Radio clarity might be due to clear line of sight between plane and the volunteer ground receiver. The receivers often have poor or partial coverage (if any) of airport transmitters. Ground to ground is often not received at all for unofficial logging
Wow... I really love the attitude from the Irish crew. Situation firmly in hand, they tell ATC clearly what they need, they say when they are unable or uncomfortable, they think about others ('might have spilled') and ahead for themselves ('in case of go-around'), they keep calm and even polite (!) during all of it. It's hard to find a better example of true airmanship than this bit of communication.
Peter Timowreef Now I'm curious... did you think I was a proud irishman, elevating the 'Irishness' of the crew because they did well? Or did you think, I was adding the qualifier 'irish' because I was somehow thinking this top-notch airmanship was unusual for irishmen?!? 'Cause... neither is true :)
I've worked in the Madrid airport with Irish persons and they are calm and the politest people of the world. Never had a problem. In this case I think they should have declared officially emergency.
In 80 years, Aer Lingus has had only two fatal crashs, both involving propeller driven planes, a DC3 and a Vickers Viscount, they have one of the best safety records of any airline, this video shows how competent their flight crews are.
You can really see why, they are perfectly trained in minimizing risks. These are not only the obvious things, like calling rescue even if you expect everything to go normal or the preparation of a easier go-around, these are also the small things like staying at 220 instead of accelerating. Sure no one is expecting anything to happen, but why should you accelerated to 250 when your plane is in good condition at 220.
Totally unnecessary though if Americans caught up with the rest of the world and used the metric system. Nobody but Americans uses pounds anymore. We all use kilograms...
@@bobmarshall3700 USA's measures ARE absurd. As a US citizen I can attest to that, but does the rest of the world use a base-10 system for time keeping? 60 seconds in a minute. 60 minutes in an hour. a base-10 system for ALL measures would be best for all of us __BUT__ (here in the usa) we have so much infrastructure based on our current measures it would be an insane amount of effort to get EVERYTHING converted.. just as it would take an insane amount of effort for the rest of the world to switch to a base-10 time-keeping system.
@@Jude74 There was never a threat to the safety of the plane prior to landing. The only concern was risk of the gear catching fire upon braking. By that point, firetrucks would be standing by and immediately extinguish it. There was no risk of loss of life :)
That AAL pilot that did the kg-lbs conversion is one true airman ! Nice gesture of him to take that task of the controllers shoulder (everybody working in aviation knows how annoying metric - > US conversion and vice versa is). All in all very professional dialogue, espececially by the EIN pilot giving the controllers as much as information as possible and kind of have the controller with them in the cockpit. Great airmanship all in all !
+marcel1416 I loved editing this one! I loved the EIN pilots as well for the reason you mentioned. It is not common to give the ATC all that info. Gear doors position, brake config, landing speed...
VASAviation - Yeah I know, really uncommon, but very very professional and his voice was so clear and distinct, no sign of nervousness in his voice. Interesting, that it was not declared as an emergency, Of course the 757 has some kind of reserve system or independant hydraulic systems for the important controls but still, with that many things inop (he also told the controller) to not declare an emergency, wow. The pilot seemed to be pretty confident.
Airbus and Boeing have 3 fully independent hydraulic systems. So partial loss of fluid in one system isn't that serious. It's certainly not life threatening (a mayday is used to imply imminent or actual threat to life)
+Gavin Singh. I disagree. It is an emergency when an aircraft is on fire, has severe loss of control, engine failure, or is running out of fuel.. None of this applied, so planning a safe landing, giving himself time to fully think things through and requesting fire trucks mobilized was the best solution. He also informed ATC that the runway would need to be checked for hydraulic fluid spill following his landing. As well as putting other aircraft at risk by jumping the landing sequence at a busy airport. Rushing to get the plane on the ground would not have been the safest option. You need to remember that once he dropped the landing gear, he had no means of retracting it. This made correct planning even more vital. The term "emergency" is easily misunderstood. Every day at Heathrow, a plane comes in with minor technical faults. Declaring every one as an emergency would cause chaos and put lives at far greater risk.
@@gavinsingh4450 They had full flight controls and the engines weren't in danger. Their landing gear has failsafes so that it extends in the event of loss of hydraulics. They informed tower that they weren't an emergency but that emergency crews should be standing by because of the risk of fire on landing. They didn't need priority landing clearance so there was no need to declare emergency. There was no risk while they were airborne other than they can't complete their intended flight with landing gear extended.
Yes, I think the AAL crew observed slight upset in ATC guy voice ( I did!) when he was asked to convert these kilos to pounds and that's what made them help; for them that particular conversion is propably a walk in the park. Nevertheless, ATC guy should independently check their math,but something tells me he didn't 😁 estimation was right anyway. But as others said, this video is PACKED with professionalism.
every ATC should be able ,in fraction of seconds, able to convert Kg to pounds, and metes to feets. Just to mention few .... Feet/pound/gallons are useless and obsolete measurement units. I say this as engineer and American too ..... No need to use those old systems anymore. Is not a matter of proud or lack of nationalism ... it is just more practical. Nasa, space X, manufacturers uses tipically MKS system (meters/kilogram/second) as is very accurate and simple to convert in other units if necessary. It is just very practical. One example ?? 57400 liters of water are 57400 kilograms of water and are 57.4 tons. Also are 57,4 cubic meters of water. Try to do that with gallons to pounds to tons and then to cubic feet. .
What a impressive handling by the pilots. Really almost inhuman accuracy and calmness. To even go as far as to remind about gear doors and hydraulic spills left behind. insane.
This^^ EXACTLY my sentiments. Even in the end when he let's the ground trucks know that the fire upon landing was likely caused by the hydraulic fluid being ignited by the hot braking upon landing... the pilots were on top of the situation the WHOLE time. My hat's off. Damn impressive.
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This is the most Irish thing I've heard in a while. Plane: Half our plane is broken, do you mind if we come back? ATC: Are you declaring an emergency? Shamrock: Oh, let's not go that far. It's more like a very fast landing. [later] ATC: Did you know your plane was on fire? Shamrock: Oh, is it? Would you terribly mind extinguishing it when you get a chance? Ta!
XD Best one was when the ground crew told him the fire had been put out, and the FO's concern seems to be to insist that it was just the breaking fluid, and nothing worse, and that he's terribly sorry about the whole thing. And it's a little bit embarrassing, really, and they're sorry they had to be towed off the runway and causing all this inconvenience.
Aer Lingus are one of the safest, most efficient, professional and caring airlines in Europe. Their safety record is second to none and their crews are calm, reassuring and highly trained as you hear in this clip.
Aw, it's not just you Celts :P Pilots and controllers in general seem unusually able to retain a level of calm and professionalism in their communications during emergencies. This example certainly shows that very clearly, but there are many others from all parts of the world. I think most exceptions to that general rule wind up here on YT, so they're not hard to find. I've experienced this personally, on both sides of the radio. (The following wall of words are my personal experiences, so skip if you prefer.) I worked operations for a regional carrier in the 1990s, and over the years we had 2-3 crews coming in to land without all gear indicating down and locked (though tower fly-by observation indicated normal gear down), and one with a suspicious bag on board (during the air war phase of Desert Storm), and it's strange to me how they just sounded like their ordinary selves when they informed me by radio of the situation. I was the one who was all nervous. It's hard to know how to reply to them in that kind of situation. One reply I gave was "Sundance 612 copy that. Er, good luck." I learned that was NOT the kind of reply I should have given :( "Good luck" is not what they want to hear. Pilots in emergencies feel the fear, but they don't ever talk about it until they are safe on the ground and in the pilot lounge. Their attitude in the air is that they WILL work the problem until everyone is safe, no luck required. The fear is there, but they are too busy with their priorities of saving the situation to deal with the fear. It really works that way. Only two years later did I find myself in an emergency as a private pilot (pretty low time - ~85 hours or so) when a wasp had blocked the pitot tube in my C172, rendering my airspeed indicator inoperative, just a few hundred feet after takeoff. The procedure is simple (once the problem is identified), but it's definitely a dangerous situation that close to the ground. Nothing like watching your airspeed drop slowly from 65 through 50 through 45, lowering the nose and it's still dropping, flying level at about 300 feet AGL, waiting for the stall horn to go off, then the plane starts to buffet slightly from overspeed as the indicated airspeed drops to zero. That's when it was obvious what was happening. Mishandling a similar situation downed a 757 departing from the Dominican Republic (Birgenair Flight 301, mud dauber wasp in the pitot tube) in 1996, and ice blocking the pitot tube was part of the crash of Air France 447 as well. It's clearly a dangerous situation if the problem is not identified right away, though it's much easier to recover the situation in a small Cessna than in a 757 or an Airbus. It took a little time to determine the problem and then take the appropriate actions, but I realized in that situation that radio calls are a minor part of what's really going on. (Listen to the ATC recordings of the "Miracle on the Hudson". That crew limited their radio calls, and they sounded very calm.) I was scared, definitely, but handling the aircraft and protecting the life of my friend and passenger (and not scaring him) were really my only priorities. It's hard to explain how the fear, real and intense fear, takes a back seat in the moment. It really hit me when the mechanic met me on the ramp and asked what happened. I was kinda shaking once I locked the parking brake and shut down the aircraft. I tried to sound calm in the air for my friend's sake as well as the fact that the radio was just one important step, but not the crucial step, in saving the situation. Unfortunately, he told me later he was terrified the instant he heard me use the word "emergency" on the radio, despite what I had told him about the situation - that it was just an instrument failure, and we were fine. He said he was calm until he heard that one word. A pilot with more experience probably would not have declared an emergency, but I was scared, and if nothing else, I knew my piloting skills were being tested like they had not been tested before. (I was a new pilot, and we didn't simulate this type of emergency in flight training, though I learned about it in ground school.) I didn't want to make a stupid mistake out of fear (and in the moment I saw my fear as a factor, like part of the emergency, not something that was controlling me), and declaring an emergency seemed the easiest way to recruit help in that regard. We landed without incident, and I learned. To me, the saddest part was that my friend decided he would never fly in a small plane again. :(
On my third glider solo flight I got caught in some very nasty weather. It was more than I could handle and it felt like it might be pushing the old K13 glider I was flying to its limits. I aimed my nose at the start of the circuit, pulled the airbrakes and got my arse on the ground as quickly as possible. Having your piloting skills tested is no fun but you just kind of do what needs to be done and think about it more once you get on the ground.
I always found the Irish and Americam accent to be quite similiar, especially the west coast of Ireland. It proberbly makes sense considering many Americans are from Irish decent.
The professionalism and the calmness of the pilots is remarkable, kept all the controllers and ground crew informed. Didn't hear any sign of stress or pressure in there voices
That Boston controller was great too. Gave them a direction and area to hold, didn't pester them with excessive questions and directions and let the pilots run their lists.
That has to be the best video I've seen. The pilot was very professional, very calm and very clear details and instructions. I would feel very safe if I was on his plane.
This is a great video. I’m Irish, and I love flying with Aerlingus. Especially on the return leg. Always feels like you’re in safe hands with the pilots and crew. I remember one senior pilot explaining turbulence to the passengers during moderate chop off the coast of Iceland before when crossing the Atlantic. Good experience.
This video has actually given me more confidence in flying. The AC crew were extremely calm and professional ,"give us some time, we have a long check list to work through", I paraphrase a bit, but most people we would be OMG what are we going to do. ATC were very up to speed and gave the Pilots everything they wanted/needed. The emergency crew were on the ball, I suspect the passengers had little idea what was happening, and were probably calmly told they were returning, the Irish accent/lilt can be very soothing and calm. Well done all.
Hello from 2020 haha. I agree. At first I was like "checklist? Just land the plane as fast as you can!" but then they told ATC about how they would be landing, the parameters and protocol they would be following, and I realized they needed to do the checklist to make sure they landed safely with that hydraulic failure. So impressive how calmly they handled it!
The Irish accents are something else. Such clear, concise, and clearly pronounced communication with ATC ...such a cheerful sounding emergency 💚☘️🍀👨✈️✈️
Thank you again, great presentation, explicit graphics down to the holding pattern, nice editing for better understanding. Your videos provide pilots and ATC alike great examples of airmanship, headwork and professionalism on the part of all involved. I enjoy having the opportunity to benefit from the experience of others before something similar happens to me. Thank you very much for such quality videos, Ciao, L (pilot)
I've noticed from listening to many of these recordings that Irish pilots are usually very polite and professional, more so than other foreign pilots. The worst seem to be Air France pilots, they always seem rude and they often do things like just sit on taxiways waiting for a gate to open up.
Try living 20 miles away from the buggers. They've never forgiven us for leaving at Dunkirk, or for going back, or winning WW2, and then the entire world has to speak ENGLISH to ATC! They are incandescently pissed off!
I spent 20+ years on AD with the USAF. The SCARIEST, but most SECURE feeling at the same time is seeing the crash trucks waiting for that airplane that you are on. You know that there are a bunch of men aboard them that are willing to risk their lives for you...a total stranger. Kudos to the aircraft crew, the ground crews, and the rescue crews!
Watched this video many times. AerLingus has great pilots. Really likes how the pilot speaks slowly and clearly when explaining the emergency situation.
Just a stunning display of professionalism by the flight crew and ATC, I don’t doubt the cabin crew also did a tremendous job keeping passengers informed and comfortable.
That’s mad. ATC should have a calculator in front of them or a sticky note with 1kg = 2.1 lbs written on it. The pilots in emergency shouldn’t have to bother doing the math for ATC.
I like that, even with everything going on, he thinks to inform the controller that he might've dumped the hydraulic fluid on the tarmac. That's some classy crisis management there.
The whole interaction between the Aer Lingus crew, ATC and emergency services was so calm and professional throughout. Just shows how professional and skilled all of these people are. Wonderful to hear.
Loved this. The communications between all parties was exemplary. I piloted a Navajo in Alaska for a few years. I had to preform a gear up landing. It was executed flawlessly due to the support of everyone involved. However, I haven't held a yoke since.
That was genuinely a delight to listen to. even though it was a worry about the outcome, I love how calm, level headed and polite they are despite it all. Aer Lingus, I salute you.
Good thing they took the advice from the controller to have the PAPD ARF crew standing by. Great job by the Port Authority Police. Great communication from the controllers, tower, crew and PAPD Sergeant.
nice to have a happy ending respect to the irish pilots who did as they were trained to do and remain calm and respect to everyone involved for clear precise comunication between each other
I love listening to these conversations and only wish they would all speak as clearly as that ace Irish guy. Well done, Sir. A shining example. I'm sure more mishaps due to the usual rushed speech would be avoided.
If I am not mistaken on 3:00 thats a Cork accent. So sweet. It's like " ah schurre nau we have a cup a tea, while we desend to open a window having a look for aur selfes" No disrespect intended ! It's just his accent. I lived in Ireland for a long time and absolutely LOVED it !
This is probably one of the best Air to Ground Emergency Communications I have ever listened to. That is coming from experience with Airliners on the Fire services side. Great job to everyone involved!!!
"Are you declaring an emergency?" The awesome Irish pilot's would be like "no emergency here lad, we still have two wings and we are quite happy at the moment but we'll let you know if anything changes for the worse".😄👍👍
If I was a passenger and heard those controlled communications...I would be happy that they are doing all they can. Fait play air crew. What a team :-)
I'm a fairly nervous flier, but I'm pretty sure if I'd been on this flight, the pilots could have told me exactly what was going on and I wouldn't have freaked out. Partly because I grew up listening to Irish folk and pub rock music and the accent is comforting to me, partly because these pilots are clearly incredibly well-trained professionals, and partly because the Irish have nerves of adamantium.
Okay this time I will tell you what subtitles you misheard: 0:24 "we do have a technical issue we'd like to deal with" 1:02 "and it may well be dumped on the runway" 1:09 "Hydraulic fluid and you're returning I got that" 1:53 "We'll take a left turn but if we need to take up a hold closer in then we can do that" 2:00 "You let me know as soon as you need" 3:03 "is it possible to request the ILS for 22L?" 3:09 "Our nosewheel steering is inoperative" 3:22 "It's not an issue but it'll look a little bit different to how we normally look" 3:36 "It's within our normal operation but because we have less hydraulics ... so we're touching down a little bit faster than normal" 4:21 "we don't have pounds on gauges" 5:25 "Left turn direct to ROBER" 6:41 "but have the rescue services on stand by, yes please" 6:43 "Okay, I'll make the call, they'll be there" 7:25 "in the event of a go around" 7:37 "I want you to maintain, just maintain 2000 if you have to go around - 2000" 8:41 "are you coming to a complete stop this time sir?" 8:58 "We require towing from this position" 9:17 "any fluid dripping from underneath the aircraft" 9:43 "We have products being deployed 9:50 "detect some sort of fire" 9:57 "switch to this frequency and give you further information" 10:10 "Yes sir, just be advised all the vehicles should be on 21.65 to talk to them right now. I imagine there's gonna be a lot of conversation back and forth" 10:30 "Are you showing any negative" 10:37 "make sure nobody else speaks apart from you" 11:06 "We shall remain as we are. Could you let me know if there's any change to the situation?" 11:31 (Shamrock 11EA) "Yup" 12:00 "It's possible that we might not be able to taxi at all from here"
VASAviation - I agree but I just had to point it out, as some things missing were rather crucial, like 'you' instead of 'us' for example. Of course correct speech in aviation is so important.
bored of these comments. the video has already been made and published, to an excellent standard, your corrections are accurate but ultimately redundant.
if there is ONE thing I wished this channel would improve upon, it is correct subtitles... Sooooo many mistakes. I understand there's a rush to get these videos out soon after incidents (while they're still relevent), but c'mon, man!!!
It was very nice to hear ATC prioritizing what they needed over souls and fuel on board. Great communication, and one of the reasons when I finally make it to Ireland I'll be flying Aer Lingus.
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That irish Shamrock guy speaks crystal clear, and he actually makes sure it is clear.
Ivan Eduardo Veloz Guerrero Exactly my thought! And in a very professional and polite way.
I think his accent is probably much stronger in everyday life but when flying he makes a big effort to take the edge off it so its clear
Which is remarkable given the perculiar situation they're in!
Radio clarity might be due to clear line of sight between plane and the volunteer ground receiver. The receivers often have poor or partial coverage (if any) of airport transmitters. Ground to ground is often not received at all for unofficial logging
The second Irish guy is too fast, not as clear
Wow... I really love the attitude from the Irish crew. Situation firmly in hand, they tell ATC clearly what they need, they say when they are unable or uncomfortable, they think about others ('might have spilled') and ahead for themselves ('in case of go-around'), they keep calm and even polite (!) during all of it. It's hard to find a better example of true airmanship than this bit of communication.
Peter Timowreef Well, to be perfectly honest, I assumed their citizenship based on their airline's hub... Might indeed not be irish pilots.
Bizarre comment...what are you getting at?
Peter Timowreef Now I'm curious... did you think I was a proud irishman, elevating the 'Irishness' of the crew because they did well? Or did you think, I was adding the qualifier 'irish' because I was somehow thinking this top-notch airmanship was unusual for irishmen?!?
'Cause... neither is true :)
I've worked in the Madrid airport with Irish persons and they are calm and the politest people of the world. Never had a problem. In this case I think they should have declared officially emergency.
I think you assumption might be correct considering the accents haha
In 80 years, Aer Lingus has had only two fatal crashs, both involving propeller driven planes, a DC3 and a Vickers Viscount, they have one of the best safety records of any airline, this video shows how competent their flight crews are.
NIc Fewer Luck of the Irish!
ナコルル王女 why I love aer lingus. Professionalism and safety
Ask Dustin Hoffman who the safest is. Rainman.....
You can really see why, they are perfectly trained in minimizing risks. These are not only the obvious things, like calling rescue even if you expect everything to go normal or the preparation of a easier go-around, these are also the small things like staying at 220 instead of accelerating. Sure no one is expecting anything to happen, but why should you accelerated to 250 when your plane is in good condition at 220.
@Nic Fewer: And the Viscount is still a mystery. What did happen to the Viscount?
The Aer Lingus captain is a credit to his company.
No doubt about it. Probably the most professional I've heard since subbing to this channel. And that is saying a lot!
Not an Aer Lingus captain, the crew is from ASL Ireland operating their 757 for Aer Lingus.
@@hennobelvedere4812 True ...
Then much credit should be given to ASL Ireland.
They were the most clearly spoken crew I have ever heard. This is a shining example of what to do in an emergency.
American Airlines pilots converting kilograms to pounds...
pilots helping their fellow pilots out.
Totally unnecessary though if Americans caught up with the rest of the world and used the metric system. Nobody but Americans uses pounds anymore. We all use kilograms...
@@bobmarshall3700 well except for in all of aviation with well these exceptions
@@bobmarshall3700 The best part is that pounds is actually defined by the kilogram since 1893. I wish we would switch; it only makes sense to do so.
@@bobmarshall3700 Still, aviation uses a lot of non-metric units. Altitudes in feet and flightlevels, and speeds in knots...
@@bobmarshall3700 USA's measures ARE absurd. As a US citizen I can attest to that, but does the rest of the world use a base-10 system for time keeping? 60 seconds in a minute. 60 minutes in an hour. a base-10 system for ALL measures would be best for all of us __BUT__ (here in the usa) we have so much infrastructure based on our current measures it would be an insane amount of effort to get EVERYTHING converted.. just as it would take an insane amount of effort for the rest of the world to switch to a base-10 time-keeping system.
Shamrock's captain is one of the most polite i've ever heard. Nicee!
Well he was potentially about to meet St. Peter best to leave a good impression upon entry.
Captain was probably flying and FO on the radio
@@Jude74 There was never a threat to the safety of the plane prior to landing. The only concern was risk of the gear catching fire upon braking. By that point, firetrucks would be standing by and immediately extinguish it. There was no risk of loss of life :)
That AAL pilot that did the kg-lbs conversion is one true airman ! Nice gesture of him to take that task of the controllers shoulder (everybody working in aviation knows how annoying metric - > US conversion and vice versa is).
All in all very professional dialogue, espececially by the EIN pilot giving the controllers as much as information as possible and kind of have the controller with them in the cockpit. Great airmanship all in all !
+marcel1416 I loved editing this one! I loved the EIN pilots as well for the reason you mentioned. It is not common to give the ATC all that info. Gear doors position, brake config, landing speed...
VASAviation -
Yeah I know, really uncommon, but very very professional and his voice was so clear and distinct, no sign of nervousness in his voice.
Interesting, that it was not declared as an emergency, Of course the 757 has some kind of reserve system or independant hydraulic systems for the important controls but still, with that many things inop (he also told the controller) to not declare an emergency, wow. The pilot seemed to be pretty confident.
Airbus and Boeing have 3 fully independent hydraulic systems. So partial loss of fluid in one system isn't that serious. It's certainly not life threatening (a mayday is used to imply imminent or actual threat to life)
+marcel1416 I bet he got his E6-B whizz-wheel out as soon as he heard the KG figure :)
Well how are you sure he didn't just google it
These guys are the epitome of professionalism.
Jester I would love for the pilots to read this because if I ever have to be an emergency situation I would 1,000% trust this flight crew.
They are the epitome of unprofessionalism for not declaring an emergency!!!
+Gavin Singh. I disagree.
It is an emergency when an aircraft is on fire, has severe loss of control, engine failure, or is running out of fuel..
None of this applied, so planning a safe landing, giving himself time to fully think things through and requesting fire trucks mobilized was the best solution. He also informed ATC that the runway would need to be checked for hydraulic fluid spill following his landing.
As well as putting other aircraft at risk by jumping the landing sequence at a busy airport. Rushing to get the plane on the ground would not have been the safest option.
You need to remember that once he dropped the landing gear, he had no means of retracting it. This made correct planning even more vital.
The term "emergency" is easily misunderstood.
Every day at Heathrow, a plane comes in with minor technical faults. Declaring every one as an emergency would cause chaos and put lives at far greater risk.
@@gavinsingh4450 They had full flight controls and the engines weren't in danger. Their landing gear has failsafes so that it extends in the event of loss of hydraulics. They informed tower that they weren't an emergency but that emergency crews should be standing by because of the risk of fire on landing. They didn't need priority landing clearance so there was no need to declare emergency. There was no risk while they were airborne other than they can't complete their intended flight with landing gear extended.
Agree!
love how the AAL crew helped out with conversion from kilos to pounds!
Yes, I think the AAL crew observed slight upset in ATC guy voice ( I did!) when he was asked to convert these kilos to pounds and that's what made them help; for them that particular conversion is propably a walk in the park.
Nevertheless, ATC guy should independently check their math,but something tells me he didn't 😁 estimation was right anyway.
But as others said, this video is PACKED with professionalism.
I never used pounds in my life for anything, yet I still know that 1 kg is 2.2 lbs. Come on.
Onkel Fabs “US Americans”?? As opposed as to what other Americans?
for most of the world Americans live from Canada all the way down to Chile. Only in the States we call ourselves Americans. Not a big deal actually.
every ATC should be able ,in fraction of seconds, able to convert Kg to pounds, and metes to feets. Just to mention few .... Feet/pound/gallons are useless and obsolete measurement units. I say this as engineer and American too ..... No need to use those old systems anymore. Is not a matter of proud or lack of nationalism ... it is just more practical. Nasa, space X, manufacturers uses tipically MKS system (meters/kilogram/second) as is very accurate and simple to convert in other units if necessary. It is just very practical. One example ?? 57400 liters of water are 57400 kilograms of water and are 57.4 tons. Also are 57,4 cubic meters of water. Try to do that with gallons to pounds to tons and then to cubic feet. .
What a impressive handling by the pilots. Really almost inhuman accuracy and calmness. To even go as far as to remind about gear doors and hydraulic spills left behind. insane.
This^^
EXACTLY my sentiments. Even in the end when he let's the ground trucks know that the fire upon landing was likely caused by the hydraulic fluid being ignited by the hot braking upon landing... the pilots were on top of the situation the WHOLE time. My hat's off. Damn impressive.
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LMAO
That Irish accent is not only cute and adorable, it's also very calm and comforting
MustardMan69 ...and clear to understand 😉
This is the most Irish thing I've heard in a while.
Plane: Half our plane is broken, do you mind if we come back?
ATC: Are you declaring an emergency?
Shamrock: Oh, let's not go that far. It's more like a very fast landing.
[later]
ATC: Did you know your plane was on fire?
Shamrock: Oh, is it? Would you terribly mind extinguishing it when you get a chance? Ta!
XD Best one was when the ground crew told him the fire had been put out, and the FO's concern seems to be to insist that it was just the breaking fluid, and nothing worse, and that he's terribly sorry about the whole thing. And it's a little bit embarrassing, really, and they're sorry they had to be towed off the runway and causing all this inconvenience.
They were finishing the onboard stock of Guinness!
Reminds me of a Monty Python skit where the British office had his arm cut off but insisted it was a flesh wound-no worries!
Right on, lol, I was gonna say the Irish chap was extremely calm during all of this action.
@@Mountchoirboy That was the Black Knight!
I could listen to that pilot say "Shamrock 11EA" in that accent all day long. Excellent job by both pilots and ATC. Very professional!
Aer Lingus are one of the safest, most efficient, professional and caring airlines in Europe. Their safety record is second to none and their crews are calm, reassuring and highly trained as you hear in this clip.
Shame Alan Joyce had to come to Australia and trash a once-great Qantas.
APP: Do you want to crash rescue ready?
CPT: Yes, please...
This guy have some good manners even when situation is dangerous :)
+Da`Man If it's an emergency you don't have to be polite :)
+Da`Man We Celts are good like that ;-)
Aw, it's not just you Celts :P Pilots and controllers in general seem unusually able to retain a level of calm and professionalism in their communications during emergencies. This example certainly shows that very clearly, but there are many others from all parts of the world. I think most exceptions to that general rule wind up here on YT, so they're not hard to find.
I've experienced this personally, on both sides of the radio. (The following wall of words are my personal experiences, so skip if you prefer.) I worked operations for a regional carrier in the 1990s, and over the years we had 2-3 crews coming in to land without all gear indicating down and locked (though tower fly-by observation indicated normal gear down), and one with a suspicious bag on board (during the air war phase of Desert Storm), and it's strange to me how they just sounded like their ordinary selves when they informed me by radio of the situation. I was the one who was all nervous. It's hard to know how to reply to them in that kind of situation. One reply I gave was "Sundance 612 copy that. Er, good luck." I learned that was NOT the kind of reply I should have given :( "Good luck" is not what they want to hear. Pilots in emergencies feel the fear, but they don't ever talk about it until they are safe on the ground and in the pilot lounge. Their attitude in the air is that they WILL work the problem until everyone is safe, no luck required. The fear is there, but they are too busy with their priorities of saving the situation to deal with the fear. It really works that way.
Only two years later did I find myself in an emergency as a private pilot (pretty low time - ~85 hours or so) when a wasp had blocked the pitot tube in my C172, rendering my airspeed indicator inoperative, just a few hundred feet after takeoff. The procedure is simple (once the problem is identified), but it's definitely a dangerous situation that close to the ground. Nothing like watching your airspeed drop slowly from 65 through 50 through 45, lowering the nose and it's still dropping, flying level at about 300 feet AGL, waiting for the stall horn to go off, then the plane starts to buffet slightly from overspeed as the indicated airspeed drops to zero. That's when it was obvious what was happening. Mishandling a similar situation downed a 757 departing from the Dominican Republic (Birgenair Flight 301, mud dauber wasp in the pitot tube) in 1996, and ice blocking the pitot tube was part of the crash of Air France 447 as well. It's clearly a dangerous situation if the problem is not identified right away, though it's much easier to recover the situation in a small Cessna than in a 757 or an Airbus.
It took a little time to determine the problem and then take the appropriate actions, but I realized in that situation that radio calls are a minor part of what's really going on. (Listen to the ATC recordings of the "Miracle on the Hudson". That crew limited their radio calls, and they sounded very calm.) I was scared, definitely, but handling the aircraft and protecting the life of my friend and passenger (and not scaring him) were really my only priorities. It's hard to explain how the fear, real and intense fear, takes a back seat in the moment. It really hit me when the mechanic met me on the ramp and asked what happened. I was kinda shaking once I locked the parking brake and shut down the aircraft. I tried to sound calm in the air for my friend's sake as well as the fact that the radio was just one important step, but not the crucial step, in saving the situation. Unfortunately, he told me later he was terrified the instant he heard me use the word "emergency" on the radio, despite what I had told him about the situation - that it was just an instrument failure, and we were fine. He said he was calm until he heard that one word.
A pilot with more experience probably would not have declared an emergency, but I was scared, and if nothing else, I knew my piloting skills were being tested like they had not been tested before. (I was a new pilot, and we didn't simulate this type of emergency in flight training, though I learned about it in ground school.) I didn't want to make a stupid mistake out of fear (and in the moment I saw my fear as a factor, like part of the emergency, not something that was controlling me), and declaring an emergency seemed the easiest way to recruit help in that regard. We landed without incident, and I learned.
To me, the saddest part was that my friend decided he would never fly in a small plane again. :(
+dcs002 glad you shared that, compelling story
On my third glider solo flight I got caught in some very nasty weather. It was more than I could handle and it felt like it might be pushing the old K13 glider I was flying to its limits. I aimed my nose at the start of the circuit, pulled the airbrakes and got my arse on the ground as quickly as possible. Having your piloting skills tested is no fun but you just kind of do what needs to be done and think about it more once you get on the ground.
I loved the interaction between the Irish and New York accents.
Yeah, what an interesting contrast.
Yes!
I always found the Irish and Americam accent to be quite similiar, especially the west coast of Ireland. It proberbly makes sense considering many Americans are from Irish decent.
@@damian-795 🤡
@@rogerscottcathey Contrast? Oh they're very similar. Massachusetts more so.
The professionalism and the calmness of the pilots is remarkable, kept all the controllers and ground crew informed. Didn't hear any sign of stress or pressure in there voices
That Boston controller was great too. Gave them a direction and area to hold, didn't pester them with excessive questions and directions and let the pilots run their lists.
This pilot is extremely professional and calm. He couldn’t have handled the situation any better. He should be extremely proud of himself.
That has to be the best video I've seen. The pilot was very professional, very calm and very clear details and instructions. I would feel very safe if I was on his plane.
Aer Lingus have a fantastic safety record. There have been no crash fatalities in the last 50 years.
It wouldn't matter who was in the left seat if the wings came off...
@@AndyMcGeever true... but for 99.999999999999% of aircraft emergencies, the wings stay attached.
That pilot and copilot have the clearest voices I've ever heard. Maybe they should teach that dialect to all pilots.
This is a great video. I’m Irish, and I love flying with Aerlingus. Especially on the return leg. Always feels like you’re in safe hands with the pilots and crew. I remember one senior pilot explaining turbulence to the passengers during moderate chop off the coast of Iceland before when crossing the Atlantic. Good experience.
This video has actually given me more confidence in flying. The AC crew were extremely calm and professional ,"give us some time, we have a long check list to work through", I paraphrase a bit, but most people we would be OMG what are we going to do.
ATC were very up to speed and gave the Pilots everything they wanted/needed.
The emergency crew were on the ball, I suspect the passengers had little idea what was happening, and were probably calmly told they were returning, the Irish accent/lilt can be very soothing and calm.
Well done all.
That's so great!! :)
Hello from 2020 haha. I agree. At first I was like "checklist? Just land the plane as fast as you can!" but then they told ATC about how they would be landing, the parameters and protocol they would be following, and I realized they needed to do the checklist to make sure they landed safely with that hydraulic failure. So impressive how calmly they handled it!
The Irish accents are something else. Such clear, concise, and clearly pronounced communication with ATC ...such a cheerful sounding emergency 💚☘️🍀👨✈️✈️
We used to nicely tease my friend on her 33.3333 tirty tree and a turd. On the phone she was incomprehensible
so much professionalism from everybody in this video. love it.
Sounds like County Cork's finest! Excellent professionalism and calmness from pilots. Kudos to Aer Lingus, ATC, Ground & Emergency Sevices
Andrew Boate - What has Aer Lingus to do with it, idiot?
Montenotte I would guess!
This must be the most wholesome pilot I've ever heard.
Just impressed by the clarity of communication by the flight crew given the situation. Very professional. 🍀
Thank you again, great presentation, explicit graphics down to the holding pattern, nice editing for better understanding. Your videos provide pilots and ATC alike great examples of airmanship, headwork and professionalism on the part of all involved. I enjoy having the opportunity to benefit from the experience of others before something similar happens to me. Thank you very much for such quality videos, Ciao, L (pilot)
+lancelot1953 Awesome to read you comments, man!! Really appreciate your words!! :)
*Everyone is mentioning the flight crews. I thought the controllers and emergency vehicles did a great job!*
That's one calm, kind and excellent pilot. I'm impressed, very well done!
This probarly is the most profesional communication i have ever heard.
These guys were typically Irish, visit Ireland if you have never been, they are all like this. Thanks for the video
niloc6336 ah not really. We have our fair share of arseholes 😆
@@IrishRunningVlog don't we all haha :D , but you can be damn sure these pilots made you guys look awesome!
This is my most favourite VASAviation Video. I never get tired watching it.
One of the bests, no doubt. Professionality all around.
I've noticed from listening to many of these recordings that Irish pilots are usually very polite and professional, more so than other foreign pilots. The worst seem to be Air France pilots, they always seem rude and they often do things like just sit on taxiways waiting for a gate to open up.
they are pissed that they have to speak english..
Everyone has to speak French when the shit hits the fan.
Try living 20 miles away from the buggers. They've never forgiven us for leaving at Dunkirk, or for going back, or winning WW2, and then the entire world has to speak ENGLISH to ATC! They are incandescently pissed off!
True
@@Insperato62 "Incandescently" pissed off. Awesome use of the word!
I've got " Shamrock Eleven Echo Alpha" as my message tone...
Please make it available publicly to all of us admiring those flying professionals !
What a great Job every one did that took part. Cheers for our Ireland brothers!
the way how this pilot speaks is sooooòo clear. love it.
Wow! Wow! I am so proud of these true airmen! Calm and collect. They worked the problem and didn't let the problem work them!
I spent 20+ years on AD with the USAF. The SCARIEST, but most SECURE feeling at the same time is seeing the crash trucks waiting for that airplane that you are on. You know that there are a bunch of men aboard them that are willing to risk their lives for you...a total stranger. Kudos to the aircraft crew, the ground crews, and the rescue crews!
Watched this video many times. AerLingus has great pilots. Really likes how the pilot speaks slowly and clearly when explaining the emergency situation.
Total professionalism from everyone involved.
I would fly with these pilots anytime anyway. Clear, calm, concise. Very impressive.
Just a stunning display of professionalism by the flight crew and ATC, I don’t doubt the cabin crew also did a tremendous job keeping passengers informed and comfortable.
"Kennedy, Shamrock 11EA, you want any detail from us or are you okay?" So polite :D
Shout out to the guy who ripped the conversion of KG to LBS over comms hahahaha
That’s mad. ATC should have a calculator in front of them or a sticky note with 1kg = 2.1 lbs written on it.
The pilots in emergency shouldn’t have to bother doing the math for ATC.
Shamrock, eh? He really gives the call sign some spirit.
That pilot is one cool customer. Professionalism all round.
I like that, even with everything going on, he thinks to inform the controller that he might've dumped the hydraulic fluid on the tarmac. That's some classy crisis management there.
Agree, and it turned out to be a very important note, since the fluid not only dripped on the runway, but also on the hot brakes
The whole interaction between the Aer Lingus crew, ATC and emergency services was so calm and professional throughout. Just shows how professional and skilled all of these people are. Wonderful to hear.
Just another example of airmanship by everybody, crew, ATC, emergency team! Great job!
Loved this. The communications between all parties was exemplary. I piloted a Navajo in Alaska for a few years. I had to preform a gear up landing. It was executed flawlessly due to the support of everyone involved. However, I haven't held a yoke since.
This pilot was the most concise, clear spoken, everything thought out, informative to the tower I've ever seen.
Exceptional quality of communication from the pilot there and great anticipation of the information which would be required by ATC and ground crew.
That was genuinely a delight to listen to. even though it was a worry about the outcome, I love how calm, level headed and polite they are despite it all. Aer Lingus, I salute you.
RagnarisFellhanded - Nothing to do with Aer Lingus. Check your facts before posting FAKE NEWS.
Look who's stupid now? The Irish crew relating all the information impeccably. Crystal clear, word after word, syllable after syllable. Lovely chaps.
Wow, that's gotta be the best captain in the sky!! Extremely professional, polite, and well executed. Great video man!!
very polite pilots thats very nice.
Good thing they took the advice from the controller to have the PAPD ARF crew standing by. Great job by the Port Authority Police. Great communication from the controllers, tower, crew and PAPD Sergeant.
nice to have a happy ending respect to the irish pilots who did as they were trained to do and remain calm and respect to everyone involved for clear precise comunication between each other
Wow!
That was a great piece of airmanship. It's a pleasure to hear such professionalism, clear thinking and calmness in a dangerous situation.
Outstanding crew performance. A real positive representation of Aer Lingus!
Would fly with Aer Lingus anytime. Wow what pros. BZ.
F Amore - It wasn’t Aer Lingus, dufus.
It was Aer Lingus
@@TimSmyth23 What u talking about
Brilliant communication display. Hats off to all involved!
Brilliant professionalism from the Air Lingus crew, a pleasure to listen to.
Absolutely! :)
whp61 - It’s spelt ‘Aer’, and it’s not Aer Lingus, it’s ASL - dufus.
@@TimSmyth23 It's Aer Lingus
I love listening to these conversations and only wish they would all speak as clearly as that ace Irish guy. Well done, Sir. A shining example. I'm sure more mishaps due to the usual rushed speech would be avoided.
"we dont have fuel in pounds can we give it to you in kilos?" that just made my day
Such awesome professionalism with all parties involved makes me proud to be human
If I am not mistaken on 3:00 thats a Cork accent. So sweet. It's like " ah schurre nau we have a cup a tea, while we desend to open a window having a look for aur selfes" No disrespect intended ! It's just his accent. I lived in Ireland for a long time and absolutely LOVED it !
It's not Cork.. could be Tipp though.
Sounds posh Cork to me.
I'm not sure if it's the accent but I feel this was handled 100% perfectly. Both pilots are a massive credit to Aer Lingus
Jc Dock - They don’t even work for Aer Lingus, you idiot.
@@TimSmyth23 Dude, you need to calm the F*ck down.
Total professionalism from the flight crew, controllers, and fire crews. Made a bad situation very controlled.
Excellent video. All personnel concerned were very professional and maintained complete control of the situation. The Aer Lingus pilots were superb.
This is probably one of the best Air to Ground Emergency Communications I have ever listened to. That is coming from experience with Airliners on the Fire services side. Great job to everyone involved!!!
Irish people sound happy and positive even in emergency situations, in a good way
😁😁 True
Amazing how I could understand them perfectly. Very very cristal clear. Congrats to the crew
I’ve had the privilege of flying Aer Lingus and they are the best! Everyone could use lessons in politeness and courtesy from them.
Me too, it's a wonderful airlines to fly.
This pilot is awesome! So clear, polite, professional and calm. I'd certainly buy him a Guinness or two if I met him!
This pilot is so professional bro!
Great job by the pilot (and ll controllers and ground crew). Superb professionalism and polite but not hesitant to ask for what he wants.
as scary as this would be as a passenger, it would have been so comforting to hear that communication. Great job to ATC and pilots.
That Shamrock captain was as cool as a cucumber.
Well done Irish flight crew. 👏👏👏👏👏
Magnificent. Such a fascination. Professionals at work. I have a high regard for Aer Lingus
"Are you declaring an emergency?" The awesome Irish pilot's would be like "no emergency here lad, we still have two wings and we are quite happy at the moment but we'll let you know if anything changes for the worse".😄👍👍
If I was a passenger and heard those controlled communications...I would be happy that they are doing all they can. Fait play air crew. What a team :-)
The level of calm and professionalism from both the shamrock crew and ATC, were very impressive. Well done, people!
I'm a fairly nervous flier, but I'm pretty sure if I'd been on this flight, the pilots could have told me exactly what was going on and I wouldn't have freaked out. Partly because I grew up listening to Irish folk and pub rock music and the accent is comforting to me, partly because these pilots are clearly incredibly well-trained professionals, and partly because the Irish have nerves of adamantium.
Such professionalism by the Aer Lingus crew!
whatever8282828 - They aren’t an Aer Lingus crew, idiot.
Very calm crew and atc 👍. Almost Too polite, it was an emergency. I can see most other airlines demanding emergency protocol from atc.
VASAviation: Excellent coverage with subtitles and route visuals. Thanks.
I would more than happily transfer my ratings to Ireland and join up with Aer Lingus cause these gents are TOP NOTCH. They were so on top of it.
that was super-pro, exactly what i expect from everyone (which is not the case, sadly)
my sentiments exactly. word for word.
Very polite&cool headed professionalism! Those Irish fellas had me feeling pretty relaxed considering the plane's troubles.
Okay this time I will tell you what subtitles you misheard:
0:24 "we do have a technical issue we'd like to deal with"
1:02 "and it may well be dumped on the runway"
1:09 "Hydraulic fluid and you're returning I got that"
1:53 "We'll take a left turn but if we need to take up a hold closer in then we can do that"
2:00 "You let me know as soon as you need"
3:03 "is it possible to request the ILS for 22L?"
3:09 "Our nosewheel steering is inoperative"
3:22 "It's not an issue but it'll look a little bit different to how we normally look"
3:36 "It's within our normal operation but because we have less hydraulics ... so we're touching down a little bit faster than normal"
4:21 "we don't have pounds on gauges"
5:25 "Left turn direct to ROBER"
6:41 "but have the rescue services on stand by, yes please"
6:43 "Okay, I'll make the call, they'll be there"
7:25 "in the event of a go around"
7:37 "I want you to maintain, just maintain 2000 if you have to go around - 2000"
8:41 "are you coming to a complete stop this time sir?"
8:58 "We require towing from this position"
9:17 "any fluid dripping from underneath the aircraft"
9:43 "We have products being deployed
9:50 "detect some sort of fire"
9:57 "switch to this frequency and give you further information"
10:10 "Yes sir, just be advised all the vehicles should be on 21.65 to talk to them right now. I imagine there's gonna be a lot of conversation back and forth"
10:30 "Are you showing any negative"
10:37 "make sure nobody else speaks apart from you"
11:06 "We shall remain as we are. Could you let me know if there's any change to the situation?"
11:31 (Shamrock 11EA) "Yup"
12:00 "It's possible that we might not be able to taxi at all from here"
You're 9 months late on this but appreciate it anyways :)
VASAviation - I agree but I just had to point it out, as some things missing were rather crucial, like 'you' instead of 'us' for example. Of course correct speech in aviation is so important.
+VASAviation Better late than never!!
bored of these comments. the video has already been made and published, to an excellent standard, your corrections are accurate but ultimately redundant.
if there is ONE thing I wished this channel would improve upon, it is correct subtitles... Sooooo many mistakes. I understand there's a rush to get these videos out soon after incidents (while they're still relevent), but c'mon, man!!!
Class Class Class. These guys are amazing.
classy irish
What professionals all around. Great pilots!
An excellent emergency handling of all team members, the crew, ATC and Ground/Emergency services
It was very nice to hear ATC prioritizing what they needed over souls and fuel on board. Great communication, and one of the reasons when I finally make it to Ireland I'll be flying Aer Lingus.
Very professionally handled by all involved. Good Job!