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Actually something you should look in to were the post Voyager concepts as the star fleet academy which has kinda become Prodigy, along with the time travel series and even a post Nemesis Animated Star Trek Series are all tantalising as Alien3's Wooden Planet script.
I'm more interested in knowing more about the deep fakes of the Phase II Enterprise in the drydock images as I know those photos well and I know that the Phase II Enterprise was never fully completed to the point those deep fakes show. Allegedly, Robert Able took the model, along with its molds, completed the model, but to more closely match the final TMP version as well as make additional models from the molds for use at Planet Hollywood, among other venues.
And now we need a new letter writing campaign for 'Stra Trek: Prodigy'. There is an online petition to save the show. I grew up with and adored TOS, loved TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and I think Prodigy is as good as them and needs to be saved.
I wonder what the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been like If It did happen In the 1970's ?! I do agree with the Star Trek Phase II TV series Executive Producers that the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been difficult to make If Actor: Leonard Nimoy had refused to repise his role of Mr. Spock In the TV series. That would been awkward and It would have been very difficult to resolve. I might NOT have liked the Star Trek Phase II Vulcan Character of Xon portrayed by Actor: David Gautereux. I think It might have been a good idea to abandon the Ideas for Star Trek Phase II In favor of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Movie. At least the whole original cast was able reunite for the Star Trek: TOS movies.
Awesome breakdown and I didn't realize Shatner had the same issues that Nimoy had with the finances from the Network. Though I want to say Nimoy's refusal to sign on to more Star Trek was because he was bitter about being recognized only as Spock and that grew as he found out the studio was making a killing using his likeness without his permission which led to the lawsuit. In fact it was the studio needing Spock that caused the suit to be settled and Nimoy not only getting back pay but I believe gave him the contract that allowed him to direct later Star Trek 3 and 4.
Shortly after Star Trek went of the air, the Neilson Ratings system added demographics. While the raw numbers were not great, the demographic numbers (in the highly desirable 20-40 range), were very good. If the ratings were calculated using demographics, NBC would have certainly given us a 4th season.
No telling what NBC might have done - it sounded like they were pretty much dead-set on getting rid of the show. Seems like there's always been a lot of that going around: FOX had a tendency to launch and then kill its own sci-fi shows, and the SyFy channel slaughtered more than a few of its better sci-fi programs in spite of enthusiastic (if small) fan bases in a desirable demographic, and the potential for shows to have done better with just a little more support from the networks. Just a small sample of the shows I recall getting clobbered by getting buried in "Graveyard Time Slots", pre-empted at the drop of a hat, rescheduled to mystery time slots without warning, subjected to brutal budget cuts and self-destructive executive interference (often taking the form of "science fiction is kiddie stuff, and doesn't need a budget or intelligent stories!"), and other such abuse include: - The original 'Lost in Space' (destroyed by budget cuts and increasingly juvenile story elements) - The original 'Doctor Who' (destroyed by budget cuts and misguided story elements forced by BBC) - 'Millennium' (screwed by FOX with scheduling shenanigans and executive meddling, when this darker-and-edgier "sister program" to 'The X-Files' failed to attract the other program's huge audience) - 'Firefly' (famous for being killed off by the network in spite of fan support) - 'Babylon 5' (struggled with on-again-off-again network support leaving its originally-planned 5-year story arcs in constant doubt) - 'Dark Matter' (killed off by SyFy for internal reasons in spite of fan support) - 'Space: Above and Beyond' (killed off by network scheduling and budgeting shenanigans) ...and that's just a sample. In FOX's case, it seems like there were the conflicting pressures of an executive team that hated sci-fi to begin with, struggling against the pressure to conjure up a show with immediate success comparable to that built up by 'The X-Files' over years, and the depressing fact that it costs much less to produce "reality" programming than it does to conjure up the special effects and story development budgets for sci-fi programming. The BBC was in a similar situation with the original 'Doctor Who' and 'Lost in Space': network "suits" hated or didn't understand the genre, and wanted to aim a virtually budget-less program at what was assumed to be a juvenile audience that would buy anything with space ships and aliens in it. The SyFy Channel's problems with 'Dark Matter' appear to have been dissatisfaction at the (creator-controlled) show's relative success compared to SyFy's own in-house programming, with 'Dark Matter' being replaced by a wrestling show of all things (which failed to draw any audience on SyFy!) In general, genre programming runs into "cut off one's nose to spite one's face" kind of reaction from The Business; there's a lack of respect for genre programming in the network business, which doesn't mix well with the expense involved in creating a good sci-fi program compared to alternatives like "reality" programming. I've a feeling NBC would have killed 'Star Trek' off even if it had understood the show's demographic better! They seemed pretty relieved to have gotten rid of it, even after their competitors were surprising themselves by making bank with it in syndication....
there was a animated original Star Trek series as well btw, starring the original cast. It only had like one season, and the animation was pretty low tier. But still worth watching if you love the show. They could explore some stuff they could not do with live actors since it was animated
I'm sure most trek fans are aware of the fan film series Star Trek: Continues. imo, the best trek fan film series I've seen. Apart from the bridge and ship were built from the original blueprints, but the acting is really good. We even get Scott's real son playing Scotty. It starts exactly where season 3 ended on TV. Very enjoyable watch.
"Star Trek Continues" should have been picked up by cable or one of the networks. It is top shelf Star Trek, from the sets to the stories to the actors to the special effects. That it was fan-made is unbelievable. That there were only 11 episodes made is extremely saddening.
My only beef with STC as a lifelong Trekker since 70s, is they didn't account for Tas events. Placing Stc as if it would have premiered fall of 69 and within weeks or months since Turnabout Intruder in Trek time, doesn't allow enough leeway for Tas to occur between Turnabout and Stc ep1. Tas was considered to be picking up where Tos left off, continuing the Tos 5 year mission, with no more time between tos and tas than between Tos seasons, ie weeks or months. There was no question Tas was canon during its run, and I consider it such to this day.
I was part of the letter-writing campaign to save Trek, along with a similar campaign to rename the first shuttle the Enterprise. I still have a personal letter thank you letter from Bjo Trimble.
James Cawley's Star Trek New Voyages (Phase II) kind of covered the remaining years of the '5 year mission' as a fan series, but ultimately Paramount pulled the plug on allowing longer fan-made shows. This fan series had a lot of input and involvement from TOS original cast and crew, and even had some eps from scripts that were never produced by Gene Roddenberry. Think the Cawley-made show was one of the better efforts as far as fan-made material went.
I have to agree. At first I was put off by the same things that I hear mentioned by most people who see it: it causes anxiety when you're hearing somebody say the names of Kirk and Bones, followed by you seeing that responding actors clearly aren't Shatner or Kelley and the quality of the (at that time) modern camera exposing all of the seams and painted cardboard sets that were hidden by the low fidelity limitations of the old cameras that were used when the show was first aired are two issues that immediately come to mind. However, once I grew accustomed to these changes and could approach the story on fair terms, I discovered that it was actually good stuff. Even if a viewer can't go as far I have in saying that it's "good", one absolutely cannot deny that it's Trek. It captures that Trek feel and manages to Trek all over that small screen just like the big boys used to do. As much as I appreciate TAS and absolutely consider it to be season 4 of the original 5 year mission, there is room in my head canon to accommodate the lore that added by New Voyages as beta content.
Good video, but FYI you have the wrong actor pictured instead of David Gautreaux at 10:06. You have Judson Scott pictured instead, who is from Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan.
We had a very old movie 🍿 theater 🎭 in Northern New Jersey in the 80’s, went back to the 1930’s. Some reason every summer they would play Star Trek The Motion Picture over and over and over again I loved ❤it cause ticket 🎟️ was cheap for my Mom, Food was good, place was air conditioned 💨 I memorized every line from that film 🎞️ Simpler time and I never got bored caused it was fun and I spent time with those I love ❤ RIP Mom & Dad Wonderful Memories
Literally just watched a video of the original Enterprise model at the Smithsonian (on Adam Savage's channel) then this showed up! Always enjoy watching your work!
Interesting fact about the episode THE CHILD. It was written after an episode of SPACE: 1999 called ALPHA CHILD was aired and both episodes have similar story elements.
Yes, Judson Scott played Joachim, Khan's right-hand man on the Reliant (Star Trek II). David Gautreaux actually appears in Star Trek: The Motion Picture as Commander Branch, the man in charge of the Epsilon 9 listening post. I'm glad that they included him in the movie, since Phase II fizzled out.
I was a young kid in the early 80's. We watched Star Trek every time it was on. And even my own kid watches old Star Trek, yeah its old but it is interesting and provides plenty of brain food
In addition to a new Star Trek series to anchor UPN in the 90s, that happened again when CBS, holding the IP rights, launched “CBS All Access” as a streaming service, with Star Trek: Discovery as a show exclusive to the service. Other new Trek shows soon followed, and “CBS All Access” rebranded to “Paramount+” when CBS and Paramount merged, bringing Star Trek IP ownership back to Paramount.
Man, that was great info. I never knew that Shatner had to live in a camper and that Nimoy would hang up the phone when contacted for casting Spock. Also, fans were mad about them replacing Spock and threating to kill off his replacement - WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all going to make great conversation over the next couple of days. Thanks for Sharing!
The Star Trek animated series was the jewel. As the special effects to launch those episodes did not exist in the late 60s, they produced a cartoon series with the original cast doing the voice overs. Some of those episodes were amazing. It was available as a DVD set years ago.
the stories were great, but the animation was done on the cheap. I was 13 when it came out and was used to warner brothers cartoons and this thing seemed so stiff and cheap but they were all the original voices, which shows what could have been. I will never forget the next year just expecting it to be back on, and it wasn't. I thought this must be a mistake, it will be on next week, nope, it was cancelled. It won like best animated series then was cancelled.
I was just a bit too young to remember the animated series when it was new - most of my cartoon-watching was back in the late '70s and early '80s, when cheap animation was pretty much normal on Saturday mornings! (See most Hanna-Barberra programming available at the time....) So, the animation never bothered me. But, the fact that there weren't many episodes of it, combined with the fact that it only rarely turned up in programming in my day, meant that it was a weird sort of situation of vaguely remembering a couple episodes of "that weird Star Trek cartoon" turning up among our Saturday Morning Cartoon watching somewhere in a random soup of disjointed programming that might have included "Star Blazers", "Rocky and Bullwinkle", "Wonder Woman", "Speed Racer", "Laugh-O-Lympics", the "Three Stooges" cartoon, "Captain Caveman", "Ultra-Man", "The Electric Company", the "Bugs Bunny and Road-Runner" show, "Lost in Space", "The Muppet Show", "The Bowery Boys", "Japanese Spiderman", "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", "Popeye", "Space: 1999", "The Green Hornet", "Space Ghost", "Woody Woodpecker", some strange '60s cartoon show that kind of randomly featured Namor the Sub-Mariner or the Incredible Hulk or Thor or the Fantastic Four with minimalist animation, "Jonny Quest", Godzilla movies, "Three Stooges" shorts, "Super-Friends", Hammer horror movies, or pretty much anything and everything else our local TV station happened to have available and felt like showing that weekend. The TV Guide may or may not have given you an accurate idea of whatever was scheduled for that Saturday morning, so you just woke up, turned on the TV, and watched whatever the hell came on, in vague confusion enhanced by a sugary breakfast cereal rush and a blur of loud commecial ads. With 20/20 hindsight, there was a vaguely psychedelic quality to the whole experience, and I can't help thinking the target audience was as much former-hippies as it was their children. Really, it was a strange time to watch TV!
There was a new magazine released in the early 70s called STARLOG . It started as a STAR TREK fan magazine , until STAR WARS became a worldwide hit . Then it became a science fiction magazine . Anyway , I think it was made to help with the release of the PHASE 2 series . From what I remember reading , the new series would have a new cast and a different objective : being more about the Federation and it's politics instead of just being about the USS Enterprise and crew .
Leonard Nimoy had to have possessed great discipline to keep from cracking a smile when popping up in a Carol Burnett skit. I can understand how Nimoy didn’t want to be type cast, but looking back now, Nimoy’s Spock had one of the most positive impacts on generation after generation. Same with Shatner’s Kirk. But they really did get screwed over in multiple avenues. Yeah, who would know in 1966 how much of a phenomenon Star Trek would become, but…
I didn't learn anything new, but that's because I'm a super informed nut. The video itself seemed well researched and over accurate and pretty well made. Nice job! 😅
Well history repeats itself as Paramount will again come out with their own network. This time a streaming service, and they had Star Trek Discovery to lead it
@@Bulletsandblockbusters was on here already looking to do shorts just learning but mine will have a puzzle contest in the shorts with steam keys lol like hidden in them trying to see if it can and if anybody ever do it
@@Bulletsandblockbusters like say i take a cut of say 1 of your episodes right 60 secs steam keys are 3 sets of letters and numbers find a way to use the background like here when it say star trek in the back may the first set has a R in the key hide numbers then in comments leave link to episode do 3 parts for each game keys and this way i wont steal peoples memes just saying
Even though I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan by any means I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond this is still an incredibly cool what if and it definitely would have been interesting to see what trejectory the franchise would have gone if Star Trek Phase 2 released instead of Star Trek The Motion Picture
Hard to believe that a show could run without paying the actors residuals. That would be discouraging I am sure. Shatner and Nimoy had appearances in other things prior to Star Trek which showed they had the talents they brought to the roles they made huge. People loved all the characters, Interesting theat Captain Spock and Captain Kirk were both at that rank on the bridge at the end and poor Ensign Kim could not get promoted that whole time on Voyager. lol
I loved this series! I have the whole first season on HD-DVD after wearing out my Betamax tapes and I remember playing the video game on the Sega Pluto. "Kitumba" is amazing to watch on my 70" rear projection TV and the commentary by cast and crew was fascinating to hear what they had planned for in Season 2. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
The idea of a "4th Network" was in many ways inevitable, but it was another decade after Paramount's failure to launch before FOX managed to pull it off - and even then their first few years were *rough*. It is entirely likely that, between the economy at the time, and Paramount's inconsistent leadership and lack of courage, that Star Trek Phase II would have gotten only one or two anemic seasons before being cancelled - again - and we would have never gotten the movies... or Next Generation... or Deep Space Nine... or ... you get the picture. Or, more accurately, not.
Good video but I will disagree a little on the ratings of TOS as it always had strong ratings, it was usually #2 in its timeslot and had a lot of viewers. But as noted elsewhere, they didn't really look at a breakdown of the demographics and was more generalized and Trek didn't appeal to the older crowd who were watching other shows. That's why it did so well in syndication, a younger audience who didn't get a chance to see it because their parents didn't want to watch it now could. But the ratings were still good when it was on the air, it wouldn't have been cancelled if the show had cost less like many of the other shows at the time.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters fair enough, studios tend to ignore things like that if it doesn't match up with what they want. Makes you wonder how many shows were like that and could have been big successes but got canned by the studo for "reasons".
In fact, _Star Trek's_ biggest problem was that NBC execs didn't like it. They didn't understand it, thought it was silly and felt that a "science-fiction" series hurt the network's prestige. This is why they deliberately shifted it to the worst time-slots. The show was literally being sabotaged by them...
MOST-DETAILED video I've yet seen on the subject (and as a life-long Trekkie, I've watched a LOT!) - with the most relevant footage, interviews with cast and crew, context, ramifications, etc.! VERY well-done! LLAP! ;-)
I really love the episode Devil's Due. I think it's because at the time it first aired I was just realizing that I believe the idea of religions and gods to be ridiculous
i got my mom back in i think 86 from a comic convention here in nyc the og bloopers VCR tape right around the time when somebody found REELS at paramount in the trash man real bad transfer from original reels in the trash lol my mom may still have it somewhere lol has messed up commercials someone says in color on NBC but buts in black and white and upside down stupid stuff like that doors not sliding lucy ball in there
The triangular Enterprise drawings were a reality already. On the show Fireball XL-5 in the episode "Invasion Earth" the alien invaders flew ships like the one in the drawing.
i will never forget reading an article that both shatner and nimoy signed to do the series. It was going to happen! then, it didn't. So sad and I have often thought I'd rather have 3 seasons of 24 episodes with all of the original cast that maybe wasn't the best thing out there, than a few movies that happened later of which only half were really good and they were all much older. They got greedy when they saw the success of star wars and thought they could duplicate it. So we got the long boring Vger movie
It would be fun to listen to a rundown of all the scripts. I read them long ago but I would definitely like to hear your thoughts on them Ever since I found out about this project I've wished I could see the alternate universe where it happened. I used to imagine a future where photorealistic CGI would become widely available and you could effectively replicate actors' voices and mannerisms to create a version of what things might have been like. Like Phase II, for example. I think it's inevitable that will be realized in our lifetime so maybe someday someone will use AI and 3D modeling software to recreate something like what we could have gotten Also, you might be interested to know that there's kind of a version of the Captain Pike series we never got (SNW notwithstanding) in the comics. It's called Star Trek: Early Voyages. There's also another second five year mission in the comics. It's called Star Trek: Untold Voyages. It's set between The Motion Picture and The Wrath Of Khan. It's obviously very different but worth reading, I think. Then there's a daily newspaper strip whose events are set around the time of The Motion Picture. Those are fun. I like those a lot
That’s awesome. I’ll check it out. I know fans have remade some of the phase 2 scripts online which you can find on TH-cam. The whole show is definitely an interesting what if. Would’ve changed history for sure.
This concept and characters wouldn't be a bad way to soft-reboot the Kelvin series. Could keep Pine and deliver on the promise of the '09 film, familiar characters in different scenarios.
The network execs were probably pissed because of the letter writing campaign proving their "insight" about Trek being wrong. It was probably also ego driven. They probably thought, "who are these people and what do they know? We're network executives!"
There really is something special with the Star Trek universe!🔥 J.J abrams trilogy is just awesome! Could you do ”what could have been World War Z 2?”🎬😄
@@RichardM-kv4uu Speaking as a long-time fan of Star Trek since obsessively watching TNG reruns as a kid in the 90s, I respectfully disagree with your dour opinion.
Interesting bit of trivia: the tv ad announcing Trek's move to Friday nights uses the same font that would later be used in the 1980s for titles of Trek novels published by Pocket Books.
The 1st Star Trek film was not good. It was just an extended copy of the Changeling. I did watch it and to be fair compared to Discovery it's a masterpiece. Then again a frozen turd is more appealing than Discovery
For Star Trek fans the first movie was a huge disappointment. For some reason they thought special effects were more important. A good story might have made it the highest grossing film of all time. I didn’t go see the 2nd even though reviews were good .
I cant help but think this show not being produced in favour of the movies was the best choice, mainly because i dont think star trek could survive another project helmed entirely by roddenberry, the newer blood injected by the movies i feel helped with keeping star trek relevant
i think the UPN merged with the WB to make the CW, but Paramount never put a star trek show on the CW, and they were going to have a new star trek tv show on cbs a year or two ago, but they wanted people to pay to watch it, on something called Cbs all access, and that morphed into the first? streaming service, made by a tv station. and the streaming wars then started. which left regular tv to rot, as all the attention was put on tv shows made for the streaming services.
I already knew about this the first season of Phase 2 would have consisted of 13 episodes and the series at least the first season would have omitted Spock from the cast as Leonard Nimoy declined to star in another TV series and had issues with the scripts. The story treatments are on Wikipedia and have been released to the public and a few of them have been repurposed in other Star Trek media such as TNG the series was ultimately converted into a full length theatrical film (1979) after the success of Star Wars (1977) two years previously with Nimoy on board as Spock unlike for the unmade TV revival.
Interesting how Leonard Nemoy never wanted to be associated with Star Trek only to him later having him direct 2 Star Trek movies. Also Shatner hating on his fans "get a life" for him ultimately loving what he does/done and being the one and only Captain Kirk.
Don't worry, within 10 years we'll have phase II 5 year adventures with Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly, Nichols, Koenig, Doohan, Takei recreated using AI with human oversight.
I wished one day they could maybe use Ai to create 3D characters in sets, having sampled everything an actor has ever said on film to say the script lines … bringing back Leonard Nimoy, Deforrest Kelly etc for the Animated Series and maybe carry on where TOS left off “phase 2” … filling in timeline to The Motion Picture 🙏 … yeah, pay royalties to families for use of these legends voices and images if need be, but hopefully just keeping these legends alive though the proper use of Ai, would be a sufficient nod to their careers.
@Mckowski101 - It need not be animated as Deep Fake technology, voice as well as video, is already reached the point of fooling us. The young Harrison Ford recreation in the recent Indiana Jones movie was amazing, and that's only the beginning. Before long we'll be watching all of our favorite old long-gone actors/characters back on screen again. This time they'll be youthful again and appearing in brand new episodes. And it won't be just onscreen, soon AI technology will allow the creation of exact android copies of our favorite people in the form of androids. William Shatner envisioned this in his excellent science fiction novel called _Tech War_ back in 1989. He was very prophetic as many of the futuristic things in the book have already come to pass.
The problem is that it wouldn't stop there. Back in 1992, TV ads used doctored clips of Humphrey Bogart and Jimmy Cagney to sell Diet Coke - They only stopped because of the immediate, extensive backlash from the public. If you think they won't be using AI images of dead celebrities to push products, ideologies and political candidates you're being naive. Do you really want to see Nimoy promoting "Drag" shows, or Shatner making threats about a "climate crisis"? Btw, if you do, don't tell me....
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Hey Bullets and Blockbusters You Should
Do A Halloween Episode Of What Could Have Been
Called Freddy vs Jason vs Ash A Sequel
To Freddy vs Jason That Almost Happened.
@@horrorandmonsterfan952 I'm definitely going to do a couple halloween themed videos this year come October!
Actually something you should look in to were the post Voyager concepts as the star fleet academy which has kinda become Prodigy, along with the time travel series and even a post Nemesis Animated Star Trek Series are all tantalising as Alien3's Wooden Planet script.
I'm more interested in knowing more about the deep fakes of the Phase II Enterprise in the drydock images as I know those photos well and I know that the Phase II Enterprise was never fully completed to the point those deep fakes show.
Allegedly, Robert Able took the model, along with its molds, completed the model, but to more closely match the final TMP version as well as make additional models from the molds for use at Planet Hollywood, among other venues.
George Lucas' abandoned live action Star Wars tv series "Underworld" is something I'd love to see a video on!
I love the letter writing camapaign.. Snyder cut fans thought they pulled off a miracle but doing it with no internet is a legendary move.
Agreed. She went into the paramount mail room and stole addresses. Pretty ballsy
And now we need a new letter writing campaign for 'Stra Trek: Prodigy'. There is an online petition to save the show. I grew up with and adored TOS, loved TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and I think Prodigy is as good as them and needs to be saved.
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10:05 not Gatreux but Judson Scott as Joachim In Wrath of Khan!!!
I wonder what the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been like If It did happen In the 1970's ?! I do agree with the Star Trek Phase II TV series Executive Producers that the Star Trek Phase II TV series would have been difficult to make If Actor: Leonard Nimoy had refused to repise his role of Mr. Spock In the TV series. That would been awkward and It would have been very difficult to resolve. I might NOT have liked the Star Trek Phase II Vulcan Character of Xon portrayed by Actor: David Gautereux. I think It might have been a good idea to abandon the Ideas for Star Trek Phase II In favor of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Movie. At least the whole original cast was able reunite for the Star Trek: TOS movies.
If you want to know what Phase II would have been like just watch the first season of TNG.
Thank you for your Recommendation !
Star Trek Phase II a series was eventually produced with one season of 10 episodes between 2004 and 2016.
This is completely fascinating
omg Star Trek and I have the same birthday!
Awesome breakdown and I didn't realize Shatner had the same issues that Nimoy had with the finances from the Network. Though I want to say Nimoy's refusal to sign on to more Star Trek was because he was bitter about being recognized only as Spock and that grew as he found out the studio was making a killing using his likeness without his permission which led to the lawsuit. In fact it was the studio needing Spock that caused the suit to be settled and Nimoy not only getting back pay but I believe gave him the contract that allowed him to direct later Star Trek 3 and 4.
Thanks and you’re 100% right
Funny how some of these problems between the networks and writers/actors being paid fairly have resurfaced with the recent strike.
Check out fan-made Star Trek going far back as 2002! iamgermane.blogspot.com/2014/06/new-star-trek-fan-made-episodes.html
Also explains some of the awful movies Shatner was in.
@@markenetube Seen Shatner's "Promise Butter" commercials from the early 1970s?
Shortly after Star Trek went of the air, the Neilson Ratings system added demographics. While the raw numbers were not great, the demographic numbers (in the highly desirable 20-40 range), were very good. If the ratings were calculated using demographics, NBC would have certainly given us a 4th season.
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Sadly with budget cuts and a foccus on the demo watching it, would of probably been bad trek
No telling what NBC might have done - it sounded like they were pretty much dead-set on getting rid of the show. Seems like there's always been a lot of that going around: FOX had a tendency to launch and then kill its own sci-fi shows, and the SyFy channel slaughtered more than a few of its better sci-fi programs in spite of enthusiastic (if small) fan bases in a desirable demographic, and the potential for shows to have done better with just a little more support from the networks. Just a small sample of the shows I recall getting clobbered by getting buried in "Graveyard Time Slots", pre-empted at the drop of a hat, rescheduled to mystery time slots without warning, subjected to brutal budget cuts and self-destructive executive interference (often taking the form of "science fiction is kiddie stuff, and doesn't need a budget or intelligent stories!"), and other such abuse include:
- The original 'Lost in Space' (destroyed by budget cuts and increasingly juvenile story elements)
- The original 'Doctor Who' (destroyed by budget cuts and misguided story elements forced by BBC)
- 'Millennium' (screwed by FOX with scheduling shenanigans and executive meddling, when this darker-and-edgier "sister program" to 'The X-Files' failed to attract the other program's huge audience)
- 'Firefly' (famous for being killed off by the network in spite of fan support)
- 'Babylon 5' (struggled with on-again-off-again network support leaving its originally-planned 5-year story arcs in constant doubt)
- 'Dark Matter' (killed off by SyFy for internal reasons in spite of fan support)
- 'Space: Above and Beyond' (killed off by network scheduling and budgeting shenanigans)
...and that's just a sample.
In FOX's case, it seems like there were the conflicting pressures of an executive team that hated sci-fi to begin with, struggling against the pressure to conjure up a show with immediate success comparable to that built up by 'The X-Files' over years, and the depressing fact that it costs much less to produce "reality" programming than it does to conjure up the special effects and story development budgets for sci-fi programming. The BBC was in a similar situation with the original 'Doctor Who' and 'Lost in Space': network "suits" hated or didn't understand the genre, and wanted to aim a virtually budget-less program at what was assumed to be a juvenile audience that would buy anything with space ships and aliens in it. The SyFy Channel's problems with 'Dark Matter' appear to have been dissatisfaction at the (creator-controlled) show's relative success compared to SyFy's own in-house programming, with 'Dark Matter' being replaced by a wrestling show of all things (which failed to draw any audience on SyFy!)
In general, genre programming runs into "cut off one's nose to spite one's face" kind of reaction from The Business; there's a lack of respect for genre programming in the network business, which doesn't mix well with the expense involved in creating a good sci-fi program compared to alternatives like "reality" programming.
I've a feeling NBC would have killed 'Star Trek' off even if it had understood the show's demographic better! They seemed pretty relieved to have gotten rid of it, even after their competitors were surprising themselves by making bank with it in syndication....
It would be really cool if they took these scripts and made a retro style animated series based on them, that would be really interesting to watch
There’s a live action fan series on TH-cam
there was a animated original Star Trek series as well btw, starring the original cast. It only had like one season, and the animation was pretty low tier. But still worth watching if you love the show. They could explore some stuff they could not do with live actors since it was animated
I think most of the scripts were used in TNG weren't they?
Two were
@@mkohanekadmittedly, if the animated series had included elements of Phase II, that would've made it pretty interesting
I'm sure most trek fans are aware of the fan film series Star Trek: Continues. imo, the best trek fan film series I've seen. Apart from the bridge and ship were built from the original blueprints, but the acting is really good. We even get Scott's real son playing Scotty. It starts exactly where season 3 ended on TV. Very enjoyable watch.
And the best is: the DVDs and Blurays are for free to download.
STC really has that TOS vibe, too.
May be time for a re-watch!
"Star Trek Continues" should have been picked up by cable or one of the networks. It is top shelf Star Trek, from the sets to the stories to the actors to the special effects. That it was fan-made is unbelievable. That there were only 11 episodes made is extremely saddening.
Love STC!
Made by people who really Love Trek,
not just to make money off it.
My only beef with STC as a lifelong Trekker since 70s, is they didn't account for Tas events.
Placing Stc as if it would have premiered fall of 69 and within weeks or months since Turnabout Intruder in Trek time, doesn't allow enough leeway for Tas to occur between Turnabout and Stc ep1.
Tas was considered to be picking up where Tos left off, continuing the Tos 5 year mission, with no more time between tos and tas than between Tos seasons, ie weeks or months. There was no question Tas was canon during its run, and I consider it such to this day.
I was part of the letter-writing campaign to save Trek, along with a similar campaign to rename the first shuttle the Enterprise. I still have a personal letter thank you letter from Bjo Trimble.
That’s awesome. And thank you :)
James Cawley's Star Trek New Voyages (Phase II) kind of covered the remaining years of the '5 year mission' as a fan series, but ultimately Paramount pulled the plug on allowing longer fan-made shows. This fan series had a lot of input and involvement from TOS original cast and crew, and even had some eps from scripts that were never produced by Gene Roddenberry. Think the Cawley-made show was one of the better efforts as far as fan-made material went.
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I have to agree. At first I was put off by the same things that I hear mentioned by most people who see it: it causes anxiety when you're hearing somebody say the names of Kirk and Bones, followed by you seeing that responding actors clearly aren't Shatner or Kelley and the quality of the (at that time) modern camera exposing all of the seams and painted cardboard sets that were hidden by the low fidelity limitations of the old cameras that were used when the show was first aired are two issues that immediately come to mind. However, once I grew accustomed to these changes and could approach the story on fair terms, I discovered that it was actually good stuff. Even if a viewer can't go as far I have in saying that it's "good", one absolutely cannot deny that it's Trek. It captures that Trek feel and manages to Trek all over that small screen just like the big boys used to do. As much as I appreciate TAS and absolutely consider it to be season 4 of the original 5 year mission, there is room in my head canon to accommodate the lore that added by New Voyages as beta content.
Good video, but FYI you have the wrong actor pictured instead of David Gautreaux at 10:06. You have Judson Scott pictured instead, who is from Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan.
Thanks! And I know. I didn't realize until after I uploaded it. Oh well.
We had a very old movie 🍿 theater 🎭 in Northern New Jersey in the 80’s, went back to the 1930’s. Some reason every summer they would play Star Trek The Motion Picture over and over and over again
I loved ❤it cause ticket 🎟️ was cheap for my Mom, Food was good, place was air conditioned 💨
I memorized every line from that film 🎞️
Simpler time and I never got bored caused it was fun and I spent time with those I love ❤
RIP Mom & Dad
Wonderful Memories
We had the RKO Keith's in Flushing ✨️
@@paisleybabee I know the place
@@zcorpalpha2462 sadly gutted in the late 80s 😔❤️
@@paisleybabee Always have that beautiful innocent memory
@zcorpalpha2462 thank you ❤️
Uncover what happened with JOSH TRANK'S FANT4STIC FOUR (2015) or ROGER CORMAN'S FANTASTIC FOUR (1994)
Wow Hollywood is good at low balling actors.
Yup. I feel bad for them. And then when shatner and nimoy asked for a raise after the fourth movie, paramount went ahead with tng to replace them.
That's why there's a writer's and actors strike going on right now!
Yup
Literally just watched a video of the original Enterprise model at the Smithsonian (on Adam Savage's channel) then this showed up! Always enjoy watching your work!
Very cool! I’m gonna check that out. Thanks!
You have a good taste in TH-cam.
11:24 I really thought you were gonna say that Riker was the sex-positive character
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NBC has never been good at understanding their customers wants and needs.
That explains quite a lot....
Had been waiting for this video for a bit, phase 2 is such a weird what if but I think in the end it all worked out for Star Trek as a whole
Agreed!
Interesting fact about the episode THE CHILD. It was written after an episode of SPACE: 1999 called ALPHA CHILD was aired and both episodes have similar story elements.
Interesting. Thnx for sharing!
1999 also had a shape-changer crew member before DS9.
The headshot at 10:05 is Judson Scott who was in Star Trek II, not David Gautreaux.
Nice catch! They look identical haha
Yes, Judson Scott played Joachim, Khan's right-hand man on the Reliant (Star Trek II). David Gautreaux actually appears in Star Trek: The Motion Picture as Commander Branch, the man in charge of the Epsilon 9 listening post. I'm glad that they included him in the movie, since Phase II fizzled out.
Judson Scott who was also lieutenant James in V the series
@@Andyssea and as Knight One in the first season of Babylon 5.
At 2:48 That’s John Belushi and Chevy Chase, who weren’t exactly in TOS, or any of the franchise.
WHAT WE SEE OF DAVID GAUTREAUX AS XON IS GREAT -- HE WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT.
What a shame they couldn't make Star Trek phase II work. To quote a famous Klingon Commander, "It would have been glorious!". 😉😸
I was a young kid in the early 80's. We watched Star Trek every time it was on. And even my own kid watches old Star Trek, yeah its old but it is interesting and provides plenty of brain food
In addition to a new Star Trek series to anchor UPN in the 90s, that happened again when CBS, holding the IP rights, launched “CBS All Access” as a streaming service, with Star Trek: Discovery as a show exclusive to the service. Other new Trek shows soon followed, and “CBS All Access” rebranded to “Paramount+” when CBS and Paramount merged, bringing Star Trek IP ownership back to Paramount.
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Man, that was great info. I never knew that Shatner had to live in a camper and that Nimoy would hang up the phone when contacted for casting Spock. Also, fans were mad about them replacing Spock and threating to kill off his replacement - WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all going to make great conversation over the next couple of days. Thanks for Sharing!
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it
The Star Trek animated series was the jewel. As the special effects to launch those episodes did not exist in the late 60s, they produced a cartoon series with the original cast doing the voice overs. Some of those episodes were amazing. It was available as a DVD set years ago.
the stories were great, but the animation was done on the cheap. I was 13 when it came out and was used to warner brothers cartoons and this thing seemed so stiff and cheap but they were all the original voices, which shows what could have been. I will never forget the next year just expecting it to be back on, and it wasn't. I thought this must be a mistake, it will be on next week, nope, it was cancelled. It won like best animated series then was cancelled.
I was just a bit too young to remember the animated series when it was new - most of my cartoon-watching was back in the late '70s and early '80s, when cheap animation was pretty much normal on Saturday mornings! (See most Hanna-Barberra programming available at the time....) So, the animation never bothered me.
But, the fact that there weren't many episodes of it, combined with the fact that it only rarely turned up in programming in my day, meant that it was a weird sort of situation of vaguely remembering a couple episodes of "that weird Star Trek cartoon" turning up among our Saturday Morning Cartoon watching somewhere in a random soup of disjointed programming that might have included "Star Blazers", "Rocky and Bullwinkle", "Wonder Woman", "Speed Racer", "Laugh-O-Lympics", the "Three Stooges" cartoon, "Captain Caveman", "Ultra-Man", "The Electric Company", the "Bugs Bunny and Road-Runner" show, "Lost in Space", "The Muppet Show", "The Bowery Boys", "Japanese Spiderman", "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", "Popeye", "Space: 1999", "The Green Hornet", "Space Ghost", "Woody Woodpecker", some strange '60s cartoon show that kind of randomly featured Namor the Sub-Mariner or the Incredible Hulk or Thor or the Fantastic Four with minimalist animation, "Jonny Quest", Godzilla movies, "Three Stooges" shorts, "Super-Friends", Hammer horror movies, or pretty much anything and everything else our local TV station happened to have available and felt like showing that weekend.
The TV Guide may or may not have given you an accurate idea of whatever was scheduled for that Saturday morning, so you just woke up, turned on the TV, and watched whatever the hell came on, in vague confusion enhanced by a sugary breakfast cereal rush and a blur of loud commecial ads.
With 20/20 hindsight, there was a vaguely psychedelic quality to the whole experience, and I can't help thinking the target audience was as much former-hippies as it was their children.
Really, it was a strange time to watch TV!
I remember the animated series, but not too fondly. It was cheaply done.
There was a new magazine released in the early 70s called STARLOG . It started as a STAR TREK fan magazine , until STAR WARS became a worldwide hit . Then it became a science fiction magazine . Anyway , I think it was made to help with the release of the PHASE 2 series . From what I remember reading , the new series would have a new cast and a different objective : being more about the Federation and it's politics instead of just being about the USS Enterprise and crew .
Leonard Nimoy had to have possessed great discipline to keep from cracking a smile when popping up in a Carol Burnett skit. I can understand how Nimoy didn’t want to be type cast, but looking back now, Nimoy’s Spock had one of the most positive impacts on generation after generation. Same with Shatner’s Kirk. But they really did get screwed over in multiple avenues. Yeah, who would know in 1966 how much of a phenomenon Star Trek would become, but…
William Shatner is 93 and still seems to have all his marbles. Kudos to him. Pity they can't have him guest on one of the "woke trek" shows.
This is the best video I’ve seen on this subject, really good work.
Wow, thanks!
This should have been longer.
Make a part 2, please
Your Star Trek videos never disappoint! Happy Star Trek day! (Have any teasers for next video?)
Thanks! Haven’t decided yet. Need a day off first haha
The Motion Picture sucked balls, and too bad Phase 2 TV Star Trek did not make it back on the small screen.
I didn't learn anything new, but that's because I'm a super informed nut. The video itself seemed well researched and over accurate and pretty well made. Nice job! 😅
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
You got David Gautreaux mixed up with Judson Scott at 10:05.
I know :(
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Still a great video though. Very insightful. Gave it a like and a share.
Thank you my friend!
Well history repeats itself as Paramount will again come out with their own network. This time a streaming service, and they had Star Trek Discovery to lead it
Great point
With a ship that looks at least a bit similar to the McQuarrie concept drawings.
Once again utterly screwing it up
Star Trek phase 2 and Star Trek continues is 100 times better than anything Alex Kurtzman, or JJ Abrams has put out.
Not better than Strange New Worlds (though I did really enjoy both of those fan-made series).
I honestly wouldn't mind an animated version of this shoe, between tos s3 and the motion picture
There’s a fan version on TH-cam: new voyages
That is called Star Trek: The Animated Series, FWIW.
@@JoshuaMPattontrue, and though the animation is quite stiff, the stories are decent, particularly Yesteryear
first lol got a cold cherry Pepsi new episode thank you boss man been waiting for a new 1
Wow that was fast haha
@@Bulletsandblockbusters was on here already looking to do shorts just learning but mine will have a puzzle contest in the shorts with steam keys lol like hidden in them trying to see if it can and if anybody ever do it
That’s awesome. I look forward to it
@@Bulletsandblockbusters like say i take a cut of say 1 of your episodes right 60 secs steam keys are 3 sets of letters and numbers find a way to use the background like here when it say star trek in the back may the first set has a R in the key hide numbers then in comments leave link to episode do 3 parts for each game keys and this way i wont steal peoples memes just saying
@@johnaraya3761 Do what you like :)
The mini dress and go go boot uniforms still look good. 😂
Photo is not of David Gatreaux, but Judson Scott - Khan's henchman Joachim from The Wrath of Khan
Even though I'm not the biggest Star Trek fan by any means I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond this is still an incredibly cool what if and it definitely would have been interesting to see what trejectory the franchise would have gone if Star Trek Phase 2 released instead of Star Trek The Motion Picture
100% definitely an alternate timeline if made. And imagine it gets cancelled too. Wonder if the movies ever happen.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters I know right definitely a crazy alternate timeline lol
"I've only seen the 2009 Star Trek movie, Star Trek Into Darkness and Star Trek Beyond"
Picard, his face in his hands
Are the scripts for the first 13 episodes public? I'd actually like to read them if they are.
A bunch are or you can check out the fan series on TH-cam called new voyages that recreates them
@@Bulletsandblockbusters That was James Cawley's series, right? I've seen them. I don't think they were based on Phase 2 scripts, though.
I haven’t seen a lot of them but I think they adapted at least a few
There's also the fan series:Star Trek Continues,which is very good.
Hard to believe that a show could run without paying the actors residuals. That would be discouraging I am sure. Shatner and Nimoy had appearances in other things prior to Star Trek which showed they had the talents they brought to the roles they made huge. People loved all the characters, Interesting theat Captain Spock and Captain Kirk were both at that rank on the bridge at the end and poor Ensign Kim could not get promoted that whole time on Voyager. lol
I loved this series! I have the whole first season on HD-DVD after wearing out my Betamax tapes and I remember playing the video game on the Sega Pluto. "Kitumba" is amazing to watch on my 70" rear projection TV and the commentary by cast and crew was fascinating to hear what they had planned for in Season 2. Thanks for the walk down memory lane!
That's awesome! My pleasure
@somebuddyX - where did you see this aired at please? Would love to see this in it's entirety!! Thanks!!
5:48 this is not footage of any Star Trek tv show that wasn’t made. It’s from an ABC movie of the week starring William Shatner. Look it up.
But look how long Blue Bloods have lasted in the 10 O'clock time slot . They have go e twelve seasons so far!!!!!
The idea of a "4th Network" was in many ways inevitable, but it was another decade after Paramount's failure to launch before FOX managed to pull it off - and even then their first few years were *rough*. It is entirely likely that, between the economy at the time, and Paramount's inconsistent leadership and lack of courage, that Star Trek Phase II would have gotten only one or two anemic seasons before being cancelled - again - and we would have never gotten the movies... or Next Generation... or Deep Space Nine... or ... you get the picture. Or, more accurately, not.
Well said. Interestingly fox grew out of the failed paramount network.
Good video but I will disagree a little on the ratings of TOS as it always had strong ratings, it was usually #2 in its timeslot and had a lot of viewers. But as noted elsewhere, they didn't really look at a breakdown of the demographics and was more generalized and Trek didn't appeal to the older crowd who were watching other shows. That's why it did so well in syndication, a younger audience who didn't get a chance to see it because their parents didn't want to watch it now could. But the ratings were still good when it was on the air, it wouldn't have been cancelled if the show had cost less like many of the other shows at the time.
Very good points although I have seen the demo argument disproven as NBC was allegedly very aware that trek was doing fantastic in their target demo.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters fair enough, studios tend to ignore things like that if it doesn't match up with what they want. Makes you wonder how many shows were like that and could have been big successes but got canned by the studo for "reasons".
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In fact, _Star Trek's_ biggest problem was that NBC execs didn't like it. They didn't understand it, thought it was silly and felt that a "science-fiction" series hurt the network's prestige. This is why they deliberately shifted it to the worst time-slots. The show was literally being sabotaged by them...
Actually, the ratings for TOS were never better than middle of the pack, especially after the first season.
MOST-DETAILED video I've yet seen on the subject (and as a life-long Trekkie, I've watched a LOT!) - with the most relevant footage, interviews with cast and crew, context, ramifications, etc.! VERY well-done! LLAP! ;-)
Wow, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
I really love the episode Devil's Due. I think it's because at the time it first aired I was just realizing that I believe the idea of religions and gods to be ridiculous
I recently re-listened to The Last Of Us Podcast, and they reference how they planned it as a movie! Would you have like too have seen this!
"Number 1" is uttered in the original pilot...The Cage.
Great video, very interesting because I didn't know any of this!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
i got my mom back in i think 86 from a comic convention here in nyc the og bloopers VCR tape right around the time when somebody found REELS at paramount in the trash man real bad transfer from original reels in the trash lol my mom may still have it somewhere lol has messed up commercials someone says in color on NBC but buts in black and white and upside down stupid stuff like that doors not sliding lucy ball in there
Haha that’s awesome
ITS TOO BAD PERSIS KHAMBATTA LITERALLY SMOKED HERSELF TO DEATH. THAT WICKED WEED.
Yup. That’ll do it.
Her entire life was a disaster, and not by her own doing. Sad story.
She had a weak heart from she was very young, nothing to do with smoking.
Leonard Nimoy as well.
The triangular Enterprise drawings were a reality already. On the show Fireball XL-5 in the episode "Invasion Earth" the alien invaders flew ships like the one in the drawing.
Not bad, some funny choices in the clips shown when talking. Good voice too compared to a lot of TH-camrs.
I skipped everything in my list to watch this right away 👍
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i will never forget reading an article that both shatner and nimoy signed to do the series. It was going to happen! then, it didn't. So sad and I have often thought I'd rather have 3 seasons of 24 episodes with all of the original cast that maybe wasn't the best thing out there, than a few movies that happened later of which only half were really good and they were all much older. They got greedy when they saw the success of star wars and thought they could duplicate it. So we got the long boring Vger movie
That’s Judson Scott at 10:06 not David Gautreaux
What a magnificent series Phase II would have been.
Crazy that Shatner had to live in a camper van after the original series!
It would be fun to listen to a rundown of all the scripts. I read them long ago but I would definitely like to hear your thoughts on them
Ever since I found out about this project I've wished I could see the alternate universe where it happened. I used to imagine a future where photorealistic CGI would become widely available and you could effectively replicate actors' voices and mannerisms to create a version of what things might have been like. Like Phase II, for example. I think it's inevitable that will be realized in our lifetime so maybe someday someone will use AI and 3D modeling software to recreate something like what we could have gotten
Also, you might be interested to know that there's kind of a version of the Captain Pike series we never got (SNW notwithstanding) in the comics. It's called Star Trek: Early Voyages. There's also another second five year mission in the comics. It's called Star Trek: Untold Voyages. It's set between The Motion Picture and The Wrath Of Khan. It's obviously very different but worth reading, I think. Then there's a daily newspaper strip whose events are set around the time of The Motion Picture. Those are fun. I like those a lot
That’s awesome. I’ll check it out. I know fans have remade some of the phase 2 scripts online which you can find on TH-cam. The whole show is definitely an interesting what if. Would’ve changed history for sure.
Too bad Star Trek TMP did get made. 💩🔫💩🔫💩🔫
This concept and characters wouldn't be a bad way to soft-reboot the Kelvin series. Could keep Pine and deliver on the promise of the '09 film, familiar characters in different scenarios.
Love that idea
Why bother to listen to the fans and then put it in a garbage time slot? Seems vindictive
They tried moving it to Mondays but there was drama with the show they were going to bump
I totally agree.
I totally agree.
The network execs were probably pissed because of the letter writing campaign proving their "insight" about Trek being wrong. It was probably also ego driven. They probably thought, "who are these people and what do they know? We're network executives!"
So much series history jammed into this video that I lost track. But I see many parallels between characters in different shows.
That's not a picture of David Gautreaux at 10:06 that's Judson Scott from Star Trek II.
I know. I messed up :(
The protests to save the show are so amazing
Some TNG episodes were based on Phase 2 scripts. (E.G. TNG The Child S2E01 was a rewritten Phase 2 story.)
All these decades and I never knew Xon and Kahn's #2 were the same actor.
They’re not. I dropped in the wrong headshot by mistake. However they look identical!
That was a mistake. The photo of Judson Scott (Wrath of Khan's Joachim) is not David Gatreaux!
First time I've seen one of your videos. Even though I have watched a few things on Phase 2 I really like this and found it interesting.
Thanks and welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed it.
and this is why you rock big guy didnt know this lol
Thanks :)
There really is something special with the Star Trek universe!🔥 J.J abrams trilogy is just awesome!
Could you do ”what could have been World War Z 2?”🎬😄
Yup!
Abrams trilogy is absolutely terrible!
@@RichardM-kv4uu Speaking as a long-time fan of Star Trek since obsessively watching TNG reruns as a kid in the 90s, I respectfully disagree with your dour opinion.
@@filthycasual8187 that's OK, plenty of people like them, I think they're absolute garbage though, an insult to the original show.
I'm sure they had already showed a Star Fleet bar/recreational area in one of the movies (Star Trek III?)
Enterprise's rec area was seen in Charlie X and other episodes of the original series
They had a break room on TOS where we would see Spock playing 3-d chess. 😊
"threatening to poison him". Damn I guess sometimes Fandom gets...toxic
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Interesting bit of trivia: the tv ad announcing Trek's move to Friday nights uses the same font that would later be used in the 1980s for titles of Trek novels published by Pocket Books.
The 1st Star Trek film was not good. It was just an extended copy of the Changeling.
I did watch it and to be fair compared to Discovery it's a masterpiece. Then again a frozen turd is more appealing than Discovery
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For Star Trek fans the first movie was a huge disappointment. For some reason they thought special effects were more important. A good story might have made it the highest grossing film of all time. I didn’t go see the 2nd even though reviews were good .
I cant help but think this show not being produced in favour of the movies was the best choice, mainly because i dont think star trek could survive another project helmed entirely by roddenberry, the newer blood injected by the movies i feel helped with keeping star trek relevant
Agreed. Bennett and Meyer especially
@@BulletsandblockbustersAnd I thought that Rick Berman did a great job, too.
i think the UPN merged with the WB to make the CW, but Paramount never put a star trek show on the CW, and they were going to have a new star trek tv show on cbs a year or two ago, but they wanted people to pay to watch it, on something called Cbs all access, and that morphed into the first? streaming service, made by a tv station. and the streaming wars then started. which left regular tv to rot, as all the attention was put on tv shows made for the streaming services.
Oh... My... GLOB. Zahn was Kahn’s Joachim!
Scripts were written, togas were fitted.
Too bad the first movie they tried to make it into another 2001 .
The slow motion picture
I didn't know UPN was paramount...
Yup!
Almost 45 years later and I STILL hate the Star Trek TMP pajama uniforms!
Or, NBC's Trouble With Trimbles
Tribbles
LSD?!
Oh wow, man.
Never knew that! Great video!
I already knew about this the first season of Phase 2 would have consisted of 13 episodes and the series at least the first season would have omitted Spock from the cast as Leonard Nimoy declined to star in another TV series and had issues with the scripts. The story treatments are on Wikipedia and have been released to the public and a few of them have been repurposed in other Star Trek media such as TNG the series was ultimately converted into a full length theatrical film (1979) after the success of Star Wars (1977) two years previously with Nimoy on board as Spock unlike for the unmade TV revival.
don't forget about Andy Problert's contribution to the refit
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Probert
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The description of Zan sounds kind of like Data in the Next Generation.
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Yep, Xon was Data, Decker was Riker, Ilea was Troi.
Interesting how Leonard Nemoy never wanted to be associated with Star Trek only to him later having him direct 2 Star Trek movies.
Also Shatner hating on his fans "get a life" for him ultimately loving what he does/done and being the one and only Captain Kirk.
George A. Romero's Resident Evil
What about it? What does it have to do with Star Trek?
Great job on this, truly fascinating!!!!!!
Don't worry, within 10 years we'll have phase II 5 year adventures with Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly, Nichols, Koenig, Doohan, Takei recreated using AI with human oversight.
I wished one day they could maybe use Ai to create 3D characters in sets, having sampled everything an actor has ever said on film to say the script lines … bringing back Leonard Nimoy, Deforrest Kelly etc for the Animated Series and maybe carry on where TOS left off “phase 2” … filling in timeline to The Motion Picture 🙏 … yeah, pay royalties to families for use of these legends voices and images if need be, but hopefully just keeping these legends alive though the proper use of Ai, would be a sufficient nod to their careers.
@Mckowski101 - It need not be animated as Deep Fake technology, voice as well as video, is already reached the point of fooling us. The young Harrison Ford recreation in the recent Indiana Jones movie was amazing, and that's only the beginning. Before long we'll be watching all of our favorite old long-gone actors/characters back on screen again. This time they'll be youthful again and appearing in brand new episodes. And it won't be just onscreen, soon AI technology will allow the creation of exact android copies of our favorite people in the form of androids. William Shatner envisioned this in his excellent science fiction novel called _Tech War_ back in 1989. He was very prophetic as many of the futuristic things in the book have already come to pass.
The problem is that it wouldn't stop there. Back in 1992, TV ads used doctored clips of Humphrey Bogart and Jimmy Cagney to sell Diet Coke - They only stopped because of the immediate, extensive backlash from the public. If you think they won't be using AI images of dead celebrities to push products, ideologies and political candidates you're being naive. Do you really want to see Nimoy promoting "Drag" shows, or Shatner making threats about a "climate crisis"?
Btw, if you do, don't tell me....
5:49 is that Shatner? he looks terrible!
Yup