Thanks for all your work Taryl and crew! I was just sitting here drinking beer and thinking how cool it would be to see Taryl on another game show video like the the one where you zap contestants with the ignition coil when they get the answer wrong,
Just had my tensioner pulley self destruct at 158 hours or three years of use (do have an hour meter on the TimeMaster), what a great video you produced. Was able to get the Exmark version of the idler and tensioner pulleys and also replaced all of the belts (tooth, drive and power to the toothed belt). I did have to remove the toothed belt pulley using an impact wrench as it would not budge with a normal wrench/ratchet. I guess I am good now for quite a few years more. Luckily the blades were not destroyed when the tensioner pulley bit the dust. Thanks so much Taryl! 5 STARS to you amigo!
Just replaced those pulleys and I went with the upgraded kit with the steel pulleys. Today the kit cost $150 but it was still well worth the money. Thank you for posting this video. Love the channel.
Great video that's exactly what I needed to know just had my let loose knew something was wrong when the blades smashed together I wish I would have seen this before I bought the cheap pulleys
I have 2021 Time Wasters and they still have the old faulty pulleys. I pulled off the cover and saw the same broken pulley as in this 2017 video. Getting ready to order the upgraded pulley kit. Toro again. sheesh
@@harryharry3193 Update: Exactly 1 week later, another one my new TimeWasters had the back idler pulley explode from the plastic bearing in the middle. So shady of Toro to have plastic bearings in the pulley. It's like giving someone a trashbag for a parachute. They know they will quickly crack from heat, exploding to pieces! Of course the blades immediately start smashing each other and also become useless. So you need a new set of twin 15 blades too. There should be a Recall on these Toro 30 Idler Pullies.
Just did this yesterday - I missed that quick section where you said "make sure the teeth are in there or you won't get the front pulley on." I had a frigging wrestling match with it to get that on.....UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It works great now though. Good video man! Thanks.
No disrespect cuz you da man Taryl. The spring plate behind the tension bolt is actually meant to be used as a gap measurement for the belt tension. Although I never used a gap measurement to adjust them, I just left a small gap between the plate and frame ( again a business card ).
I only bought the pulleys (not the whole kit) and after putting the spacer on the new pulley I still had to add another washer so that the pulley would clear the bracket. Seemed to work perfect afterwards.
Those plugs are called knockout plugs. They are used to close off unused openings in electrical panels where a wire has been removed or moved to a different location on the box. You can get them from 1/2” up to like 2”. Probably even bigger. Look in the electrical department of your favorite local hardware store. Those look like the 3/4” size, but I’d take the pulley with me to be sure to get the right size.
Love your videos Taryl.Just noticed your vice on your bench.I made a vice almost identical to that one in Grade 12 in high school..Niagara Falls Ontario.
Hey Taryl excellent upgrade video. It’s the people who own them that cause more trouble to the machine trying to cut more grass then you should. As you indicated there was a lot of crap under the cover.
I have the lower grade pully system (and smaller engine, metal collar on drive linkage) model. I pulled the cover this morning.... I'm ordering those pulleys.... both wobble
I just bought a timemaster today and just because I was curious I pulled that cover off to check the bearings. It looks like I have the old bearings!!! This video was made 3 years ago… did they go back to the old ones again or did I just get screwed?
Ok so I bought and switched out just the pulleys which was a mistake. Metal piece which holds belt tension pulley..nut keeps coming loose even after blue loctite. Guess I could've tried red loctite but ended up buying whole new pulley upgrade kit with one piece pulley tension assembly. Since installed has ran great. DO NOT WASTE UR $ ON JUST PULLEYS..BUY THE WHOLE KIT!!!!!
Hey Taryl: When you began to turn the blades by hand my hair stood on end! You might caution your viewers to pull off the spark plug wire first! Other than that your videos are great, lots of information and a few laughs make them enjoyable.
I purchased my timemaster 30" last year, June 2021. I was mowing today and had one of the idler pulleys break. It literally sheared itself off. I don't know how or why. I didn't hit anything. After watching this video, I am sad to see that my timemaster had the plastic pulleys on it. And these kits are now close to $200 now instead of $100. :(
The Exmark pulley kit is SERIOUS hardware. Quite a few steps up from the early Toro junk AND the bearings on the new set of pulleys are REPLACEABLE as well...
When adjusting the belt adjuster screw at 1” 1/8 or 1/16 what happens to the plate and shoulder bolts . Wouldn’t they have play and throw off the 1” gap ? ... i busted my synchronized belt and I’m trying to figure if it was the adjuster that was at fault . I only have 6 hrs on it and I did not hit anything or have grass clogged up .. please I’ve seen multiple videos and can’t figure that one part out . I added these commercial pulleys .
I have a new Timemaster on the way. Are u saying that it has the Exmark commercial pulleys already installed? If so that's great..one less thing to replace.
I don't know if these videos make me want to buy a TimeWaster or not. I want to buy one because it looks easy to work on - you make it all look so easy, and you have a few videos on it now for the stuff I'd probably need to do. But if you have seen them enough to have more than one video where you fixed one... maybe I don't want one? :-)
Great video but unfortunately the upgraded pulley doesn't function properly over the tensioner plate using the old spacer (my TimeWaster is 2015 model). The old spacer doesn't provide enough clearance between the top of the tensioner plate and bottom of the pulley, so the pulley makes contact with the plate instead of spinning freely. I'm going to try and put an additional spacer/shim on the underside of that pulley but from other comments that may not align with everything else properly. I will give it a go but may need to send both pulleys back for the full kit, or just go back to the old pulley design - but either way looks like I'll be eating $10 in shipping to return if I can't finagle something :(
Wish I would've saw this before I ordered mine and found this out the hard way. Commenting to hopefully help someone else who is looking to upgrade their mower with just the pulleys.
Hey Taryl...I have a 2000 year mode MTD Yard Machines Riding Mower....The Plastic idler pulley is shredded but still intact...Problem is ...I cant get the bolt out. All it does is spin. It has this big star shaped spacer on it and I see no way of removing the bolt to replace pulley. Is there a way to get that bolt out?
Hey Taryl, can i put 2 batteries on a lawn tractor? Im using my tractor this season to plow snow and i want to hook up brighter lights and i just dont want to get the other batteries get drained right away.
Great video, but I order just the pulleys and the 1 for the tensioner would not spun on the old plate. I guess I need the kit to get the new plate with pulley
Same. Bought two of the metal pulleys as listed in the video and the one that mounts to the adjustable tensioner plate will not spin unless you shim the underside with washers. After shimming it out, the idler pulley spins, but isn't in alignment with the cogged spindle pulleys. Now I have to try and return the individual pulleys and source the kit instead.
@@TheFrequency3 Same here. Bought 2 new metal pulleys and they do NOT work with existing spacer on the tensioner plate, needs to be shimmed on the underside as you say. Just bought an additional spacer for that (like a fat wahser) but sounds like that won't take care of it either based on what you're saying, havent tried it yet. Ugh.
HEY - Tartl Fixes All - I have the ss5000 and got delayed with parts NOW I need the diagram on the 2011 SS5000 - HELP The belt tensioner pully is in the back by the exhaust. I have the parts but need the routing. The belt is pretty good so not replacing the belt.
No one was going to tell me that side of a Booth (perhaps an Edwards) is like that at work,they are more of a Myers !!!! They have never wanted to rehire me & that's without explanation, I found out as I got older that my grandmother is really like that on my dads side of the family,she's a Myers. I bet if I placed hidden cameras in their workshop & I watched what they are really like from a remote location, that's what a lot of them are like in a trade. They weren't like that around me & no one could explain that to me in the beginning. I've been very worried that my high school marks have only been like theirs.
Interesting story plot son, but it still needs some polishing. Check with us next week. Meanwhile, Russell, what are you repairing in your shop today? Any useful tips regarding engine repair?
Hey Taryl...love your how-to videos. Timemaster question: Do you know if you can replace the blade brake arm assembly on the Timemaster with the upgraded one on Turfmasters? On the Timemaster's brake arm the edge of the 1/8" thick steel that the arm itself is made of rides directly on a pivot spacer type shoulder bolt and it is kept from twisting by 2 friction washers. (lousy design). The idler pulley mounted to the brake arm constantly has pressure on it which tends to want to twist that brake arm bracket. Since that arm also vibrates CONSTANTLY during operation, it wears a groove into the pivot spacer (at an angle because of the twisting forces). This puts the entire brake arm & idler pulley out of alignment and can cause excessive wear on the blade drive belt. I went through belts too quickly until I diagnosed the problem. There was a deep angled groove in that spacer pivot. The commercial Turfmaster's brake arm setup should help eliminate this problem but I don't know if the parts will transfer over. I'm asking because I took your advice on the upgraded tension pulley & bracket kit (another Turfmaster part) for the cogged blade belt and it worked perfectly.
#1: Those goldish/green bolts are Zinc-Chromate coated. ...high in Hexa-valent-Chrome. Very bad! #2: them pulleys is made from "free-machining" steel which is alloyed with LEAD! Lastly, if them pulleys are stamped: the dies are sprinkled with powdered LEAD, to reduce friction, wear, and from sticking. Just saying.
These 2 "shoulder" bolts come LOOSE. They have no nut or lock washer or metal/plastic insert. The frame that they thread into strips. I have the 21199 Timemaster ~15 times per week for my small business.
Dangerous materials - should you not be wearing your hazmat suit, eye protection and a face mask? Doing an instructional video and not showing your audience that you are wearing the proper clothing for a dangerous job is irresponsible....oh, wait, you’re not in California. Never mind.....
i like all the videos usually,christine being favorite,but this one wasnt up to par with the rest,it is upsetting i have commented before needing help with no replies,but you reply to this lol.can't wait to see next video.im actually doing research on a peerless transaxle now.mst-205-509E.also trying to find a place where i can order fuel shutoffs and fuel filters and gas line in bulk.
I think its awesome you give part numbers and options!!
You definitely did a phenomenal job in a descriptive breakdown. Appreciate it!!!
Thanks for all your work Taryl and crew!
I was just sitting here drinking beer and thinking how cool it would be to see Taryl on another game show video like the the one where you zap contestants with the ignition coil when they get the answer wrong,
Just had my tensioner pulley self destruct at 158 hours or three years of use (do have an hour meter on the TimeMaster), what a great video you produced. Was able to get the Exmark version of the idler and tensioner pulleys and also replaced all of the belts (tooth, drive and power to the toothed belt). I did have to remove the toothed belt pulley using an impact wrench as it would not budge with a normal wrench/ratchet. I guess I am good now for quite a few years more. Luckily the blades were not destroyed when the tensioner pulley bit the dust. Thanks so much Taryl! 5 STARS to you amigo!
Mine exploded yesterday at 163 hours
Just replaced those pulleys and I went with the upgraded kit with the steel pulleys. Today the kit cost $150 but it was still well worth the money. Thank you for posting this video. Love the channel.
Great video that's exactly what I needed to know just had my let loose knew something was wrong when the blades smashed together I wish I would have seen this before I bought the cheap pulleys
woke up feeling under the weather this morning, feeling better since I watched your video, thanks 🤣
Pure Awesomeness!!! Thanks Taryl for all the information on this upgrade. And excellent camera work by the camera man too!
Great vid...saw my name in the credits.that's awesome! You guys are the best👍😎🍻
Glen Rines I want my name in credits
Glen, spelled with one N, that's the right way ;-)
Ozzstar that's rite.👍
Thank you Tarly for sharing your videos I am ordering one
tonight from Amazon.
I have 2021 Time Wasters and they still have the old faulty pulleys. I pulled off the cover and saw the same broken pulley as in this 2017 video. Getting ready to order the upgraded pulley kit. Toro again. sheesh
TORO produced a parts profit machine.
i just ordered a set from chicago lawn and garden...101 150 everywhere else.
@@harryharry3193 Good to know. I am bookmarking chicago lawn and garden
@@harryharry3193 Update: Exactly 1 week later, another one my new TimeWasters had the back idler pulley explode from the plastic bearing in the middle. So shady of Toro to have plastic bearings in the pulley. It's like giving someone a trashbag for a parachute. They know they will quickly crack from heat, exploding to pieces! Of course the blades immediately start smashing each other and also become useless. So you need a new set of twin 15 blades too. There should be a Recall on these Toro 30 Idler Pullies.
Worked like a charm, TY so much.
Just did this yesterday - I missed that quick section where you said "make sure the teeth are in there or you won't get the front pulley on." I had a frigging wrestling match with it to get that on.....UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It works great now though. Good video man! Thanks.
Great video Taryl! I did the same thing with my wallet once! Thought I lost it but it was in my hand!
No disrespect cuz you da man Taryl. The spring plate behind the tension bolt is actually meant to be used as a gap measurement for the belt tension. Although I never used a gap measurement to adjust them, I just left a small gap between the plate and frame ( again a business card ).
I think I read .010
Another one of the great informational video with laughs.
Thanks for the great information and funny presentation!
Congrats Dactal family! I knew you'd win!
I pray for you guys to win you guys won
Thanks for making me laugh! And I especially thank you for the info!
I only bought the pulleys (not the whole kit) and after putting the spacer on the new pulley I still had to add another washer so that the pulley would clear the bracket. Seemed to work perfect afterwards.
Love you guys ! From Simi Valley California 👍
I appreciate the channel man
Those plugs are called knockout plugs. They are used to close off unused openings in electrical panels where a wire has been removed or moved to a different location on the box. You can get them from 1/2” up to like 2”. Probably even bigger. Look in the electrical department of your favorite local hardware store. Those look like the 3/4” size, but I’d take the pulley with me to be sure to get the right size.
Thanks great video, since I'm about to upgrade pulleys. The only thing you should have added would be to remove that shock cable.... safety first!
How to videos w/ a comic flair. Thank you Taryl et al!
Good luck guys
Your the best.
Love your videos Taryl.Just noticed your vice on your bench.I made a vice almost identical to that one in Grade 12 in high school..Niagara Falls Ontario.
Hey Taryl excellent upgrade video. It’s the people who own them that cause more trouble to the machine trying to cut more grass then you should. As you indicated there was a lot of crap under the cover.
I hope you guys win
I guess I got the 9 ball this morning.
Good video guys.
I have the lower grade pully system (and smaller engine, metal collar on drive linkage) model. I pulled the cover this morning.... I'm ordering those pulleys.... both wobble
I just bought a timemaster today and just because I was curious I pulled that cover off to check the bearings. It looks like I have the old bearings!!! This video was made 3 years ago… did they go back to the old ones again or did I just get screwed?
Ok so I bought and switched out just the pulleys which was a mistake. Metal piece which holds belt tension pulley..nut keeps coming loose even after blue loctite. Guess I could've tried red loctite but ended up buying whole new pulley upgrade kit with one piece pulley tension assembly. Since installed has ran great. DO NOT WASTE UR $ ON JUST PULLEYS..BUY THE WHOLE KIT!!!!!
Thank you
Hey Taryl: When you began to turn the blades by hand my hair stood on end! You might caution your viewers to pull off the spark plug wire first! Other than that your videos are great, lots of information and a few laughs make them enjoyable.
Understand your concern, but on the Timemaster uses a blade brake and has no direct connection to the crankshaft.
HAHA beer taster . Love it
I purchased my timemaster 30" last year, June 2021. I was mowing today and had one of the idler pulleys break. It literally sheared itself off. I don't know how or why. I didn't hit anything. After watching this video, I am sad to see that my timemaster had the plastic pulleys on it. And these kits are now close to $200 now instead of $100. :(
Thank you!!
If you buy the pulleys separate, do they also include the center dust cap with it or is there a separate part number for that? Thanks.
most companies give a decent deal on updated parts because of a flaw with the original. $100 is crazy for a couple idle pulleys on a lawnmower.
The Exmark pulley kit is SERIOUS hardware. Quite a few steps up from the early Toro junk AND the bearings on the new set of pulleys are REPLACEABLE as well...
$147 now
Can I ask why the cable isn't in the loop? I adjusted mine to be in the loop and it no longer squeals and runs on demand. I just bought one. 😁
When adjusting the belt adjuster screw at 1” 1/8 or 1/16 what happens to the plate and shoulder bolts . Wouldn’t they have play and throw off the 1” gap ? ... i busted my synchronized belt and I’m trying to figure if it was the adjuster that was at fault . I only have 6 hrs on it and I did not hit anything or have grass clogged up .. please I’ve seen multiple videos and can’t figure that one part out . I added these commercial pulleys .
Hey brother!! Is that back idler supposed to spin?? Cause when I tighten mine up on my brand new mower it doesn’t spin at all.
I have a new Timemaster on the way. Are u saying that it has the Exmark commercial pulleys already installed? If so that's great..one less thing to replace.
I don't know if these videos make me want to buy a TimeWaster or not. I want to buy one because it looks easy to work on - you make it all look so easy, and you have a few videos on it now for the stuff I'd probably need to do. But if you have seen them enough to have more than one video where you fixed one... maybe I don't want one? :-)
Can you do a video on the brake arm replacement and the pulley on the brake arm for the Toro TimeMaster? This would be really helpful.
i have a new timemaster and the old crummy pullies!! so dont think they upgraded, maybe just for the turfmaster . thanks for the vid!!
Great video but unfortunately the upgraded pulley doesn't function properly over the tensioner plate using the old spacer (my TimeWaster is 2015 model). The old spacer doesn't provide enough clearance between the top of the tensioner plate and bottom of the pulley, so the pulley makes contact with the plate instead of spinning freely. I'm going to try and put an additional spacer/shim on the underside of that pulley but from other comments that may not align with everything else properly. I will give it a go but may need to send both pulleys back for the full kit, or just go back to the old pulley design - but either way looks like I'll be eating $10 in shipping to return if I can't finagle something :(
I bought one today, the DOM was October of 2019, it still has the old pulleys on it.
Good video. The upgraded pulleys will not work with the old tensioner bracket.
Wish I would've saw this before I ordered mine and found this out the hard way. Commenting to hopefully help someone else who is looking to upgrade their mower with just the pulleys.
Same issue. Returned the 2 pulleys I had bought and purchased the 126-7890 kit with the new bracket. The new idler bracket part # is
You can put a washer under the spacer and they work perfectly.
Wish I would read all these comments before buying just pulleys… 😒
The correct term for those plugs are called "knock out seals"
The spindle bearings used on this model will also fit .Toro 38-7820 is what I used because I didn’t see your video on time.
Hey Taryl...I have a 2000 year mode MTD Yard Machines Riding Mower....The Plastic idler pulley is shredded but still intact...Problem is ...I cant get the bolt out. All it does is spin. It has this big star shaped spacer on it and I see no way of removing the bolt to replace pulley. Is there a way to get that bolt out?
Taryl can you do a vid on the early toro time waster transmission problems
thanks for the vid ... oh and taryl .. I would pay a dollar to see you throw it slippers head LOL .. have a good day .. †
Do a show putting high performance engine on it.
Do you know if the new pullies come on the newer timemaster?
Hey Taryl, can i put 2 batteries on a lawn tractor? Im using my tractor this season to plow snow and i want to hook up brighter lights and i just dont want to get the other batteries get drained right away.
Hey Great video! Question, I just blew a pulley. Can this cause the engine to lock up at all?
No, but if the timing belt comes off, you could have a blade collision.
Watched ur video thanks
Great video, but I order just the pulleys and the 1 for the tensioner would not spun on the old plate. I guess I need the kit to get the new plate with pulley
Same. Bought two of the metal pulleys as listed in the video and the one that mounts to the adjustable tensioner plate will not spin unless you shim the underside with washers. After shimming it out, the idler pulley spins, but isn't in alignment with the cogged spindle pulleys. Now I have to try and return the individual pulleys and source the kit instead.
@@TheFrequency3 Same here. Bought 2 new metal pulleys and they do NOT work with existing spacer on the tensioner plate, needs to be shimmed on the underside as you say. Just bought an additional spacer for that (like a fat wahser) but sounds like that won't take care of it either based on what you're saying, havent tried it yet. Ugh.
FYI I just price checked..pulleys are around $45 each..u can get the whole kit for $108 shipped. Not much savings buying just pulleys.
Now if the motor goes can you use a different motor from another type of mower
HEY - Tartl Fixes All - I have the ss5000 and got delayed with parts NOW I need the diagram on the 2011 SS5000 - HELP The belt tensioner pully is in the back by the exhaust. I have the parts but need the routing. The belt is pretty good so not replacing the belt.
1/4 to 1/2 inch deflection for belt tension
Alright graduations
I bet Junior's going to slip on that old pulley you threw and have a workman's comp case in the next video.
No one was going to tell me that side of a Booth (perhaps an Edwards) is like that at work,they are more of a Myers !!!!
They have never wanted to rehire me & that's without explanation, I found out as I got older that my grandmother is really like that on my dads side of the family,she's a Myers.
I bet if I placed hidden cameras in their workshop & I watched what they are really like from a remote location, that's what a lot of them are like in a trade.
They weren't like that around me & no one could explain that to me in the beginning.
I've been very worried that my high school marks have only been like theirs.
Interesting story plot son, but it still needs some polishing. Check with us next week.
Meanwhile, Russell, what are you repairing in your shop today?
Any useful tips regarding engine repair?
Timewaster. Yep!
Hey Taryl...love your how-to videos. Timemaster question: Do you know if you can replace the blade brake arm assembly on the Timemaster with the upgraded one on Turfmasters? On the Timemaster's brake arm the edge of the 1/8" thick steel that the arm itself is made of rides directly on a pivot spacer type shoulder bolt and it is kept from twisting by 2 friction washers. (lousy design). The idler pulley mounted to the brake arm constantly has pressure on it which tends to want to twist that brake arm bracket. Since that arm also vibrates CONSTANTLY during operation, it wears a groove into the pivot spacer (at an angle because of the twisting forces). This puts the entire brake arm & idler pulley out of alignment and can cause excessive wear on the blade drive belt. I went through belts too quickly until I diagnosed the problem. There was a deep angled groove in that spacer pivot.
The commercial Turfmaster's brake arm setup should help eliminate this problem but I don't know if the parts will transfer over. I'm asking because I took your advice on the upgraded tension pulley & bracket kit (another Turfmaster part) for the cogged blade belt and it worked perfectly.
yes you can
@@AbouTto_ I ended up doing this quite a while ago along with repowering the mower (Kohler CV224), but thanks for the reply anyway!
Can you do a video on a 2 stroke lawnboy carb rebuild 6.5 hp .... ?
JIM BOLIN we don't have one to do a video on
These mowers are constantly being repaired. Taryl has more vids on these than any other?
people been known to eat those pullys in California
Throw slippers over the fence..lol..👞👞👞
So what are You going to do with that $20,000.oo Taryl ...!!!!!
Jack Assman probably build the world's fist turbo push mower.... LMAO
Hahahahaha... Rich Mann..... Other 48 states.. LMAO
Where are the kubota mower videos. Am I the only one that owns 1? 22 years old and it needs help! HELP!
#1: Those goldish/green bolts are Zinc-Chromate coated. ...high in Hexa-valent-Chrome. Very bad! #2: them pulleys is made from "free-machining" steel which is alloyed with LEAD! Lastly, if them pulleys are stamped: the dies are sprinkled with powdered LEAD, to reduce friction, wear, and from sticking. Just saying.
These 2 "shoulder" bolts come LOOSE. They have no nut or lock washer or metal/plastic insert. The frame that they thread into strips. I have the 21199 Timemaster ~15 times per week for my small business.
I can’t make out if that’s a real beard or not.
Speaking as an Englishman,do you say tomato or tomato?
Gary Burns I live in Michigan, we say tomato. How do you say it? Tomato?
So how do you say potato?
Gary Burns Potato? What's a potato? We call them 'taters.
We call 'em spuds!
Gary Burns we don't call 'em that, to avoid confusion with spuds mackenzie.
4th!!
lol
Third
lol
second
lol
If you wear gloves when replacing those pulleys you won't get cancer. Maybe.
hey tarly, look at my crappy lawn mower video
first
Lol.
Dangerous materials - should you not be wearing your hazmat suit, eye protection and a face mask? Doing an instructional video and not showing your audience that you are wearing the proper clothing for a dangerous job is irresponsible....oh, wait, you’re not in California. Never mind.....
Wow that is a bad design.
that was disappointing neither had anything to do with mowers.
jeff mcpeak 😢
i like all the videos usually,christine being favorite,but this one wasnt up to par with the rest,it is upsetting i have commented before needing help with no replies,but you reply to this lol.can't wait to see next video.im actually doing research on a peerless transaxle now.mst-205-509E.also trying to find a place where i can order fuel shutoffs and fuel filters and gas line in bulk.