Next-Gen Farming Isn't What You Think It Is
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2021
- Vertical Farming might have some implications but there is an unknown farming method that could revolutionize the industry and help us fight climate change.
My Patreon:
/ oliverbahl
My Twitter:
/ bahlfranke
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 67 | คู่เอก "นักรบ vs ทาเกียร์"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eahGc1XmrEU/mqdefault.jpg)
![จังหวะนี้ - เม้ก อภิสิทธิ์ [ Official MV ] จอนนี่มิวสิค](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4gQRZCkRyiU/mqdefault.jpg)
People have pointed out that I confused Saudi Arabia with the UAE in this video, which is an honest mistake on my part. So to clarify I meant to only mention UAE and not Saudi Arabia. I will do my best to make sure I won't make this mistake in the future.
Its cool bro
Hey :)
I'm curious where you got the information from that growing wheat vertically isn't possible, because when I looked that up it said that it certainly is possible just not economically competitive as of right now.
But that might look different when you take better Automation, more efficient lighting etc and "Superpower" (which is highly fascinating: th-cam.com/video/6zgwiQ6BoLA/w-d-xo.html ) in to the equation
@@elsmaster5592 I did not say anything about it not being possible? I have the same view as you, it's just not economically favorable to do with current technology. Just like I said in the video.
You can't eat that much seaweed, because of the iodine and Salts in it. Its Just a small Addition
Are you fucking joking USA no1 food producer in the world,also one of the biggest countries. Who is number fucking 2? In agricultural export.... the Netherlands one of the smallest. If the US would produce the same amount per m2 we would never run out
50% of the annual food produced globally currently goes to waste, we just need better food management systems and not more land to produce more food that will eventually goes to waste.
It's actually 30%, but I agree
As of the last IPCC report it's 25-30% but still, way too high
The thing is urbanization cannot be stopped and as the rate of increase of the world population increases every year, farming and urban development will surely complete for the rapidly decreasing available land. Vertical farming will surely augment traditional farming in the future.
Lets use nano packaging for it
Also, if we adopted a plant based diet globally, we could free up 30-50% of global farmland that could go to growing directly for human consumption. It's terribly inefficient to grow food for animals (the bigger, the more inefficient), and then consume the animals after.
So basically, weed and Seaweed are the way forward..
In the novel 20000 leagues under the seas, they smoke cigars made out of seaweeds with high nicotine concentration. Who said we can't modify our seaweeds to make more medicinal/ recreational products for us?
Everybody loves weed ig lol
Sam hyde was right
Weed planet🌱🌱
Research regenerative agriculture and permaculture
Don't buy into the stereotype that vertical farms need to be "fully automated", "high tech", "high cost". This is just not true. I have a Microgreens farm in my basement that I spent less than 300 dollars on. Think low, then scale up. That is the beauty of vertical farms, scale up as your business grows. Otherwise, great video.
It seems like there's a tendency for futurists to think in big, sweeping terms for "revolutions". They forgot that a lot of "revolutions" are started bottom up by small, cumulative increases in interest + innovation.
100% agreed with you.
I produce 1800 Tons of maize and corn a year, then, is vertical farming a fact or a novel joke? how do I make the switch?
@@franciscomendoza754 it's still arguable wether you can produce maize and corn in a vertical farm since it's mainly used to grow leafy greens for now. I mean, yeah, theoretically it's possible if you wanna grow those things in an indoor vertical farm with certain adjustment, but I don't know if it's practical because the electricity cost to run the farm will outweigh the pros of growing more crops in a limited area.
So your "basement" "microgreens" are not weed?? wink wink.. LOL..
Whats even more interesting is fermentation farming. get that algae, yeast or whatever to make the proteins or many other molecules that you want.
Build these farms in abandoned Olympic and World Cup stadiums or other empty buildings taking up space in every town/city.
I think the problem would be that vertical farms require specific structures, so while you could probably use those buildings as exoskeletons for the farms, it might be more difficult to build them inside a building than just starting from scratch, especially since those buildings tend to be oddly shaped.
Also precision fermentation. Basically fermenting proteins like we do with alcohol or diary. Has HUGE implications. Recommend looking into it.
Tell us more, that's interesting
Go on, sir. Tell me more ☺
Actually if we Didn’t throw food away or if we prevented rotting we wouldn’t need as much land
Yea most of the food is wasted. Some doesn’t get picked. Some gets culled because it’s imperfect. Some doesn’t get sold. Some spoils. Some more spoils after it’s sold again. Most of the food people eat in modern cities is bad for them anyways. They could live much more healthfully for a fraction of the price by eating farm seconds of things like squash and potato
Nowadays they are converted into biofuel as well as animal feeds.
Like in India we estimates gives 30-40% food produce is wasted..AT ITS PRIMARY SOURCE!!?
@@availablehage Yes, you are right. India have Essential commodity Act due to which no private player can store the food.
If they do they will be declared Food hoarders and will be punished prisonment upto 3 years.
This is the reason why 40% of food in India get wasted.
@@vidyasingh4162 yes mam..and the take of centre/media and farmers on current farm laws is so confusing after watching news for one month I am none the wiser..sometimes I just feel we are afraid to take some concrete steps even if its holding us back..but i just tell myself its a democracy and people get what they deserve..
Hemp is another future crop. Hemp oil can replace any crop grown for bio fuel. It also creates animal feed as the seed husks are great for animals. The hemp stock can replace any crop grown for clothing fibre as well as trees for wood pulp and animal bedding and building materials. The plant grows quickly and requires never little inputs , like chemicals to get good yield.
Dear D. S.
Flax is better for the topics you described. For 3 reasons:
1. Hemp is a sturdier plant than Flax and we don't have the machines and the knowledge, like we already have for flax.
2. Regulations are making it impossible for hemp atm to be cheap, but with flax we can start now.
3. Hempseeds, Hemp-Fiber and Hemp biomass have different optimal farm times. This makes many things even more complicated. With flax you don't have this problem.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hemp, but especially now it's not always the best option.
Greetings from Germany
You are missing the point of land surface use...
@@bobjob3632 Not really, cause the biggest land use is for our greed. Cows alone have more than 15 times the biomass of all wild living mammals together. If we would just cut out a large part of our meat intake, 15 billion humans would have enough to eat. And we could use plants like hemp more, while not destroying the old woods.
@@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 cutting Meat consumption will be too controversial for anyone to even consider it will be political suicide so it wont happen anytime soon. Unless good quality Meat can be grown in Labs in large quantities it wont happen
@@randomriku6774 Some sacrifices have too be made, and anyways since when do politicians care about anything but money
This should have way more likes! The quality of his content is always so pristine
Now this is what I subscribed for
How about we bring back victory gardens, might offset the demand on our food supply a bit, plus give us some outside activity
Thank you for being sane
Amen!
This! Don't Russians grow something like 30-40% of their nation's food in their own gardens?
@@lagoya
Yes, although they're quite different from the gardens you'd see in America. Dachas are secondary homes that families will move to during the summer months. (They live in the cities when they're not able to grow anything). They were made popular during soviet times and were usually allotted by the government to citizens for free.
We would have to have substantial land reform in order to reach a comparable percentage. The gov would have to freely allot land to city populations and to many people who live in suburbs. Which sadly will never happen because of agricultural lobbying.
Thats totally ineficcient. Humans stopped growing their own food for a reason
They were wanting to start seaweed farming here in Bantry bay , West Cork, but getting to the research of what the consequenses of such a business would have on the local fishing industry within the bay and the whole ecosystem it would be devastating
Good to know.
Can u explain more please 🖐
Good to know, I'd like to know more about the details if you don't mind.
Even if there are downsides to intensive seaweed cultivation, I can't imagine it would hurt anything if sited in the "ocean deserts" of the Pacific, where very little nutrients reach and therefore very little currently lives. If nothing else, the extra marine snow should help the bathyspheric ecosystem.
I see a future of many many sea/ocean farms! The only things we need to do is get our farms seaworthy.
It’s possible when there’s incentive. We certainly have off shore oil platforms.
Why the heck not offshore farm platforms? It’s FOOD.
So if I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that land grown grains ect. that do take up massive acreage, be replaced or at least supplemented by seaweed manufacturing. My question is..."Has anyone studied the effects of massive acreage of ocean being covered with seaweed farms?"
Over oxygenated and no place to swim because of the underwater comeback
Nice. There are also more self contained algae farms in places like Arizona. Nice thing about algae is they can live in salt water, so they don’t consume precious freshwater aquifers
They are also extremely useful on plants that burn wastage from homes as they can turn the CO2 into something far more usable, rather than pumping it into the atmosphere. I remember seeing that an American wastage plant had done this, although I can't remember where.
I would love to see efforts for GMO to change the form factor of grains/cereal/fruit plants to make them more compatible with vertical farms.
I would also like to see massive subterranean vertical farms in/close to city centres.
The fuel makes sense since for the most part “fossil fuels” are made from plant matter, not dinosaurs as most people think. With the sea weed we can get fuel without it being fossilized and that possibly might be why it’s a cleaner alternative
When he said vertical farms, i started thinking minecraft lmao... Amazing video btw keep up the good work!
Vertical Farming is not our silver bullet... For the extra explanation :
th-cam.com/video/V605mb9Fr-M/w-d-xo.html
That's where they got the idea after all
Such as iron farm, seaweed farm or cobblestone farm, etc. Fully automatic and no cost
@@mariuswong8449 yes
@@FinancialCharles not even close
Wow I wrote a business plan to start a vertical farm last week. I’ve been hearing a lot about them since then. Very cool video, good work!
Your algorithm changed
I don't know much about it, but look into aquaponics
Care to share? Not planning on making a business, just wanna grow some of my food at home
Please make a clear distinction between agricultural land and arable land. The nutrient content of greens grown in vertical farms are 100% dependent on the nutrients provided during growth and human hubris is such that we overestimate what we need to know about this. Where do these vertical farms get their nutrients? Most are currently running on soluble petrochemical based fertilisers
Thats what i was thinking about too. I mean this is the most important thing: the nutrients
@@tibimarius885 yes, all these "the way of the future" programs are about growing low calorie, low nutrient density greenery. Nice thought experiment for urban middle class folks but not a lot else
Yeah, you can't grow corn or grain or sunflower in it, just a low calorie greenery, which I like, but you can't sustain human on it.
Their best options are to grow vertical potatoes, I guess.
@@liamthibaudeau8966 wow, I've not seen that done. Do you have a resource I can read?
"There is a new technique called Deep Water Wild West Farming, and it is a way of raising cattle underwater....no not the cattle you are thinking but a different-but still very tasty and nutritious form of cattle- called algae." 5:08
Vertical farming in boring tunnels under cities running on geothermal, food security for the rest of time
As a former farmer I can tell you fertilizer and pesticides are huge expensive.
One of the advantages of closed-environment vertical farms is you don’t need any pesticides, but there are other costs.
@@javierandre-orlich430 yeah the initial investment is so huge. I think it's gonna be so hard to implement in my country.
I did some research on this and found out that as much as seaweed can be an alternative in the fuel industry, it is inefficient as it's energy density cannot compare to our regular fossil fuels. If any of you ever wondered why we don't use other renewable energy to use instead of fossil fuels, it's because the energy density is not enough to power our daily vehicles.
i need a more in-depth video about three-dimensional underwater farming! love this tho!
We can grow plenty of food on land but not if we waste it like we do. We grow way too much food for livestock, we throw away too much food, and we don't regenerate the soils in dessertified areas so that they can become viable gardening areas.
Honestly, vertical farming is a lot more viable if you only use 2-3 stories/levels for the building, with shelves for everything except the ground floor (which is the actual ground), and you stack the plants depending on the amount of light they need, using cheap plastic fresnel lenses to spread the light to the rows of crops, with the most light-intensive foods being closest to the transparent roof, and not needing to use LEDs for growing the plants. And you can have an updraft chimney to cause passive updraft, to prevent mold. Different plants have different minimums and maximums for the amount of light they can use, and both too much and too little will end the plant. Not only that, but you can even have small tractors to add spread the soil, sow the seeds, and harvest the plants. And there is even the option of delivering plants with part of the soil they were grown in, like cherry tomatoes.
Adding to this the usage of greenhouse ponds which to evaporate seawater and pipes to get those vapors inland at higher elevations, where a part of the vapors to be turned into drinking water and the rest to be released into the atmosphere to make clouds for shading and raining and to spin a ground-level wind turbine, then one would get both electricity for running some LEDs at night, and the water for growing all those plants. Sure, you might not get 100 times more produce, but you can still get 10 times more produce and 2-3 times as much grains as without it. The top 2-3 layers (because they need most of the sunlight), and the rest can be other vegetables (which need less sunlight).
As always, low-tech can be much cheaper than high-tech, especially in it's early stages and for lower initial-investment cases, in exchange for increased upkeep by needing someone to do what would otherwise be automated. And with everything being controlled, you can simply have the AC work by itself (as it already does), the fans always on to prevent mold, have someone seed the plants, have someone water the plants 2 times a day, and have someone harvest the plants.
We will not survive increased intensive farming. I'm a string advocate of permaculture, they sane way to mitigate the destruction of the natural environment.
What are your sources on us not being able to survive increased intensive farming? There's a massive difference between increasing our farming through cutting down all of our forests and then increasing our farming with vertical farms and seaweed farms. One destroys nature, the other helps it to recover faster as the latter would allow us to turn more of our traditional farms back into forests.
Seaweed can't be consumed greatly for many people because it's high content in Iodine. I think biofuels it's the way to go
Eats less meat is also very clever 👍🏼👌🏻
Have less kids, or none.
We don't have to increase anything. Just drastically decrease food waste and we are nearly there. Then, decrease meat consumption, and we are there.
It's impossible for our farming style atm to not waste a lot of food. But decreasing animal products means less land, so this is a great idea. Sadly not a lot of people want to hear that.
@@dieabsolutegluckskuche5174 other forms of farming exist and are proven to work, and yield the same, without waste, soil degredation and erosion.
@@caslook.kalliades This method still doesn't take a growing population into account. It just pushes the problems into the future, rather than solving it now. It's literally doing the same for food production in the future as the baby boomers did for Global Warming. Ignoring it now by putting a plaster on the fleshwound and then get all surprised when it resurfaces and bleeds heavily in the future. We're not just going to magically stop reproducing more humans and good luck with introducing global measures for birth control. Saving waste food will only fix half the problem. We need to fix the entire problem
@@caslook.kalliades thanks Thanos for giving a none answer.
We do not need more food production, 2014 we already have food 3 times more than we need to feed peoples, but sametime 30% of population is out of food.
So the problem is not that we need more farming, we need to get food where People need it. There we have to focus, not in future, but right now!
What about the carbon footprint from building/running vertical farms? The amount of electricity needed to power the ac and lighting is immense.
Led lights take low power.. as for the ac, well.. it's renewable energy when it comes from the sun aka it doesn't emit carbon = no carbon footprint (except the waste)
@@rosesforhanjisung4161 Was gonna reply the exact same as you just said. Plus he also said this in the video. And there are countless ways to produce renewable energy
wind, solar, geothermal.. plenty of ways to get free electric by comparison. probably less environmentally harmful than running a tractor around farmland for months for a single harvest
Thats Sorghum and not corn but you can get sugar from certain sorghum varieties.
I know right he showed sorghum when he said corn. That said though they are related, not sure how close though.
I get so weary of these initial statements from every one of these agriculture innovation videos: "We will need to feed 10 billion people by 2050!" The truth is a huge majority of the nations of the world are not even close to replacement level of fertility already. Not a chance we will reach that number of people.
No chance that Humanity will increase in population by 33% in the next 29 years?
@@kaitlyn6853 Look up the recent study published in the Lancet.
@@davidford694 A single study isn't enough to prove anything
Many African nations population are growing rapidly, and is being seen as the next source of cheap labour.
3:04 You need fertilizers in a vertical farm! How do you think the plant grows? From just air and water?!
No you don't. Ever heard of soil containing nutrients? There's a vast difference between nutrients and fertilizers. If plants really needed fertilizers to survive, Earth would be a pretty barren place as no plants would ever have been able to survive anywhere and thus life would never have arisen.
This is a great video. Thanks for the update!
We need to fix the way we farm though on land. We need to build back our ecosystems and work within those ecosystems when we're farming. No more pesticides and fertilizers we need to rebuild our soils.
While pesticides fungicides and herbicides aren’t the best they are very necessary to get good yields without them we would have a even bigger food shortage problem as organic farmers produce around 20% less then a non organic farm. And as for lime and fertilizer go they help build the soil up to make it healthier . So There’s not much we can about it right now until someone comes up with a better way
@@jacketbox4573 I totally disagree, look up no till, permaculture and groundwater restoration. There's absolutely no question that we will need science, commercial scale farming and gmo's. What we don't need is pesticides that kill pests that were created by the style of our current farming . Outrageous swarms of locusts and mice attack farms because the ecosystem is unhealthy and out of balance or invasive species that were introduced by us have no natural predator. this was done generally by us and development in general. All corporations / governments need to do is to start moving towards more proven techniques that also work within ecosystems , instead of working against ecosystems. Food yields would increase across-the-board all the while repairing damaged soil and ecosystems as a result of years of pesticides and artificial fertilizers and poor commercial farming techniques. I'm no conspiracy theorist my guess is most farmers are just used to the status quo and Innovation or change seams fearful. Global warming will either for humans to live within Nature's natural ecosystems or the planet will let us know who calls the shots. Human civilization is a nanosecond in the history of this planet.
Better than seaweed, you can make biofuel from alge and we have been doing it for years already more effectively than seaweed... Just need the price of oil to raise enough to justify it... aaaaand as demand goes down and we get better at extraction the price keeps going down... so yeah, going to be difficult to justify the price.
A lot of the R&D costs of these vertical farm startups is going into dwarf varieties of staple crops (specifically grains and tubers) to make them viable for vertical farming. It is just a matter of time, and we will start seeing it happen in the next 5 years or so. Once that is cracked it is going to put a major dent not just in traditional farms, but also in traditional farm seed and pesticide providers as these new seed varieties are being developed in-house.
Lastly, a lot of people mention how this isn't viable in the US so it is a bad idea... and while it isn't the best idea in the US, it is totally viable in other parts of the world. Japan and SE Asia has some difficult land use problems that this solves, and even with the higher prices it is still cheaper and more reliable than imports, so it is growing there quickly. Africa has some interesting pest issues with things like Giraffes, Hippos, Elephants etc which break down barriers to have a snack, or just travel through because some silly farmer thought they could build over a migration path (and everywhere is a migration path! lol). Lots of farmable land in Africa that could grow very well, but totally unusable, so once the entry costs come down this is going to revolutionize food there.
And lastly, costs are dropping like a rock, while output is increasing which is what is going to make this last long term. Mostly the lighting is getting more efficient and cheaper to purchase which is a huge cost. A lot of the extreme automation is frankly not required to make this all work well, but it is also dropping in price like a rock while becoming more capable.
But you can't make as much out of algae as you can out of seaweed. That's the difference
This was really informative and thoroughly researched. Keep going!
Just going to add in here that I'm already working on bringing vertical farming to Denmark
Denmark already have vertical farms, or well one at least that I know of.
Where are the seaweed farms that you showed around 6:20? That looks so cool!!
All of the real footage he used of Vertical underwater farms looks to be from Asia, China somewhere on the coast. They're the ones that have all the money for experimental development currently.
algae definitely has massive potential and is going to be a significant part of the solution,
however I also hope that we'll manage to create GMO grain crops that are compatible with vertical farming setups.
Actually, GMO's might not even be necessary. I saw a video about vertical farming where they said that you can induce very significant changes to plants by tweaking the wavelengths of light from the LED's and what nutrients you feed it (changes like shorter stems and root system, etc). Although I don't personally have have a problem with GMO's , the fact is there is a huge stigma in the market place around them, so using them (for now) could slow consumer adoption of vertically farmed foods.
@@thomasa.anderson9055 the sole issue with GMO crops is that when growing them in monocultures in the open, they require significant pesticides and herbicides. which is no longer an issue in an controlled environment, e.g. indoor vertical farming. it would be pretty sad to forsake gains in efficiency because of misinformation...
@@holleey I agree, it is pretty sad, but until we figure out how to deal with misinformation/"fake news", it's an unfortunate reality were going to have to face for now.
I opened the reply's with an expectation to see an anti GMO rant, but I was pleasantly surprised. Thanks for showing me that there are other good people who know what GMOs actually are and not what mainstream media has said when talking about the Roundup version :)
@@thomasa.anderson9055 the thing is even with better controls of the environment in a vertical setup, can dwarf varieties of the aforementioned cereals be as productive as their larger counterparts? Without genetically modified them in the modern sense?
I'm interested to see what your thoughts would be when it comes to solving the problem of being unable to grow cereal, grains, and oil crops. This seems to be the the only disadvantage of vertical farming which seaweed farming can't really fix. What do you think would be the solution?
We can also.use seaweed as a plastic replacement and to digest microplastic
I think that small scale local permaculture farms are the best and most sustainable way to procude food
An easy solution for the grains and other plants would-be genetically modifying them so they can be farmed in the vertical farms. But we are still behind when it comes to genetic modification since we can't see the side effects properly.
Well, out of all the multitudes of genetic modifications that have been done, I am pretty sure super short dwarf wheat would be one of the safest.
@@ginsederp But the problem isn't just height it also needs green wide leaves so it is fast-growing and financially plausible. That means lots of genetic alternations.
Genetic alterations of physical traits are quite benign. People mostly fear GMO because of legitimate concerns of pest resistance through genetic introduction of unnatural means of chemical warfare, pesticide resistance that would allow harmful pesticides to be applied directly without harming the crop, and less legitimate concerns like 'O Mer Guld! Itis altered and orangeee!!!'.
@@ginsederp It is not benign at all since a gene can affect multiple other genes which change the mechanisms completely. Also pesticide resistance is rather easier since you add a new gene to the gene pool which is usually CRY.Adding to a code is always easier than changing the code.
It’s important to add the differences in ecosystems around the world, not all area necessarily are suited to seaweed and u need to pick a type that is most local so its not gonna disturb the other creatures much
I love your videos. Every single one! I wish you the best for the hard work you do.
The world has enough food, as evidenced by a rising obesity rate. The biggest problem isn't that we can't grow enough but that we throw away like 25%+ of our food. If we a) stopped wasting and b) improved our logistical systems we could easily feed the world.
Sign me up to be a seaweed farmer
Thinking the same. It's damn intriguing - and if it helps the environment, I'm all up for it. Someone has to be the "pioneers" to get this rollin'. Worst part is - there might be good money in this too, but it can also be a failure (here in Europe). Asia seems more like a safe place to start.
How about indoor aquaculture, rotational grazing, agroforestry?
There’s also an other option for farming...if space science is as I’ve seen ..space farming is possible soon....unless it a.ready exists in large scale... space farming could enable most ground plants to grow.
A similar farming underwater technique as this video shows for seaweed and shell fish is..fish....once I saw a presentation of a large 20 meter or maybe bigger dome....that could navigate its self and care for fish....I wonder if that’s out there.
Space farming is literally vertical farms.
Biofuels are not a green replacement to conventionnal fuels, they're just well marketed with the word ''bio'' in front of it having a positive green connotation to people. They are typically energy negative in their cycle of production, meaning we input more energy to produce them than they give back. They also produce greenhouse gases when burned, the same as conventionnal kerosene. At best they could theoretically be carbon neutral (given they capture carbon during production) if they were not energy negative but the fact they are energy negative means you need energy from somewhere else to make them possible which makes them a net carbon emitter in most cases. All of this is also not considering the surface use (land or aquatic) required to produce a sufficient amont to be useful which is an environmental hazard by itself.
Nothing can be scaled infinitely in reality
Of course yes. Non material thing can be. For instance: knowledge.
Agreed, at some point we're going to have to cap our population, or the earth will "correct" us with no mercy.
@@thelight3112 Say hello to space. While it is neither infinite, there sure as hell is a lot more, well, space up there than on Earth
@@thelight3112 The population is already starting to cap, In all the developed countries at least, many other are also slowing down. The population on earth will hardly go beyond 10Billions
Parts of forests can be utilised to keep goats and poultry,with proper protection from predators... Free range goat and poultry farms cam be used for cropping food crops...so food production can be increased a little bit.. poultry can be highly succesfully grown in forest areas due to the availability of live food...trees provide shade...both forests and humans will be mutually benifitted
As North American farmer I can tell you that most wheat and canola that isn't heavily subsidized (western Europe) is grown on land that cannot support forests.
Your comment about seaweed having 10x the nutrients of land-based agriculture brings up the main question I have about vertical farming: if these plants are NOT grown in soil, where do the nutrients come from? I've not seen an accounting for nutrients with vertical farm methods, and that is critical. I understand that nutrients are badly depleted in farm-raised crops due to badly degraded soils which have been plowed and monocropping year after year, with nutrients lost to rain and runoff for decades. Regenerative farming seems to be the answer to these problems- but what about the nutrient level of vertically farmed crops? Would love to know this...
The nutrients that plants need are usually specific amounts of minerals and metals, which can be isolated artificially and applied to a water mixture in the correct amounts autonomously. This allows the farm to use either Aeroponics as Aerofarms use (they hint to this method with the "Aero" in their name as "Aero" is Latin for "Air") or they can use Hydroponics. The difference is how the roots are given their water and nutrients that the plants need. In Hydroponics the roots are suspended directly in the water solution, whereas in Aeroponics they are sprayed with the water solution and all of the solution that the roots doesn't take, collects in the bottom to be reused. That's also how Aeroponics are able to save 90% on their water usage. I hope this helped.
Also, don't listen to the people who say that Vertical Farms need fertilizer. They can't tell the difference between fertilizers and nutrients
surprising that mussel farms in the sea are not more prevalent,
people are already used to eating mussels compared to eating insects or sea weed,
until the day meat proteins are grown in pools in an industrial scale
Huh, I was expecting you to go with "vertical farm ships", not seaweed. So, thanks that was quite useful.
use plastic bottles and net to make trash island for floating vertical farm.
Hey! Good video OBF! I recommend you to look at deep ocean fisheries if you are interested in future food production!
I am happy to be in the 4.6 % Thank you for the great content as always, finding new interesting and current topics and presenting them in the most easy way to understand. Keep up the the great work and stay healthy. Thank you once again:)
Dude. I hope you see this comment.
Regenerative agriculture and agroforestry can replace cereals and grains to produce starches, oils, and proteins. Perrenial fruit and nut trees can produce these staple commodities.
Mark Shepard’s book Restoration Agriculture blew my mind. I'm a solar panel installer and want to apply his permaculture design philosophy to developing agrivoltaic projects.
You can combine agrivoltaics (sheep grazing w/ pollinators in solar arrays) with agroforesty north of the array and outside the shade zone of the array.
The solar can power vertical farms for annuals like you talked about.
Also, blockchain can automatically manage energy distribution and monetize microgrids services with energy storage on site.
And offshore wind turbines and floating solar panel plants can be paired with hydrogen production and help form the infrastructure to assist the management of the mariculture, multi leveled ocean farming projects you talked about.
Rad stuff bro. Thanks for the great videos.
#SolarPowerToThePeople
#WorldPeaceIsPossible
#wattbasedcurrency
Why run any currency at all? Why not go with a resource based economy similar to the one that The Venus Project proposes? Also, OBF and I are both Danes. I saw that the primary definition of Regenerative agriculture is topsoil regeneration. Which Denmark have always been doing. All of Danish farmland is farmed on for 2 years with a 1 year break where nature just grows whatever it wants on it. Then the process starts over with the field being plowed and the plants become new nutrients for the topsoil. To help it even further, farmers also dump calcium on their land, so the soil neither runs out of that.
But even with these principles, it still doesn't change the fact that we need more land to make more food. You can make all the regeneration and biodiversity you wish on natural land, but that doesn't generate more farmland. And we need more farmland to make more food.
@@Arterexius you can grow more food in less space with vertical agriculture and indoor hydroponics. Annual crops would do well with controlled environment powered by renewables.
Outdoor agriculture can be done using regenerative methods with perrenials without the toxic chemical inputs.
The majority of conventional agriculture is growing staple commodity crops for starches, oils, protein, or biomass for ethanol.
We don't need any more space for more farmland. We need to stop wasting the space we are using and dumping poison on it every season.
@@danielschmidt2186 ok so you aren't actually opposed to vertical farming, people who hold your first position always say going all in on permaculture.
Yeah vertical farming assuming it works out will allow us to rewild/re-green vast swathes of land.
@@ANTSEMUT1 Right, I think verticle farming is great for annual crops with fast yield cycles.
Regenerative agriculture is more designed with perrenials.
I imagine that the combination of the offshore agriculture and vertical farming would free up enough land to return to Prairie for grazing animals.
A huge portion of corn and soy goes to animal feed and ethanol. With rotational grazing and electric cars we could eliminate the need for most of the corn.
Agroforestry can supply the same products we get from soy too.
I'm most excited about combining renewable energy and regenerative agriculture on the same space. Vertical farming is a natural pair with renewable energy to
Theres actually a lot of seaweed farms, the problem is that there arent enough seaweed processing plants and not enough people to sell it to, as it is still a newish market
We need to get rid of wasters that are on the planet. The amount of food that is wasted on earth is infuriating. People need to start to learn how to grow their own food. If everyone did this there would be a much higher level of respect for where food comes from. it can be taken away just as quick too.
Awesome content. I like the info, thanks youtube algorithm
Thank you!
This "content" is worthless. It doesnt teach anything. He doesnt even do any research.
One sceptical thought that remains for me is this: seaweed doesn't only consume sunlight to grow, it also requires minerals and other nutrients extracted from the sea. If we are going to bring seaweed in massive doses onto land for our use, that also means that we will be depleting the available minerals and nutrients in the sea - causing danger for all sea life which is vital for our survival.
Sea surface is a good option for experiments
Subscribed homie 🙋🏽♂️
On land we can grow edible forests and raise animals with leftover food that we do not eat in the water we can grow algae and grow seafood with fish.
At the 4 mins mark you did confuse Saudi Arabia and the UAE
You'r right I did, an honest mistake. Will make sure I get it right next time though, thank you for letting me know!
@@OBFYT no problem
i think a much more practical solution would be eating less meat and regenerative agriculture, 70% of farm land is for animal feed since meat is a higher trophic level it requires more resources to produce, plant based diets can greatly reduce the amount of land we need to feed ourselves. Adding that with regenerative agriculture can sequester a ton of carbon, make our food way more nutrient dense, and not need chemicals.
The issue is there is no one making estimates for those who need to stop wasting food if I make to much I eat it the following day for lunch no more throwing away fruit and veg skins are composted I don’t get why people waste and I also don’t get why company’s are constantly trying to make us throw away perfectly good products just coz they want to bring out something slightly better every two or three years
Plenty of desert to teraform that's currently being teraformed which makes about 30% of the earth's land. That will be great for bringing income and nature's beauty back to countries like Egypt. My main concern is getting the fresh water to supply the demand in any situation, only things I can think of is filtering sea water or bring a comet down 😅.
Hi @OBF, thank you for that video. I would add a few things for viewers to understand fully the challenges related to the climate crisis and what solutions are best.
1) The climate crisis is a crisis of energy with on one end the depletion of resources stocks and on the other the release of carbon in the atmosphere. So I would say it is important for the viewer to understand that carbon emitting solutions, no matter how green they are being presented, are not the ideal paragon to mitigate the crisis and adapt to the future. On that respect, vertical farming completely relies on energy consumption. You mention energy can come from renewable resources of course and this is something companies must commit to, though they are still constrained by the available infrastructure. But even then, solar panel as it stands do have a carbon footprint that is not neutral since its production requires extraction of rare materials and the supply chain involves quite a bit of travelling. So I would not present solar energy as though suddenly consuming energy is OK. We must optimize production processes to reduce our carbon footprint but also revise our own consumptions habits in order to use more wisely energy and therefore avoid ever increasing needs for it.
2) Vertical farming as mentioned make more sense in some areas than others, for instance high density populated area where it can complement standard agricultural production. Though it is also to be noted that artificial agricultural such as vertical farming, though it seems perfect as it emulates perfect growth condition, it is proven that it unfortunately yields less nutritious produces. As a matter of fact, a plant needs variability of weather, fighting for its survival in order to produce a richer blend of minerals and vitamins. Finally i’d say vertical farming as a large scale solution can be considered in the sad eventuality we are not able to reform conventional agriculture (in industrialized countries) or improve methods of traditional agriculture (in less industrialized countries). But we shouldn’t stand for that and put a real focus on that issue as it would solve significantly our food problem and address environmental issues that are currently being catastrophic: impoverishment of soils, reduction of biodiversity including disappearance of essential species for food crops such as bees. Permaculture and agroforestery shows tremendous potential. A experimental farm in France, followed for a decade by scientific institutes, has demonstrated that they can produce the same amount of food than conventional agriculture but with only 10% of the surface conventional agriculture would require, while boosting biodiversity and regenerating soils. There are also very interesting examples of regeneration of lands that got desertificated by overuse thanks to simple methods (like building strategically placed infrastructures to retain water and give it the time to permeate soils). If 3/4 of the land currently cultivated could be converted with permaculture techniques, it would make a tremendous difference, more than vertical farming. Especially because permaculture mimicking the principles of nature, uses hardly any chemicals and the crops being more dense, there’s hardly any mechanization. So the use of energy is minimal, especially if we consider local-based food distribution.
All in all, I’d say it is important to explore technological solutions to food supply and environmental issues, but as soon as it requires technology, it means it also requires energy. And if we want to be able to scale things for humanity, we must concentrate our efforts on solutions that not only minimize the consumption of energy but also work towards regenerating our land and natural ecosystems.
Please continue making videos for all to see. I hope these precision’s can help for future videos 🙏
You need to turn your recording volume up, OBF. I have to turn my volume to the max just to hear you, and that only sets me up for trouble.
One thing not really covered in this video:
1 square foot of conventional farmland gets its energy directly from the sun.
Because of the low efficiency of solar panels, if you took a conventional farm, converted it to a solar panel plant, and used that electricity to power a vertical farm, it will take 2-5 times as much square footage in solar panels to get the same production per square foot in a vertical farm.
I think the better solution is greenhouse farming (aquaponics, hydroponics, aeroponics...) You don't have the conversion penalty of solar panels, but you still benefit from the improved climate and farming practices of a vertical farm.
Sea weat is hard as hell to cultivate in the sence that most of the worlds coats cant grow it eficiently
I think where vertical farming and seaweed can relatively quickly offset grain production is in animal feed.
On ranches it could potentially be cost effective to run a vertical farm on-site specifically to feed livestock.
40% of all the grain we produce is used as livestock feed.
That is a massive amount of land used currently to feed our livestock. A significant portion of land is also used as grazing land.
A scheme such as this could offset land requirements for both. While raising the quality of life for livestock.
Animals reared on nutritious foods could potentially be healthier and thus output less methane, require less antibiotics, etc.
I've seen automated grain sprouting plants which are used to multiply the value of grain livestock feed. Cost effectively producing sprouts such as barley sprouts year round, on-site. Which, is already a plus. Imagine we could feed all our livestock healthy food using a fraction of the land, with almost no transportation required.
Do it with Aquaponics and suddenly your cattle ranch is also a fish farm.
Another potential application to increase protein production. Snail farms coupled with vertical farming. Snails love cabbage and lettuce. Which happen to thrive in hydro- and aquaponic conditions. Escargot is also delicious :D And a very efficient way to produce protein.
Coconut vertical farming can you do that?
If you find a way to support an entire tree, then yes
Is it possible to vertically grow special plants to absorb co2 and then be coverted to gass. Thus bio dessiel could be harvested.
It would be insignificant
3:07, you say you don't have to spend any money on fertilizers but there is still fertilizer involved in hydroponic farming, less than normal farming but there is still fertilizer.
if you make the perfect conditions for serial crops as has been accomplished for leafy greens, and gain ecomonies of scale, virtical farms can grow and sell serial crops competitively.
Vertical farming does exist.
In nature, forest ecosystems have 7 layers.
The overstory canopy
The understory canopy
The shrub layer
He herbaceous layer
The root crop layer
The ground cover layer
And vines.
Food forest, agroforestry systems are designed vertical ecosystem farms do this by growing a forest ecosystem with the majority of species being edible or providing a valuble product.
There are examples in the Greening the Desert Project and via Zaytuna Farm.
Look up food forests, provides food and resourse plus created wildlife habitat plus takes environmental degradation and climate stability.
Yes, but that won't really help us with our food problem. The video wasn't saying that vertical farming is only something humans have invented, but that we need alternatives to traditional farming to feed a growing population
Nice work. Subscribed.
Can you provide links to your arguments?
I just got an ad for seeds for the first time while watching this
Really enjoyed this video! I hope to see more like it!
i love this..great content great info.. so I SUBSCRIBE 👍👍
Wow those vertical farms are huge!
I would love if I didn’t have to give up my Mustang. I wish we were to try harder to go for an alternative fuel source to work in it rather than making all electric cars
If food output will have to increase by 70% to keep current consumption trends that just means current consumption trends will not last.
We are very wasteful with our food right now - as food prices will increase, that will change and number of population will stop growing.
No, they won't stop growing. They will die of starvation
Exactly, population will stop growing one way or another, either because we die massively due to famine, war, disease etc. or because we stop breeding like rabbits thanks to better education and access to healthcare and contraceptives. But the human population will most definitely not continue to grow like it has for the past few centures for much longer.
Hemp Hemp Hemp processes more carbon than any other plant per acre
There is a huge part of the food problem solution which is logistical. So much food is wasted today for stupid reasons. If we can make our systems more robust to prevent this, we'd be able to feed all the new people in the coming century. The thing slowing the improvement of our logistics is the fact that it isn't profitable.
So you suggest that we should just push the problem into the future, rather than fixing it now?
Plant in all rooftops
Or we could just cut out corn starch from foods so the numerous amount of corn produced can be diversified in food that can be eaten directly
The way to be is to tech everyone to grow food and help everyone own and operate a garden
Because of the amount of energy required, you're creating more Co2. At least plants in the ground become Co2 traps.
I think combining "regular" vertical farms for leafy greens and the three-dimensional underwater farming would fix this. As he states in the video seaweed produces more oxygen anyways and so this would help scrub the atmosphere of Co2, help cut back on farmland required, help cut back on fossil fuels (least for cars and possibly aircraft), and allow for more and more jobs to be needed as more people would be needed to repair these machines, make them, write the code, and in general just help deal with our ever growing issue of over population. Though I doubt we'd ever get to a point where the fossil fuels are ever fully replaced and the solar panels would absolutely not be enough on their own to power a vertical farm 24/7/365. Maybe a great way of cutting back on fuels is require the seaweed fuel refineries to first send calculated amounts of fuel to vertical farms with on site fuel storage before sending fuel anywhere else. At least this way the farming industry could go a little more green and self sufficient.
Why do you think there wouldn't be a fertilizer expense with a vertical farm?
Great for coastal areas, however vertical farming still has its place for places that are land locked