As a consumer see the many benefits of NIO battery swap. It’s the only EV that will have resell value. They will produce vehicles with a million mile lifespan. It’s inevitable. NIO to the moon! 🚀
Asia Society is not about understanding Asia nor collaborating with Asia but how to preserve US's dominance over Asia (which of course also include India). This is the reality in the context of US-China tension. This development is really unfortunate as US is in the best position as a hegemon to unify rather than to divide nations. A divided humanity stands no chance against the existential threats of climate change, AI and nuclear obliteration. Innovations should not become a victim of geopolitics but a means to overcome humanity's threats.
When each individual sees other individuals as enemies, there will not be cooperation. When each nation talks about other nations as potential enemies, humanity will not survive the existential threats.
Historically, China has been one of the most inventive nations in the world. Just look at the long list of Chinese inventions going back several thousand years, long before the United States even existed. It's true that the United States has been enormously inventive in the past century or so, but China has been far more *_innovative._* This explains China's tremendous progress over the past four decades. Turbocharged innovation is the reason for China's spectacular infrastructure, especially in the areas of high-speed rail and bridge construction. It's the reason for China's dominance in the EV market and green energy production. It's the reason why China is building EMALS-equipped supercarriers, the only other country with this capability. It's the reason why China constructed the Tiangong space station, much to the shock and surprise of the Americans.
@@horridohobbies Unless one is still living in China and never heard of outside world or learn Chinese history, Tang, even it was also ruled by emperors, it was welcoming all foreign cultures/trades/religions to flourish in China. It's knowingly a much more freer society even comparing it to today's countries.
@@horridohobbies The Tang Dynasty was one of the dynasties in Chinese history that opened up trade with all the countries of the world, and it was at that time that English began to be learned.
It's sad when people talk about innovations in the context of nations. That's the geopolitics of dominance, that US must dominate as a hegemony or be dominated. Innovativeness is a human attribute. Innovations are built on existing innovations. That's how humanity progresses.
she kind of miss the question ask, he was asking about invention, not innovation. and to invent something you need 2 thing, one is a new understanding, and the other is a new capability. and what is not discuss is how China understand and codifies a national solution to these problem. on "new understanding" China pursuit massive development in hard science infrastructure, these are thing like fusion reactor, particle accelerator, largest DNA sample farm, most powerful wind tunnel, their goal is to gain new fundamental understanding, if you don't understand why something work or don't work that way they do, you can't invent new way of solving them, so they are providing the supporting infastructure to grow the knowledge of their talent to test and prove their theories. the other which is "new capability" come from from heavy invest in material science. knowing how something work but not being able to build it is pointless, so knowing how to work the material, create the material and what are the strength and weaknesses of material are important. every company do their own material science, tesla create it own alloy so it can be bend in the way they want to for cheaper production cost for example. however China has a national program to improve the material knowledge and availability to its industry. the reason china hasn't done much "inventing" in the last century was because China was rarely ahead in either scienific infrastructure to be leading in understanding, nor ahead in material science to be ahead in implementation. its not a mindset thing at all, the concept and math behind spaceplane was created by the founder of the chinese space program, he publish that before he was exile to China, and he could not realise the spaceplane in China because China didn't have all the infrastructure to test his idea nor the material science to build what was outline by his math. that's just the reality and in the end it is US that build the spaceshuttle using the math he created. chinese are not any less inventive than anyone else if they have the same resources, it just that China due to not having a post (world) war recovery as US and most western country refuse to recognise China for over 30 years after WWII, and so did not have the chance to be in the forefront. however time has changed, the government has the resource and will to develop hard science infrastruture and develop an accelerated program on material science. this is why China lead in battery, because now they have the material science to manufacture thing in the way they want. the linear blade batteries and sodium base batteries are both transformative invention. of course it isn't invention "yet" because the science was already understood, to go beyond what we have understood is where the hard science infrastructure come into play, and as they come online, they will not only give chinese scientist a new understanding of the world, but it would also attract top scientist to china and further improve it science output. that's the game china is playing. I am surprise there hasn't been much discussion when these plans of the chinese government are quite public.
You are the first one to make this argument. Chinese is not less inventive because of the culture but because of the conditions, just like any country or culture. As the conditions change, that will change. There are hard conditions (infrastructures hard resources ) as you talked about. There are also soft conditions, like education and belief, and social and economic incentives. Social and economic incentives have changed. Education and beliefs are changing as well. Chinese has been a follower in science and technology for last 200 years and that becomes a habit and belief, their goal has been to more of catch up. Until recently they, both as a country and as individuals, didn’t have enough confidence that they can invent things that the west don’t have. But that is changing.
There were true stories of Chinese scientists apply for research funding, one question they were asked was what is the state of this arts/technology in the west world, if the answer is not known, the application would be much less likely get approved because the fund approver would think success would be much less likely or impossible. Therefore many if not most scientists and professors would check what already exists but not yet available in China to set as the research target.
The People's Republic of China has manifested its knowledge about the basics of and the basis for unparalleled improvement in her socio economy while the United States is still stubbornly reactive to the calls by the PRC to follow the path of prosperity pioneered by PRC ie the matching of real holy spirited individuals with the the same type starting from the nuclear family community society state and civilization where institutions set the pace all the way.
If China and the United States can work together and establish reasonable rules, it will benefit the whole world, but unfortunately the United States has become pan-politicized, many issues have been weaponized, and onlookers look ridiculous, but American politicians are very happy, making the geopolitical environment worse, hoping that this absurd era will pass quickly
Agree totally. With America's inventiveness and China's turbocharged innovation, the two countries can greatly boost the world's progress. However, the Americans are obsessed with preserving their global hegemony and they will not give an inch to the Chinese. Very sad.
What does us lead in that china is not? I can only think of AI chatgpt, bitcoin users, and metaverse. I think biotech is one of the best in the world. And sales of US weapon and oil extraction are still the best in the world.
You are very naive and making a broad statement without doing a broad research. China cannot produce reliable engines for airplanes,efficient turbines for ships, high speed chips for advanced electronics, all advanced medical equipments (all have to be imported), generic modifying technology to increase agriculture production, just to name a few. As to battery the most critical parts in it still needs to be imported. Do your home work before spinning shit here
4:45 I believe the speaker means patented invention when he talks about invention. He is right that most of the innovation do not fall under some IP regime.
Is almost always the case that they have an Asian woman to represent a view of China and almost never a Chinese man which is very interesting and likely reflects an idiotic bias.
California China Climate Institute. California green energy infrastructure is under the supervision of the CCP. This is because California is not qualified for such a sophisticated project. California has DEI graduates, not real green energy infrastructure engineers. Thank you CCP!
That's quite delusional. Right now, China's economy is *4.7X* larger than India's by nominal GDP, and *2.5X* larger by purchasing power parity. Unless China's economy stands still, it will take India many decades to catch up to China, probably past the end of this century. The math doesn't lie.
Allow me to tell you a piece of truth about Taiwan: the US has been helping the Chinese communists. Because the US has a Canada, I hope you will be able to understand American actions and American history a tiny bit better. So, you owe me big time. Because the US has a Canada, please remember the British soldiers burnt the white house in 1814, which is about 40 years after the US independence. Almost exactly the same, the communist China has been in a situation similar to the US in its early years. Both countries have to face external and internal opposition, and both governments desperately need to consolidate their power internally. As a communist government, Chairman Mao's job was far more difficult than that of George Washington ever was. Of course, the US got the white house burnt by the British, and China had to fight the Korean and Vietnam wars. However, the easiest way to achieve internal peace is for the opposition to leave on their own. Thank the heavens that China has Taiwan, where the anti-communist force went. Similarly, the USA has Canada, where the British loyalists went. Just imagine, if the British loyalists had no Canada could go, or KMT had no Taiwan could go, both revolutionary wars would have to be longer and bloodier. Therefore, politically, the value of Taiwan to the Chinese communist revolution is exactly that of Canada to the American independence. Fortunately for the Chinese communists, the Americans don't understand their own history and have been working very hard and spending resources in Taiwan to help Chinese communists unify the Chinese hearts and minds internally and worldwide.
@@mira-zx me too. friend or not, like or hate, everyone has a role to play. the initial intension may be yin , but the result could be yang, vice versa.
Chinese innovation is OFF THE ROOF! Just look at their EV cars!
Off the chart.
Evs is a scams and waste money and natural resources 😂😅
Yes, looking forward to the total success in its delete-A (devoid of American) policy
As a consumer see the many benefits of NIO battery swap. It’s the only EV that will have resell value. They will produce vehicles with a million mile lifespan. It’s inevitable. NIO to the moon! 🚀
Asia Society is not about understanding Asia nor collaborating with Asia but how to preserve US's dominance over Asia (which of course also include India). This is the reality in the context of US-China tension.
This development is really unfortunate as US is in the best position as a hegemon to unify rather than to divide nations.
A divided humanity stands no chance against the existential threats of climate change, AI and nuclear obliteration. Innovations should not become a victim of geopolitics but a means to overcome humanity's threats.
When each individual sees other individuals as enemies, there will not be cooperation. When each nation talks about other nations as potential enemies, humanity will not survive the existential threats.
Historically, China has been one of the most inventive nations in the world. Just look at the long list of Chinese inventions going back several thousand years, long before the United States even existed.
It's true that the United States has been enormously inventive in the past century or so, but China has been far more *_innovative._* This explains China's tremendous progress over the past four decades.
Turbocharged innovation is the reason for China's spectacular infrastructure, especially in the areas of high-speed rail and bridge construction. It's the reason for China's dominance in the EV market and green energy production. It's the reason why China is building EMALS-equipped supercarriers, the only other country with this capability. It's the reason why China constructed the Tiangong space station, much to the shock and surprise of the Americans.
Yes, in Tang Dynasty like 1200 years ago and Tang was a much more open and comparatively freer era
@@MH-pz8wf Freer? I can't imagine the Chinese were freer than they've been in the last couple of decades.
@@horridohobbies Unless one is still living in China and never heard of outside world or learn Chinese history, Tang, even it was also ruled by emperors, it was welcoming all foreign cultures/trades/religions to flourish in China. It's knowingly a much more freer society even comparing it to today's countries.
@@MH-pz8wf You know a lot about Chinese history. We call the Tang Dynasty the Great Tang Dynasty, when China traded all over the world.
@@horridohobbies The Tang Dynasty was one of the dynasties in Chinese history that opened up trade with all the countries of the world, and it was at that time that English began to be learned.
US goal is hegemony..
So is China's ambition
@@MH-pz8wf chinas ambition is to stop US hegemony
Great, informative and inspirational discussions, thanks.
Who said China has no invention. China has many inventions before America appears in this world.
It's sad when people talk about innovations in the context of nations. That's the geopolitics of dominance, that US must dominate as a hegemony or be dominated. Innovativeness is a human attribute. Innovations are built on existing innovations. That's how humanity progresses.
A great morale booster for China strong team!
she kind of miss the question ask, he was asking about invention, not innovation. and to invent something you need 2 thing, one is a new understanding, and the other is a new capability. and what is not discuss is how China understand and codifies a national solution to these problem. on "new understanding" China pursuit massive development in hard science infrastructure, these are thing like fusion reactor, particle accelerator, largest DNA sample farm, most powerful wind tunnel, their goal is to gain new fundamental understanding, if you don't understand why something work or don't work that way they do, you can't invent new way of solving them, so they are providing the supporting infastructure to grow the knowledge of their talent to test and prove their theories. the other which is "new capability" come from from heavy invest in material science. knowing how something work but not being able to build it is pointless, so knowing how to work the material, create the material and what are the strength and weaknesses of material are important. every company do their own material science, tesla create it own alloy so it can be bend in the way they want to for cheaper production cost for example. however China has a national program to improve the material knowledge and availability to its industry.
the reason china hasn't done much "inventing" in the last century was because China was rarely ahead in either scienific infrastructure to be leading in understanding, nor ahead in material science to be ahead in implementation. its not a mindset thing at all, the concept and math behind spaceplane was created by the founder of the chinese space program, he publish that before he was exile to China, and he could not realise the spaceplane in China because China didn't have all the infrastructure to test his idea nor the material science to build what was outline by his math. that's just the reality and in the end it is US that build the spaceshuttle using the math he created.
chinese are not any less inventive than anyone else if they have the same resources, it just that China due to not having a post (world) war recovery as US and most western country refuse to recognise China for over 30 years after WWII, and so did not have the chance to be in the forefront. however time has changed, the government has the resource and will to develop hard science infrastruture and develop an accelerated program on material science. this is why China lead in battery, because now they have the material science to manufacture thing in the way they want. the linear blade batteries and sodium base batteries are both transformative invention. of course it isn't invention "yet" because the science was already understood, to go beyond what we have understood is where the hard science infrastructure come into play, and as they come online, they will not only give chinese scientist a new understanding of the world, but it would also attract top scientist to china and further improve it science output.
that's the game china is playing. I am surprise there hasn't been much discussion when these plans of the chinese government are quite public.
4:38
You are the first one to make this argument. Chinese is not less inventive because of the culture but because of the conditions, just like any country or culture. As the conditions change, that will change. There are hard conditions (infrastructures hard resources ) as you talked about. There are also soft conditions, like education and belief, and social and economic incentives. Social and economic incentives have changed. Education and beliefs are changing as well. Chinese has been a follower in science and technology for last 200 years and that becomes a habit and belief, their goal has been to more of catch up. Until recently they, both as a country and as individuals, didn’t have enough confidence that they can invent things that the west don’t have. But that is changing.
There were true stories of Chinese scientists apply for research funding, one question they were asked was what is the state of this arts/technology in the west world, if the answer is not known, the application would be much less likely get approved because the fund approver would think success would be much less likely or impossible. Therefore many if not most scientists and professors would check what already exists but not yet available in China to set as the research target.
Wooo ...great understanding about China
Where would the us be without the chinese invention of ..gunpowder ...
We would not have imperialism and the downfall of the Qing
VERY LESS WEALTH LOL
so what's the point? And what about Mao's close door policy in his reign?
The People's Republic of China has manifested its knowledge about the basics of and the basis for unparalleled improvement in her socio economy while the United States is still stubbornly reactive to the calls by the PRC to follow the path of prosperity pioneered by PRC ie the matching of real holy spirited individuals with the the same type starting from the nuclear family community society state and civilization where institutions set the pace all the way.
So why do you care what the US do now? you should just continue on your own path and show your strength
If China and the United States can work together and establish reasonable rules, it will benefit the whole world, but unfortunately the United States has become pan-politicized, many issues have been weaponized, and onlookers look ridiculous, but American politicians are very happy, making the geopolitical environment worse, hoping that this absurd era will pass quickly
Agree totally. With America's inventiveness and China's turbocharged innovation, the two countries can greatly boost the world's progress.
However, the Americans are obsessed with preserving their global hegemony and they will not give an inch to the Chinese. Very sad.
Great ❤great❤great exchange ❤❤❤❤❤❤
What does us lead in that china is not? I can only think of AI chatgpt, bitcoin users, and metaverse. I think biotech is one of the best in the world. And sales of US weapon and oil extraction are still the best in the world.
You are very naive and making a broad statement without doing a broad research. China cannot produce reliable engines for airplanes,efficient turbines for ships, high speed chips for advanced electronics, all advanced medical equipments (all
have to be imported), generic modifying technology to increase agriculture production, just to name a few. As to battery the most critical parts in it still needs to be imported. Do your home work before spinning shit here
MSM propaganda is America's biggest export, along with newly printed dollars to pay for all their imports.
4:45
I believe the speaker means patented invention when he talks about invention. He is right that most of the innovation do not fall under some IP regime.
What a stupid group of panelist taking about technology without knowing technology
What are you doing here?😅😂
Asian women generally have a better chance to earn a seat on the podium. Talking about progress.
us and china ties bur got no chinese and 2 indian lol
Asia Society is a joke
Indians has always been the best spokepersons for China abroad.
btc Ai new energy everything ultimately is about energy
Is almost always the case that they have an Asian woman to represent a view of China and almost never a Chinese man which is very interesting and likely reflects an idiotic bias.
Meaningless chat! Talking about the label AI is like talking about democracy!
Yes, talk about tech and talk about tech, don't confuse it.
California China Climate Institute. California green energy infrastructure is under the supervision of the CCP. This is because California is not qualified for such a sophisticated project. California has DEI graduates, not real green energy infrastructure engineers.
Thank you CCP!
Green Energy is the New scams 😂😅
why no USA&China&India conforance? India will become the bigest economy soon!
HaHaHa
That's quite delusional. Right now, China's economy is *4.7X* larger than India's by nominal GDP, and *2.5X* larger by purchasing power parity. Unless China's economy stands still, it will take India many decades to catch up to China, probably past the end of this century. The math doesn't lie.
These people are China experts? Don't make me laugh 😂😂😂
Said by one who has never been to China. Your understanding of China wouldn't fill a thimble.
I wouldn't mind if it is a fair race. Seeking perfection and thus continuous innovation is what makes mankind advances.
Allow me to tell you a piece of truth about Taiwan: the US has been helping the Chinese communists. Because the US has a Canada, I hope you will be able to understand American actions and American history a tiny bit better. So, you owe me big time.
Because the US has a Canada, please remember the British soldiers burnt the white house in 1814, which is about 40 years after the US independence.
Almost exactly the same, the communist China has been in a situation similar to the US in its early years. Both countries have to face external and internal opposition, and both governments desperately need to consolidate their power internally.
As a communist government, Chairman Mao's job was far more difficult than that of George Washington ever was. Of course, the US got the white house burnt by the British, and China had to fight the Korean and Vietnam wars.
However, the easiest way to achieve internal peace is for the opposition to leave on their own. Thank the heavens that China has Taiwan, where the anti-communist force went. Similarly, the USA has Canada, where the British loyalists went. Just imagine, if the British loyalists had no Canada could go, or KMT had no Taiwan could go, both revolutionary wars would have to be longer and bloodier. Therefore, politically, the value of Taiwan to the Chinese communist revolution is exactly that of Canada to the American independence.
Fortunately for the Chinese communists, the Americans don't understand their own history and have been working very hard and spending resources in Taiwan to help Chinese communists unify the Chinese hearts and minds internally and worldwide.
Are you a Taiwanese friend?
@@mira-zx Are you a Taiwanese？
@@一个说话大声的中国人 I came from the mainland to work in the US, but some of my friends are from Taiwan.
@@mira-zx me too. friend or not, like or hate, everyone has a role to play. the initial intension may be yin , but the result could be yang, vice versa.
@@一个说话大声的中国人 You speak philosophically! Are you a professor of national studies?
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