HOW-TO ArduPlane on Omnibus F4 Pro and other boards!!!
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OK guys, here is the HOW-TO in order to get the ArduPlane code, or any of the other ArduPilot model codes, onto an Omnibus F4 Pro board, as well as some other compatible boards of the "racing" kind!
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I look forward to hearing more about this! Well done.
Thanks Gary! Will see you tomorrow! :)
Excellent summary, I was thinking of making something like this on Sunday but now glad I didn't bother :)
Just a few things I might add:
Hold down the boot button on the board while plugging in for DFU mode if Betaflight configurator doesn't do it.
If you don't have 8 channels or don't want channel 8 as flight mode, set the FLTMODE_CH parameter as desired.
Flashing the "with_bl" hex via Betaflight will reset all your parameters to defaults, using the .apj via MP will not.
On my omnibus builds so far, I had to set BATT_MONITOR to 4 to enable voltage and current sensing.
Thanks for the added comments!
please, do more video about this, as detail as possible, maybe add one for the Matek F405 Wing board.
Valid points mate, thanks for sharing them!
This is great new. What a boost to the ardupilot project being able to use new hardware like the f411 and omnibus f4 with built in osd. I cut my flight controller teeth with ardoplane. Its maturity and stability will always find its way into my airframes. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks mate, yes, I do share the same enthusiasm! Can't seem to get away from it! :D
Really appreciate your video content. This inspired me to try to learn Arduplane and installation on an Omnibus F4Pro Flight Controller. At first it seemed like a lot of confusing detail, but as i worked through the installation it all seems to make sense. Will be maidening my plane here soon. Thanks again!!
Glad to hear this mate! Good luck with your maiden! :)
i've been waiting for this after watching the phoenix v2 with arduplane,thank you for sharing...again a great video from "the angel"
Haha, thanks mate, appreciate it! :)
This never gets old, i like using ardupilot on my DIY projects, just applied this method to make my 8`` quad work, thanks again.
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Hahahaha, glad you got it working! Will keep this in mind! :P
Great vid thanks. A long time are uplift user I had no idea you could manipulate the osd through the parameter tree.....makes me happy.
Haha, glad you have found it helpful! :)
Thank you
You are welcome! :)
Excellent tutorial, thank you! Very clear and concise.
Thank you! :)
Thanks you for your fast respons. Then i will go that way to. I have the omnibus f4 v3 but i saw that will work to .the Weather is bad so i can start building.keep the good work coming cheers
Thanks mate, will do! :) Good luck to you too!
This is exactly what I have been looking for! Great information!!
Thanks mate! :)
Finally a proper, easy tutorial :D Thanks
Thanks mate. :)
Excellent tutorial. I saw the Omnibus listed when I recently flashed a Pixhawk -- great to see they're porting ArduPilot to a larger variety of hardware. I actually have an F4 Pro laying around and may give this a try 👍
Thanks! Actually... ArduPilot are dropping support for the old architecture and will be focusing only on these new ChibiOS builds... so things should get even better! :)
@@ArxangelRC Looking forward to that
We all are! :)
hey mate great vid made it so easy to flash my nano v6 now doing more for my friends cheers thanks
Glad it has helped! :)
Great show...hope to try this very soon.
Thanks, good luck!
Great description!
Thank you!
masha Allah, fantastic, thank you for this brother, insha Allah will try this soon
Thanks mate, good luck! :)
Great video! I forgot to mention disabling the GPS!
Disabling GPS?
Bravo Nikola! :-)
Thanks mate.
Great video by the way. Thank you for sharing. This is a great step forward for the ArduPilot community. One question, I noticed you are showing GPS info in mission planner but did not see where you had a GPS installed on the board. Do you have one installed? Are there any additional steps in setting one up? Do you even need one? Are you able to fly without one?
Thanks mate! On the ArduPilot website there is a schematic where to connect everything, the GPS goes in the white port just next to the servo outputs. I do have one installed and at least with ArduPilot, it does not require any additional setup, other than plugging it in! The FC will do all the programming it needs to on its own! Generally, you need a GPS unit in order to have a working RTH mode, as well as Auto mode, which also includes waypoints, etc. You can still fly without a GPS module, but you will really only be able to use the stabilized modes, and no autonomous modes.
Excellent! I have one question . Do you know if mavlink telemetry radios can be used with this board?
Yes, if you see the video that was published before that one, showing the Phoenix flying with this board, I did mention I did have telemetry running, and it is working well! Will also be in the build log in the blog when I am done with it! :)
good video and well explained.
that is the configuration of the osd for a single screen, or to see it in several screens ?.
What would be the difference in the configuration ?. Thanks in advance.
Thanks! This is only for a single screen, because I don't use multiple anyway... why add one more complication to an already complicated system! BUT... if you would like to set it up, just enable the additional screens and set a channel to change them with, then just configure like this one!
Very informative video... thank you!
Did you manage to get FrSky Telemetry through one of the UARTS? I have an Omnibus V3 (not pro) and everything works but telemetry for my Taranis.
Thanks! Actually I have not tried doing that... not sure if it will work, and I don't really use it! Have found that receivers without telemetry work better and at longer distances so, have tried not to use telemetry as much as possible! :)
I'd like to know if you ever got telemetry working. I have the V3 pro and no luck so far. Information I'd incomplete on the arduplane site.
in Ardupilot , For wing or plane. necessary to use a compass or not?
Already replied to your other comment!
Hi! Did you connect and configure the 3DR Radio with Omnibus F4 board? I can't do it...
At this point I can't recall if I ever used telemetry with this board!
Hey, I would like to flash my Omnibus F4 Pro V2 with Arduplane. When connecting to SBus, do you need to modify anything or it just work fine? Thanks!
Nothing to modify... just plug in the cable, and you're done! Should work....
Is there a way to use the onboard OSD that some boards offer? The miniosd os a bit of a pain..
Yes... both with iNav and now with the ArduPilot code, you have support for the OSD and can use it! Exactly how I've used it here!
dumb question.. does disabling compass for arduopter help flight performance eg less flyaway etc?
I wouldn't disable the compass for Arducopter!!!! You can get away with this on ArduPlane, but not on the copter!
Thanks again for posting this tutorial. I managed to get everything to work thanks to your help. One question is regarding peripherals. Have you managed to get anything like 3DR radio or even RFD 900 radios to connect? I would like to still use some of my old equipment for my pixhawk like here2 GPS and radio telemetry. I notice you do long range. How do you track your location on the ground station during the long range if Unable to connect Long range telemetry radio?
Glad it has helped you! Yes, I am running the Micro Telemetry units with these, and all works quite good! I use them only for setup though, never when I do actual long range flights! I do have an antenna tracker, and that points the video antenna to the plane at all times, and it outputs the coordinates to my tablet where it is overlaying them on the map! I also have my OSD data, which is recorded on the ground DVR! I fly myself... so I always know where the plane is!
Very good but GEEZE man take a breath once in a while !! WHEW !!
Hahahahahahaha... breathing is overrated! :P
Hi, is possible to connect a pitot tube in this board?
To be honest I am not certain about this one, as I've never had any interest in an airspeed sensor... so I never did looking how it can be done on this board, but I know the Matek Wing controllers can have an airspeed connected, as they even have a dedicated pin for it!
I have installed Arduplane (fixed wing) on an Omnibus F4Pro Flight Controller, linked via FrSky X8R Rx to my Taranis X9D Plus. While sitting on the bench I am testing the various flight modes and they switch properly. My question is when I am in manual mode w/ 50% throttle and I switch to Cruise mode the motor stops - is this normal behavior on the bench? I am nervous to test it in the air as I am not sure what the response will be.
Any help appreciated.
Hi, I haven't tested that particular scenario, but my experience with these things is that while stationary and possibly with no GPS lock, the flight modes might act weirdly! This should be tested in the air and you can always switch out of it if it doesn't perform well! For me it might make sense that it would cut the motor, because the Cruise mode does not allow for direct motor control, you apply elevator to tell it to gain altitude, at which point the AP increases throttle on its own, if needed, to achieve that altitude gain! Just like with RTL on the ground, when you switch to it while stationary and possibly with no GPS lock, it will not spin the motor.
Thanks... For video
You are welcome! :)
There is a bit more than you mention in the video above but as you said, it will require some fiddling to set it up on Omnibus..
Getting into the nitty gritty of ArduPilot would require a huge video on its own!!! :)
Hi omnibus f4 pro v2.How did you get rx sbus working?.i only got ppm signal.but in inav sbus work well.(sorry for my bad english😶)
I haven't really done anything special! Just plug it in and it works... have never had issues!
Thanks for all your good work. Do you preffer this above inav? I have a ranger 2000 but do not know what to use for sure as flight controller. Thnx again
Yes, I do prefer this to iNav any day! The ArduPlane firmware is quite mature and I've been using it for years now, not a single issue! iNav can't seem to get away from issues!
@@ArxangelRC hello again i have been using omnibus f4 v2 like you.but wen i give throttle up all goes good until 1500 pwm .Wen i go higher up till 2000 pwm the motor starts to stutter (up down up down up down) i did calibrate the esc.also did the radio calibration. is there a param i have to change? thanks in advance
Very good
Thanks! :)
Which is the latest version of the board now which will still work with arduplane?
They all work with ArduPlane... the board version doesn't matter... if it is an Omni F4 Pro, it should work!
Minha f405 ctr da matek não reconhece o cartão de memória da mixza 16gb, qual a solução?
Try a different memory card! These boards are picky about that!
Is it possible to use this for the antenna tracker? Sorry I'm late to the game!
I suppose... if there is code available for this board, then yes.
im new to this. i have a question, to get fpv you connect a camera to the flight controller correct? then the flight controller connects to a transmitter? that transmits telemetry and video correct?
The analogue video transmitters we use most commonly only transmit video, not telemetry! The data on the screen comes from the OSD module, which is in the flight controller, which overlays the data on the video feed as it passes through it, before going to the Vtx.
@@ArxangelRC so the telemetry gets sent as an overlay...got ya, thanks for the reply. im a drone guy and have been doing high altitude stuff.and im just migrating over to endurance flight with rc aircraft
@@Yelnats101 Cool! Good luck then, it is quite nice to be able to fly for much longer! :)
Note - I could not get this procedure to work with BF 10.7.0, it did work with iNav 2.5.0 though.
Hmmm... good to know!
What would be a similar FC for todays chip market? All omnibus f4 are out of stock
I am not sure to be honest! Things have changed quite a bit, I am not quite up to speed on the latest Matek FC stuff! :)
Could this board handle 6s liion battery?
I don't remember off the top of my head the FC's specs, but I think so, yes.
Can I use 433uhf receiver for this setup?
Don't see a reason why not, only requirement is that the receiver can output SBUS or CPPM.
good video and well explained. Have you removed the diode as shown on the wiki of arduplane? I've got the same fc and I've removed the diode following the wiki. Can I use the same your wiring?
Thanks Giuliano! No, on this board I have not removed the diode, but the wiring would be the same either way! I only removed it on the Mini AR Wing, because I wanted to keep things simple and light, and had to power the servos from that rail! On other models it makes no difference because I don't power anything from that rail!
@@ArxangelRC Thank you for your reply. Can you send me a pic of the wiring for Omnibus f4 with the the removed diode? Thanks in advance for your patience :)
The Diode doesn't matter, the wiring is all the same for me! I connect only servo signal cables to the Omni F4 Pro, and make an external harness to power the servos from a separate SBEC!
Hi, could you also do a smilar video for beaglebone blue.
Not sure what that is! An FC board?
Have you try akk f4 board? Is it compatible with this?
If you are talking about the non-Pro model, I have not tried it because it doesn't have the current sensor in it, and I do prefer to have it on board! Same process should work for it though!
Thanks for the video. I'm hoping to use my omnibus f4 pro v3 on my hexcopter with arducopter, but have run into some problems. How did you get the current sensing to work? Whenever I try to set it up it comes up with some message about incorrect battery capacity. Thank you in advance
I didn't really do much... enabled the sensor, entered the battery capacity in the battery capacity field on top right part of the screen where you enable the batt monitoring. Should be doable like any other power module on pixhawk. I think you will also have to input the amps per voltz ratio... or something like that... I think I read somewhere a value of around 31 or 32 is to be used... not sure what it does, and I am still not done calibrating it, but at least it shows some value! :D
What type did you set the current sensor to?
Turned out it was working all along :p I thought it wasn't because of the capacity error. I'm looking forward to testing it and hope it will work better than inav.
Haha, glad you figured it out, should be working OK, though these things are never super precise! :)
Hey bro great video detailing the steps! can you add link to the page on 0:16 too?
Sure: ardupilot.org/plane/docs/common-omnibusf4pro.html
For some reason I dont see the full param list or full param tree but only see the basic param list. Do you know why this might be happening?
Edit: I found I had to change some settings in mission planner and have it working now :)
Yeah, sorry for the delay! :) You should enable that in the settings! :)
Excellent tutorial to flash from say Betaflight to Ardupilot. However, I am struggling to flash BACK to Betaflight.
Yes, a few people have mentioned that... will have to look at how this can be achieved and might post something on it if I find a way!
I have some issue with radio calibration. The channel not responding even rx is attached and bind perfectly. I use Omnibus F4 V3, taranis x9d with xm+ receiver. Is there any configuration I missed?
I can't be certain here... but on the V3 there was some issue with the ports... and some adjustments had to be done, but since I have not dealt with the V3 board... I really can't say for sure what the issue is! I remember another reviewed had tacked this issue with the V3 boards... and I have watched the videos... but for the life of me can't quite recall who it was!!! :S
@@ArxangelRC sorry my bad, I missed to move sbus to pwm. Just resoldering and problem is solved. Now I can fly my rc with autonomous flight and other mode perfectly.
@@prudisme Awesome!! Good luck! :)
Will it also work on Omnibus f4 v3??? (Not pro)
Hmmmm... I might, but some ports might be mapped differently, so look into that before doing it!
I'm looking for an as small and portable as possible way to get into semi long range fpv, and I was thinking of the nano talon running ardupilot. Are there any better planes out there for this purpose?
The Nano Talon would require a few mods to make it fly OK... although depends on what you really are after! The XK A1200 is a nice model, but it is a lot lighter and may not be as durable in higher winds! The Nano Talon fills a niche and I can't easily think of an alternative at this size and ability!
@@ArxangelRC the a1200 looks nice, but it's just too big for what I'm after. I watched all your videos on the nano talon and besides inav giving you the finger what mods does the nano talon need? I really enjoy your videos man, one of my fav channels for sure.
Thanks mate! Well... there is the flat wing mod, which I will do soon, and then people also put winglets, and wing fences, vortex generators, etc., it ends up looking pretty weird, hence why I have been so sparing with mods on mine, because I would still like to be able to put it back in its original box... though at some point I might sacrifice that for the sake of a good looking flight!
@@ArxangelRC hahaha allright, I'm down for as many mods as long as compactness isn't sacrificed, please make more videos on the thing soon, I can't wait.
Will do, but vacation time is coming up... so there might be a slight delay! :)
Thanks for the video. Do you have negatives about this board? If so good why to pay more for a Matek 405 then? I'm thinking about converting from Matek to this. thanks for your advice !
Well... the Matek WING boards are well worth it! EVERYTHING is integrated and the a mount of soldering to be doing is greatly reduced, and made a lot easier! I would pick up a Matek WING over this setup any day!
thanks I thought the Omnibus was so small and about half the price it would be same same...I'll keep with the Matek
@@joseantoniosantosdom It is a bit smaller, and a bit over half the price... but it needs a PDB, etc., to get it to Matek Wing levels... and even then it is more hassle and soldering and wiring than it needs to be! The Wing series just makes this SOOOOO much easier!
@@ArxangelRC thank you for your help, please keep up your videos are excellent
@@joseantoniosantosdom Thank you, will do! :)
Thank you so much, could I ask 2 questions?
1. Why the V-tail plane need compass and other plane better off compass?
2. Could we use the on board sport telemetry with X9D plus? ( I know the FPort is not yet supported )
He said VTOL not V Tail.
Yeah, I said Vtol, not V-tail, although they might sound similar! V-tail is fine without a compass as well!
As for the Sport telemetry... no idea to be honest! On the original Pixhawk you could not directly, needed some sort of an adapter to translate the signal... no idea if they have fixed that!
LOL, thank you ^^
You are welcome! :0
I have failed to get rssi displayed on osd. Rssi_type set to 3..i am using r9mm rx. Firmware arduplane 4.0.6 official
As in the value for RSSI displayed on OSD... or to make the RSSI indicator work and see the receiver's signal?
@@ArxangelRCthanks sir for you reply. i prefer to see it as a value in the osd so can give some alert before totally lost the radio signal.
Well you have to enable it in the OSD setup menu!
Thanks again for the great tutorial!
A couple of things I'd like to add- I noticed your positive battery lead is connected to the wrong side of the galvanometer in your photos. I had it connected this way as well and my ammeter was inoperative. After connecting it to the other side it works great. Starting with a BATT_AMP_PERVLT parameter of 37 should get you close on the calibration of AKK boards.
There is a convenient way to fine tune power module calibration: After completing a flight, multiply your BATT_AMP_PERVLT number (usually between 18 and 38) by your Mah put back into the battery, divided by Mah logged. This will give you your new BATT_AMP_PERVLT parameter, and I find it to be very accurate. Here is more info: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2279282-Calibrating-the-APM-Power-Current
I had to remove a diode and a resistor on the AKK board to get everything functioning properly. The diode removal will isolate the servo bus from the rest of the board and is recommended: static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/5/9/3/2/6/3/a9974548-119-OMNIBUSF4Pro%20esc5v%20diode.jpg
The resistor removal will allow PPM to function properly: static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/4/6/4/9/6/a10941401-126-68747470733a2f2f646973637573732e6172647570696c6f742e6f72672f75706c6f6164732f64656661756c742f6f72.png
I've got this in my ZOHD Dart and it works awesome. Having the capability this set up provides for a mere $32 USD (FC & GPS) is amazing!
Well... I've soldered the wires according to the labelling on the board. That being said... on my latest build I will take care of the diode removal, but it is on a very small plane, so I think it should be OK for that, on my larger planes I will always opt for the external power harness! :) Thanks for the useful info! :)
ArxangelRC thanks again for this tutorial! I’m seriously stoked about how well this works for the price.
You are welcome! Yeah, I have 3 of these now, and all seem to be working quite well!
Just to let newcomers know, Mission planner now has OSD GUI. :)
Oh yes, indeed! I've already used it, works rather well!
How do you download the hex file???
Right click with the mouse!
Hi , I need a suggestion and I hope you can help me. I have installed the Ardupilot firmware on Omnibus F4 V2 and the card does not detect the receiver (a FRSKY in sbus D8 mode). I have also installed the GPS and it works well. I can't understand what to do! I tested the same card and receiver in betaflight and the receiver works too. Can you give me a hint? I thank you anyway.
Not sure! What model is the receiver?
@@ArxangelRC is Frsky Pro V1. Thanks and best regards!!!
This is the first time I am hearing of an FrSky receiver called Pro V1!!!!
Problem solved! Receiver on Ppm mode. Sbus not work... Best regards!!!
Glad you figured it out! :)
I have done the same on a Matek F405 wing and everything is working great… I wasn't able to setup the power module could you please help me on that
What exactly is the problem? I've also had a hard time calibrating the current sensor on the Omni F4 Pro boards here... for some reason, although the voltage works perfectly!
Thanks for the quick reply… the problem is that I have what should I do to set the current and voltage sensor in the software side what parameters should I change to get it to work
Have you enabled the sensor?
@@ArxangelRCI did the problem is with the rest of the settings, I will send you some pictures on facebook if you don't mind
Not at all mate, will help if I can! :)
I have the Omnibus F4 V3 (non-pro). I successfully loaded the F4 V3 Pro version on the controller but I cannot get the GPS to work. I have not made any wiring changes from my iNav configuration where the GPS worked perfectly. I am using UART3. Does anyone have any solution? The GPS locks properly but it shows GPS: No GPS in Mission Planner.
Update: So I discovered that when I unplug my FrSky 8XR receiver, the GPS works. Upon further investigation I found this on the ArduPilot Wiki:
"PPM solder pad/resistor should be soldered and “S-BUS” resistor/solder pad removed Otherwise, UART1 or UART6 or RCIN will not work."
Also, GPS on UART3 won't work either.
Alright, sorry for the delay... but I don't think I could have helped with that at all... haven't used the non-Pro version... but I do know there are some differences in the port mapping! So you fixed it?
are you using telemetri module or just the osd ?
I do use a micro telemetry module in the beginning while tuning the plane, then disconnect it as I no longer need it!
@@ArxangelRC thank you!!
You are welcome! :)
Hello,
Please can you connect a telemetry radio to the Omnibus F4 pro ?
If so, how do you do this ?
Hi, in general you can, but I am not sure how exactly because I've never tried it! I remember some people complaining that if you connect telemetry the receiver input stops working, but I can't really say foe sure if that is true, never tried it.
@@ArxangelRC thanks for the reply.
But if you did not connect the telemetry how did you set the mission in mission planner ?
Like how did you get telemetry?
@@ogheneochukoakpojotor7683 I program it with cable prior to taking off.
@@ArxangelRC Also another question ;
What is the max input voltage for the batteries is it 4S or 6S?
@@ogheneochukoakpojotor7683 I think the Omnibus can handle 6S.
Thank you again for the post mate! As always top notch content. One issue I'm having (and suspect it is more of a windows thing) is once I flash ArduPlane firmware via DFU in Betaflight, it no longer creates a com port. Oddly, I can still bootload in DFU mode. Therefore, not even in mission planner, I am able to find the board. However, on my Mac the board appears with no issues. I can use both APM Planner and QGround Control with no issues on Mac. Any suggestions or thoughts? Perhaps others on this commentary have stumbled onto this and can provide any insight? Thanks in advance.
Sounds to me like it might be an issue with the windows drivers!! Search around for a video of the Zadig driver fixer... or something like that, there should be a few videos on youtube about it, give it a try and see if that fixes it!
Are you still using Beta flight in chrome, like I was.
@@GW-zw6wo Yes. I did follow the advice of ArxangelRC and fixed the drivers to find the com port again. It worked. Last issue now is the connection "locks up" in mission planner after a minute into the connection. I tried connecting to QGround Control on my Mac and had no issues. It appears there's some kind of driver/com port issue on my Windows 10 machine. Cheers!
Same "serial port failed" issue trying to flash with W10 drivers and even ones from STM. Running ImpulseRC_Driver_Fixer.exe and reeopening the configurator did the trick.
I have struggled with that as well on my Win10 laptop, and after trying a variety of things... at last it worked... haven't touched it since so as not to mess it up... not sure how though! :D
Getting Ardupilot onto my F405 Wing was easy enough but I can't get seem to get the servo channels mapped correctly in Mission Planner. I waded through the parameter tree but couldn't locate where to remap the servos. Setting up Ardupilot with FCs like the Pixhawk is so easy but working with Chibios is giving me a headache =( I may just give in and go with iNAV on the F405
Why are you trying to remap them in the firmware? What radio are you using? Wouldn't it be easier to do it there? Also... I don't think the params are any different... should have the exact same functionality no matter the hardware.
@@ArxangelRC Thanks. You'd think so but it's not quite so easy. My radio is a FrSky Taranis Plus so Tx programming is straightforward but I'm using separate channels for the ailerons and Mission Planner's servo options don't appear to have a provision for that arrangement - not that I could find, anyway. I also recall seeing some weird conflicts between the channels reported in the Mission Planner radio calibration and another area in the model setup (but I can't remember which screen). Meh. No big deal. I also have an F405 Wing on an S800 Sky Shadow build and may try installing Ardupilot on that one
It should have that and it should be easy! Connect the second aileron to the 5th output on the board... I assume it has it, and then go to the Servo Output tab in Mission Planner, and on the 5th output channel, from the drop down it should have either Ail in the list, or Left and Right Aileron as separate items, just select those accordingly...
@@ArxangelRC Thanks. I'll give that a try sometime this week
@@ArxangelRC HA! I learned something new [again] thanks to you 😁 I've never used Mission Planner to setup a fixed wing craft before and when I searched the params tabs I totally missed the servo channel settings because they're listed as 'RC' and the word "servo" doesn't appear in their descriptions 😝 Anyway, now that I know where they live I'll give it another go. I'm also using an F405-Wing on the Ranger G2 and I think I'll try ArduPilot on that build. Cheers!
Are you removed diode no Omnibus f4 Pro?
Generally no, because I use an external power harness to power servos, so don't connect anything to the power rail on the board! I removed the diode on only one board, the one that went into the Mini AR Wing... because I had to save weight and space, so no external harness and powered the servos from that rail!
Ok thanks!
You are welcome! :)
Hello, I am building my first ardupilot wing and so far things went perfect, like receiver, compass and gps, the problem I got is that when I connect the servos (tower pro SG92R Micro, digital) directly to my receiver they work perfect, but when I plug them (through bec) to the fc (omnibus f4 pro) they dont act smooth and there is a noticeable delay to my inputs (manual mode) compared to the same servo pluged directly to my receiver. Is this something common or there is something I should troubleshoot? (I tried changing receiver and bec but no difference at all. I also pluged an analog servo which seems to work smoother, so are digital servos supported and should I change any settings to make them work?) Thank you
Hi, I am not aware of settings changes between analogue and digital servos, and I've definitely never experienced what you are describing! How have you connected the servos to the flight controller? Only signal wires, or do the GND wires go there as well?
@@ArxangelRC Ground wires also. I have used the esc's bec to power the servos. I checked with a multimeter that there is no voltage in the positive rail that refers to the servos so I plugged the positive and negative from the esc directly to the omnibus.
I also tried to use an external bec but response is the same.
@@ArxangelRC Update: After trying to connect only the ground and signal wires to the fc and keeping (+) away from the board seems to have fixed the problem. Thank you for your time and reply though! Love your vids!
Glad you solved it, but that is a weird issue! I have powered them the same way you described on one of my planes, and they are working fine! Did you remove the diode to separate the servo 5v line from the rest of the board?
@@ArxangelRC No, I haven't actually removed the diode from the board. Also, I have maiden the wing since then and it seems to perform really well both in manual mode and FBW modes. Do you think I should try to remove the diode even though I haven't powered the servos through the board and it flies well? One last question that I came across is that I need to trim the wing in manual mode and in FBWA mode I found my self holding a little up elevator to keep my altitude, should I tweak this from the servo output page where it says "trim"? or might as well calibrate the board while holding the wing in an angle of attack about 2-3° that the wing needs in order to fly straight? (p.s. in RTL it was holding its altitude flawlessly with no problems at all) Thank you so much!!!
I like this video so much.i fly a ranger 2000 and a micro skyhunter with this.and they fly beautyfull. All becourse of this video thanks tot this 👍 now i have a talon and i can 't get the vtail good.look for some video's but cant find one for programming apm .in the full list cant find vtail only in the servo i can change rudder or elevator in vtailright or left i can reverse. But nothing helps. I have been reading apm manueel but still no Luck.am i missing some thing? Please help.
Actually on the Servos tab, it is the vtailright and vtailleft from the dropdown menu, and it should work! DO NOT DO ANY VTAIL MIXING IN THE RADIO!!!! Do the settings only in the autopilot! And just play around with which one is which, and reversing them, until you get them to move in the correct directions!
@@ArxangelRC thanks i have been busy to get it right .But i have found the real problem.it is in the servo"s they are all been new but bad as hell. 1 time they work right and the next time they dont .so this is the problem and i order new ones. Thnx again now i know i was on the right track.
Weird... did the new ones arrive, did you fix the issue?
@@ArxangelRC yes the servo"s are good .and everything is working fine now.thanks again.waiting for the maiden but will let you know.i have the cg at 58mm hope it wil be fine.cheers
@@ArxangelRC it were the servo"s they are new emax but not good so i change them
do you can make tutorial make VTOL use this FC?
At some point I will make a VTOL, sadly this controller cannot be used for a VTOL! Does not have nearly enough signal outputs to connect everything needed for a VTOL!
@@ArxangelRC do can Mateksys F405-Wing for VTOL?
@@caringcenter5375 I think more than 8 outputs are needed for VTOL, and also F405 Wing does not have enough ESC power outputs, so that would be a mess! Actually thinking about it... 8 outputs will be just barely enough for 4 VTOL motors, 1 tractor or pusher motor for plane flight, 1 for ailerons, 1 for rudder and 1 for elevator... and you will still have to find a way to power the ESCs external to the F405 Wing, which either means that you won't be able to monitor current draw, or if the model draws too much while hovering, it could overwhelm the F405's current sensor, and burn it out!
@@ArxangelRC omnibus pro has 8 pwm
@@maybayson4203 OK
I try to download but it’s only able to safe HTM or All file but no Hex file
You need to right-click on the file and then "Save link as...", then it should download the file.
So i went arduplane like you but I have the same problem even if i download with right click. But if i try a betaflight hex all is good.is there some thing i miss.thanks a lott
Some extra info i have the omnibus f4 pro v2 and i can get it in dfu no problem. It looks like the hex file is not good i just cant load it .I use betaflight 10.4.0 config .in load firmware local i use the arduplane_with_bl.hex it s like 2,56mb so it looks good .But wen i say open .the flash firmware button do not light up.this is were i am stuck. Hope you have a solution. Thanks again René
Update..also for people who are strugling . i have 3 laptops and on just one of them the last one it was working so it has something to do with drivers i think.cheers
its only worked when i used clean-flight to flash it......... other than that everything was the same
Weird... but still I am glad you got it working! :)
Which flies better, inav or ardupilot or are both programs basically the same?
For the time being at least, ArduPilot for me is a lot more reliable than iNav. Flight characteristics are hard to compare... but I would still go with ArduPlane, as iNav does have some issues still in that department.
ArxangelRC Thanks for the reply! I might just switch to ardupilot.
I've tried both, on the exact same plane, (just change software) and found them to fly both very good.... Arduplane seems a bit 'softer' on the autotune, but that can be tuned as you like....
I've only used iNav before, and that has been very reliable to me, including waypoints, RTH, etc.
Personally, I found iNav easier, but I guess that depends on what you're familiar with. Some people say Arduplane is better, but when trying to set up arduplane for the first time, I got stuck in some settings, that where hidden deep inside the total parameter list in Arduplane...... But the same could be said for iNav CLI settings if you're new to iNav.
But it's good to have both options I guess.... Try them both, and see what you like best....
Guess I will play some more with Arduplane, and keep one plane on Arduplane, and another one on iNav...
Valid points Wilco... I do feel lost in the Betaflight/iNav CLI for sure... but I have been dealing with the ArduPilot code for years, so it is much more familiar! Both take some getting used to if its your first time, but from what I've seen with iNav... would prefer to stick to ArduPlane for the time being... BUT... competition does drive things forward, so I hope iNav up their game!
ArxangelRC definitely Arduplane is a lot better imo. Way easier to setup and way more reliable.
is this omnibus v2 or v3? what the difference?
It is hard to remember now! I think its v2! The difference was that the V3 had some issues with port mapping, and it was a pain to get it working properly after flashing with Ardu!
@@ArxangelRC is sd card loging works?
@@ZuNunchaku It should!
how to flashback to inav?
Can't tell you at this time, but I will look into it! :)
I get a "failed to open serial port" error all the time. Tried Inav same thing... I am using an F405 wing FC.
Is it possible you got a defective board?
ArxangelRC I flashed inav 2.0 and I managed to do it. Thanks!
So you stayed with iNav, or after iNav you managed to flash ardupilot?
I flashed 2.0 and then I could get I to dfu mode and flash arduplane. I am soldering at the moment...😉
That is useful information! I am about to flash one Omni F4 Pro for the Crosswind as I am writing this, if I run into trouble will try this approach! :)
Wheres the radio setup?
Not much of a setup in the radio, other than to arrange the channels!
hello is that omnibus f4 v2 clone or originaly ?
It is not original, it is a clone, but has been perfect so far for me.
@@ArxangelRC nice thanks for info
You are welcome! :)
Just got the board and IMMEDIATELLY pulled of the USB connector. Soldered it back on. all OK. Could not flash with Betaflight, downloaded Zadig exe, Fixed that. But Mission planner did not see any COM. So, downloaded ImpulseRC fixer (impulserc.blob.core.windows.net/utilities/ImpulseRC_Driver_Fixer.exe), ran that, said it could not fix. But it did, I coud see COM18. so now I have an F4 with ArduPlane :) Cant wait for weekend! :)
Damn... I do hate these blasted issues with drives and software... makes this so much more difficult for people who are not in the know! Glad you sorted it out!
Thanks, is this still on beta?
I think the Omni F4 Pro is still in beta! :) But it is getting better! Running the latest version on the Phoenix 2400 and it is working quite well!
@@ArxangelRC nice, I am getting a F7 stack and will try it
Hope there is a firmware file for whatever stack you are getting!
@@ArxangelRC kakute F7 and yes there are supported.
Nice, well you should be OK then! :)
Very insightful video, however there is one MAJOR false information, that is the compass is not needed.
Yes it's information can be partially replaced with a combination of data from the GPS and/or airspeed sensor, but it is VERY important in windy conditions, soaring and landing as the plane may be flying slightly sideways not knowing that it's heading is actually different.
It's not even that hard to calibrate, although I would recommend getting an external compass (most GPS modules come with an integrated one so use that) to get away from all the magnetic interference from the power lines in your aircraft.
That said it is a good starting point, try it without the compass and then add it in later, but DO THAT!
Well... true... in some way... but then in most cases you could do without... and in the past at least... it has caused too much grief to remember... hence why I don't use it! Also... when landing you usually see the ground pretty close and are hardly looking at the OSD direction even if landing by FPV. :) BUT... everybody is free to decide for themselves! I am sharing my point of view on this! :)
@@ArxangelRC About the landing I meant automatic landing, manual doesn't really need the compass.
But thank you for acknowledging this, I just wanted to point that out that if anyone ever had problems with the plane flying weirdly that this may be the problem.
Good work!
Yeah... for an auto one, you might need the compass... I've never done one... so don't really need it!
Could not get iNav or Betaflight to flash the board - would not go into dfu mode. Found a fix here: oscarliang.com/fc-driver-issues-flash-firmware/#comment-19267 . The ImpulseRC Driver Fixer Tool works!
Yeah, that is the one thing I forgot to mention in the video, if you have issues to use this Fixer Tool for it! Has worked once or twice for me too! :)
Arxangel. One proposal. Please change your talking style and dont talk like a robotor. Great content but strange talk. Use pauses when talking.
Thanks for the suggestions mate! I just edit out the breaths because they are crazy annoying... at least to me, and I do try to talk quickly to get as much info into as little a time as possible! :)
That's not very kind @Karim :'(
I like his accent!
Talking too fast, slow down a bit.
Will try to... but only a bit! ;)
Great info, thanks.. But ffs, could you pause between sentences and maybe speak a little slower. You're driving me crazy!
I am trying... but it sounds sooooo boring when I try to speak slower!
@@ArxangelRC Oh I don't agree. I'm worried you'll forget to breathe 😁
Hahahaha, won't forget... I just edit out the breathing from the recording because it sounds horrible!
@@ArxangelRC I do appreciate your videos. Keep it up, cheers 😎👍
@@husky041 Thank you!