I’m watching this with a heavily bandaged finger after the knife slipped out of the V shaped sharpener and took a lovely slice out of my pointer finger, thanks for reminding me I’m the idiot 🤣
Oh dear! I don't use the pull through section much. The safest way is to hold the knife with it's spine on a flat surface and the blade up wards. Then pull the"v" sharpener along the blade...
The video is welcomed and my comment is in no way a criticism, however, the pen size sharpener is mainly for camping, travelling and keeping your SAK sharpened whilst away from home,the groove down the centre can be used for sharpening fish hooks.Worth mentioning that if you wear a leather belt you can use the inside of it as a strop by hanging the buckle on a branch,you can use a little solid soap making it more effective. .A useful video.
Thanks! I agree entirely about this being a field sharpener. I tend to use it at home as well for my most used pocket knives because it is easier to get out and use, rather than a more complicated sharpening system that I have. And I am stropping a lot more now. Item instead of sharpening. I'll have a video coming up on that in a couple of weeks
i do agree. The size and shape makes it ideal for taking it with you. I bought one also roughly a year ago, and it lives in my backpack for work. As i dislike utility blades (no matter the normal ones or the ones to break off) i prefer using resharpenable blades for cutting things. And it's nice to have something with you in remote areas which can bring back the Leatherman i have in the backpack too, the Victorinox in my pocket, or the cable knife in my work toolbox. I was considering the Fällkniven DC3 or 4 as it also has a diamond side that would make it faster when the blade is really dull. But i do have more than one cutting implement with me and the Victorinox is taking up less space/is more convenient to store in my case. And is easily enough until now to keep them sharp. What i also did was put stropping compound onto a flat and smooth piece of cardboard. Doesn't take up much space either, and with a flat surface underneath this works great for stropping the blade. Doesn't need to be leather. I don't wear leather belts for over 10 years now. I moved tometal free belts as i do have to occasionally go through airport security for work. And while in those instances i am allowed to take tools, even knives with me, it's less of a hassle if i don't need to remove my belt. So no belt stropping for me.
I love this thing, so much that I bought two of them. (I'm forever misplacing things.) I'm disabled, and my hands are pretty much shot from both osteo and rheumatoid arthritides. This I can use without pain or difficulty. And use it I do. My Huntsman SAK is my go-to for help with my ADLs, so keeping it sharp is a must. The SAK and the sharpener are critical to maintaining my independence. Gotta love Victorinox.
I use a rubber or for our American friends an eraser to remove the grit from the ceramic rod .Great bit of kit had mine for years still going strong God bless you and your family. Lee
You know what works great to clean ceramic sharpeners? A scotch bright pad, (the green plastic wool looking scouring pads) along with Barkeepers friend cleanser/scouring powder. Ajax will also work, but BF is better. Give that a try. It makes them like new.
I have a few of these, they are great for honing an edge, not so much for restoring one. The pull through sharpener can put a reasonable edge on a dull razor blade. (The sort you use as scrapers).
@@nigelp5352 Hi. Agreed. I mainly use mine to resharpen dull utility knife blades and Victorinox SAK blades used around the house. I have some diamond stones if I need to restore an edge that has taken some damage.
@@MB_EDC it's not bad, but you have to take your time on each serration. I use the knife when beach cleaning, often cutting rope and fishing net. They quite often have sand and grit in them so the blade dulls quite quickly, but a couple of minutes with this sharpener and I'm good to go. I'm no expert, and I'm sure half the time my angle isn't great, but it still cuts well!
Much more acute angles will give you a longer holding edge on softer steels. I think it was Pete from Cedric and Ada outdoors that did fairly extensive testing and landed something between 15 and 17 degrees being the difference between 30 cuts and 75 cuts on sisal rope.
It’s a trade off of strength vs sharpness and edge holding. A 15 degree edge will be very sharp and stay sharp for a while, but it will chip and roll easier. It depends on what you plan on cutting, if it’s just rope, the chances of rolling or chipping are slim. If you’re regularly hitting hard stuff or abusing it, you’ll destroy your blade easily with a 15 degree edge. I usually prefer a 20 degree because I’d rather have a dull knife and touch it up over having chips out of my edge that require a complete re-grind.
@@MB_EDC Haha, yea it’s neat stuff, then you can look into different grinds too, like micro bevels, chisel grinds and Scandinavian “v” grinds, all have advantages and disadvantages. For instance if you use a whetstone the scandi grind is literally the easiest thing in the world to sharpen, it holds its own angle perfectly.
@travispratt6327 The only problem is that so many people have different views on Sharpening. I think I’ll stick to one person maybe @OUTDOORS55 he seems to know his stuff. I have one of the Rolling Sharpeners to try out. Should be interesting…
I've bought this one recently and I love it. Previously I've been using only Lansky Spyder, but because it is made for Spyderco curved geometry specifically it does not work well for my other straight edged knives. I agree with you on pull-through part, although I have used it at least twice in a pinch when I had to bring the edge back quickly. Not gonna do that on a regular basis.
Great video! Thanks for doing a one year update on your thoughts! Looks like a great product, I have been thinking about picking one of these up! I have various sharpeners and strops that I use, but I am no expert at sharpening. I don't have a field stone for on the go. This would fill that void. In a pinch, I have actually had good results sharpening knives using the bottom of a ceramic coffee mug!
Thanks Eric. I think a few people use the bottom of a mug. I have the Falkniven DC3. Which is good. But too small. The DC4 would be better. The Victorinox is very easy to use for normal steels. I try to strop more often as well. Usually that's all I need to do...
I just stumbled across your channel!! Nicely done with the presentation!! I own one and I love it!! I use it with all of my victorinox knives 👍🏿💯❤️🇺🇸 from Washington state.
The benefit of the white ceramic that you don’t like is to hone the sharpening process after you make the edges come together. The white ceramic can be used after you cut food and clean the blade. It just takes toe burr or wire edge off the knife blade.
Thank you for a very nice review on a very good product at a reasonable price. The groove in the middle of the sharpener , is for sharpening fishhooks. All the best to you in all future endeavors.
3:55 "...sorry for the noise, it's not one of the best noises." Agreed ! That damn, so called "music" is so annoying. I came for a tutorial on sharpening ( a main part is listening to the blade / stone sound, to get it right ) Not for a sappy concertina. If i wanted to hear sad opera i'd Still be listening to my 3rd ex... ☆
Sharpeners like this are great for tuning up an edge, but not ideal for re-profiling or repairing serious chips/damage though. However, they are a great tool to keep around and I do recommend them for on the go EDC use. 👍 Thanks for sharing, take care my friend and Cheers!
You do want to raise a burr with this. A burr means you've got a proper apex. Once you have it, a few light alternating strokes will minimise it, then a good strop will get rid of it completely and you're left with a sharp, durable edge.
@@MB_EDC As long as you're consistent, you just keep going until you can feel that burr when you slide your finger over the edge (AWAY from the cutting direction, in case anyone needs to be reminded...). It will feel rough from one side (where the burr is) and smooth from the other (where you last ground against the stone). That's how you know it's there. If it doesn't readily alternate when you swap sharpening sides, then you need to work on being more consistent with your angle. In learning how to do this, I found that investing 10 quid or so into a little portable microscope (60-100x, came with specimens to look at as well) made a lot of difference. You can actually see the burr, the grinding marks, even the relative flatness of the surface (if you orient your light source just right). A proper eye opener. I got one with a built-in light (off to the side). If I have the light on the side of the spine rather than the edge, it makes the burr light right up, no matter how small. Then you can also see the effect of going to a finer stone, what those V-notch things do (very bad things!) and whether stropping actually did anything (it should polish up the surface quite nicely. "SHOULD"... 😅).
@@foureight84 It works really well on my Victorinox SAKs - which are my normal carry. I have a video comparing it to the Falkninven DC3 and another planned for a couple of the small Worksharp sharpeners.
Personally I’m not a fan of pull through sharpeners as they tend to remove a lot of metal and leave grooves in the metal along the edge, rather than at 90 degrees to the edge. I have mostly stopped using the pull through part of this Victorinox sharpener. But it it works for you no problem. Take care brother.
@@MB_EDC Its not a pull through it is a small rectangle of I guess carbide steel that you draw along the edge of the knife or vice versa. It is so hard its supposed to never wear out. It does take a fine hand or you remove too much metal. What grit is the victorinox stone?
Apologies. I have seen them, but not used one. I think they would need a lot of practice to use correctly. Again there is a risk of removing a lot of metal to get a sharp edge. As a lot of my knife use is got fairly light work - Cardboard and string - where the blade gets dull but is not damaged, I try to use a strop to bring the sharp edge back. This gives a really sharp edge with the least amount of metal removed and should prolong the life of my knives without wearing them down too much.
I do leatherwork and I keep one of these in my toolbox for keeping my xacto blades sharp. Between this and a strop I can keep one blade for literally months now. Highly recommend it for that, but not much else.
@@MB_EDC I sometimes give brand new stanley blades a once-over. Gets the corner of the tip as sharp as the rest of the blade, which makes them much better for opening packages/etc. They cut like scalpels after that.
@@233kosta Brilliant. It's crazy that they get thrown away after a few uses when they get blunt. I resharpen mine. I have a video about it THROWING BLUNT UTILITY BLADES AWAY?? Utility blade resharpening using the Victorinox Dual Sharpener th-cam.com/video/OyZfMZj6S9Y/w-d-xo.html
@@MB_EDC I mean if you think about it, those were designed to be disposable, and for good reason - most people want to just get on with the job at hand, they don't have the time to be re-sharpening an old blade when the new one drops in and just cuts. That said, they do make excellent practice blades. For the same reason - if you ruin one, it's not like it was a super expensive bespoke knife, it's just a stanley blade. But they're still made of a hard steel (well... harder than you can get out of stainless anyway), so they're good to learn on.
It's different note with quick change blades. But with the old Stanley knives where you had to unscrew to change the blade - I could resharpen the blade quicker than changing it. Check out my video showing this....
It's always better to strop more often than sharpening your knife Stropping is edge maintenance much like touching up kitchen knives with the steel rod most block sets include Sharpening is mainly desired after the edge has become sufficiently dull and stropping does little to nothing to improve the cutting capacity. Every time you sharpen you remove steel, so it's good to keep that in mind
@@brianlash154 Agree 100% I sharpen a little less these days. In fact I recently did a video on this topic You could be DAMAGING your KNIVES!!! Sharpen Less Strop More!! th-cam.com/video/hZSen2d475Y/w-d-xo.html
Really good question! Given the price point and size of the Worksharp field sharpener. I think that the Victorinox is closer to the Worksharp pocket and micro sharpeners. Probably coming somewhere in between. Unfortunately I have not tried any of these. It does compare favourably to the Falkniven DC3 which I have. Check out my video Ultimate SHARPENING Showdown: VICTORINOX vs. FALLKNIVEN DC3 th-cam.com/video/lCuTnaaCTd0/w-d-xo.html
Victorynox also has diamond sharpener, which is even more carry friendly,, and will take care of your harder steel knives. I like that much more that this one, which I didn't use that much and gifted away.
@@grumpy_cat1337 I haven't seen the Victorinox diamond sharpener. I will check it out. My concern would be that it removed s lot of metal each time you sharpen
@@MB_EDC I don't think you should worry about that. It's not coarse, I don't know the exact grit, but if I have to guess, from my experience with diamond benchstones - it feels like 800, maybe even higher. It's enough to sharpen your knife, since it's a diamond grit, but it wouldn't remove steel aggressively.
@@MB_EDCjust a bit lower volume, if you like it to be there. That's my opinion, fwiw :-) Also, to help auto focus the camera onto the knife, which is very small. Maybe try opening your hand flat so the camera has a larger object to auto focus on. The letter the object, closer to center, the quicker the auto focus can figure it out. Hope this helps.
@@DonyMustafa you open up the scissors and lightly run each scissor blade along the stone as would a knife. The oval shaped off the stone lets you sharpen the whole length of the scissor blades. It is a little fiddly with the smaller scissors. Much easier with my Pioneer X Alox scissors..
@@MB_EDC 58-60 hrc isn't anything special. It's also not great a retaining an edge because it is soft, on the flip side it's quick to sharpen. There's a reason why 440c is found on cheap knives
@@MB_EDC These days 440C is a budget steel. It is one of the better budget steels. Its easy to sharpen and it holds an edge fairly well. And it balances hardness and toughness pretty well. But as much as I think it, like VG10, is a good solid steel that can handle most people's cutting needs, the days of it being considered a super-steel are long gone. Things like Elmax, Vanax, s90v/s120v, M390, ZDP189, Maxamet, and Rex121 have replaced it in the wowsers steel category. There is nothing wrong with that. Metallurgists have simply come up with harder, more wear resistant, and tougher steels since 440c considered a super-steel in the mid-20th century. As for the bit about it not being easy to sharpen with the Victorinox sharpener... It is all about perspective. What are you comparing 440C to? If your comparison is something like 420J2/3cr13mov/x30cr13 then 440c will definitely take longer because its 58-60HRC is a lot harder than their 52-54HRC. The same is true of the 1.4110 steel used in most Victorinox pocket knives that comes in with a HRC of around 56. If you're comparing it to one of the current crop of super-steels I mentioned or even budget steels like D2, which all have HRCs above 60 (in some cases well above 60 HRC) and which are formulated to be very wear resistant not so much.
Please people stay away from any horizontal sharpening Devices! It will ruin EVERY blade in the long run! In a pinch fine, but not as a main way of sharpening. The horizontal long scratch pattern is inferior to the vertical short scratch pattern. In terms of strenght. It will last way longer and wont damage your apex.
Do you mean the pull-through v-shaped sharpeners? Definitely not good. I rarely use that on this sharpener now. Only rarely for cheap kitchen knives. The ceramic stone is much better and with practice you can get a consistent angle.
@@MB_EDC yes the v shaped ones, maybe the rolling sharpeners too, got no eyperience in using them. ...and yeah i agree the ceramic rod is definitely usefull👍 I like the technique u Show us, never seen it like this. I never learned hand sharpening, im a cave man in that regard 😂 But what i like to use is the Worksharp precision adjust system. Even i can Manage to get a near mirror polished edge on my knifes. Can definitely recommend this System👍
I have a Chinese knock-off off the Lansky sharpening system. Which is OK - But a bit of a faff to set up. For the light sharpening I have to do mainly the Victorinox works well.
you can use the pull through for shitty knifes of friends and relatives if they ask you to sharpen them. They usually don't need shaving sharp (they cannot appreciate it, they cannot maintain it, they absolutely will get injured - all of my relatives did, when i sharpened theirs)
Fair point…but the main stone only takes a few strokes to bring an average knife back to a decent edge. Just tried out some cheap diamond stones that are working well.
@@MB_EDC true, but i seem to pity the good stone for not really appreciated knives, and tend to "save" it for ones that do represent any value (to me or f&f). And the pull trough should also be used up somehow, so this is what i figured out. But yes, if you do sharpen knives of others that are of some value, or you sit down pőlanning to enjoy the sharpening process, of course you use the good stone :)
I actually find it therapeutic to take several dull knives and sharpen them. I did this last week with 6 of our kitchen knives. Selected a film to watch as I did it and worked through them, getting them all back to super sharp… very satisfying
@MB_EDC First time on your channel. Enjoyed your video and found it informative. As a suggestion - if you are making instructional videos it is best that you do not make reference to yourself as an "idiot" (especially repeatedly as you did in your video and comments section). People want to learn from a confident instructor - not one that is self-deprecating. Looking forward to exploring your other content. Happy Trails! 🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
@paulamcclure3402 Thank you...I do try to be competent, but also want to be clear that I am learning as I go... Look back at my first video on this a year ago and hopefully I have improved a lot in my technique....
@@MB_EDC I have successfully used it for steel with 60-61 hrc. But obviously, it takes more time ) Not as long as it might seem. Anyway it's pretty good pocket solution
Thats not a shapener, thats honing a blade. The pull thru is a great way to ruin a blade. See channels that show what it does under a microscope camera. Professional knife sharpeners. Vertical lines don't sharpen blades, horizontal lines do.
@@jyb.el2010 This is made in Germany. You can see it printed on the sharpener in the close-up at about 1:10 Inn the video. I agree that all of the knives are made in Switzerland. Not all of their accessories are.
Been using these for around 4 years, Have one in my Bergan one one my Molle vest and another at home in the kitchen draw.... Works well for when you need something to just add a quick edge... SO I would suspect you are not using it correctly bud..
Work sharp has a angle edc sharpener that’s great as well..I sharpen by hand and use mostly Norton bench stones but I’ve been doing it for 40 years so ..but an angle sharpener is great until you have muscle memory..subbed , great vid brother!
@@TBEDC Thanks brother. I'll check out your channel. I am still a beginner at sharpening - starting late in life. I tend to strop mostly now, especially if there knife is just dull and not damaged.
@TBEDC My first video of this sharpener was literally my first try at sharpening. It has been really popular. Mainly, I think, because people were telling me I was doing it wrong. I have learnt a lot over the last year though. Check it out of you want a laugh!!!
The Japanese PULL the blade across the stone, not push, to reduce the chance of creating jagged edges; so probably the sharpening stone would need to be held near flat. My guess is that the other end bit to it is for lightly finishing off the edge.
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I’m watching this with a heavily bandaged finger after the knife slipped out of the V shaped sharpener and took a lovely slice out of my pointer finger, thanks for reminding me I’m the idiot 🤣
Oh dear! I don't use the pull through section much. The safest way is to hold the knife with it's spine on a flat surface and the blade up wards. Then pull the"v" sharpener along the blade...
The video is welcomed and my comment is in no way a criticism, however, the pen size sharpener is mainly for camping, travelling and keeping your SAK sharpened whilst away from home,the groove down the centre can be used for sharpening fish hooks.Worth mentioning that if you wear a leather belt you can use the inside of it as a strop by hanging the buckle on a branch,you can use a little solid soap making it more effective. .A useful video.
Thanks! I agree entirely about this being a field sharpener. I tend to use it at home as well for my most used pocket knives because it is easier to get out and use, rather than a more complicated sharpening system that I have. And I am stropping a lot more now. Item instead of sharpening. I'll have a video coming up on that in a couple of weeks
i do agree. The size and shape makes it ideal for taking it with you. I bought one also roughly a year ago, and it lives in my backpack for work. As i dislike utility blades (no matter the normal ones or the ones to break off) i prefer using resharpenable blades for cutting things. And it's nice to have something with you in remote areas which can bring back the Leatherman i have in the backpack too, the Victorinox in my pocket, or the cable knife in my work toolbox.
I was considering the Fällkniven DC3 or 4 as it also has a diamond side that would make it faster when the blade is really dull.
But i do have more than one cutting implement with me and the Victorinox is taking up less space/is more convenient to store in my case. And is easily enough until now to keep them sharp.
What i also did was put stropping compound onto a flat and smooth piece of cardboard.
Doesn't take up much space either, and with a flat surface underneath this works great for stropping the blade.
Doesn't need to be leather.
I don't wear leather belts for over 10 years now. I moved tometal free belts as i do have to occasionally go through airport security for work. And while in those instances i am allowed to take tools, even knives with me, it's less of a hassle if i don't need to remove my belt.
So no belt stropping for me.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one using his belt for
that
Why not it's a great idea
I love this thing, so much that I bought two of them. (I'm forever misplacing things.) I'm disabled, and my hands are pretty much shot from both osteo and rheumatoid arthritides. This I can use without pain or difficulty. And use it I do. My Huntsman SAK is my go-to for help with my ADLs, so keeping it sharp is a must. The SAK and the sharpener are critical to maintaining my independence. Gotta love Victorinox.
I use a rubber or for our American friends an eraser to remove the grit from the ceramic rod .Great bit of kit had mine for years still going strong God bless you and your family. Lee
Great tip! I will definitely try that!!!! Thanks brother...
You know what works great to clean ceramic sharpeners? A scotch bright pad, (the green plastic wool looking scouring pads) along with Barkeepers friend cleanser/scouring powder. Ajax will also work, but BF is better. Give that a try. It makes them like new.
@theunknownatheist3815 Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out.
I'm using mine since 2014, simply unbeatable.
Agreed. I have other sharpeners and always ends up coming back to this one...
I have been using one of these for 10 years for my SAK and kitchen knives and it works great. Highly recommend.
Thanks! Hopefully I will still be using this in 10 years time.
I glued a bit of thin leather to the sheath to put on some smurf poop for stropping for a perfect finish!
@@EanTxelan That's a great idea!
I have a few of these, they are great for honing an edge, not so much for restoring one. The pull through sharpener can put a reasonable edge on a dull razor blade. (The sort you use as scrapers).
@@nigelp5352 Hi. Agreed. I mainly use mine to resharpen dull utility knife blades and Victorinox SAK blades used around the house. I have some diamond stones if I need to restore an edge that has taken some damage.
I have one and I think it is great.
It is still my favourite field sharpener...
This sharpener is also good for serrated blades. The shape of the barr is ideal for different sizes of the teeth.
Great point. I don't have any serrated blades. I'll have to borrow my son's Trailmaster
Exactly what I use it for - my Soldiers SAK. 🙏
And it works well?
@@MB_EDC it's not bad, but you have to take your time on each serration. I use the knife when beach cleaning, often cutting rope and fishing net. They quite often have sand and grit in them so the blade dulls quite quickly, but a couple of minutes with this sharpener and I'm good to go. I'm no expert, and I'm sure half the time my angle isn't great, but it still cuts well!
@@roysoutdoorlife Haha! That's the benefit of serrated blades!
Klein makes a steel sharpener in a pen format that is great I've had one for 20 years and still works great
Thanks. Not seen that. I'll take a look
Much more acute angles will give you a longer holding edge on softer steels. I think it was Pete from Cedric and Ada outdoors that did fairly extensive testing and landed something between 15 and 17 degrees being the difference between 30 cuts and 75 cuts on sisal rope.
@@SpaceDave3000 Thanks for the tip. I'll check out their video.
It’s a trade off of strength vs sharpness and edge holding. A 15 degree edge will be very sharp and stay sharp for a while, but it will chip and roll easier. It depends on what you plan on cutting, if it’s just rope, the chances of rolling or chipping are slim. If you’re regularly hitting hard stuff or abusing it, you’ll destroy your blade easily with a 15 degree edge. I usually prefer a 20 degree because I’d rather have a dull knife and touch it up over having chips out of my edge that require a complete re-grind.
I definitely need to learn more about sharpening angles…
@@MB_EDC Haha, yea it’s neat stuff, then you can look into different grinds too, like micro bevels, chisel grinds and Scandinavian “v” grinds, all have advantages and disadvantages. For instance if you use a whetstone the scandi grind is literally the easiest thing in the world to sharpen, it holds its own angle perfectly.
@travispratt6327 The only problem is that so many people have different views on Sharpening. I think I’ll stick to one person maybe @OUTDOORS55 he seems to know his stuff. I have one of the Rolling Sharpeners to try out. Should be interesting…
Brilliant piece of kit that!!
@@elanrhys3178 Thanks Elan! I love it. So easy to use. Perfect for SAK and small pocket knife blades!!
I've bought this one recently and I love it. Previously I've been using only Lansky Spyder, but because it is made for Spyderco curved geometry specifically it does not work well for my other straight edged knives. I agree with you on pull-through part, although I have used it at least twice in a pinch when I had to bring the edge back quickly. Not gonna do that on a regular basis.
Haha! Don't watch my first video on this sharpener... I had no idea... luckily a load of commenters helped put me straight!!!!! I learnt a lot....
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Thanks!!!
I’ve had one for years! It’s excellent for on the go honing! 🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰
Thanks! TBH I use this even at home as it’s easier than the other sharpening systems I have!!
"If you dropped it, it could break..." Can confirm; mine did. I taped it back together and still use the lower part of it.
Thanks for confirming. Glad you can still use it.
Great video! Thanks for doing a one year update on your thoughts! Looks like a great product, I have been thinking about picking one of these up! I have various sharpeners and strops that I use, but I am no expert at sharpening. I don't have a field stone for on the go. This would fill that void. In a pinch, I have actually had good results sharpening knives using the bottom of a ceramic coffee mug!
Thanks Eric. I think a few people use the bottom of a mug. I have the Falkniven DC3. Which is good. But too small. The DC4 would be better. The Victorinox is very easy to use for normal steels. I try to strop more often as well. Usually that's all I need to do...
I use it mostly for my swiss army knives. I agree with this reviewers conclusions.
Thanks! I really appreciate your comments.
I just stumbled across your channel!! Nicely done with the presentation!! I own one and I love it!! I use it with all of my victorinox knives 👍🏿💯❤️🇺🇸 from Washington state.
Thanks Hector. I started using this as a beginner last year and keep coming back to it as it's so easy to use.
no. idiocy has become more advanced since then.
You may be right.... The world is a crazy place!!!!
The benefit of the white ceramic that you don’t like is to hone the sharpening process after you make the edges come together. The white ceramic can be used after you cut food and clean the blade. It just takes toe burr or wire edge off the knife blade.
I have had mixed results with the ceramic pull through. Sometimes the blade feels sharper after using it, sometimes less sharp...
Thank you for a very nice review on a very good product at a reasonable price. The groove in the middle of the sharpener , is for sharpening fishhooks. All the best to you in all future endeavors.
Thanks... I appreciate your comments...
Really great channel. I’m subbed.
@@Handleyman Thanks. I really appreciate your comments. If you liked this video there should be a load more that you will like.
3:55 "...sorry for the noise, it's not one of the best noises."
Agreed ! That damn, so called "music" is so annoying.
I came for a tutorial on sharpening ( a main part is listening to the blade / stone sound, to get it right ) Not for a sappy concertina. If i wanted to hear sad opera i'd Still be listening to my 3rd ex... ☆
Point noted. This is one of three recent videos where I've trialled adding background music. So far you are the only person to complain.
Bonus tip Nr 2: the grooves on the faces allow fishing hooks to be sharpened.
@@merlinch4256 Great point. I forgot to mention that as I don't have any hooks to sharpen!
@@MB_EDC 😄
New subscriber brother, looking forward to watching more of your videos ❤
@@addictedtoblades2 Thanks brother. I appreciate the sub!! Take care…
Nice review,
I have the same sharpener, and I always have in on me whenever I leave the house.
It is so useful and ready to use isn't it!!
@@MB_EDC
Yes, and it doesn't hardly weigh anything.
@scenicdriveways6708 True it's usually in a pocket of my rucksack
I bet you’re fun in a night out😂
Thanks David. I am getting a bit old for nights out.
Sharpeners like this are great for tuning up an edge, but not ideal for re-profiling or repairing serious chips/damage though. However, they are a great tool to keep around and I do recommend them for on the go EDC use. 👍 Thanks for sharing, take care my friend and Cheers!
Cheers Dave. Most of my knives - don't get heavy use...
You do want to raise a burr with this. A burr means you've got a proper apex.
Once you have it, a few light alternating strokes will minimise it, then a good strop will get rid of it completely and you're left with a sharp, durable edge.
@@233kosta Agreed. This is one of the points that I'm missing in my sharpening. I get OK results. Your suggestion will help me do better.
@@MB_EDC As long as you're consistent, you just keep going until you can feel that burr when you slide your finger over the edge (AWAY from the cutting direction, in case anyone needs to be reminded...).
It will feel rough from one side (where the burr is) and smooth from the other (where you last ground against the stone). That's how you know it's there. If it doesn't readily alternate when you swap sharpening sides, then you need to work on being more consistent with your angle.
In learning how to do this, I found that investing 10 quid or so into a little portable microscope (60-100x, came with specimens to look at as well) made a lot of difference. You can actually see the burr, the grinding marks, even the relative flatness of the surface (if you orient your light source just right). A proper eye opener. I got one with a built-in light (off to the side). If I have the light on the side of the spine rather than the edge, it makes the burr light right up, no matter how small.
Then you can also see the effect of going to a finer stone, what those V-notch things do (very bad things!) and whether stropping actually did anything (it should polish up the surface quite nicely. "SHOULD"... 😅).
@233kosta My daughter had a digital microscope that I have borrowed a few times.
Great video 👍
Thanks brother!!!
That's not bad in a quick pinch. Curious, I actually like the noise it makes.
@@foureight84 It works really well on my Victorinox SAKs - which are my normal carry. I have a video comparing it to the Falkninven DC3 and another planned for a couple of the small Worksharp sharpeners.
I consider it a good tool for outdoor use as it's small.
True. Great for small knives like Swiss Army knives.
I like the Speedy Sharp. Admittedly it takes a fine hand.
Personally I’m not a fan of pull through sharpeners as they tend to remove a lot of metal and leave grooves in the metal along the edge, rather than at 90 degrees to the edge. I have mostly stopped using the pull through part of this Victorinox sharpener. But it it works for you no problem. Take care brother.
@@MB_EDC Its not a pull through it is a small rectangle of I guess carbide steel that you draw along the edge of the knife or vice versa. It is so hard its supposed to never wear out. It does take a fine hand or you remove too much metal. What grit is the victorinox stone?
Apologies. I have seen them, but not used one. I think they would need a lot of practice to use correctly. Again there is a risk of removing a lot of metal to get a sharp edge. As a lot of my knife use is got fairly light work - Cardboard and string - where the blade gets dull but is not damaged, I try to use a strop to bring the sharp edge back. This gives a really sharp edge with the least amount of metal removed and should prolong the life of my knives without wearing them down too much.
Sounds like you should try a sharpening steel @@MB_EDC
@MB_EDC have you tried a sharpening steel?
Handy tool, I think I'll pick one up. New sub also. God bless, Rob
Thanks Rob. Much appreciated. I use this sharpener a lot. Thanks for the sub. I’m sure you’ll like some of my other videos. Take care brother.
@@MB_EDC Absolutely, I'll be checking them out.
Check on Amazon. Sometimes they are on sale.
Ive had this Vic sharpener for ages too, cabt recommend it enough, its in my travel bag
It has been my go-to sharpener for ages. Great for small blades.
@@MB_EDC 100%, all my smaller blades see this sharpener
@SlipjointSawyer The LIDL sharpener is pretty good too. Video coming out on it today.
@@MB_EDC 10-4
I do leatherwork and I keep one of these in my toolbox for keeping my xacto blades sharp. Between this and a strop I can keep one blade for literally months now. Highly recommend it for that, but not much else.
I re-sharpen my utility knife blades of they're not to best up. It's so easy as the steel is soft
@@MB_EDC I sometimes give brand new stanley blades a once-over. Gets the corner of the tip as sharp as the rest of the blade, which makes them much better for opening packages/etc. They cut like scalpels after that.
@@233kosta Brilliant. It's crazy that they get thrown away after a few uses when they get blunt. I resharpen mine. I have a video about it THROWING BLUNT UTILITY BLADES AWAY?? Utility blade resharpening using the Victorinox Dual Sharpener
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@@MB_EDC I mean if you think about it, those were designed to be disposable, and for good reason - most people want to just get on with the job at hand, they don't have the time to be re-sharpening an old blade when the new one drops in and just cuts.
That said, they do make excellent practice blades. For the same reason - if you ruin one, it's not like it was a super expensive bespoke knife, it's just a stanley blade. But they're still made of a hard steel (well... harder than you can get out of stainless anyway), so they're good to learn on.
It's different note with quick change blades. But with the old Stanley knives where you had to unscrew to change the blade - I could resharpen the blade quicker than changing it. Check out my video showing this....
News flash... It's not idiot proof.... I completely ruined my small blade on victorinox when i try to use it. Lol
Ah yes it does take a bit of practice. Easy to scratch up stone-washed blades.
It's always better to strop more often than sharpening your knife
Stropping is edge maintenance much like touching up kitchen knives with the steel rod most block sets include
Sharpening is mainly desired after the edge has become sufficiently dull and stropping does little to nothing to improve the cutting capacity. Every time you sharpen you remove steel, so it's good to keep that in mind
@@brianlash154 Agree 100% I sharpen a little less these days. In fact I recently did a video on this topic You could be DAMAGING your KNIVES!!! Sharpen Less Strop More!!
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This vs Worksharp field ?
Really good question! Given the price point and size of the Worksharp field sharpener. I think that the Victorinox is closer to the Worksharp pocket and micro sharpeners. Probably coming somewhere in between. Unfortunately I have not tried any of these. It does compare favourably to the Falkniven DC3 which I have. Check out my video Ultimate SHARPENING Showdown: VICTORINOX vs. FALLKNIVEN DC3
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Bravo! 🙂
Thank you!
Victorynox also has diamond sharpener, which is even more carry friendly,, and will take care of your harder steel knives. I like that much more that this one, which I didn't use that much and gifted away.
@@grumpy_cat1337 I haven't seen the Victorinox diamond sharpener. I will check it out. My concern would be that it removed s lot of metal each time you sharpen
@@MB_EDC I don't think you should worry about that. It's not coarse, I don't know the exact grit, but if I have to guess, from my experience with diamond benchstones - it feels like 800, maybe even higher. It's enough to sharpen your knife, since it's a diamond grit, but it wouldn't remove steel aggressively.
@user-mb4xy2cz3t Ok. That makes sense.
The noise thats annoying is the fing music!
Sorry about that..... I have stopped the music on my videos....
@@MB_EDCjust a bit lower volume, if you like it to be there. That's my opinion, fwiw :-)
Also, to help auto focus the camera onto the knife, which is very small. Maybe try opening your hand flat so the camera has a larger object to auto focus on. The letter the object, closer to center, the quicker the auto focus can figure it out.
Hope this helps.
🤔 I couldn’t even hear the music over your pointless bitching. Thx 4 pointing that out. 😢
Thanks for the tips...
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Can you tell me how to sharp the vic scissors? With that sharpener?
@@DonyMustafa you open up the scissors and lightly run each scissor blade along the stone as would a knife. The oval shaped off the stone lets you sharpen the whole length of the scissor blades. It is a little fiddly with the smaller scissors. Much easier with my Pioneer X Alox scissors..
@@MB_EDC okay thank you sir, now you got my subscribtion,,,
@@DonyMustafa You are welcome...
As my old Dad used to say, “sharpen your knife once a year, hone it every time you use it”
Thanks!!! Great saying....... I think most people sharpen too often....!!!
Yeah, I watched another knife sharpening guy and he said that for most people they only need to strop regularly.
@@joelamaro4525 Yep. Especially if it's only cardboard and paper cutting that cause your knife to dull
HY. The ceramic part is exactly the V shaped one, that u don't use :)
@@kelemenpalgyorgy I think that the main sharpening rod is ceramic as well
@@MB_EDC No it's not - it's a regular grindstone with a grit of 360. Only the v-shaped pull through sharpener is made of ceramic.
@@leifdehio2151 Apologies - I thought it was a ceramic rod as well.
No,no ceramik@@MB_EDC
Ok thanks...
I have one and bought one for a friend. Love it. Even use it to touch up my kitchen knives.👍
Thanks - it is so easy to use and as you hopefully saw in the video - I use it for kitchen knives too....
440c isn't a hard steel
If correctly heat treated it can be one of the hardest stainless steels.
@@MB_EDC 58-60 hrc isn't anything special. It's also not great a retaining an edge because it is soft, on the flip side it's quick to sharpen. There's a reason why 440c is found on cheap knives
@slippinggnome My 440c is on a Boker Expedition Barlow. It keeps an edge well, but it's not easy to sharpen with the Victorinox sharpener.
@@MB_EDC These days 440C is a budget steel. It is one of the better budget steels. Its easy to sharpen and it holds an edge fairly well. And it balances hardness and toughness pretty well. But as much as I think it, like VG10, is a good solid steel that can handle most people's cutting needs, the days of it being considered a super-steel are long gone. Things like Elmax, Vanax, s90v/s120v, M390, ZDP189, Maxamet, and Rex121 have replaced it in the wowsers steel category. There is nothing wrong with that. Metallurgists have simply come up with harder, more wear resistant, and tougher steels since 440c considered a super-steel in the mid-20th century.
As for the bit about it not being easy to sharpen with the Victorinox sharpener... It is all about perspective. What are you comparing 440C to? If your comparison is something like 420J2/3cr13mov/x30cr13 then 440c will definitely take longer because its 58-60HRC is a lot harder than their 52-54HRC. The same is true of the 1.4110 steel used in most Victorinox pocket knives that comes in with a HRC of around 56. If you're comparing it to one of the current crop of super-steels I mentioned or even budget steels like D2, which all have HRCs above 60 (in some cases well above 60 HRC) and which are formulated to be very wear resistant not so much.
@@jkirschy Thanks for three technical download. I find the Victorinox blades easy to sharpen, same for D2
Please people stay away from any horizontal sharpening Devices!
It will ruin EVERY blade in the long run!
In a pinch fine, but not as a main way of sharpening.
The horizontal long scratch pattern is inferior to the vertical short scratch pattern.
In terms of strenght.
It will last way longer and wont damage your apex.
Do you mean the pull-through v-shaped sharpeners? Definitely not good. I rarely use that on this sharpener now. Only rarely for cheap kitchen knives. The ceramic stone is much better and with practice you can get a consistent angle.
@@MB_EDC yes the v shaped ones, maybe the rolling sharpeners too, got no eyperience in using them.
...and yeah i agree the ceramic rod is definitely usefull👍
I like the technique u Show us, never seen it like this.
I never learned hand sharpening, im a cave man in that regard 😂
But what i like to use is the Worksharp precision adjust system.
Even i can Manage to get a near mirror polished edge on my knifes.
Can definitely recommend this System👍
@@raphaelkunoldIn fairness, the ceramic one on this is infinitely better than the carbide ones others sell, but yeh, not a good idea.
@@233kosta yeah i agree👍
I have a Chinese knock-off off the Lansky sharpening system. Which is OK - But a bit of a faff to set up. For the light sharpening I have to do mainly the Victorinox works well.
It is only good for very short knives.
@@piotrmarczak3733 It works well for UK Legal pocket knives under 3 inches
AGree... it's perfect for all victorinox knives and similar sized pocket knives....
you can use the pull through for shitty knifes of friends and relatives if they ask you to sharpen them. They usually don't need shaving sharp (they cannot appreciate it, they cannot maintain it, they absolutely will get injured - all of my relatives did, when i sharpened theirs)
Fair point…but the main stone only takes a few strokes to bring an average knife back to a decent edge. Just tried out some cheap diamond stones that are working well.
@@MB_EDC true, but i seem to pity the good stone for not really appreciated knives, and tend to "save" it for ones that do represent any value (to me or f&f). And the pull trough should also be used up somehow, so this is what i figured out. But yes, if you do sharpen knives of others that are of some value, or you sit down pőlanning to enjoy the sharpening process, of course you use the good stone :)
@@MB_EDC i also tried the diamond sharpener from Victorinox. It is very good.
I actually find it therapeutic to take several dull knives and sharpen them. I did this last week with 6 of our kitchen knives. Selected a film to watch as I did it and worked through them, getting them all back to super sharp… very satisfying
@@MB_EDC best chillout!!!
Idiot proof doesn’t mean an idiot that proves something. Geez!
Maybe the idiot is the person who doesn’t understand the idea behind a simple pun?
I am the idiot here. I was a complete beginner when I started using this and can now do a decent job of sharpening my knives.
Thanks
@MB_EDC
First time on your channel.
Enjoyed your video and found it informative.
As a suggestion - if you are making instructional videos it is best that you do not make reference to yourself as an "idiot" (especially repeatedly as you did in your video and comments section).
People want to learn from a confident instructor - not one that is self-deprecating.
Looking forward to exploring your other content.
Happy Trails!
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@paulamcclure3402 Thank you...I do try to be competent, but also want to be clear that I am learning as I go... Look back at my first video on this a year ago and hopefully I have improved a lot in my technique....
"when you put the handle on it, you have something to hold it by" Dude is a genius, lol
Haha! I could get a degree in stating the obvious!!!😂
We are not allowed pocket knives in Australia because the people are to weak to say no to a nanny government.
It's it no knives at all in Australia? In the UK we are permitted non-locking folders with blades up to 3 inches long
JoeX Has lots of knives
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@@raymondgarza6688 Austria and Australia are two different things.
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Those are knife edge destroyers!
@@JMWexperience Could you give more details? I have not had a problem with this.
hands and voice don't match
Not sure what to you mean. Were they out of sync?
@@MB_EDC he meant that your voice is soft and delicate in oposition to your hands :)
@Demigood1237 Ah. I think my hands show my age more than my voice...
this knife is made of plasticine ...
@@tvlad It is not a hard steel. I would not recommend this sharpener for hard steels. Better to use diamond sharpeners and stropping compound
@@MB_EDC I have successfully used it for steel with 60-61 hrc. But obviously, it takes more time ) Not as long as it might seem. Anyway it's pretty good pocket solution
@tvlad Wow! That's good going!
Title:After one year's use
1:09 I rarely use this
Useless video spotted, bye.
That was just the pull through sharpener that I rarely use. I use the ceramic rod all the time. I think you may have jumped off really...
@@MB_EDCthe ceramic pull thru is for finishing the edge.
@@kwkstar I don’t use it. I would rather strop
@@MB_EDC but the oval stone is not ceramic
@kwkstar it has the texture of a ceramic stone
Thats not a shapener, thats honing a blade. The pull thru is a great way to ruin a blade. See channels that show what it does under a microscope camera. Professional knife sharpeners. Vertical lines don't sharpen blades, horizontal lines do.
Did you watch all of the video?! I have stopped using the pull through sharpener and just use the stone...I am quite clear on this...
The Victor Inox is swiss made, not german!
@@jyb.el2010 This is made in Germany. You can see it printed on the sharpener in the close-up at about 1:10 Inn the video. I agree that all of the knives are made in Switzerland. Not all of their accessories are.
@MB_EDC Ok. It's maybe! I'm sorry.
@ No worries😁
I didn't like it. Doesn't work properly
I find it really good for pocket knives like Victorinox SAKs. You should persevere it takes a while to get the hang of it
Really? Maybe you just need a bit more practice. Mine works great.
@@GaiaOne 👍
Been using these for around 4 years, Have one in my Bergan one one my Molle vest and another at home in the kitchen draw.... Works well for when you need something to just add a quick edge... SO I would suspect you are not using it correctly bud..
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Work sharp has a angle edc sharpener that’s great as well..I sharpen by hand and use mostly Norton bench stones but I’ve been doing it for 40 years so ..but an angle sharpener is great until you have muscle memory..subbed , great vid brother!
@@TBEDC Thanks brother. I'll check out your channel. I am still a beginner at sharpening - starting late in life. I tend to strop mostly now, especially if there knife is just dull and not damaged.
@@MB_EDC hey, we all have to start somewhere..
@TBEDC My first video of this sharpener was literally my first try at sharpening. It has been really popular. Mainly, I think, because people were telling me I was doing it wrong. I have learnt a lot over the last year though. Check it out of you want a laugh!!!
@@MB_EDC I’ll have to check it out
The Japanese PULL the blade across the stone, not push, to reduce the chance of creating jagged edges;
so probably the sharpening stone would need to be held near flat.
My guess is that the other end bit to it is for lightly finishing off the edge.
I prefer to push with this type of stone. The pull method is probably better for a flat stone.