+Mike Carlin I wonder if they would have stressed the pilots with even more questions if they had a VIP. I've "seen" (more exactly: heard) worse ATC but these ATC sector has absolutely room for improvements.
Some nations like the USA have high ranking government personnel who remain on standby for emergencies such as the President and Vice President. They can not jack a commercial flight simply because their security team is say getting word of 9/11 or an assault on a military base. Singapore must consider their needs to be different hence a much cheaper commercial flight rather than an expensive all situations prepared plane simply to go out on holiday. There even was one event where a local thief in Hawaii crashed into the outer security of Obama's cordon escaping local police.
Wow... This ATC asked way too many questions. To ask twice "Airport want to know if you are confident to make the landing" what sort of question is that??
Was so shocked at the ATC contribution that I had to read a bunch of Comments below (to ensure it was not just me) ...... confidence seriously eroded !
Unfortunately I'm not particularly impressed by the ATC. They should keep the communications at minimum to don't stress the crew. Especially when they've asked if their intention was to land. I wonder which is the other option apart from crash in a field... Lack of communications between ATC as even at the end they were keep asking the crew the kind of problem they had on board. Anyway all came to a good end and this is the most important part.
+Jorge Orge Yes, you can hear the controlled irritation in the commander's voice, you can tell that he's swearing at them as soon as his transmission is finished
The ATC personnel were extremely intrusive with their inquiries. They need to write things down and pass that info on to other control facilities in order to allow flight crew to complete checklists and fly the airplane. ATC is not flying the airplane and can in no way assist the flight crew with corrective actions to remedy the emergency. Their job is to accommodate the flight crew with direction and altitude, clearing the airspace of other traffic, as the flight crew makes flight decisions that will assure the safety of the flight.
have lived in Singapore for 11 years and have flown in and out hundreds of times....After hearing that ATC performance every flight from this day on will have an extra edge to it......sadly I am not surprised though it is just another example of everyday life here except for the fact these people have our lives in their hands !!
+S Ma Yeah, that was my breaking point, too. The rest isn't the best ATC lingo in the world, granted, but not responding to an emergency aircraft asking about ARFF measures is one of the biggest NO-NO's there is.
+QemeH And whats the bet when the aircraft did land (safely thankfully) that the equipment wasn't there anyway and it was just pure luck that they didn't need it. Imagine how many people could have died if it was needed and wasn't there.
In fairness it would have been preferable for the pilot to skip the preamble and simply say "Confirm fire services standing by". Everything else was superfluous and likely to increase the possibility of confusion.
+TheMILVET It was (to me) blatently clear, that he did not know, what a "cowling" was, hence him trying to grasp for any similar sounding word. He heard "housing" first, but was corrected by the pilot, which didn't help much either, because that was close enough for a non.native, I think.
Asked for VIPs, none on board. Engineers take their time. Pilot asks for all emergency vehicles to standby, tower says the engineers will be checking the gear... I wonder if there were VIPs on board maybe there would be emergency vehicles standing by. It didn't seem like any of the controllers were passing information to each other.
Good grief - C O W L I N G - How many times did the pilot have to spell it and say it. Top markes for his patience with the ATC though. The ATC's questions could be considerably more condensed. Never going to Singapore. The ATC's repetitive nonsense was cringe worthy. How on earth can the pilot say he can make a confident landing when the left main gear is showing a warning! Dumb questions. You could hear the pilot's weary responses start at 17:00. I rarely yell at my computer screen but I did this time.
Left Hand Engine Bowling... Yes Stupid ATC.... It's Because plane engines after takeoff leave the plane and go tenpin bowling.. How did he not know this
Dear god! This atc is a cluster****! They need new controllers who are trained properly! Unnecessary questions over and over again! Surprised pilots didn’t lose their tempers over this!
+Aristocrat Also, asking an emergency aircraft, why it asks for a 10 minute delay after they just stated, they can't jettison and need to make an overweight... Did they never fly before?
I agree. Changi would've been they're closest so to ask which airport was a bit stupid. I was also gob smacked to hear them to hear ATC ask if they can reposition behind BAW??? What the hell
Wow... what an absolute communication cluster... what the hell is at doing inquiring about hydraulics and vip's?? That was a half out of straight conversation, most of it completely unnecessary!
Worst management system I’ve ever heard. There should’ve been a single frequency given for the emergency and a single controller handling them. This was nothing but chaos.
The cowling DOES NOT “hold[s] the whole freaking engine together”. The cowling is NOT a structural part of the engine. Losing the cowling will reduce efficiency of the engine, but WILL NOT cause it to fail, or fall apart. Notice the pilots called the loss of cowling as a TECHNICAL ISSUE. THE MAYDAY WAS CALLED DUE TO LANDING GEAR PROBLEM (gear indicator showing GEAR UNSAFE)
Coming from tons of ATC videos from US Towers.. I don't feel confident with uhh.. confirm.. housing.. bowling.. how to spell? no, c-o-w-l-i-n-g.. in short, the Singlish approach by our SG ATC.. but Changi Airport is one the best airports in the world.. so, magic I guess? Lol.
Between 15:50-16:55 they discuss (to check the landing gear) to do an "overshoot" and also use the term "fly past" (at least the first sounds like something else). The "engineers in the rover" seem a bit taken by surprice, and how can it tell if a gear is in locked position? What is the correct phraseology and is the procedure in use?
+U.N. Owen I think (but I might be wrong) that there are small pins on the wing, indicating if the gear is locked. They performed a fly-by (don't now why they call it fly-past) and the enginners were probably confused, because really everyone can look if a gear is down - in almost every country the tower has a binocular and can look & report, but this airport had to call specific people from the airline for that. Performing a fly-by is common procedure if the crew is unsure about the gear status.
"The airport emergency services would like to know if you are confident to make the landing" Well you know what? Thanks for asking let me sleep on it and I'll let you know tomorrow, maybe my confidence will be better by then.
There is no need to verify any VIPs onboard, just as simple as verifying the total POB. The main 2 infos are the FOB and POB. What the heck was that!!!!
cowling falls off, then gear unsafe warning. no fuel dump, loiter for an hour to burn off fuel. The pilot must be named lucky. at least nothing is on fire.
Not very impressed with the quality of that ATC officer. He was probably doing his best, but that whole exchange didn't help CRM and really reflects badly on his training. His Singlish accent was just that bit too thick and it explains why he was unfamiliar with the word "cowling", which is not an uncommon term in aviation. Most of all - how could this have come from an airport of the calibre of Changi?
Note to self, take boat to Singapore not a flight due to ATC not being able to organise a piss up in a brewery. Why ask a flight who's declared a mayday "have you any VIPs?" ( what so they can remove the VIPs burning corpse and luggage first before the ordinary people ). "Are you confident to land?" ( no we are not, we are just going to fly around until we run out of gas ). "Could you please spell cowling?" ( yes its F-U-C-T-A-R-D ).
_LLJY Actually a passenger or PAX as airlines call passengers with special needs is noted as PAXA followed by further letters denoting any type of assistance needed or relevant information. A pregnant women has no acronym unless she is heavily pregnant and flying for medical reasons, but would be called a PAXA in that case. But as you may know airlines wont in most cases dont allow heavily pregnant woman to fly. The VIP acronym used in airlines is used solely for VIPs and commercially sensitive PAX.
+supertekkel1 Initially they thought it was only a problem with a missing engine cowling. After they tried putting their gear down they realised they had a problem with that too and there's a good chance they'd be scraping their way down the runway.
+supertekkel1 It was because of their "alternate" procedure. Initially they were unaware of their gear problem. After they noticed that - on the approach, when they tried to put it down - they runned through multiple checklists, one of them probably involving the "alternative gear drop - gravity extension". If that is really neccessary to put the gear down, it means that you have a hydraulic issue at the gear system - making normal braking & nosewheel steering unavailable. So they expected that those systems are unavailable, making taxi unable (or at least very difficult, but I've seen a Delta taxiing without nosewheel steering). After landing they checked their systems and noticed that the systems were still operational, so they were able to taxi. But you don't know for sure if you can't even tell if your gear is down or not. That's why they said they were unable for taxi.
Pilot already said the gear warning was on and indicated that one of the gear might not be down for landing. Good chance it's a crash landing.. yet the ATC still asked if they can vacate the runway by themselves. Stupid on another level...
I think using English is likely the problem between the ATC and pilots. It's driving me bonkers. ATC can't quite grasp what the pilots have been telling them. Any VIP onboard? Who the hell cares?
A few of the ATC-personell is just not skilled enough in english language, they keep asking again and again. I would expect more than some kind of poor pidgin english from people doing a job like that.
ATC: "Any VIP on board?" WTF??? Does that make it higher priority is some rich fucker is sitting in first class? 3rd world bullshit... this would never happen in a civilized country.
+Verbatim Mitabrev my guess is that he was asking "whether special assistance like helping to evacuate the disabled, should be ready for any unlikely event"
Mich Rose yeah...probably in a third world country, but singapore is a first world country, with one of the most expensive cost of living and a very high gdp growth, singapore is one of the 4 asian tigers, famed for its strong economy and minimal corruption.
a pilot having mechanical issues or declaring an emergency would much prefer JFK. no need to spell out words, answer pointless questions, repeat yourself over and over.these self centred controllers need retraining
Damn, if u weren't worried at the start, you would be soon after! ✨By 12min40sec you'd be bashin ur head head on the wall 😦Eep! Thankyou for uploading and subbing ^_^
I'm not really sure, but it seeems like the departure controller is French with an asian accent... And his english is like omg xD Still, the communication seems aweful between controllers and even with the pilot for all of them...
Titou1384 people in Singapore speak like this, we love to shorten our words which explains the "bad English" but people are actually really good at English here.
Went through their interview process, its no wonder this happens, interview process is AI and they didnt give a chance to potential passionate trainee. Oh wells...
The dumbest and silly question from atc? Repeat and repeat question!! Calling Mayday and they keep asking stupid question...Nature of cowling become BOWLING....Well educated ATC...
Can you stop complaining about the ATC you can clearly hear that the pilot has no problem with them and the ATC even asks if he is confident to make the landing
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Those WSSS atco sure sounds good.,..too good....
Saying "understood" instead of reading back, and then asking the same question in 10 seconds again, so he clearly did not understand. OMG.
"Are there any VIPs?"
"Well the pilot flying the aircraft is fairly important"
Singapore Government Officials tend to travel on commercial airlines. That's why he ask if any VIP onboard
+Mike Carlin I wonder if they would have stressed the pilots with even more questions if they had a VIP. I've "seen" (more exactly: heard) worse ATC but these ATC sector has absolutely room for improvements.
But why would a VIP use a budget airline??
World Of Tanks Replay VIP means special needs such as children, elderly etc
Some nations like the USA have high ranking government personnel who remain on standby for emergencies such as the President and Vice President. They can not jack a commercial flight simply because their security team is say getting word of 9/11 or an assault on a military base. Singapore must consider their needs to be different hence a much cheaper commercial flight rather than an expensive all situations prepared plane simply to go out on holiday. There even was one event where a local thief in Hawaii crashed into the outer security of Obama's cordon escaping local police.
Wow... This ATC asked way too many questions. To ask twice "Airport want to know if you are confident to make the landing" what sort of question is that??
owenabz I think they meant that if they are confident to land with the landing gear deploy lights aren't on
As Ted Stryker said, "You have to come in pretty low to land these things."
Welcome to singapore
Was so shocked at the ATC contribution that I had to read a bunch of Comments below (to ensure it was not just me) ...... confidence seriously eroded !
WildlifeObsessed yea I aint flying to Singapore any time soon I tell ya I'll walk it safer than flying after listening to that Farce
(At 12:00)
The pilot said "We've tried the alternative procedure"
Which mean that they have gone through gravity gear extension procedure.
Unfortunately I'm not particularly impressed by the ATC. They should keep the communications at minimum to don't stress the crew.
Especially when they've asked if their intention was to land. I wonder which is the other option apart from crash in a field...
Lack of communications between ATC as even at the end they were keep asking the crew the kind of problem they had on board.
Anyway all came to a good end and this is the most important part.
bad day, very good job on the pilots side!
would love to hear the Cockpit voice recordings and the captain insulting ATC :)
+Jorge Orge Yes, you can hear the controlled irritation in the commander's voice, you can tell that he's swearing at them as soon as his transmission is finished
The Pilot English accent sounded very clear and very good.
The ATC personnel were extremely intrusive with their inquiries. They need to write things down and pass that info on to other control facilities in order to allow flight crew to complete checklists and fly the airplane. ATC is not flying the airplane and can in no way assist the flight crew with corrective actions to remedy the emergency. Their job is to accommodate the flight crew with direction and altitude, clearing the airspace of other traffic, as the flight crew makes flight decisions that will assure the safety of the flight.
have lived in Singapore for 11 years and have flown in and out hundreds of times....After hearing that ATC performance every flight from this day on will have an extra edge to it......sadly I am not surprised though it is just another example of everyday life here except for the fact these people have our lives in their hands !!
Hi actually I am the passenger who alerted the crew after an foreign object hit the engine cowling and my seat no was 11A
+Siva Kumar You got quite an interesting ride that day sir. Glad to hear that everything turned out well for you all.
Yes of course added with a landing gear issues too
And I am the pilot who landed the aircraft (note sarcasm)
I'm the guy who repaired the latches and installed a new engine cowling.
Wow... And wow. Lucky all of you.
- Our left main gear is not down.
- Roger. And confirm you will be able to taxi under your own power?
Wow. Happy to fly with those pilots; much less so about ATC.
ATC did not respond to the Captain asking TWICE if equipment (ambulance, fire engines) would be standing by. Ridiculous. Total incompetence by ATC.
+S Ma Yeah, that was my breaking point, too. The rest isn't the best ATC lingo in the world, granted, but not responding to an emergency aircraft asking about ARFF measures is one of the biggest NO-NO's there is.
+QemeH And whats the bet when the aircraft did land (safely thankfully) that the equipment wasn't there anyway and it was just pure luck that they didn't need it. Imagine how many people could have died if it was needed and wasn't there.
S Ma That's ridiculous for me, too. Seems like there are new hands ATC for an emergency aircraft, unbelievable.
In fairness it would have been preferable for the pilot to skip the preamble and simply say "Confirm fire services standing by". Everything else was superfluous and likely to increase the possibility of confusion.
You lost your engine bowling? What the hell is a left hand "bowling"?
+TheMILVET It was (to me) blatently clear, that he did not know, what a "cowling" was, hence him trying to grasp for any similar sounding word. He heard "housing" first, but was corrected by the pilot, which didn't help much either, because that was close enough for a non.native, I think.
Thanks for the recording! It's assuring to know what actually goes on between the cockpit and ATC.
+FlyCruise Singapore This recording shouldn't be reassuring. ATC is absolutely terrible here.
Ben Kolbeck The pilots were calm but I got to admit ATC sounded rather nervous.
Asked for VIPs, none on board. Engineers take their time. Pilot asks for all emergency vehicles to standby, tower says the engineers will be checking the gear... I wonder if there were VIPs on board maybe there would be emergency vehicles standing by. It didn't seem like any of the controllers were passing information to each other.
"It's assuring to know what actually goes on between the cockpit and ATC." No, it isn't.
Thanks a lot for this Shikhargpt. I almost choked on my apple when ATC said bowling lol
Aaand eeeerr TGW2638, confirm you are able to switch on the "no smoking" lights?
Very awful communications from ATC needing many many confirmations. Very unprofessional.
They came in on one wing and one prayer.
Good grief - C O W L I N G - How many times did the pilot have to spell it and say it. Top markes for his patience with the ATC though. The ATC's questions could be considerably more condensed. Never going to Singapore. The ATC's repetitive nonsense was cringe worthy. How on earth can the pilot say he can make a confident landing when the left main gear is showing a warning! Dumb questions. You could hear the pilot's weary responses start at 17:00. I rarely yell at my computer screen but I did this time.
OMG Yes, you're absolutely right. I get how you feel.
Holy cow, ATC personnel communicate like English is their 4th language
Cowling
Housing?
C-O-w-L-I-N-G
Bowling?
Worst ATC ever.
Left Hand Engine Bowling...
Yes Stupid ATC....
It's Because plane engines after takeoff leave the plane and go tenpin bowling..
How did he not know this
C'mon A319!! STRIIIKEEEEE
Ben Jay lol
Why did ATC have to know what a cowling is? Stop being pathetic and finish your home work kids.
I though air traffic controllers had a bit more than basic understanding of how aircraft work.
Dear god! This atc is a cluster****! They need new controllers who are trained properly! Unnecessary questions over and over again! Surprised pilots didn’t lose their tempers over this!
Jesus Christ. What kind of ATC are those? Double confirm? VIP? Spelling? And these are the peope in charge. Welcome to SIngapore
+Aristocrat Also, asking an emergency aircraft, why it asks for a 10 minute delay after they just stated, they can't jettison and need to make an overweight... Did they never fly before?
+QemeH Singaporeans. What do you expect.
I agree. Changi would've been they're closest so to ask which airport was a bit stupid. I was also gob smacked to hear them to hear ATC ask if they can reposition behind BAW??? What the hell
Aristocrat Singaporeans smarter than you of course.
@Waking Up From A Nightmare Try harder. lol.
Jeez Singaporean ATC is scarily bad. Surely they should know what an engine COWLING is? And a complete lack of communication between the ATC sectors.
Richard Taylor I have seen much better in Singapore haha, he's probably new.
i get the feeling that after the second request for spelling he went and google it... how is that possible?
Wow... what an absolute communication cluster... what the hell is at doing inquiring about hydraulics and vip's?? That was a half out of straight conversation, most of it completely unnecessary!
Crazy ATC
Worst management system I’ve ever heard. There should’ve been a single frequency given for the emergency and a single controller handling them. This was nothing but chaos.
Pilot: " Cowling ? Well, it's a big round thing which holds the whole freaking engine together. But that's not important right now . "
Doctor: When can we land?
Captain: I can't tell you.
Doctor: You can tell me, I am a Doctor.
@@rooftopvoter3015 - " Well, not for another two hours. '
The cowling DOES NOT “hold[s] the whole freaking engine together”.
The cowling is NOT a structural part of the engine.
Losing the cowling will reduce efficiency of the engine, but WILL NOT cause it to fail, or fall apart.
Notice the pilots called the loss of cowling as a TECHNICAL ISSUE.
THE MAYDAY WAS CALLED DUE TO LANDING GEAR PROBLEM (gear indicator showing GEAR UNSAFE)
@@ernestgalvan9037 - I understand, and I agree.
But that's not important right now.
Coming from tons of ATC videos from US Towers.. I don't feel confident with uhh.. confirm.. housing.. bowling.. how to spell? no, c-o-w-l-i-n-g.. in short, the Singlish approach by our SG ATC.. but Changi Airport is one the best airports in the world.. so, magic I guess? Lol.
Between 15:50-16:55 they discuss (to check the landing gear) to do an "overshoot" and also use the term "fly past" (at least the first sounds like something else). The "engineers in the rover" seem a bit taken by surprice, and how can it tell if a gear is in locked position? What is the correct phraseology and is the procedure in use?
+U.N. Owen I think (but I might be wrong) that there are small pins on the wing, indicating if the gear is locked. They performed a fly-by (don't now why they call it fly-past) and the enginners were probably confused, because really everyone can look if a gear is down - in almost every country the tower has a binocular and can look & report, but this airport had to call specific people from the airline for that. Performing a fly-by is common procedure if the crew is unsure about the gear status.
"enginers wants to know if you're confident to land"
if not enginers wants to jump on that plane or what ?
Soo if the were not confident were they like going to start digging people's grave or something
Phil SpliffeD I would have said FUCK NO we aren't confident but eventually we have to try it.
"The airport emergency services would like to know if you are confident to make the landing"
Well you know what? Thanks for asking let me sleep on it and I'll let you know tomorrow, maybe my confidence will be better by then.
There is no need to verify any VIPs onboard, just as simple as verifying the total POB.
The main 2 infos are the FOB and POB.
What the heck was that!!!!
What do VIP's have to do with anything? Aren't they people?
VIP means - old people, children, babies.
like are we low-class citizens?
cowling falls off, then gear unsafe warning. no fuel dump, loiter for an hour to burn off fuel.
The pilot must be named lucky.
at least nothing is on fire.
What do you mean? You cannot dump fuel on an A320, burning the fuel is the normal procedure.
You'd think ATC would know what a cowling is...
Hearing controllers that bad ... might of been better to fly to another nearby airport than stay in a holding pattern for an hour.
Not very impressed with the quality of that ATC officer. He was probably doing his best, but that whole exchange didn't help CRM and really reflects badly on his training. His Singlish accent was just that bit too thick and it explains why he was unfamiliar with the word "cowling", which is not an uncommon term in aviation. Most of all - how could this have come from an airport of the calibre of Changi?
How did you acquire this video ?
"Any VIP aboard?" Ummm... ALL souls on board are very important!
Note to self, take boat to Singapore not a flight due to ATC not being able to organise a piss up in a brewery. Why ask a flight who's declared a mayday "have you any VIPs?" ( what so they can remove the VIPs burning corpse and luggage first before the ordinary people ). "Are you confident to land?" ( no we are not, we are just going to fly around until we run out of gas ). "Could you please spell cowling?" ( yes its F-U-C-T-A-R-D ).
Irrational Geographic VIP = special needs individuals, like pregnant women
_LLJY Actually a passenger or PAX as airlines call passengers with special needs is noted as PAXA followed by further letters denoting any type of assistance needed or relevant information. A pregnant women has no acronym unless she is heavily pregnant and flying for medical reasons, but would be called a PAXA in that case. But as you may know airlines wont in most cases dont allow heavily pregnant woman to fly. The VIP acronym used in airlines is used solely for VIPs and commercially sensitive PAX.
Irrational Geographic apart from that the departure atc was just bad. Changi tower did a better job
Go kats? You've been cleared for a bowling strike in lane 1. Abandon ship!
You can know if the ATC is not season enough.... After comparing ATC from other part of the world.
Al Cowling fell off the plane right into a Ford Bronco. OJ was in the back seat.
For scores of glaringly obvious reasons, remind me to never have to declare mayday at Singapore. Lack of coordination tops the fools list.
Why did they expect the necessity to be towed of the runway? Initially they confirmed they could taxi on their own power.
+supertekkel1 Initially they thought it was only a problem with a missing engine cowling. After they tried putting their gear down they realised they had a problem with that too and there's a good chance they'd be scraping their way down the runway.
+supertekkel1 It was because of their "alternate" procedure. Initially they were unaware of their gear problem. After they noticed that - on the approach, when they tried to put it down - they runned through multiple checklists, one of them probably involving the "alternative gear drop - gravity extension". If that is really neccessary to put the gear down, it means that you have a hydraulic issue at the gear system - making normal braking & nosewheel steering unavailable. So they expected that those systems are unavailable, making taxi unable (or at least very difficult, but I've seen a Delta taxiing without nosewheel steering). After landing they checked their systems and noticed that the systems were still operational, so they were able to taxi. But you don't know for sure if you can't even tell if your gear is down or not. That's why they said they were unable for taxi.
WTF are those engineers playing at?
Pilot already said the gear warning was on and indicated that one of the gear might not be down for landing. Good chance it's a crash landing.. yet the ATC still asked if they can vacate the runway by themselves. Stupid on another level...
Geeze ....so typical....when 1 personnel pass to the next due to change shift....the pilot need to repeat the story again...haiz....🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Easily the worst ATC ever.
ATC need to be fired, totally incompetent.
I think using English is likely the problem between the ATC and pilots. It's driving me bonkers. ATC can't quite grasp what the pilots have been telling them. Any VIP onboard? Who the hell cares?
HOUSING?? BOWLING??? COWLING... ohh.. how to spell?? and repeat that again?
The ATCs were a joke. This is unsafe. These guys are not competent...
They speak English but the atc don't fully understand what they are saying.
A few of the ATC-personell is just not skilled enough in english language, they keep asking again and again. I would expect more than some kind of poor pidgin english from people doing a job like that.
ATC: "Any VIP on board?"
WTF??? Does that make it higher priority is some rich fucker is sitting in first class? 3rd world bullshit... this would never happen in a civilized country.
VIP = Pregnant women, disabled individuals, etc. Not rich people.
+Verbatim Mitabrev my guess is that he was asking "whether special assistance like helping to evacuate the disabled, should be ready for any unlikely event"
its part of the controller's emergency procedure checklists, so that they can inform the relevant authorities if necessary.
Mich Rose yeah...probably in a third world country, but singapore is a first world country, with one of the most expensive cost of living and a very high gdp growth, singapore is one of the 4 asian tigers, famed for its strong economy and minimal corruption.
These ATC officers are the worst!
a pilot having mechanical issues or declaring an emergency would much prefer JFK. no need to spell out words, answer pointless questions, repeat yourself over and over.these self centred controllers need retraining
Wtf I expected better English from the ATC of Singapore Housing? Bowling? Cowling? .......
Damn, if u weren't worried at the start, you would be soon after! ✨By 12min40sec you'd be bashin ur head head on the wall 😦Eep! Thankyou for uploading and subbing ^_^
Any VIP? What a heck....
I'm not really sure, but it seeems like the departure controller is French with an asian accent... And his english is like omg xD
Still, the communication seems aweful between controllers and even with the pilot for all of them...
Lol he's not French
It is a very heavy accent..
not at all. Controllers are pure Singaporeans and everyone speaks as such here.
Titou1384 people in Singapore speak like this, we love to shorten our words which explains the "bad English" but people are actually really good at English here.
Went through their interview process, its no wonder this happens, interview process is AI and they didnt give a chance to potential passionate trainee. Oh wells...
WORST - ATC - EVER
singapore ATC is pretty boring ... only if got occasional situation like above ... it's almost like the ATC are militaries ...
BOWLING
This is how modern country faces Mayday recently...Haha!!!
What terrible ATC
I am the passenger that always scream back request denied when they say brace, brace, brace.
The dumbest and silly question from atc? Repeat and repeat question!! Calling Mayday and they keep asking stupid question...Nature of cowling become BOWLING....Well educated ATC...
bahahahahahhahaha left hand bowling
Just look outside your window and see if they have all the gears... Doesn't need an engineer to do that
cock atc la... Aircraft housing... bowling
Can you stop complaining about the ATC you can clearly hear that the pilot has no problem with them and the ATC even asks if he is confident to make the landing
They are not supposed to ask that. And the pilot won't show his dissatisfaction on the air during an emergency...
Look at all these stupid comments. These people never even worked at an ATC before but they still comment as if they know a lot.
Some of the worst ATC in the world.