Why Humans Suck At Flying Rockets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2019
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In the modern world of airtravel, pilots still play an essential role in safely flying the plane. But when it comes to flying rockets, humans have always taken a back seat, since computers are capable of getting into orbit with much more accuracy. This video compares rocket pilots to airline pilots and looks at how SpaceX's Starship rocket will land on Mars all by iteslf.
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5:22 "You can't", annnnnnndd I just did. On the first try.... My rocket pilots license plz
Same
I also did it at the first try... on 0:00
I was at 1:28 at my first try and then made it to 0:00 on my second try.
So where i collect my rocket license? Did it at the first try xD
Same hereeee!!!!! First try!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂🤝📸. Alright NASA. What's next?😁
I like the dancing Elon at 0:00 on your timer (5:26)
Edit: Yeah, I just hit it on real time by sheer (?) luck.
@@asefjamilajwad or just use , and . to go frame by frame.
PixelRayn too
I hit it at 0:00 first time, and have noone to witness it
Me, too.
me too, on the first try. I tried again after and it took 6 tries :))
Well, I enjoyed this Audible advert. It's a shame it was interrupted multiple times by brief and misleading sections about rocketry.
Why do you say he is misleading
@@natureportal9285 Well, myriad reason. For example: The landing of a falcon 9 booster is not dependent on GPS. And landing on Mars & other celestial bodies are always automated with the same technology. It's just not in any way the limitation or difficulty we're facing.
Edit: Then he's like "one solution of how to land on a planet we already landed on is to land on it first at least 3 times before landing on it". @6:40
@@MegaAlexPink I wouldn't say we "landed" on Mars... more like... crash landed with a giant balloon around us.
@@NetworKrakle nah u need to go do some research on how different landings have worked. Ur a good decade behind 😉
@@MegaAlexPink Bruh.
Falcon 9 uses a preprogrammed gps coordinate to land.
Did you do your research?
2nd try and i paused exactly on 0:00, nice touch on the dancing elon
First try for me.
YOU CAN BOTH LAND ROCKETS THEN!!
@@vagasint.4345 No, we can just get lucky.
sheep lord welll.... if the computer were incapacitated and the space attendant asked who can fly this rocket. You would have saved a lot of people lol
@@vagasint.4345 if the computer is broken, something I am not betting that I would still be alive.
I have played enough KSP to, in fact, be able to pause the video at 0.00, and it only took me 7 quicksave reloads.
Nice maracas!
Facts
It took me 2 times with no .25 speed or frame by frame (, & .)
Only 1 try and then i try’d again but it just made me mad
I mean the computer does exacly that: runs thousands/millions of simulations every time the input changes/there is the time for it.
Hmm, you might want to reconsider after playing KSP.
edit: Primal changed the title so I make less sense now.
edit 2: I just noticed it was uploaded on 9/11, I guess that was why the title was changed?
Ksp proves his point
Yeah try timing a landing perfectly - without use of Mechjeb or the other one that tells you when to burn
Especially with mods
Especially with mods
True
Don't believe everyone that says they got it at 0 the first time, they're probably lying
But you can trust me I sereiously did it
Well I did it. At the first try, You can trust me
I seriously did that though.
you said don't believe everyone so i don't believe you did it.
@@suhandatanker you can believe me, just not everyone else
@@ohhilol... lol ok
Great video but the audible ad in the middle was quite jarring.
I was was thinking exactly the same thing! Great video. But Primal Space should tone down the sale pitch and shorten the time allotted to the audible plug. Other influencers do that and the end of their video and use a different angle. They focus on what they like about the product they are pushing. They don't just regurgitate the product manufacturer's sale pitch.
Other than that I like the videos. :)
Whole thing was just an ad
Good to know u don't just watch Tim xD
Dont judge him, he need money like everyone of us...
Just skip through it boomer
@4:55 It's not actually a textbook "suicide burn" but a hoverslam as SpaceX calls it. A suicide burn is full throttle at the lowest possible until touchdown while a hoverslam starts higher with lower throttle. This allows the Falcon 9 to vary its deceleration for a gentle and more precise landing.
I think it is still a suicideburn because the TWR is greater than 1
i think its more of a pr thing to call it a hoverslam than a suicide burn
"Pause it when the number reaches 0... You can't."
-Slows down video-
I bet you feel dumb now huh?
Hehehehe
(totally doesn't go frame by frame to get 0)
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he'd not actually put a slide with 0.00? Skip right over it.
veteran ksp players: you've got to be joking
600 hours, I could definitely pilot a rocket to the mun by now
5:27 First try at 0:00 and I’m not joking
and Second try too wtf
Proof: there is a Dancing Elon above the dot on the falcon 9
You are definitely a super AI
Red FireStormer no joke I got it my first try and second try too
Vault Boy nice :D
I got it 1st try
paused at 0.55 then at 0
This timer thing was a really good way of engaging your audience - not to mention making sure we remember the vid way longer than normally when just going around youtube watching random stuff.I felt a need to try and pause it at 0.00 - borderline physical pain until I freakin' went back and finally tried.
5:27 did it first try, does this mean I can skip school and university and fly rockets now?
XD no
Who's on the decimal point? Elon musk?
As an Airline pilot I can point two good reasons why it'd be hard to guide a rocket:
1- Humans need references to guide a vehicle, since at space or earth orbit references are distant and hard to track(Eye-ball) actually piloting is really hard. Take docking now, references are close and rotation/acceleration/speed is easier to "feel".
2- Since there are lots lots and lots of calculations going on. We get the role of Go-Nogo decisions. If we were to focus on navigation and booster/thrusters only we would miss the big picture. Take Apollo 12 for example, it was troubleshooting right from the start.
And yes, we would waste tons of fuel to manually guide the rocket.
Hands down, the best Segway into an advertisement I've seen!
A radar and/or lidar altimeter will certainly be part of the Mars solution re the hoverslam. And a hi-res radar mapping of the general landing site can be done at computer-speed while descending to determine the precise site. A bunch of engineering undergrads could program that.
But I have yet to read a definitive answer on whether F9 augments GPS with radar. Just seems so logical, especially for droneship landings where deck is moving vertically at a varying rate. Have seen repeated claims that hyper-precise GPS is all that is needed.
They do use radar, but it would not work on mars. Radar can be used to do some large scale ground mapping, like the probe which used it to penetrate venus' clouds to map its surface, but that level of detail we already know about mars from the MRO mission still in orbit. What spacex uses radar for is for precise location and ranging of their pads during landing and this is only possible because the paint they use for the big white X is specifically designed to reflect radar. There is no such painted pad on mars though (yet). My guess is it will still have a ground radar to double check the mapping data from the MRO, but will use a mix of computer vision and LiDAR for the final approach.
@@maxk4324 Thanks for the info about radar paint at SpaceX pads. LiDAR it is, then. Unless they send ahead a probe to throw paint-filled balloons. :)
5:27 OMG I ACTUALLY PAUSED IT AT 0.00
After like 15 attempts 😅
I did it first try :D
@@born2burn1 Felt really good doing it first try lol
I did it 2 times in a row, first and second try
i did it third try
@@born2burn1 same here
IDK why but this is the smoothest transition into an ad between HAI,Wendover Productions ,Infographic show and Primal Space
Add @Matt Lowne in there, comrade. You ight lost your mind when you one of them AHAHHAHAHHA
"lIkE yOu CaNt PaUsE aT ExAcTlY 0"
me: gets it at 0 first try
One of my fav channels! Try to upload more frequently
“...to pause this video when the number reaches zero. You can’t.”
*pauses video at 0*
I’m a computer now
computer time
SET THE PLAYBACK SPEED TO 0.25X AND IT WILL STOP AT 0.00
5:20 I got it on my first try, and at 0 there's a picture of Elon Musk standing on the decimal
Same
Where
I would think landing three transponders for a Mars landing would be just as difficult as the actual landing. A better method might be for each ship to carry 3 or more cube SATs. Once a suitable location is determined, the cube SATs detach and are placed in a geosynchronous orbit orbit near the entry window, allowing for a limited GPS system. Then, as launches start to accumulate, you would simultaneously build up a GPS system.
I know this sounds fake, but I got it to stop on 0 on the first try!
Quinn S Same!
Same, but I have to admit it requires more luck than would be acceptable for repeatability.
@@ZSVisuals bro it's been 2 days, and I'm not gonna go back.
ST Productions, falcon 9 with dancing Elon.
Same
so when he said that you cant pause the video when it reaches 0.00 i was very bored i almost fell asleep then when i hit spacebar it paused exactly at 0.00 and the i screamed OOOOOOOOHHHH
"Getting the timing absolutely perfect is like trying to pause this video when the number reaches zero, you can't." *laughs in 0.25 playback speed*
Thank you, you helped me very much. I off course like everyone here had this question in mind for a long time 😂
We are now going to have a successful landing
He: "You can't" Me: "Hold my beer"
Ok, i legit hit it on 0:00 on the first try! ;D
4:57 thats the most Kerbal Space Program crap I've ever heard.
• it sounds dangerous
• it doesn't sound professional
• it sounds like something you would do in KSP
Me in KSP: Whatever you say. I'ma head out for Duna on a lawn chair.
"Like pausing when this reaches 0 you cant" I literally just did ez
i did pause it perfectly on the first try :D lol
I know I can't prove it but still it made my day
Title: "Why humans suck at flying rockets."
Leo from the Little Einsteins: "Am I a joke to you?"
"I just paused at 0.00 first try"
Me after 319445727604045765 tries: *not even close*
1:29 “ ahh make it stop”
5:26 *HEH FIRST TRY! I'M A SUPERHUMAN*
I got it on my first try too
"You can't pause this video on exactly 0"
*paused 0 exactly on first try*
Me: *_that's it i'm joining NASA after this_*
I got notified on this upload while I was inside a sag mill motor I almost stopped my inspection to watch it.... very well done as always
PS: Why Humans Are Bad At Flying Rockets
KSP Players: *o b s e r v e*
MK245 I have 2100 hours on ksp so I’m a pro
Literally 2100 hours
@@tylerssher5926 why would a number of hours make you a pro?
Not saying that just my life is ksp
Space Sheep
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5:27 I literally paused at exactly 0:00 first time 😂😂
I thought you just skipped the frame displaying 0:00 so its actually impossible. Finding a dancing elon surprised me even more than finding out you can actually pause it.
As always superb quality. Thank you for this one. When do I get the next chance to get a SaturnV?
Wow. Not a single view? Really? It's such a good channel.
OMG no jocking I got 0.00 first time.
No one:
Aliens: *why humans sucks at flying rockets*
Obi-Wan Kenobi hahaha
I'm fine with the impossible number of people who stopped it @ 0.00 "first try".. But ALL these people complaining about ads must think they "deserve" free content. So even if you make something people like, they blame you for trying to sustain making that thing for them. Can't win.. I Love the channel. Thank you Primal Space Team!
I had a hard time determining if this video was for real or just clickbait infomercial for audiobooks. I’ll stay subscribed for now but if the clever commercial segways continue I’m outta here.
He's gotta make a living somehow. This was not a very intrusive ad as compared to other places on TH-cam, I think we can spare the tiny amount of patience for an ad to allow him to keep making the good content we want to see.
How about a real career with TH-cam just as a hobby. It’s much more fun when your channel is not monetized. TH-cam is flooded with channels vying for our financial loyalty and this market is saturated. What the hell, it’s certainly ok to make an attempt.
@@DeathValleyDazed Not everyone wants it to just be a hobby, and high quality video take a long time to plan, record, and edit so having it as a side gig isn't always viable for some people. Also a lot of people don't want to spend the majority of their time doing something they don't like just to get the chance to spend a small amount of time doing something they do like. Many want to make a career out of what they love to do, and having a minute or so of advertising in a (on average) ten minute video isn't a huge price to pay. What you are basically asking is for career TH-camrs to give up their current jobs for something they'd like to do less and dramatically increase the complexity of their lives just to spare us a very minor annoyance. It's not exactly a fair thing to ask. Like what harm did watching him talk about audible cause you?
@@DeathValleyDazed Also, being a TH-camr is s "real career", as you put it.
@@maxk4324 Max, I really get what you're saying in support of Primal Space. My opinion on this matter is just that, another opinion and for that reason not really worth much. It sounds like you personally know "Primal Space" and that he, in fact, TH-cams for his life work, passion, income, and personal fulfillment? Some TH-camrs stumble onto monetization by luck and accident because their hobby channel became so popular they basically had to go full time just to keep up with the energy and attention. Tim Dodd, Every Day Astronaut might fit this description. Besides TH-cam rocket and science stuff, I listen to ESPN radio and as irritated with their constant segway and plugging products in clever ways. The content is so saturated with commercials that it's approaching the 40-50 percent of listener time. I'm not anti-commercials because they have to generate income but it's close to reaching the infomercial level. Primal Space has excellent content and I wish his channel nothing but more success. Thanks for taking the time to comment and add some juice to this comment section.
I saw elon on the dot... for second time stopping after 0.46....
Commercial planes in the 60s be like: put an engine on that blob of sheet metal over there
I'm not joking when I say that I paused it a zero by accident and it is now my biggest achievement in life.
5:00 incorrect. Rocket engines are capable of throttling there thrust. The real reason firing too soon is bad is you run out of fuel before you land, thus causing you to crash
Yeah but there are limits to thrust control, imagine trying to switch gears mid-fall.
kakytoo69
Even with throttling, a single Merlin engine produces *more* thrust than the booster stage weight. It has to come in decelerating -all the way,- and shut off precisely on time.
@@avid0g true enough, but you also have to factor in that an engine still produces thrust even after its shut off. Its a balancing act
@@kakytoo69
Yes. It also helps to have dampers in the landing legs to accommodate the error band.
Falcon-1 Mk-3 rear-ended the second stage, after stage separation, because of residual thrust after MECO.
Real life is not KSP. Rocket engines can only be throttled so much. 1 Merlin engine at minimum thrust gives the Falcon 9 booster while landing a thruster weight ratio of more than one.
That transition into the sponsor segment was perfect.
No it wasn’t
Managed to pause it on 0 seconds. I liked the Man with his things. Now can i go to space?
Now that's how to do an embedded advert, I honestly can't wait until we start sending humans to Mars.
4:50
"Since the rocket has a thrust to weight ratio greater than one, it has to perform a suicide burn"
lol what? Excuse me? If it had a TWR less than one it would smash into the ground.
That's like saying "because john has a heartbeat, he must go to work today." What an insane non sequitur.
It must perform a "suicide burn" to land in the most efficient way possible, because it only has some much fuel left.
Unsubscribing. I don't watch your videos to be reminded that Audible exists every 30 seconds.
Damn, that audible ads were smoother than SpaceX first successful orbital class first stage landing
I just paused it exactly at 0.00. It was at 1.5 speed, too, and It was on my first try. What is that guy holding something like a maraca?
Dancing elon
"...another thing that's exciting is the incredible range of audiobooks...." lol ffs. Also, do you really have to do that mid-video as well as the end? Stop it. The way you're going about the advertising is cringy, annoying, and for that I'm definitely not subscribing.
Annoying ads! That video deserved a thumbs up but you get a down just for the ads.
"Why humans suck when flying a rocket?"
KSP players: First time?
*Me at a Nasa Astronaut Interview*
NASA Guy: So do you have any flying experience?
Me: Does Kerbal Space program count.
Nasa Guy: No.
Me: Uh well nope
Nasa Guy: Well You can build rockets though.
all I heard was "audible audible blah blah"
That transition to the ad was the best I've ever seen. Gotta give props for that!
5:27 Im not gonna lie I literally paused exactly at 0.00 and when I noticed I couldnt belive myself achieving an unlikely feat
Thanks for the tutorial, I can finally land in Mars now
got to admit the integrated ad is so much better than commercial interruptions
The multitude of annoying audible ads killed it for me. Giving no thumbs was the best I could do.
" ... To put it simply, if Boeing would come out tomorrow with a new pilot less aircraft, the FAA would lose their mind..."
They came out with a plane with a computer that was intentionally crashing the damn thing, and the FAA didn't say anything.
After 5 minutes of trying, i managed to stop exactly at 0:00. I have proved you wrong!
I was trying to find the time of the video where you said "you can't" for a joke an accidentally stopped the video perfectly at 0:00 *again*
Enjoyed the dancing elon. Yes, it was worth it
Too many ads for such a short video.
I thought they modulated the flow of fuel to make the Falcon 9 land. If I understand the explanation in this video, the engine runs with constant power and they just play on the timing. If it is correct, then they have achieved a remarkable feat!
You cant have an engine run at whatever throttle you want it to run at lmfao. Rocket engines just dont work that way.
Even if engines were designed like that, their not gonna be consistent in any way, shape, or form.
Great video, as usual. I got the triple zeros at my first try. There´s a funny picture there.
I tried pausing the video
1st try -0.56sec
2nd try -0.16sec
_you have crashed the rocket and failed the mission._
*Restart* *main menu*
Edit: 3rd try did it.
"You can't" i just did it, i am more precise than a computer. Where's my free rocket?
Hey primal space, so uh not gonna lie but the thing you said in 5:27, i got it perfectly on 0.00 on my first try lol also the youtube timer bugged out when it shows 0.00 on screen and it also shows 0:00. I have screenshots for proof
Video was very nice but i had problems with sound. It was very low. I wish it was more audible which is very cool amazon company, there are lots of discount nowadays.
My first 100 hours of KSP when I didn't know about SAS say you are wrong
title:Why Humans Suck At Flying Rockets
me: because
I didn't know this was a question that needed answering, but I'm glad I clicked.
ok im not gonna cap. i did the number thing. im high asf rn and ive been trying to took me at least for tries but on my mom i did it. i have it on the screen. i literally trained myself each time. i see gthe comments saying they did it but it actually felt nice to try. and do it so quickly
I spent nearly 20 minutes just getting that pause button on zero! Lmao
Paused at 0 first try, where is my pilot’s license? :D
THERES NO FUCKING WAY I PAUSED IT PERFECTLY ON ZERO
Correction. Buzz Aldrin took control of the luner lander because he was the mission pilot, Neal was the commander.
If I am not mistaken, the Lunar Module Pilot was in charge of giving information to the Commander. The Commander did the actual flying, but the Pilot specialized in the LEM and made sure the Commander had everything he needed to know.
Both guys are absolutely essential, though.
So during the first transatlantic flight:
the aircraft barely took off, missing a line of trees, the generator failed, loosing radio communications and the heating system, the pilots couldn’t navigate in a fog because they couldn’t see the stars, they nearly missed the sea and finally they had a rough landing...
But Hey! It only took 16 hours! That’s good enough to start commercial transatlantic flights 😃👍🏻
5:26 as someone who plays KSP, and hit 0 on 2nd try, I think a better comparison would comparison would be you have to hit 0 on the timer but theres 20-40 seconds of delay and you don't know exactly what it is unless you can pull off some sick mental algebra in the next 5 seconds but then you have to do the same thing for both lateral axes but then remind yourself that when you rotate to account for lateral motion you now have fucked your vertical calculations.
It took me multiple tries to get to 0:00 when I slowed the video down to .25x speed. And there is a blurred dancing Elon. I really enjoyed the video though. And I agree, nobody can reliably get the timer down to zero in real time
Title: why humans sucks at flying rocket
Me: just because i cant land my own rocket in game...why
no one:
literally no one:
primal space: toy cant stop it on zero seconds, it's impossible
me: i stopped it on zero seconds
Yeah, it's technically possible to pause on 0. However, would you bet your life on this? No way! However, I do rely on the narrator integrating his advertising with better precision, and style than any computer. As usual, I listen to the very end out of respect to the method. :-)
Are you the guy that makes mustard videos? Same music and very similar voice. Love both Chan's, just curious.
Thank you for the applause, little period man.
If you all in fact paused the video at 0.00, then tell me, what did primal space put in that one frame? If you can’t tell me, y’all didn’t stop it at 0.00.
You can’t stop the video at 0:00
Me:Oh yea?
turns playback speed to 0.25
I did it successfully
Returns to normal speed
Aldous Huxley's 1932 epigenetic story and 1940s periodical "Sashin Shuho" had pilots trained in rolling cages.
Anime "Macross" and Hiroyuki Morika of Hayakawa SF?
Remember Frank Herbert had "Guild Navigator Steersmen" copied by Apple TV+ as "Spacers" .
Him: why humans are bad at flying rocket
Me with 2k hours of KSP: am i a joke to you
Got in on 0.00 for the timer. Thanks for the dancing Elon Musk.