Del Toro originally planed adaptation of In the Mountain of Madness. But because Hollywood is dumb, they refused. He basically reused some material he made in form acceptable to idiots. Though I should point out that stupidity of this movie is intentional, as reference to old Super Robo anime. It is most clear when they pull sword from nowhere.
Problem is, it only takes one broken leg to completely ruin a Jaeger. When will our giant death robots get more legs? They also move faster with more legs, so that lumbering movement is less an issue.
"Which isn't surprising since the aliens' psionic hivemind is said to transmit a signal in real time back through the breach to the precursors" They're telepathically livestreaming their war.
UN is mostly useless for real problems Nato is dominated by the US EU is mostly toothless diplomatically, tho economically it is a sustainable bloc(with 2 dominant European power). Good luck for other European power to economically overthrown France and Germany. Also all these organisations r never close to as useless as the UN in the movie, which has the fate of humanity as stake
@@BumboLooks Not really. The EU has helped its members avoid conflict and boost trade while NATO is just a defensive pact that protected it's members from invasion, it has no real drawbacks beyond removing some of a members neutrality by making them a LITTLE less pro-Russian. The UN does suck though.
@@arthas640 All they have done in practice is undermine the sovereignty of the member countries. You don't even need to be a member of any of those organizations to receive the benefits. They just make up rules as they go along. It has given us increased globalism Diversity immigration quotas. The destruction of Ukraine via Russia. The draining of wealthy countries. The continued hatred of white people.
Oh yeah, the precursors definitely deserve an episode. Point one, they have the tech for teleportation portals and customized Kaiju, but they just waited for 65 million years to take our world because they couldn't manage a feat of terraforming that humans performed in about a century by accident.
@@freezeking4659 Yeah, but you gotta admit that is pretty silly. They need this world bad enough that, after they send Kaiju to wipe out the dinosaurs, they kept tabs on it for 65 million years waiting for the atmosphere to become suitable for them. Yet they never thought to send some Kaiju or robots over to dig up coal and set it on fire to fix the atmosphere themselves. And this particular change was done by humans in about a hundred years, without us even meaning to. Had the aliens send something to do it anywhere in the last 65 million years, they could have taken this world without any resistance to speak off.
As fun as that movie was to watch I literally felt shocks of pain in my head when the U.N. doubled down on their plan to build the Wall even after a Kaiju so easily punched through the wall in Sydney and the Jaeger there so easily punched through the Kaiju. It was one of the most stupid moments I have ever seen on screen.
To be fair. That was one of the more accurate things in the movie. Politicians are dumbasses and NEVER admit they made a mistake. They would rather double, triple, and quadruple down until their term is up than admit they were wrong.
@@HouseOfAlastrian I feel like that kind of storyline could've given a reason for why Jaeger's stayed in fashion. Because they were essentially part of the military industrial complex and so all these politicians have incentives to keep Jaegers in the field. Even the PPDC could know about it. Giving them a more three dimensional character, not being completely innocent good guys being held back by stupid rich people.
The only issue I see in this plan is getting close enough to the breach itself because of the fact that the main breach is DEEP underwater so trying to build it now more a challenge due to water pressure, making it wide enough and tough enough to handle the kaijus crawling out of it. Then there are the kaiju themselves which may even start guarding the breach too.
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 Lol that's a like a gigantic dipshit trying to build a sand castle underwater pretty improbable, also pretty sure making tools for the jaegers to use would cost more than the jaegers themselves.
@@connortripp99 See, you bring up the main point I had with all of this. The kaiju didn't amass around the portal. If the plan was really to destroy humanity and they could only bring in a few kaiju at a time, you'd think they would have the first wave guard the the breach. Then keep bringing in kaiju on the timer, until they just overwhelm the entire planet.
@@marcinkrz3140 That had again little to do with the UN. The UN general secretary wanted to station a much larger force of blue helmets there but this was not granted by the security council. The UN is not perfect but it's one of the few major human organizations that actually engages in any real strategic planning.
@@XMysticHerox lie excutive outcomes pmc an fraction of un budget or man power of un out performed un woud have for third but un outlawed prctise and simply let hordes of niggas die even they coud be saved
Thank you! I’ve always loved the movie because it’s dumb, action, sci-if spectacle, but I’ve also HATED the wall idea. How you gonna build a wall around the whole ocean? Also, do the various Pacific islands just get to die?
If they were going to somehow build a wall around the entire ocean, they should have at least mounted some active weaponry on them, like those missiles and railgun turrets and whatnot. Even in real life, walls by themselves are poor defenses. They're much better when paired with other things, like active guard patrols.
Battleships and dreadnoughts using modern 16 inch and higher caliber shells would be more cost effective and more mobile. Throw in plasma cannons, rail guns, lasers, ect. mounted on the ships it would also provide additional firepower.
If they actually build the walls in the water (and if they don't, the Kaiju could just swim around to the Indian or Atlantic ocean), above-water turrets still won't help much, the Kaiju can just smash a hole below the surface.
I just love how apparently building a wall theoretically big enough to stop sky-scraper sized monsters, and long enough to surround the Pacific ocean, was cheaper than the Jaeger program. Like, I get that the Jaeger program was insanely expensive since it featured some of the latest cutting-edge tech on a massive scale, but we are talking about building a heavily reinforced skyscraper-sized wall long enough to circumvent the globe. You could honestly build hundreds, if not thousands, of cheap and disposable Jaegers for that price, and they would have the benefit of actually being able to neutralize the threat, instead of just slowing it down, but nope. Honestly it would have been far more plausible if the Jaeger program was dropped for something like a bioweapon deployment system, or orbital platform, or some other "wonder weapon" that can be equipped on regular military vehicles. Then suddenly a counter is developed by the aliens designing the monsters, and now the Jaegers are needed again until another solution can be developed. This is basically how arms races in wars work, you adapt, the enemy adapts, then you adapt again. This would be 100% plausible in-universe, and would get them the exact same key plot points of "Jaeger program not needed, then it is." But instead of actually developing new tactics and technology, they decide to toss their latest and greatest stuff away and use tactics from literally thousands of years ago, the failed concept of unguarded frontier walls, but on a ludicrous scale.
They were running low on rare minerals needed to build jaegers, I believe. Basically, looking at three factors to abandon the jaeger program: lack of resources, lack of money, and it was failing more and more.
@@Axterix13 yea I mean the jaegers are like 200+ feet tall the world was probably quite done with the jaegers and with the public rally behind the wall since it’s “unbreakable” then comes drones which could’ve been affective since you aren’t loosing any lives when the jaegers fall.
@@Axterix13 I mean, it's not like the jagers evaporate when they're disabled. They're capable of airlifting these things so why aren't they reprocessing jager wrecks if they're running low on elements needed for the jagers?
Jaegers are nuclear powered, it is very expensive to mine and refine nuclear material. a wall is much cheaper. and no, the other solutions are not better, the jaegers are mobile, the cannons on the russian jaeger are bigger than any ship, the plasma cannon is powered by a nuclear reactor, and given their size a sword or blade makes a much better use of energy on a jaeger than on any other vehicle or weapon.
I have a suggestion for a new set of videos: James Bond villains too stupid to win. With 26 films, I'm pretty sure there's at least a handful of them that you could talk about M.Z.
@@aliastheabnormal It would but it could be its own subsection due it talking about villains from one movie franchise rather than multiple different ones.
You need to do a part two for the UN and PPDC using Pacific Rim: Uprising and Pacific Rim: The Black because one of the dumbest things in PR: The Black is that after the kaiju overrun the center of Australia the UN and PPDC decide that the smartest plan is to completely abandon everyone stuck there as well as literal tons of valuable equipment and de-orbit all the satellites monitoring central Australia...
In some instances leaving the populace to die might be effective especially if the resources spent on keeping them alive could be better allocated to fighting the larger threat. Making it a total black zone however is stupid
What I was most impressed by in the movie was the load capacity of those helicopters they use to deploy the mechs. I mean, just half a dozen of them manage to lift and reliably transport a gigantic lump of metal that's so big, it can use huge cargo ships as clubs.
No matter how ridiculous this movie was, I loved it. And Elba's speech about ending the apocalypse was considered the Independence Day Speech reborn. Gave me the same kind of hopeful energy I.D. did
I love the sixty or seventy percent of this movie that is a fun giant robot versus giant monsters movie. I hate the rest of it that is the director's political and social potshots at people he doesn't like, which drag down the movie by being so insipid that you can't defend this movie
@@currentlyaliveanddead6733 the defense wall and insipid U.N. decision to shut down the Jaeger program for the obviously never going to work wall that breaks in a few hours. Now, granted, United Nonces, er, Nations deserves every bit of mockery they get. But the easily beaten by aliens wall is a potshot at people who want border security, and really drags the movie down.
@@hariman7727 Never considered that, probably never will as most people(in the internet or IRL) I know never once mentioned that or thought about that. I never heard anyone say that it was a political thing.
Really goes to show how incompetent they are on gathering data/salvaging remains when the equally fictional *XCOM Project* takes whatever alien bodies they can as long as your troops don’t leave them mangled and unrecognizable, which provides so many advantages including, armor, raw data on their strengths and weaknesses, new technology to counter their abilities, etc.
Yeah, this was a big problem I always had with the movie. I was never able to buy the governments of the world just not salvaging and studying the remains of the kaiju.
It gets even better when you remembee that once you get the Plasma Technology Tech, XCOM EU would literally straight use the weapons they grab from the aliens from their uncouncious bodies. Even better in Xenonauts where your soldier can literally grab the weapons of dead Aliens mid fight to use them in combat, so is a viable option to have your soldiers just toss away their wapons to grab alien weapons. In both XCOM and Xenonoauts both organizations would even go as far as to avoid using WMD on Aliens simply because otherwise they wouod not be able to get their hands on sweet alien tech, energy sources and alloys, and this ends up proving to be the call that gets Humanity the big win in the end, stealing the aliens streghts and advantages and using them again the Xenos.
@@ntfoperative9432 advent uses mag weapons to seem more familiar to humanity and/or cut down on costs. Even the lowest tier sectoids from the very first mission of XCOM EU/EW have plasma weaponry, the aliens absolutely have plasma weaponry, but a small scale resistance/invasion force can warrant substantially higher per-unit costs than an entire tyranical world-government.
I like how initially the UN is declared stupid for making giant robots to fight the alien monsters. Then they're declared stupid for deciding they don't want to use giant robots to fight the alien monsters anymore.
Even more so considering that the Giant Robots eneded up being the most effective weapons agaisnt the giant mosnters and they decide to abandon them in favor of ... A fucking road bump
I think he meant more like mechs are a shit idea (why not just mount a plasma canon 5 times the size on a high platform and just onehsot kaijus?) but they were the only effective weapon and the un abandoned them
@@mariahuber1438 Yeah that was the point, Mechs are cools but realistically they are not as effective as they, but in this universe they not only manage to create giant robots, but they made an actually capable an effevtive weapon agaisnt the Kaijus ... And then they abandoned them in favor of a road bump, well a wall, but that thing may as well be a road bump considefing how useless it was. They had something that worked, they took the most ineficient option they have and made it actually work, and THEN then they decided to just ... Abandon it in favor of an "alternative" that just ... DOESN'T EVEN WORK AS AN OBSTACLE.
@@mariahuber1438 because any emplaced defensive structure is a tactical target rather than a tactical unit. Railroads are substantially cheaper to use and operate than a convoy of cargo trucks, but they're also substantially easier to take offline because your enemy can just bomb the railroad. With ample evidence that Kaiju are able to plan, adapt, and strategize, any emplaced structure is just asking to be destroyed. We have animals alive today on earth that use projectile weaponry, lizards that use pressurized jets of blood from their eyes, ants that shoot acid, spiders that eject hairs from their backs like bio-mortars, pistol shrimp, etc. so it's not really all that large of a leap to say that if humanity developed fixed emplacements and relied on them heavily Kaijus would just outplay them easily. (sort of like they already tried to do by creating a Kaiju that could emit EMPs.) The fact that Jaegers are deployable means that you can have a greater diversity of technologies with a somewhat managable cost. (certain groups of people love to mock the economy, "how dare you?!" and all, but it's not just made up numbers. Those numbers represent actual production and consumption, if governments start forgetting that - as they unfortunately already are - then people will eventually just stop using their currency entirely because everyone knows the government will just print infinitely more. Printing money means allowing consumption without corresponding production, which is utterly unsustainable) If you used emplaced weaponry however then you need to have a wide diversity of defenses at *_every_* possible location, whereas if you used something deployable like Jaegers then you only need to create a diverse selection of Jaegers, and then wherever threats come about you can deploy them. The nuclear landmind strategy is certainly much stronger superficially, though there are still lots of caveats here since any time one of them went off the others would either go off or be destroyed as well, so the Kaiju could just bait them out by setting off one while hiding in the portal, then flood through. Speaking of flood, a heavy reliance on hard-hitting one-shot weaponry would very likely just lead to them either producing swarms of micro-kaiju or creating a kaiju that can produce it's own swarms. Why they *_didn't_* do this with jaegers is unclear, (it's possible they were trying to with giving at least one of them reproductive capabilities) but eitherway it'd be an easy way to counter the "just use mounted railguns on walls" or "just use missiles" approach. Basically though, the big issue with any emplaced weaponry is that you can't move it to where it's needed when it's needed, whereas you can with something like a Jaeger. So in order to defend against a wide variety of unpredictable modes of attack with emplaced defenses you need to defend against every possible attack at every possible location, whereas with deployable defenses you only need to prepare for a wide variety of possible attacks and can cover the gaps with more careful/clever deployments. (that's not to say the complete absence of emplaced weaponry would be acceptable either mind you, major coastal cities absolutely should have railgun towers or something, hell even something like giant rail-accelerated supersonic kinetic-impact drones or something mounted on mountain tops for assisting Jaegers would be a really solid concept. My point is just that *_relying_* on emplaced weaponry isn't smart, since it's easy to circumvent emplaced defenses due to their immobility)
Not gonna lie, "We either sit and wait or we take these flare guns and do something _really_ stupid!" was an awesome line with an amazing delivery. Loved this movie, imperfections and all.
Heck, just giving the Jaegers effective melee weaponry would give them a sizable advantage. Gypsy Danger’s sword sawed one pretty much in half, so why not take it a step further and just give them a big axe or warhammer? Kaiju claws suddenly become rather trivial when you can simply stave in their skulls or bisect them from 50 feet away.
And if that works, just give them something that gives them even more reach. Like a big spear, but one that you shoot out of a tube with some form of propellant or other acceleration system, so you can kill them from a mile away or more.
It's was a fun movie and the cast was phenomenal! Charlie Hunnam, Charlie Day, Idris Elba, Max Martini, Ron Perlman, Clifton Collins Jr, & Burn Gorman really made it memorable for me!
Atomic Robo already kind of made this video in the form of the volume "Atomic Robo and the Ring of Fire." In that book they have kaiju called "biomega" that they try to fight off with giant robots, but the robots do little more than stall them. What actually saves the day is an abandoned Nazi WMD, an orbital platform that drops giant tungsten rods like kinetic bombs, each one packing the raw energy of a tactical nuke without any of that messy radiation.
@@Yggdrasil42there’s about a thousand other “ifs” involved with the Rod From God concept. And that’s assuming you want to foot a bill even larger than the Jaeger Program. Even then, you get about the same yield as a single MOAB bomb.
Hey, have you ever considered doing a video on a sci-fi civilization/villain that you see as actually smart enough to really exist/win? I want to hear about the othdr side of the coin. Also, I think it'll be cool if you did a video about Tuvok. I don't know much about Star Trek but he's obviously a character you like.
Recommendation: "Move further inland to avoid the giant kaiju." Aussies: "Have you seen what's further inland, mate? We'll take our chances with the kaiju!" 🤣
Holy! Was literally just going back rewatching your old vids to pass the time waiting for another upload.... I happened to refresh my page and boom! This a good day, gonna grab drink, get comfy and enjoy this one lol
Giant mechs are cool but couldn't gaint bases and vehicles or many smaller ones overwhelm the creatures and in cases take less casualties per battle. Especially if you try to eventually guard the main area they keep coming from. Just find the portal and sink a nuke with maybe a timer into it
They are a bit too busy helping creating new systems of control, creating newer narratives, distractions, and cultural lawlessness and wickedness amongst the populations for their one world government to form like some mystery Babylon final world empire antichrist bullcrap the Bible predicted would happen in the books Revelations, 2nd Esdras, and others.
@@Flaris And it would be 100% out of spite toward the country that suggested it. Never underestimate the human ability to let petty rivalry sabotage actual problem solving.
I had a mech RPG once, and it took me ten minutes to work out that I could build a giant aircraft that could one shot any mech at a fraction of the cost.
You have to remember that these creatures are designed, not evolved. Either that's an intentional design feature (Explaining why the Kaiju are immune to normal weaponry) or something the Precursors had designed around.
Being engineered organisms that can do thing like produce massive EMPs there is probably any number of ways they could get around the issue of silicon turning into a solid when it oxidizes
@@richardarriaga6271 -- the Kaiju's primary defense is its sheer mass. To a creature weighing 6,000 tons only our largest conventional explosive and chemical weapons would give them more than a mild rash. And all our existing ballistics weapons platforms are basically just bricks with pistols taped to them. A really big harpoon is ptobably the. best option.
A submarine dropping off numerous mines above the breach seems like an easy idea. Maybe a few nuclear torpedos Avengers style through the breach any time it opens.
At first, I thought you were talking about the REAL United Nations in NYC, New York. That's an organization that sounds AWESOME in theory but is so corrupt and inept that in practice is often a wretched mess.
A really interesting Pacific Rim offshoot movie could be a story about reckless Jaeger pilots raring to do something stupid and risky, completely deadpan, but being bogged down by Kafkaesque Bureaucracy in real time and the same thing happening on the other side of The Breach.
I didn't go to see this movie for complex, nuanced plots and well written characters. I went specifically to satisfy the parts of my stupid caveman brain that wanted to see a Gundam fight Godzilla and by God I was not disappointed in the slightest.
@@scottdoesntmatter4409 This is a video making fun of a government in a movie about giant robots kicking massive alien ass. Did you expect a deep scientific analysis?
I feel like the rods from heaven would be a good weapon that wouldn't bankrupt every country. The kinetic power of a tactical nuke with none of the fallout.
traditionally nukes aren't used on highly mobile targets so I feel like the restriction of being satellite based wouldn't impact their function that much.@@GeorgeMonet
That isnt even necessary. Realistically all we would have to do is put the proper guidance systems on bunker buster bombs that we've had since ww2 (an extremely simple fix given current guided munition technology) and just watch them splatter into a kilometer wide blue stain on the pavement. Or even start making more huge ww2 cannons and battleships. All of this technology already currently exists. Of course, the reetarts in hollywood have no idea about any of this
Good luck making a biological weapon specialized for an alien creature with a completely different genome than anything on earth even ignoring that you'll need to inject a massive dosage for it to work not to mention that they originate from a dimension where pollution is oxygen to them soo most forms of chemical, toxic weapons and radiation are useless against them. and let's not forget that they literally build the kaijus as if they were a car soo even assuming that they somehow can what stops the precursors from just making kaijus from different genomes? Or even just modify them to be immune to this biological agent? We've seen kaijus capable of creating EMP pulses and even absorb kinetic energy make their immune system better should be child's play to them
Not sure if you brought it up yet but the Kaiju are engineered, so they eventually adapted to fight against the weapons the Jaegers had. It be a constant arms race. I agree definitely fight then smarter but throw a lot of that support at figuring out how to close the breach.
If they can't adapt to the "big robot with sword" it will can't adopt vs BIG ANTY ARMOUR MISSEL something like antybunker missel so it will hit a monster go 5m deep into it and then explode. OR nuke you can adopt to 100.000C+ . Becouse everything will just evaporate OFC in move like this all this airplane flight at 100m Even short-range rocket have 20 + km of range so you fly 5 km above and just shoot this monster from safe distance . EZ
Honestly, they could have made a ton of plasma cannons at the base of the rift. Just a couple of bases and tons of ammo. As soon as the kaiju appeared, they would be immediately spawn killed. Or just Yaegers in bases nearby, so they can be there to jump the single file monster at a time. Otherwise, it really was just a fun dumb-smart movie to get to see giant robots and monsters to fight.
There are literally 1000 different ways we actually, in real life could deal with these things let alone if we had the technology level to make jaegers. It just wouldn't make for a good movie, mostly
I know these must be a huge amount of work to make, and I am always happy to see one show up. The TH-cam algorithm doesn't generally support long form content creators, but I do. So thank you.
Your video is always welcome MZ and this was a good one and not to mention that the Jaegers wouldn't be able to build or operate due to their sheer size and their way of moving would collapse the whole Jaeger massive build.
If Gypsy, Striker, and Chero were built in real life they *could* stand and walk around without tearing themselves apart. They probably couldn't throw punches though.
@@Grizabeebles My point still stands that they would be useless in combat. I like the first Pacific Rim. But that doesn't mean that do not call out the mistakes and things that make no sense.
@@Grizabeebles No just because I like something doesn't mean that I will not call out things that make no sense and there have been scientists who are well known in their field who have called this out and showed models of what would happen if a Jaeger was built and most of them would collapse due to the weight alone(I'm not just talking out of my ass) and that is why it is a fictional world and that is why we like it for reality is boring. I'm not moving any goalpost for I'm just looking at it from a realistic and writer's point of view just any other critic worth their salt. That is all and I would like to end this chat with a good bye and a hope to see you never.
Gonna point out... they have a sword that can easily cut thru the monsters...... and they know exactly where they come out of. Make a razor wire net of those swords and put that over the top of the portal so when they monsters come thru they are turned into french fries.....
Pacific Rim wasn't meant to make sense. It was a love letter to those of who grew up enjoying this genre. It was lovely watching in the theater, a taste of childhood. As the other love letter theme song once said: chicks dig giant robots. But yes, your points are right.
man i love this YT series. Thanks! Also we know there is a major lack of Asian actors in Hollywood but the fact whats her name wasn't fluent in English as well as her native Japanese was hilarious lol.
Yep, tons of anti Kaijo weapons on the mechs but instead of scaling that down to conventional weapon platforms, lets build a wall and not even install Jaeger weapons on it.
I still love the first movie, but I don't think it'll ever stop coming off as utterly absurd that they actually thought a wall - not even a wall extensively armed with anti-kaiju armaments, just really big wall - would be enough to stop this insanely advanced extra-dimensional alien species that constantly adapts to face humanity's technology from just...learning to climb. Something that human children regularly do just for fun, and that countless animals that AREN'T unnaturally quick to adapt are often able to figure out pretty easily. Even if that thing was made with a nigh-indestructible material, there are so many ways to just render it completely useless without having to actually break through it.
Honestly Evangelion did kinda resolve the issue with requiring large robots - namely because AT fields where tied to individual living creatures, thus traditional conventional weaponry was ineffective. I know later the lore on this became a bit convoluted, but it ensured that Mechs where quite literally THE solution to the Angel threat.
Just put the plasma guns and missiles on the wall, then put the Jaegers behind it as a backup. The Rim then becomes like Helm's Deep but everyone involved is 100m tall
"We need to use blunt force because the blood is toxic" Bruh build the wall around the portal to contain the blood and then just hack and slash to victory
I wonder if the government thought of downscaling the mechs to make them faster and get more scientists in to expand the weapons even further so it wouldn't be too expensive.
With the way Jaeger drift works, does that mean Aussie kid drifting with his father let him know well, how his mother and father met? Also, idk how he was compatible seeing how as he seemed quite unstable. I sort of picture Jaeger drivers being put through a standard similar to astronauts.
We have guided bunker-buster bombs that can penetrate hundreds of feet of steel and concrete (which dumps more energy into the target than even the biggest robot fist and that's before the explosive payload is factored in), and can be dropped from high altitudes without any loss of accuracy, but this movie claims only nukes and giant robot fists can kill the giant monsters. I have doubts.
A lot of fiction does that. Like how some series present the idea of a completely non-magical flesh and blood horror creature that is completely immune to firearms in general no matter the general firepower or caliber of the firearm and munitions.
It's funny how in the same video he bashes the tactic of making giant robots which the UN kept using because it worked instead creating new weapons when in the same video he literally mentioned that the Kaijus could learn and adapt to whatever their enemies threw at them.
the UN has never prevented a single war or atrocity. not once, not one time. also get a load of the countries they have on the "human rights" council. its ironies all the way down.
No offense to Godzilla fans (and seriously, the MonsterVerse is AWESOME, don't get me wrong), but to me, Pacific Rim is the best giant monster movie ever 😊
Fallout isn't even a real big problem. Nuclear devices today are very efficient. Quite often whether or not it produces an explosion or fallout is a design choice.
There is always some fallout but they are much better now. Even the early ones weren't nearly as bad as some people think look at how fast people could rebuild Hiroshima they didnt have to wait hundreds of years like some people think. They US tested hundreds on it's own soil and the Pacific ocean
@@johno1544 That is a reasonable and balanced perspective. The question is what's the actual amount and impact. Humans today living in civilisation live in a hyper clean ultra sanitised environment with an excessively obsessive sense of hygiene that's quite often to the point of irrationality. There is a sense of things being lethal that really aren't all that harmful. There's always some fallout but the reality is the vast majority of people can live a perfectly normal life at low levels of fallout. Indeed, in Japan where somewhat crude prototype devices were used the fallout was limited and while a few people might try to make it out to be a big deal the harsh truth is that a few flipper babies and the occasional earlier death has a negligible impact on human survival and quality of life. The damage done by the explosion was far worse and the local human population fully recovered even from that. In human history in the last hundred years over two thousand nuclear warheads have been detonated with over five hundred above ground. The bigger issue with a nuclear defence will be the potential for accidents or collateral if the target is allowed to reach certain areas. The biggest potential for devastating fallout would be if the enemy reaches and attacks nuclear storage or a nuclear powerplant. Most of the world is somewhat empty. If all the nuclear powers launched all of their arsenals at completely random coordinates very little damage would be done. People forget that nukes are not only so destructive because of their yields and blast radiuses but because we also make it easy concentrating everything into single targets like cities. A proper nuclear defence policy of a nuclear firewall would take out most of the enemy before they got within even a hundred miles of human infrastructure or population centres.
@@FirstLast-rb5zj What about all the dust that'd be kicked up into the atmosphere by that many explosions? Wouldn't that have a remarkable impact on the state of the Earth or would the dust settle far too early to have that kind of effect?
A list of new scifi settings to critique: Cyberpunk Franchise/2077 Psycho-pass Koushun Takami's Battle Royale (novel/manga lore included) Earth Federation (Universal Century Gundam) Wolfenstein: The New Order Covenant (Halo) Brittanian Empire (Code Geass) And of course the Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
I always marvelled at how stupid they were to make thousands of miles of massive walls rather than finding the breach and using a third that amount to turn the whole canyon the breach is in into concrete. They could even use some of the metal used in the jaegers to laminate the surface facing the kaiju to ensure they don't even get a foothold. Or if it tracks on Stargate logic, placing it only a few micrometers from the event horizon would prevent them from re-integrating on our side; making the solution an incredibly cheap fix
Imagine if they figured our a way to use the reactor tech and the plasma weapons on aircraft. A airframe that like a modern nuclear submarine does not need to be fueled and that has powerful plasma weapons that can injure the kaiju. The only limiting factor would be pilot crew rest and that could be motivated by having the airframe lands briefe and our a fresh pilot in.
Giant mechs are awesome... but usually don't make sense. Like Battletech... for all the resources you pour into one mech.. you could probably built a dozen or so tanks ... each with the same main weapon. Unless it's something like Evangelion, where the mechs seem to be the most effective way to fight the Angels. Or Gundam and Robotech, where they fly and can maneuver in ways jets can't. But ... how much fun would Pacific Rim be without the mechs?
Wasn't it that in Battletech, the Star Cores or whatever the reactors are called are really hard to build and repair, so instead of wasting them on tiny tanks, they try and get more bang for their buck with mechs? And actually in the universe itself you do have lots of little tanks that can easily swarm and destroy mechs with missile barrages or mounted plasma cannons...
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If making giant mech suits to fight giant monster is stupid, I don't want to be smart.
Del Toro originally planed adaptation of In the Mountain of Madness. But because Hollywood is dumb, they refused. He basically reused some material he made in form acceptable to idiots. Though I should point out that stupidity of this movie is intentional, as reference to old Super Robo anime. It is most clear when they pull sword from nowhere.
He said transformers was anime inspired, don't trust a word this mad man says
... do you want to be alive?
@@Iianator More accurately, he said Michael Bay's transformers was...
@@BrookeK92 giant mech robots we can pilot. Think about what you say
Making giant mech suits to fight monsters may not be the smartest choice, but it is the most awesome choice.
@quetzalpacheco I feel like you should found a religion or at least a cult around your insight. I'm on board.
"Giant robots beating on monsters" was the sole reason I went to see this movie. I was not disappointed.
Problem is, it only takes one broken leg to completely ruin a Jaeger. When will our giant death robots get more legs? They also move faster with more legs, so that lumbering movement is less an issue.
@@dansmith1661 Because a giant robot spider wouldn't be as cool as a giant robot boxer.
Also, a human mind isn't equipped to operate multiple legs.
@@StevieB8363 aint there 2 humans per robot?
Thats 4 legs minimum.
"Which isn't surprising since the aliens' psionic hivemind is said to transmit a signal in real time back through the breach to the precursors"
They're telepathically livestreaming their war.
POGGERS
"If I get 200 likes on this video, I'll be sure to follow up and destroy the next city!"
kaiju Vtubers tho
Not enough teenagers for that.
@Marshal Marrs facts😂😂😂
How the UN managed to avoid being overthrown by the population and/or military is the biggest mystery in the movie.
unseen horrors behind the scenes, they do NOT look like they leaned toward egalitarianism
You can say the exact same thing about todays EU, UN, NATO.
UN is mostly useless for real problems
Nato is dominated by the US
EU is mostly toothless diplomatically, tho economically it is a sustainable bloc(with 2 dominant European power). Good luck for other European power to economically overthrown France and Germany.
Also all these organisations r never close to as useless as the UN in the movie, which has the fate of humanity as stake
@@BumboLooks Not really. The EU has helped its members avoid conflict and boost trade while NATO is just a defensive pact that protected it's members from invasion, it has no real drawbacks beyond removing some of a members neutrality by making them a LITTLE less pro-Russian. The UN does suck though.
@@arthas640 All they have done in practice is undermine the sovereignty of the member countries.
You don't even need to be a member of any of those organizations to receive the benefits. They just make up rules as they go along.
It has given us increased globalism
Diversity immigration quotas.
The destruction of Ukraine via Russia.
The draining of wealthy countries.
The continued hatred of white people.
Oh yeah, the precursors definitely deserve an episode. Point one, they have the tech for teleportation portals and customized Kaiju, but they just waited for 65 million years to take our world because they couldn't manage a feat of terraforming that humans performed in about a century by accident.
It's actually because of our atmosphere it was not good for them but then we cane along and made it batter for them
@@freezeking4659 Yeah, but you gotta admit that is pretty silly. They need this world bad enough that, after they send Kaiju to wipe out the dinosaurs, they kept tabs on it for 65 million years waiting for the atmosphere to become suitable for them. Yet they never thought to send some Kaiju or robots over to dig up coal and set it on fire to fix the atmosphere themselves. And this particular change was done by humans in about a hundred years, without us even meaning to. Had the aliens send something to do it anywhere in the last 65 million years, they could have taken this world without any resistance to speak off.
They could make a bunch of Kaijus that release large amounts of CO2.
@@freezeking4659yes, that’s what they meant by terraforming on accident
@@nobleman9393 technically they already do that as kaiju blood is extremely polluting
As fun as that movie was to watch I literally felt shocks of pain in my head when the U.N. doubled down on their plan to build the Wall even after a Kaiju so easily punched through the wall in Sydney and the Jaeger there so easily punched through the Kaiju.
It was one of the most stupid moments I have ever seen on screen.
You expected politicians to admit they were wrong about something?
@@GeneralSecura There certainly times in which politicians are their own worst enemy.
And yet still smarter than 90% of the things our "leaders" really do
To be fair. That was one of the more accurate things in the movie. Politicians are dumbasses and NEVER admit they made a mistake. They would rather double, triple, and quadruple down until their term is up than admit they were wrong.
@@HouseOfAlastrian I feel like that kind of storyline could've given a reason for why Jaeger's stayed in fashion. Because they were essentially part of the military industrial complex and so all these politicians have incentives to keep Jaegers in the field. Even the PPDC could know about it. Giving them a more three dimensional character, not being completely innocent good guys being held back by stupid rich people.
Gotta give the actor who played Senator Taylor props: He absolutely nailed that smug, petty, brainless trust-fund-baby demeanor. Absolutely nailed it.
It's how Biden's grandchildren "elected" to highest positions would look like.
Yeah, spawn camping the portal with nuclear mines seemed the most obvious solution to me too.
You need to stop playing video games and learn how to talk like a human being sir.
Agreed
The aliens would just find some way to adapt to it. Sure, it would work a few times, but it'd only be temporary.
@@mechanomics2649
My thoughts exactly! We have all these nuclear depth-charges and torpedos left over from last century, we’d finally be able to put them to good use!
Given the effectiveness of swords, Cinimasins suggested a kaiju meat grinder built around the breach.
The only issue I see in this plan is getting close enough to the breach itself because of the fact that the main breach is DEEP underwater so trying to build it now more a challenge due to water pressure, making it wide enough and tough enough to handle the kaijus crawling out of it. Then there are the kaiju themselves which may even start guarding the breach too.
@@connortripp99 use Jaegars to build it lol
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 Lol that's a like a gigantic dipshit trying to build a sand castle underwater pretty improbable, also pretty sure making tools for the jaegers to use would cost more than the jaegers themselves.
@@connortripp99 See, you bring up the main point I had with all of this. The kaiju didn't amass around the portal. If the plan was really to destroy humanity and they could only bring in a few kaiju at a time, you'd think they would have the first wave guard the the breach. Then keep bringing in kaiju on the timer, until they just overwhelm the entire planet.
@@williamedwards4151 high risk high reward, because if you get discovered you are gonna get spawn camped by literal nukes.
"The UN suffers from a near total lack of strategic planning"
This one is on point with the real UN.
is it? I feel the UN plans quite well. The issue is almost none of the member states give a shit.
@@XMysticHeroxall the people massacred in Srebrenica would probably beg to differ
if the were alive that is
@@marcinkrz3140 That had again little to do with the UN. The UN general secretary wanted to station a much larger force of blue helmets there but this was not granted by the security council.
The UN is not perfect but it's one of the few major human organizations that actually engages in any real strategic planning.
You mean "western politicians".
I'm sure when UN will be dominated by BRICS countries it will work much better.
@@XMysticHerox lie excutive outcomes pmc an fraction of un budget or man power of un out performed un woud have for third but un outlawed prctise and simply let hordes of niggas die even they coud be saved
Thank you! I’ve always loved the movie because it’s dumb, action, sci-if spectacle, but I’ve also HATED the wall idea. How you gonna build a wall around the whole ocean? Also, do the various Pacific islands just get to die?
If they were going to somehow build a wall around the entire ocean, they should have at least mounted some active weaponry on them, like those missiles and railgun turrets and whatnot. Even in real life, walls by themselves are poor defenses. They're much better when paired with other things, like active guard patrols.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 walls without defenders are at best an annoyance
Battleships and dreadnoughts using modern 16 inch and higher caliber shells would be more cost effective and more mobile. Throw in plasma cannons, rail guns, lasers, ect. mounted on the ships it would also provide additional firepower.
Japan has Eva 00, 01 and 02.
If they actually build the walls in the water (and if they don't, the Kaiju could just swim around to the Indian or Atlantic ocean), above-water turrets still won't help much, the Kaiju can just smash a hole below the surface.
I just love how apparently building a wall theoretically big enough to stop sky-scraper sized monsters, and long enough to surround the Pacific ocean, was cheaper than the Jaeger program. Like, I get that the Jaeger program was insanely expensive since it featured some of the latest cutting-edge tech on a massive scale, but we are talking about building a heavily reinforced skyscraper-sized wall long enough to circumvent the globe. You could honestly build hundreds, if not thousands, of cheap and disposable Jaegers for that price, and they would have the benefit of actually being able to neutralize the threat, instead of just slowing it down, but nope.
Honestly it would have been far more plausible if the Jaeger program was dropped for something like a bioweapon deployment system, or orbital platform, or some other "wonder weapon" that can be equipped on regular military vehicles. Then suddenly a counter is developed by the aliens designing the monsters, and now the Jaegers are needed again until another solution can be developed. This is basically how arms races in wars work, you adapt, the enemy adapts, then you adapt again. This would be 100% plausible in-universe, and would get them the exact same key plot points of "Jaeger program not needed, then it is." But instead of actually developing new tactics and technology, they decide to toss their latest and greatest stuff away and use tactics from literally thousands of years ago, the failed concept of unguarded frontier walls, but on a ludicrous scale.
They were running low on rare minerals needed to build jaegers, I believe. Basically, looking at three factors to abandon the jaeger program: lack of resources, lack of money, and it was failing more and more.
@@Axterix13 yea I mean the jaegers are like 200+ feet tall the world was probably quite done with the jaegers and with the public rally behind the wall since it’s “unbreakable” then comes drones which could’ve been affective since you aren’t loosing any lives when the jaegers fall.
I feel like a series of big coastal railguns would have been a more than adequate solution.
@@Axterix13 I mean, it's not like the jagers evaporate when they're disabled. They're capable of airlifting these things so why aren't they reprocessing jager wrecks if they're running low on elements needed for the jagers?
Jaegers are nuclear powered, it is very expensive to mine and refine nuclear material. a wall is much cheaper.
and no, the other solutions are not better, the jaegers are mobile, the cannons on the russian jaeger are bigger than any ship, the plasma cannon is powered by a nuclear reactor, and given their size a sword or blade makes a much better use of energy on a jaeger than on any other vehicle or weapon.
I have a suggestion for a new set of videos: James Bond villains too stupid to win. With 26 films, I'm pretty sure there's at least a handful of them that you could talk about M.Z.
I think that would fall under Villains too stupid to win.
@@aliastheabnormal It would but it could be its own subsection due it talking about villains from one movie franchise rather than multiple different ones.
@@DarkLordDiablos It wouldn't because early Too stupid to win videos covered multiple factions. It would just be a large or multi part video.
@@aliastheabnormal True but I was just offering a solution to how it could be done.
honestly, at least 26!
I love Pacific Rim so much. It’s like someone saw episode 9 of Evangelion, got inspired to make a movie, then refused to take the premise seriously
"Chronicle" is a good bootleg of "AKIRA", however! ];) -
What an ignorant comment
Heavy rail guns, tower mounted plasma cannon, super heavy penetrators with sub critical mass warheads.
Hell just bunker buster bombs that we developed during ww2 would put these things down, realistically
You need to do a part two for the UN and PPDC using Pacific Rim: Uprising and Pacific Rim: The Black because one of the dumbest things in PR: The Black is that after the kaiju overrun the center of Australia the UN and PPDC decide that the smartest plan is to completely abandon everyone stuck there as well as literal tons of valuable equipment and de-orbit all the satellites monitoring central Australia...
You can’t point that out, the plot holes demand you to be silent
The smartest thing about pr2 is using the mech as a bomb, why haven't they done that before, shoot metal rods from the sky.
@@Mojomanultra same thing as I said before, for the plot and drama.
Did they colony drop the satellites onto Australia? Sieg Zeon!
In some instances leaving the populace to die might be effective especially if the resources spent on keeping them alive could be better allocated to fighting the larger threat.
Making it a total black zone however is stupid
"Racking up sh*tloads of debt, and defaulting on your loans, still sounds a hell of a lot better than being dead."
Humans: 👁👄👁
You can't actually go bankrupt when you have the whole economy. You just run out of resources.
Because in the end. There will be no one to pay because everyone is dead. Including who you owe debts to. 🤔
The economy would have been a command economy anyways. There are no debts in a command economy.
At least we'd all be in debt together. I'd rather that than being crushed by a giant monster.
@@GeorgeMonet yeah just forced labour and prison camps
What I was most impressed by in the movie was the load capacity of those helicopters they use to deploy the mechs. I mean, just half a dozen of them manage to lift and reliably transport a gigantic lump of metal that's so big, it can use huge cargo ships as clubs.
Yeah that made no sense lol
No matter how ridiculous this movie was, I loved it. And Elba's speech about ending the apocalypse was considered the Independence Day Speech reborn. Gave me the same kind of hopeful energy I.D. did
Dead ass facts. "We are canceling the apocalypse" gets me hyped af every time I hear it.
I love the sixty or seventy percent of this movie that is a fun giant robot versus giant monsters movie.
I hate the rest of it that is the director's political and social potshots at people he doesn't like, which drag down the movie by being so insipid that you can't defend this movie
@@hariman7727 I must have missed the 30 to 40% of politics then. I never saw any politics in it.
@@currentlyaliveanddead6733 the defense wall and insipid U.N. decision to shut down the Jaeger program for the obviously never going to work wall that breaks in a few hours.
Now, granted, United Nonces, er, Nations deserves every bit of mockery they get.
But the easily beaten by aliens wall is a potshot at people who want border security, and really drags the movie down.
@@hariman7727 Never considered that, probably never will as most people(in the internet or IRL) I know never once mentioned that or thought about that. I never heard anyone say that it was a political thing.
Really goes to show how incompetent they are on gathering data/salvaging remains when the equally fictional *XCOM Project* takes whatever alien bodies they can as long as your troops don’t leave them mangled and unrecognizable, which provides so many advantages including, armor, raw data on their strengths and weaknesses, new technology to counter their abilities, etc.
Hell, in the game you literally surpass the alien’s because of this. You can get laser weapons while the Advent is still using mag weapons
Yeah, this was a big problem I always had with the movie. I was never able to buy the governments of the world just not salvaging and studying the remains of the kaiju.
It gets even better when you remembee that once you get the Plasma Technology Tech, XCOM EU would literally straight use the weapons they grab from the aliens from their uncouncious bodies.
Even better in Xenonauts where your soldier can literally grab the weapons of dead Aliens mid fight to use them in combat, so is a viable option to have your soldiers just toss away their wapons to grab alien weapons.
In both XCOM and Xenonoauts both organizations would even go as far as to avoid using WMD on Aliens simply because otherwise they wouod not be able to get their hands on sweet alien tech, energy sources and alloys, and this ends up proving to be the call that gets Humanity the big win in the end, stealing the aliens streghts and advantages and using them again the Xenos.
@@ntfoperative9432 advent uses mag weapons to seem more familiar to humanity and/or cut down on costs. Even the lowest tier sectoids from the very first mission of XCOM EU/EW have plasma weaponry, the aliens absolutely have plasma weaponry, but a small scale resistance/invasion force can warrant substantially higher per-unit costs than an entire tyranical world-government.
I like how initially the UN is declared stupid for making giant robots to fight the alien monsters. Then they're declared stupid for deciding they don't want to use giant robots to fight the alien monsters anymore.
Even more so considering that the Giant Robots eneded up being the most effective weapons agaisnt the giant mosnters and they decide to abandon them in favor of ... A fucking road bump
I think he meant more like mechs are a shit idea (why not just mount a plasma canon 5 times the size on a high platform and just onehsot kaijus?) but they were the only effective weapon and the un abandoned them
@@mariahuber1438 Yeah that was the point, Mechs are cools but realistically they are not as effective as they, but in this universe they not only manage to create giant robots, but they made an actually capable an effevtive weapon agaisnt the Kaijus ... And then they abandoned them in favor of a road bump, well a wall, but that thing may as well be a road bump considefing how useless it was.
They had something that worked, they took the most ineficient option they have and made it actually work, and THEN then they decided to just ... Abandon it in favor of an "alternative" that just ... DOESN'T EVEN WORK AS AN OBSTACLE.
@@mariahuber1438 because any emplaced defensive structure is a tactical target rather than a tactical unit. Railroads are substantially cheaper to use and operate than a convoy of cargo trucks, but they're also substantially easier to take offline because your enemy can just bomb the railroad.
With ample evidence that Kaiju are able to plan, adapt, and strategize, any emplaced structure is just asking to be destroyed. We have animals alive today on earth that use projectile weaponry, lizards that use pressurized jets of blood from their eyes, ants that shoot acid, spiders that eject hairs from their backs like bio-mortars, pistol shrimp, etc. so it's not really all that large of a leap to say that if humanity developed fixed emplacements and relied on them heavily Kaijus would just outplay them easily. (sort of like they already tried to do by creating a Kaiju that could emit EMPs.)
The fact that Jaegers are deployable means that you can have a greater diversity of technologies with a somewhat managable cost. (certain groups of people love to mock the economy, "how dare you?!" and all, but it's not just made up numbers. Those numbers represent actual production and consumption, if governments start forgetting that - as they unfortunately already are - then people will eventually just stop using their currency entirely because everyone knows the government will just print infinitely more. Printing money means allowing consumption without corresponding production, which is utterly unsustainable) If you used emplaced weaponry however then you need to have a wide diversity of defenses at *_every_* possible location, whereas if you used something deployable like Jaegers then you only need to create a diverse selection of Jaegers, and then wherever threats come about you can deploy them.
The nuclear landmind strategy is certainly much stronger superficially, though there are still lots of caveats here since any time one of them went off the others would either go off or be destroyed as well, so the Kaiju could just bait them out by setting off one while hiding in the portal, then flood through.
Speaking of flood, a heavy reliance on hard-hitting one-shot weaponry would very likely just lead to them either producing swarms of micro-kaiju or creating a kaiju that can produce it's own swarms. Why they *_didn't_* do this with jaegers is unclear, (it's possible they were trying to with giving at least one of them reproductive capabilities) but eitherway it'd be an easy way to counter the "just use mounted railguns on walls" or "just use missiles" approach.
Basically though, the big issue with any emplaced weaponry is that you can't move it to where it's needed when it's needed, whereas you can with something like a Jaeger. So in order to defend against a wide variety of unpredictable modes of attack with emplaced defenses you need to defend against every possible attack at every possible location, whereas with deployable defenses you only need to prepare for a wide variety of possible attacks and can cover the gaps with more careful/clever deployments. (that's not to say the complete absence of emplaced weaponry would be acceptable either mind you, major coastal cities absolutely should have railgun towers or something, hell even something like giant rail-accelerated supersonic kinetic-impact drones or something mounted on mountain tops for assisting Jaegers would be a really solid concept. My point is just that *_relying_* on emplaced weaponry isn't smart, since it's easy to circumvent emplaced defenses due to their immobility)
Not gonna lie, "We either sit and wait or we take these flare guns and do something _really_ stupid!" was an awesome line with an amazing delivery.
Loved this movie, imperfections and all.
As an Australian, I got a warm fuzzy feeling when they decided to "do something really stupid." That's who we are, and that's what we do.
@@StevieB8363, it's why us Americans love your crazy asses so much.
Heck, just giving the Jaegers effective melee weaponry would give them a sizable advantage. Gypsy Danger’s sword sawed one pretty much in half, so why not take it a step further and just give them a big axe or warhammer? Kaiju claws suddenly become rather trivial when you can simply stave in their skulls or bisect them from 50 feet away.
And if that works, just give them something that gives them even more reach. Like a big spear, but one that you shoot out of a tube with some form of propellant or other acceleration system, so you can kill them from a mile away or more.
Warhammer 40K go *BRRRT*
@@ntfoperative9432 No thanks.
You got a point. We saw how effective a boat was as a club. Imagine those bitches getting their hands on Thunder Hammers or some other 40k shenanigans
Kaiju blood is extremely toxic
It's was a fun movie and the cast was phenomenal! Charlie Hunnam, Charlie Day, Idris Elba, Max Martini, Ron Perlman, Clifton Collins Jr, & Burn Gorman really made it memorable for me!
Alice in WOnderland is better in my opinion.
Atomic Robo already kind of made this video in the form of the volume "Atomic Robo and the Ring of Fire." In that book they have kaiju called "biomega" that they try to fight off with giant robots, but the robots do little more than stall them. What actually saves the day is an abandoned Nazi WMD, an orbital platform that drops giant tungsten rods like kinetic bombs, each one packing the raw energy of a tactical nuke without any of that messy radiation.
I always enjoy the "rod from god" concept
German science is the best in the world!
Wow so the biomega are being killed by very heavy fast moving blunt objects with the power of a nuke now that's using physics
The Rods from the Gods concept. Very effective if you can hit a moving target. Isaac Arthur's channel has some cool videos discussing the concept.
@@Yggdrasil42there’s about a thousand other “ifs” involved with the Rod From God concept. And that’s assuming you want to foot a bill even larger than the Jaeger Program. Even then, you get about the same yield as a single MOAB bomb.
Unironically, this is hands down my absolute favorite movie. Complete guilty pleasure.
read the book… it’s even better !
That's like flexing about living in an iron lung.
@@fitzwaren the thing is the book doesn't come with Tom Morello unfortunately
But giant robots fight giant monster is cool. Also Idris Elba cancelled the apocalypse in a well fitting jumpsuit. It's a masterpiece.
Hey, have you ever considered doing a video on a sci-fi civilization/villain that you see as actually smart enough to really exist/win? I want to hear about the othdr side of the coin.
Also, I think it'll be cool if you did a video about Tuvok. I don't know much about Star Trek but he's obviously a character you like.
Agreed
The real-world United Nations aren't too much better unfortunately
let the us military handle the big monster threat instead
20:53 As we all know from Japanese anime, teenagers are the best suited for piloting Giant Robots.
Recommendation: "Move further inland to avoid the giant kaiju."
Aussies: "Have you seen what's further inland, mate? We'll take our chances with the kaiju!" 🤣
aussies should already be able to deal with the giant monsters themselves if they can deal with the aussie wildlife
Emus start coming from the breach
This movie kicked ass. It was everything I wanted as a kid. Giant monsters, giant robots. Giant robots fighting giant monsters.
Honestly, the way the UN acts is probably the most realistic part of this movie.
BUT MZ!!!
I DIG! GIANT ROBOTS
YOU DIG! GIANT ROBOTS
WE DIG! GIANT ROBOTS
CHICKS DIGS! GIANT ROBOTS!
(Epic electric guitar riff)
Sunk-cost fallacy: human civilization in a nutshell.
No way tech bros are giving up that sweet New Zealand Apocalypse get away.
Unnecessary quoting of fallacies: Autistic pseudointellectuals trying to appear intelligent in youtube comments.
Holy! Was literally just going back rewatching your old vids to pass the time waiting for another upload.... I happened to refresh my page and boom! This a good day, gonna grab drink, get comfy and enjoy this one lol
Giant mechs are cool but couldn't gaint bases and vehicles or many smaller ones overwhelm the creatures and in cases take less casualties per battle. Especially if you try to eventually guard the main area they keep coming from. Just find the portal and sink a nuke with maybe a timer into it
Somehow, this is better than our United Nations.
Hahaha.....so true.
Our United Nations would probably try and condemn the US for their efforts in killing Trespasser.
They are a bit too busy helping creating new systems of control, creating newer narratives, distractions, and cultural lawlessness and wickedness amongst the populations for their one world government to form like some mystery Babylon final world empire antichrist bullcrap the Bible predicted would happen in the books Revelations, 2nd Esdras, and others.
@@sonofjack6286 Either that someone on the security council would veto every decent attempt to deal with the threat.
@@Flaris And it would be 100% out of spite toward the country that suggested it. Never underestimate the human ability to let petty rivalry sabotage actual problem solving.
I had a mech RPG once, and it took me ten minutes to work out that I could build a giant aircraft that could one shot any mech at a fraction of the cost.
Did you though?
@@concept5631 Did you assume that I had people to play with??
@@casbot71 Yes I did.
Did you use the mech or aircraft?
Wait, the kaiju's flesh is silicon-based? Doesn't silicon crystallize when exposed to oxygen?
You have to remember that these creatures are designed, not evolved.
Either that's an intentional design feature (Explaining why the Kaiju are immune to normal weaponry) or something the Precursors had designed around.
Being engineered organisms that can do thing like produce massive EMPs there is probably any number of ways they could get around the issue of silicon turning into a solid when it oxidizes
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Silicon should not stop depleted uranium ordinance or even a bath of corrosive acids like HF.
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim But they aren't immune to conventional weapons. Striker killed one with a volley of missiles.
@@richardarriaga6271 -- the Kaiju's primary defense is its sheer mass. To a creature weighing 6,000 tons only our largest conventional explosive and chemical weapons would give them more than a mild rash. And all our existing ballistics weapons platforms are basically just bricks with pistols taped to them.
A really big harpoon is ptobably the. best option.
A submarine dropping off numerous mines above the breach seems like an easy idea. Maybe a few nuclear torpedos Avengers style through the breach any time it opens.
Pacific rim was my gateway to mecha right besides voltron but I'll be damned if I won't enjoy you tearing this film apart
At first, I thought you were talking about the REAL United Nations in NYC, New York. That's an organization that sounds AWESOME in theory but is so corrupt and inept that in practice is often a wretched mess.
Pacific Rim and a Media Zealot video LES GOOO.
its nice to have a movie with realistic politicians
The world leaders all working together to get people killed while they hide behind wealth is the most realistic part of the movie.
A really interesting Pacific Rim offshoot movie could be a story about reckless Jaeger pilots raring to do something stupid and risky, completely deadpan, but being bogged down by Kafkaesque Bureaucracy in real time and the same thing happening on the other side of The Breach.
Sounds hilarious
I didn't go to see this movie for complex, nuanced plots and well written characters. I went specifically to satisfy the parts of my stupid caveman brain that wanted to see a Gundam fight Godzilla and by God I was not disappointed in the slightest.
Your content is always enjoyable, hope you had fun making this episode!
sounds like a killjoy to me. Also he harps onward about the same point over and over, offering little evidence to back it up.
@@scottdoesntmatter4409 This is a video making fun of a government in a movie about giant robots kicking massive alien ass. Did you expect a deep scientific analysis?
I feel like the rods from heaven would be a good weapon that wouldn't bankrupt every country.
The kinetic power of a tactical nuke with none of the fallout.
Actually, they don't have that much power.
Good luck hitting a moving target.
@sebastienholmes548 Close enough
traditionally nukes aren't used on highly mobile targets so I feel like the restriction of being satellite based wouldn't impact their function that much.@@GeorgeMonet
That isnt even necessary. Realistically all we would have to do is put the proper guidance systems on bunker buster bombs that we've had since ww2 (an extremely simple fix given current guided munition technology) and just watch them splatter into a kilometer wide blue stain on the pavement. Or even start making more huge ww2 cannons and battleships. All of this technology already currently exists. Of course, the reetarts in hollywood have no idea about any of this
These episodes have been great! Thank you for the entertainment and breakdowns. Really great stuff here.
Another top-notch quality video. I am glad I discovered this channel way back when. Keep up the great work, my man.
Not to mention that the kaijus are genetic clones. A biological agent would be very effective.
Good luck making a biological weapon specialized for an alien creature with a completely different genome than anything on earth even ignoring that you'll need to inject a massive dosage for it to work not to mention that they originate from a dimension where pollution is oxygen to them soo most forms of chemical, toxic weapons and radiation are useless against them. and let's not forget that they literally build the kaijus as if they were a car soo even assuming that they somehow can what stops the precursors from just making kaijus from different genomes? Or even just modify them to be immune to this biological agent? We've seen kaijus capable of creating EMP pulses and even absorb kinetic energy make their immune system better should be child's play to them
Yeah but fck that. Giant robot suits.
Now that would be cool. Andromeda Strain-esque movie (or book or whatever) about analysing alien monsters and trying to find a way to kill them.
Not sure if you brought it up yet but the Kaiju are engineered, so they eventually adapted to fight against the weapons the Jaegers had. It be a constant arms race. I agree definitely fight then smarter but throw a lot of that support at figuring out how to close the breach.
If they can't adapt to the "big robot with sword" it will can't adopt vs BIG ANTY ARMOUR MISSEL something like antybunker missel so it will hit a monster go 5m deep into it and then explode.
OR nuke you can adopt to 100.000C+ . Becouse everything will just evaporate
OFC in move like this all this airplane flight at 100m
Even short-range rocket have 20 + km of range so you fly 5 km above and just shoot this monster from safe distance . EZ
Honestly, they could have made a ton of plasma cannons at the base of the rift. Just a couple of bases and tons of ammo. As soon as the kaiju appeared, they would be immediately spawn killed. Or just Yaegers in bases nearby, so they can be there to jump the single file monster at a time. Otherwise, it really was just a fun dumb-smart movie to get to see giant robots and monsters to fight.
There are literally 1000 different ways we actually, in real life could deal with these things let alone if we had the technology level to make jaegers. It just wouldn't make for a good movie, mostly
"I'm the government, I'm the government, I'm the reason nothing works!"
I want you to do NERV. You cant us more sofisticated weaponry when you have divine clones of god controlled by gigantic armor suits.
I know these must be a huge amount of work to make, and I am always happy to see one show up. The TH-cam algorithm doesn't generally support long form content creators, but I do. So thank you.
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I'm pretty sure that half of the drafting of these videos is just watching Star Trek and fishing for Tuvok quotes.
I always forget I’m subscribe to this channel but every time I see a video pop-up. I am so pumped
fucking awesome and hilarious.
Automated underwater cannons at the opening seem like a good idea to me.
Love your content videos and this YT series is awesome.
The new military spending by Japan can only lead to real life Jaegers . Right? DON'T CRUSH MY DREAMS!
Your video is always welcome MZ and this was a good one and not to mention that the Jaegers wouldn't be able to build or operate due to their sheer size and their way of moving would collapse the whole Jaeger massive build.
If Gypsy, Striker, and Chero were built in real life they *could* stand and walk around without tearing themselves apart. They probably couldn't throw punches though.
@@Grizabeebles My point still stands that they would be useless in combat. I like the first Pacific Rim. But that doesn't mean that do not call out the mistakes and things that make no sense.
@@JustTooDamnHonest -- You're moving the goalpost is what you're doing. Have a nice day.
@@Grizabeebles No just because I like something doesn't mean that I will not call out things that make no sense and there have been scientists who are well known in their field who have called this out and showed models of what would happen if a Jaeger was built and most of them would collapse due to the weight alone(I'm not just talking out of my ass) and that is why it is a fictional world and that is why we like it for reality is boring.
I'm not moving any goalpost for I'm just looking at it from a realistic and writer's point of view just any other critic worth their salt.
That is all and I would like to end this chat with a good bye and a hope to see you never.
Gonna point out... they have a sword that can easily cut thru the monsters...... and they know exactly where they come out of.
Make a razor wire net of those swords and put that over the top of the portal so when they monsters come thru they are turned into french fries.....
with the power sources available to run the mechs, could make flying railgun platform drone swarms.
Pacific Rim wasn't meant to make sense. It was a love letter to those of who grew up enjoying this genre. It was lovely watching in the theater, a taste of childhood. As the other love letter theme song once said: chicks dig giant robots.
But yes, your points are right.
man i love this YT series. Thanks!
Also we know there is a major lack of Asian actors in Hollywood but the fact whats her name wasn't fluent in English as well as her native Japanese was hilarious lol.
It's like, "What language do you speak fluently?"
"Yes"
>hypersonic missiles
Movies over, go home folks
Yep, tons of anti Kaijo weapons on the mechs but instead of scaling that down to conventional weapon platforms, lets build a wall and not even install Jaeger weapons on it.
I still love the first movie, but I don't think it'll ever stop coming off as utterly absurd that they actually thought a wall - not even a wall extensively armed with anti-kaiju armaments, just really big wall - would be enough to stop this insanely advanced extra-dimensional alien species that constantly adapts to face humanity's technology from just...learning to climb. Something that human children regularly do just for fun, and that countless animals that AREN'T unnaturally quick to adapt are often able to figure out pretty easily. Even if that thing was made with a nigh-indestructible material, there are so many ways to just render it completely useless without having to actually break through it.
Or just dig under
They're gonna build a wall, and they're gonna get the kaiju to pay for it!
lol I miss the 2010s
Honestly Evangelion did kinda resolve the issue with requiring large robots - namely because AT fields where tied to individual living creatures, thus traditional conventional weaponry was ineffective. I know later the lore on this became a bit convoluted, but it ensured that Mechs where quite literally THE solution to the Angel threat.
Just put the plasma guns and missiles on the wall, then put the Jaegers behind it as a backup. The Rim then becomes like Helm's Deep but everyone involved is 100m tall
"We need to use blunt force because the blood is toxic"
Bruh build the wall around the portal to contain the blood and then just hack and slash to victory
Tuvok's first strike 4:52
6:04 “Germans are gonna go nuts with that stuff.” Bro you are comical! 😂
I wonder if the government thought of downscaling the mechs to make them faster and get more scientists in to expand the weapons even further so it wouldn't be too expensive.
With the way Jaeger drift works, does that mean Aussie kid drifting with his father let him know well, how his mother and father met?
Also, idk how he was compatible seeing how as he seemed quite unstable. I sort of picture Jaeger drivers being put through a standard similar to astronauts.
Come to think of it, If the UN was a little more competent we wouldn't be far off from a in-movie Attack on Titan parody.
What is the UN's reason for existing anyway?
@@dansmith1661 Embezzling money and trafficking child sex slaves
@@dansmith1661International conflict prevention for the most part. It's completely failed.
We have guided bunker-buster bombs that can penetrate hundreds of feet of steel and concrete (which dumps more energy into the target than even the biggest robot fist and that's before the explosive payload is factored in), and can be dropped from high altitudes without any loss of accuracy, but this movie claims only nukes and giant robot fists can kill the giant monsters. I have doubts.
A lot of fiction does that.
Like how some series present the idea of a completely non-magical flesh and blood horror creature that is completely immune to firearms in general no matter the general firepower or caliber of the firearm and munitions.
This is one of my favorite series on youtube, glad that another episode got uploaded! Cant wait for the next one :D
this series is one of my favorite things on youtube. no joke brother
New Media Zealot! Let's go!
It's funny how in the same video he bashes the tactic of making giant robots which the UN kept using because it worked instead creating new weapons when in the same video he literally mentioned that the Kaijus could learn and adapt to whatever their enemies threw at them.
I thought you meant the Real life Organisation and was just like: what about the un is science fiction?
the UN has never prevented a single war or atrocity. not once, not one time. also get a load of the countries they have on the "human rights" council. its ironies all the way down.
@@cwg9238 lmao russia is literally committing the biggest genocide since the 1990s right now, and they are on the council. And israel😂
@@cameronspence4977 define genocide.
No offense to Godzilla fans (and seriously, the MonsterVerse is AWESOME, don't get me wrong), but to me, Pacific Rim is the best giant monster movie ever 😊
Fallout isn't even a real big problem. Nuclear devices today are very efficient. Quite often whether or not it produces an explosion or fallout is a design choice.
There is always some fallout but they are much better now. Even the early ones weren't nearly as bad as some people think look at how fast people could rebuild Hiroshima they didnt have to wait hundreds of years like some people think. They US tested hundreds on it's own soil and the Pacific ocean
@@johno1544 That is a reasonable and balanced perspective. The question is what's the actual amount and impact. Humans today living in civilisation live in a hyper clean ultra sanitised environment with an excessively obsessive sense of hygiene that's quite often to the point of irrationality. There is a sense of things being lethal that really aren't all that harmful. There's always some fallout but the reality is the vast majority of people can live a perfectly normal life at low levels of fallout. Indeed, in Japan where somewhat crude prototype devices were used the fallout was limited and while a few people might try to make it out to be a big deal the harsh truth is that a few flipper babies and the occasional earlier death has a negligible impact on human survival and quality of life. The damage done by the explosion was far worse and the local human population fully recovered even from that. In human history in the last hundred years over two thousand nuclear warheads have been detonated with over five hundred above ground. The bigger issue with a nuclear defence will be the potential for accidents or collateral if the target is allowed to reach certain areas. The biggest potential for devastating fallout would be if the enemy reaches and attacks nuclear storage or a nuclear powerplant. Most of the world is somewhat empty. If all the nuclear powers launched all of their arsenals at completely random coordinates very little damage would be done. People forget that nukes are not only so destructive because of their yields and blast radiuses but because we also make it easy concentrating everything into single targets like cities. A proper nuclear defence policy of a nuclear firewall would take out most of the enemy before they got within even a hundred miles of human infrastructure or population centres.
@@FirstLast-rb5zj What about all the dust that'd be kicked up into the atmosphere by that many explosions? Wouldn't that have a remarkable impact on the state of the Earth or would the dust settle far too early to have that kind of effect?
@@williamnixon3994 Look up that timelapse about every nuclear bomb detonated, it really shows how much the earth can take without being affected
OMG I'm glad this series is still going!! This stuff is amazing!!
A list of new scifi settings to critique:
Cyberpunk Franchise/2077
Psycho-pass
Koushun Takami's Battle Royale (novel/manga lore included)
Earth Federation (Universal Century Gundam)
Wolfenstein: The New Order
Covenant (Halo)
Brittanian Empire (Code Geass)
And of course the Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
“Sci-fi civilizations too stupid to exist: the United Nations” that’s just funny to me.
Kaiju #8 one year later:
"Oh yeah? Freezing bullets, giant weapons and fucking AXES my boi!"
YESSS PAPA ZEALOT IS BACK
Still amazed that Media Zelot has a Star Trek quote, mostly from one single character, for literally ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.....
I always marvelled at how stupid they were to make thousands of miles of massive walls rather than finding the breach and using a third that amount to turn the whole canyon the breach is in into concrete. They could even use some of the metal used in the jaegers to laminate the surface facing the kaiju to ensure they don't even get a foothold. Or if it tracks on Stargate logic, placing it only a few micrometers from the event horizon would prevent them from re-integrating on our side; making the solution an incredibly cheap fix
Imagine if they figured our a way to use the reactor tech and the plasma weapons on aircraft.
A airframe that like a modern nuclear submarine does not need to be fueled and that has powerful plasma weapons that can injure the kaiju.
The only limiting factor would be pilot crew rest and that could be motivated by having the airframe lands briefe and our a fresh pilot in.
Giant mechs are awesome... but usually don't make sense. Like Battletech... for all the resources you pour into one mech.. you could probably built a dozen or so tanks ... each with the same main weapon. Unless it's something like Evangelion, where the mechs seem to be the most effective way to fight the Angels. Or Gundam and Robotech, where they fly and can maneuver in ways jets can't.
But ... how much fun would Pacific Rim be without the mechs?
Wasn't it that in Battletech, the Star Cores or whatever the reactors are called are really hard to build and repair, so instead of wasting them on tiny tanks, they try and get more bang for their buck with mechs?
And actually in the universe itself you do have lots of little tanks that can easily swarm and destroy mechs with missile barrages or mounted plasma cannons...
I like to think the kaiju almost felt pity for how dumb humanity was to just build a wall
Great video as always, something that bugged me about the second movie is that Stryker didn't get an updated version like gypsy did.