Ultralight Gravel Fender Vs. Death Mud: Ass Savers Win Wing Review

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  • The new Ass Savers Win Wing is an ultralight, four-piece fender with a unique mounting system, and it grabbed our attention when it was launched earlier this fall. But with its compact and lightweight design, can it hold up to the death mud found in Colorado's high desert? Neil puts it to the test to find out in our latest video review.
    Also find the written review here: bikepacking.com/gear/ass-save...
    This video was supported by Salsa Cycles. Learn more about the Salsa Cycles Journeyer Here: www.salsacycles.com/bikes/roa...
    Outline
    Intro: 0:00
    Specs: 0:56
    Install: 2:52
    Riding: 3:33
    Final Thoughts: 6:12
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  • @bikingnomadph
    @bikingnomadph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks sleek and more effective... thank you for sharing!

  • @jeffreyrule8143
    @jeffreyrule8143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and get well soon. Ride On.

  • @jasonisaac1
    @jasonisaac1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review. I appreciate the minimal design of the Win Wing, but still getting the job done. I’ve had good results using a Mudhuggers rear gravel fender with home made velcro straps. Can switch easily between my 700c wheel gravel bike, and 27.5” dirt drop bike. The Mudhuggers front gravel fender works well on my dirt drop bike, but doesn’t fit the 700c gravel bike.

  • @Gravelmisfit_
    @Gravelmisfit_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing review! I’m ordering mine today for my gravel. I hate hate hate my seat post mount rear fender.

  • @michaelrowave
    @michaelrowave ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a clever solution for super chonky wide tires if you live somewhere you may only need occasionally being easy to install/remove and also seems like it would work on full suspension.

  • @Windingify
    @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got these on both my street s.s. and my gravel/travel steed. They work flawlessly. Paired with the Speed Mullet, they are awesome.

    • @michaelrowave
      @michaelrowave ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just checked out their website and at the very bottom it says "Made in a very rainy place" - which happens to be Sweden! It finally rained in California last week but I have not needed mud flaps once since 2017. Great company name too.

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelrowave I live in CPH, right next to Sweden, lots of rain. 🤙🏼

  • @dmtysnsskkei
    @dmtysnsskkei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for the review. I personally am rather concerned about preventing mud from getting into front derailleur, which seems to be partially solved with this fender.

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mudgaurds are great! I have made a set of full length ones for my full suspension- I can ride full days in mud and rain and the bike and I will be completely clean and fresh.

  • @tuftschristopher
    @tuftschristopher ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dad's never apologize for dad jokes. That's like dad 101

    • @Galiuros
      @Galiuros ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How do you know when you've heard a Dad Joke?
      It's apparent.

  • @swolla1040
    @swolla1040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's pretty dope!

  • @josearcurimartins
    @josearcurimartins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It also works great on protecting your rear lights and radars, keeps everything clean

  • @johnpetrus3277
    @johnpetrus3277 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are those two tone shorts? (5:30)

  • @eriyamagenki
    @eriyamagenki ปีที่แล้ว

    とても参考になりました。ありがとう!
    It was very helpful. thank you!

  • @MrBolonio
    @MrBolonio ปีที่แล้ว

    do we have to buy two version? its Road/Gravel compatible ?

  • @mrfester42
    @mrfester42 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now they should make one for the front tire!

  • @br5380
    @br5380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks. Bought one for the gravel bike.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve used it over the winter and it works really well, keeps me clean, weighs bu99er all and stays in place.
      Recommended

    • @johncognac333
      @johncognac333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me2😊

  • @Meowriano
    @Meowriano ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I dont get it, if yall have bikes that can accept full fenders, like most gravel bikes with mounting points everywhere, just ride full fenders…. They work, and look better. Its a win win.

    • @Freestyler913
      @Freestyler913 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought CAnyon fenders aluminium (60€) for my canyon Grizl, I never installed them fully because It has play that can/will damage the frame because the screws get to loose at some point; and they are definitly worth the value. I'm looking for more light and easy setup.

    • @x111sam
      @x111sam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All well and good in wet weather. They are awful when your tyre begins picking up mud, leaves and sticks off the floor though.
      I use SKS Speedrockers currently, but I’m looking at these to replace them based on the above.

  • @SamA-xu9gy
    @SamA-xu9gy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For mudguard or defender
    Is it supposed to be close or far from the wheel?
    What is the best position and angle for it?

  • @kyleburns2445
    @kyleburns2445 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review, subscribed, just ordered one myself. Hate the look of metal fenders and despite being in the PNW, I want to a set that I can pop off easy peasy.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the support! I think you will like it!

  • @JarosawTabor
    @JarosawTabor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying that the cost-to-make to price ratio is just mindblowing :)

    • @pedalingnowhere
      @pedalingnowhere ปีที่แล้ว +8

      R&D, design, engineering, materials research, marketing, etc. All hidden costs.

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pedalingnowhere second that 100%

  • @lowdesertpunk
    @lowdesertpunk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use the Ass Savers Fendor Bendor on my Karate Monkey and this wishbone thingie looks like it could prevent it from flopping around in strong wind or hard hits in technical terrain. Do you think it might fit if I just punched three holes in the Fendor Bendor? The Win Wing alone looks too floppy for mountain biking.

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว

      The idea is that it moves with the stuff that hits the weel when out in the wild. It will work fine for MTB.

    • @cheekysaurus
      @cheekysaurus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Windingify will it work on a full sus mtb?

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheekysaurus think so.

  • @g.d.1722
    @g.d.1722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about a front wheel fender? And also, the exposed section from the seat stays to the seat tube means wet and mud on your heels as you pedal.... No bueno for long rides in the wet, or bike packing/touring

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว

      They make the Speed Mullet for the front. Works great as well.

  • @pavithren
    @pavithren ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review and punny ending to the video :)

  • @stefanotf8230
    @stefanotf8230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great minimal design from Sweden! Easy to pack when not in use. Going to give a try asap!

    • @Windingify
      @Windingify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DO! I love mine 🤙🏼

  • @FadingDuch
    @FadingDuch ปีที่แล้ว

    But how do you keep it from sliding down? Couple of curb drops and there is no 5-10 millimeters but 0 to 1.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      It never moved on me, it has a rubbery side that sticks to the seatstay.

  • @totoabicyclette7100
    @totoabicyclette7100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what is the use of an "ultralight" mud guard on a bike that gets covered with mud anyway?
    you save two ounces there but then the frame itself collects a whole pound of dirt in less than a mile
    portnawak

  • @paulmarks5800
    @paulmarks5800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did your garmin varia stay mud free?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that was a big test, it worked perfectly.

  • @grigoryrechistov3040
    @grigoryrechistov3040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am also currently laying down away from bikes,with fever and sore throat. It should get better by the weekend though.
    Get well!

  • @SebaStian-zx5ux
    @SebaStian-zx5ux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26' tyre maybe?

  • @802redwood
    @802redwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it keep the saddle bag clean too?

  • @mendyviola
    @mendyviola ปีที่แล้ว

    I need me one of those! Tired of having a “butt racing stripe” after riding through mud puddles.

  • @finks1
    @finks1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any idea if there is a fat tire version in the works?

    • @chris_noswe
      @chris_noswe ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubt it. They didn't make one before the Win-Wing so they'll probably will never make one.

    • @grigoryrechistov3040
      @grigoryrechistov3040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having one for 3 inch tires would be awesome. The classic saddle mounted clip-on fenders are crap as they are, and Mudhugger-like arches interfere with externally routed cables along the seatstays.

    • @danieljstad
      @danieljstad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fat tire ”scene” is not that big in Sweden

  • @SuperEightOneEight
    @SuperEightOneEight ปีที่แล้ว

    nice design...but not my cake..full fender was just working great for me for almost 45 years of riding.....

  • @Incorruptus1
    @Incorruptus1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmm...I tested it as well. It totally is and looks flimsy. Yet yes it worked fine, yet I could not get over it's look, it's well making it look flimsy. Yet still interesting product. With rough wind it gets a bit flimsier still. So I ripped it off again and call it a parts box filler now. Ass savers also this one is not really an enduring choice. But yet it functions for the time when forgetting a fender, the moment I bought this one was when already on the road while looking for a quick fix. Cheap and does the job for a season.

  • @neilgoth1974
    @neilgoth1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only thing holding me back on this is that my shift and brake housings run along the top of the seatstays.

    • @nerfherderdavid
      @nerfherderdavid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It should matter as the rubber straps will accomodate the hoses/cables housing no problems

    • @neilgoth1974
      @neilgoth1974 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerfherderdavidThanks. that's good to know.

  • @Whoami12000
    @Whoami12000 ปีที่แล้ว

    downforce?

  • @adamnovina2139
    @adamnovina2139 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made something similiar few years ago. Actually i made couple of them after tests, i rejected the less efficient and the one that was close to winnwing 😎

  • @bramblejazz5940
    @bramblejazz5940 ปีที่แล้ว

    Death mud. New band named bagsies

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta hand it to cycling to always be reinventing what already works great - making a worse but more "compact" or "unique" solution.

    • @blahqwe
      @blahqwe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, hello there 'gravel' bike.

  • @riskyrax
    @riskyrax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no mention or testing in actual rain? I'll bet ya still get that rooster tail commuting. more plastic please

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I commuted in heavy wet snow with a warm ground, basically the same as rain.

  • @jonasmeiner5007
    @jonasmeiner5007 ปีที่แล้ว

    No thanks, the mudhugger is way more riggid and lightweight as well. Stays on all the time

  • @Lenasko
    @Lenasko ปีที่แล้ว

    mus guard over everything

  • @ellerybice3787
    @ellerybice3787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🚴🏼🚴🏼🚴🏼🫡

  • @tmayberry7559
    @tmayberry7559 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet someone with ingenuity could DIY a US version of the win-wing for less than $25 I for example have a DIY mudguard constructed from a 2 L water bottle that extends over the entire Tire no matter the size and can be attached to the bike via seatpost using a rear reflector mount. I call it the invisible mud guard because when you're looking at it you don't see it I have even come up with a version that you can attach to a rear pennier wreck to cover the spray from the water and mud being thrown out the underside of the rack and is still flung onto your trunk bag or your back side

  • @v1ncen715
    @v1ncen715 ปีที่แล้ว

    low price is nice, low weight too, but it is too flimsy, I ll keep my mudhugger.

  • @123jouable
    @123jouable ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So it's a flimsy plasticy flop flapper. Why not just take the time to install proper fenders, at least if you're on a rigid gravel bike?
    I've used quite a few of these quick-install disposable fenders and it's always the same; When it's raining and you have it on there, OK, it somewhat works. Then the next day it's dry and the fender flap is useless and looks ugly, so you take it off. But, because it's all muddy from when it was raining, you don't want to put it in your bag or whatever, so you just throw it into the corner of the shed and then bam, next time you're out and it starts raining, you don't have the thing with you.
    I guess maybe if you have like a full sus mountain bike as your only bike, and you want to commute on it, this could have some use

  • @sztigirigi
    @sztigirigi ปีที่แล้ว

    FFS. There is as solution since 100 years. It's called mudguards.

  • @cjohnson3836
    @cjohnson3836 ปีที่แล้ว

    @6:42 but is it Västerbotten

  • @playmoreguitar5393
    @playmoreguitar5393 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Salsa still make the Spearfish and do they even have any stock around the world? I sent them a message and an email.. Silence..... I see they just want to sell Cutthroats :/

  • @jimieljoseph2322
    @jimieljoseph2322 ปีที่แล้ว

    Protects the rider, not so much the bike.