BMW M3 E36 EVO Convertible 1997 3.2 M Power
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- In this video we take a look at a BMW M3 E36 in Estoril blue that we have been offered and are considering buying as our next little project. We also take a trip to a company called 'Bridgend Recycling ' a huge BMW Dismantler and Spares specialist.
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I’d sleep on it too, Rob. The difficulty I have is with the asking price for the vehicle.
I’m a BMW man. And I would say that you won’t make much out of that. Beautiful cars but expensive and people expect concourse condition for scrap money.
Would make great content though.
Using your saying.... "you make your profit when you buy the car". I think you'd need to knock 1k off the price to stay in the safe zone. Looks like quite a bit of work needs doing underneath.
Mate around £1k to £1.5k too dear on this one . I could be wrong but think it's a little high . Good luck boys
far too expensive asking price with the work that's needing done, no brainer walk away
Leave it well alone Rob BMW senior tech 30 years
I take it would be a money put Nigel? Are they worth touching these M3s or leave well alone?
I would walk away rob there’s too much to be done and the dampness in the boot you don’t know what damage it has done to the floor keep up the great work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
Back in the day this was the ultimate PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) cruiser in SoCal!
The consistency of people saying don’t buy it is amazing! But no worries Rob, this was a great video and shows the work you have to put in sometimes before making a decision. It is interesting content even if you don’t buy it.
Rob you've answered your own question by not buying it when you went to see it. Your head is telling you to walk away and your heart is saying buy it!
Keep up the good work 👍
Wheeler Dealers (I know!) did one years ago. Edd had to strip the seats (motorised/heated?) to make a quality pair. I think their gearbox needed swapping too. You missed tyres from your costing. PH forum will tell you about boot drain fixes. Track days beckon, coupe more favoured for that?
My thoughts Rob are keep looking. It does look ropey underneath and when you clean that off who knows how bad the rust could be.....and the weather at the moment and time of year by the time it's finished are not going to be favourable for a top money sale.. Good luck whatever you decide.
Cheers, Bob
Rob, I worked for a B.M.W main dealer for some years, brings back memories. You know a B.M.W breaker, they would be a big help. Needs saving.
The flashing Oil light indicates that oil LEVEL (not pressure) sensor is knackered. Not a major issue if you check oil level by the dipstick, but easy to spot and worry a potential buyer. The sensor is easy to replace but costs more than £100.
I love the E36 BMWs! I had a 328i and it was fantastic to drive but was ropey to look as but it was a very cheap car for how mechanically sorted it was so I drove it around and loved every minute of it. If you can then you should buy this M3 no doubt but it does need a fair bit of work to bring it back how it should be.
I’ll be glued to this project 😄
Great video, i purchased a 96 evo, estoril cab in 2010 for 5k. I still have the car, love it. Thanks for sharing.
It doesn’t sound that profitable but if anyone can do it, you two can! 💪
Always pays to check where the diff mounts to the body underneath as they tend to split there.
9k : you'll make that on adverts 😂🤣😂
Good show as always .
Yes Rob the content variety on this channel just keeps getting better and better mate.
Thank you
I’ve got a Monimoto, a little bit more money but a cracking unit!
It may be me but I would say just be careful with this one, could end up being expensive.
Especially the dampness in the boot!
Agreed I flogged my S reg Evo for 4k, you need the proper parts on these no pattern bits and it gets very expensive. I even chucked the hardtop in! The guys who bought it used the engine and rear axel with a straight cut box in a time trial E36 so that makes me happy to know she lives on!
Selling price needs to be around the 5k mark
Looks like an M3 Evo. I had the front bumper from one of these on my E36 318ti Compact back in 2004. I was only 18!
Best m3 made imho. Had 3 of them in the past. I can't believe they haven't shot up in money yet, it will happen. Sold my last one a few years ago. Gutted I sold. Definitely buy one lads
I think it's the seat back panel that's been replaced, and check the double Vanos, that was a weak point. Best colour, Estoril Blue and the original wheels. They were an option on E36 Coupe & Saloon. Epic cars, still quick now & the first true 100 bhp per litre engine for a n/a road car. I recon it's worth every penny as everything else has been messed about with and ruined. Good luck
Ideally check the Vanos and pressure test the cylinders just make sure the power is still there
Rob, I was always taught that you sometimes need to loose the battle to win the war!
I know supply is a bit dry at the moment but I’d hold my nerve and invest else where.
Classic BMW enthusiasts can be as exacting as their cars
I love your videos I know nothing about repairing cars but it’s so interesting to see you do your stuff
Hi Rob I'm not a car expert by any means .... but a very good friend of mine once told me always go with your gut feeling .. my gut feeling whaching the video is .... give it a miss mate ... love the videos ..thank you so much
Regards mark
Don’t miss the salvage videos yet to be honest, loving the classics you’ve got going through!
I'm late to the party everybody's saying leave it, I'd agree looking at the video of underneath. My bet is there are quite a few lines including that fuel line need replacing or soon will. There's probably going to be some rubber bushings/shocks and brake components getting old that are past it or will need changing very soon after a new owner puts it on the road to. Thanks for the video, Take care guys.
Nearly spat my tea out when you said 7.5k
Hahahah brilliant
Loll ikr
Way to much for this example
Now you are talking my language, amazing car and colour choice. Brings back soooo many messages. Wish I could justify having a weekend car.
Personally i would avoid that and put the money in 3 door cossie instead
problem is its all about buying and making money and to make money you have to spend money if he puts it into the cossie then he is not making money lol its 50 50 you have your profits and the money you use to buy stuff to sell im sure he as is own funds for the cossie set aside but in the mean time he needs to buy cars to sell on to make more money
@@AdamSNook. yeah fair enough never looked at it that way
Yes a Cosworth you can’t go wrong and their so in demand. You’ll sell one whatever conditions their in.
Mate. I don't know if you been stalking me but you seem to buy/find all the motors I would buy if I had the cash. Soft top BMW M3 has to be bought. Proper iconic M3. Love it
I say walk, the coupes are more sought after than the convertibles, at the price you’re being offered it plus your breakdown of works required and materials you’re already getting up towards the 10k mark.
Without the surprises you’ll find along the way as you delve deeper into the project.
Best of luck whatever you decide guys- keep up the good work 👍
My son has a thing for E36’s. He’s had two cars that combined make up this car being a 325 convertible & and an M3 EVO. Both P plate. Both looked nice superficially & like this one apparently only needing minor bits & pieces. But the reality is that he could never get on top of the stuff either of them needed doing & keep them on the road. The roof on the convertible has so many micro switches, motors & servos, that’s without sorting the leaks. You’ll never fix everything that needs sorting to the standard you like to achieve & make money.
WONDERFUL CAR !!
I always wanted an M3, but the running costs were too much, so I had to settle for a 328is coupe in boston green, with the M50 manifold conversion, simota carbon fibre induction kit, remap.
This is a stunner mate, love it.
Unlike some, I don't think it's over priced either. About 5 years ago, really mint ones were fetching 7 to 8 grand, but now they are 12 to 15 for a minter.
Really is a lovely car but when you factor all the time and parts in the figures must add up at the end of the day and if they are too tight you just have to walk away and keep looking
I agree, In the 1990's I owned both a new 5 series and 7 series. Beautiful cars when new and everything worked. But I wouldn't buy a high mileage car of that vintage for £12K +. If something goes wrong mechanically the costs of repair will be high.
I so wanted one of these as a teenager, funny how dated they look now... love your channel lads, keep up the good work.
Rob, owned three of these. Currently own an Imola individual one of 50 made (see my channel for a video)
Drive the Evo and make sure it picks up at 2500 rpm and 5500rpm. If it doesn't the vanos is shot.
Oil leak on the back of the engine is usually a cheap fix and common.
Seats are from a sport E36. So any of them in a coupe or convertible should work.
Look for rust under the side skirts and around the jacking mounts.
Loft the boot rubber near the boot latch and look for rust.
Let it warm right up and check it goes in gear ok. These are known to drag on the clutch. If yours is doing this change the clutch hose for a braided type.
The hood will release from a cable under the rear seat. This disengaged the motors, once pulled, you need to go in the boot and push the motors back into slot.
The brake discs are not cheap, they have vented discs and around £150 a corner for genuine parts.
That's also, too much money IMO. Convertibles are the hardest to sell as everyone wants a coupe. In really nice condition with no faults, full history would be tops £10,000 absolute tops. Great cars
Seem to remember the rear sub frames were a bit suspect in the convertibles worth having a closer check, think they tried to rip themselves out the floor.
Wasn’t that later ones E46, or were these the same?
That's the e46 with the subframe issue not the e36.
There’s a salvage / MOT failure page on Facebook which has a few little steals & classics on it now and again, definitely worth a look
Beautiful car I have an m3 evo coupe in estoril blue check if the vanos has ever been replaced this is a common thing on the e36 evo as they can leak because of perished seals and become noisy
If anyone could turn it around you two could. But I nearly choked on my tea when you said the asking price. I’m no car expert but it seems like a lot of work and a very slim margin for profit. Give it a swerve.
ive genuine just bought a BMW Series 3 so having that BMW spares shop in my contacts is pretty handy!
I agree with your comments, at the end of the day you are a business and not a charity. Whilst it would be nice to see you working on it, the decision is yours and yours only.
Believe BMW still do that colour it's that popular. Very collectable now. Sure Chris n you can work your magic as long as there is £ in it.
Buy it Rob, it is worth bringing back to life!
Over here in states for sale 157k miles $10,000 USD. Knowing the issues with old BMW’s I’d say thanks and walk.
Iv got one of these in Dakar Yellow, had it 10 years now. I think the price is a little steep with no ticket on it. If you do buy it and wanna do a shoot with a Yellow one I’m not far from Ashford.
Margins on the beemer are tight as is. Seems a bit pricey given its an mot failure. Love that the more complicated items were not marked as "done"
I’d not touch that with a 10ft barge pole
Yeah for 7.5 not a chance
this is one of those cars where head must rule the heart .
Back in the day these cars was the cars to have and looking at it it brought back so much memories of 90s first car etc but as it is to make money Rob I would walk away unless you can get it cheaper it could become a money pit if is one of them cars to keep forever then it is fine although a bit cheaper as you can spend time on it without a massive cost which you may be chasing to get a profit
Cold start was lovely!😎
I think that would be really tight to get a good profit. Also there's bound to be a few unknown issues that will crop up. A lot of pipework underneath looks very dodgy as well. A lovely looker but too pricey if you ask me.
I wish you were around back in 2009 when i wrecked my 1995 M3 as i literally smashed it sideways into a lamp post thats what happens when a 19 year old buys an M3 lol , the car i reckon was salvageable so whoever at the scrap yard saw it must have saved it , i hope.
Rob, I think it looks like its had a core support panel as it been cleared, I had one of these from new and the core support are only in base-coat
My big concern would be the amount of time the oil pressure warning light took to go out when you started it. The engine may sound OK, and it could just be a dodgy oil pressure sensor, but, as memory goes, the M3 Evo did, in period, have some pretty major issues with the oil system in the engine that led to a lot of cars having engines replaced under warranty or with substantial goodwill contributions from BMW. If this car never had that work done then the engine could be in trouble, and fixing it is neither going to be easy or cheap, especially with engine parts for these being pretty hard to find now. Something else to look out for is the gearbox as that 6-speed unit wasn't really up to the power and torque of the Evo engine, so gearbox issues are pretty common and, unlike when Wheeler Dealers did theirs, finding replacements is really not easy now, meaning that an expensive professional rebuild may be the only option...
My feeling would be to leave this one well alone, while the price is tempting, it's a '90s BMW so you're bound to run into other issues which can easily eat up a lot more money than you expect and leave you not earning anything at the other end, or, maybe, even losing money as it's only really cars with cast iron histories that make top money. Leave this one to an enthusiast with plenty of time and money to spend on it. Plus, another factor is that it's a soft top and, well, it's August now, there's not much summer left here and chop tops are always much easier to send up the road while the sun's out. If the project overruns and the sun has gone back into hiding then you could find yourself looking at the car until April or May next year when it turns up again...
Yeah another concern here at how long the oil light took to go out. Think it was Vanos it was called. Moved the cam about for variable timing or so 👍
Looking at the car and the MOT failure sheet, that car has been seriously neglected for several years; the signs are not good!
I was looking at 5he video. That light is a oil level sensor light. The oil pressure light is above rev counter and it goes out very quick so I don’t think there is any issues with engine. But I do agree it’s a bit expensive for the condition I’d of thought it’s closer to £6k you have a mountain of work on it
My M3 does this when left a while, has done since I got it 10 years ago, and never had any mechanical problems
@@kenfarrell6911 That makes sense, then, BMW oil level sensors aren't renowned for being the most reliable or robust...
Massive bmw fan love to see it done you know what your doing
It’s a tight one at 7.5k I reckon you’d be able to get it sweet for under 10k and these things are going up in price massively should be able to get 12/13 for it easy.. I’ve seen ones with more miles going for 15. another few years will be 20 grand... also that oil light flashing was only to warn you that it’s due a service.. nothing to worry about
Id avoid that one . 👍
Well done spotting that seat, I would’ve missed that I think.
I think that seat will be the last of his worries.
I had a techno violet saloon evo. It was awesome. Wish I’d never got rid.
Great car & beautiful colour. I had a steel blue 328i Coupe M Sport & it is easily the best car I’ve ever owned. I think you’d get a lot of people wanting to see it on your channel & I recon you’d make a killing once you go to sell it, especially in Estrol Blue ❤️❤️
What a beautiful car - be careful with the repair costs though :)
I wouldn't waste you're time on it . Being honest. It's expensive to fix experience to run . The E36 m3 coupe are becoming rare and collectable . Not a soft top
Its just a matter of time before the soft tops become rare and to me this one is in nice shape to be 23 years old.
Yes coupes are where the money is cabriolets just never have been desirable just look at e46 soft top and hard top price differences.
Give this one a Miss Rob , Wait for something else to come up, Market isn't that strong for them and with all the work needed
Had many a e36 in my youth, never an m3. This will be a brill series, 🤞🏻 you buy it 😍
I had a silver one same year fantastic car but mine rusted around rear crossmember but what a drive 👍
Went to that BMW breakers a few years ago for some M Tech rear springs. When I went to collect them I literally couldn`t believe my eyes.............Wouldn`t surprise me if BMW themselves buy parts from them.... they`ve got everything ! 😅 😅 😅
That flashing oil light is a big concern, check that out if you can before buying.
I like it these and are gaining value pretty fast too with this being pretty original still its a good candidate for a light restoration
Estoril blue definitely one of the best colours to sell. I would offer no more than 5.5 k and just walk away. He who dares Rodders!!!!!
Risky to buy, a can of worms, but great content Rob !!!!!
This was nothing but great content on showing us WHAT NOT TO BUY!!
You and Chris could turn that around in a few weeks and i would love to see that roof done
Rob your cars are always top notch, I'm sure you'll get near the top estimate price once you have done your magic on it. So it will turn out a decent profit you I'm sure. Keep up the great work.
That is great finally a bmw breakers not miles away i'll go to that breakers i need a roof lining and door seals off that coupe you was in if it has any
Have you checked that both vanos valves are still working. If not it can be expensive and also sucks a lot of power too
Notification received - straight to the video 😁😁👍
Missed there being a Monday upload so was re watching your old videos 😁
I do like these cars Rob, you know what you're doing anyways. Do what you feels the best thing to do
I often 7 grand think then would make better deal for you and Chris we love to see nice car like that back on road nice 4 someone this summer thank you both for doing these videos
Lovely car Rob, the numbers are very tight on this one unless you have someone on it plus we haven't got that much summer left this year and convertibles take a bit of a nosedive for the colder months so definitely sleep on it unless you can flip it as is for some wages👍
Think I’d give this one a miss Rob, they tend to have a lot of hidden gremlins that can be pricey as I’m sure your aware.
This is a beautiful looking car, I do very much like the colour, it’s a gorgeous shade of blue.
Rob do you know a spares place like that for Toyota? I'm trying to keep my 20 year old Celica on the road on a budget and a Toyota spares place like that BMW one would be a gold mine for me.
Rob,i remember this place from the last time you were there,thanks for doing another walk round 😊👍
Rob, I think you could make some money but there is a fair bit of risk particularly with the engine if it needs work. If the auctions aren't working out, that may tempt you but this is more risk than you normally have to take.
Margins definitely sound a bit tight there don’t they, perhaps a cheeky bid before walking away is in order
Whilst it is a lovely motor Rob, I've got to be honest and agree with others that the asking price is a touch too high, given the work to get it into tiptop condition. I can't see this making you enough profit to be worth the effort, however it would make for great video content. You and Chris know what to do and I'm sure you'll make the right decision one way or another. Cheers Mike
7.5k seems abit much 5k/6k maybe as it WILL get expensive...but should be good content..👍👍👍
Same, thats a 4-6k car. Been stood too long. That is a huge bill waiting to happen
@@stewills9711 how are people finding e36 m3s for that amount of cash? Lol
@@DamonBMW ....exactly. They're £10,000 minimum these days
@@Sum_Ting_Wong yeah for a shit box haha
Evening Rob , I hope you are ok mate , I’ve had a couple of M3s in the past and one thing I listen out for on cold start up is the Vanoss gears rattling for a few seconds on start up , and I noticed that one did , mine cost £1500 to have that sorted on my old e46 that was 10 years ago now
I’m going to give it a miss 👍
My dad's friend had one the same but a 3 series not a M3 and had roof problems and had to have new cables and motors
It does need a fair bit doing to it but it's still a great car ,with the contacts you have and you
And chris,s know how,I'm sure you can get that car proper sorted !👍😀
I had one back along, in techno violet with the same option blue roof, which as a bit of a mare, the roof locking motor where it clips to the windscreen, the worm gear threads were shot, got very good at dropping the other roof motor in the boot and resetting the roof, the car turned out to be a money pit, shame as it looked fantastic.
The oil light is the level sensor in the bottom of the sump. Common problem, about £80-100 for it I think.
Love the car, but expensive and maybe not for you both. For the right price there will be a profit. Always great content. Thanks
Hi Rob,this BMW is a nice looking motor,if you had the car it would fetch some money when moving it on.but for the work needed it's a bit pricey.
What about putting a boot spoiler on that will cover the paint scratches on the boot lid maybe
I think it would be another interesting project Yes, and there's a But... its very costly, there is a lot of money required to repair it,
You guys make great videos doing this stuff, the money you fork out for that might be better used on possibly two other or more new projects, Which I'm sure will be equally as good content.
You guys know what your doing, You will come to the decision that feels right for you 👍🙂
I have given this a thumbs up Rob, but can't comment because I don't no enough about BMW
My dad had a couple of these when they first come out, the estoril blue was the one to have for sure, pretty sure those seats aren’t the right ones for the evo, the evo ones were slightly winged and Named “Vader” but could have been an age revision thing.. I had an e36 328 cab and those seats look identical to the ones in this vid. I’d find out if the Vanos unit has been serviced too Rob, that was always the most expensive part of the service and people would swerve it , without a correctly running serviced vanos the Car isn’t worth beans . Could be a Nail mate , enjoyable vid as always mate 👍🏼