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Thank God, I was worried I would need a full sized PC instead of a slightly smaller one, but now I can just use this PC-sized cooler to cool my small PC and save tons of space!
@@dstutz The water return port in the reservoir is too close to the pump, so all air bubble got suck back into circulation. They simply switch the water return port to a higher slot, and so the air bubble would stay on top instead.
new channel. "Linus Product Fixes", where they find fixes for major issues with tech products. Maybe they could get a revenue stream from selling the fixes to the original product designers
Honestly, I'd love to see them do a video where they do attempt make a better version of it in a day. I know they've done similar thing in the past, but it'd be fun to see what they can do.
@@philth7587 Uhh.... The point would be a fun video for the audience? I wasn't saying there weren't other options. I was just suggesting they try because they said they could do it. Just because I'm not going to build my own external radiator doesn't mean I don't want to see them try.
a suggestion from a mechanic... instead of just filling the rad when we work on cars, we use a fill cup or some call it burping the radiator. so you use a funnel that fits tightly in the fill spout and over fill the funnel, when air comes out its automatically replaced with more water and it wont make such a huge mess like that.
Fixing the design was hilarious to watch. I would absolutely watch a series where you take expensive, poorly designed products and fix them so they work better.
@@monkey3582 You are aware it's the exact same principle on both cases, right ? You are aware there is water in the pipes of air coolers, right ? You are aware that watercooling are just air coolers with a different setup, right ? The only benefit of watercooling is having bigger radiators (more than 360mm) and more clearance on the mobo, otherwise the risks of leaks and defect products are not worth it. If you want performances, low prices and low noise levels, go to noctua. Pumps and watercooling fans are louder, and overall more expensive.
That 10 day warranty makes me think of when I ordered a car part off a website and they had a 12 day warranty... from PURCHASE DATE... and it took 15 DAYS FOR THE PART TO BE DELIEVERED.
@@99xara99 In countries with mandatory warranty (like Germany and probably most/all of the EU): No chance. But if the warranty is compltely optional and up to the seller I guess they can do whatever stupid shit they want...
@@99xara99 I don't know about Canada. Important EDIT: in the US, this may vary for each state. But at the federal level, this is nothing stopping it But in the US, if it is part of the contract of the warranty, a "starts on purchase date" clause for a warranty is entirely legal. Or rather, there is no law or precedent preventing such a clause from being in a warranty contract, or to render it unenforceable. And you are going to be hard pressed to find companies that offer warranty terms that start with the arrival date. (Another reason why one should consider buying from a brick and mortar store)
@@TechSY730 thats just absolutly insane to me as ThiefMaster has stated in my country(Germany) such a clause would be illegal to no end. even ignoring the EXTREMLY short time for it(10 days isnt even covering the 14 days "no questions asked" return policy that is mandatory for "Fernmeldegesschäfte" (aka purchases done via the phone or internet etc) and that is just the icebeerg
I just love how Linus comes back from ''there is no such thing as a bad product'' while somebody is throwing tiny plastic baby's in the fan. The IQ level is superb
@@MrPaxio There's a lot more than you might think, particularly with sketchy/scammy sellers. It's just that a lot of people are smart enough to avoid them entirely.
@@JimSefton do you own one? From the launch video, and the various people trying it out, including various tradesmen, it has been received really well. Linus didn't mess around.
What you do is add a neck to the fill port, with a funnel. The same way a radiator fill on a older vehicles work. As air escapes, the air bubbles out taking some water with it, but due to the shape of a funnel at the top, the water wouldn't splash out and be recovered as it drains back into the fill hole.
Would be kinda hilarious if there's instructions for it somewhere on like their website (or probably in their Tiktok or something stupid like one of these chinese superapps)
The cold supply line too should be on the bottom of the radiator enclosure, having both at the same level is peak dumb, all i can say is liquid cooling a PC appears to have people not understanding what has already been worked out in home heating water runs and cars for 100+ years
17:11 The pitch of the sound the blades make in standard A440 tuning is about E flat -ish (before it starts slowing down), so about 622Hz. The fans have 11 blades, so I'd say they are spinning at about 622Hz*60s/11≈3400rpm.
@@chrisbaker8533 This thing is getting 12 V max... I don't see it exploding, but the controller boards WILL go up in smoke if you're unlucky. This entire design is so extremely backwards, I'm almost sure they never actually tested this before bringing it to market.
Really wouldn't be hard. Just get a MO-RA360, Heatkiller Reservoir with D5 pump, 9 Arctic 120mm fans, EK soft tubes and fittings and couple of quick disconnects and that's it. I'm surprised their product is so bad, it's not that hard right now to do this so kinda no excuse.
I think it speaks more to the crap design - Hell, I noticed it as soon as we saw the bubbles pull into the pump, and I've never even been around a water cooled system.
I've not built anywhere near as many watercooled builds as Linus or Alex, but I've definitely made all the same mistakes this product had, so I knew exactly where to look.
Linus, if you decide to make one of these google "swirl pot". It's a dead simple air separating device. Also generally when bleeding a system you feed fluid in while allowing the fluid to flow out into a catch at the other end of the loop until it is free of bubbles.
I went searching for exactly this comment! I think they could split it into two videos; one for entry level DIYers (no industrial equipment) and one of the best LTT can make with parts and equipment on hand
@@dtfech you can make one with just home depo parts or your local equivalent it would probably cost you around 30 bucks for the materials. I made one for my next build, because there are legit no good eatx cases on the market rn for a reasonable price. I just welded a frame together i can fit 4 360rads in it i got a old PSU to power it and a cheap LCD fan controller on the front, i got a large metal mesh on the sides with a filter below it that just slides on and off. I only got 2 rads in it now but it's keeping my old gtx1070 and Ryzen 5 1600 at like 25 degrees idel and a peak of 50-60 degrees when gaming and that's with 6 year old thermal paste.
It was built wrong from the factory, I have the 360mm version of this and my fill/exhaust ports were installed correctly. I think whoever built this one mixed up where the fill & exhaust ports go.
This looks like the perfect opportunity to use all the fabrication tools LTT has to build a more elegant solution. Then either sell the unit in low volumes or release the schematics and build files as open source. Showing that process of semi-professional product design, engineering and "release" would be really awesome.
@@sqlevolicious I mean, the company who built this cooler supposedly had an engineer and look what happened. The LTT folks identified the issues and have plenty of skilled staff and the equipment to iterate on this. Besides, there are no failures, only content.
I would love to see you guys take parts of this and make it the way it should have been. Use the same Radiator but use better fans and your own water revisors to make it perfect. Maybe even showing us how to build one ourselves. I think this is a great idea for a product i just dont know how they messed up so badly
For something that size, I wonder if it could cool multiple PCs. That would be a good use case. Instead of having 3 giant PC towers, you have the huge-ass radiator and 3 small form-factor PCs. I think they did a desk where the fans were on the desk, and that was a good example.
A trick to fill impossible loops is put a T and a valve in, then pull a vacuum on the coolant system, close the valve, put a tube in your liquid and connect it to the closed valve, then open and watch the water shoot through the entire system. Works every time on my last four builds.
@Karl Berget Alright, it's OK. Who knows - his other builds could've had strange edge cases like some of LTT's videos tend to + He's just posting a tip!
Or do the same thing they did with one of the chillers. Just have a pressurized fill source. Which technically is what you're doing with a vacuum on the exit port.
This is basically how refrigerant systems are filled and the same concept behind how automotive coolant systems bleed themselves too. Actually a good tip.
As a note - you're using too much pressure when you tested the external radiator setup on its own. 0.3 bar is the recommended maximum for a complete loop, or anything involving a distribution plate. There's a chance to damage it running pressure that high. EK notes this in the manual.
I have a tip for filling hard to fill things like that radiator, a ptreol hand pump for a outboard motor works great to push liquid through with the system off!
I was not expecting a plaintive cry of "Stop putting babies in the computeeeer!", in this review, but I think I love it. If you can fully explain why a terrible product is the way it is, and then try to fix it, that's content gold right there.
Pro tip: use a Mityvac MV6400 automotive pressure bleeder with the MV588 transmission adapter for complex loops. It threads into G1/4 and you can power bleed any loop no matter how complex. Put 2 valves at the end of the loop to block flow and open a drain and you can perform coolant changes in record time WITHOUT losing prime. Bonus is its 1 gallon so you can mix your distilled water and coolant concentrate right inside it. I have 4 radiators and 2 pumps in a o11 XL and needed a solution for maintenance, and this is what I found works best!
Or just buy a Aquacomputer Leakshield, I fill my system thru the EK drain fitting on my GPU block with it's internal vacuum pump and use the auto deaeration cycle a couple times afterwards, shit's cash. vac pump sensors valves and a display all built into the reservoir cap, and the matching D5 NeXt pump has it's own water temp sensor, pump controller, display and fan controller so you just flash the desired fan curves into it once thru software and it does it's own thing with fan/pump speeds. Can even display system info like cpu temps etc on either display. caveat- pump only has 1 fan output so you can only daisy-chain 3-4 or just get a splitty9 to control more like i did
@@eclipsegst9419 If that's required to run this, then the design is inherently flawed. This isn't a car brake system, it's (well it should be) a relatively simple water cooling loop.
@@TheEchelon not required. A little patience would have worked fine. But if they were in a hurry they should have used the right tool to hurry the process.
I love how during the intro, when Alex hands Linus the box, he stays close by to make sure Linus doesn't drop the thing before they even get to test it 😂 ❤
For future reference: a fitting with a length of tube can be screwed in to the fill port to give it some wiggle room on backflow gurgles and running dry. Wider tube the better.
First we got the external GPUs, now we have external coolers, next each part of the PC will be kept in entirely separate rooms to ensure maximum cooling. Also, "We would have made it better than this" *Flashbacks to the PT Cruiser Cooler video*
me, when I was like 14: why have a case at all, just nail each component to the wall individually and have a big spiderweb of cables running between them
For empty rads (or a crappy design), I thought it was common knowledge to just attach a tube to the fill port and lightly blow through it to get the water moving. It also lets you put in a few inches, or even feet, of water at a time and it can't burp on you. I've actually used a 6-12" tube with a fill cap plug on it on my last 2 builds and it tucks nicely behind front panel on many cases(above front mount fans or rad).
I'd love to see a build with the MO-RA3 420 as a "How to do this but properly" video. Maybe you could make a project out of it by building a chassis incorporating it into the case?
didn't Aquatuning have an universal external case for that or was it just for the 9x120mm variants? even the cheaper Phobya Xtreme Nova 1080 would slap the piece of crap they tested here, and that have been on the market since before Linus even break trough on TH-cam...
I basically have the MO-RA360 version of this thing that actually works. Using quick disconnects, a Heatkiller res but a D5 pump instead (actually running two, one at the rad and one inside my NR200). Even have 9 fans like LTTs too, but mine are Arctic fans on a Noctua controller all connected to my mobo so I can monitor and control the fans I got excited when I saw this product originally announced but dang, what a horrible implementation. Just spec out your own MO-RA, use EK soft tubes and it'll be way better than that thing.
This has been such a delight to watch, thoroughly enjoyed watching you guys engineer a mod that made it work so quickly too. Hope to see you dig into more crappy products and see what how quickly you can fix them.
@ Yeah, It's such a shame they have to tear those builds down afterwards, it would be great to see how they stack up. Like the car radiator cooler done right. Also really curious to see their engineers do their own version of this external rad.
It's about time we get a full tower case that triples as a radiator, reservoir and pump. It would have everything you need for water cooling, but it's also a fully functional case! I'm not talking about a case with all the liquid cooling essentials included inside of it, what i mean is to use each part as a piece of the case. Radiators with included fans for the side panels and top, reservoir front and/or back, and a replaceable pump somewhere easily accessible. Why doesn't this already exist?
It would be nice to see a follow up to this video where you build your own stand alone water cooler that would be something that the average person could build or buy.
If you are going with an external radiator like that, you might as well just janky-rig an aquarium chiller. I have not tried it myself, but I would imagine you might have some condensation problems in the PC if the temperature in the chiller is set too low. EDIT: It looks like you guys already did one :) th-cam.com/video/HMtvEbD2MQo/w-d-xo.html
8:01 I absolutely love the fact they were allowed to randomly decorate the pc with straight up random shit, sometimes these things need to happen, you have to take the small victories in life but this one feels just a little bigger than that.
5:00 that line going down and back up would create a syphon effect, making for an easier time filling and less work for the pumps, assuming I understand correctly. It should help prevent stray air bubbles too, if filled with patience :P
Not particularly unusual for a company to make the BEST individual parts, only to completely crap the bed when it comes to making a self-contained product out of those individual parts they excel at.
They were the only company I could find offering 6900XT SE waterblocks for Sapphire, and its been flawless. It hurt watching this. Like, paranoid hurt. I'm staring at my case right now.
It's water hammer! It's squirting when you turn it off because all the momentum in THAT MUCH TUBING suddenly hits the resistance of a stopped pump. Go watch Practical Engineering's video on water hammer. Also, a vertical tube (with a fitting) on the fill port gives space for water and bubbles to settle in. Stick a funnel in there for even more wiggle room. Easy mode. What are you guys doing?
That’s why I have a MORA next to my NCase M1 :) silent pc with easy quick release fittings and a „small“ radiator on the bottom of the case for lan usage … where only older games are running and don’t need much performance
@@rubiconnn water cooling is rarely "worth it". I use it because I can have powerful components and never worry about the noise. And also because it is cool.
@@rubiconnn i done it because i wanted a relative small case which is "easy" Transportable to take it every year to the lan during the winter holidays with my friends. And for Gaming at home the NCase M1 is standing on my desk silently. I Have a 3080Ti in It and a Ryze 3700X (time for a Upgrade). At Lan the noise is forgettable. I Dont Like Big Cases but love Silence - i dont use Headphones (only on lans) .. at home i have good speakers.
@@Chloe_Priceless I have a Ryzen 3800x and an RTX 2080 jammed into a tiny Silverstone SB13 case and a tiny Noctua nhl9i CPU cooler and it's more than adaquate for my 3800x running overclocked. I sewed a leather carrying handle for it and take it like everywhere I go lol.
If I could go back in time I would get a degree and work for you. I smile so much when I watch all of LMG's content. Thanks guys n gals. Keep it coming. I watch everything every single day.
I'm sure I'm missing something, but why would you hook up the return line before you'd at least mostly filled it? Let the water push the air ahead of it, not try to fight past it. That said the bubbles being sucked through rather than escaping once the loop is closed is definitely a flaw in the design.
You guys are churning out quality content. Keep up the pace. $700 is wayyy too much for this. A car radiator hooked up to an impeller and tubes would probably be 100x better
A few years ago i watercooled a 2700x and 5700xt entirely with Bykski products, water blocks and all, just to test the parts and see whether or not they were any good. It was ridiculously cheap to do so i said eh why not. It ended up working great, none of the fittings ever leaked over my 2 year use of the machine, no oxidation from bad metal alloys or anything. Overall great experience and i think i watercooled the entire system for something like 250 bucks, ended up overclocking that gpu within top 2% of the world or something like that
Looks a lot like a Watercool MO-RA3. I've been using one of those for years and it's great. It uses 4 noctua 200mm NF-A20s and I can't hear it no matter the load but it stays cool nonetheless. Edit: lol that price, yeah get a mor-ra3 made in Germany for 200 euros and add your own noctua fans and a good reservoir and D5 pump.
Same here! Feeding 500 watts into gpu+cpu when running at full blast has never been more quiet - as in, literally the same noise level as when idling. I'll never go back to a noisy air cooled solution.
This is user error in the beginning. They should have connected the qdcs from the rad into one another and fill that first, used the water bottle with the straw from the beginning, fill the rad, then connect it and fill the system. I have a mora3 420 and did it this way. Also use a power supply with a jumper so the components aren't at risk and over heat while waiting on water.
The first PC i ever build myself was cooled by a thermaltake Rocket. I loved that thing so much that im still trying to find one to use in my current build. Just not gunked up and looking like its 100 years old.
Looks rather simple design. You should be able to reproduce clone rather easily if some parts are gone crusty. Mind you can now days 3D print and cast plastic, well as make silicone molds that was before required pretty excessive amount of money.
You were lucky you didn't destroy the pump. Process: 1/ use a bucket and place it 50cm above the radiator. 2/ Then a second 10-20cm below the radiator. 3/ Open the top valve and let the water flow. 4/ Once the water comes out in the bottom bucket, close the bottom pipe. 5/ Turn the radiator up side down to expel the air. => no risk of electrocution or destruction of the pump.
I do like Bykski, I had a pair of Bykski water blocks as they're the only one who made blocks for the Sapphire Vega64 Nitro, they were amazing blocks and really really well made. I was very apprehensive when buying them as like Linus, I had never looked into them.
I have a MO-RA from Watercool, and it’s a great external rad. It wasn’t cheap, but the quality was great. I have it connected to a Meshlicious, and I one day want to hook it up to something even smaller. The PC may grow outdated, but a radiator is a radiator. I plan to re-use it for builds to come.
have the Phobya Nova 1080 because the price on the older MO-RA units back in the day where even more ridiculous than they are today, and even the Phobya is absurd in terms of cooling. have 4x Silverstone 180mm fans running at 450rpm and my old Dual Opteron 290+Geforce 7800GTX-512 SLI build never passed 60*C. even managed to get waterblocks for the Tyan motherboard keeping that hot potato of an nforce chipset chilled. not having the heart to take it out of that build, also the "pentium pro"-era NEC server case that is modded to have that rad at the side will turn structural unstable without it x)
@@brrebrresen1367 what did pay for that phobya. Maybe I am lucky, I am from Germany and since Watercool is a German company I payed 200€ (including postage) for the Mo-Ra 3 420 my 3080 never goes above 35°C even at room temps of 30
@@TheZRasmus back then 15-ish years ago the Phobya 1080 was around 80€ incl VAT here as i remember, think only the now old MO-RA2 was released (no MO-RA3) and that was 150€ and had to be imported (so shipping, taxes and whatnot...) but you also needed to buy a 30+€ grill to mount fans and it only took 120mm fans, no possibility for 180mm. think i found out that if i wanted a MO-RA instead it would have been 300+ € back then...
@@brrebrresen1367 ahh, I would have decided as you did.. in fact I decided for the MoRa because it was cheaper than a LianLi 3 rads and had more cooling power
This probably would have been easier with the NR200MAX instead of the NR200P. The GPU mounts a little lower in the chassis in that one. I also had concerns about water making it all the way from the inlet to the outlet with how much radiator there is there.
The idea is kinda cool. You could have an absolutely inaudibly silent system by just moving all the cooling to another room! 😃 ...well, at least it would be silent until you hit your modern high-end GPU with a gaming/production workload and the coils start singing the songs of their people 😂
@2:40 why would i want an ITX case on the desk and that huge external cooler next to my desk? At this point just have a bigger Case sitting next to your desk and spare the hasse and maybe even save money
This reminds me of my apprentices trying to fill & bleed a boiler system for the first time. Let gravity and pre-filling everything possible guide you, fellas.
JayzTwoCents made a video about this type of cooling setup. A few years back, it wasn’t built by a 3rd party company. He took aluminum channel framing, 4 - 480mm radiators (I believe), 1 box fan and then stuck the radiators to the fan. It did really well for being homemade.
I have a byksi GPU block that cost a 1/4 of EK's stuff and its been working flawlessly for me. Also have that flow and water temp meter combo unit that was like $20 and it works great.
Put a funnel at the top that way it has room to bubble without going everywhere, this is about as poorly designed as a lot of car coolant system designs that’s why they make funnel fill adapter kits that lock into the radiator or reservoir fill and give a large area to bleed it
You should put some Noctua PPCs or Phanteks T30s on that giant rad and mod the reservoir to fix it, then it would be an awesome external rad, and less jank than the PT Cruiser radiator.
This is one of the best videos on this channel that I've watched. While it's factual where it can be, everyone is also having so much fun. Thanks for a great channel :)
Actually Bykski waterblocks are great quality. They were the only ones to make a Europe available waterblock for the Gigabyte 30 series cards and I ran one on a 3080 Gaming OC and the block was great. Temps are good, flow rate is fine, the machining is great. Looks and performs no worse then a Alphacool block for example.
@@NekoiNemo I doubt that's the case. The feed hole kept spitting back at them, both with the thing turned on AND off. How are you supposed to do it then? You can probably find the manual online
Mate… “great quality” “machining is great”… we see what type of quality it is in the video and how bad they did If you have to fix or modify it to the point that you can’t close it ever then it’s not “great”
Update: I couldn't find the manual online. That is really not confidence inspiring. Along with other issues like no integrated fan control, the dinky power cable that relies on your motherboard that can easily be accidentally ripped out, possibly damaging your pc or motherboard, and the noise out of the box, as well as the niche use case (if you're gonna use this to cool your small form factor pc, why not get a bigger case with better cooling instead?), this is still a bad product, even if Linus' trouble getting the loop bled was their own fault.
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14:00 Please do. I bet you could make a better system, we need to see this!
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@@theotherchannel2279 and give us a listing of the parts! make it from hardware store parts!
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Thank God, I was worried I would need a full sized PC instead of a slightly smaller one, but now I can just use this PC-sized cooler to cool my small PC and save tons of space!
Lol
With long enough tubes you just keep that thing in the basement or something.
@@chronossage With long enough tubes i just put the ends in a lake and use it as a huge reservoir.
@@chronossage Not with that pump in there lol.
Eh, I think this would look cool besides my Shift X. If I end up rebuilding it, I'd likely need a setup like this in order to keep it cool.
The "fixing the product" portion of the video was magical. I would love to see more of that in the future!
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"Once you fill it, it will work. You can just never put it back together again." 🤣
It was entertaining but as someone with no water cooling experience I couldn't really tell what it was they were actually doing to fix it
@@dstutz The water return port in the reservoir is too close to the pump, so all air bubble got suck back into circulation. They simply switch the water return port to a higher slot, and so the air bubble would stay on top instead.
new channel. "Linus Product Fixes", where they find fixes for major issues with tech products. Maybe they could get a revenue stream from selling the fixes to the original product designers
Honestly, I'd love to see them do a video where they do attempt make a better version of it in a day. I know they've done similar thing in the past, but it'd be fun to see what they can do.
I seccond that.
There's no need to make much of an attempt. Just buy a mo-ra3 with add ons and it's done in an hour
@@philth7587 Uhh.... The point would be a fun video for the audience? I wasn't saying there weren't other options. I was just suggesting they try because they said they could do it.
Just because I'm not going to build my own external radiator doesn't mean I don't want to see them try.
I wonder if they have enough people to field two teams and make it a competition.
Yeees!!
a suggestion from a mechanic... instead of just filling the rad when we work on cars, we use a fill cup or some call it burping the radiator. so you use a funnel that fits tightly in the fill spout and over fill the funnel, when air comes out its automatically replaced with more water and it wont make such a huge mess like that.
that how normal people do it, the air will come out and if it have nothing to replace it then its pointless lol.
or use an air lift to create a vacuum in the system and then allow the vacuum to pull the coolant in.
@@angerskarin9222 Yes, they just keep adding more air, lol.
Fixing the design was hilarious to watch. I would absolutely watch a series where you take expensive, poorly designed products and fix them so they work better.
they didn't really fix it though/
@ffggggggg452doesnt cool as good and quiet and some people like the apperances of water cooling
@@monkey3582 "as good and quiet" let me introduce you to noctua then
@@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 what about using noctua radiators?? I mean liquid is just better at conducting heat
@@monkey3582 You are aware it's the exact same principle on both cases, right ?
You are aware there is water in the pipes of air coolers, right ?
You are aware that watercooling are just air coolers with a different setup, right ?
The only benefit of watercooling is having bigger radiators (more than 360mm) and more clearance on the mobo, otherwise the risks of leaks and defect products are not worth it.
If you want performances, low prices and low noise levels, go to noctua. Pumps and watercooling fans are louder, and overall more expensive.
That 10 day warranty makes me think of when I ordered a car part off a website and they had a 12 day warranty... from PURCHASE DATE... and it took 15 DAYS FOR THE PART TO BE DELIEVERED.
Lol that just can't be legally correct, can it?
@@99xara99 Idk, but that was like 10 years ago so I'm not too worried about it now
@@99xara99 In countries with mandatory warranty (like Germany and probably most/all of the EU): No chance. But if the warranty is compltely optional and up to the seller I guess they can do whatever stupid shit they want...
@@99xara99 I don't know about Canada.
Important EDIT: in the US, this may vary for each state. But at the federal level, this is nothing stopping it
But in the US, if it is part of the contract of the warranty, a "starts on purchase date" clause for a warranty is entirely legal.
Or rather, there is no law or precedent preventing such a clause from being in a warranty contract, or to render it unenforceable.
And you are going to be hard pressed to find companies that offer warranty terms that start with the arrival date. (Another reason why one should consider buying from a brick and mortar store)
@@TechSY730 thats just absolutly insane to me
as ThiefMaster has stated in my country(Germany) such a clause would be illegal to no end.
even ignoring the EXTREMLY short time for it(10 days isnt even covering the 14 days "no questions asked" return policy that is mandatory for "Fernmeldegesschäfte" (aka purchases done via the phone or internet etc) and that is just the icebeerg
I'm now convinced that, with 100% reliability, Linus + Alex + Messing around with literally anything = Banger video
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@@tom6nicole stop using that acronym you numpty
I'd love to hang out with these two just once... Throw Kris in the mix and you gotta party 🎉😂
They think hard for the script
I just love how Linus comes back from ''there is no such thing as a bad product'' while somebody is throwing tiny plastic baby's in the fan. The IQ level is superb
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you guys should attempt to make your own version in a day and see how much better it is than the "official" product
This!
They kinda just did
they technically did back when they water cooled the old office back in 2013.
make the LTT Water Cooler.
They did a while ago with fans strapped to a car radiator
These product reviews keep getting weirder and I’m here for it.
I really thought is was going to be a useful product.
This review gets stranger and stranger...
Yes. It makes it even more funny
The impromptu baby shower adds a nice touch.
"and I’m here for it." What does this mean?
You guys should make this a thing. Fixing bad product designs and making them better/work 🎉😊
there isnt many of them out there, cos you know, if it didnt work, it wouldnt even sell one unit.
That's how the screwdriver started, basically.
@@MrPaxio There's a lot more than you might think, particularly with sketchy/scammy sellers. It's just that a lot of people are smart enough to avoid them entirely.
@@sireuchre but realistically the LTT screwdriver isn't better than the compeition.... but their version of this could really be better!
@@JimSefton do you own one? From the launch video, and the various people trying it out, including various tradesmen, it has been received really well. Linus didn't mess around.
What you do is add a neck to the fill port, with a funnel. The same way a radiator fill on a older vehicles work. As air escapes, the air bubbles out taking some water with it, but due to the shape of a funnel at the top, the water wouldn't splash out and be recovered as it drains back into the fill hole.
Would be kinda hilarious if there's instructions for it somewhere on like their website (or probably in their Tiktok or something stupid like one of these chinese superapps)
The cold supply line too should be on the bottom of the radiator enclosure, having both at the same level is peak dumb, all i can say is liquid cooling a PC appears to have people not understanding what has already been worked out in home heating water runs and cars for 100+ years
As an auto mechanic I could have had that filled in about 5 minutes. I bet it even included a funnel and fittings to do it.
Now we absolutely NEED a diy external cooler made by Linus and Alex.
They should just use a car radiator. Would absolutely love to see it
@@hobbypyromane2.05pretty sure they’ve done so for one of their sub 0 projects, might be wrong
I mean they practically signed themselves up
@@hulime those were pretty barebones and diy. The real thing would be to see an actually viable and basically purchasable thing like this one
Here is one that is cheaper than what Linus showed and actually works. Look up MO-RA3.
17:11 The pitch of the sound the blades make in standard A440 tuning is about E flat -ish (before it starts slowing down), so about 622Hz. The fans have 11 blades, so I'd say they are spinning at about 622Hz*60s/11≈3400rpm.
we have a wizard here
Perfect pitch posse, RISE UP.
@@eddievhfan1984 I wish xd
Just tested with my keyboard
😮
I fourier transformed it - can confirm
I kinda want to see more videos where they use the insane amount of resources and knowledge they have in the Lab to fix shitty products
Remember when Linus drilled a hole in a PC case to increase it's thermals to 10 degrees?
This seems like something someone from a shitty product company would say... And I'm totally on board with it.
That'd be such a cool series!!!
"We fixed your $h*t"
@@shipwreck9146 Best I could come up with was "Lab Rejects" -- I think you got the better idea.
Linus says it's from Japan, but every piece of information I can find about the company, including their own website, suggests they're Chinese.
Big No No! 😂
I like how all the electricity stuff is right at the bottom instead of the top, that way it auto shuts off when there is a leak inside.
It's a safety feature!
Or explodes in spectacular fashion.
@@chrisbaker8533 This thing is getting 12 V max... I don't see it exploding, but the controller boards WILL go up in smoke if you're unlucky.
This entire design is so extremely backwards, I'm almost sure they never actually tested this before bringing it to market.
Don't worry, the plastic babies will keep the computer safe.
@@drinkoldcoke Ok, makes sense, I didn't think of that at all. It just shows the thought they put into it.
I would love to see a self-made version of this, stomping the original 😄
Really wouldn't be hard. Just get a MO-RA360, Heatkiller Reservoir with D5 pump, 9 Arctic 120mm fans, EK soft tubes and fittings and couple of quick disconnects and that's it.
I'm surprised their product is so bad, it's not that hard right now to do this so kinda no excuse.
@@theduck17 I know, it would be easy af, but I wanna see them both building something stupid again 😄
Its called the desk of radiators. Made by Alex. Look it up.
Something with a huge radiator that leaks, no they've done that.
If we are doing outer of case cooling. How about heating hot tub etc
That fact that they noticed the problem instantly is hilarious. It really shows their level of experience with these types of things😂
I think it speaks more to the crap design - Hell, I noticed it as soon as we saw the bubbles pull into the pump, and I've never even been around a water cooled system.
I've not built anywhere near as many watercooled builds as Linus or Alex, but I've definitely made all the same mistakes this product had, so I knew exactly where to look.
They never even read the manual.
@@J0SHUAKANE Right, if you don't understand the design. Maybe glance at the instruction guide.
@@J0SHUAKANE and how exactly does the manual fix a fatal design flaw?
Linus, if you decide to make one of these google "swirl pot". It's a dead simple air separating device. Also generally when bleeding a system you feed fluid in while allowing the fluid to flow out into a catch at the other end of the loop until it is free of bubbles.
I really want to see you guys making an external cooler like this and in a way DIY guys could use to build it.
I went searching for exactly this comment! I think they could split it into two videos; one for entry level DIYers (no industrial equipment) and one of the best LTT can make with parts and equipment on hand
Agreed
@@dtfech you can make one with just home depo parts or your local equivalent it would probably cost you around 30 bucks for the materials. I made one for my next build, because there are legit no good eatx cases on the market rn for a reasonable price. I just welded a frame together i can fit 4 360rads in it i got a old PSU to power it and a cheap LCD fan controller on the front, i got a large metal mesh on the sides with a filter below it that just slides on and off. I only got 2 rads in it now but it's keeping my old gtx1070 and Ryzen 5 1600 at like 25 degrees idel and a peak of 50-60 degrees when gaming and that's with 6 year old thermal paste.
it would feel fair if during DIY project they stay in the same price range as this product, to se if they can make something better for the same money
Well i was gonna write that XD
For anyone looking to actually do something similar to this, the MoRa and Supernova line of radiators work great for this purpose
Can confirm, I have a MoRa3 420 rad and it keeps my 1080ti in high 30s when under load with a OC
I have a MoRa 420 as well. Works great.
I’m glad I’m not the only one, can’t wait to get my first MoRa
Yeah MoRa owner here, only 360 MoRa that i mount on the outside of my Case!
Where can you buy in US?
It's crazy how fast they fixed the products design flaw just on the fly. Hopefully the manufacturer just, you know, does that. lol
More like bad documentation, They could have used the rear ports to bleed air from the loop before connecting it to the PC.
It was built wrong from the factory, I have the 360mm version of this and my fill/exhaust ports were installed correctly. I think whoever built this one mixed up where the fill & exhaust ports go.
@@kingdom9214 fair enough. lol
This looks like the perfect opportunity to use all the fabrication tools LTT has to build a more elegant solution. Then either sell the unit in low volumes or release the schematics and build files as open source. Showing that process of semi-professional product design, engineering and "release" would be really awesome.
LTT open source designs would be fun.
Their old radiator video comes to mind.
lol, sounds like a recipe for disaster. These guys are far from engineers.
@@sqlevolicious I mean, the company who built this cooler supposedly had an engineer and look what happened.
The LTT folks identified the issues and have plenty of skilled staff and the equipment to iterate on this. Besides, there are no failures, only content.
I would love to see you guys take parts of this and make it the way it should have been. Use the same Radiator but use better fans and your own water revisors to make it perfect. Maybe even showing us how to build one ourselves. I think this is a great idea for a product i just dont know how they messed up so badly
For something that size, I wonder if it could cool multiple PCs. That would be a good use case. Instead of having 3 giant PC towers, you have the huge-ass radiator and 3 small form-factor PCs. I think they did a desk where the fans were on the desk, and that was a good example.
A trick to fill impossible loops is put a T and a valve in, then pull a vacuum on the coolant system, close the valve, put a tube in your liquid and connect it to the closed valve, then open and watch the water shoot through the entire system. Works every time on my last four builds.
And everyone has 1 of those 😁🤔
@Karl Berget Alright, it's OK. Who knows - his other builds could've had strange edge cases like some of LTT's videos tend to + He's just posting a tip!
Or you could just stick the return tube into the bottle of water....
Or do the same thing they did with one of the chillers. Just have a pressurized fill source. Which technically is what you're doing with a vacuum on the exit port.
This is basically how refrigerant systems are filled and the same concept behind how automotive coolant systems bleed themselves too. Actually a good tip.
As a note - you're using too much pressure when you tested the external radiator setup on its own. 0.3 bar is the recommended maximum for a complete loop, or anything involving a distribution plate. There's a chance to damage it running pressure that high. EK notes this in the manual.
I have a tip for filling hard to fill things like that radiator, a ptreol hand pump for a outboard motor works great to push liquid through with the system off!
I was not expecting a plaintive cry of "Stop putting babies in the computeeeer!", in this review, but I think I love it. If you can fully explain why a terrible product is the way it is, and then try to fix it, that's content gold right there.
I just wanna thank David for the camerawork and the sound bytes during the video. Please keep up the good work.
I feel a lot better about myself after seeing these two try to fill a coolant circuit
this seems like something that you guys could overhaul into something amazing, a followup would be great
Pro tip: use a Mityvac MV6400 automotive pressure bleeder with the MV588 transmission adapter for complex loops. It threads into G1/4 and you can power bleed any loop no matter how complex. Put 2 valves at the end of the loop to block flow and open a drain and you can perform coolant changes in record time WITHOUT losing prime. Bonus is its 1 gallon so you can mix your distilled water and coolant concentrate right inside it. I have 4 radiators and 2 pumps in a o11 XL and needed a solution for maintenance, and this is what I found works best!
Even the little funnels you can get with a G1/4 fitting on them would've improved this, lol
Or just buy a Aquacomputer Leakshield, I fill my system thru the EK drain fitting on my GPU block with it's internal vacuum pump and use the auto deaeration cycle a couple times afterwards, shit's cash. vac pump sensors valves and a display all built into the reservoir cap, and the matching D5 NeXt pump has it's own water temp sensor, pump controller, display and fan controller so you just flash the desired fan curves into it once thru software and it does it's own thing with fan/pump speeds. Can even display system info like cpu temps etc on either display. caveat- pump only has 1 fan output so you can only daisy-chain 3-4 or just get a splitty9 to control more like i did
Exactly. A cheap brake bleeder and a tank full of water would have prevented them most certainly damaging the pump from running it dry.
@@eclipsegst9419 If that's required to run this, then the design is inherently flawed. This isn't a car brake system, it's (well it should be) a relatively simple water cooling loop.
@@TheEchelon not required. A little patience would have worked fine. But if they were in a hurry they should have used the right tool to hurry the process.
I love how during the intro, when Alex hands Linus the box, he stays close by to make sure Linus doesn't drop the thing before they even get to test it 😂 ❤
For future reference: a fitting with a length of tube can be screwed in to the fill port to give it some wiggle room on backflow gurgles and running dry. Wider tube the better.
First we got the external GPUs, now we have external coolers, next each part of the PC will be kept in entirely separate rooms to ensure maximum cooling.
Also, "We would have made it better than this" *Flashbacks to the PT Cruiser Cooler video*
and maximum silence.
Isn't that just 1960s like Computers 😂
The Pt Cruiser was the worst car Ive ever owned in my life
You jest, but I'm sure I've seen someone e's watercooling system with a radiator OUTSIDE and the tubing run through the wall.
me, when I was like 14: why have a case at all, just nail each component to the wall individually and have a big spiderweb of cables running between them
The level of excitement Alex has at 16:42 when they fix the problem is wholesome as fuck
Alex is by far my favorite host. Such a unique intersection of brilliantly deadpan and ridiculously silly.
More people should like this, He just never changed over years of hosting.
For empty rads (or a crappy design), I thought it was common knowledge to just attach a tube to the fill port and lightly blow through it to get the water moving. It also lets you put in a few inches, or even feet, of water at a time and it can't burp on you.
I've actually used a 6-12" tube with a fill cap plug on it on my last 2 builds and it tucks nicely behind front panel on many cases(above front mount fans or rad).
Alternatively, they could have just used a PSU jumper to switch it on and off to power cycle the pump while filling it. Y'know, like sane people.
I'd love to see a build with the MO-RA3 420 as a "How to do this but properly" video. Maybe you could make a project out of it by building a chassis incorporating it into the case?
didn't Aquatuning have an universal external case for that or was it just for the 9x120mm variants?
even the cheaper Phobya Xtreme Nova 1080 would slap the piece of crap they tested here, and that have been on the market since before Linus even break trough on TH-cam...
I use one with 200mm noctua fans, it’s wonderful
I have a mora3 420 with 200mm fans as well, best temps I've ever had and I love the quiet operation 😍
I basically have the MO-RA360 version of this thing that actually works. Using quick disconnects, a Heatkiller res but a D5 pump instead (actually running two, one at the rad and one inside my NR200).
Even have 9 fans like LTTs too, but mine are Arctic fans on a Noctua controller all connected to my mobo so I can monitor and control the fans
I got excited when I saw this product originally announced but dang, what a horrible implementation.
Just spec out your own MO-RA, use EK soft tubes and it'll be way better than that thing.
This has been such a delight to watch, thoroughly enjoyed watching you guys engineer a mod that made it work so quickly too. Hope to see you dig into more crappy products and see what how quickly you can fix them.
The moment he said test your patience i double tapped the screen so hard Linus personally knows us now
You slipped 10 secs if you're on a phone
@@rustler08 I think he actually said “rest your Asians”.
@@Αθηνά_Στεριανάκου you should be able to change the amount it skips by… or use a sponsor-block extension
Not the only one.
I totally want to see that homemade external cooler. You could even sell plans to make it with 3D printers and stuff.
I want an LLT series on there own external rads, Like the radiator table they built I've watched that a half dozen times and it's still great.
i mean they already did that with coolers. I'd watch that
@ Yeah, It's such a shame they have to tear those builds down afterwards, it would be great to see how they stack up. Like the car radiator cooler done right.
Also really curious to see their engineers do their own version of this external rad.
Without a doubt, Alex's LTT vids are probably my favorite lol it's always a good time
I would _love_ to see the Ultimate Cooling Chaos Duo try and one-up this thing in an afternoon! Or better yet, a livestream 😄
It's about time we get a full tower case that triples as a radiator, reservoir and pump. It would have everything you need for water cooling, but it's also a fully functional case!
I'm not talking about a case with all the liquid cooling essentials included inside of it, what i mean is to use each part as a piece of the case. Radiators with included fans for the side panels and top, reservoir front and/or back, and a replaceable pump somewhere easily accessible. Why doesn't this already exist?
This is one of the most entertaining videos you put out in the last couple of months and I love it.
Really enjoyed this video! I was really hoping you would fix their terrible design and you delivered! Nice stuff
i have byksi waterblock on my 4090 and temps are great!
It would be nice to see a follow up to this video where you build your own stand alone water cooler that would be something that the average person could build or buy.
Maybe something that uses a small computer case as the chassie and other off the shelf components. Bet they could for under $690
If you are going with an external radiator like that, you might as well just janky-rig an aquarium chiller.
I have not tried it myself, but I would imagine you might have some condensation problems in the PC if the temperature in the chiller is set too low.
EDIT: It looks like you guys already did one :)
th-cam.com/video/HMtvEbD2MQo/w-d-xo.html
8:01 I absolutely love the fact they were allowed to randomly decorate the pc with straight up random shit, sometimes these things need to happen, you have to take the small victories in life but this one feels just a little bigger than that.
Also, AliExpress are listing the unit for about half what they paid for it.
@@gordon861 How is that related to the comment above?
@@gownerjones No idea, clicked on the wrong one to reply to. Someone was posting about LTT buying from the wrong country. LOL
LMAO guys
very entertaining. I really enjoy the part where you tried fixing their design in a few minutes.
tried? succeeded!
"These are clearly fans..."
That's the kind of information I subscribe to LTT for!
It truly is some hard hitting reporting.
5:00 that line going down and back up would create a syphon effect, making for an easier time filling and less work for the pumps, assuming I understand correctly. It should help prevent stray air bubbles too, if filled with patience :P
I made my own loop just for my GPU out of bykski stuff, and I'm finding it surprisingly excellent.
@@abowden5079 Nah I'm sure the individual components are fine. It's just the integration into a finished product is crap.
Yeah I guess if you connect the fan controller to the motherboard then you are good.
tell this bykski, you should get a job and fix that 690$ mess.
Not particularly unusual for a company to make the BEST individual parts, only to completely crap the bed when it comes to making a self-contained product out of those individual parts they excel at.
They were the only company I could find offering 6900XT SE waterblocks for Sapphire, and its been flawless.
It hurt watching this. Like, paranoid hurt. I'm staring at my case right now.
Has it burned to ashes yet
@@isakgronkvist5871 6900 is AMD not Nvidia so no fires.
@@GoatzombieBubba r9 fury would like a word
Nothing better than than Alex and Linus creating havoc together
It's water hammer! It's squirting when you turn it off because all the momentum in THAT MUCH TUBING suddenly hits the resistance of a stopped pump. Go watch Practical Engineering's video on water hammer.
Also, a vertical tube (with a fitting) on the fill port gives space for water and bubbles to settle in. Stick a funnel in there for even more wiggle room. Easy mode. What are you guys doing?
They owe you $600 for fixing their own product 😂
I've picked up quite a lot of "budget watercooling stuff" off of Ali-Express, including Bykski and my experience of it all has been pretty good.
One can imagine how often the water dispensers in the Bykski offices have to be refilled this weekend.
I'd love to see a follow-up video to this one where you guys build your own better version of it lol
Out of context: 13:05 Linus: “Stop putting babies in the computer! 😩”
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That’s why I have a MORA next to my NCase M1 :) silent pc with easy quick release fittings and a „small“ radiator on the bottom of the case for lan usage … where only older games are running and don’t need much performance
Is all of the added bulk and complexity worth it? I figure I would just go with a good air cooler and be done with it.
@@rubiconnn water cooling is rarely "worth it". I use it because I can have powerful components and never worry about the noise. And also because it is cool.
@@rubiconnn i done it because i wanted a relative small case which is "easy" Transportable to take it every year to the lan during the winter holidays with my friends. And for Gaming at home the NCase M1 is standing on my desk silently. I Have a 3080Ti in It and a Ryze 3700X (time for a Upgrade). At Lan the noise is forgettable. I Dont Like Big Cases but love Silence - i dont use Headphones (only on lans) .. at home i have good speakers.
@@Chloe_Priceless I have a Ryzen 3800x and an RTX 2080 jammed into a tiny Silverstone SB13 case and a tiny Noctua nhl9i CPU cooler and it's more than adaquate for my 3800x running overclocked. I sewed a leather carrying handle for it and take it like everywhere I go lol.
If I could go back in time I would get a degree and work for you. I smile so much when I watch all of LMG's content. Thanks guys n gals. Keep it coming. I watch everything every single day.
I'm sure I'm missing something, but why would you hook up the return line before you'd at least mostly filled it? Let the water push the air ahead of it, not try to fight past it. That said the bubbles being sucked through rather than escaping once the loop is closed is definitely a flaw in the design.
You guys are churning out quality content. Keep up the pace. $700 is wayyy too much for this. A car radiator hooked up to an impeller and tubes would probably be 100x better
Watercool has a Radiator this size for 250 or so. Add Fans and pumps and you're still cheaper...
Was kind of expecting to see a MORA on display. But this is a fine video on a showcase of external watercooling that isn't Linus' own swimming pool
I love how them using this product gave us the same type of chaos you see in an Alex an Linus janky cooling project video.
A few years ago i watercooled a 2700x and 5700xt entirely with Bykski products, water blocks and all, just to test the parts and see whether or not they were any good. It was ridiculously cheap to do so i said eh why not. It ended up working great, none of the fittings ever leaked over my 2 year use of the machine, no oxidation from bad metal alloys or anything. Overall great experience and i think i watercooled the entire system for something like 250 bucks, ended up overclocking that gpu within top 2% of the world or something like that
Looks a lot like a Watercool MO-RA3. I've been using one of those for years and it's great. It uses 4 noctua 200mm NF-A20s and I can't hear it no matter the load but it stays cool nonetheless.
Edit: lol that price, yeah get a mor-ra3 made in Germany for 200 euros and add your own noctua fans and a good reservoir and D5 pump.
It's closer to an Alphacool SuperNova than a Watercool MO-RA. The former uses flat tubes like most radiators while the latter uses round tubes.
Same here! Feeding 500 watts into gpu+cpu when running at full blast has never been more quiet - as in, literally the same noise level as when idling. I'll never go back to a noisy air cooled solution.
Got the same setup, except for 9 Arctic p14! Love the combination of a MO-RA3 and a small case.
I own a Zalman Reserator
@GH0STST4RSCR34M MO-RA pre-dates that significantly.
I would actually like to see Linus and Alex make a better external watercooling rad. Because i absolutely think they'll do a good job of it.
They have, it was just called the all radiators desk lol
15:45 Tynan: I've seen worse. Although the babies are marginally concerning.
Yes.... I agree
This is user error in the beginning. They should have connected the qdcs from the rad into one another and fill that first, used the water bottle with the straw from the beginning, fill the rad, then connect it and fill the system. I have a mora3 420 and did it this way. Also use a power supply with a jumper so the components aren't at risk and over heat while waiting on water.
The first PC i ever build myself was cooled by a thermaltake Rocket. I loved that thing so much that im still trying to find one to use in my current build. Just not gunked up and looking like its 100 years old.
Looks rather simple design. You should be able to reproduce clone rather easily if some parts are gone crusty. Mind you can now days 3D print and cast plastic, well as make silicone molds that was before required pretty excessive amount of money.
good old linus and alex crazy shenanigans with water cooling, loving this energy
The crying baby sound got a giggle out of me every time. Whoever came up with that gag is a messed up SOB, and I'm all for it 😂
Where did the baby thing come from? My first guess is always TikTok
Where can I bid on this item?
Bykski has been as mainstream as EK and Bitspower on pretty much every watercooling product store for well over 5 years now lol.
That was chaotic and rewarding to watch lmao.
Definitely one of my favorite videos from LTT
I would love to see how one of the old external passive tower coolers actually work. I was alway curious.
You were lucky you didn't destroy the pump. Process: 1/ use a bucket and place it 50cm above the radiator. 2/ Then a second 10-20cm below the radiator. 3/ Open the top valve and let the water flow. 4/ Once the water comes out in the bottom bucket, close the bottom pipe. 5/ Turn the radiator up side down to expel the air. => no risk of electrocution or destruction of the pump.
always gets me, how much fun it looks like he's having, and then how stressed he is off camera. blows my mind O-o
Imagine still using “O-o”
I do like Bykski, I had a pair of Bykski water blocks as they're the only one who made blocks for the Sapphire Vega64 Nitro, they were amazing blocks and really really well made. I was very apprehensive when buying them as like Linus, I had never looked into them.
I have a MO-RA from Watercool, and it’s a great external rad. It wasn’t cheap, but the quality was great.
I have it connected to a Meshlicious, and I one day want to hook it up to something even smaller.
The PC may grow outdated, but a radiator is a radiator. I plan to re-use it for builds to come.
I have the exact same setup! And I also keep looking for a smaller cases.. but if the cards keep growing it’s gonna be difficult 😅
have the Phobya Nova 1080 because the price on the older MO-RA units back in the day where even more ridiculous than they are today, and even the Phobya is absurd in terms of cooling.
have 4x Silverstone 180mm fans running at 450rpm and my old Dual Opteron 290+Geforce 7800GTX-512 SLI build never passed 60*C.
even managed to get waterblocks for the Tyan motherboard keeping that hot potato of an nforce chipset chilled.
not having the heart to take it out of that build, also the "pentium pro"-era NEC server case that is modded to have that rad at the side will turn structural unstable without it x)
@@brrebrresen1367 what did pay for that phobya. Maybe I am lucky, I am from Germany and since Watercool is a German company I payed 200€ (including postage) for the Mo-Ra 3 420
my 3080 never goes above 35°C even at room temps of 30
@@TheZRasmus back then 15-ish years ago the Phobya 1080 was around 80€ incl VAT here as i remember, think only the now old MO-RA2 was released (no MO-RA3) and that was 150€ and had to be imported (so shipping, taxes and whatnot...) but you also needed to buy a 30+€ grill to mount fans and it only took 120mm fans, no possibility for 180mm.
think i found out that if i wanted a MO-RA instead it would have been 300+ € back then...
@@brrebrresen1367 ahh, I would have decided as you did.. in fact I decided for the MoRa because it was cheaper than a LianLi 3 rads and had more cooling power
You guys just hit 6.9 billion views... That's a pretty nice milestone if you ask me
This probably would have been easier with the NR200MAX instead of the NR200P. The GPU mounts a little lower in the chassis in that one. I also had concerns about water making it all the way from the inlet to the outlet with how much radiator there is there.
The idea is kinda cool. You could have an absolutely inaudibly silent system by just moving all the cooling to another room! 😃
...well, at least it would be silent until you hit your modern high-end GPU with a gaming/production workload and the coils start singing the songs of their people 😂
@2:40 why would i want an ITX case on the desk and that huge external cooler next to my desk? At this point just have a bigger Case sitting next to your desk and spare the hasse and maybe even save money
3:58 EK only recommends using 0.3 bar of pressure for leak testing a whole loop.
This reminds me of my apprentices trying to fill & bleed a boiler system for the first time. Let gravity and pre-filling everything possible guide you, fellas.
JayzTwoCents made a video about this type of cooling setup. A few years back, it wasn’t built by a 3rd party company. He took aluminum channel framing, 4 - 480mm radiators (I believe), 1 box fan and then stuck the radiators to the fan. It did really well for being homemade.
I have a byksi GPU block that cost a 1/4 of EK's stuff and its been working flawlessly for me. Also have that flow and water temp meter combo unit that was like $20 and it works great.
They're manufacturing quality is just very good now... chinese have all the damn money and some of them reinvest them wisely on quality.
Put a funnel at the top that way it has room to bubble without going everywhere, this is about as poorly designed as a lot of car coolant system designs that’s why they make funnel fill adapter kits that lock into the radiator or reservoir fill and give a large area to bleed it
You should put some Noctua PPCs or Phanteks T30s on that giant rad and mod the reservoir to fix it, then it would be an awesome external rad, and less jank than the PT Cruiser radiator.
This is one of the best videos on this channel that I've watched. While it's factual where it can be, everyone is also having so much fun. Thanks for a great channel :)
Actually Bykski waterblocks are great quality. They were the only ones to make a Europe available waterblock for the Gigabyte 30 series cards and I ran one on a 3080 Gaming OC and the block was great. Temps are good, flow rate is fine, the machining is great. Looks and performs no worse then a Alphacool block for example.
If they have experience how did they fuck this one up so bad?
@@NekoiNemo I doubt that's the case. The feed hole kept spitting back at them, both with the thing turned on AND off. How are you supposed to do it then? You can probably find the manual online
Mate… “great quality” “machining is great”… we see what type of quality it is in the video and how bad they did
If you have to fix or modify it to the point that you can’t close it ever then it’s not “great”
Update: I couldn't find the manual online. That is really not confidence inspiring. Along with other issues like no integrated fan control, the dinky power cable that relies on your motherboard that can easily be accidentally ripped out, possibly damaging your pc or motherboard, and the noise out of the box, as well as the niche use case (if you're gonna use this to cool your small form factor pc, why not get a bigger case with better cooling instead?), this is still a bad product, even if Linus' trouble getting the loop bled was their own fault.
How much did they pay you to make this comment?
Ngl these videos are way more entertaining than actually informative tech vids