I got a Quora post recommendation not too long ago, and the topic was on why the Romans didn't expand to sub-saharan Africa after conquering Egypt. To my surprise none of the top posts or expert historians listed the result of the Nubian and Roman war as one of the factors. This really puts into perspective how easy it is for ancient African achievements to be neglected, and I'm glad that this channel exists to change that.
Also, let's not forget a big contribution to the Partition of Africa were malaria-preventing medications, which didn't come until the industrial revolution.
You are correct. From Nubia to Nigeria them men of men lived in those lands in those timelines and it was impossible to invade them by land and by sea and not die there. It would be jungle warfare if the Roman army survive the march through the desert into West Africa. My ancestors would have drank wine from the skulls of their generals to honour them for their bravery or stupidity. And we would have marched to Kemet to drive them out once they invaded us in that age if men. The emperor of the Benin empire could have easily raised 500,000 foot soldiers against them. Black men who were stronger than Caucasian who had no guns would be suicide for the Greeks, Romans and Persians who couldn’t defeat the people of the Sudan ie kush and Nubia alone. To be sandwiched between these two group of related Africans would have been suicide for Rome even in Egypt. These leaders had no weak European genes in them. If their descendants didn’t have Gatling guns they would never have colonised Africa.
The Romans did not extensively expand into Sub-Saharan Africa after conquering Egypt due to several factors, drawing from academic sources: 1. Geographical Barriers: The vast Sahara Desert acted as a formidable natural barrier, making large-scale military campaigns and sustained occupation challenging. 2. Logistical Challenges: The logistical difficulties of supplying and maintaining Roman armies across long distances and harsh environments, especially without established infrastructure, deterred further expansion. 3. Strategic Priorities: The Roman Empire had competing priorities and ongoing conflicts in other regions, such as in Europe and the Middle East, diverting attention and resources away from Sub-Saharan Africa. 4. Cultural and Economic Considerations: The Roman focus on the Mediterranean and its adjacent territories was partly influenced by economic and cultural ties, as trade routes and economic exchanges were more established in those regions. 5. Disease and Climate: Sub-Saharan Africa presented different climates and diseases unfamiliar to Romans, potentially posing health risks and further complicating military campaigns.
Incorrect the main reason is Africa had organized states and militaries south in Kush, Ethiopia and Somalia etc that could defend themselves. This coupled with some logistical points played a role. Malaria was not a major factor in these regions. The Romans focused on making trade connections with Ethiopia, Sudan and the Somalis etc. after their war with Kush ended in failure.
I will never understand why black people insist on claiming and even celebrating Cleopatra but ignore undeniably black queens in our history. Thanks for this info.
Other parts of subsaharan Africa had no idea that ancient Nubia even existed until a few years ago. There was never any “ African history “ before early 20th century. So those who say “ our history “ don’t know what they are talking about.
@@st3019its just americans that speak like this, they have no connection to their roots so they just claim all african history at the same time and connect them
@@st3019 Ancient Nubia is part of African history, it's like asking about the history of Europe, of course, I mean the history of different Kingdoms and peoples that make up Europe. The same is the case when looking at Africa.
@@AskiatheGreat64 It is not the same when you talk about Songhai empire and Zimbabwe or Mupata Bc none of these empires were connected with other parts of the world. When it comes to North Africa situation is different Bc not only these parts differ from others but they were racially AND culturally related with Mediterranean civilizations and Arabian peninsula. A Greek or Italian or Spanish sees Moroccans or Egyptians or Libyans etc not just as North Africans but as their neighbors, people which they have been sharing customs , traditions, history and have been living, sharing , intermixing , fighting , ruling etc . Everything was right there . Europe is geographically small, broken , plenty of navigable waters (rivers , lakes, bays , natural harbors) they had horses to travel all the time and everywhere etc , and yet some people were isolated. And Europe is in fact, not a continent geographically, it’s a subcontinent of Eurasia. You never hear Chinese talking about Assyrian empire or Persian empire as “ Asian history “ and there is a reason for that . Today , there are black folks not only in the west but even in Africa who are going around and “ we Africans civilized Europe “ and bull**t like that Bc they hear ahistorical hoaxes on social media. This is pathetic.
I think it would have to be somebody independent because the entertainment industry is not interested in doing stories about black characters. With a lack of creativity and them being about the woke message, they’ll just take historical white characters and paint them black.
It's crazy cause I just watched your two old videos -- one animated -- about the mighty Queen Amanirenas. I appreciate that you delved deeper into the politics this time around. It's a crying shame that more people of African descent don't know anything about her.
“ Africans “ are not one people and the history of Nubia has absolutely nothing to do with tropical Africa. They didn’t know that Nubians even existed before early 20th century.
I do too, but with a lack of creativity and the woke message of Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general, it’s just easy to take European or white characters and make them sub-Sahara African or black.
Great stuff as usual, Cleo lost but got all the flowers Queen Amenirenas won, hardly got any love, it's up to us to uphold her name and her incredible story, if only Netflix had gone in a different direction..😮💨
Love your channel❣️ Can you add a few maps to highlight the locations you’re discussing ? I pray that you’re developing a text book covering all the Africans and countries you discuss🙏🏽
Great video. Queen Candace the Empress of Ethiopia. Alexander after conquering Egypt didn’t entertain the idea of going to war with her. Queen Candace rode in Elephant into Battle.
Alexander had conquered most of the known world of that time . When he arrived in Egypt, he had created the greatest empire so far . He died a few years later . To pretend that Kingdom of Kush could’ve stopped Alexander is just a wishful thinking. His army was well trained to fight even in heat , experienced, determined and tactically very skillful. I know many black folks like to entertain themselves with idea that “ Nubians defeated Rome “ . The historical reality is that Rome never launched a mass attack on Nubians. This Queen just defeated a small Roman contingent located in the border
Amanirenas didn’t have to give up no royal a$$ for the sake of her kingdom and country. She fought back against the mightiest nation on earth at that time, and prevailed.
We must also acknowledge the unheralded abilities of Meroe's soldiers. Cherry picking historians like to celebrate how deadly the Nubian archers were... but you didn't defeat Roman cohorts with only bows and arrows.
@@handl3869 I’ve always been curious about the martial and fighting abilities of the Nubians. Because, some of the most awesome armies in history were not able to penetrate their borders. The Persians, Macedonians, the Greeks and Romans none of them managed to conquer them. Your point is well taken.
@@capoislamort100 You have to remember that none of these empires you mentioned did have any important goal to conquer Nubians. In reality, none of them did launch any massive attack on Nubia. Nubians in fact did not defeat a real organized army . It was a contingent of Egyptians under Roman rule which was defeated.
Cleopatra was of greek ancestry, being of the Ptolemaic dinasty. So , she identified more with the romans. Guess what... . I don't think she would be friends with a true african queen.
@laborincana4490 actually, she specifically made sure she incorporated herself with Egyptian culture by adopting the religion and customs of Egypt and not of Greece or Rome.
This question is why whenever someone talks about remaking ‘Anthony and Cleopatra: Starring Elizabeth Taylor’*, I wish they would frame it as a story being told from from someone’s POV. Meroe would be a perfect POV to do, because casting and also you can do the “But now the Romans face us!” ending a la bit with the Southwestern Greeks all united against the Persians at the end of 300. *Let’s be honest, nobody remaking the story of Cleopatra Philapater VII is looking to talk about her tax policies. They are all looking to capture soap operatic opulence of the 1960s Hollywood Movies and French Romantic Paintings, but “good” this time.
@@laborincana4490The Romans despite cribbing so much of their culture and religion from Greece, actually didn't think very highly of them, particularly the Ptolemies whom they considered decadent and Eastern; Cleo and her father were unpopular with a lot of their people due to them being friendly with Rome, though in both their cases that friendliness was strategic, and a way of fending off total conquest- Which as we know *did* happen with Cleo VII's death.
In all likelihood, the relationship between Kush and the Greeks was amicable. Cleopatra apparently had no hostility to Queen Amanirenas. This makes sense being that Alexander had conquered Egypt when it was controlled by the Persians. The Kushite Egyptian dynasties were long gone by the time the Greeks got there, so there was no documented belligerence between the Greeks and the Kushites, with the former being much more concerned about the Romans, which were never big fans of the Greek rulers. The Greeks wanted to be left alone to the point their rulers rarely left Alexandria. The Greeks adopted Egyptian customs and culture, so they wouldn't have been seen by the Kushites as particularly threatening. In fact, they would probably be unrecognizable to mainland Greeks at the time. They may not have been allies, but they were far from enemies. They probably saw each other as trading partners. No more, no less.
Great research !!! Another hidden story… where Egypt… who’s never recognized as part of the African continent in many ways by the powers that be yet you have a story like this in the heart of the African continent We must uncover are history ourselves Thank you.
i think people only like Cleopatra because they like how beautiful her name is, not because they know anything about her. They like Egypt on a surface level in general. People enjoy the fashion and the decadence and the unique names but nothing more. side note Cleopatra isn't even an Egyptian name, its Middle-Englished Greek.
Thank you for the education, maybe you need to get in contact with Netflix and show them the programmes they should be making for black history. New year's resolution to go through all your videos in 2024 and educate myself.
I thought Cleopatra was a greek queen. also, that dsynasty even in the expansion roman policy wasn't only problem but they did a poor job at basic upkeep of the country even though the wealth and knowlege was there.
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Thanks for honour ing Kandake Armanirenas. I have never understood the Black hype about Cleopatra. But then again as Cleo hopped into bed with European big players of course the focus is all on her. I only give her credits for having been the only Ptolemaic ruler who bothered to learn the indigenous language.
I learned about this Queen a few months ago, she handed an imperial super power and one of the greatest Cesars a big fat L and stopped further Roman expansion into Africa. We need movies about her and don't need to black wash Cleopatra who was an INBRED descendant of Macedonian/Greek royalty and not really an African.
What stopped Roman expansion in inner Africa was not her but geography. In fact , Rome never launched any massive attack in territories below Egypt. This Nubian Queen just defeated a small contingent of Roman army .
@@st3019Please calm down😂 what you won't do is downplay the accomplishments of a true nubian queen just coz she defeated them Caucasian folks and was waaaay better than Cleopatra ever was😉
I heard a different perspective which was that the Kushites defeated the Romans and forced them to sign a treaty. The treaty that favored the Kushite terms and the Roman border was moved so it’s clear that the Kushites won this conflict. Roman propaganda be damned.
The only error in this video is that you keep showing the Netflix version of Cleopatra the 7th and not the historical pictures or paintings of her. It's just something that you have to correct and let go of, going forward. Another issue is that the description of the video is empty. The name of the chick in your video isn't even listed on there. Like what the hell?
Hollywood need to stop with their nonsense of giving Black/Middle Easterner/Asian and all of the non-whites of preexisting white/European characters & started adapting their own stories from their continent origins.
Egypt and Nubia are in two different geographical situations...Egypt had an exposure on the Mediterranean...Nubia,....Libya....and West Asia. Nubia didn't...
Africa was = black/ brown people exclusively before invasion by foreign entities. Take for example ancient Egypt was invaded the Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, Persians so you can imagine the erasure of the original people, culture, traditions and customs happening over this different periods of time thus Cleo might have been biracial too. People(and I mean them white folks and Arabs) were mad at how Cleo was represented in the Netflix documentary but it was actually a more accurate representation of ancient Egypt during that time than what white supremacy tries to sell to us through their movies
@@meln704 I agree with what you assert here in the first part about Cleopatra being bi-racial. But in reverse the backlash for the Netflix is a norm everywhere which is weird. what if for example Martin Luther King Jr is played by an Asian or a white man, there would be all sorts of racist allegations to ever violence. so its not a very one sided world. i know how people were fuming with just a rumor circulating that a fictional character "Black Panther" would be played by someone of Asian descent. If Black people have this kind of racial superiority then i can't just blame the white and brown and Indians for their racial superiority complex. More than 90% of all crimes commited on Black people in the US are done by Black people but it gets unchecked but when someone from a different race does that "not even with a racial objective", he would be tossed into hell. I am very neutral on racial issues. i find all to be extreme. We are humans and should stay grounded to our core values at the end of the day.
Cleopatra was descended from the Greek rulers who conquered Egypt. We need to stop trying to claim her and celebrate the African women who resisted colonization
History is not defined just by genes . Africa is not a separated planet. Parts of Africa were racially and culturally related with Mediterranean civilizations and world.
@@StopTheLiess You know little. The original people from that land are the Kru or Klao people, named after Klaopatra of Egypt who later moved away and founded the Songhay Empire under Sonni Ali who was also a Kru man. The word Kru comes from the word KUSH, the land from which they came. They moved into the Sudanic lands when the Mamluks destroyed their lands and due to the fact that they were surrounded by Muslims. We're from the tribe of Benjamin and are the most Malitaristic people in history.
@@StopTheLiess Lol, no, the Kingdom of Kush was located in present-day Sudan, you can go to Sudan today to see the Kushite Pyramids (300 of them) that were built thousands of years ago, unfortunately, there is a civil war going on in the country, so you may have to wait a bit longer.
And Elvis Presley who stole black people's music was the best Rock n Roll artist to date, yip, white people can overhype everything and anything. We need to do our own research.
According to Woke Wikipedia she started the beef pre-emptively. She was the same Candace who 9 years later in 36 AD the Ethiopian Eunuch was attached to, a queen of Meroe who is listed in the New Testament Book of Acts chapter 8. Her effigy from a Meroe pyramid is not Nilotic nor Mediterranean looking. She looks sorta biracial.
@@supahotjoe6493 But she wasn't. The Ptolemies were inbred Greek colonizers who ruled for about 3 centuries before Roman conquest. And honestly, why this focus on Egypt, as though the rest of Africa didn't boast great Black royalty?
@@supahotjoe6493 You cannot talk rubbish here “ Egypt was black before 525 “ and then try to get over it by saying “ get over it “ ! The problem is that there is not a shred of evidence whatsoever to prove that any black/negroid Egypt even existed. There was never any black African population as native population anywhere outside of subsaharan Africa. This “ black/negroid Egypt “is just a fabricated fairytale of 20th century.
historical growth is understanding that mark antonio was the good guy who loved eastern and african culture more than western and wanted to fight for it
mark antonio was a white roman. no one will take us seriously if you dont know basic facts. having black pride does not mean ignorance. Catch up@@bri1085
if you two are black, please remember to read history book (from reliable afrocentric sources) rather than getting all your info from youtube. Ignorance does not help any cause :) be blessed
It's true Cleopatra was party Greek.Historian failed to knowledge her mother was Nubian African descent.Cleopatra skin tone would be much darker,just the woman who played her in the Netix series.Not like Elizabeth Taylor.
“Historians failed to knowledge her mother was Nubian descent “ ?! Well, fabricated fairytales of J. H. Clarke and I. Van Sertima are not historical sources. There’s no evidence her mother being Nubian at all.
Cleopatra was Egyptian which is african they looked african with african features just look at the statues thats why they shot there noses off before the land was conquered stop lying cleo did not look European
@@Howardstwein912 if it didn’t matter, you wouldn’t have responded. I don’t need people of other races to look like me to have self-validation. And we can’t say all others were black because a couple Egyptian mummies discovered look very European.
without Egypt what ya blacks gonna boast about lol.. that how bad black achievements are.. we in 2023 and still depend on the rest of us for technology lol
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I got a Quora post recommendation not too long ago, and the topic was on why the Romans didn't expand to sub-saharan Africa after conquering Egypt. To my surprise none of the top posts or expert historians listed the result of the Nubian and Roman war as one of the factors. This really puts into perspective how easy it is for ancient African achievements to be neglected, and I'm glad that this channel exists to change that.
Also, let's not forget a big contribution to the Partition of Africa were malaria-preventing medications, which didn't come until the industrial revolution.
You are correct. From Nubia to Nigeria them men of men lived in those lands in those timelines and it was impossible to invade them by land and by sea and not die there. It would be jungle warfare if the Roman army survive the march through the desert into West Africa. My ancestors would have drank wine from the skulls of their generals to honour them for their bravery or stupidity. And we would have marched to Kemet to drive them out once they invaded us in that age if men. The emperor of the Benin empire could have easily raised 500,000 foot soldiers against them. Black men who were stronger than Caucasian who had no guns would be suicide for the Greeks, Romans and Persians who couldn’t defeat the people of the Sudan ie kush and Nubia alone. To be sandwiched between these two group of related Africans would have been suicide for Rome even in Egypt. These leaders had no weak European genes in them. If their descendants didn’t have Gatling guns they would never have colonised Africa.
The Romans did not extensively expand into Sub-Saharan Africa after conquering Egypt due to several factors, drawing from academic sources:
1. Geographical Barriers: The vast Sahara Desert acted as a formidable natural barrier, making large-scale military campaigns and sustained occupation challenging.
2. Logistical Challenges: The logistical difficulties of supplying and maintaining Roman armies across long distances and harsh environments, especially without established infrastructure, deterred further expansion.
3. Strategic Priorities: The Roman Empire had competing priorities and ongoing conflicts in other regions, such as in Europe and the Middle East, diverting attention and resources away from Sub-Saharan Africa.
4. Cultural and Economic Considerations: The Roman focus on the Mediterranean and its adjacent territories was partly influenced by economic and cultural ties, as trade routes and economic exchanges were more established in those regions.
5. Disease and Climate: Sub-Saharan Africa presented different climates and diseases unfamiliar to Romans, potentially posing health risks and further complicating military campaigns.
@@alvanalvinoWhy didn’t they produce guns?
Incorrect the main reason is Africa had organized states and militaries south in Kush, Ethiopia and Somalia etc that could defend themselves.
This coupled with some logistical points played a role.
Malaria was not a major factor in these regions.
The Romans focused on making trade connections with Ethiopia, Sudan and the Somalis etc. after their war with Kush ended in failure.
I will never understand why black people insist on claiming and even celebrating Cleopatra but ignore undeniably black queens in our history. Thanks for this info.
Other parts of subsaharan Africa had no idea that ancient Nubia even existed until a few years ago. There was never any “ African history “ before early 20th century.
So those who say “ our history “ don’t know what they are talking about.
@@st3019its just americans that speak like this, they have no connection to their roots so they just claim all african history at the same time and connect them
@@st3019 Ancient Nubia is part of African history, it's like asking about the history of Europe, of course, I mean the history of different Kingdoms and peoples that make up Europe. The same is the case when looking at Africa.
@@AskiatheGreat64thank you it’s not that hard to understand
@@AskiatheGreat64 It is not the same when you talk about Songhai empire and Zimbabwe or Mupata Bc none of these empires were connected with other parts of the world.
When it comes to North Africa situation is different Bc not only these parts differ from others but they were racially AND culturally related with Mediterranean civilizations and Arabian peninsula. A Greek or Italian or Spanish sees Moroccans or Egyptians or Libyans etc not just as North Africans but as their neighbors, people which they have been sharing customs , traditions, history and have been living, sharing , intermixing , fighting , ruling etc . Everything was right there .
Europe is geographically small, broken , plenty of navigable waters (rivers , lakes, bays , natural harbors) they had horses to travel all the time and everywhere etc , and yet some people were isolated. And Europe is in fact, not a continent geographically, it’s a subcontinent of Eurasia. You never hear Chinese talking about Assyrian empire or Persian empire as “ Asian history “ and there is a reason for that . Today , there are black folks not only in the west but even in Africa who are going around and “ we Africans civilized Europe “ and bull**t like that Bc they hear ahistorical hoaxes on social media. This is pathetic.
This story is so fascinating. Thank you. She should be way more popular than she is. She sounds like a good queen.
Limited facts?
Yep hopefully one day somebody will make a movie about her.
I think it would have to be somebody independent because the entertainment industry is not interested in doing stories about black characters. With a lack of creativity and them being about the woke message, they’ll just take historical white characters and paint them black.
I yearn for the day when the popularity of Cleopatra and Amanirenas are reversed.
It's crazy cause I just watched your two old videos -- one animated -- about the mighty Queen Amanirenas. I appreciate that you delved deeper into the politics this time around. It's a crying shame that more people of African descent don't know anything about her.
“ Africans “ are not one people and the history of Nubia has absolutely nothing to do with tropical Africa. They didn’t know that Nubians even existed before early 20th century.
He needs to make more animated videos like that they are amazing.
Wished people would glorify her instead of Cleopatra
I do too, but with a lack of creativity and the woke message of Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general, it’s just easy to take European or white characters and make them sub-Sahara African or black.
@rafiqjennings5262
We get it, w h I t e y
Agreed
Why? Cleopatra was a legendary figure
@@isaiah7640 and of the queens were a legendary? Do you like to see remix of Cleopatra films done in the same in vain as with Batman and Spider-Man?
Great stuff as usual, Cleo lost but got all the flowers Queen Amenirenas won, hardly got any love, it's up to us to uphold her name and her incredible story, if only Netflix had gone in a different direction..😮💨
Cleo can't even hold a candle to Queen Injinga of Angola.❤❤❤
Cleopatra wishes she could troll the Romans the way this queen did. That Augustus head event always makes me laugh.
Love your channel❣️ Can you add a few maps to highlight the locations you’re discussing ? I pray that you’re developing a text book covering all the Africans and countries you discuss🙏🏽
Thank you for this
Incredibly credible history.
I love Queen Amanirenas's story!!!
Amanirenas' story needs a big screen treatment for real. If no one else writes it by the time I get rich, then I'll do it myself.
Great video. Queen Candace the Empress of Ethiopia. Alexander after conquering Egypt didn’t entertain the idea of going to war with her. Queen Candace rode in Elephant into Battle.
what is she.... Hannibal cousin?
Alexander had conquered most of the known world of that time . When he arrived in Egypt, he had created the greatest empire so far . He died a few years later . To pretend that Kingdom of Kush could’ve stopped Alexander is just a wishful thinking. His army was well trained to fight even in heat , experienced, determined and tactically very skillful. I know many black folks like to entertain themselves with idea that “ Nubians defeated Rome “ . The historical reality is that Rome never launched a mass attack on Nubians. This Queen just defeated a small Roman contingent located in the border
@@st3019 Says who?
@@lonniejackson5733 Historical records plus common sense
@@st3019 common sense or ignorance? I said prove it. I don’t care for your opinion. Reference a book that mentions what I wrote? I can.
I demand a MOVIE!!!!!
Greetings/from Ghana.. Sooooo good to get this video. Its been far too long!❤
Thanks for changing the font for the text, now I can read them clearly.
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Love this channel
Amanirenas didn’t have to give up no royal a$$ for the sake of her kingdom and country. She fought back against the mightiest nation on earth at that time, and prevailed.
We must also acknowledge the unheralded abilities of Meroe's soldiers. Cherry picking historians like to celebrate how deadly the Nubian archers were... but you didn't defeat Roman cohorts with only bows and arrows.
@@handl3869 what did they defeat them with……
@capoislamort100 They used infantry and cavalry as well as archers.
@@handl3869 I’ve always been curious about the martial and fighting abilities of the Nubians.
Because, some of the most awesome armies in history were not able to penetrate their borders. The Persians, Macedonians, the Greeks and Romans none of them managed to conquer them. Your point is well taken.
@@capoislamort100 You have to remember that none of these empires you mentioned did have any important goal to conquer Nubians. In reality, none of them did launch any massive attack on Nubia. Nubians in fact did not defeat a real organized army . It was a contingent of Egyptians under Roman rule which was defeated.
Cleo didnt wrap HERSELF in a rug naked and ship herself across the ocean, y'all.
I hope you get millions of subscribers.
Yes, hopefully someone will be able to interpret meroitc language and someone will take on making a movie.
I wonder if Cleopatra and Amanirenas would have known about each other? Would they have been friends, enemies, or neutral toward each other?
Cleopatra was of greek ancestry, being of the Ptolemaic dinasty. So , she identified more with the romans. Guess what... . I don't think she would be friends with a true african queen.
@laborincana4490 actually, she specifically made sure she incorporated herself with Egyptian culture by adopting the religion and customs of Egypt and not of Greece or Rome.
This question is why whenever someone talks about remaking ‘Anthony and Cleopatra: Starring Elizabeth Taylor’*, I wish they would frame it as a story being told from from someone’s POV.
Meroe would be a perfect POV to do, because casting and also you can do the “But now the Romans face us!” ending a la bit with the Southwestern Greeks all united against the Persians at the end of 300.
*Let’s be honest, nobody remaking the story of Cleopatra Philapater VII is looking to talk about her tax policies. They are all looking to capture soap operatic opulence of the 1960s Hollywood Movies and French Romantic Paintings, but “good” this time.
@@laborincana4490The Romans despite cribbing so much of their culture and religion from Greece, actually didn't think very highly of them, particularly the Ptolemies whom they considered decadent and Eastern; Cleo and her father were unpopular with a lot of their people due to them being friendly with Rome, though in both their cases that friendliness was strategic, and a way of fending off total conquest- Which as we know *did* happen with Cleo VII's death.
In all likelihood, the relationship between Kush and the Greeks was amicable. Cleopatra apparently had no hostility to Queen Amanirenas. This makes sense being that Alexander had conquered Egypt when it was controlled by the Persians. The Kushite Egyptian dynasties were long gone by the time the Greeks got there, so there was no documented belligerence between the Greeks and the Kushites, with the former being much more concerned about the Romans, which were never big fans of the Greek rulers. The Greeks wanted to be left alone to the point their rulers rarely left Alexandria. The Greeks adopted Egyptian customs and culture, so they wouldn't have been seen by the Kushites as particularly threatening. In fact, they would probably be unrecognizable to mainland Greeks at the time.
They may not have been allies, but they were far from enemies. They probably saw each other as trading partners. No more, no less.
Thank you
People often forget Prince Akinidath, Amanirenas son who fought against Roman commander Gaius Petronius in the Kushite-Egyptian border
Great research !!! Another hidden story… where Egypt… who’s never recognized as part of the African continent in many ways by the powers that be yet you have a story like this in the heart of the African continent
We must uncover are history ourselves Thank you.
i think people only like Cleopatra because they like how beautiful her name is, not because they know anything about her. They like Egypt on a surface level in general. People enjoy the fashion and the decadence and the unique names but nothing more. side note Cleopatra isn't even an Egyptian name, its Middle-Englished Greek.
Thank you for the education, maybe you need to get in contact with Netflix and show them the programmes they should be making for black history. New year's resolution to go through all your videos in 2024 and educate myself.
I thought Cleopatra was a greek queen. also, that dsynasty even in the expansion roman policy wasn't only problem but they did a poor job at basic upkeep of the country even though the wealth and knowlege was there.
She is
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Peace these nuts!!!
Time fi ah movie……Iyah!!!!
Can you do a video about Ezana or Menelik of Aksum/Ethiopia?
Africa is a big place.
What is ur beginning theme song? Need it 4 my (ringtone desperately) thanks to everything good for the (gifts/protection) the Black Man bless all with 💙💙💙
Thanks for honour ing Kandake Armanirenas. I have never understood the Black hype about Cleopatra. But then again as Cleo hopped into bed with European big players of course the focus is all on her. I only give her credits for having been the only Ptolemaic ruler who bothered to learn the indigenous language.
she did what cleo couldn't do...
I learned about this Queen a few months ago, she handed an imperial super power and one of the greatest Cesars a big fat L and stopped further Roman expansion into Africa. We need movies about her and don't need to black wash Cleopatra who was an INBRED descendant of Macedonian/Greek royalty and not really an African.
What stopped Roman expansion in inner Africa was not her but geography. In fact , Rome never launched any massive attack in territories below Egypt. This Nubian Queen just defeated a small contingent of Roman army .
@@st3019Please calm down😂 what you won't do is downplay the accomplishments of a true nubian queen just coz she defeated them Caucasian folks and was waaaay better than Cleopatra ever was😉
I heard a different perspective which was that the Kushites defeated the Romans and forced them to sign a treaty. The treaty that favored the Kushite terms and the Roman border was moved so it’s clear that the Kushites won this conflict. Roman propaganda be damned.
Can anyone recommend books about this story?
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please do sahel video to celebrate the new federation! thanks
Sahel means coast in Arabic. Is it the same in any lical language in Africa ?
Where are you from Sara?
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The only error in this video is that you keep showing the Netflix version of Cleopatra the 7th and not the historical pictures or paintings of her. It's just something that you have to correct and let go of, going forward.
Another issue is that the description of the video is empty. The name of the chick in your video isn't even listed on there. Like what the hell?
1 Mac 10:57-58....Cleopatra is Greek.
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Hollywood need to stop with their nonsense of giving Black/Middle Easterner/Asian and all of the non-whites of preexisting white/European characters & started adapting their own stories from their continent origins.
Egypt and Nubia are in two different geographical situations...Egypt had an exposure on the Mediterranean...Nubia,....Libya....and West Asia. Nubia didn't...
Cleopatra lived in Egypt so technically she was African, though not Black.
Africa ≠ All Black
Africsns=all black
Africa was = black/ brown people exclusively before invasion by foreign entities. Take for example ancient Egypt was invaded the Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, Persians so you can imagine the erasure of the original people, culture, traditions and customs happening over this different periods of time thus Cleo might have been biracial too. People(and I mean them white folks and Arabs) were mad at how Cleo was represented in the Netflix documentary but it was actually a more accurate representation of ancient Egypt during that time than what white supremacy tries to sell to us through their movies
@@meln704 I agree with what you assert here in the first part about Cleopatra being bi-racial.
But in reverse the backlash for the Netflix is a norm everywhere which is weird.
what if for example Martin Luther King Jr is played by an Asian or a white man, there would be all sorts of racist allegations to ever violence. so its not a very one sided world.
i know how people were fuming with just a rumor circulating that a fictional character "Black Panther" would be played by someone of Asian descent. If Black people have this kind of racial superiority then i can't just blame the white and brown and Indians for their racial superiority complex.
More than 90% of all crimes commited on Black people in the US are done by Black people but it gets unchecked but when someone from a different race does that "not even with a racial objective", he would be tossed into hell.
I am very neutral on racial issues. i find all to be extreme.
We are humans and should stay grounded to our core values at the end of the day.
@@meln704No, that Netfilx show was inaccurate garbage
@@nomercynodragonforyou9688 nope you're garbage 🗑️😂😂
Cleopatra was descended from the Greek rulers who conquered Egypt. We need to stop trying to claim her and celebrate the African women who resisted colonization
History is not defined just by genes . Africa is not a separated planet. Parts of Africa were racially and culturally related with Mediterranean civilizations and world.
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I absolutely despised Ptolemy and his fake greek egyptian lineage
Who are you to tell a dynasty that ruled Egypt as “ fake “ ?! And btw , the Nubian 25th dynasty was “ fake “ too .
The Kushites are the Kru people of Liberia and Ivory Coast.
no their not. Kushites live in the horn
@@StopTheLiess You know little. The original people from that land are the Kru or Klao people, named after Klaopatra of Egypt who later moved away and founded the Songhay Empire under Sonni Ali who was also a Kru man. The word Kru comes from the word KUSH, the land from which they came. They moved into the Sudanic lands when the Mamluks destroyed their lands and due to the fact that they were surrounded by Muslims. We're from the tribe of Benjamin and are the most Malitaristic people in history.
@@StopTheLiess The Kushites lived in Sudan not the horn.
@@AskiatheGreat64 no one in present day Sudan is a kushite or claims to be one. Only people in the horn are
@@StopTheLiess Lol, no, the Kingdom of Kush was located in present-day Sudan, you can go to Sudan today to see the Kushite Pyramids (300 of them) that were built thousands of years ago, unfortunately, there is a civil war going on in the country, so you may have to wait a bit longer.
She was in no way as impactful as cleopatra and I’m black btw
And Elvis Presley who stole black people's music was the best Rock n Roll artist to date, yip, white people can overhype everything and anything. We need to do our own research.
According to Woke Wikipedia she started the beef pre-emptively.
She was the same Candace who 9 years later in 36 AD the Ethiopian Eunuch was attached to, a queen of Meroe who is listed in the New Testament Book of Acts chapter 8.
Her effigy from a Meroe pyramid is not Nilotic nor Mediterranean looking.
She looks sorta biracial.
We don’t truly know what anyone looks like back in BC or AD times
The concept art "looks" biracial...?
she was black african period. Just like ancient egypt was until -525 B.C get over it
@@supahotjoe6493 But she wasn't. The Ptolemies were inbred Greek colonizers who ruled for about 3 centuries before Roman conquest.
And honestly, why this focus on Egypt, as though the rest of Africa didn't boast great Black royalty?
@@supahotjoe6493 You cannot talk rubbish here “ Egypt was black before 525 “ and then try to get over it by saying “ get over it “ !
The problem is that there is not a shred of evidence whatsoever to prove that any black/negroid Egypt even existed. There was never any black African population as native population anywhere outside of subsaharan Africa. This “ black/negroid Egypt “is just a fabricated fairytale of 20th century.
historical growth is understanding that mark antonio was the good guy who loved eastern and african culture more than western and wanted to fight for it
What are you smoking
But got with a white girl
please explain how im wrong? instead of giving a typical ignorant answer@@alkebulanawah4242
mark antonio was a white roman. no one will take us seriously if you dont know basic facts. having black pride does not mean ignorance. Catch up@@bri1085
if you two are black, please remember to read history book (from reliable afrocentric sources) rather than getting all your info from youtube. Ignorance does not help any cause :) be blessed
It's true Cleopatra was party Greek.Historian failed to knowledge her mother was Nubian African descent.Cleopatra skin tone would be much darker,just the woman who played her in the Netix series.Not like Elizabeth Taylor.
Her mom wasn't Nubian, she was a full blood Egyptian. So no Cleopatra shouldn't have dark skin, at all.
“Historians failed to knowledge her mother was Nubian descent “ ?! Well, fabricated fairytales of J. H. Clarke and I. Van Sertima are not historical sources.
There’s no evidence her mother being Nubian at all.
Cleopatra was Egyptian which is african they looked african with african features just look at the statues thats why they shot there noses off before the land was conquered stop lying cleo did not look European
Cleopatra was not sub-Saharan Africa. Roman coins and busts don’t lie. Let it go.
doesnt matter, all the others were. And NONE of them looked like you. STAY JEALOUS! WE LOVE TO SEE IT! The truth is out already
I hope you meant Greek, since her coins were made in the Greek style, as she and her dynasty were notoriously VERY (inbred) Greek.
@@reneedailey1696 thanks, yes.
@@rafiqjennings5262what about Amanirenas, what did she look like??
@@Howardstwein912 if it didn’t matter, you wouldn’t have responded. I don’t need people of other races to look like me to have self-validation.
And we can’t say all others were black because a couple Egyptian mummies discovered look very European.
If you put as much effort into starting a small business as you do looking for traces of slight, you will be wealthy my friends.
look to your own borders and economy, they are crumbling
Cope harder
without Egypt what ya blacks gonna boast about lol.. that how bad black achievements are.. we in 2023 and still depend on the rest of us for technology lol
Ah yes, the brainless troll of this comment section.
We always need a brainless troll.
What rubbish on these channels sad thing people believe all this rubbish
She has nothing on Elizabeth I
Catherine the Great, the Empress Suiko
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Empress Theodora just a few that people actually heard of