Thanks for truly caring about your customers in all conditions, all riding habits, all riding environments, utilizing all the capabilities of electronic fuel controls on these sophisticated machines. I appreciate the explanation, as it's beneficial to someone like myself where I consider to have a pretty high level of comprehension of how these things work. I think part of the problem in the tuner world is the mindset of tuners, what they prefer to do and what they prefer to get out of a motorcycle. It's not so much right vs. wrong, it's a matter of perception and attitude. If a tuner only cares about WOT down a drag strip, only likes inline-4 engines, only goes in a straight line, they aren't going to savor or particularly care about the nuances and details of riding styles and environments that don't highlight the problems of emissions hampering on these machines. They won't take the time to develop a truly refined map that cleans up everything outside WOT. If they don't value those things, they won't put the R&D into airbox mods, filter mods, snorkels and lid mods, exhaust system combos, anything and everything (within financial reason) that may (or may not) produce some truly wonderful results in additional power or capability. They don't see the value in it, they don't find their time is worth it. If they structure their business in a way where the bigger margins are in other stuff, I guess that's one motive. And their competition will stomp all over them for it as customers will eventually learn about this and move elsewhere. I'd wager that most motorcyclists who want a tune job in the country are not the sort who only care about WOT AFR's and throttle behavior.
Most people looking for a tune are really just after the badge of honor that comes with having a bike that's "tuned". It's a giant pissing contest. Now that doesn't belittle any tuner's specific tune but what it does do is direct people to choose tuners who are more flashy (pun intended) with their presentation. That's how someone like 2wdw gets any work at all when their track use only approach isn't practical for 99% of riders looking for an improved real world street experience.
@@MrBCRC If that's what you want to believe, I don't think it's worth my time and work to try to get you to see differently. And for that I will say, that's like, your opinion man.
I really love your tune on my 2021 and yamaha should take notes loll. I had your tune on my old MT-09 2019 and it was so good, it was nighs and days when driving on the street, the stock tune was awfull and jerky and I remember your tune fixing that and made the bike perfect at slow and fast speed. On my new 2021, the stock tune feel like it was a little better than the stock 2019 for smoothness but not by much and the bike felt like it had less power because of the limited 2nd gear...why did they do that loll. and it was still not smooth driving. your tune fixe everything and made my 2021 feel so nice, smooth and powerfull. I can see that there was a lot of time and effort put into it, and that you really like what you are doing. 10\10
Thanks for that watched till end great explanation as to how some tuners are not getting it right,especially here in the UK yes you can get more power and torque easy enough,but the smoothness is at least as important if not more so just a pity your stateside,keep up the good work.
@@Fosite there isn’t one main problem there are several little ones that add up to a higher percentage of issues Different markets have different ecu part numbers that sometimes have subtle differences I can’t test these differences with my equipment Fuel is different so fuel and ignition timing requirements may change Base mapping is different. Shipping issues are more common
@@vcyclenut That's a shame man.... Because I think you are a very capable man with the knowledge how to do things.... Do you know some EU colleagues to go to??
Hi, for how long have you been or since when was it possible for you to tune bikes this way? I mean for the first gen CP3; is your flash developed like this? Thanks for your reply.
Is it bad I also want an economy gas mileage tune too 😂.. besides the full power smooth throttle with no fuel cut. 😅 Tuners here I can't even get to call back or message for a dyno. One answer 2 messages then I asked estimate and when and crickets. Called. Crickets. Tried another asking for dyno pulls before having it tuned. And no response 😂
no, not bad my method of street tuning end up with a fairly efficient tune. Saying that, I always tell people if you really want good gas mileage dont touch your bike
@vcyclenut I just want throttle to stay open. H2 SX is only 100% like 1000rpms. By redline I thinks it's at 35% lmao like 12% by 12.5k. I'm sure u have the tables there 🤣 🤣 🤣 I just wanted to set medium up as stock map espevially in first maybe don't close throttle so much after 11k lmao. Then full power a lil more ump .. don't need balls to the walls. Might women gears if I ever get a chance to tune it
@@michaellb1880 stock. I found no gains with a drop in filter I have the dna stage 2 on the way and will be testing it next week www.vcyclenut.com/2024-mt09-intake-testing.html
My first time tuning a car. Was in car with friend. Laptop running logging him watching afr, iat, knock. And cruising all different throttles and then full throttle pulls 🤣 🤣 Is it bad i like to see u run on the dyno 🤣
"You need to ride the bike" 😎👍 Makes all the difference.
Thanks for truly caring about your customers in all conditions, all riding habits, all riding environments, utilizing all the capabilities of electronic fuel controls on these sophisticated machines. I appreciate the explanation, as it's beneficial to someone like myself where I consider to have a pretty high level of comprehension of how these things work.
I think part of the problem in the tuner world is the mindset of tuners, what they prefer to do and what they prefer to get out of a motorcycle. It's not so much right vs. wrong, it's a matter of perception and attitude. If a tuner only cares about WOT down a drag strip, only likes inline-4 engines, only goes in a straight line, they aren't going to savor or particularly care about the nuances and details of riding styles and environments that don't highlight the problems of emissions hampering on these machines. They won't take the time to develop a truly refined map that cleans up everything outside WOT. If they don't value those things, they won't put the R&D into airbox mods, filter mods, snorkels and lid mods, exhaust system combos, anything and everything (within financial reason) that may (or may not) produce some truly wonderful results in additional power or capability. They don't see the value in it, they don't find their time is worth it. If they structure their business in a way where the bigger margins are in other stuff, I guess that's one motive.
And their competition will stomp all over them for it as customers will eventually learn about this and move elsewhere. I'd wager that most motorcyclists who want a tune job in the country are not the sort who only care about WOT AFR's and throttle behavior.
Most people looking for a tune are really just after the badge of honor that comes with having a bike that's "tuned". It's a giant pissing contest. Now that doesn't belittle any tuner's specific tune but what it does do is direct people to choose tuners who are more flashy (pun intended) with their presentation. That's how someone like 2wdw gets any work at all when their track use only approach isn't practical for 99% of riders looking for an improved real world street experience.
@@MrBCRC If that's what you want to believe, I don't think it's worth my time and work to try to get you to see differently. And for that I will say, that's like, your opinion man.
I have had your tune on my old FZ1 for MANY years. SO much better than stock.
I really love your tune on my 2021 and yamaha should take notes loll.
I had your tune on my old MT-09 2019 and it was so good, it was nighs and days when driving on the street, the stock tune was awfull and jerky and I remember your tune fixing that and made the bike perfect at slow and fast speed.
On my new 2021, the stock tune feel like it was a little better than the stock 2019 for smoothness but not by much and the bike felt like it had less power because of the limited 2nd gear...why did they do that loll. and it was still not smooth driving.
your tune fixe everything and made my 2021 feel so nice, smooth and powerfull.
I can see that there was a lot of time and effort put into it, and that you really like what you are doing.
10\10
I love the tune the you did for my 23 MT09 David…
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
thank you!!
This is why you're the man!
thank you, great explanation, you are a high level tuner.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you so much!
Thanks for that watched till end great explanation as to how some tuners are not getting it right,especially here in the UK yes you can get more power and torque easy enough,but the smoothness is at least as important if not more so just a pity your stateside,keep up the good work.
Great detailed explanation, thanks!
Great Job!!,
Now the main question.... How to get your tune on a EU bike... 😉
I am also interested and i think many other guys too. 🙏
There are just too many things out of my control that can cause issues. When they happen they are too expensive and take too long to fix. Sorry
@@vcyclenut what is the main problem? The cat? The second sensor after the cat? Will your flash only work without cat?
@@Fosite there isn’t one main problem there are several little ones that add up to a higher percentage of issues
Different markets have different ecu part numbers that sometimes have subtle differences
I can’t test these differences with my equipment
Fuel is different so fuel and ignition timing requirements may change
Base mapping is different.
Shipping issues are more common
@@vcyclenut That's a shame man.... Because I think you are a very capable man with the knowledge how to do things....
Do you know some EU colleagues to go to??
Great explanation 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, for how long have you been or since when was it possible for you to tune bikes this way? I mean for the first gen CP3; is your flash developed like this?
Thanks for your reply.
Yes. I’ve been doing this type of tuning since day 1.
I learned. Thanks.
Glad to hear it!
Feeling seen with the comment on sitting at work lol
lol, busted!!
Hey boss, i was curious if you have built any tunes for the DNA Stage 2 kits for the 24 mt09 yet
Literally working on it now
@@vcyclenut good gravy i cant wait
@@predalienftw th-cam.com/video/U_XiCIAgXqQ/w-d-xo.html
Is it bad I also want an economy gas mileage tune too 😂.. besides the full power smooth throttle with no fuel cut. 😅
Tuners here I can't even get to call back or message for a dyno. One answer 2 messages then I asked estimate and when and crickets. Called. Crickets. Tried another asking for dyno pulls before having it tuned. And no response 😂
no, not bad
my method of street tuning end up with a fairly efficient tune. Saying that, I always tell people if you really want good gas mileage dont touch your bike
@vcyclenut I just want throttle to stay open. H2 SX is only 100% like 1000rpms. By redline I thinks it's at 35% lmao like 12% by 12.5k. I'm sure u have the tables there 🤣 🤣 🤣
I just wanted to set medium up as stock map espevially in first maybe don't close throttle so much after 11k lmao. Then full power a lil more ump .. don't need balls to the walls. Might women gears if I ever get a chance to tune it
@@QSpeedRacer my stock bike H2sx tune has a fuel mileage tune in Low power mode and gets better fuel mileage then the stock tune under normal riding
@vcyclenut yea I seen you say it one of ur videos. I Watch alot of ur vids
I had a go on flashed bike done here,good increase in power and torque but the low speed throttle 3/4k was poor and snatchy.
Have you tested the M4 yet?
It’s ordered, just waiting on it to arrive to do my testing and tuning with it
Question, do you know of anything that would allow for data logging on an MT09SP?
The woolich log box with z tronics wide band kit
If your in the usa I can get you 5% off of the kit
@@vcyclenut I live in Canada. I'll start looking into that though.
@@TheIamfrustrated I can ship there also
Contact me through my website if your interested
www.vcyclenut.com/contact-me.html
Did u do the flash and dyno test on that TOCE ?
I did. That video is dropping in the morning :)
@@vcyclenut thanks, great :)) and what air filter do you have installed ?
@@michaellb1880 stock. I found no gains with a drop in filter
I have the dna stage 2 on the way and will be testing it next week
www.vcyclenut.com/2024-mt09-intake-testing.html
@@vcyclenut thats what i was actually interesting, DNA stage 2 with TOCE, Yoshimura or SC-Project
@@michaellb1880 I will have to go back and retest/tune all
The different exhausts with the stage 2.
Can I do pops and bangs well 🔥 with a slip on
No. The catalytic converter will stop them from being heard.
They will be quieter ones. Your neighbours will still be able to sleep but you will be able to hear them.
Does the decel table make the burble
Lessening the engine braking will decrease the burble a little but it’s small
I like the burble I get with my gsx-8s and toce exhaust.
My first time tuning a car. Was in car with friend. Laptop running logging him watching afr, iat, knock. And cruising all different throttles and then full throttle pulls 🤣 🤣
Is it bad i like to see u run on the dyno 🤣
lol, no , not bad at all!! I feel like I win the cool tool game every time I operate it
@@vcyclenut 🤣 he's like 5+ hp time to adjust my tune in me.