all humans had died or left? It's like saying "that shark specializes in eating two toed sloths"
But sharks did evolve to eat two toed sloths...do you not understand science and stuff
Propaganda for some stupid reason. Perhaps there already is an elite living on Earth and tehy were smart enough to say "Yeah, old Earth is still shit, don't come here."
@@larryjake7783 Technically sloths are made of meat so you are right
@@RicardoAlmeidatm lol
@@RicardoAlmeidatm True If you throw one in a shark tank, I bet the sharks wouldn't refuse.
After Earth is one of those movies where, had they not explained anything, the story would make a lot more sense.
We would assume they crashed on a random alien planet and it is just a simple survival story.
The more you learn about it, the more stupid it becomes. I actually had a moment where I could *_feel_* their bad worldbuilding burning it's way through my mind like an acid made of stupid!
Edit: for anyone curious, it was the smart metal harpoons instead of goddamn BULLETS. (Or at least pole arms with some REACH!)
Agree, i through that the aliens was simply playing with humans "Lets throw some scary monsters at them, and watch the show", it would be far more solid reason than "the floor is lava"
To be fair, i would be o'key with crash landing with few people on hostile planet. And making progress from the scratch. But now i know they had centuries to prepare for every alien invasion.
Even the wraith in Stargate have a better reason to not simply wipe out humanity: food.
They sleep, some wake up every 100 years or so to get a snack, then back to sleep to give human populations time to regrow.
And the last times humans tried to remove others from their holy land there was no holding back. So if humans being on the planet is so much worse that they send engineered monsters out, landing yourself or doing anything actually to "clean" the planet from their presence would be viable.
@@HappyBeezerStudios The point is, they don't need to land personaly.
They can send beast with not such easy to overcome flaws
Or like.. send a biologicial weapon? If they can creare beast, for sure creating deadly desise shouldn't be a problem
"Mr. Smith may I please have a cohesive plot?"
"Denied! Sit down!"
A platoon of naked human berserkers from the Viking age could probably wipe out the Ursa in a weekend.
There's an idea. Just give everyone gigantic doses of cocaine. No fear
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 cocain meth, and a Lil pcp. Those men will be litterlly invincible.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282You have seen Cowboys vs Aliens. Now, watch Vikings vs Aliens.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282I don't even think the Vikings would need the cocaine...lol!
@@skeetsmcgrew3282i mean, it worked for the Germans
The first time I watch After Earth I never understood why they didn't fight in a sealed "Power Armor" or ever a bodysuit that absorbed their scent.
Vulcans would shit all over these guys
Wait you actually watched this film. And more than once? Are you a masochist?
you dont even need that. You just need spray cans that emit smells that would confuse the beast. Just make bombs using Chanel #5 perfume. I am sure that would confuse the crap out of the animal
That would make to much sense
Didn't Avatar with the blue people have those?
_"as thin as a single molecule"_ ????
Why then, if you have a weapon that can cut through ANYTHING, would your first thought not be to fire it _from a gun?_
This may be the worst Civilisation we've seen so far.
Wouldn’t that damage it?
@@thefalsegod0Just don't have the sharp part touch the barrel
Right? I was thinking “oh ok maybe it’s not possible to make it as small as a bullet” but then you could literally just use a ballista to shoot the spears at them. Hell you could just attach a set of spinning blades to a roomba and kill the ursa lmao
@@thefalsegod0 Yes, but it's constantly repairing itself, that's why the blade can stay one molecule sharp in the first place
Given the URSA's terrible senses and the cliffy nature of the planet, one can only imagine the amount of incidental casualties they would be taking from just plummeting to their death.
That is hilarious.
Some gardener is just taking care of his crops, while wearing earpods and all of a sudden a massive beast drops next To him and it dies.
@@brok56 After a while, this becomes just part of the cycle of life. Ursa falls to its death in field. Ursa decomposes and fertilises ground. Fertilised soil produces amazing harvests, amazing harvests allow human population to propagate. Aliens get pissed by increasing number of humans, start to produce more Ursas. Ursas fall from cliff and die in field...
Genetically altered lemmings eh?
After Earth's lore is so ridiculous it almost comes back around to making sense. The government could be settling for a stalemate BECAUSE the Grell aren't innovating and maintaining the status quo allows the current eco-fascist government to stay in power.
The quarantine of earth could have been BECAUSE every other outpost was wiped out with overwhelming force and Nova Prime is inexplicably spared the worst weapons - the risk of re-inhabiting (or even travelling near) Earth could therefore be deemed too high a risk to the only other biosphere capable of supporting human life.
Fighting the URSA in sealed combat suits using thermal imaging COULD HAVE BEEN laughably effective in the opening monologue. That doesn't change the setup of The Kid having to face an Ursa without one, or The Dad having some kind of method-acting psychosis that can turn off his adrenal glands.
Personally, I'd have preferred a movie about what it's like to grow up when your Dad is a famous method actor and he spends months or even years of your life pretending to be other people. Only, without the bad sci-fi allegory on top.
The cities on Nova Prime seem to be built on cliffs for some reason, so I don't think the cliffs would bother them. It's their complete reliance on melee weapons that'll kill them.
If you are able to create a creature from scracth, as it seems the URSA are, why would you make it a blind creature that can only track one smell? The fact these things don't run around bumping into walls is impressive
Like they have a lamer-version of Daredevil's advanced senses.
@@louisduarte8763 If that was the case they'd be able to hear humans. But they don't. They seem to only move around based on very limited smells
@@Mobysimo because other (better) senses seem to be heretic to their religion -.-
The whole "sacredness prohibits planet surface damage" is actually a great way to force hand to hand combat in a futuristic sci fi setting, I actually really like that concept, but the "religion prohibits eyes"? You'd need some TOP tier world building to justify that contrivance.
@Always Plotting sure, that works fine. For me the crucial element wouldn't be the "how it happened" per se, but more the "why" the species would be so fanatical as to give up such an epic advantage. Like in earth religions, murder is quite often a sin, but damn near all of them are willing to kill in order to take/keep territory. Ending life is bad but we're very willing to do it for an advantage. Do you get what I mean? I'm rambling lol, but I already typed this out so I'm going with it. Maybe I mean "characterization" more than "world -building"
I love that the entire premise of After Earth is two factions of dumbasses are continuously trapped in a war that could be over incredibly quickly if either group had any intelligent thought or common sense
Literally, either side could fully commit and outright win, or the two could compromise and make peace at any time, but they both just choose eternal suffering lol
One side could easily wipe out the other if they sent more then just a few Ursa every invasion (Skrel)
And the other could win if they at the very least started up a factory producing M16s and MANPADS while hooking them up to their own ships (Novans)
Sounds like the US of A
I mean I can kinda understand the alien if the planet is a religious site they want to preserve it seem like a good idea especially when it actually works I mean there's like a few million human left and each attack ends up with hundreds of casualties on the human side
@@athunderfan they should've blamed it on capitalism somehow; would have been believable!
"My uniform turned black. I think it looks cool but I think it's something bad."
This will be one of my favorite lines from bad movies.
Kinda reminds me of the story of the Sea Captain. Lookout reports, "Captain! Enemy ship on the horizon!" The Captain, "Bring me my RED shirt." Captain puts it on so his crew won't see blood if the Captain is injured and will continue to fight on. Next morning lookout reports, "Captain! Twenty enemy ships on the horizon!" The Captain, "Bring me my BROWN pants."
Did you not reads the INSTRUCTIONS, Kattai?!
XD
@@Ramsey276one Yup, almost as if that was his first day wearing the suit. Wasn't there a whole story arc about him going through military training and not fulfilling his dads expectations....
@@HappyBeezerStudios exactly sounds like pretty basic information to learn
@@davidtherwhanger6795 ahaha seen the same joke from 90's and about [gangster]
"Everything here has evolved to kill humans"
"Humanity hasn't lived here in centuries"
Two of the DUMBEST lines meant to be taken seriously.
Humans left a slightly damaged earth for a harsh, barren desert world. They aren't very smart.
And clearly that's false beacuse several animals and plants don't outright kill humans and ignore them or I think In 1 case outright help them. So that's bull crap.
Also, stuff doesn't evolve that fast in 1000 years. Under ideal circumstances most of those changes would take tens to hundreds of thousands of years bc they're so drastic
Taking it charitably and with a lot more info than the movie gives it could mean that people had to leave because the fauna evolved to survive the humans presence and climate change and shit so coming back it's all ultra hostile.
When I saw the trailer, I laughed out loud.
How does a planet covered in so many photosynthesizing plants have a lower oxygen level than a desert world?
Yeah, if anything the more likely problem would be too much oxygen.
Add to that, "An oreo that gives you oxygen" is weird as hell.
But if they went for "The atmosphere is toxic", then "an oreo with some temporary medicine that will supress the effects of the toxins" makes much more sense.
Honestly, I still think the aliens from after earth deserve a spot more than the humans.
They have at the very least hovercraft, interplanetary travel and advanced bioscience technology.
And they use all their technological might to make blind aliens who smell fear...
Since the aliens clearly like making stupidly elaborate weapons.
I recommend making explosive boomerangs that explode when they return to the users hand.
Yes . I agree or biological weapon that only attacks their genes since their religion says other genes are to inferior to be used in the formula.
What about mines that only explode when you place them? I see big things in our future
"No need to thank me."
Fun fact combat/hunting Boomerangs don't return to you, yes combat/hunting boomerangs are a real thing. Boomerangs that return are a toy.
@@ricardoospina5970 Sokka had one that did both lol.
After Earth is a rare example of the more answers you get to how this universe works the dumber it becomes.
That's not rare... it's happens in literally all Shamlamadingdong's movies. And every Stevem Seagal movie, somehow...
All sci-fi universes become dumber the more they try to explain it. There are very many levels of dumb, though.
@@tschorschYeah, there's a 'slight' dumbening, and then an 'R word that TH-cam censors, despite it having legitimate uses' dumbening.
"Everything has evolved to kill humans."
"Ah I see we are in Australia."
It would make more sense if this were a regular survival film and they crash landed in Australia.
Australia is more dangerous.
Fun fact: The Earth scenes were filmed in Costa Rica my country.
Second Fun fact: As a result I went to see it only because of that and honnestly the most fun I got out of the movie was seeing when I reconnized our local terrain
The beautiful nature was the only good part of the movie. :)
Quisiera decir lo mismo de Total Recall, película que quisieron hacer ver futurista usando el metro de la capital de México (mi país) como escenario, pero la realidad es que en la actualidad se ve bastante deplorable.
I envy people from New Zealand, here in my country, "el Cañón del Sumidero" was so contaminated by trash that it needed a couple making an adult video there in order to the government did something and clean it after they got mad because the video, instead of the trash, receiving massive backlash from people.
Ngl Recognizing your local area in a movie sounds really fun!
the beautiful landscape was the only good part so cheers
@@MrlspPrtI actually understand the pain of outsiders miss-representing your country, Jurassic Park is suposed to happen in an island near Costa Rica but they never came here, they went to Hawaii to film. And the book is even worse since the finale says that our army bombed the island, WE DONT HAVE AN ARMY, and even if we had, we would never burn down a forest with napalm and cause and ecological disaster.
My first reaction to the monsters was : how do they avoid obstacles ? Because I'm pretty sure walls and holes in the ground have absolutely no fear.
They use their sense of touch... whenever they smack into the obstacles.
@@theminerboy5694 The Aliens created The Ursa to clean up the mess of humanity, WE Created the Roomba.
I like you.
What the hell are you talking about my man? Everyone knows that walls and holes are complete cowards, were you absent that day or what?
The ground: "I fear no man, but that thing" "it scares me"
"We could probably wipe these things out by complete accident" most true thing I have heard all week.
This man read the extra lore for the After Earth series?! He deserves more than a Like and a Sub. He deserves the Purple heart
Hell, he deserves a fucking harem and all the beers he could ever drink.
Yea almost like it’s his job or something
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@@jangamaster8677 yes it is, but he could've stopped at the movie if he wanted.
@@jangamaster8677 There's doing your job, and then there's going above and beyond.
I find it hard to believe that humans would forget how to fight.
(Low oxygen levels when the world looks like a forest? Yeah I call bullshit on that too. :D And nights aren't freezing when the trees are mostly leafy, they aren't adapted for it.)
Well, it could be that the seas are quite dead.
A good amount of our oxygen is from the ocean.
@@youkofoxy w h a l e s
They mammals larger than humans, on a low oxygen planet.HOW DO THE MONKEYS BREATH?!
Also things evolved to kill humans, somehow? But our harms to the planet are generally indirect, killing the humans doesn't help. And like, when a shark kills a person we send people out to cull sharks, killing dozens of them. If something evolved to kill us, we'd drive it to extinction in a heartbeat. Killing humans will never be an evolutionary advantage, the traits would not propagate.
@@CaeruleanWren They dont even have to kill, simply attacking a human is enough to get most animals put down. Heck the state was threating to put down my childhood dog because he accidentally bit my dad. His large K-9 caught his thumb and gave him like 10 stitches. Of course as soon as animal control actually met the dog they were like nah hes fine.
The plot of this franchise seems like there's a The Village situation where the cult is keeping a fake war going
great movie tho
@@deufvelliwasn’t it also made by M Night?
@@jakespacepiratee3740yes
This movie was literally the dumbest incarnation of humans vs the dumbest incarnation of alien lifeforms.
both could be defeated in ground combat by 14th century warriors.
all it takes is some nord berserker taking up some mushrooms or a samurai trained in bushido to defeat one of these aliens
Bro. Throw a Spartan, a Knight, A Viking, and A Samurai into a time machine, send them to Nova Prime via a teleporter, show them the alien weaknesses and have them fight these aliens.
Record who kills more aliens.
@@liubei3058 That sounds like such a better movie 😂
@@gregghunt8859 An advanced sci-fi civilization that kidnaps ancient warriors to pit in combat against ridiculous genetic abominations as part of a game show. That feels like something I should have encountered before.
You don't even really need to be fearless. Take the special blade tech, put it on pikes. Form a pike block. Laugh as the second half of the enemy loses track of the pike block when the first half's suicide charges make them no longer scary to the guys in the pike block.
@@Coid i think there is obe predstor movie where the yautja kidnap some of the best mercs hitmen assassins gangsters in the world and dump them in some alien planet and then they start hunting them but they put a nice fight doe. Not the same thing but yea a ancient warriors if all over the world would be sick
I never understood the emphasis on "no fear" in this movie... Doesn't Little Willy Style hide from the URSA in a glass ball or something at some point?? So why don't soldiers battling the URSA just wear a damn wet-suit and motorcycle helmet?? Surely, the thing isn't reading your mind, it's smelling the pheromones or whatever your body produces when stressed! Cover your body, problem solved!
I won't even get into idea of using some damn projectile weapons and/or pheromone-lure to fight these monsters. ANYTHING is better than battling them with close-range melee weapons with their ONLY way of finding you not being masked or hidden at all!
Not being afraid of the URSA is one thing, but feeling NO FEAR, period, when battling them seems impossible. You're not worried about ANY of the people under your command?
Sidenote: it's like when scuba divers dive with great white sharks. You're wearing a full-body rubber suit and full face mask... To the shark, you smell like a damn tire or something. Go out with just some snorkeling gear and swim trunks and see if that same shark doesn't take a little test-bite...
PS: a little disappointed Zealot didn't reach for the low-hanging fruit and link the Novans to Scientologists!
but if you engage in range you don't get the GLORIUS MELEE COMBAT
I have an even better idea go hide in underground bunkers and just use drones to fight them. Just strap the stupid spear weapons on to the underside of the drones and fly them right into the big scary monsters from a safe and secure place with no fear of getting attacked. Or better yet have your ships in orbit just do there job and shot the shit out of the other ships before they can even make planet fall.
@@siluda9255 I'd be down for this... In ANY other movie lol
And why are the soldiers afraid when they KNOW that being afraid is their problem? Have they not heard of training?
@@yaldabaoth2 you can't train for that! Like I said, you CAN train to not be afraid of the URSA itself but there is so much going on, you couldn't possibly bring your brain to a place of fearlessness on a consistent basis under any circumstances
If the ursa detects the humans based on pheromones, the ultimate super weapon would be gimp rubber suit.
Imagining the Ursa getting gimped to death is way funnier than it has a right to be.
After Earth is one of the most historically important science fiction movies ever made. Because it annihilated Jaden Smiths acting career.
finished it
From a shitty karate kid remake to a nonsense sci fi, truly, how laudable
He was ACTING!? Okaaay.
@@joannpelas5101 I sincerely apologise.
I should have written ..... "acting" career. Forgive my bad grammar. /wink
Well, he sure as hell wasn't fighting aliens for real 😂
If they're capable of creating sticks that can shape metal into a molecule thin blade, then they should be capable of creating bullets that come to a similar point enabling them to pierce whatever armor the Ursa have.
Why the fuck haven't they just built new guns?! They literally have the technology, right there!
maybe the material is extremely rare. Still there were thousands of better solutions.
@@Jebu911 Literally EVERY one of their soldiers is armed with those cutlass weapons.
It's their ONLY weapon. Bullets, are very small. You could make THOUSANDS of them from ONE cutlass.
Just one decent spear or pollaxe formation would just end the ursa fear or not you cant just run into a wall of spikes
@@TheTomcantdecide here's another novel idea.
HELICOPTER WITH GUN!
@@haku8135 why gun tho? Napalm. Burn bear burn! Or suffocate.
The chapter about this movie in will smith's recent autobiography really clarifies what happened. It was made shortly after willow decided she didn't want to do music business because will pushed her so hard so will pampered Jayden and was so distracted trying to make sure his son was comfortable he didn't pay attention to the script and actually fired the coach will had been working with for most of his blockbusters. All his films suffered afterwards AND jayden repaid the pampering by trying to emancipate himself.
you mean cut off the genitals and become female
I wouldn’t trust Will’s account in a book too highly. Sounds more like damage control
@@daltongallowayhe admitted he did too much with his daughter, babied his son, and then made a career changing decision how much damage control could that be? the faults were laid out
Where tf does any of that sound Iike damage control?@daltongalloway
If you can build generation ships then you can build orbital habitats, the Novan's really have no excuses. And if they have drives capable of a percentage of C then they should have strapped a bunch onto some asteroids and fired them at the enemies planet. The sudden appearance of self-guided kinetic impactors should get the message that we are sapient and sick of their bull-shit across nicely assuming they survive.
Not to forget. If you can build FTL ships. Resources are no problems. Just go to another planet or asteroid and mine that.
Or just go back home. No holy planet, no conflict.
@@Balazs1102_ Or to any other planet.
Stay around Sol and convert the effort for generation ships into habitats that filter out cosmic rays and are engineered to support humans and other complex life. If they have to be mobile, make Craftworlds like Warhammer 40k's Eldar
@@supercellodude and even if they can't shield them perfectly. Just orbit mars or Jupiter to be further from the sun
Also, if the creature’s are significantly bigger than humans why not have narrow corridors only humans can fit in?
This is why how no matter how KEEWL she is, the Xenomorph Queen will never be more scary than a regular Xeno who can actually follow you everywhere.
@@DeepEye1994 I get you and I think the Xeno is terrifying but I think that the Queen is more terrifying in the sense of what she can do. Like one Queen could potentially wipe out a civilization while one lone Xeno might not be able to
@@DeepEye1994 You say that now but when she decides to use her telepathy to drive you insane you'll be wishing for a xeno to come along and put you down quickly
Stop applying logic! This is HOLLYWOOD! 😂
You are speaking the Truth . You are too dangerous to be left alive
This phenomenon is known as psychopathy. Fearless psychopaths.
I know they were in the desperate pinch but if you made blades that can pierce The Ursa...You made bullets that can pierce the Ursa, granades with shrapnel that can bust an Ursa, and youve made missiles that can go through Krell ships.
Yeah, and one would think that after 7 centuries of war, they would've made at least a prototype of a Ursa killing gun (based on their slow ass tech dev)
Yeah it's really stupid. Since bullets have more force they would be far more capable of piercing an Ursa than any melee weapon wielded by a weak ass human.
@@GeorgeMonet true that and if negotiating a ceasefire with the aliens .under terms of we will leave your holy planet over next 200 years to return to our home system and leave you in peace doesn't gain any ground.
You have the unthinkable option of strapping one of their sub light drives to a string of asteroids . using the wormhole technology to launch them in the hundreds aimed at their home planet and outposts to point you can force a ceasefire.
Then take any captured or disabled ships back for intensive study .
I don't care what magic crap you're made out of, there is an amount of kinetic energy that will cause you to stop being alive.
@@thomas.parnell7365 Negotiate.... with Xenos? HERESY!
I heard one that this was originally pitched as a survival movie where will and his astranged son get into a car accident in the wilderness and the son has to go find help while being guided by will via radio. I feel like the story might have breathed a bit more without having to introduce a scifi world on top of the usual character and plot intros that all movies have to do.
That would make a lot more sense, and avoid the dumb "no emotions" angle as well.
I rather had that movie instead
His son's goofy ass accent wouldn't make sense in that context. Had to be future humans...
@@a10miletooth all of them had goofy ass accents
@@Dave102693 yeah, but his was extra
It’s amazing that either species even made it past a single generation in this movie.
This movie could have had some killer visuals. Imagine if jaydens treck was through a former city being reclaimed by nature. Climbing the ruins of fallen skyscrapers, caved in roads forming new rivers, and maybe even left behind savage humans who help jayden because they think he's a god.
true but idek if there would be much cities left after a 1,000 years of neglect, you probably wouldn't even be able to identify them as having been cities, so the only places I'd expect there to be still visible ruins of cities is maybe in arid or desert regions where vegetation doesn't grow around it and completely cover it, though they would still be heavily eroded from the wind and sand.
I'm pretty sure it would take more than 1,000 years to render major metro areas unrecognizable as such. Most of the buildings would probably be extremely dangerous to enter and explore in terms of those left standing after all that time, but modern building materials (let alone the more advanced ones they must have used before leaving) are likely to hold their shape even against the reclamation of nature for a very long time. We still find largely intact ancient ruins from about a thousand years back that were built using far more primitive materials.10,000 or more, I'd agree.
@@Dell-ol6hb we literally find cities older than 1,000 years, add that to modern material science, that can last a whole lot longer than ancient material, and add future material science, and you'll have buildings that will last a long, long time
I kind of like this as a separate story, like maybe the aftermath of an alien invasion or mass disease(or multiple) spread through humanity, leaving few people who have limited capabilities for rebuilding society and thus live in the decaying ruins like a jungle
isn't that just I Am Legend? They had the entire blueprint for that idea, but somehow they would've still f'd it up
It would make sense to make earth a no go quarentine zone if it was overrun by the flood from halo or something, but harsh climate and some freaky animals? Just build fortified settlements.
or go on mass hunts of extreme prejuidace. the upcoming new Jurassic Park movie makes no sense as to how the dinosaurs spread so far to threaten humanity
Humanity already has driven most megafauna to extinction without even trying; and most of that was done with literal sticks and stones.
@@dougrattmann1 Yup. T Rex would just be target practice for most hunters much less an actual military. It really boils down, I think, to how little hollywood understands modern weapons. a .308 would likely blow a hole in a Rex's brain plenty fine, much less a .50 or a 20 mm.
Yeah, just make it underground. Constant temperature and less energy used on A/C. Plus added defense if the aliens decided to invade earth.
@@joewelch4933 Hold on a second. While a really well placed .308 could *probably* dome a T-Rex, dangerous game hunters in real life prefer gigantic goofy rounds like the Nitro Express range.
I have now created a head-canon that theres another version of humans living on earth, mostly underground but traveling to the surface to hunt and what have you. The oxygen is actually fine and its actually the Novans that eventually evolved while in a more oxygen heavy environmwnt.
That’s not how evolution works, not that the movie cares
*And the worst part …*
All the weapons and tactic deficiencies were freaking obvious *when watching the film.*
A lot of "Societies too stupid to exist" films have flaws that _only become really noticeable_ after you've watched the film and thought about it.
During the movie every viewer was banging their head against a wall over these mistakes. You weren't lost in the moment and the experience of the make believe Universe, you were hate watching and doing a real time critique.
[That's why I've already posted a few comments before watching this video (which it turns out covered points I also made), as the failures are that obvious].
We sew with Covid how science can be twisted to fight any agenda
@@RedPillCosby-012 Yeah, Anti-Science and those that said Covid aint real sure did mess-up hard.
It's a reasonably old movie, isn't it? Came out in the 2010's? When it came out and I heard any sort of review about it, I remember I was playing D&D with my brother and the boys. Can't remember if I was DMing or not, though.
@@mirceazaharia2094 I actually watched the film in 2011 in Ukraine 🇺🇦 it was dubbed in Russian 🇷🇺 and no English-speaking accommodation (myself 🇺🇸) so I was fairly lost but knew it was bad. I was spared from knowing just how bad.
@@mirceazaharia2094 Media Zealot is like a more specialized version of Hbomberguy.
Have this as today's random fun-fact that may lead you to exciting new content-sources.
The line that still makes me angry was "everything on this planet evolved to kill humans" but humans were gone for only a few hundred years? And even then if there's no humans on earth then *how* does a creature evolve that fast again against something that's not present on earth? And then there's the "smell your fear issue" , the movie shows that you are protected if you're in a bubble, the main characters sister put him in one... So why don't they wear something like a hazmat suit? And then there's the gravity. They constantly say Earth's gravity is stronger than what they're used to but they never do anything with that, in fact Katai (kitai?) runs and even jumps pretty high and far despite that information constantly being fed to us
M. Night: "What if we made humans the Quarians, but, like, completely dumb. Also Scientology's cult shit is shoved in there for some ungodsly reason."
Intern: "Okay... why?"
M. Night: "Because I ran out of fucks to give about halfway through Signs."
Father you've returned I've missed you please... no more cigarettes trips
But he forgot the Milk
Fortunately MY father never did that to me!(tho my WIFE did it to OUR children!)
It was for milk and cigarettes
@@jrooksable oooof
@@jrooksable Holy 💩!!
So the ursa don’t even register you if you aren’t afraid of them? So why would you be afraid of something that’s harmless because it doesn’t even register you until you start to fear it?
Such a stupid bio weapon to engineer.
That reminds me of those fake kung fu masters and their "ki blasts" that can be countered by simply not believing in them.
Because Big Ungly Monster comming after you? Though, what you said made me imagine some Shaggy & Scooby sequency where a utterly confused URSA helps them then makes a double take as they panic then fails to attack because the scent is overwelming.
Or a civilian in a closed building seeing URSA one just... stand there... doing nothing... completly lost
So a bit like those loud little dogs that are kept chained on front porches / yards. They bark / scream bloody murder at you when youre a little kid because youre all afraid of the snarling little beast even though it cant make it past the chain its on despite its best efforts, but after a few years or if your old enough to know better they know youre not afraid of them and they just shut up after one or two barks.
yeah, like seems to me like a bunch of drones would be ideal to fight them off
@@gaiusjuliuspleaser reminds me of the movie "skeleton key"
My wife and I have a running gag about, "......doing something as bad as Jayden smith in After Earth!"
The animals on Earth shouldn't even be any different than the ones we have now, after all, they only left 1,000 years ago, you'd barely have any changes in the species that survived the extinction, besides maybe very small animals that breed rapidly, like rodents or small birds, but even then it wouldn't be anything near as drastic and easily noticeable as they show in the movie
Somehow they aren't bothered by the low oxygen.
@@daviddechamplain5718 see all those trees? Low O2 my ass.
@@anotherdrummer2 I was being sarcastic. I probably should've made that clearer. Big animals need oxygen as much as we do.
Lizards on an island adapted to eating berries within months of their prey going extinct so I feel a wrecked planet earth could force adaptation quickly.
@@nikkibrowning4546 good point, that’s why I mentioned smaller animals would adapt somewhat, but my point is that there wouldn’t be the level of adaptation shown in the movie, like animals getting many times larger in only a 1000 years
I like the part that he says most of the Earth freezes at night. It's obvious everyone involved with this movie has no clue how weather works on Earth... AND THEY LIVE ON IT.
Also, never understood how they can't breath in "low oxygen" when in fact that many plants on the planet would create massive amounts of oxygen.
Ugh.
I've been plastered every time I watch this movie, but I always assumed there were toxins in the air that made it dangerous.
@@Radnugget We're overthinking it, I guess :D
Don’t forget about the plankton pumping oxygen as well
Thing is there are giant egales flying about, planets got to have a pretty high Oxygen content to sustain that sort of mega fauna.
Not trying to defend the film, but a high CO2 level can be a problem much worse than just low oxygen. CO2 absorption is what really needed for immediate human survival.
I love Tuvok he's one of my favorite star trek characters, he's also extremely terrifying when angry which is why he suppresses his emotions.....if he didn't he would probably strangle everyone, lol.
Dude even had a holodeck program where he just strangles people like Neelix. You'd think something like that wouldn't even be allowed by the computer but then again Worf already had his Klingon calisthenics program where he does much worse to the NPCs.
The idea that animals on Earth specifically evolved to kill humans despite humans not inhabiting the planet for 1000+ years is the dumbest part of this movie. That's like North American predators evolving specifically to kill horses despite them having gone extinct on the continent and not existing there for millennia, only being reintroduced when Europeans arrived and unknowingly brought the species back to the continent they came from.
Was not aware North American horses had gone extinct!
You can't say it is the dumbest part of the movie! There are so many dumb parts to choose from. This movie set for the bar for dumb as low as they could get it and then started digging.
Or as stupid as evolution creating a termite that's only ability to survive is to digest wood fibers is through the use of a protozoa and said protozoa can't survive without the termite.
Yeah kinda an oof moment for science there.
@@scutumfidelis1436 You: I don't understand science so it must be wrong.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Explain how these two radically different creatures were specifically evolved for one another, I'll wait. If you remove one from the other they both die no chance of evolving btw.
"Considering them little more than vermin. But if the supposed vermin are capable of repelling your forces constantly, what does that make you?"
Australia, that makes you Australia, ask the Emu.
Or most of the occidental world during the numerous plagues.
Mmm.. are you implying rest of the world had less plagues than "occidental" one? I am afraid you are incorrect
@@KateeAngel well, I was mostly taking about the plagues that killed 1/3 of the european population during the middle ages. And mostly transmitted by vermin.
But if there are other plagues that killed such a proportion of their continent, I stand corrected.
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@@lnomsim2 probably the original measles and flu hit those hieghts.
40k Space Marines vs Ursa would be the most comically 1 sided cross franchise match in sci-fi history, big super strong damage resitant aliens gentically engineered to kill by locking in on fear pheromones against super soldiers who 'know no fear' inside suits of fully enclosed power armour carrying standard infantry weapons capable of knocking out IFV's as there basic 'rifle' is a fully automatic RPG launcher, a single Astartes could probably solo the whole invasion force
Don't forget Space Marines fight Xenos that are far more powerful than the Ursa(Tyranids)
@@Pixel22-fs3ttComparing the Ursa to Tyranids is like comparing a amputee to mike tyson
My theory: the aliens don't want to exterminate humans.
They're using Ursas (which operate on fear) against humans to slowly select for fearless humans
Forced evolution basically
That's not a bad idea for an alien invasion story. It clearly explains why aliens don't just destroy everyone, which is the biggest plothole for most alien invasions. Either that or they do it for fun like the Predators.
That reminds me of a great Star Trek theory, that posits that the reason the Borg so often attack with only one cube at a time is that they're farming other civilisations.
They send a single cube, which scares the locals something fierce and is just barely stopped. This make the locals panic and encourages them to develop new technology to try and defend themselves, tech the Borg can then acquire with their next visit. Then if the locals look like they're getting too powerful; that's when the hundreds of other cubes are sent to deliver the final decisive blow.
@@JamesTobiasStewart Makes sense but then that means they kind of dropped the ball with Starfleet. They kept playing games with them to include time travel shenanigans and only encouraged them to keep crafting better defenses. If you consider Discovery to be canon (I don't, personally, and I really don't care about No True Scotsman fallacies or other argumentation on the subject) then the Borg seriously messed up. Even without taking that into account, the future version of Starfleet according to Voyager and Enterprise had time travel and manipulation built right into their ships, never mind the "subatomic disruptors" they were armed with. They probably thought to employ the same tactic with the Federation and then realized their mistake too late given all the setbacks they were handed by the madwoman Janeway and the original un-cucked mad lad version of Picard.
Didn't they basically genetically engineer the ursas? I know human genetics is likely really different than whatever their life blueprint system is, but still, they already understand and execute the concept.
So basically like xcom: enemy unknown's elders? Invade to get species to develop their psionic potential
It would be fascinating if the reason why everything is happening this way is because someone or something is pulling the strings. A never ending war is a good way to keep a population under control. This logic applies to both sides.
That is only an issue in underdeveloped societies.
True. Education is an effective population control method. Proof: Earth. Population explosion is mostly over and I recall seeing estimates that the population will reach its peak this century.
I doubt that's a problem to a civilization capable of colonizing inhospitable planets.
@@samiraperi467 in what earth do you live in?
@@marianodenisvega4323 why wouldn't it be? They have switched to a "better" tech which seems to have been perfectly better for everything but what they are facing. This is far enough ahead and removed enough that people might have forgotten about guns and missiles. So they spoon feed in just enough tech to keep the war going indefinitely, tiny advance response with tiny advance.
You know somethings wrong when bubble boy can be used as an effective survival guide
The Novans, in how they act, how their society is structured, even the Rage family, just scream "this was written by a Scientologist, or written so a Scientologist could tolerate it." The whole fear control technique sounds like Scientology training, they don't like democracy (one of the hidden elements of Scientology is they aren't wild about voting), they try to combine religion and science (which is what Scientology does). The only thing out of true with it totally being Hubbard-like is that the alien enemies are also religious fanatics, and that they aren't willing to fight the humans face-to-face like the Psychlos in "Battlefield Earth" (both the novel and the film.)
Voting doesn't matter when it is so easy to control the machines and select the future leaders. You can never vote yourself out of slavery.
Doesn't every culture combine religion and science?
@@1994mrmysteryman Not really. Lots of scientists are religious but if they're good scientists they don't let their spiritual beliefs affect their studies and theories on the material world. Scientology is about making bullshit "scientific" theories influenced almost entirely by spiritualism with some random sci fi stuff thrown in about aliens.
@@1994mrmysteryman I think they meant they are seen as one in the same
@@1994mrmysterymanwell use to be until we started separating the two for good reasons
"Humans are walking talking mass extinction events. We could probably wipe these things out by complete accident." Rofl!
The day we discover how to get to another solar system, is going to be called by all alien life
the day hell broke lose.
@@julesmasseffectmusic what if we already did. And we are just descendants of castaways, stranded in the far reaches of our home world.
Yet it never happens no matter how many times bad things happen to them.
@@maosama3695 ah, battlestar lore
A what buzz? @1:23
On god I heard it too 😂
A niggative buzz
3 weeks and still not cancelled? 💀
Facts
My favorite part of this video is that all the supplementary material for the movie exists only to excuse all of the plot holes and crappy worldbuilding
I get a lot of expanded universes do this sometimes, but it feels like the entire point of the 1000AE universe WAS to be an excuse
Yah, I noticed how it feels less like their own stories and more like someone is desperately trying to cover up how stupid this all is, "No no no, the Cutlass is the only thing that they can use, they also can't advance technology even if they discovered how to use a Warp Drive, Oh and the Aliens that they are fighting find the grounds as religious which is why they use Ursa's...and they Also hate eyesight!...Trust us guys, this actually all about a commentary on Religion.
"If your fans need to do homework to enjoy your movie you made a bad movie."
And if you made a bad movie, nobody is going to go out of their way to want supplementary material. It's a failure from both ends.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Yah, supplementary materials should be expansions of the universe, Like imagine if there were no books or comics, we would have a alien race dropping creatures with only one sense being fought with a magical blade which most would wonder why you can't just shoot a AutoCannon round into one or use fire to cook them.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 Exactly, expanded universe materials are like a dessert. Nice to have, but if the meal doesn't work at all without it, then you haven't cooked dinner properly.
It's why I find the character of General Grievous frustrating because 'Revenge Of The Sith' gives no details on who he is, what exactly he is or why he matters so much. He just enters the film as someone who is already important and everyone knows about. Now yes stuff like the Clone Wars show gave us his history, motivations, etc and it was actually quite good, but you don't get points for things that aren't in the film.
The fact that Jayden is young & still being trained as a Ranger was a great opportunity to have him ask world building questions (like the lack of ranged weapons) that tutors or Will could answer to at least shore up the plot holes.
Except it doesn't excsue any of the plot holes and crappy world building as it shows simply that the writers are freaking morons. Each thing they write is more stupid than the last.
Holy crap, the entire universe has the impressive ability to not utterly implode due to the sheer amount of plotholes.
I actually don’t think Shyamalan should take any blame cause Will Smith is actually the one who pitched the idea to make the movie in the first place. He deserves shit for A LOT of the directing and story writing he’s done, but this wasn’t even his idea
The fact that he thought they could make a multimedia franchise to compete with the likes of Star Wars, Star Trek, and other popular Sci-fi shows and movies along with dragging his son into this is also quite idiotic
Good lord, thank you for tackling this movie. I swear there are few movies that piss me off more than this one. The sheer stupidity of it all, the lack of weapon variety, the ineffective ursa bioweapons, the lack of pressurized suits, the freezing nights, the lack of oxygen, I feel insulted someone thought this would be entertainment. My younger brother who was around 8 could see the flaws in this story. Never gonna get those hours back...
Seems like the dumbest folks left eath.
Another issue with the Ursa is that humans should be able to be desensitized to them over time and with exposure, at least making their fear-sensing a lot less effective against trained military personnel.
My problem with After Earth was that the monsters could have been defeated by wear hazmat suits. Wars over, Novan's win.
You should try the Brotherhood of Steel from Fallout next cause some of their decisions are pretty stupid
Or Vault Tec.
Enclave
Everyone in fallout is an idiot
One reason why I like the non-canon Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel game is because the Midwestern faction actually does the smart thing and starts recruiting locals into their ranks, a practice normally frowned upon by the normal Brotherhood. It’s why they were originally cast out in the first place, sent to Midwest aboard airships that ended up crashing.
And they don’t just recruit regular folks. You can even recruit intelligent Deathclaws at one point
That's the thing though: BoS was never written to be an perfect faction, but was always flawed because their main objective of hoarding technology to keep it out of the wrong hands was always misguided.
The fact that the monster is basically called "bear" really bothers me. I imagine the writer used a thesaurus to come up with "ursa" and mistakenly thought it was really clever.
Ahem. I always personally thought that those 'things' being named after me was absolutely racist.
It means "she-bear" in latin
It just brings up the Steven Colbert meme of godless killing machines, the bear.
@@quck5651 and in portuguese
they kinda look like water bears though
This movie feels like a slap to the face of the Sci-Fi genre.
Still find it funny how with all that green we see and Earth has a lack of O2? So photosynthesis some how stopped in that 1000 years? Any way, bad Sci-Fi is bad.
All the new animal strains are mouth breathers?
I think that in movie there was way too much oxygen for a normal human to handle, and what that breather fluid does is just regulate the amount of oxygen the body can process (don't ask me how, I'm not a medic or biologist), at least I think that's the approach they were taking, if not, then the low oxygen one is really stupid, I mean the fact that there's si much flora and that it's so green (yes, plants being green has to do on how much oxygen they produce) signals that the air is really clean and that there's lots of oxygen
@@argentin2306
That sounds like a more likely explanation.
What I have understood as the common consensus, is that humans would really struggle to breath the air of cretaceous, or jurassic periods.
What with the (too high for human comfort) oxygen content, as well as other chemicals that would be outright harmful to us, but fine for the better adapted animals of that time.
So perhaps not so far fetched in the film. But poorly portrayed.
Also 'every life form here is evolved to kill humans'?
When the entire human race has effectively vacated the planet, and business carry on like it doesnt even matter.
That was... stupid. 😐
@@Wavemaninawe I still believe that humans still could of went back to earth.
@@Dave102693
Possible. But that still does not make sense for the claim.
In order for 'every species to have evolved particularly to hunt and kill humans', all of them would have needed to spend tens if not hundreds of millenia, with humans as their primary food source. With survival of the fittest, favoring those who best adapted and overcame human defenses.
And that was not the case, even when humans still lived on earth.
*A explanation that "redeems" the film.*
What if Will Smith's character and the other Ghosters *were Psychopaths?*
That would explain the lack of fear … and their deficiencies in both parenting and _running society._
[BTW, Psychopaths are known for throwing rocks at animals when children, perhaps like father like son. Junior has unlocked his birthright and is now as emotionally damaged as dad].
As for settling on other planets including back on Earth, what if the Aliens will use their full military potential on other Worlds, and Nova Prime is the only "safe place" due to them handicapping themselves.
Any other Human Colonies get Base Delta Zeroed, so Nova Prime is the only place where the big issue is just stupid big blind predators … and that Humanity is _ruled by psychopaths that hamstring the Human countermeasures_ in order to make themselves super important and Humanities _only hope,_ instead of letting Humanity develop very effective technology and strategies that would completely negate the Ursa.
*Or…* perhaps the Aliens would be okay with Humanity moving back to Earth _(or anywhere else)_ … they only became anti Human once their own planetary temple was invaded, perhaps they were never bothered by Humans being on Earth.
What if the Ursa are also a *limited response* _just to get Humanity to move._ Keep pestering Humans with an annoyance, not a extermination attempt, just to get them to relocate. So in fact the opposite of the above _Base Delta Zero scenerio,_ if Humans leave Nova Prime the Aliens will leave them alone.
And that could also explain why "Will Smith" was so adamant about not going to Earth … can't let your fellow Novans/subjects know that there's a lush garden World that just happens to be Humans original home, waiting to be resettled.
But … that would mean that "Will Smith" no longer is the un-opposable leader of Humanity, as he's no longer vital to Humanity's survival _and a living God Emperor [oh I'm going to regret writing that last line]._
So he keeps Humanity trapped in this needless cycle, in order to preserve his own power.
And now he can hand the reigns over to his disturbed son one day, knowing that he also is a potential psychopath.
There could be a sequel/fanfic where Humanity tries to overthrow the Rangers, who are deliberately keeping Humanity in peril?
Why wasn't any of this in the movie? The only thing I remember from it is Jaden running around with a spear in his hand.
Good script👌
Of the two I think the second might make a better movie, but vastlie less likely to ever be made.
"FOR THE EMPORER!"
currently 1 in 20 is a sociopath, throw in we evac'd the planet the number would be higher and they would breed. there would be way more sociopaths.
@@julesmasseffectmusic sociopathy and psychopathy are two different things
So they have an automated warning system that says "don't go near this planet ever!" Set up to presumably warn other Novas, who should all know the place is off limits. But that same system doesn't automatically the navy "hey, one of your ranger ships passed a sensor, it had multiple malfunctions detected, and its signal was lost in conditions matching a crash. Maybe send someone to check on them?"
Even without watching the review I can say it isn't the stupid civilization, it is a stupid movie that should have never been made.
lol
Exactly 💯
This should've been called: Movies Too Stupid To Really Exist.
We sew with Covid how science can be twisted to fit any agenda
With the size of the emergency beacons, there should be 5+ on each ship. Also, they had plenty of time to send a distress signal before entering Earth's atmosphere.
The extra materials just makes everyone in this universe even more stupid than they already appeared to be. Absolutely everyone is dumb in this situation. The aliens, the humans, heck even the animals.
This wouldn't have been as stupid a movie (though the acting would have still sucked) if they just made it a fantasy movie. Dump all the advanced tech into the abyss. The Ursa track human fear using magic, everyone only has melee weapons because it's a medieval fantasy setting, etc. It would still not be good. But at least the universe would be a bit less stupid.
Anything to avoid the painful bending over backwards to explain why everyone is so dumb here. The humans don't realize that Earth has become habitable because...reasons. Their enemies don't give the Ursa the ability to adequately track their prey because...religion. All to defend a planet that is holy to them despite not living anywhere near it.
The planet being holy to the aliens is the most believable part of this movie/ story. That planet may be in an orbit around a star that is central to a constellation from the aliens planet that is itself central to their religion. The planet may be their version of a heaven or paradise. Their going there could be explained as an pilgrimage that takes place every so many of their years for religious reasons.
@M and you’ll still be wrong, just not with s loud mouth.
+davidtherwhanger6795 The Skrell are blind, though, just like their Ursa creations. How would they even view a constellation and make a religion around it?
It's sad really, read online that the original script was about a father/son story, where Will's character, who was a workaholic, tried to bond with his son on a camping trip on the way back they would have a car accident and Will's cxharacter would be incapacetated, leavin Jaden's character alone to face the woods in search for help, seemed like a good story, dunno why they had to add the "sci fi" twist....
"My suits turning black, i like it but i think its something bad". Someone wrote that line and it somehow made it into the movie, and then Jaden Smith delivered the line in the worst way ever and it still somehow made it onto film. Just brilliant.
I would believe it more if the aliens from after earth only sent small attacks on nova then let them rebuild only to attack again because they are bored and seeing the puny humans struggle is the most fun they've had.
Yeah every few decades the aliens get bored and drop some murder monsters on the humans and stream it to their equivalent of reality television.
@@zerrodefex hell depending on how long they live 20-30 years could be there equivalent of 1-2.
Any time M. Night Shyamalan gets ahold of a project, you know it's going to suck. He made two decent films, let it go to his head, and then churned out disaster after disaster. SOMEHOW, he keeps getting studio money to make more godawful crap.
give you a hint Sham is well known for plagirism. The Village, Sixth Sense were based on other properties
@@ReanuKeevesAus sixth sense was based on an episode of a children's tv show Are You Afraid of the Dark. "The Tale of the Dream Girl," Sham admits to being a super fan of the series.
@@ReanuKeevesAus The Village was a rip off of "Running out of Time" a young adult novel by Margaret Peterson Haddix in 1996. Sham settled the lawsuit.
Will's emotions sure made for a slapping good time at the '22 Oscars.
I suggest the Nazi regime from the Wolfenstein games and the Earth Federation from the Gundam franchise for analysis on how they're advanced sci-fi civilizations that are too stupid to really exist.
Zeon from the Gundam UC timeline as well
I know this sci fi civilization is kinda weird but can you do the Ratchet and Clank universe next cause I really want to see you deconstruct the shit out of the sci fi villains in that series
Basically, if we go with Earlier Ratchet and Clank villains (up to Dreadnought) we basically got an entire galaxy worth of idiots that can't tell how these greedy businessmen or Qwark are doing messed up stuff for a bigger profit. I mean the President was quick to bend the knee when Nefarius used a giant ball that slowly converts people into machines.
@@Predator20357 That certainly is true, but at least the R&C universe doesn't take itself seriously, which isn't too good of an excuse, but at least an explanation.
@@Schnittertm1 Yes at least it's not trying to act like WarHammer or Star Trek or other serious properties, as at least then, it will be mostly just a fun time of looking for how dumb the people are from specific details to overall grand strategies.
@@Predator20357 than there is the future series and beyond.
@@Predator20357 about the government and bussiniess man, sounda just like real life 🙂
After reading will's book i think the roles of him and Jaden was inspired by will and his own pops relationship
One crazy idea is that the novans leaders don't want to advance and cause their enemy's to pull out all the stops knowing they would lose better a never ending stalemate then final death.
Sounds like a theory for the aliens from Signs. Don’t want to get nuked so they stupidly wander around farmland naked and show no advanced technology besides the ships that got them there.
Theories hold up about the same I think. Works on the idea that the side with the power to end the conflict won’t get tired of the stalemate and pull out all the stops just because they can.
Not to say this isn’t plausible though.
Better an end with horror than a horror without end in my opinion
Use the fancy FTL drive to make some bombers or KV weapons then just bomb the cr*p out of the aliens. Job done.
Not very human though. there is an old saying i heard as a kid
A wolf will gnaw off its foot to escape a trap, a human wont but they will wait for the hunter to return and hope to the kill the bastard.
24:45 this is of course ignoring how absurd it is that animals could evolve significantly in a thousand years. Even in the cambrian expansion this wasn't the case.
Only possibility is they didn't so much "evolve" as they were geneered.
After he said he skim-read all the books and comics I was compelled to like and subscribe. He truly sacrifices for his craft
And the Novans looked on at the Giant clad in red armor, adorned with ruby inlaid blood drops and a winged blood drop motive on his left shoulder, as he lay waste to the Ursa with what could only be described as a small automatic grenade launcher. Unhelmed, he gave off no sign of fear, moving far quicker and more quietly than such a massive figure should move, with only hints of a deeper wrath burning in the eyes of the unkown warrior.
Within moments the last of the Ursa was slain and as he turned, the Novans could finally see the face of their savior more clearly, a pale, white face of noble bearing, framed by long hair of a golden hue. He finally addressed them: "Fear not, for the Emperor has sent his Angels to save you and bring you back into the fold of the Imperium."
Well, anyway, the Novans are just what happens when you have an actor that was influenced by a third rate science fiction writer turned cult leader, tries to create a science fiction universe. There was no regard given to all the implications of the technologies an advanced civilization with FTL technology would have. There is also no terra forming, no experimentation with space habitats (e.g. O'Neil cylinder and its larger cousins) and other such possibilities.
Oh, and logic, well, who needs logic if you have a story told by feelings, rather than logic.
Oh my God if this whole movie did just turn out to be part of the Warhammer universe that would have been amazing
What the movie could have been. 😐
I'm no 40k fan. But honestly if the Blood Angels or any other marine chapter.... who am I kidding. If any Imperial Guard Regiment showed up to fight the Novans and the Krell would be (insert bodily waste removal event) bricks of diamonds.
You need logic for suspension of disbelief and realism.
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I feel like this story actually has a ton of potential to be really interesting. If they could fix some of the weird illogical bits, it could be fun!
That's the tragic of movies, when you can see a better movie hiding in the way worse movie you got to watch.
Eeeeeeh. There are some pretty fundamental flaws with the concept. If habitable planets are that rare, how come the hostile aliens found that planet, but not earth?
If the novans built a generation ship to go to nova, why the hell do they not continue to do so? Why are they not practicing PROPER bioconservation by DNA and brain scanning everything?
Why is everything "after" earth when earth is completely viable?
How come in a thousand year war communication was never seen as a viable option?
@@robertnett9793 I've seen a better movie in great films
9:00 so these are a way stupider version of the aliens from A Quiet Place, who themselves have a kinda dumb weakness
To be frank, 1000 years of evolution without is almost nothing compared to the amount of time with humans
the only thing that could excuse all the plot holes, is the religious order knowing everything. but choosing to keep the war going on to stay in power. they don`t have to fear full extermination because the enemy will not commit, they don`t develop full suits and defenses to keep the war going, and keep the war going to keep the population afraid and in control.
We've always been at war with the Skrell!
The military and scientists would have to be in on it as well.
@Michael Price exactly. Why have a military leader if there is no war? With the constant fear of death the religious leader offers hope of an afterlife. The scientist gets to direct society in a scientific way as long as there is a public emergency. All three are probably corrupt and have their reasons for keeping the war going as long as they can handle it.
@@newperve not necessarily. Even with equal polical power a religious leader always holds more power than scientists and generals due to being a religious leader. Also that style of control are not use by scientists and generals. When those 2 want dictatorship they accomplish differently. Soldiers with martial law I'm a police state. Scientists with big brother.
@@JayJayM57 I think the military and scientists would have to be in on it. Twice according to the lore presented here a military leader was the sole governmental power. If the military was not in on it, they would have acted when they had the chance and no one to stop them from developing better weapons and strategies.
“The Novans have imported many of earth’s societal problems”.
Yes, but his friends call him Will.
"Everything has evolved to kill humans"
This always made me think about the 'Mama Bird' from the movie.
Sure, she could have always thought 'I owe him, he risked his life for my kids'. However animals work based off of instinct instead of reasoning. On top of that he couldn't even protect her children. She owed him nothing.
She also could have put her own safety first if she wanted to have a future as well as another nest of children; by leaving him to freeze while she looked for shelter.
Or if she truly did evolve to be hostile towards humans, why didn't she eat him for energy?
Whether she's just some type of plot armor or if she's meant to symbolize something I'm totally not sure. All I know is that her compassion and sacrifice have left a mark on me these past few years. When I think about her I always ask myself, 'why did she do this?'
They accidentally misspelled "love" as "kill" somewhere down the line.
They probably made all the animals really infatuated with humans via genetic manipulation. The tiger probably just wanted a hug too.
@@nemo-x Lmao I dunno 🤣 I just found it overly convenient that she displayed her gratitude in the form of giving up her life
Pretty sure they were trying to do a thing where the bird is like his sister or something.
A better question is why can't the bird survive a night in the environment it lives in. It's nest wasn't exactly sheltered anymore than the spot she died was. You'd think evolving to hunt something that's not on earth would take a backseat in terms of evolutionary pressure to surviving basic exposure
@@vonfaustien3957 See, it's questions like this that make me love this community. I didn't even think of that 🤔
Those Tuvok clips are basically 360 no-scope headshots.
You deserve a medal for being able to do more than watch the trailer
Honestly, the sad part is that I actually found all this background lore interesting. It’s a damn shame that AE’s first outing turned out to be a dumpster fire.
well Will Smith son/daughter/weirdness is a dumpster fire. add in Shamalongdingong being a dumpster fire.
I am worried to see, that Dr Bright is still allowed to comment on youtube-videos...
And besides this - yes... I agree.
There is a ton of movies that all fall in the same way-to-easy-to-kill horror creature trap.
Every time you have some impenetrable force, that somehow bested mankind, just to get killed off by a rag tag bunch of heroes in the end.
Yes in this case we have the excuse, that the ursa don't have to deal with mankinds formidable ability to not only kill ever single living organism, but glass over the whole surface a few hundred times over...
But still - how did those people forget, how to make something explode behind somehting hard and pointy and propell the second something through a barrel?
For some reason a spacefaring mankind forgets how to use guided missiles, long range guns, drones and mines, and goes back to fight with pointy sticks...
When you said "one of these three things is not the same", I definitely expected you to say the scientist.
Historically the difference between a police state and a theocracy has often just been what the rulers called themselves.
"Dude's need to take a knee and have a serious think about this shit" too funny
Problem with too many modern movies, especially in the scifi space, to worried about big visuals, to ignorant about good scripts.
Now, if this event had taken place early in Novan history, then maybe.
We’ve already unintentionally wiped out plenty of animals on earth. I’m pretty sure they could do the same to some baboons, cats and birds pretty easily if they tried
Just had a thought after the part where he mentions using fear pheremones to lure the Ursa in and take them out with mines; if explosives aren't very effective They could still construct mines that shove spikes up out of the ground using the Cutlass tech. It's not like you'd even have to bury them since they can see.
Damn, I never knew they planned so much for this premise. Even the books existing is a surprise for me.
do some googling. you can get the book detailing the sony leaks for 1.99 on kindle
@@toomanyaccounts There's a simple reason why I never knew about it, I couldn't care since the movie was so trash.
You know After Earth is bad when you have a successful war strategy that’s literally something that humans do on Tinder.
Can you please elaborate what you mean? I am not familiar with anything tinder and cannot imagine what War strategy can be used on a dating platform.
@@gelu_4499 They call their stupid emotional thing in the movie 'ghosting'.
@@brendanw8136 Well now I feel stupid.
Thanks for clearing that up
Your tactical use of Tuvok Clips almost made After Earth watchable. Lol
Having not seen this movie, for obvious reasons, I can safely say this video is great.
i suffered trough it - while the visuals are really fine - the acting is... well shit