This episode can be summarize in just one sentence: "Thai PM wants to build a canal/railway/port in their own territory but India has concerns on the project as it could give China strategic advantage in the Indian ocean, and wish (and hope) that the project never take place"
Ya lah... that's how this long winded man make his money🤑 He also suggested india to play the spoiler role in case the project materializes. He sounded confident that india will find a way to derail the project. Thats the kind of hubristic bravado in indian media these when talking about China😜. But i doubt the project will happen construction cost is going to be astronomical bcos there's a mountain/hill range that run a few100km north-south in the isthmus area. So its not just simple flat terrain the canal has to cut through.
"Doodle" means that Thailand wants to join up with China. So now Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand are also with china. On the other side of India, Oman, Iran, Qatar, etc are also against India. Looks like, the squeeze is on both sides of India.
The port development in southern Kerala near Trivandrum is the real game changer of India. The largest mother port of India. Deeper than Mundra and Colombo port. And very near to International shipping lane.
@@deepblue3682 ports in Mumbai and Gujarat will become subsidiaries for this mother port. Right now bigger ships can't dock at Indian ports. They dock at Colombo or Singapore and Indian companies ferry it to Chennai, Mundra etc. With this deep port the ships can directly dock and unload. Tamil nadu is a manufacturing hub of south. They also have good highways to south near this port. The largest crane in India reached the new port last week. It is the largest in India.
Its not just about India, Thailand and China. One important player who will suffer catastrophic economic downturn would be Singapore. Their entire economy is built on acting as a trade outpost, if this canal is built the country would lose all its value.
Don't be silly.stupid and foolish dev?? You don't know how to run a nation? That why you are at fear?? For other smart people?? We believes there is no problem at all??? Why you so silly worry for Singapore?? You should worry for India?? And usa?? Instead ?
Thailand may have a history influenced by classical Indian civilization, but modern Thailand has a large cadre of wealthy, mixed Thai-Chinese businessman. Follow the money.
By that logic... Almost all the south east Asians have Chinese ancestors and Chinese are related to South eastern ancestors. It's only about money. Taiwan is Chinese too.
India will hav to deal properly with rising China. Continuous anti China rhetoric won’t help. China has all the rights to develop to influence others as much as any other country. Everything China does is not made to put India in trouble. That’s just viewing things in a very silly and small way.
If india is capable of blocking Malaca straits, why can’t we block this route also? From the map, the route appears to pass even closer to Andaman Islands.
@@TheGreatVivek7one former Indian admiral mentioned in a conference that it is impossible for India to block the straits.. There are too many nations using the straits and any blockage will cause tremendous international pressure on India... And secondly, China has military facility on a Myanmar island not far from the nicobar island...
the idea of cutting canal across the isthmus was mooted by the Chinese some time back then rather abruptly this plan was shelved probably because the location of Andaman & Nicobar islands would give the Indians a strategic advantage much like the Malacca Straits therefore this new canal would also constitute a choke point , advantage India
that's delusional, Indian ocean is now owned by India alone, Yes Bay of Bengal and other can be described ad backyard of India, But rest of it under international waterways, China will just bypass it bu using Kra Canal and help of Sumatra Island and connecting through Lankan Port which they own. They can simply avoid getting near of Andaman, If you understand map and international territory.
@@backemf89 hello before you call others delusional , put on your soda glasses and study the map of the Andaman sea ( preferably a navigation chart if you are literate enough to read one ) rather carefully and hopefully next time you will ensure you get to know your facts before going and shooting your off your mouth in a public forum such as this. For your knowledge I have elaborated as follows :- The proposed location of the canal cutting across the narrowest section ( approx 40-48 km)of the isthmus of Kra is between Chumphon & Kra Buri ( both located in Thailand ). For a merchant vessel heading westbound after exiting the theoretical canal would be sailing head on towards the Andaman & Nicobar Archipelago made up of 572 islands and the largest coral reef ecosystem in the Indian Ocean . Although the shortest navigational route would be through the 10 degree channel separating Little Andaman island & Car Nicobar island, this passage would probably by then become out of bound for international shipping, therefore merchant vessels would have no choice but to deviate southbound along the Nicobar island chain and pass through the Great Nicobar Island & the Port of Bander Aceh ( tip of Sumatra ) which would merge with the sea traffic enroute to / from Malacca Straits. So if you still have your soda glasses on and following the navigation chart as per my instructions, you will hopefully realise how easy it would be for couple of Indian nuclear submarines to cover both these choke points and probably that was the reason why the Chinese lost interest in the canal project rather quickly especially after the QUAD was reactivated, predominantly to counter China in the indo pacific .
The Panama & Suez canals both offer a bypass around whole continents; the Malay peninsula is much smaller. Is it enough of an advantage to justify the investment?
That's the Kra Isthmus. Thailand has been mulling this project for a very long time. To imply during his opening the PM was bored during an important Chinese summit in which 130 countries attended is mischevious and shows his intellectual bankruptcy.
1) The height of the interior mountain chain of the Kra Isthmus is 75 m compared to the highest on the Panama Canal which is 64 m. 2) Panama Canal saves 15,000 KM compared to 1,200 KM. 3) Roughly 14,000 vessels transit the Panama Canal a year, while in 2014 over 79,000 vessels transited the Malacca Straits. So even if it is built it wont take over the Malaka Strait. I am not even sure if it will be economical in the long term.
The key thing here is the toll fee they'll charge. This will be calculated based on return on investment in the construction cost and length of time for repayment. If Toll is too low it may not make the project commercially viable. Too high only few will use it as it only saves 1200 or 2 extra days travel time.
@@SodiumSyndicate I agree. In fact, the distance is even shorter than 1200. My measurement using Google maps measure tool shows only 600-700km distance is the difference. This makes building the canal even less viable.
All mode and multi-mode of transportation suggested have to be compared 'per kilometer per ton' to see whether the proposals are economically feasible cost wise.
How could India possibly prevent this if China and Thailand decide to go ahead? 😂. It cannot even prevent its immediate small neighbor srilanka from working with China. That's the problem... India always tried to subtract, not add to anything.
Because India is kind unlike China,it doesnt use its hard hand Moreover,you come back and reply when this corridor is announced.Till then keep crying..which will be forever.
@@kirankoti6316 lol...indians are one of the most 'hard handed' people whenever they have just a little power. Look at how your poor are treated. Look at your caste system. Look at how you try to order small neighbors like Bhutan, Nepal, SriLanka, Maldives around. Look at how Indians boast when your economy goes up a little. Look at the words Indians always use... Crush, humiliate, dominate, school etc
I watched this program with interest. I disagree with your conclusion that a Canal or a road/ rail transit corridor through Thailand represents a threat to Indian East Coast. Because if India has the ability to Dominate the Malacca Straits. Then the same capacity also permits India to dominate any PRC presence in Thailand.
The Chinese navy is ten times more powerful than the Indian one, if India thinks it can block the Malacca strait, then China would certainly be able to break that blockade.
That's a nice story. Haven't heard about it anywhere else. Thailand isn't directly involved in the SCS dispute. I didn't even know that Thailand is a treaty bound Ally of the US, is the treaty as strong as one with the Philippines?
Thailand has no dispute in the South China Sea. And Thailand has no security Treaty with the US. Thailand used to host the US military base during the Vietnam War but it has long ceased. Thailand of late buys some military equipment from China.
I'm glad you liked this episode, Jaydeep. It was a very interesting one for me to do as well. Thank you for supporting our journalism...best wishes, Shekhar
Like Mandela used to say, there are fools who think their enemy should be our enemy. Who said indonesia,Malaysia and Singapore will help the defunct Quad to stop china's passage in Malacca strait? They have the Chinese as their biggest trading partner, and they are the greatest supporter of Belt and Road initiatives.
Hey there CCP's employee, you're talking about the SEA which is suffocated and subjugated by China right! Speaking of Mandela, if we're to take the east Asia as a whole, it's an apartheid zone controlled by China keeping the small minorities in servitude. SEA's wealth comes from its trade to west, China just jumped on that train, as usual without buying a ticket. SEA won't kneel to China, CCP may own the politicians and businessmen but it doesn't own the people.
Interesting, but China is also the second biggest trading partner to India, which trades more than other Asian nations. Yet both the countries do not agree on borer issues. Similarly, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore have issues in the South China Sea, Do you think these Asian nations agree with China's claim on the South China Sea?
@@not_so_genius3642 at least these ASEAN countries know what outside poweres are up to, that is to create division in the region to maintain their hegemony. They believe in amicable negotiation to solve their difference, the long trusted way that keep everyone's territory intact for thousands of years.
Chinese have Navy in Combodia and a high speed train from Kunming to thailand and Cambodia. With this canal china can supply goods from n to Zunan,Qinghai and Tibet.
Will these countries will they die and be pro china not pro west or neutral be rich and safe for you to do anything 😅 see china will be down it's bad on china to go for war . Be happy in what you have . We have bases in andaman and nicobar to usa we get quad military India will be secure even canal will face bases both islands more
@@MattsFikezolo-lo7wq anyone build roads rails or canaly its always profitable for china as goods they transport are always chinese. What India produce?? Nothing , we don't produce 10% of China and thats why China was happy abut IMEC as India produce not much and Saudi produce nothing. In the end it will be Chinese goods which we export by value added like pharmaceuticals. And China is not going to attack India but can push Pakistan to do some shrarat.
It’s very unlikely to happen, it will cost 55 billion usd , assuming everything happens as planned. And it’s not like the malacca strait will stop , so maybe it will never be profitable as well
55 billion is less than CPEC in Pakistan. What's the problem? China needs to use all the dollars it accumulates every single month in surpluses anyway.. In case those dollars become more and more useless
@@Jkl62200 CPEC connects China to Arabian/Indian, where none exists especially if you look at china Africa goods movement. Kra Canal will not provide any such benefit.
@@utkarshshukla i was talking about cost. its estimated at 27B but even 55B as suggested isnt a problem if they want do it. Kra Canal certainly removes a lot of the "blockade of malacca straits" too, given China has bases in SCS, Cambodia and soon Myanmar
@@Jkl62200 Kra Canal does not helps much with the blockade. If you look it opens right up to the Andaman Islands. Also one thing you dont know is depth. The depth in that area is too less for large ships. Find more about the depths. If it has not been so, it would have already been done.
Canal of kra is a need of china to get relief from Malacca straight s dilemma and it's specially being built to cater to the trade with Myanmar and Bangladesh to china and vice versa
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The West is playing a strategic game to not let India and China function as partners, just like they prevented Russia and China. Why you ask? 1.Think about it the top 2 largest population with tremendous manpower in every sector and advancing technologies. 2. 2nd and soon to be 3rd largest economy globally. Instead the West cleverly has been very proactive in India's neighbourhood, to basically de-stabilise this entire region. The best example, as of now is Nepal. Multiple plots are brewing in Nepal, and are worrying by Indian perspective/POV.
Doesn't make much sense... For reducing 1200 Nm...no charterer will go till these extents... High value cargo would just be placed on ships which can go faster
If Indonesia has problems with China, why did they build the fast railway line from Jakarta to Bandung with Chinese help? Did their problems emerge after the project was started?
I mean even India does more trade with China than Indonesia. In fact, India and China are partner countries in BRICS and SCO. Yet they fight for border issues. I don't see a reason for your argument
@@Liboch WOrld leaders have visited India for G20 that doesn't mean they are all pro-India and have no issues with India. Business and Politics can be aligned and disaligned whenever they need
@@not_so_genius3642 1) I am not saying Indonesia is pro China but I more or less alluding that they do not have major problem between them. 2) BRI is a China-led initiative where as G20 is not an Indian-led organisation.
Andaman and nicobar islanders have been occupied by India after the end of the British empire. They must be liberated and the those native islander can achieve their freedom. No more occupation
Kalash and native Chitralis, Baltis, have been occupied and ill treated by Pakistan after the end of the British Raj. They must be liberated, and then the native mountaineers can achieve their freedom. No more occupation !
How this purported canal is enviornmentally destructive when the projects in Anadaman and Nicobar are not? I wonder how conveniently people (mis)use this environment agrument when it comes to their ownself.
Buddhism (long oppressed in India) , not Hinduism. Today Thailand has far more interactions with Lao and China than India. And almost all the tycoons in Thailand are ethnic Chinese. Tough for India.
This canal is of no use. India's Andaman and Nicobar islands form a unsinkable barrier which can easily be used to choke any shipping routes including this canal.
To counter this it's high time India proposes a Vande BIMSTEC International Rail corridor for tourism and freight connecting all capital cities of BIMSTEC and Ho Chin Minh of Vietnam with Kolkata. And Kolkata -Mundra freight corridor can connect it with IMEC. Funding can be done through the QUAD and ASEAN options.. I believe that would be the most strategic and optimized supply chain and regional tourism promotion option...
Let them build it. Its more closer to Indian navy and nuclear submarine deployment area. If they chose the other Indonesian way its far away from Indian influence but rather they chose this. US and India can easily interfere in oil shipments to China through this route.
India is not a factor, at least is not a significant factor in China’s play book. India should think rationally and take care India herself rather than worry about China everyday.
@@frankm6218 or a simple line drawn by the Chinese. Just like the ludicrous 7 dash or 9 dash line "border line" encompassing a whole sea. Borders are drawn on maps at some point or the other.
You are a true Vishwa Guru, uncle. "India dominates the Malacca Straits because one of the Nicobar Islands is close to the mouth of the straits." That's simply brilliant.
India is a great culture and its people are intelligent. But England had destroyed India big time when it colonised India for 200+ years. In 1947 India gained independence and new China was formed in 1949 after almost a hundred years of Western bully. In those beginning years China was poorer than India who even had to lease her aircrafts to China for their political leaders as Indian Airlines had bn established but China had not had an airline nor many functional aircrafts yet. The border War of 1960s was as a result of Western’s instigations of India who wrongly thought her borders with China were not negotiable which were unfairly drawn by their previous English masters. India has come a long way esp. her GDP has surpassed that of UK last years but China has become much larger than both combined. India will improve greatly if she can concentrate more on her economic development such as upgrading her infra, eradication of illiteracy & poverty etc and less on international politics esp. now that d West is going to make use of her to be antagonistic against China. Apart from d barometer of GDP, Olympic or Asian Game scoreboard performances can also gauge a nation’s organisational powers which India has a long way to catch up with that of China.
Sad to see SG resorting to fear mongering. Firstly, why talk of a canal when the proposal is of a land bridge? Secondly, if Bharat can choke the Malacca Strait, I guess this canal can be choked more easily because it would be much nearer to the Andamans, just about 400 odd kms from Bharat's maritime economic zone. As a matter of fact, I would love to have this canal built. It would give Bharat exclusive power to choke CCP trade, something which even Indonesia can do now as trade passes through Malacca St. Also, one mustn't forget what happened of Gwadar. If Bharat can do that in enemy territory, this would be almost in our backyard.
i dont know how it is any different for India here... none the less Chinese vessels have to pass through Indian waters or Indonesian waters and if these countries want they can still block Chinese vessels just like before... i think they just want trade benefits.
1 cut trade route short, which save alot of time, enegey, i. e. Money.. 2. Malaca is controled by us military .. Avoid the risks. 3. Thai is land country which China will easily access from land. 4. Thai has traditionally been politically close to China. 5. India is not military threat to China, which common concensus in China. China has many ways to constraint india. Now you get the idea?
China railway from Rangoon Myanmar to laos vientine to Yunnan kunming will be operational In 2030 from srilanka port to Rangoon is very convenient.thailand has been begging china for 20 years. But it's only feasible if have massive gas and oil findings in this isythmus
What Thailand does it’s for her benefit not India’s. India should stop moaning incessantly or be obsessed about China like it’s a national pastime but devote her energies instead to improving the lot of her people from extreme poverty like China has done.
Well If they don't want the mallaca strait then they need to divide Thailand That road will go through Thailand And India will not let that happen India will also take away island from Myanmar to lay seige on the opening to indian option
We listen you mention thai monarchy??we worry that you will be arrest on the spot if you in thailand soil for criticism the thailand monarchy??? So you better not visit thailand anymore for your own safety? Or you suddenly send to jail ???
It's not possible for a century or so even with sustained Western ties. The Himalayan borders are volatile and nothing can be done to secure them for the time-being.
0. Shekhar has a habit of talking endlessly for explaining something which can be finished in 10 minutes max! 1. Having ports on both the side instead of Kran canal is a new idea and perhaps worth exploring. 2. However, Quad and in particular India, will simply not allow it to happen under BRI! So the port on the Indian side can be given to India and others and the other side port can be given to the Chinese. As long as the project is purely commercial, it is fine and not otherwise. Period. 3. In any case, nothing on this will happen for a long time and in any case, how long this joker will remain the PM in Thailand?
Quiz time, name any classic Indian dynasty that had any power over the people on islands in the Andaman Sea. Apparently victims of colonialism has some advantages. Compliments to the Brits.
The Chola dynasty, a prominent South Indian dynasty that ruled from the 9th to the 13th centuries, had influence and control over parts of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Andaman Sea. The Cholas were known for their maritime power and trade, and they extended their influence over various regions, including the islands in the Bay of Bengal.
Strait of malacca is choke point of chinese oil Thailand wants to solve problem by making a artificial canal and get money through taxes. It is good for thailand - atleas as hype, but doesnt solve chinese military problems of India controlling andaman and nicobar...
I fail to see the 'advantage' of: 1 - Unloading a container from one ship, 2 - Sending it by rail about 50 kilometers & 3 - Reloading it onto another ship VERSUS Simply traveling an additional 1,200 km on original ship _(Save 2 days but incur significant additional cost)_
It won't be successful because, whatever the 4 days time and fuel saved by using this new rail/road connecting sea ports gives, it will be wasted on unloading from ship, loading on train, unloading it from train then again loading on to another ship...the unloading and loading will cost too much. Panama and Suez canals are successful because it cuts travel time drastically and also the same ship moves through the canal, and doesn't require any cargo unloading and loading.
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This episode can be summarize in just one sentence: "Thai PM wants to build a canal/railway/port in their own territory but India has concerns on the project as it could give China strategic advantage in the Indian ocean, and wish (and hope) that the project never take place"
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Ya lah... that's how this long winded man make his money🤑 He also suggested india to play the spoiler role in case the project materializes. He sounded confident that india will find a way to derail the project. Thats the kind of hubristic bravado in indian media these when talking about China😜. But i doubt the project will happen construction cost is going to be astronomical bcos there's a mountain/hill range that run a few100km north-south in the isthmus area. So its not just simple flat terrain the canal has to cut through.
Exactly! This vblogger really thought that India can block a possible project that to be done in another country’s territory
"Doodle" means that Thailand wants to join up with China. So now Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand are also with china. On the other side of India, Oman, Iran, Qatar, etc are also against India. Looks like, the squeeze is on both sides of India.
Thank you, I am spared of the unnecessary prologue .
The port development in southern Kerala near Trivandrum is the real game changer of India. The largest mother port of India. Deeper than Mundra and Colombo port. And very near to International shipping lane.
But almost no industry in kerala, so whats the change for industries in mumbai or gujrath with this port?..
@@deepblue3682 ports in Mumbai and Gujarat will become subsidiaries for this mother port. Right now bigger ships can't dock at Indian ports. They dock at Colombo or Singapore and Indian companies ferry it to Chennai, Mundra etc. With this deep port the ships can directly dock and unload.
Tamil nadu is a manufacturing hub of south. They also have good highways to south near this port.
The largest crane in India reached the new port last week. It is the largest in India.
Actually all ports in India are quite small
@@deepblue3682 It's the mother port for rest of the ports in india
Only problem is church funded "environmentalist"
We had suggested to paste a map of area being discussed a week ago and they heard it. Kudos to the team, Very helpful.
Its not just about India, Thailand and China. One important player who will suffer catastrophic economic downturn would be Singapore. Their entire economy is built on acting as a trade outpost, if this canal is built the country would lose all its value.
Don't be silly.stupid and foolish dev??
You don't know how to run a nation? That why you are at fear?? For other smart people?? We believes there is no problem at all??? Why you so silly worry for Singapore?? You should worry for India?? And usa?? Instead ?
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Singapore is a financial, educational and high tech hub...keppel fels is shrinking!
Don't talk about things you don't know about. This isn't colonial times like Indians think
Not canel
As usual, superb analysis.
Thanks Shekar ji 😊
Thailand may have a history influenced by classical Indian civilization, but modern Thailand has a large cadre of wealthy, mixed Thai-Chinese businessman. Follow the money.
Most of the political elites including almost all of the PMs have Chinese ancestry, they are Buddhists, some of them also observe Chinese tradition.
By that logic... Almost all the south east Asians have Chinese ancestors and Chinese are related to South eastern ancestors.
It's only about money.
Taiwan is Chinese too.
India will hav to deal properly with rising China. Continuous anti China rhetoric won’t help. China has all the rights to develop to influence others as much as any other country. Everything China does is not made to put India in trouble. That’s just viewing things in a very silly and small way.
I wish what you said could be true. Everything China does is not made to put India in trouble, but some of them are done to put India in trouble.
If india is capable of blocking Malaca straits, why can’t we block this route also? From the map, the route appears to pass even closer to Andaman Islands.
It would mean antagonizing Thailand Also it would reduce Chinese dependence on the strait of Malacca
Haha, a weak country trying to block the way of a strong country who can't even win.😢😅😂
@@TheGreatVivek7one former Indian admiral mentioned in a conference that it is impossible for India to block the straits.. There are too many nations using the straits and any blockage will cause tremendous international pressure on India... And secondly, China has military facility on a Myanmar island not far from the nicobar island...
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The image is Kra canal proposed by Thailand as alternative to strait of malacca
the idea of cutting canal across the isthmus was mooted by the Chinese some time back then rather abruptly this plan was shelved probably because the location of Andaman & Nicobar islands would give the Indians a strategic advantage much like the Malacca Straits therefore this new canal would also constitute a choke point , advantage India
that's delusional, Indian ocean is now owned by India alone, Yes Bay of Bengal and other can be described ad backyard of India, But rest of it under international waterways, China will just bypass it bu using Kra Canal and help of Sumatra Island and connecting through Lankan Port which they own.
They can simply avoid getting near of Andaman, If you understand map and international territory.
@@backemf89 hello before you call others delusional , put on your soda glasses and study the map of the Andaman sea ( preferably a navigation chart if you are literate enough to read one ) rather carefully and hopefully next time you will ensure you get to know your facts before going and shooting your off your mouth in a public forum such as this. For your knowledge I have elaborated as follows :-
The proposed location of the canal cutting across the narrowest section ( approx 40-48 km)of the isthmus of Kra is between Chumphon & Kra Buri ( both located in Thailand ). For a merchant vessel heading westbound after exiting the theoretical canal would be sailing head on towards the Andaman & Nicobar Archipelago made up of 572 islands and the largest coral reef ecosystem in the Indian Ocean . Although the shortest navigational route would be through the 10 degree channel separating Little Andaman island & Car Nicobar island, this passage would probably by then become out of bound for international shipping, therefore merchant vessels would have no choice but to deviate southbound along the Nicobar island chain and pass through the Great Nicobar Island & the Port of Bander Aceh ( tip of Sumatra ) which would merge with the sea traffic enroute to / from Malacca Straits. So if you still have your soda glasses on and following the navigation chart as per my instructions, you will hopefully realise how easy it would be for couple of Indian nuclear submarines to cover both these choke points and probably that was the reason why the Chinese lost interest in the canal project rather quickly especially after the QUAD was reactivated, predominantly to counter China in the indo pacific .
Kyaukpyu Port and coco Islands, Myanmar. 😂. Both Chinese now. Look at where they are... Atop Andaman islands looking down.
@@Jkl62200And where will they go from there? 😂
@@backemf89idiot .. only 2 RMB for this silly comment. Report to zhongnanhai or you will be sent to work in Inner Mongolia mines for 10 years.
The Panama & Suez canals both offer a bypass around whole continents; the Malay peninsula is much smaller. Is it enough of an advantage to justify the investment?
That's the Kra Isthmus. Thailand has been mulling this project for a very long time. To imply during his opening the PM was bored during an important Chinese summit in which 130 countries attended is mischevious and shows his intellectual bankruptcy.
1) The height of the interior mountain chain of the Kra Isthmus is 75 m compared to the highest on the Panama Canal which is 64 m.
2) Panama Canal saves 15,000 KM compared to 1,200 KM.
3) Roughly 14,000 vessels transit the Panama Canal a year, while in 2014 over 79,000 vessels transited the Malacca Straits.
So even if it is built it wont take over the Malaka Strait. I am not even sure if it will be economical in the long term.
The key thing here is the toll fee they'll charge. This will be calculated based on return on investment in the construction cost and length of time for repayment. If Toll is too low it may not make the project commercially viable. Too high only few will use it as it only saves 1200 or 2 extra days travel time.
@@tweedy4sg It is likely to be cheaper to run diesel turbines/engines for 2 days than pay the toll for such an expensive project.
@@SodiumSyndicate I agree.
In fact, the distance is even shorter than 1200. My measurement using Google maps measure tool shows only 600-700km distance is the difference. This makes building the canal even less viable.
@@tweedy4sg China should be encouraged to waste its money on this project.
All mode and multi-mode of transportation suggested have to be compared 'per kilometer per ton' to see whether the proposals are economically feasible cost wise.
How could India possibly prevent this if China and Thailand decide to go ahead? 😂. It cannot even prevent its immediate small neighbor srilanka from working with China. That's the problem... India always tried to subtract, not add to anything.
Because India is kind unlike China,it doesnt use its hard hand
Moreover,you come back and reply when this corridor is announced.Till then keep crying..which will be forever.
@@kirankoti6316 lol...indians are one of the most 'hard handed' people whenever they have just a little power. Look at how your poor are treated. Look at your caste system. Look at how you try to order small neighbors like Bhutan, Nepal, SriLanka, Maldives around. Look at how Indians boast when your economy goes up a little. Look at the words Indians always use... Crush, humiliate, dominate, school etc
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Only thing that is certain is even after this is built Mumbai Goa road will still be under construction lol 😂
I watched this program with interest.
I disagree with your conclusion that a Canal or a road/ rail transit corridor through Thailand represents a threat to Indian East Coast.
Because if India has the ability to Dominate the Malacca Straits. Then the same capacity also permits India to dominate any PRC presence in Thailand.
The Chinese navy is ten times more powerful than the Indian one, if India thinks it can block the Malacca strait, then China would certainly be able to break that blockade.
At a great cost to China.
Ten times on paper are referring to the fishing fleet?
More than the Quad's Naval supremacy? On all fronts?
Wrong
@@fangdog29India are very powerful with their mouths. talk and no action😂
This route is not just for China; Taiwan, Japan, Korea all can benefit from a shorter trade route.
That's a nice story. Haven't heard about it anywhere else. Thailand isn't directly involved in the SCS dispute. I didn't even know that Thailand is a treaty bound Ally of the US, is the treaty as strong as one with the Philippines?
Thailand has no dispute in the South China Sea. And Thailand has no security Treaty with the US. Thailand used to host the US military base during the Vietnam War but it has long ceased. Thailand of late buys some military equipment from China.
In your dreams like the Philippines... Thailand is very much pro China nation
I'm glad you liked this episode, Jaydeep. It was a very interesting one for me to do as well. Thank you for supporting our journalism...best wishes, Shekhar
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This reminds me of asking a question to Shekhar sir , which notepad do you use with yellow sheets ?
Like Mandela used to say, there are fools who think their enemy should be our enemy. Who said indonesia,Malaysia and Singapore will help the defunct Quad to stop china's passage in Malacca strait?
They have the Chinese as their biggest trading partner, and they are the greatest supporter of Belt and Road initiatives.
Hey there CCP's employee, you're talking about the SEA which is suffocated and subjugated by China right! Speaking of Mandela, if we're to take the east Asia as a whole, it's an apartheid zone controlled by China keeping the small minorities in servitude. SEA's wealth comes from its trade to west, China just jumped on that train, as usual without buying a ticket. SEA won't kneel to China, CCP may own the politicians and businessmen but it doesn't own the people.
Wow , now go and get some ding dong up your ccp😂😂
Interesting, but China is also the second biggest trading partner to India, which trades more than other Asian nations. Yet both the countries do not agree on borer issues. Similarly, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore have issues in the South China Sea, Do you think these Asian nations agree with China's claim on the South China Sea?
@@not_so_genius3642 at least these ASEAN countries know what outside poweres are up to, that is to create division in the region to maintain their hegemony. They believe in amicable negotiation to solve their difference, the long trusted way that keep everyone's territory intact for thousands of years.
@@shencheanglow3726 But you didn't answer my question. Do you think Asean Nations agree to China's Border claims of the south china Sea?
Last line was most important, Thailand is treaty bound ally of USA.
Chinese have Navy in Combodia and a high speed train from Kunming to thailand and Cambodia.
With this canal china can supply goods from n to Zunan,Qinghai and Tibet.
Will these countries will they die and be pro china not pro west or neutral be rich and safe
for you to do anything 😅 see china will be down it's bad on china to go for war . Be happy in what you have .
We have bases in andaman and nicobar to usa we get quad military India will be secure even canal will face bases both islands more
The PM was thinking of asking India to build the canal. India is the only country can handle such a project
@@MattsFikezolo-lo7wq anyone build roads rails or canaly its always profitable for china as goods they transport are always chinese. What India produce??
Nothing , we don't produce 10% of China and thats why China was happy abut IMEC as India produce not much and Saudi produce nothing. In the end it will be Chinese goods which we export by value added like pharmaceuticals.
And China is not going to attack India but can push Pakistan to do some shrarat.
@@MattsFikezolo-lo7wqIndia will take a long time to complete such a project and there is a 99% chance of failure.😂
@@isleephungry Suez Canal and Panama Canal took very long time to build. If you don't try you can't win.
I hope the environmental concerns are addressed properly... That landmass is extremely rich in biodiversity and houses many endangered species...
It’s very unlikely to happen, it will cost 55 billion usd , assuming everything happens as planned. And it’s not like the malacca strait will stop , so maybe it will never be profitable as well
55 billion is less than CPEC in Pakistan. What's the problem? China needs to use all the dollars it accumulates every single month in surpluses anyway.. In case those dollars become more and more useless
@@Jkl62200 CPEC connects China to Arabian/Indian, where none exists especially if you look at china Africa goods movement. Kra Canal will not provide any such benefit.
@@utkarshshukla i was talking about cost. its estimated at 27B but even 55B as suggested isnt a problem if they want do it. Kra Canal certainly removes a lot of the "blockade of malacca straits" too, given China has bases in SCS, Cambodia and soon Myanmar
@@Jkl62200 Kra Canal does not helps much with the blockade. If you look it opens right up to the Andaman Islands. Also one thing you dont know is depth. The depth in that area is too less for large ships. Find more about the depths. If it has not been so, it would have already been done.
@@utkarshshukla do you even know how large container ships are? Lol.
Pl continued with this type of reporting
Canal of kra is a need of china to get relief from Malacca straight s dilemma and it's specially being built to cater to the trade with Myanmar and Bangladesh to china and vice versa
Let’s hope China will help Thailand to make this to reality. It’s economic will grow and prosper.
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I always make it a point to Listen at least 1 one of your what the ShekarGupta's media says... its quite a different but nice for future generations who are not interested in fireworks. the academic wealth of information... that which Shekarji is well Experienced to deliver in the Journalism field . ❤❤❤
We learnt history in those days by reading books in the National Liabry in those days
Dear Shekhar, could you perhaps do an episode about the fate of eight Indian Navy veterans now given the death penalty in Qatar?
Beautifully explained. Thanks a lot Shekher ji. God bless you.
Excellent analysis of Thailand sir.
Why do BRI has anything to do with India?
It's a threat to Bharat's strategic interests.
Isn’t that reference to kra canal
The West is playing a strategic game to not let India and China function as partners, just like they prevented Russia and China.
Why you ask?
1.Think about it the top 2 largest population with tremendous manpower in every sector and advancing technologies.
2. 2nd and soon to be 3rd largest economy globally.
Instead the West cleverly has been very proactive in India's neighbourhood, to basically de-stabilise this entire region.
The best example, as of now is Nepal.
Multiple plots are brewing in Nepal, and are worrying by Indian perspective/POV.
Making canal in ring of fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@theprintofficial
If you care to pay heed
Wouldn't 'Thai PM's B.R.I. 'Doodle' ....' have made more sense instead of the all CAPS title?
no. india cannot choke malacca straight. it belongs to indonesia and malaysia. both will choose china over india anyday.
Please make video on India UK free trade as well
I have never heard of india helping other countries to develope n progress please enlighten me matter of interest thank you
Doesn't make much sense...
For reducing 1200 Nm...no charterer will go till these extents...
High value cargo would just be placed on ships which can go faster
The ownership of the canal matters. We have to make the US, Japan and South Korea to invest significant part of it.
make them?
@@kimeli
Cost-effectiveness is dubious.
Unlike Suez and Panama, it does not seem to be absolutely necessary.
If Indonesia has problems with China, why did they build the fast railway line from Jakarta to Bandung with Chinese help?
Did their problems emerge after the project was started?
Actually Indonesia has a good relationship with China. In fact they conduct joint military drills quite regularly
I mean even India does more trade with China than Indonesia. In fact, India and China are partner countries in BRICS and SCO. Yet they fight for border issues. I don't see a reason for your argument
President of Indonesia visited China for a few days last week for the BRI conference, and had a meeting with President of China.
@@Liboch WOrld leaders have visited India for G20 that doesn't mean they are all pro-India and have no issues with India. Business and Politics can be aligned and disaligned whenever they need
@@not_so_genius3642
1) I am not saying Indonesia is pro China but I more or less alluding that they do not have major problem between them.
2) BRI is a China-led initiative where as G20 is not an Indian-led organisation.
They are in his BRI world. And a Kra land bridge is more affordable than a canal. Might just work.
Andaman and nicobar islanders have been occupied by India after the end of the British empire. They must be liberated and the those native islander can achieve their freedom.
No more occupation
😂😂tumhari kyu jal rhi h
Yes native islander. Go incite jarawas.😂 Or better still nicobarese
Leave Pakistan too muslims are Arab invaders Pakistan land is Indic land historically owned by Hindus
Calling natives invaders and Muslims originated from Indus river
Wah re logic idiots
Kalash and native Chitralis, Baltis, have been occupied and ill treated by Pakistan after the end of the British Raj. They must be liberated, and then the native mountaineers can achieve their freedom.
No more occupation !
Nice information sir
How this purported canal is enviornmentally destructive when the projects in Anadaman and Nicobar are not? I wonder how conveniently people (mis)use this environment agrument when it comes to their ownself.
18:48 if Malacca chock is possible why can't New strait blocked by sea Denieal
That last sentence of the video almost seals the fate of the project already
Please make video on 111 rank in global hunger index
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WHO CARES ABOUT INDIA , IF ITS GOOD FOR THAULLAND THEN GO AHEAD ITS NOT FOR OTHER COUNTRY TO NOSE ON FOREIGN COUNTRIES ASPECTS
But if there is no China for manufacturing
This man is just anti-china and that is so boring
One more CTC which is different from run of the mill stories of other channels.
Any comments or series about the Indian ex Navy personnel arrested by Qatar govt ?
When Thai King is incarnated/assumes Kingship Tamil/Hindu Mantras Thevaram, Thiruvasagam are chanted besides Buddhis mantras.
Buddhism (long oppressed in India) , not Hinduism. Today Thailand has far more interactions with Lao and China than India. And almost all the tycoons in Thailand are ethnic Chinese. Tough for India.
That's true. All our neighbors and South & SE.Asian countries align closer to China than India for various reasons. @@Jkl62200
The topic was intriguing, but the presentation was tedious. It could have been wrapped up in 10 minutes, but it dragged on for 23.
This canal is of no use. India's Andaman and Nicobar islands form a unsinkable barrier which can easily be used to choke any shipping routes including this canal.
To counter this it's high time India proposes a Vande BIMSTEC International Rail corridor for tourism and freight connecting all capital cities of BIMSTEC and Ho Chin Minh of Vietnam with Kolkata. And Kolkata -Mundra freight corridor can connect it with IMEC. Funding can be done through the QUAD and ASEAN options.. I believe that would be the most strategic and optimized supply chain and regional tourism promotion option...
That's the problem with India. It proposes things that 1) it has no money to fund 2)no tech and experience in doing 3)rely on other powers to do.
be bangladesh friend first
Already a highway agreement has been signed 👍
Let them build it. Its more closer to Indian navy and nuclear submarine deployment area. If they chose the other Indonesian way its far away from Indian influence but rather they chose this. US and India can easily interfere in oil shipments to China through this route.
India is not a factor, at least is not a significant factor in China’s play book. India should think rationally and take care India herself rather than worry about China everyday.
Not true. China has claims on vast areas currently controlled by Bharat.
@@hawkingdawking4572you mean the line drew by British 100 years ago? What makes you think who is right or wrong?
@@frankm6218 or a simple line drawn by the Chinese. Just like the ludicrous 7 dash or 9 dash line "border line" encompassing a whole sea. Borders are drawn on maps at some point or the other.
Singapore will dry if completed. At movement Singapore main INCOME
You are a true Vishwa Guru, uncle. "India dominates the Malacca Straits because one of the Nicobar Islands is close to the mouth of the straits." That's simply brilliant.
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Was that sarcasm
2 cents.
very bad for the port of Singapore
this video can be rename
China Builds, India criticizes,
India is a great culture and its people are intelligent.
But England had destroyed India big time when it colonised India for 200+ years.
In 1947 India gained independence and new China was formed in 1949 after almost a hundred years of Western bully.
In those beginning years China was poorer than India who even had to lease her aircrafts to China for their political leaders as Indian Airlines had bn established but China had not had an airline nor many functional aircrafts yet.
The border War of 1960s was as a result of Western’s instigations of India who
wrongly thought her borders with China were not negotiable which were unfairly drawn by their previous English masters.
India has come a long way esp. her GDP has surpassed that of UK last years but China has become much larger than both combined.
India will improve greatly if she can concentrate more on her economic development such as upgrading her infra, eradication of illiteracy & poverty etc and less on international politics esp. now that d West is going to make use of her to be antagonistic against China.
Apart from d barometer of GDP, Olympic or Asian Game scoreboard performances can also gauge a nation’s organisational powers which India has a long way to catch up with that of China.
Sad to see SG resorting to fear mongering. Firstly, why talk of a canal when the proposal is of a land bridge? Secondly, if Bharat can choke the Malacca Strait, I guess this canal can be choked more easily because it would be much nearer to the Andamans, just about 400 odd kms from Bharat's maritime economic zone.
As a matter of fact, I would love to have this canal built. It would give Bharat exclusive power to choke CCP trade, something which even Indonesia can do now as trade passes through Malacca St. Also, one mustn't forget what happened of Gwadar. If Bharat can do that in enemy territory, this would be almost in our backyard.
i dont know how it is any different for India here... none the less Chinese vessels have to pass through Indian waters or Indonesian waters and if these countries want they can still block Chinese vessels just like before... i think they just want trade benefits.
1 cut trade route short, which save alot of time, enegey, i. e. Money..
2. Malaca is controled by us military .. Avoid the risks.
3. Thai is land country which China will easily access from land.
4. Thai has traditionally been politically close to China.
5. India is not military threat to China, which common concensus in China. China has many ways to constraint india.
Now you get the idea?
Why would Indonesia do that? India has so little influence in south east Asia compared to China. That is a fact.
@saewha India "wants" many things that are way beyond its actual capabilities, Mr thick
@@治强nice try moving your ships closer to Indian navy and nuclear submarines. 😂
@saewha Indonesia isn't a treaty ally of America at all. Stop the Indian lies.
Very good overview.
The last 2 minutes are very important and why Thailand may never build the canal.
Bhai wts happening in Israel ?
The bechara pm of Thailand just forgot to make a Thai tongue and a Chinese boot besides it in his great masterpiece.
China railway from Rangoon Myanmar to laos vientine to Yunnan kunming will be operational In 2030 from srilanka port to Rangoon is very convenient.thailand has been begging china for 20 years. But it's only feasible if have massive gas and oil findings in this isythmus
What Thailand does it’s for her benefit not India’s.
India should stop moaning incessantly or be obsessed about China like it’s a national pastime but devote her energies instead to improving the lot of her people from extreme poverty like China has done.
les- majeste: Les like in Lesion (hurt)
Nah, railway to South Myanmar port is the better way to go for China's BRI. Just watch India's Untouchables by Gweilo 60.
India's untouchables? Who are they? China?
That plan is in place too.
Well If they don't want the mallaca strait then they need to divide Thailand
That road will go through Thailand
And India will not let that happen
India will also take away island from Myanmar to lay seige on the opening to indian option
India cannot stop the Thailand on this project
India can't stop China.
Maybe India could create a 10 dash line in the bay of Bengal
S.G Podcasts are Very Laboured and tedious. , He needs to be more Audience friendly. Gravitas need not be Uninteresting.
We listen you mention thai monarchy??we worry that you will be arrest on the spot if you in thailand soil for criticism the thailand monarchy??? So you better not visit thailand anymore for your own safety? Or you suddenly send to jail ???
India must do more do catch up to China's might.
India must do more to make its own peope life better. Nothing to do with China.
It's not possible for a century or so even with sustained Western ties. The Himalayan borders are volatile and nothing can be done to secure them for the time-being.
Thai shd contact our infra minister. Project will be completed in 2 years with half the cost!😂
0. Shekhar has a habit of talking endlessly for explaining something which can be finished in 10 minutes max! 1. Having ports on both the side instead of Kran canal is a new idea and perhaps worth exploring. 2. However, Quad and in particular India, will simply not allow it to happen under BRI! So the port on the Indian side can be given to India and others and the other side port can be given to the Chinese. As long as the project is purely commercial, it is fine and not otherwise. Period. 3. In any case, nothing on this will happen for a long time and in any case, how long this joker will remain the PM in Thailand?
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This looks like a non-starter.
Quiz time, name any classic Indian dynasty that had any power over the people on islands in the Andaman Sea. Apparently victims of colonialism has some advantages. Compliments to the Brits.
The Chola dynasty, a prominent South Indian dynasty that ruled from the 9th to the 13th centuries, had influence and control over parts of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands in the Andaman Sea. The Cholas were known for their maritime power and trade, and they extended their influence over various regions, including the islands in the Bay of Bengal.
Another warmonger talk.🤣
TLDR/W... what's this about
Strait of malacca is choke point of chinese oil
Thailand wants to solve problem by making a artificial canal and get money through taxes.
It is good for thailand - atleas as hype, but doesnt solve chinese military problems of India controlling andaman and nicobar...
With Congress and Abraham faith, soon will we be done with this pariah Hindus
If this happens, India’s importance will be even greater. I hope they do that will force to put focus more from AUKUS to US-Japan-India.
Indian logic..lol
@@Jkl62200madrasachaap response😂😂😂
Slave mentality... Kumar, are you enjoying being a collaborator in the genocide of Palestinians?
@@offred6013typical bhagwa terrorist mentality
I fail to see the 'advantage' of:
1 - Unloading a container from one ship,
2 - Sending it by rail about 50 kilometers &
3 - Reloading it onto another ship
VERSUS Simply traveling an additional 1,200 km on original ship
_(Save 2 days but incur significant additional cost)_
It won't be successful because, whatever the 4 days time and fuel saved by using this new rail/road connecting sea ports gives, it will be wasted on unloading from ship, loading on train, unloading it from train then again loading on to another ship...the unloading and loading will cost too much.
Panama and Suez canals are successful because it cuts travel time drastically and also the same ship moves through the canal, and doesn't require any cargo unloading and loading.
Another " Godi media" journalist, no spine though very knowledgeable.
Very very bad
This is why INDIA needs a third Aircraft carrier
for Bay of Bengal.