18 Years Later, I Finally Understand The Prestige

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  • @guytypeperson
    @guytypeperson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +707

    I always saw The Prestige as a story about self destructive obsession with competition and success, how far that can drive you, and how it can prevent you from seeing the forest for the trees. These are two men who destroyed their lives, because they couldn't stop trying to one-up each other. They were willing to pay anything to win. They had so much talent and potential, and they squandered it on an obsessive and brutal rivalry, in spite of having every opportunity to just.... not.

    • @wastedinspiration
      @wastedinspiration 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Add in a dash of revenge and grief and I agree!

    • @Schregger
      @Schregger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, honestly, thats what I took away from it. And im not sure who was really the one that was driving it. Angier for causing Borden to lose a finger, or Borden for ruining Angier bird cage trick afterwards.

    • @nerovondoom6298
      @nerovondoom6298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thats accurate to movie and novel. Theres many layers to the story.

    • @fenris225
      @fenris225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      The truth is Borden and Angier were the birds smashed in the cage all along.

    • @paulgarcia6259
      @paulgarcia6259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I don't see it like that at all. I saw it as a deconstruction of what it takes to be famous, successful, and an artist. It doesn't matter if you are the most talented, if you can't capture the public. The other part of it is what it takes to be a real artist. Giving your full life for art. I loved the part where Christian Bale tries to explain to Hugh Jackman, that the real act is the old man pretending to be frail, and it goes over his head.

  • @qjames0077
    @qjames0077 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +829

    It's not about the destination, it's about the top hats we made a long the way

    • @richrent
      @richrent 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Glad you were able to spare us the time of getting to the heart of the message.

    • @SnarkNSass
      @SnarkNSass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂

    • @winterhaydn
      @winterhaydn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡 🎩 💡

    • @thesequelvintage
      @thesequelvintage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Reading this in Michael Cera's voice has improved my day, thank you

    • @mortensweet
      @mortensweet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brilliant

  • @MrJackWorse
    @MrJackWorse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    A bit off topic but Bowie as Tesla is the best cameo in cinema history imho.

    • @minirth.maggie
      @minirth.maggie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I legit jumped a mile, it was so perfect!

    • @KingClovis
      @KingClovis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, I loved that when I saw it in the theater!

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Not technically a cameo, he’s a supporting character. He’s got a fair bit of screen time and spoken dialogue, far more than a cameo appearance would entail. Like Stan Lee in the marvel movies is a cameo. Sorry for the pedantry.

    • @Thevillagebrother
      @Thevillagebrother 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I personally didn’t realize it until the second time I saw it. I was like “Oh shit!! That’s David Bowie! Lol

    • @trrrmac
      @trrrmac 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bowie as Warhol too.

  • @billmozart7288
    @billmozart7288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +365

    I think The Prestige is Nolan's finest work

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Like the best magic it's the least understood.
      When I try to explain the truth all I get is anger. Anger I get. Ignorance is hard to understand.

    • @GriboedovAnton
      @GriboedovAnton 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fgoindarkg why waste your time on such people then?

    • @travisbeeman7506
      @travisbeeman7506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What about the guy who wrote the book first..?..

    • @billmozart7288
      @billmozart7288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@travisbeeman7506 I was unaware it was a book first. That doesn't surprise me, and I'm sure that you're right

    • @travisbeeman7506
      @travisbeeman7506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billmozart7288 It is one of the rare instances where I thought the movie was as good as the book... and one of my favorite movies. Just want to get Christopher Priest his creative credit :)

  • @graphthis2249
    @graphthis2249 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    I like how the movie itself foreshadows Tesla as a real wizard, indicating that science is the real magic of the story.

    • @Hppyhppy2
      @Hppyhppy2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Science was always the magic of magic. From flash powder, to intricate physics needed for complex tasks, to the biology needed to know how fast your hand can move to the physicology of the audience. The game of magic has always been the game of science. Only scientific precision after all can be used when deathly accurate stakes are on the line. Mirrors are a form of optics. Name a magic trick and I’ll name the schools of science necessary to under for the trick to work. Inventing a new trick requires a new insight into science. David blane was interested in the science of holding breath and used modern technology for his breath holding trick. The trick is the application of the new technology it’s the hook to get people wanting to know more. They want to know how it’s done so they can do it

    • @easilytrackableinternethum3018
      @easilytrackableinternethum3018 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Or Andy Serkis is the wizard and Tesla is the actual assistant.

    • @acupanraphaelgio7925
      @acupanraphaelgio7925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@easilytrackableinternethum3018 that would make the "tesla" clue make sense

    • @MorganEdgy
      @MorganEdgy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think "foreshadows" is the adequate word, more like "frames".

    • @SusannaSaunders
      @SusannaSaunders 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a scientist myself I guess I can echo that science is often the vehicle that takes us where we don't expect to go.

  • @PhantomFilmAustralia
    @PhantomFilmAustralia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +431

    Did you catch the twist that Lord Caldlow isn't Robert Angier's alias. Robert Angier is Lord Caldlow's alias. Angier's wife stated to Robert that he was playing someone else, where he replied that he would not embarrass his family with his theatrical endeavours. He is also independently wealthy, and stated to Tesla for making his machine that "Price is not an object."
    At the end of the film, Robert Angier revealed his true identity with his true accent. An English lord from the prestigious Caldlow family.
    BORDEN: "You must be Lord Cal..."
    ANGIER: "'Caldlow.' Yes, I am. I always have been."

    • @seppyq3672
      @seppyq3672 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      I've seen this movie so many times and never realized that. 😂

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Finally someone else gets it! This is why Caldlow quickly called Chung Ling Su’s act.

    • @ShedALight
      @ShedALight 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Omg how did I missed this 😂

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      @@ShedALight Caldlow is the Prestige. The viewers are tricked from the opening shots in Colorado and with every word uttered in an American accent. Caldlow’s real accent only slips once, during his wife’s accident.

    • @jeremyarcus-goldberg9543
      @jeremyarcus-goldberg9543 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@JoJoJokerwhen he reads about it in the journal “he doesn’t know?!”

  • @bigbitehood1353
    @bigbitehood1353 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +689

    Batman Vs Wolverine:
    The Clone Wars

    • @dustenekoes28
      @dustenekoes28 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      😂

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Or…
      The Black Widow Deception

    • @to819
      @to819 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Okay but like, why is that so accurate?

    • @elensila74
      @elensila74 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is pure genius 😄

    • @kevmasengale6903
      @kevmasengale6903 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Begun the clone wars, have.

  • @quocanhnguyen7275
    @quocanhnguyen7275 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +291

    I just realized that Angier can literally just do what the Borden twins does for their magic trick the first time he clone himself

    • @Virjunior01
      @Virjunior01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fucked.

    • @TheVampireAzriel
      @TheVampireAzriel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      He could have if he hadn't scared the shit out of himself doing it and went down the path of self-murder. 😅

    • @dargossss
      @dargossss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      You have to remember that he didn't want to share the fame and glory, he reluctantly used the drunk double because he couldn't figure out Borden's trick, and tried his best to absorb the praise of the crowd while he was under the stage.

    • @TheVampireAzriel
      @TheVampireAzriel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@dargossss true, but two hims might have understood it and switched places every night. Anyway, Angier was an entitled dope in general.

    • @quiddityocean
      @quiddityocean 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I always wondered which of the original or the clone is killed every show. Does the machine create a clone a few feet away or does it transport the subject and leave a copy in the original place ? At the same time is there such thing as an original or a clone, if the clone is exactly the same with all the memory, and thoughts, can we say it’s a mere copy ?

  • @Klubvids
    @Klubvids 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Michael Caine's character tells you the truth all the way through. One of the best films ever.

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The same in Inception. He's never in a dream world.

    • @eriktempelman2097
      @eriktempelman2097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ... but in Interstellar, he's the one telling the Big Lie.

    • @DrBallSac
      @DrBallSac 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      HE LIES ABOUT SALIORS DROWNING

    • @thebatman2837
      @thebatman2837 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Initially...then he tells the truth.​@@DrBallSac

    • @TheJamesM
      @TheJamesM หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also love how the kid at the beginning crying about the bird (something to the effect of "But what about his brother?") is foreshadowing both of the twists: first, that transportation illusiob is achieved by (in the eyes of the boy) an identical brother, and second, that it's achieved by killing the original.

  • @vonneely1977
    @vonneely1977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    Ironic how the bird trick at the very start is a foreshadowing of Angier's teleportation trick later in the film. They both rely on killing the original, hiding the body and then replacing it with a double.

    • @lukasb2790
      @lukasb2790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for repeating what every mediocre movie Essay says

    • @pdcdesign9632
      @pdcdesign9632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lukasb2790 If I ever read another post about "foreshadowing" in a movie review I'm going to throw up. 😬🤮

    • @kennywilkinson913
      @kennywilkinson913 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@pdcdesign9632Must be a sad existence for you 2 to both hate life so much.
      You have my pity

    • @pdcdesign9632
      @pdcdesign9632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kennywilkinson913 Did I hit a nerve there?

    • @-Olea-
      @-Olea- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it also goes incredibly wrong, mauling the original bird and breaking fingers in the process

  • @mookerz1383
    @mookerz1383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    One crazy trick this movie is still pulling on its viewers, is the illusion that this story was between two magicians, Borden and Angier. This movie was about 3 magicians, Borden 1, Borden 2, and Angier. I love rewatching this movie and being able to pick out when we're watching the aggressive, obsessive, competitive Borden who loved Olivia, and the much more compassionate Borden who fell in love with Sarah.

    • @LokRevenant
      @LokRevenant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Albert is the compassionate one who loved Sarah. Frederick is the engineer who loved Olivia.
      Al+Fred=Alfred

    • @NajarinPrime
      @NajarinPrime 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      More like Borden 1, Borden 2, and Angier 5,361 🤣

    • @dominiquewilson
      @dominiquewilson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Pretty sure the movie made that clear when it broke down how the twins would switch places and basically live eachother’s life. Especially the parts where he asks what knot he tied and sometimes he said he doesn’t know and other times he doesn’t say anything. Thats literally the entire twist of the movie and you’re acting like it’s some secret lol

    • @mookerz1383
      @mookerz1383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@dominiquewilson Nah, I mean like how even years later after the movie, even in this video they constantly get referred to as "Borden and Angier". When we talk about them we refer to them as 2 people, subconsciously maybe, even though we're talking about 3 people.

    • @cherkovision
      @cherkovision 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What's really clever about that is that, for most of the movie, you don't know which to cheer for since Borden seems to go back and forth between being a sympathetic character and being an asshole.

  • @mynock250
    @mynock250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Such a great idea, i personally think the Prestige is so underrated.

    • @adopequeenatyrantkingaboss8057
      @adopequeenatyrantkingaboss8057 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree, but it's not a movie for the casual watcher.

    • @Stakker
      @Stakker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Took me way too long to watch it but so happy i did. Amazingly layered film.

    • @OlYables
      @OlYables 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think about this movie all the time - something I can’t say about 99% of other movies I’ve seen. For that reason alone, it’s a classic movie for me.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read the book.

  • @Artanoma
    @Artanoma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    One thing that I finally cottoned on to after years of watching this movie is the opening monologue.
    "We were two young men at the start of a promising career..."
    We're meant to think this means Borden and Angier. But since it's Borden narrating it, it actually refers to... Borden and Fallon.

    • @redshirtwookiee
      @redshirtwookiee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      What a great observation. I never thought of it that way but wow you're exactly right.

  • @etoduarte
    @etoduarte 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    One of a few movies where multiple rewatches are *required*

    • @darrennew8211
      @darrennew8211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One of maybe 3 movies so excellently disturbing that I will never watch them again. :-)

    • @littlewicky1
      @littlewicky1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who directed the other movies I wonder! 😂

    • @cedricwork1670
      @cedricwork1670 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@littlewicky1 lol exactly. That's a Christopher Nolan trademark. Every singly movie I've watched always has the reveal at the end that colours the entire movie through a new lens, forcing you to have to rewatch to catch everything as an easter egg that it was hinting at from the very beginning. It's sort of like a one-trick-pony template, but he executes it so well.
      Memento
      Inception
      Interstellar
      To name a few....

  • @X_TheHuntsman_X
    @X_TheHuntsman_X 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I think something everyone glosses over here is that if Huge Jacked Man used that machine just once to create a clone, then he could've done the trick that American Psycho twinsies were pulling off the whole time, but instead he opted for mass murdering himself.

    • @Pazaluz
      @Pazaluz หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a big difference though between a having a twin brother you grew up with, and suddenly having an exact clone of yourself in your 40's. Both you and your clone will believe to be you, this will bring a lot of complications and dangers for yourself. Who knows what the clone gets into his head? You have no control over his mind. he could mess things up in your name, and you will be held responsible. Also if people ever find out there are 2 you's running around, you have some serious explaining to do xD

    • @SusannaSaunders
      @SusannaSaunders 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And there in lies the flaw in the movie... He would surely have been aware of that option once he duplicated himself and so the plot has its obvious flaw... At that point I thought the movie had - lost the plot...

  • @MartyMcTube
    @MartyMcTube 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    This movie has the greatest cameo role entrance I've ever seen.

    • @defiantaichi
      @defiantaichi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Right ? And one first watch I didnt even realise who it was. And he fits sooooo well

  • @TheRetroEngine
    @TheRetroEngine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Just take a moment to remember Christopher Priest, the author of the novel this was built from. RIP.

    • @justanotheryoutubeaccount2270
      @justanotheryoutubeaccount2270 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Rest in peace, Christopher Priest. Thanks for reminding about him; it's probably been 20 years since I stumbled upon one of his novels, The Inverted World, at a local library, and was fascinated by it. I've read at least one of his much more recent novels set in the Dream Archipelago (The Gradual, I think it was.)

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And also raise a glass to Mr. David Bowie as well.

    • @rjmacready9828
      @rjmacready9828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The book sucks, the movie is a million times better

  • @ericm3327
    @ericm3327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The absolute best touch is the show promoters and trick creators who see the trick and become terrified and talk about how they don’t often see real magic. Because they know full well what misdirection and illusion can and can’t accomplish

    • @brianlane723
      @brianlane723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That and Cutter walking past Borden at the end. I really want to know what went on between them.

    • @oxtailsoup6493
      @oxtailsoup6493 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The implication being that in some snowy cliff in Nepal, or some overgrown jungle in west Africa he has seen something he knew couldn’t be explained away as mere illusion…

  • @zqxzqxzqx1
    @zqxzqxzqx1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    I'm reminded of Arthur C. Clarke's quote; "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
    Re: Wanting to be fooled, I find that most people don't want to know, but rather, to THINK they know.

    • @abuanderson7878
      @abuanderson7878 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The real illusion is believing that magical phenomenon and explainable phenomenon are at odds. Magic is the product of intelligence.

    • @CordeliaWagner1999
      @CordeliaWagner1999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You both Sound like Dunning Kruger

    • @NelsonStJames
      @NelsonStJames 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And if they ever do come to know, they will hate you for letting them know.

    • @abuanderson7878
      @abuanderson7878 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@CordeliaWagner1999 may you evermore rest assured that you are the smartest person in the room.

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      most people don't want to know, but rather, to THINK they know
      Isnt that the same thing?Knowing ISN"T thinking?

  • @RedCatHabitat
    @RedCatHabitat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I unsubscribed from that other channel you used to be on because I didn't like that dude who took over after you. I'm very happy to have stumbled back into your work. Subbed and happy to hear your thoughts once more!

  • @Edowin-jz2sj
    @Edowin-jz2sj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is my favorite Nolan movie and one of my all-time favorites. There is SO much packed into this movie. The theme of duality is peppered throughout in so many different ways in addition to the characters' obsessions. I guessed the "twin" reveal on my first watch based on Borden's reaction to Fallon's burial as Fallon had to be someone very dear to him, then connecting to Borden's comments about sacrifice, Cutter's insistence that Borden uses a double, and finally, Sarah's description of Borden's radical changes in behavior. To me, I was actually more fascinated by Borden's reveal than Angier's scientific discoveries.

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The book does a good job of making the twin seem less possible. It is also Angier's thought on it and he goes through much trouble trying to prove there is a twin. In the end he can't prove it and comes to the conclusion there can not be a twin because it would just not be possible for two men to live one life without anyone figuring it out. In the novel, even his wife only figures it out after many years.

    • @Edowin-jz2sj
      @Edowin-jz2sj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johngaltline9933 Wow, I'm glad to hear the book delves deeper into the twin reveal and I might just have to read it now🤔

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Edowin-jz2sj it's worth a read. major plot points are mostly the same, but there's some extra stuff and some things different, plus a whole extra story.

    • @1Chasg
      @1Chasg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought Fallon was a clone. I knew it was Christian early on because it was rather odd how the character never spoke and they concealed his face alot, despite him always being around

  • @matheusmterra
    @matheusmterra 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I finally found you! You were the reason I subscribed to Wisecrack, and without you I haven't been enjoying that at all. Good to find your channel!

  • @Pancakes4everyone42
    @Pancakes4everyone42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Now I gotta watch this again. A great movie

  • @AnthonyRusso93
    @AnthonyRusso93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    "Abracadabra" *breaks neck*

    • @andrewkim6037
      @andrewkim6037 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was such a boss line.

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aveda cadabra
      *washes hair*

  • @oregonvibez
    @oregonvibez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    So wild that this was uploaded today as I've been on a prestige youtube binge rabbit hole all morning now this pops in my feed 😂❤🎉

  • @jeremyb96301
    @jeremyb96301 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    great video...i always find it hard to have conversations about philosophical topics, but this always gives me new ideas to evaluate

  • @StandAsYouAre
    @StandAsYouAre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Both main characters were willing to kill their souls bit by bit to be the top of their field. Thank goodness that one of the Borden twins, the twin who actually loved his family knew when it had to stop.
    Imagine putting your trust in your identical twin brother to treat the wife well. And he drives her to such a low she can’t live with herself anymore. Between the two twins, who was the dominate one and who was the subservient one?
    Was the twin who fell in love and got married to Sarah the dominant twin, and his brother was lashing out being so open about his relationship with Olivia.
    Or was the twin who married Sarah subservient and the dominant twin let him have the relationship to keep him happy and on side for their career. That is until Olivia came along and the dominant twin could use her.
    Poor Sarah being gaslight, and driven to despair. She didn’t figure it out herself in time. But she knew when she was told ‘I love you’ when it was true and when it wasn’t.

    • @michaelpowers6551
      @michaelpowers6551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’ll definitely never understand why these twins just never let their loved ones in on the secret. Just seem shady and mean spirited at this point. I mean yea you run the risk of the secret getting but that’s marriage you just go with the flow.
      I’m also not even sure why the other brother ever needed to be near his wife. He should have been the one to go home to her every night.
      They both just came off as selfish. I wonder if either of them ever felt any guilt for what they did to Jackmans wife. I definitely felt the ‘colder’ brother didn’t give any shits lol…

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@michaelpowers6551 It's easy. They loved their art more than their loved ones. Being twins was a secret they didn't want to share to anyone.

  • @Winteramen
    @Winteramen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this take. We do often demystify very wonderous things because our desire to feel we know.

  • @presterknot
    @presterknot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    just scrolling through my recommendations and damn this is a really good video, instant sub

  • @jamesholland720
    @jamesholland720 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jared this is brilliant. Thank you for sharing this

  • @tommylakindasorta3068
    @tommylakindasorta3068 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very wise insights at the end. You took it beyond the text. Great video.

  • @danzigvssartre
    @danzigvssartre หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tesla’s market value: another example of the power of illusion (and enchantment with the Stockmarket).

  • @YakoTheGoat
    @YakoTheGoat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of my favorite movies. Glad to see it still being discussed. Excellent review.

  • @gabrielafonseca4034
    @gabrielafonseca4034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    One of my favorite movies. It just never ceases to amaze me

    • @quiddityocean
      @quiddityocean 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed ! It’s also one of the rare instances where the film is better than the book, dispite the respect I have for Chritopher Priest, the author.

  • @Palemagpie
    @Palemagpie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Me and a buddy once got stoned, watched the prestige, discussed it afterwards. Got so heated and annoyed at the others lack of understanding. That we had to rewatch the entire movie.

  • @brendonohagan1946
    @brendonohagan1946 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can re-watch this anytime its on. Great film

  • @RobStevens64
    @RobStevens64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Something I hadn’t noticed until my umpteenth watch is that because of the way the Tesla machine seems to work, the original copy stays in the machine, while the copy is the one that is ‘transported.’ (In fact, this makes sense, otherwise the machine would be doing two things at one, both cloning the original and teleporting the original, rather than just creating the clone at some distance away.)
    But … I don’t think Angier ever really understood how the machine worked. The man frustrated by being under the stage for the applause at the end of his trick ends up killing himself upon the very first night of performing the trick (not the demo, the clone is killed that time). Now there’s an argument to be made that if they have the same memories, maybe it doesn’t matter, but the reality is that the original Angier is gone long before the end of the film, clones continuing the feud because it’s just what they do at this point.

    • @Mikewee777
      @Mikewee777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That explains the increasing brain-rot between the rivals .

    • @crawdad
      @crawdad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Angier says in the film that he doesn’t even know who comes out the other end and who drowns.
      But at this point it doesn’t matter. Just like you said, the need to be the best overrides everything to the point where, as you said, the clones perpetuate the desire to be the best because in the end, it doesn’t matter who drowns or who lives…
      …Angier’s ambition continues.

    • @tomtech1537
      @tomtech1537 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've always interpreted "who" dies as being ambiguous as Borden says "not knowing whether he's the one taking the bow or drowning in the tank below the stage". I think this plays into the mirroring between Angiers and Borden that occurs throughout the movie with the theme on who is the "real" Borden

    • @Here_is_Waldo
      @Here_is_Waldo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I always thought he knew he would drown, but he did it deliberately out of guilt for drowning the lady from earlier.

    • @tomtech1537
      @tomtech1537 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Here_is_Waldo interesting, I didn't even think of the link to Angiers wife... The tank is quite a deliberate choice... I'm sure he could have created something less painful... Although maybe it's because of Alfred talking about drowning earlier in the movie how it's peaceful...

  • @saltybrackishfresh
    @saltybrackishfresh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Real Magic is in Frequency and Vibration, as Nikola Tesla said😉

  • @djkramnik1
    @djkramnik1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I last saw the movie I kept thinking about carl jung's shadow. There are a bunch of dualities in the movie -- the obvious one being Borden and his twin, one the ambitious obsessive one, the other the family man. but the same duality seems to exist in Angier, with his love for his deceased wife, but later obsession and admittance that 'I don't care about my wife'. And the fact that the teleporter duplicates, not teleports. I feel like it's partly about how in every person there is multiples of selves, and that on a given day one may express itself more so than the other

  • @jackcollins7061
    @jackcollins7061 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After watching this tens of times; the prestige of this film is how good an actor Bale is. The twins are vastly different characters throughout the film. You know who loves who and how their personalities match that of their chosen partner, you know which dies and how desperately more sad it is. This film was and is a masterpiece.

    • @AdamCoate
      @AdamCoate 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait til you find out that the Borden twins were actually played by two different Christian Bale clones. Oops. Spoiler alert.

  • @sandeman1776
    @sandeman1776 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wasn't Borden brought up in a workhouse? I think Borden's secret is one he's been keeping since the workhouse. Borden understood the Chinese magician's act because he was doing something one level beyond. Angier was just as fooled by the trick as any audience member would be because of those details to which attention was paid. Angier had to go to the extreme of using his fortune to finance the research and equipment.
    Edit: my point is that Borden's secret was so simple and perfect, in performance. Off stage it created such strife in his own lives.

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the novel goes in to much more detail than the film on the background and in to the hardships caused by two men living one life.

  • @l241ensea70y3w3
    @l241ensea70y3w3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jared you are so wise and I’m absolutely hooked on your content so glad you’re making it!

  • @gregbors8364
    @gregbors8364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    “Sometimes, exact science is not an exact science. That’s how I got my weird eye.”
    - David Bowie, probably

    • @SavageMinnow
      @SavageMinnow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      David Bowie got his "weird eye" in a fight. That's not heterochromia. It's an inner eye injury that never healed properly

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SavageMinnow Hilarious that Davy "TheLaughing Gnome" Jones ... _was a brawler_

  • @Urawizardary
    @Urawizardary 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This movie was underated

  • @LeftFootMediaNZ
    @LeftFootMediaNZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The film is actually a warning about Bacon’s worldview, which sets up a vision of reality in which nature is the enslaver of humanity (which is what Bacon is suggesting when he famously declares that ‘knowledge is power’ (over nature). This invites the obvious question: is every natural restraint actually disempowering for humanity, or are there limits we shouldn’t go beyond because they will diminish, rather then empower, humanity? And, if there are limits, where should we seek the moral guidance to know and enact those limits on scientific prowess?
    The movie directly parallels C.S. Lewis’ warning about science without moral restraint, and he even called science ‘the magicians twin’, because, just like a magician, a scientist can do powerful things. But unlike a magician, where the so-called ‘magic’ is actually just an illusion, science actually has the ability to do extremely powerful things in the world, and Lewis warned that this makes it all the more imperative that the power of science is kept in check by moral restraint.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      THIS
      was the most pertinent comment I've read here thus far. The last couple of sentences remind me of both The Magi (Babylonian and beyond) - -one example being The 3 Wise Men from the East at Christ's birth anointing the destiny of a Messiah. Rasputin was another carrying ancient esoteric practice.
      Right up to the Manhattan Project and CERN, where forces that have very severe and various (oftentimes unpredictable) outcomes are "harnessed".

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...not to mention Sabbatai Zev, possibly the maddest magi of all since antiquity.

    • @AdamCoate
      @AdamCoate 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, now I understand why both C.S. Lewis and Alduous Huxley were quietly assassinated the same day as JFK on November 22nd 1963. This can hardly be a coincidence. That was the day that the Illuminati began ruling out in the open.

  • @jessejordache1869
    @jessejordache1869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The titles of the characters support your thesis: Virgil, Milton, The Great Danton (Dante) are all the names of poets who visit Hell in their epics. The Professor is arguably Faust, but it's not as clear a reference as the first three. I love this movie. I love Michael Caine, and angry, emotional Michael Caine is the best Michael Caine. "I saw you on a bloody slab!" "She was sixteen years old -- you were only supposed to blow the bloody door!" "I am aware that I am acting badly; I have every intention of acting badly. In fact, one would argue that this is precisely the situation where one should act badly!" before breaking down in tears.
    Everytime this movie is on, I watch it all the way to the end.

  • @Palaecro
    @Palaecro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My favorite Nolan film by far

  • @regalx1
    @regalx1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The greatest trick the youtube algorithm ever pulled,
    was convincing most of it's potential viewerbase that the Presitge it didn't exist

  • @debrachambers1304
    @debrachambers1304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think that, usually, whatever we DON'T think is real or normal seems wonderous. When radio was first used to remote control things it seemed wondorous, and now nobody gives a shit, that's just a lart of the world.
    Once we establish a feat as readily doable, it no longer feels magical, creating a treadmill of mysticism.

  • @JC_Musician
    @JC_Musician 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The discussion of ideas presented in The Prestige is great! Tying it to modern presentations of data and business is mind blowing because it’s so true! Great video 🥰

  • @andscifi
    @andscifi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What struck me most recently about the prestige was that the first transported man makes it clear that he didn't need to kill his copy every night in the new transported man. He could have just made 1 copy and done the trick in the more traditional way.

    • @rbowdenscipio3408
      @rbowdenscipio3408 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That assumes the copy would have continued to work with him. I thought it made for a telling dichotomy with the twins who put their craft ahead of their individual wants. I think after even only a little reflection, Angier knew his double would before long either betray him or run off - perhaps stealing his noble inheritance as well.

    • @andscifi
      @andscifi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rbowdenscipio3408 I agree with that he likely wouldn't have. I just think that the realization that it was possible reveals a significant amount about his character and adds a layer to his character.
      But there is no evidence that he even considered that, which to me is pretty clear evidence that he wouldn't have been able to work with himself.

  • @brucecrawford1933
    @brucecrawford1933 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your video is excellent. I love your observations and the commentary. You got me thinking harder about the movie but even more, about the relationship between science, magic, and human perception. Awesome job. Thank you!

  • @gustavomarquez1856
    @gustavomarquez1856 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think that CS Lewis said that science was the magician's twin.

    • @CantankerousDave
      @CantankerousDave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “Faith and reason are the shoes on your feet. You can travel further with both than you can with just one."

  • @knaz7468
    @knaz7468 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This movie blew me away

  • @SLICENSLASH
    @SLICENSLASH 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like to think of the Mysteries of Reality like a "Knot" and no matter how much of the mysteries we unravel & solve there's always even more left unraveled in the Knot. If Not because we only scratched the surface, or because with each new solution we create new issues that we are or aren't aware of.
    So this fear of solving the world & making it a mundane, 2-Dimensional existence devoid of wonder is really an unfounded one.
    I've been alive a lil while and the more I think I know, the more I get reminded that there's so much more that I Don't.

    • @AdamCoate
      @AdamCoate 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sadly it's far worse in this world than you can ever imagine. Wait til you find out what goes on beneath your feet every single day.

  • @misterquantum7767
    @misterquantum7767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I get it, it took me fifteen years or so to understand The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai completely. But it is a more complicated film than The Prestige.

    • @jpitt916
      @jpitt916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now I have to watch it to see if there's something I missed....because I THINK I understand it.

  • @Brownyman
    @Brownyman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm looking forward to the Jared Bauer video on the analysis of "Wisecrack".

  • @lincoln2324
    @lincoln2324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's unforgivable that many fans and interviewers don't remember this great movie. I loved Oppenheimer BUT The Prestige is my favourite Nolan movie

    • @30yearsoldiam1
      @30yearsoldiam1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you know what someone remembers?
      I love the prestige but I don't find it needs to be brought up often if a new Nolan movie comes out.
      Don't be the thought police

  • @jongoff7829
    @jongoff7829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    The reference to the "greatest trick the devil ever pulled" as coming from the Usual Suspect is incorrect. This was first coined over a hundred years earlier by Charles Baudelaire, a French novelist. Movies are rarely very original, anymore, and it's a safe bet that if you heard it in a movie, they're quoting someone else who, unfortunately, never gets the credit after the movie was made.
    The phrase is found in Baudelaire's book, Le Joueur Généreux (The Generous Gambler) published in 1864. Fifty years before Baudelaire, John Wilkenson wrote, "One of the artifices of Satan is, to induce men to believe that he does not exist."
    I hope you'll pardon my pedanticism, but as an author myself, I lament whenever another author is forgotten for their contributions, and a movie (however good) is cited instead.

    • @jnemo2605
      @jnemo2605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He never said that is the origin source, just that it is a famous line from the movie. Where did Kevin Spacey's character get it from? What about the script writer then. If actor says "to be or not to be", does one assume that is totally original?

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jnemo2605 The comment is still correct. Thats not where it 'comes from'. Thats a USE of it. And I get his point, and actually I think even BEFORE that I remember researching it (not researching it before, researching it AND:) and its actually from an unnamed pamphlet publicist even prior to that. People forget that a main means of communication after the printing press was pamphleteering, for those who couldn't afford to publish whole books and newspapers.
      What happens even MORE often is that writers get great ideas or sayings from random places, then THEY get credit because they stuck their name on it. And so began the writing profession. Hows THAT for pedantic.
      Frankly I liked The Usual Suspects for a long time, now I kind of hate it and hate how 'brilliant' some people think it is simply because its got a 'hook' you dont see coming.
      Of course the SECOND greatest trick the devil pulled is convincing mankind that he DOES exist. Don't go stealing that!:)

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Baudelaire was a poet -- are you sure that's a quote from him? It's not characteristic of his style.

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jessejordache1869 Like I said, he gets credit from a pamphlet but it was a common saying of the time. Look it up on wikipedia and they explain his 'credit'. It wasn't in a poem, but it was originally said 'poetically'.

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mikearchibald744 My screen formatted your first paragraph and I didn't notice the "read more" where you expand and make it clear you know what you're talking about. My bad.

  • @marcusbighouse
    @marcusbighouse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always called this movie: Batman vs Wolverine.
    Batman wins, but loses half of what he has in the process

  • @OofHearted
    @OofHearted 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Hugh Jackman's character, what an idiot! Not only does he squander the greatest technological invention mankind has ever seen, but getting back to the petty magic and rivalry bullsh!t, just keeping one double of himself alive would have been enough to do tricks repeatedly without continually creating and murdering a double of himself and risking his life every time he performed it like he has been doing. Having his secret double probably would have made _himselves_ realise that his nemesis must be using a secret twin too.

    • @Mikewee777
      @Mikewee777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Valid argument . He was in such a hurry to defy the success of his rival that he destroyed himself in the process .

    • @ralphengland8559
      @ralphengland8559 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Or start a butcher shop with duplicate cows. Or duplicate gold. Or anything really.

    • @MrOtistetrax
      @MrOtistetrax 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think the only reason Tesla agrees to sell him the device is that he can see that Angiers is so consumed by his quest that he’ll squander it instead of allowing it to get free and cause the havoc it has the potential to.

    • @mattwhorlow9900
      @mattwhorlow9900 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You really think the device REALLY made clones? That was just the 'prestige' to make you think it was magic, and not just a trap door and his double from the previous trick?

    • @TrykusMykus
      @TrykusMykus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@mattwhorlow9900 Where'd he get all these doubles for those performances? LMAO I kinda tuned out from the movie when Tesla was introduced and when he showed this device (wasn't too impressed before either). If someone actually could clone anything, most of the world's problems would either be solved or exacerbated, hard to tell which would come first.

  • @johngaltline9933
    @johngaltline9933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one of the very few films where the movie is as least as good as the book it's based on... mostly. I actually like the story in the book better, the characters are fleshed out and their motives explored far better, but the film tells the basics of the story quite well without ruining the premise.

  • @solidsnake58
    @solidsnake58 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really enjoyed this one

  • @colinchesbrough5772
    @colinchesbrough5772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:16 to 8:18. The best magic trick, where the narrator of this video reveals he is actually Francis Bacon in a stunning side by side

  • @UberTankred
    @UberTankred 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you think you understand The Prestige, you don't understand The Prestige.

    • @bentonrp
      @bentonrp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand it : Embarrassingly Overrated !

    • @robinanwaldt
      @robinanwaldt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bentonrpI think it’s rather your comment that’s embarrassingly pretentious.

  • @jonathanfeldheim6554
    @jonathanfeldheim6554 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Prestige has always been my favorite Nolan movie and yes I think Nolan's BEST work and contribution; each of our many interpretations of the same film reflects and reveals ourselves mostly, and that is whyThe Prestige epitomizes movie magic

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here, here!

  • @alexbayswood4847
    @alexbayswood4847 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Begun the Clone War has.

  • @SDesWriter
    @SDesWriter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You missed one part of the “Trick,” that while Bale’s character was willing to live half a life to keep his secret in a way that reflected a truly dedicated magician, Jackman‘s character was willing to do a horrific murder to himself without knowing if the original survived or just a copy. he was always less skilled as a magician and he was willing to be far more ruthless to win their little competition even allowing Bale’s character to be put to death.

  • @frogman9989
    @frogman9989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Crazy thing is, I can imagine Tesla really making something like that back in the day, man was a underrated genius. The Tesla plot was my favorite part of the movie. Great movie.

  • @chrisanschau8169
    @chrisanschau8169 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This channel is about to blow up! I can feel it

  • @cruizlee214
    @cruizlee214 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's about the Hollywood battle between practical special effects that people are bored by and high tech visual effects that impress initially but have hidden costs.

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting take. Nolan also addressed the movie industry in Inception.

  • @saltybrackishfresh
    @saltybrackishfresh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Science does NOT disenchant, if anything it enchants it more than ever before … that’s Kabalah

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nothing is a bigger example of the idea that "people want to be fooled" than TH-cam,social media itself and the idea of "authenticity" and "relatability".

  • @tykjenffs
    @tykjenffs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "We were two young men at the start of a great career. Two Young men who did not intend to hurt anyone"
    As this is narrated we see Borden and Angier.
    But the notebook really speaks of Borden and his Brother.

  • @joshuaphillips755
    @joshuaphillips755 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Wtf? I swear I've watched this movie twice and I don't recall half this shit.

    • @MammothBehemoth
      @MammothBehemoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NGL, sometimes life is better that way

    • @BigFatCock0
      @BigFatCock0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nolan movies have that effect. That's not a good thing.

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are you possibly thinking of The Illusionist?
      They came out very close together and they've got a lot of common points
      (Totally different stories though!)

  • @ruhrmannr
    @ruhrmannr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, from a movie review to an inspiring philosophical explanation :) Thank man

  • @OGStinkywizzleteats
    @OGStinkywizzleteats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You know it's a great movie when no one even mentions how hot Scarlett Johansson is in it in the comments...until now.

    • @ikmor
      @ikmor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's not relevant.

    • @Here_is_Waldo
      @Here_is_Waldo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ikmor it's rarely - if ever - relevant, yet people still do it. I don't get pointing it out myself, she would never have been an actor if she were one of us uggos, but there you go.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her hotness is a given, mate. Nothing to convince anyone on there!
      /2¢

  • @warriorlink8612
    @warriorlink8612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An excellent analysis of an excellent movie. The Prestige is one of the few movies I use to judge the quality of new movies that I watch.

  • @tmzFRM
    @tmzFRM 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The prestige is, as most Nolan's movies, mostly about how Nolan is clever. The real prestige is that the self publicity really looks like a movie, sometimes even like a great movie.

    • @Studeb
      @Studeb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      His movies are clever, but usually require some really huge suspension of disbelief. The most obvious question in this movie is, why did Tesla sell the duplicator for money, when he could just duplicate anything, including money, himself?

    • @mikellyy
      @mikellyy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree fully. Nolan’s movies are always way too self serious and usually rest their whole premise on a 13 year old boys version of deep. Always spectacle over story or humanity. Oppenheimer felt like his first human movie.

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Studeb
      The Tesla machine was just a closet that shoots sparks. It didn't clone anything.
      Borden sent Angier to Tesla on a wild goose chase. Angier figured it out and turned the tables by telling a better story.
      Borden was the better mechanic, but Angier the better story teller.

    • @davidlean1060
      @davidlean1060 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fgoindarkg Exactly. One clue is the preamble to the performance with Root. Angier talks about the secrets of the trick being known only to holy men and monks in the Himalayahs or something like that. Strange, mysterious men living in the snowy mountains, sounds like his story about Tesla in the Rockies, right?!

  • @fuoser
    @fuoser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not sure why i didnt check for your channel earlier, bc thats what i was missing. never stop dropping! hope youre doing well!!!

  • @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
    @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Im simple man, I see a video of Christopher Nolan and I click inmediatly

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Simp

    • @iago9711
      @iago9711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Christopher "please don't think too hard about this" Nolan

  • @dominusblandus
    @dominusblandus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This film is so brilliant. The Metaphor with the bird in the cage... we as audience get the whole premise of the trick explained so early in the game "but we want to be fooled", too, and do not want to see that the explanation with the dead bird / double bird (brother) is the same as with the magicians. There is so much layering.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You probably won't see this for several days, if at all, because TH-cam keeps suppressing my comments, but I have a different interpretation of the movie than it would seem everyone else. My interpretation is not that the journal is fake, but rather that Borden had used Tesla's machine once and realized the implications of such a machine after which he destroyed his copy of it and vowed never to use such a machine ever again. But if I missed anything or are misremembering because it has been so many years since I saw it, I'm sure someone will see my post and comment to correct me, because that's always how it works.

    • @marsiloficino5060
      @marsiloficino5060 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True - just got it today

    • @markkjacobson
      @markkjacobson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I never got Bordens were twins but rather result of the one time Borden used the machine. That seemed like that from my first viewing 20 years ago. Thematically it makes more sense than them being twins.

    • @swampfaye
      @swampfaye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@markkjacobson but remember that the woman, scarlet Johanson, remarks that the Christian bale character acts completely different and cold from time to time. That indicated to me more likely twin than clone.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@swampfaye Something to consider there. Why do twins with identical DNA have different personalities ever? One possible theory is that our actual personalities, what makes us tick, is not really what's inside our brains but rather a random perturbation of a quantum field that our brains interact with. If even close to the truth, then it's more than likely that even these type of clones, what I would refer to as a quick clone because they're not grown but directly copied, would also have differing personalities from one another. The DNA aspect could be a matter of how your brain matter connects to the quantum field and that similarities will exist, but never will someone be identical.

    • @swampfaye
      @swampfaye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@anon_y_mousse because they have developed different personalities. A clone of an adult who is the same in every way... is the same in every way.

  • @cattusvakarian6182
    @cattusvakarian6182 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an excellent insight. I can't say I've been this engaged by a piece of film analysis for a long time.

  • @ericepperson8409
    @ericepperson8409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke

  • @hieronymusvonlipschitz
    @hieronymusvonlipschitz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm terribly sorry - you've activated the pedant in me. When somebody has been executed by hanging its referred to as hanged, not hung. Most people these days forget that

    • @OktoPutsch
      @OktoPutsch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a sign that nowadays average people's web search history is full of porn

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Meh, that's but a tiny nitpick. The video creator's misunderstanding of the supernatural and the paranormal is far more alarming
      (and of course, quite common today. We can thank Compulsory Schooling imported from 19th C Prussia and Austria for our twisted state of the current "culture").

    • @drebk
      @drebk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am not at all convinced that you are sorry in the slightest... let alone terribly.

    • @WheatMillington
      @WheatMillington 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Being an insufferable pedant is optional, you choose to be this way.

  • @atomicsmith
    @atomicsmith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Easily Nolan’s best movie. Great video and analysis.

  • @1massboy
    @1massboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I’m a simple man. I see a video by Jared in my feed, I click on it.

    • @DM-mq6hx
      @DM-mq6hx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you a clone? I see this exact comment all the time.

    • @thevrana
      @thevrana 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DM-mq6hx A lot of simple men in the world

    • @1massboy
      @1massboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DM-mq6hx
      Nope. But I’m probably stating the fact that a lot of people here think.

  • @jaewok5G
    @jaewok5G 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic,” - Arthur C. Clarke
    i remember when i chose to watch this movie, i had little expectations for it because i hadn't heard of it before seeing it on a list, but i was absolutely floored by it. fwiw; Tesla's "wireless energy transmission" to light the town is absolutely sound physics and technology, just commercially unviable.

  • @ElPincheFlores
    @ElPincheFlores 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I tought it was a duplicate Borden , not a twin? That is maybe why the diary leads Angier to Tesla, because he used the same tech, but only used it once instead of repeatedly killing himself. When the surviving Borden explains the love for both Olivia and Sarah, he claims that a PART of him loved each one. Am i remembering wrong?

    • @SephWarren
      @SephWarren 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The way I remember it. Didn't the movie specifically say that the second Borden was a homeless doppelganger? That's why they had different loves, because they were literally different people.

    • @twothirdsanexplosive
      @twothirdsanexplosive 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I very much remember them revealing that they were twins that grew up dedicating themselves to this trick. And they stuck with it even tho the one who didn't kill the assistant at the beginning and was the faithful one ended up being the one stuck behind bars for the rest of his life.

    • @meatballhead15
      @meatballhead15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@SephWarrenAngier found a homeless man doppelganger and had to take his bows below the stage, and eventually the doppelganger became less cooperative/wanting more.
      Borden and his twin were always twins to my understanding.

    • @KingJ64
      @KingJ64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I have never heard anyone else come to this same conclusion I did.

    • @jamesdaniels6741
      @jamesdaniels6741 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is how I remember the movie, too. I thought it begged the questions, what would you do if you met yourself? How would you treat/judge them?

  • @alvarodiamzon5069
    @alvarodiamzon5069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    four things are certain in this world. Death, Taxes, and Nolan-Caine duo

  • @macy1066
    @macy1066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The real question is, do you finally understand Barbie?

    • @MammothBehemoth
      @MammothBehemoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Come to think of it, was there something to understand?
      Is it the friends we make along the way?

    • @ObsceneSuperMatt
      @ObsceneSuperMatt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MammothBehemoth You just have to learn to accept you are Kenough.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MammothBehemoth There actually is! Check out the video by Pop Culture Detective about it.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ignorance is bliss, and one likely will never understand a thing in this big bad world without also understanding Barbie.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "finally" is what younger ones say just before discovering the next layer of the proverbial onion

  • @robertpaterson5477
    @robertpaterson5477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Telling each other stories is not just "something we do". Stories are vehicles for beliefs. Telling a story is a way to propagate belief, or values, through a population.

  • @ERMediaOfficial
    @ERMediaOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pet peeve: It is HANGED, he is hanged for his murder, not hung. Hanged is exclusively used for hanging people. Everything else is hung.
    Take note, Star Trek writers.

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Men are hanged, horses are hung.

  • @Denis-vr3sh
    @Denis-vr3sh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought I had heard this voice before - so glad I stumbled back to your channel after leaving that other one.

  • @Wetcamerainc
    @Wetcamerainc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Always hated this movie

    • @MammothBehemoth
      @MammothBehemoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Batman vs Wolverine?
      DC vs Marvel?
      why the hate?

    • @Kenshiro3rd
      @Kenshiro3rd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MammothBehemoth it absolutely BUTCHERED the book.

  • @Armakk
    @Armakk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:34 - 3:05 By far best summary of the film I've ever seen, and I watch a lot cuz it's my fave Nolan. My majors were epistemology & sociology, so really appreciated the Weber (and correct pronunciation!) and Bacon references... Been a filmmaker for 25 years or so and your essay unlocked an insight: Nolan was thinking about the magic of film, specifically the defining magic of the cut. How do we know that actor/character is the same actor/character cut after cut after cut? It's a social contract... like a magic show. Teleportation and secret twins are the reductio ad absurdum of classical stage craft and yet also stab at the heart of "movie magic," i.e. ten thousand takes re-contextualized in post-production to create the illusion of a performance and a story. I have a strong hunch Nolan was thinking about the Venn overlap of screen craft and stage craft when conceiving this masterpiece.

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For a minute I thought this was classic Wisecrack. Good to see you again!

  • @a.tevetoglu3366
    @a.tevetoglu3366 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought the message was twins are better than clones.

  • @amoo2007
    @amoo2007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love you and the scope through which you look at things. You are probably one of the few TH-camrs I actually click on. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with is.