I went to GameStop to buy a etb of this set. Went to the register and said fuck it im buying one sleeved pack. Walked back over grabbed it went home and debated on what to open first. Decided to open the one single pack first. Pulled the pikachu. My kids learned a lot of cuss words mainly “ holy fuck” screamed through the house with the wife confused as shit as why I was so excited. 😂
you probably haven't opened up enough boxes. Ive had many boxes from various sets, including this one. have 2 IRs not 3. It happens on about 30% of my booster boxes. So 1/13 sounds about right
I was beginning to believe the PC exclusive ETBs were stacked on a sample size of 4 until I opened the last box, about £10 worth of value, not including the promo.
I’ve had to stop buying boxes. Can’t keep buying boxes and getting like $5 to $10 total worth of cards from this set. I miss first year S&V where you could get 2 sir’s, or an sir and a gold from just one box.
The reason the number are off, is they probably calculate the lets say Gold CARDS to be 1 in 187.8, they time that number by 6, but give you the number 188. So youre off by 0.2 when multiplying
Pulled a gold card, a full art and second highest heidreigon ex card in a single etb get my booster box for 130$ on Friday excited to open and hope I can get my completion above 70%
@@darthsaint7743 Dude no kidding! I just got 20 sleeved packs in the mail this afternoon for surging sparks, and I pulled he Latios IR, Latias IR, and gold Night Stretcher! Along with the slakoth/appletun IR and 3 double rares. about $275 of card value for something I paid $75 for hahaha.
People don't seem to get how statistics work. Just because there is the ODDS of pulling a a specific card from 1/276 packs, DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU WILL PULL IT.
I opened 5 booster boxes 3 from 1 ebay store 1 from a lgs and 3 from another lgs pulled 3 sir cards each box that had sir had a gold as well what i got so far .
We have opened 3 booster boxes, got 2 gold, 2 SIR’s, every box had 3 IR’s and most of them had 2 Ace specs and several FA (roughly 2 per box). Those were some good boxes. We kept the rest of the case sealed, cuz it’s probably dried up😂
I didn’t pull a special illustration until my fourth booster box!! I opened three booster boxes 2 ETB 2 booster bundles and a three pack blister with no special illustration!! My fourth booster box got me Pikachu full art, Pikachu EX, and hydreigon special illustration!! And then another three pack blister got me Lisia’s Appeal special illustration!!
My question is: do they manipolate just the box or also the case? For example: if you open a box of the 6 and find the rarest card are you mathematically sure the other 5 are mid?
This sounds about right. Maybe slightly better odds if you're only opening booster boxes. My experience was that ancillary products were much more random and about every other booster box will not have a SIR.
Unfortunately, my luck in this set has been pretty "meh" this past week. Just opened 15 more sleeved packs, only hit was freaking eggs with eyes. I'm boutta just buy the Pikachus in Japanese and call it a year. Bro really over here being $600+ raw. Absolutely ridiculous!
A guy in my local discord was selling sir pikachu for 280 before release and I'm regretting not jumping on that. Between this and the prismatic evo preorders selling out in minutes it's looking like a grim season for tcg
I keep forgetting but can someone remind me. When after a set comes out should you start buying singles roughly? I know this channel always preaches dont buy on set release but how long should you wait?
Congrats! The chances of pulling two hyper rare cards in a single booster box are about 6%. You're very lucky! That's about the same odds as rolling a nat 20, by the way.
So I’ve been limited to how much I can rip but I’ve opened 3 BB and 70 sleeves, out of the 3 BB I’ve pulled 2 gold (both pikachu) and 2 SIR (one being the Lisia). Out of the 70 sleeves (all for the same box) I’ve pulled 4SIR, 2 golds. But still no pikachu. So hard to find product at good prices but it just seems to be the new normal.
Hey Ross, if you want pictures of the pulls per box, let me know where to send them. I opened 7 boxes, multiple had only two, every box with secret rare only had two Irs. And btw, pulled the pikachu on box number 7 😊.
My card shop got an etb for 45$ yesterday there holding my 130$ surging sparks BB til Friday, the etb hit a gold card the second highest heidreigon ex, and a full art lowest percentage I’ve ever gotten completion wise at 28% tho from an etb starting the set but expect after the BB opening 65-72% would be nice, seems like a good set pull rate wise but we’ll see how it goes, to the people saying I was wrong that booster boxes were only 160$+ plus maybe check out your local shops the one I went to told me it’s likely there next order they’ll have them for 120-125$ and etbs will be 40-45$ not 60$+ happy pack ripping days to you all and hope everyone enjoys the set, definitely liked it more once I started it than beforehand, still not looking forward to prismatic evo as I’m not an eeveelutions fan but until then promo hunting and Japanese BB openings is gonna be my next couple of months past this surging BB opening on Friday!
It’s usually 3 but I did get a box with 2 IRs. Not common but it does happen. That same box had an SIR so maybe it took that spot. But honestly that pikachu should be stupid expensive imo because it’s the best pikachu ever…. (it’s twerking)
I opened a booster bundle and opened the Pikachu SIR in the second pack. The pulls rates are so bad, opened a etb and another booster bundle and got hot garbage lol
the only REAL way to know the exact rarity of the card is to know the total amount of a specific card printed, as well as how many have been pulled, as well as how many are for sale at a given time.
Ya I disagree with the IR'S and SIR'S. I opened 2 booster boxes where I only got 1 IR and 3 booster boxes where I hit only 2 IR'S. Me and friends have opened 3 booster boxes and didn't get a single SIR. My friend opened 4 booster boxes and didn't get any SIR'S. These pull rates are harsh.
1 booster box = 6 x regular ex (double rare) 2 x ACE SPEC 3 x Illustration Rare 1 x Full Art ex (ultra rare) 1 x Special Illustration Rare Trainer 1 x Gold (Trainer)
That’s early S&V pull rates. They changed for the worse paradox rift onwards. Paradox rift was only slightly worse than the early sets, Temporal forces on has the worst pull rates that are in this video.
Istg why are the cards becoming so rare, Istg weren’t SIRs 1/40 in S&V? Also why are golf cards worth nothing when they’re so much rarer than everything else
tcgplayer is just giving a rounded number which is why you can't straight up multiply them together to get the 1 in x pack number. As for IR's it's definitely not as simple as 1 in 12 as there have been many booster boxes with 2 IR's in them. It's definitely not all 3 per booster box.
It varies I just opened up 6 pc etb & 3 booster boxes. Rates were spread out & I got 2 pikachu one of the gold & the rainbow one. Didn’t get THE pikachu but I got multiples of really good cards & most of the cards I wanted that I didn’t think I’d get. If you are betting everything on one box it makes sense but if you get a variety you’ll be able to satisfy your thirst.
I opened three boxes and didn't get a secret illustration rare in ANY of them. I think I'm done buying sealed Pokemon product for good after this set.
You can buy, just don’t rip lol
I bought one ETB and got that golden three-star Pikachu ex, one illustration and two other ex
Hang on to a box to sell down the road
Ahh, the lesson most people learn quite late into the hobby.
I went to GameStop to buy a etb of this set. Went to the register and said fuck it im buying one sleeved pack. Walked back over grabbed it went home and debated on what to open first. Decided to open the one single pack first. Pulled the pikachu. My kids learned a lot of cuss words mainly “ holy fuck” screamed through the house with the wife confused as shit as why I was so excited. 😂
If there's ever a reason to cuss, that's it. Congrats 😊
This happened to me with Astral Radiance back in the day. Pulled the Dialga alt art from one pack.
you probably haven't opened up enough boxes. Ive had many boxes from various sets, including this one. have 2 IRs not 3. It happens on about 30% of my booster boxes. So 1/13 sounds about right
1/13 for IR is correct. Many boxes opened with only 2 IRs
I opened 3 build n battle boxes and only got a slacking ex common not even a full art
Same, opened 15 packs so far and only got 1 kilowattrel ex
Those are the worst product to open, always a lot of dud packs in those.
I had better luck with silver tempest even pulled an alt art Lugia
its ALMOST as if the the packs are random.......
I was beginning to believe the PC exclusive ETBs were stacked on a sample size of 4 until I opened the last box, about £10 worth of value, not including the promo.
Soooo it took me 4 packs and the pika SIR has been secured💪🏻 I couldn’t believe it
I’ve had to stop buying boxes. Can’t keep buying boxes and getting like $5 to $10 total worth of cards from this set. I miss first year S&V where you could get 2 sir’s, or an sir and a gold from just one box.
The reason the number are off, is they probably calculate the lets say Gold CARDS to be 1 in 187.8, they time that number by 6, but give you the number 188. So youre off by 0.2 when multiplying
Pulled a gold card, a full art and second highest heidreigon ex card in a single etb get my booster box for 130$ on Friday excited to open and hope I can get my completion above 70%
Unfortunately, I've opened several booster boxes with 2 IRs :/
sleeved packs are the way to go!
@@darthsaint7743 Dude no kidding! I just got 20 sleeved packs in the mail this afternoon for surging sparks, and I pulled he Latios IR, Latias IR, and gold Night Stretcher! Along with the slakoth/appletun IR and 3 double rares. about $275 of card value for something I paid $75 for hahaha.
People don't seem to get how statistics work. Just because there is the ODDS of pulling a a specific card from 1/276 packs, DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU WILL PULL IT.
I usually say statistics and probabilities are fun, but technically just pseudo-science.
I opened 5 booster boxes 3 from 1 ebay store 1 from a lgs and 3 from another lgs pulled 3 sir cards each box that had sir had a gold as well what i got so far .
We have opened 3 booster boxes, got 2 gold, 2 SIR’s, every box had 3 IR’s and most of them had 2 Ace specs and several FA (roughly 2 per box). Those were some good boxes. We kept the rest of the case sealed, cuz it’s probably dried up😂
2 out of 7 boxes only had two IRs.
I didn’t pull a special illustration until my fourth booster box!! I opened three booster boxes 2 ETB 2 booster bundles and a three pack blister with no special illustration!! My fourth booster box got me Pikachu full art, Pikachu EX, and hydreigon special illustration!! And then another three pack blister got me Lisia’s Appeal special illustration!!
bought 3 packs today and pulled the pikachu SIR also pulled the greninja ex SIR from twilight masquerade on launch day i have some really good luck
My question is: do they manipolate just the box or also the case? For example: if you open a box of the 6 and find the rarest card are you mathematically sure the other 5 are mid?
Like could I find a Pikachu and a hydreigon in the same case, in different boxes?
This sounds about right. Maybe slightly better odds if you're only opening booster boxes. My experience was that ancillary products were much more random and about every other booster box will not have a SIR.
Unfortunately, my luck in this set has been pretty "meh" this past week. Just opened 15 more sleeved packs, only hit was freaking eggs with eyes. I'm boutta just buy the Pikachus in Japanese and call it a year. Bro really over here being $600+ raw. Absolutely ridiculous!
A guy in my local discord was selling sir pikachu for 280 before release and I'm regretting not jumping on that. Between this and the prismatic evo preorders selling out in minutes it's looking like a grim season for tcg
I’ve always pulled 3 IR’s in each S&V set, until I opened surging sparks. I only had 12 pulls with 2 IR’s, no SIR, 2 ace spec, 3 FA, and 5 ex’s.
funny thing is that i got Pikachu ex SIR on my first ETB and sold it at a card shop
🍀
@co_snowy indeed
I keep forgetting but can someone remind me. When after a set comes out should you start buying singles roughly? I know this channel always preaches dont buy on set release but how long should you wait?
I opened one boosterbox and pulled it. Then put it imediateley up on ebay for $800AUD (520USD, 410 pounds), it sold within 5 mins
1/188 seems wild🤷♂️, I pulled a counter gain and gravity mountain out of the same booster box I preordered.
Congrats! The chances of pulling two hyper rare cards in a single booster box are about 6%. You're very lucky! That's about the same odds as rolling a nat 20, by the way.
I opened one PC etb and two booster bundles. I got sylveon ex and a bruxish. That was all.
So I’ve been limited to how much I can rip but I’ve opened 3 BB and 70 sleeves, out of the 3 BB I’ve pulled 2 gold (both pikachu) and 2 SIR (one being the Lisia). Out of the 70 sleeves (all for the same box) I’ve pulled 4SIR, 2 golds. But still no pikachu. So hard to find product at good prices but it just seems to be the new normal.
Oink oink greedy piggy
Hey Ross, if you want pictures of the pulls per box, let me know where to send them. I opened 7 boxes, multiple had only two, every box with secret rare only had two Irs. And btw, pulled the pikachu on box number 7 😊.
I pulled Latias Special illustration rare on the 2nd try out of 13 booster packs.
Just pulled the Pikachu SIR and the gold Pikachu today!
I opened 4 boxes and got a gold card and 3 SIRs- Exeggutor, Latias, and Hydreigon
I pulled a SIR Pikachu from 2 booster bundles on the 10th pack
I don’t believe the 15 ppl in the comments that say they pulled all these top hits 😂😂☠️
Fine, don’t lol. I got pikachu and lisia’s appeal from two booster boxes 🤯 and then gold pikachu in the 3rd. 4th and 5th were duds.
My card shop got an etb for 45$ yesterday there holding my 130$ surging sparks BB til Friday, the etb hit a gold card the second highest heidreigon ex, and a full art lowest percentage I’ve ever gotten completion wise at 28% tho from an etb starting the set but expect after the BB opening 65-72% would be nice, seems like a good set pull rate wise but we’ll see how it goes, to the people saying I was wrong that booster boxes were only 160$+ plus maybe check out your local shops the one I went to told me it’s likely there next order they’ll have them for 120-125$ and etbs will be 40-45$ not 60$+ happy pack ripping days to you all and hope everyone enjoys the set, definitely liked it more once I started it than beforehand, still not looking forward to prismatic evo as I’m not an eeveelutions fan but until then promo hunting and Japanese BB openings is gonna be my next couple of months past this surging BB opening on Friday!
It’s usually 3 but I did get a box with 2 IRs. Not common but it does happen. That same box had an SIR so maybe it took that spot. But honestly that pikachu should be stupid expensive imo because it’s the best pikachu ever…. (it’s twerking)
I opened a booster bundle and opened the Pikachu SIR in the second pack. The pulls rates are so bad, opened a etb and another booster bundle and got hot garbage lol
I got the gold Pikachu card from the first booster box from gamestop. 😊
Awesome, i just got it from a sleeved pack.
I wonder if this set will see batching issues.
the only REAL way to know the exact rarity of the card is to know the total amount of a specific card printed, as well as how many have been pulled, as well as how many are for sale at a given time.
I got a pikachu sar in chinese and i dont know where i can check the price for it
My wife and I opened up just one 36 count booster box and pulled the pikachu, we got so lucky
I pulled the gold pikachu at the prerelease event ❤❤
My first booster box had 2 crappy IR’s and no SIRs haha so the 3 isn’t true
My 2nd box was 3 IRs and then 3 box 3 IRs and 1 sir Pikachu
Opened 14 blisters from Walmart and the best thing I got was a black kyreum trash lol
I opened 130 packs so far and don't get a single SIR, but only one gold card
Prolly the lowest pull rates I have had in SV
Opened three booster boxes and got one sir out of the three. The sir was Drayton...
I pulled a Lisa’s appeal yesterday
I got the HR jet gold energy.
I got one! 3rd pack
My wife bought 2 packs. Pulled the Pikachu
Ya I disagree with the IR'S and SIR'S. I opened 2 booster boxes where I only got 1 IR and 3 booster boxes where I hit only 2 IR'S. Me and friends have opened 3 booster boxes and didn't get a single SIR. My friend opened 4 booster boxes and didn't get any SIR'S. These pull rates are harsh.
I love it, it makes the chase cards that more desireable.
🎉 Another big pika ❤
David you don’t get anything else besides EX and commons that to build deck you’re supposed to play the game with him
3 booster boxes and 50 loose packs with no SIRs :/
1 booster box =
6 x regular ex (double rare)
2 x ACE SPEC
3 x Illustration Rare
1 x Full Art ex (ultra rare)
1 x Special Illustration Rare Trainer
1 x Gold (Trainer)
That’s early S&V pull rates. They changed for the worse paradox rift onwards. Paradox rift was only slightly worse than the early sets, Temporal forces on has the worst pull rates that are in this video.
I literally 1 packed the pikachu and TCGplayer is telling me that shit is basically 1/1000 is insane
Sure you did 😂
@@co_snowy haters gonna hate😂
@@odellkalish8634they’re coping
Pulled the SIR Pikachu in my Pokémon Center ETB🤩🥰
Istg why are the cards becoming so rare, Istg weren’t SIRs 1/40 in S&V? Also why are golf cards worth nothing when they’re so much rarer than everything else
Because it's popularity over rarity.
Pika to the mewn
I opened 6 booster packs so far. About halfway through, I pulled the SIR Pikachu. The pull rates are insane!
the pullrates are awful, you just got lucky
@@yonejc Indeed !
Best solution, keep ur booster sealed and wait singles price to drop and buy singles 😂
tcgplayer is just giving a rounded number which is why you can't straight up multiply them together to get the 1 in x pack number.
As for IR's it's definitely not as simple as 1 in 12 as there have been many booster boxes with 2 IR's in them. It's definitely not all 3 per booster box.
Havnt we been through this before ? 😅
It varies I just opened up 6 pc etb & 3 booster boxes. Rates were spread out & I got 2 pikachu one of the gold & the rainbow one. Didn’t get THE pikachu but I got multiples of really good cards & most of the cards I wanted that I didn’t think I’d get. If you are betting everything on one box it makes sense but if you get a variety you’ll be able to satisfy your thirst.
3 cases and no Pika!
On average you would need to buy 27 booster boxes to pull the Pikachu SIR...
At current market prices with tax your looking at about $4700 to pull pikachu… 5-700 doesn’t seem so bad now, does it?
@@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax agreed
@@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax I agree, people that say the pikachu sir should not be that expensive, have poop for brains.
I opened 4 booster boxes. Not 1 SIR
Damn ! That's just criminal !
I have your number one chase card
Hellow
Bro I open 196 packs and got 1 SIR: Durant EX 😂... i did get 2 gold cards tho...
first
I dont think that pikachu will stand the test of time, it has a stupid hat and the arts pretty meh, 500 dollars is far too high