I live in Canada, and lots of American trains come through the crossing I live near... so I definitely hear the resonance of the wonderful K5HL quite often 👍💯
The 1st Gen K5HL is my favorite along with that similar sounding 2nd Gen K5H! CSX has been using those K5H's as well! One Tier 4 uses one, even one of them has the old K5HL. The Narrow Font K5HL with a 2PC 1L has a beautiful deep sound, but that 2nd Gen K5H is lovely!
2 new BNSF GEVOs came with a hybrid K5HLA (1L, 1, 2, 3, 4a), which are BNSF 3284 and BNSF 3671. On the other hand, 2 brand new T4 GEVOs did the same thing but had 3a and 4a on it. BNSF 3673 and 3674 has that horn!
As a musician I really appreciate your harmonic analysis of the horns, saying a flat D# sounds better than saying a flat Eb. I also loved the sound of the diminished 7th horn. From a musicians standpoint we would label that as C Eb Gb A……..but technically that is wrong too because an A is the sixth degree of a C major scale but I’ve never heard a musician label a C dim7 chord as C Eb Gb Bbb (B double flat since B is the seventh degree of the C major scale). Nice vid, really enjoyed it, that must have taken a long time to research!
Thanks for using my Special clips (where else would you find the clips and footage anywhere else LUL) also That trail fail and zee 6930 curse shall be brokenth.
@@unity3596 RS3L Would foul overtime cause of the air compresser is only met for 3,2,1 3000 Series (Im not for sure about 1st gen K5HL's) but RS3L Would foul due to the air compresser so it would serve no point, it'd be cool on a OCS once a while
I think your notation of these k horns (like 2 piece 1L narrow font k5hl) make more sense than just 1st gen k5hl because technically speaking, K horns don’t have generations, they just have different castings, and I didn’t know about this until recently, and before then, I usually named them by their eras (like 2000 era k5hl, pre-2012era k5hl, late 2010 era k5hl)
A very good and informative video. I think the raised letter K5HL has single-handedly ruined the state of modern train horns in North America, but I guess there's at least some variety around if you dig enough. Unfortunately, the alternative is usually the equally as depressing raised letter K5LA, but still, at least it's variety of some kind. My age and yearning for the old times is showing. Despite all this, I quite like the original K5HL, as well as the K5HLA and K5HLB. I could handle those if they had the level of monopoly that the current K5HL has. Great video, and I second the idea of making more videos like this of other horns.
I'm not sure if this counts as a K5HL but what about the horn NS 8105 ( interstate ) heritage unit. Great video do you think you can do more videos like this ( example like K5LLA )
33:2033:3533:47 this one has a 1L 1 2 3 #4 (Flat) 39:46 something tells me that this might be a 2nd gen K5HA or a K3HA or something like that but CN 2284 was a train with this horn. Don't Forget CN 3128 BNSF 5720 UP 2521 UP 2590 Now has a Hybrid K5HLA 40:28 Now that's a Cluster Horn from BNSF 7879 Why did they do this?!?! Also I think this one is a 3rd Gen K3HLA
1:10 Narrow Font K5H’s 3:29 Narrow Font K5HL’s 6:4817:23 Wide Font K5HL’s 10:1832:46 Raised Letter K5HL’s 13:55 Narrow Font K5HLB’s 19:12 Hybrid Raised Letter K5HL’s 23:52 Raised Letter K5HLB’s 34:2337:26 GE Cast K5HL’s 38:53 Ready horns
The GE horns, the #2 bell is a little sharp, around 374 hz. The #3 bell is flat, not sharp like you said. It is around 465 hz. GE K5HLs 262, 308, 374, 465,507
I actually think I’ve heard a narrow font K5H on a Union Pacific AC45CCTE before. Although I’m not sure if it was a sick narrow font K5HL. Anyways, the unit I’m taking about is UP 7685, and o caught her back in December of 2021.
one of my favorite on Union Pacific horn is K5hl K3LA K5LLA K3HA K5HLA K3l my favorite is Ac44cw SD70AH SD70ace Sd70m Ac45CCTE SD70ace-t4 Union Pacific
I didn't. I just looked them up and both seem to be off. 982 was a normal K5HL that had it's #2 go missing, and it seems they put a 3A in there instead of a #3, so now it's a 1L 1 3a 3 and 4 combo. 7491 seems to be a Raised Letter K5HL, but with a 2 Piece 1L instead of a 1L. In both cases, they weren't originally equipped with them. There might be more out there too that I didn't know about.
26:52. That K5HLB sounds amazing. Reminds me very much of some that I hear in my city.
I live in Canada, and lots of American trains come through the crossing I live near... so I definitely hear the resonance of the wonderful K5HL quite often 👍💯
To be honest the older K5HL’s sound way more better
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Christian Clayton ?
100%
I 100% agree. Those were my favorite horns as a kid because they were the most fun to imitate.
agreed the 1st and 2nd gen are my favorite.
K5HLs are absolutely my all time favorite horns.
The 1st Gen K5HL is my favorite along with that similar sounding 2nd Gen K5H! CSX has been using those K5H's as well! One Tier 4 uses one, even one of them has the old K5HL. The Narrow Font K5HL with a 2PC 1L has a beautiful deep sound, but that 2nd Gen K5H is lovely!
39:25 I for some reason really like this modification of the K5HL. I ain't got perfect pitch, but it reminds me of Amtrak's P01235 they used to have.
11:34 so weird hearing a 3rd gen K5HL and a E bell RR crossing on a 90s quality video lol.
2 new BNSF GEVOs came with a hybrid K5HLA (1L, 1, 2, 3, 4a), which are BNSF 3284 and BNSF 3671. On the other hand, 2 brand new T4 GEVOs did the same thing but had 3a and 4a on it. BNSF 3673 and 3674 has that horn!
Thanks for making this video on the K5HL! Now, I know all the variations of this horn.
The K5HLA is, by far, my favorite iteration of the RL K5HL.
So dis guy liked the k5hl hybrid
K5hla horns sounds like a K5LLA horn
As a musician I really appreciate your harmonic analysis of the horns, saying a flat D# sounds better than saying a flat Eb. I also loved the sound of the diminished 7th horn. From a musicians standpoint we would label that as C Eb Gb A……..but technically that is wrong too because an A is the sixth degree of a C major scale but I’ve never heard a musician label a C dim7 chord as C Eb Gb Bbb (B double flat since B is the seventh degree of the C major scale). Nice vid, really enjoyed it, that must have taken a long time to research!
Thank you for making this video of the K5HLs! I've been comparing all the variations to the K5HLs I've caught lol.
Thanks for using my Special clips (where else would you find the clips and footage anywhere else LUL) also That trail fail and zee 6930 curse shall be brokenth.
Gotta love them k5h and k5hl
NS should put a raised letter K5HLB on its Conrail heritage unit.
Yeah Idk about ya but K5HLBs sound like a RS3L to me
@@unity3596 RS3L Would foul overtime cause of the air compresser is only met for 3,2,1 3000 Series (Im not for sure about 1st gen K5HL's) but RS3L Would foul due to the air compresser so it would serve no point, it'd be cool on a OCS once a while
I think a Leslie would do it justice, or one of those experimental hybrid K5HL’s that MP made that exactly mimic an RS5T
RL K5HLB is actually the exact same chord as a Leslie S5T/RS5T.
i know this may sound controversial, but my favorite variant is the (still produced) raised letter K5HL.
9.Oct.2022
40:01 Remember this. UP 2704 surprisingly went by me back in February, 2023, and still has that horn.
And the 1PC K5HL at 8:14 and 8:34 had a great dopplar affect
30:56 That person in the car is a law breaker.
And not too bright!
Wow, the narrow-font K5HLB sounds amazing! I wish more GEVOs had them!
Don't Talk To Me You Know What You Did
I LOVE LOVE the 3rd gen horns…!!
6:15 sounded so good
My favorite 1st gen K5HL
Ngl that last horn is awesome the K5HA on 40:46
You should make more videos on the histories of different locomotive horns.
Great Job on this! If I had to choose a favorite, I would have to choose the K5HLA, especially the ones that CSX 969 and NS 8101 have.
Correction, there were not K5Hs on gevos from the factory, they were early K5HLs, narrow fonts.
UP 2590 Also has a K5HLA
I think your notation of these k horns (like 2 piece 1L narrow font k5hl) make more sense than just 1st gen k5hl because technically speaking, K horns don’t have generations, they just have different castings, and I didn’t know about this until recently, and before then, I usually named them by their eras (like 2000 era k5hl, pre-2012era k5hl, late 2010 era k5hl)
Mine as well. Love the third gen horns.
K5HLA Definetly my favorite
We need a 2024 update
In 40:27 it had a K3LA horn which was odd for a five chime manifold. And it was included that NS 8105 had a K5HLA with a 3A in place of 4
Danny Vasquez Um, didn’t Tommy show what bells it has? Narrow Font #1, Raised Letter #2, Narrow Font #2 and 2 4As.
A very good and informative video. I think the raised letter K5HL has single-handedly ruined the state of modern train horns in North America, but I guess there's at least some variety around if you dig enough. Unfortunately, the alternative is usually the equally as depressing raised letter K5LA, but still, at least it's variety of some kind. My age and yearning for the old times is showing. Despite all this, I quite like the original K5HL, as well as the K5HLA and K5HLB. I could handle those if they had the level of monopoly that the current K5HL has.
Great video, and I second the idea of making more videos like this of other horns.
I actually caught BNSF #5459 a few weeks ago; I uploaded a short of it. That horn sounds so weird, yet so beautiful!
I saw 8055 in Texas and Washington 8055 was seen in Texas 2018 and Washington 2020. Which was June 24.
Great video! the newer horns alright, but they can’t top the kings, the first gen 2005 era models, they’re just beautiful, lol.
GREAT VID!! THANKS
I'm not sure if this counts as a K5HL but what about the horn NS 8105 ( interstate ) heritage unit. Great video do you think you can do more videos like this ( example like K5LLA )
33:20 33:35 33:47 this one has a 1L 1 2 3 #4 (Flat)
39:46 something tells me that this might be a 2nd gen K5HA or a K3HA or something like that but CN 2284 was a train with this horn.
Don't Forget
CN 3128
BNSF 5720
UP 2521
UP 2590
Now has a Hybrid K5HLA
40:28
Now that's a Cluster Horn from BNSF 7879
Why did they do this?!?!
Also I think this one is a 3rd Gen K3HLA
So beautiful train horn
I Like The 1st Gen K5HL's Because Their Doppler Effects are like the beauties Especially On The NS GEVO's
I personally love the 2nd Gen K5HL, too. I love how it has the rasp and how the notes are higher. Sounds so cool.
The K5HLB will sound like an Leslie S-5T and a P5A OC.
The GE5HLR2 is my favorite non-A/B K5HL
It’s got a nice tune to it. Too bad you can’t hear them on Amtrak/commuter rail trains.
To be honest, the old k5hls sound a bit like a CB&Q 5 chime if it was a horn.
Less then 10 minutes later...
WHAT??? ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME???
1:10 Narrow Font K5H’s
3:29 Narrow Font K5HL’s
6:48 17:23 Wide Font K5HL’s
10:18 32:46 Raised Letter K5HL’s
13:55 Narrow Font K5HLB’s
19:12 Hybrid Raised Letter K5HL’s
23:52 Raised Letter K5HLB’s
34:23 37:26 GE Cast K5HL’s
38:53 Ready horns
K5HLB is literally one note away from being a s5t
For the second generation K5HL, you should’ve done the High Hood leading CN unit in Rantoul.
Dont forget the K5HLL!
GE K5HLs are no longer in production iirc as nathan sued them over it cuz of the naming.
The GE horns, the #2 bell is a little sharp, around 374 hz. The #3 bell is flat, not sharp like you said. It is around 465 hz. GE K5HLs 262, 308, 374, 465,507
I actually think I’ve heard a narrow font K5H on a Union Pacific AC45CCTE before. Although I’m not sure if it was a sick narrow font K5HL. Anyways, the unit I’m taking about is UP 7685, and o caught her back in December of 2021.
Love the 1st gen K5HL, much sweeter and more melodic.
this is a great video, you should do this for other horns
Have you done any videos regarding K5LLAs?
KCS De Mexico have early K5HLS Horns in the ES44AC
one of my favorite on Union Pacific horn is K5hl K3LA K5LLA K3HA K5HLA K3l my favorite is Ac44cw SD70AH SD70ace Sd70m Ac45CCTE SD70ace-t4 Union Pacific
Why didnt you show any about the 1pc K5HLB?
Any reason why CSX 3rd Gen K5HL's sound different? They sound lower pitched.
BNSF 5850 had the First Gen K5HL
The 3rd K5HL BNSF 8097 had that as well
You forgot to talk about the NF 2 piece and 1 piece 1L K5HLA ! CSX 5407 has one and many other Gevos and CW44AC’s and CW44AH’s
13:30, what kind of crossing bell is that? Never heard it before.
RRS (not WRRS) mechanical bell. That one was sadly replaced in 2014.
So, why are 4 bells facing backwards?
An interesting fact, BNSF 7608 and 5459 actually swapped horns, so 7608 has 5459's K3 now.
No, 7608s horn was saved by a horn collector. It got replaced in 2012 and 5459 didn't get its K5HLB until 2017 or 2018.
Wuh... I thought that the horns were swapped. My bad
I’m the owner of one of the early narrow font K5H’s
Oh so the CSX 700-900s series gevos have the 2nd gen k5hl?
ngl but the K5HLA is like a baby K5LLA
K5HL
Tommy just to let you know if you know already that's Ok
BNSF 5720
UP 2521
UP 2590
CN 3128
Now has a Hybrid K5HLA
Believe me I have seen them
Ik Csx had K5HL in the 2000s when Csx was Painted over to Blue and Gold in the pass
At 8:21, what NS engine is that?
I'm also a fan of the 2nd gen k5hl horn too.
I heard a 1st gen 2nd gen and 3rd gen even a k5hla!
@@IsupportVehicles999 So have I!
14:49 it's sad really That this unit was once a Rare gem has now gone turncoat Being a one number off Troll #Traitor
Jack Carson's Railroad Videos Wait what?
@@railsofchicagoandbeyond8832 8706 has a RL K5HLB and CP 8705 lost her NF 2PC 1L K5HLB
@@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos This was back when I was an idiot lmao. Didn’t know as much as I do now.
That sounds like an K5HLL
You forgot Australia. :(
We all can agree that the 2gen just just…
Just what
@@TommyBNSF the best
I like the 1PC K5HL’s
26:00 sounds a step lower than a Nathan m3
Ns 7512 1st gen K5HL horn
Bnsf 5725 1st gen K5HL horn
15:42 is that csxt 5288
3rd Gen sounds way better ngl. K5HLB sounds like an RS5T
K5HLA sounds like K5LLA
F for 7606.
I thought Norfolk southern had K5LA horns which they do
30:55 a little bit from 30:56
What?
2nd gen k5hl gang
You know CSX 982 and UP 7491 also have K5HLAs right?
I didn't. I just looked them up and both seem to be off. 982 was a normal K5HL that had it's #2 go missing, and it seems they put a 3A in there instead of a #3, so now it's a 1L 1 3a 3 and 4 combo. 7491 seems to be a Raised Letter K5HL, but with a 2 Piece 1L instead of a 1L.
In both cases, they weren't originally equipped with them. There might be more out there too that I didn't know about.
I think NS 8105 has one
K 👏 series 👏 horns 👏 don't 👏 have 👏 generashunnnzzz
30:57 illegal
life with aircrafts and trains Why is it illegal to use a good buddy of his clip?
@@railsofchicagoandbeyond8832 I said that because that car should have waited
life with aircrafts and trains Ooooooh. Yeah. Alright.
The First ES44AC built has a raised letter K5HL.
And that would be what ES44AC??
@@AbelG8781 BNSF 5817
@@AbelG8781 UP 5695 is the first ES44AC ever built.
@@RFE812 no wonder it looks like an AC4400. That period in time was awkward during transitions
This is a great video! I've got a ton of very in depth horn content on my channel if you ever want to check it out!
Worst horn yet...
GE got sued by airchime. They no longer produce them
BNSF ES44DC#7661
Bnsf 5726 1st gen K5HL horn
Ns 7511 1st gen K5HL horn