Datsun 280z Rusted Rear Quarter Replacement
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2020
- We rip out the old rusted rear quarter panels and install our new inner and out body panels and shoot 2 coats of epoxy primer and seal all of the body seams with seam sealer.
Tools used in this video
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Brilliant tutorial mate! 👍🏼
Thanks!
Awesome skills - great video
How has this video only got 2k views? Really great stuff mate! Restoring a 240z atm
The almighty algorithm works in mysterious ways, thanks for watching!
this video has helped me so much . Im doing a 1976 280z , I have to do the floor pans and floor rails and the quarter panels Thanks a bunch keep the videos coming
Thanks for watching! Helping people learn has been my goal all along with these videos
Hi just wanted to say your videos are great! I been watching for awhile and I love how detailed you are in explaining your process and the products you use. Thank you, your efforts haven’t gone unnoticed.
Thank you so much! I try to give enough info so the casual garage builder can gain the confidence in their own abilities and realize they too can build something awesome! Glad you enjoy the vids!
You do good work man. Inspirational. I picked up a 1975 280z with the exact same issues floor pans, frame rails, etc. Getting all the info collected before I start. Just subscribed also.
Pretty much every first gen Z is going to have floor and rail issues. Then you get into the ones with battery tray, firewall, hatch, and rocker panel rust. Hopefully you enjoy the stuff I put out, and congrats on your purchase, don't give up! Thanks for Subscribing!
Awesome work
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for video ( Awesome work )
Thanks for watching!
Guys stumbled on this video, loved it, just bought 1977 Fairlady Z so just what I’ll have to get done..looking forward to wading thru vids 👍
Thanks for watching and subscribing! We got more content on the way! If you have any questions during the build please don't hesitate to ask and I'll try and help any way I can.
Love this series man, so glad I found them. I'm getting ready to start on a '76 that's been sitting in my uncle's box trailer for a couple decades!
Regarding shooting epoxy primer, I like that gun and paint hopper. Do you recommend having a moisture mitigation in the airline for EP? Not planning to do show room finish paint, but don't want to insert moisture in my EP either. What's your setup?
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Watch that whole playlist if yoi want to know more about my air system and how I remove all the moisture from my lines to prevent any issues when it comes to spraying.
As always links are in the description below if you want to buy the same stuff im using.
Thanks for your support!!!
So you but welded the panels together but what do you do about preventing rust on the backside of the seam considering flash rusting happens it's going to start rusting again day one...again.
The inside got coated with epoxy primer as well
I would just consequently have burnt holes straight trough those cavitated old panels with my setup. What gas, wire type and gauge do you use ?
Btw; Thanks for leaving out putting in that annoying music on this one :D It makes your channel much better
75/25 gas, 0.023 solid core wire. The metal is between 16ga for the rails and floor replacement and 18-20 gauge on the body panel work
@@hcr-motorworks I just recieved my full 0,6mm setup Fronius order and picked up a pair of bobbins of solid steels on my way. 350 $ shorter and a machine re-adjustment later, I picked up a hopeless, decommisioned landmower shell from my scrap pile with more thick rain wet rust and holes than metal in it. I could actually make useable welds to it without burning holes! Straight on, no prep, no shitz given, just to see. Conclusion; Rust is no longer a crucial incendiary obstacle ! :D
What really was interesting was how much juice and feed I could squeeze into that thin little wire before unfortunate things started to occur to my various chosen work pieces yet still making pretty usable welds. That ought to tribute ammensly to welding speed, reducing heat exposure time at MIG-works in general. My welding thin, rusty old crap skills just exelled 3-4 levels, just like that :D Thanks to you :)
@@ogreunderbridge5204 AWESOME! Love seeing people get out there and take on new challenges! Good job!
Great question, thanks for asking and for the response! Any guidance on a flux core setup? Feed rate/voltage?
@@fultronjackson do not use flux core, solid core and gas only for these panels!
Awesome video, i too and restoring a datsun, tho mine is a 280zx, i was wondering if you can refer me to a place whee i can find sheet metal such as floor pans and rocker panels, Thank you!
Zcardepot and zcarsource both say they have some repair panels for the 280zx's but I've never personally purchased panels from them so i couldn't say for sure.
Hopefully someone else Chimes in and give you a good lead on some!
@@hcr-motorworks Thanks for getting back to me, I have checked out zcardepot, but not zcarsource, so I'll check them out, also In your video I noticed that you were doing a sort of stop/go pulse method with the wire fed welder, Ive had luck doing that metal that was intact but not so much on areas near rust, and recommendations on how to go about welding near rust
@@mauristrofimov3709 Best advice I can give is to try and get to clean metal with a wire wheel or sanding disc and start trying to weld from there. When I try to fill a hole I quickly hit the trigger on the mig, just long enough to deposit a little molten ball on the metal, I work my way around the circumference of the hole until I've got dozens of little balls that are barely sticking to the metal being repaired and then once there's enough there to nearly fill the hole I make a longer trigger pull on the mig just long enough to melt everything together. No idea if its the right way to do it, but it's worked for me for years so I kept the technique. the quicker your on and off the trigger the better. Heat it up too much during the process and you'll blow through the hole and have to start over again usually with a bigger hole than you started with haha
@@hcr-motorworks Alright thank you I'll try that, thanks for the help!
QQ I noticed your using a MIG wire, any thoughts on TIG vs MIG?
I actually have a few mig and tig machines now and when the process requires it I use TIG for all my stainless and aluminum work. Most of the time, many guys don't start out with a tig machine though or possess the skills necessary to use one so any chance I get to weld some plain ole sheet metal I break out the MIG. It does take some more care to not warp thin parts but for the average joe its something they can understand and its usually in most garages arsenals of available tools, or at a minimum its on the list to obtain a mig machine before a tig.
Do you know what exact part number of DeVilbiss you are using? I have the same Harbor Freight HVLP. Do you need any special adapter for it?
Are you looking for the adapter for the Dekups system?
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And I know I said in the video the HF one works fine, but if your planning on doing the whole car at some point I HIGHLY recommend upgrading to the Tekna Prolite. Its worlds above the HF one and doesn't break down when cleaning using solvents like the HF one does after just a few uses.
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@@hcr-motorworks Great information! Thank you so much!
@@hcr-motorworks that Tekna is kind of expensive... is there anything you may recommend in the 200-400$ price range? I am planning to paint the whole car... will HF be really that bad? Considering I'm painting first time... ughh...
What about all the pitting on valance? Bondo?
All those spots are previous rust and corrosion spots. It erodes the surface and creates pitting. Once we cleaned up all the rust we primed it and saved it from further rusting. All we have to do now is prep to skim coat with filler and sand it down to smooth out all the imperfections
HCR - Motor Works isnt it likely that it would come back? My datsun rear is much like yours btw subbed!
@@James_z32 thanks for the sub!
We treated the previous rust areas with ospho to neutralize the rust, once its neutralized you can prep and prime as normal and it prevents any more oxidation and rusting again. Skim coat of filler and some sanding will have it smoothed out and perfect once again. Good luck with your project!
what gauge sheet metal did you make the inners from ?
I think It was either 18 or 20 guage cold rolled steel.