It’s so ordinary that I don’t even know what is spiritual anymore. I mean, beauty, stillness, being, flowing with life’s circumstances are all standard for me now. Sadness and anger have dissolved almost completely. I don’t mind what happens is reality
@@haraldtheyounger5504 Hilarious and causing much mirth as I delightfully laugh out loud. And yet, who's to say he didn't get his equilibrium in the end.
Yes, and only through suffering can we rid ourselves of the mountain of black karma that we have acquired over so many lives that we have lived................Falun Dafa
Yes,the body grows old...and is not a measure of divinity It is about the inner resident(soul) which sees the body growing old,but itself it remains unchanged
Agree on missing the small things. It reminds me of MV Summers' text on deepening your spiritual practice: _Here you are living life, but only at ten percent. You are missing everything else. Running around, busy, caught up, you are missing ninety percent. You are missing the good parts, the best parts._ And Tolle here says the same... The price of not being present...
I love Eckhart so much. I had a dream that I met him on another plane. Or maybe it was astral travel, I don't know, but in my sleep I was aware of this man's deeper existence on a higher plane, like I saw him as an angel. Hard to explain, but it was very profound. To be able to sit in my chair and listen to him, just being simply human in this realm to help us, feels like a special angelic gift. I have also listened to a lot of Krishnamurti"s talks, so to know he resonates so much with his teachings is so beautiful. So many ways we can learn about love. And the true meaning of what it is.❤
@@kolarz2128 This is a quotation from the English poet William Blake. He brought this quotation here because both Blake and Krishnamurti are saying the same thing. Both are mystics.
@@kolarz2128 Oh dear, you are beginning to sound pedantic. The mystical poet Blake is describing the apparent objects of the material world with words like eternity, infinity and heaven which are words that are usually ascribed to God. And of course maybe you don't like the word God because Krishnamurti does not like using the word God as expressed by all religions because all religions are sterile, materialistic, finite and the word God just like any other words can never describe the Unknown. So, maybe we can use the word Consciousness instead of the word God for you? Or we can use the word Presence that Toll uses. People like Krishnamurti, Blake, Tolle, St. Francis, Walt Whitman,Jesus, Gautama the Buddha,Francis bacon, Dante, Spinoza, Shri Ramana Maharshi, Paul Brunton and many others have all had mystical experiences which is a consciousness of the Cosmic or Cosmic Consciousness. And whether you like it or not, a direct experience with the essence of matter, with the Cosmic, with the soul in man, with the soul in things, with that which is beyond and infused in matter is like having an experience with the divine, with the eternal and infinite. The material and objective world is finite, transient and not permanent. All matter derives its existence from that which is infinite, eternal, and immaterial. Matter is finite, and spirit is infinite. Krishnamurti does talk about eternity in these quotes: "AS LONG AS a human being lives in the river of sorrow and does not end it, humanity will go on endlessly in that stream. But when there is an ending to that, there is a totally different dimension in which there is no beginning and no ending, and that is absolutely timeless. This you have to come upon by living it. When you are attached to something, end it today, not tomorrow. And one can. There is pleasure in attachment and possession. Look at this pleasure and see what the implications of that pleasure are: fear of losing, fear of not having the same thing tomorrow, jealousy, anxiety, hatred - all that comes out of that attachment. Seeing all this as a whole and instantly ending it is dying to it all now, and therefore there is a totally different dimension in which there is neither an ending nor a beginning, which is eternity." Krishnamurti in Saanen 1976, Talk 6 “In the present is eternity, and to understand that, mind must be free of the burden of the past; and to free the mind of the past there must be an intense questioning of the present, not the considering of how the “I” will continue in the future.” - Jiddu Krishnamurti "Self-discipline must be born out of the love of Life-vast, immeasurable, whole, unconditioned, limitless, to which all humanity belongs." "To become such men you must live in the eternal now, in that moment of eternity which is neither the future nor the past. In you must be concentrated that understanding, that immense power which shall destroy the unrealities, the unessential things that surround the self. "
I whole heartedly agree with you. Eckart translates K’s work into something I can finally practice. It has always been just beyond my reach…until, well, now.
I just started listening to you .. after listening to JK for so long. Don’t know why but it seems such a natural transition from his teaching to your. There is no bumpy ride.. only a continuous, ever expending awareness.
Merci Eckhart d'avoir évoqué Krishnaji avec le Notebook. Il y a aussi encore quelques uns de ses livres aux pages jaunies sur les rayons, le premier était le Vol de l'Aigle, un bien joli titre. Le son de sa voix, son regard , son sourire, la force de sa présence restent vivants en moi. Beaucoup de tendresse aujourd'hui.
11:55 When you are not in the present, life isn't interesting. Then you look for something big and ignore the small things. In the present, the simple becomes extraordinary. The miracles of life are all around you. Don't ignore the small things. Thanks Eckhart. 20 July 2023.🤡🔦⛩⛩🕯🐓🎅🍇✈
Jack: "Now I don’t want to be somewhere else anymore. Not waiting for anything new to happen. Not looking around the next corner, not the next hill. Here now. That’s enough." Joy: "That’s your kind of happy, isn’t it?" Jack: "Yes. Yes it is." Joy: "It is not going to last, Jack." Jack: "We shouldn’t think about that now. Lets’ not spoil the time we have together." Joy: "It doesn’t spoil it. I makes it real. Let me just say it before this rain stops, and we go back." Jack: "What’s there to say?" Joy: "That I’m going to die and I want to go with you then, too. The only way I can do that is if I’m able to talk to you about it now." Jack: "I’ll manage somehow. Don’t worry about me." Joy: "No, I think it can be better than just managing. What I am trying to say is that the pain then is part of the happiness now. That’s the deal." This conversation was held between Debra Winger (alias Joy Gresham) and Anthony Hopkins (C.S. "Jack" Lewis) in the movie "Shadowlands". It's somehow relevant related to this particular topic, perhaps.
Your comment is very relevant to me, because coincidentally I just heard about that film recently and I've been intending to see it. Seeing your comment now convinces me even more that I have got to watch it. It sounds like an incredible movie. And the fact of pain following pleasure, is something Krishnamurti spoke about all the time.
I can not help but notice how Krishna’s writings in the past tense speaks to me more than if is written in the present, as if he’s traveling to now to tell me how it was now
Thank You so much for revisiting J. Krishnamurthy. I didn't know about that book, nor the other one you mentioned either, but I did know about the first one he did ' write ' or better say channeled: _At the Feet or the Master_ . I do appreciate this personal sharing from your own history 💕 A Real _Gift_ !!🌹🙏✨✨✨
Questo libro che dici tu è un libro scritto sotto la pressione di quell' gruppo di persone che lo hanno sequestrato e hanno provato di lavargli cervello. Quando si ha liberato ha parlato tutto un altra cosa. Suo diario è libro più speciale che esiste.
"The miracle of life". 🙏 Infinite thanks for this wonderful tribute to that great soul of Krishnamurti and to Life. Which are then the same thing...❤️ 💓🙏
Hallmark characteristic of Jiddu Krishnamurthy is his ability to completely be free from mental conditionings .. mental conditioning means thoughts and thoughts cloud the present moment . He is completely and unconditionally immersed in the ‘ present ‘moment. He carries consciousness on his sleeve .. ☺️😊. Eckart Tolle’s NOW = JK’s Unconditioned Observation .
@@RobertF- agree but he was not as compassionate as Tolle is … in a way he was quite ruthless in expecting everyone to throw their beliefs in the bin . Belief to the mind is like walking stick to an elderly person… u can’t , in a jiffy , throw away your belief and hang on to nothing . His realisations might have been the highest of truths & he might have reached it without following any path …but …realising truth , for some , is a process … and JK hates processes 🥹😅 It’s sad but true that one size doesn’t fit all . To each it’s own. His favourite topic is human life and it’s conflict …. He is like a Doctor who diagnose your terminal disease but neither gives medicine ( truth is pathless path ) nor allows you to take any medicine ( No GURU ) which is prescribed by your peers …. With JK - U take medicine u r damned and if u don’t take u r damned too 😅
JK ruthless, hopeless ? For sure, the teaching is not for the faint hearted, which we are in spite of, or rather due to our past knowledge, beliefs, habits etc ' Krishnamurti’s teaching will seem hopeless until we perceive that his blows are aimed only at our chains' (approximate translation of claude Bragdon's quotation).
And that’s it. Very beautiful! Wish I could hear rest of this talk where Eckhart would read other excerpts from book..yes I could purchase or borrow book but would love to hear Eckhart’s overview.
@@haraldtheyounger5504 We may have good eyesight and hearing, we still don't see reality as it is (our own greed, jaleousy, our small interests ...). It's what is meant here.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. First of all, be sure I did not expect him to be a saint. It was only by reading about him and listening to his talks on TH-cam that I began to seriously examine the thought process, conditioning, the relationship to time, loneliness, boredom, family, politicians, memory, death, etc which are of paramount importance in bringing us closer to the human condition. No book, no job, no museum, no movie, no trip near or far, could help me more than my discovery of J Krishnamurti and, finally exhausted by all my activities, I am perhaps now able to look at myself more clearly, as I am. There is nowhere to go. I owe him a lot. What else can I add ?
@@haraldtheyounger5504 Thank you for taking time to comment. First of all, be sure I do not expect him to be a saint. It was only by reading about him and listening to his talks on TH-cam that I began to seriously examine the thought process, conditioning, knowledge, our relationship to time, boredom/loneliness, family, politics, media, memory, death, etc..., which are of paramount importance in bringing us closer to the human condition. No book, no job, no museum, no movie, no trip near or far, could help me more than my discovery of J Krishnamurti and, finally exhausted by all my frantic activities, I am perhaps now able to look at myself as clearly as possible, seeing there is definitely nowhere to go. I owe him a lot. What else can I add?
J krishna moorthy... The highest state of being. The awareness beyond all manmade frontiers. I bought that book on 4th feb 1984 after listening to his talks directly. It took me to higher state of awareness... the what is as against what has been and what should have beens..
I carry a miniature J Krishnamurti book of statements on meditation, in my pocketbook, which has been in my pocketbook since the 1970`s. He is one of my hero`s.
Or in the Netherlands (Ommen). He also gave a meeting in Amsterdam. Had I known that, I probably would have gone to see him. I was (and am) very impressed with his way of talking. That helped me a lot in letting go of all concepts, teachings and philisophies. Now I know enough and that is, as Socrates said, that in fact I know nothing. And that's enough (or rather: everything) :)
When they said she was going crazy, she was awakening. When they said that she was isolating, she was healing. When they said she was acting funny, she was growing. When they said that she had changed, she was evolving. When they said she did not care anymore, she finally realized that her peace lives within.
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I was listening to Eckhart (which I haven’t really done much to be honest) and I was struck by my sense that he must have been influenced or at least aligned with the thinking of Krishnamurti in some way. How pleasing was it to do a Google search and discover this video! Ah if only this lineage of thought was permeating more widely through mainstream Western society. It would make such a difference to the way we are being guided to navigate the times we are in.
Do you spend more time feeling grateful for what you do have… or disappointed for what you don’t? Imagine you are holding any problems in your hand. Like a little toy, or a stone. Turn the problem around, as if it was a diamond with many facets. Allow yourself the fullness of the experience. See the different colors flashing, representing how multi-faceted the world really is. The change of perspective will allow you to see more than you could before. Is there anything you can now see that the pain was blocking?
@51, I imagine losing all that’s important to me. What’s your list? What would you do to get it back? Anything? Well, you still have them. Immense Joy and Gratitude. Peace.
I spend most of my time avoiding driving over the homeless who walked into the median, avoiding gun violence at church and avoiding spiritual teachers who don't pay my bills. I'm not being facetious.
I found the back of my mind! Seriously. Maybe others have too but I thought it was pretty cool. I cleared my mind of thought but I could hear the main narrative I have due to follow politics was running in the background at a much lower "volume". Anyone else find this?
Gurdjieff talked about someone who remembered themselves as being extra ordinary. Always with 2 words. One common interpretation was they're being, embracing and fully manifesting being ordinary, as opposed to the "ego's" delusions of being something it's not. Gurdjieff was adamant but the accuracy of language and using precise definitions for words. He didn't use the word "ego" in it's modern sense, because as he pointed out, it's original meaning in ancient Greek was The Self. So Gurdjieff preferred the terms "false personality" and "true personality". Neither being who we really are, or The Self, but one being useless at best, destructive at worst, while the other was useful and necessary to protect The Self. Just an interesting take on extra ordinary, for our contemplation.
And the ego goes “ this video was made just for me, how extraordinary “ until it isn’t and then the extraordinary becomes mundane and the mundane becomes extraordinary
Yes,Viivik book Awakening the inner light is really transforming,inspiring , life changing read and on another level give it atleast a try and you will be amazed.
Indeed wonderful things happen when we succeed in watching and observing nature in all of its instant miraculousness without any mental anticipation, expectation or interpretation. If we really reach the level of utter stillness and presence in those observations by completely silencing all of our inner voices, something transcendental takes place that even takes us beyond sensory perception. One might suggest that a higher and totally undefined intelligence takes over and energetically unites us with the scenery or movements being observed; there is no difference or division left on "both sides of our eyes", which connects us with a deepest and purest sense of immortality beyond any mental notion or concept of transience. Even while you are reading these very words right now, that same neutral presence and awareness can connect you with this underlying energetic field that will effortlessly read between the lines of what is being written, and thus combining both the observer and the observed. One could call that place "home" in some sense, while actually being nowhere and everywhere at the same time; it is where we truly grasp the seamless unity between our temporary appearance on this Earthly stage and the very origin of stars.
Krishnamurti never referred to himself as a "spiritual leader" or an extraordinary person and would have been mortified by anyone referring to him as such. He spent his life exploring meaning and understanding dispassionately detached from ego, judgement or ambition.
Krishnamurti somos todos nós. Mas para nós isso é um enorme problema, porque ele disse " vejam senhores, a história termina aqui" e nós dizemos "não, mostre-nos o que podemos fazer com isso".
After watching countless videos of Jiddu's lectures, I came away realizing that he had no use for "awakened" individuals. He said if someone claims "enlightenment" or some other such nonsense that they were not telling the truth. I also realized that I have no idea what he is talking about and judging by the comments proffered here and elsewhere I realize neither does anyone else have a clue what he is talking about. Just sayin'.
K said many times. Don't listen to me. I'm not your Guru. Don't read books. Follow no one. Reject all religions. He pretty much BS's all mystics, chants, mantras, etc. Everything you need you always had. There's no secret. There's no journey. There's not some magic thing somewhere outside of you. When you say screw it and stop looking, you've found it. He said the Observer IS the Observed. Right back where you always were. Now, that's freedom. When you give it all up. Janis Joplin was right. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. When self dies, freedom arises and mindfulness lingers. This is it. This moment IS the psychedelic experience! Live life to its top. Isn't that enough! It better be.
Krishnamurti's message which he kept repeating till his death was that he was not anyone's guru or teacher. So why are we still paying ANY attention to him?
Eckhart Tolle has never described going through a spiritual "process" that causes physical pain like Jiddu Krishnamurti described going through. There are some similarities to the teachings of Tolle and Krishnamurti, but there are also very many differences.
@@RobertF- yes, on the surface but the principle is the same. ET said somewhere about being influenced by JK and Ramana Maharshi and is like a continuation of their teachings. For me on simpler, easier, more modern terms although i had difficulty understanding JK teachings, i had my first spiritual breakthrough with him 40 years ago.
@@karennoble1076 🇨🇦 A person at a lower level of evolution will always have difficulties understanding someone at a higher level. JK was my mentor and I have been following him for years. I still don't understand him in full.
@Paul, imo the awakening (I'm reluctant to call it spiritual) shares a lot with what is described in psychology (becoming more present and reconciled to reality; less affected by the past; less trying to control the future). Awakening (to me) is about recognizing the constant inner-narration we tend to do as a habit. From that perspective, then if someone is more identified with their self-talk (their inner explanation of their experience in life, what was, is, will be), if that inner confabulation (distracting fro the reality of the moment) is more existential (they _have_ to believe it, the alternative is too painful), then the subconscious can produce physical symptoms of pain (or other mental symptoms than the mild delusion the person lives in as a pleasure). Psychosomatism is real. Coping mechanisms are real. If a coping mechanism is important & invalidated, the subconscious can produce very real symptoms of pain to distract from whatever it's protecting the person from (typically repressed anger, shame, trauma). It's like "if you're not going to play the game with the narrative, then I'll give you pain to distract you from what you're starting to get too close to." (I have a little more to say about this. I'll do a new reply.)
@Paul (continuing...) keep in mind that your subconscious is a whopping 95% of your brain. Your conscious experience _emerges_ from that into the 5%. In fact, scientists (Libet, Vago) have discovered that it emerges 1/2 second _after_ the moment occurs. Your 5% conscious experience (it's really more like 2.5% because the average person is distracted half the time) treats that emergent experience as real, like it's happening right now, produced/controlled by the conscious mind (all it's own doing). It's a very rationalizing mind that makes it make sense (when it's coming from a very irrational 95% part of the mind we have little access to). If you can realize that (make it real in your mind, that you're really driven in your experience of reality, the moment. It's largely conceived for you, and you "make it work" without realizing what's really happening), that can be powerful as a step in "individuating" from the auto-pilot mind. But, as said before, if there's repressed subconscious trauma, anger, shame... then you could experience a lot of suffering or instability in your mind. Think of it as an addiction. If you've practiced "auto-pilot" identification with the story in the mind for a reason, then there's some reconcilation to do. It's not real. But, it can feel real (it is real until more fully realized as not real). It can be a hard road when 95% of your brain is affecting you. (But, a huge relief that it's not real.). My awakening experience began early 2013. In 2015-16, I went through a period of 4-5 months of occasionally hearing voices. At that time, it seemed to me like my subconscious was _shouting_ at me, "fine! you're bent on undoing all the help I've done to protect you from this. Well, [THIS] is what you have to face." It was like certain topics that were likely what were repressed, ir-reconciled that seemed to be what I was hearing as a voice. I thought I was losing my mind for a few months. It was so obviously not a thought that I'd pause and think "that wasn't a thought. I can't deny that I heard that like I hear a car start." (then I'd realize what it meant, and let it go.). I wouldn't underestimate the power of the subconscious. I can say more if any of this resonates with you.
Is there a connection between the names Krishna and Christ? Or is it just a very interesting coincidence? Did Hinduism from India affect Judaism in Israel?
The word KRSNA (krishna) is an adjective meaning blue-colored, as in the color of congealed sky, in Sanskrit. You conflate because nobody told you that.
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@@RobertF- but Jesus's surname wasn't Christ, in fact his name wasn't Jesus at all, it was Yeshua. That is of course if he ever actually lived at all. Sorry but that's what is in the history books tell us and its only in translations that Yeshua becomes Joshua and then becomes Jesus, so this particular theory is at best weak and at worst unintentionally putting 2 and 2 together to make 97 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I often quote krishnamurti ‘it’s no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society’ such wisdom!
Hi didn’t say it! It’s a myth 🥲
I cited it just yesterday
@@phil.the._then who said it?
That’s a good one
My favorite quote 🤩
"Do you want to know what my secret is? I don't mind what happens! "
So simple yet such a deep beautiful quote by J. Krishnamurthi.
Yes, my favorite quote!!!!!
Do you want to know what my secret is? I DO mind what happens to my other-half as she goes through chemotherapy for the fourth time. Platitude city.
@@radiojet1429 😥
@@Robert-vm8vw Oh, I'm sure you care a whole bunch about what happens to your money. Every time.
It’s so ordinary that I don’t even know what is spiritual anymore. I mean, beauty, stillness, being, flowing with life’s circumstances are all standard for me now. Sadness and anger have dissolved almost completely. I don’t mind what happens is reality
Nature is always there for us, always extending a helping hand trying to bring us back to our inner equilibrium ❤️🌱💚
@@haraldtheyounger5504 Hilarious and causing much mirth as I delightfully laugh out loud. And yet, who's to say he didn't get his equilibrium in the end.
Yes, and only through suffering can we rid ourselves of the mountain of black karma that we have acquired over so many lives that we have lived................Falun Dafa
This man never grows a day older! He is a blessing to the mankind 🙏
This is a old video….but I agree ….
Yes,the body grows old...and is not a measure of divinity
It is about the inner resident(soul) which sees the body growing old,but itself it remains unchanged
Growing up in Ojai am familiar with Krishnamurti. He was and still is present in such a beautiful place as Ojai.
Agree on missing the small things. It reminds me of MV Summers' text on deepening your spiritual practice: _Here you are living life, but only at ten percent. You are missing everything else. Running around, busy, caught up, you are missing ninety percent. You are missing the good parts, the best parts._ And Tolle here says the same... The price of not being present...
Yes. We have to stop and smell the solitary rose.
Thanks for sharing, Eckart.
Thanks for sharing!
Being present and discovering why we are here are two different issues......................Falun Dafa
I love Eckhart so much. I had a dream that I met him on another plane. Or maybe it was astral travel, I don't know, but in my sleep I was aware of this man's deeper existence on a higher plane, like I saw him as an angel. Hard to explain, but it was very profound. To be able to sit in my chair and listen to him, just being simply human in this realm to help us, feels like a special angelic gift. I have also listened to a lot of Krishnamurti"s talks, so to know he resonates so much with his teachings is so beautiful. So many ways we can learn about love. And the true meaning of what it is.❤
I can relate so much to what you are saying❤
@@poppopopp-k3j I am so happy to hear! Much love!!
He is just a small step..........................Falun Dafa
Beautiful story. I have Krishnamurti‘s Notebook since about 25 years in my bookshelf. It‘s time to read it now. 🙏
Why now?
@@radiojet1429, why not? The time is always NOW.
Ive read it once i must read it again
Sir Eckhart Please Try and make video on Viivik book on Awakening the Inner light.Written by Greatest Unknown anonymous Sage(Master).
Skip it and move way up to Falun Dafa
Good morning Eckhart and thanks for sharing!💜
“To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.”
It's not Krishnamurtis quote, so why to bring it in here?
@@kolarz2128 This is a quotation from the English poet William Blake. He brought this quotation here because both Blake and Krishnamurti are saying the same thing. Both are mystics.
@@RowntreeRobin I have never heard anything of such matters as eternity, infinity etc. from Krishnamurti.
@@kolarz2128 Oh dear, you are beginning to sound pedantic. The mystical poet Blake is describing the apparent objects of the material world with words like eternity, infinity and heaven which are words that are usually ascribed to God. And of course maybe you don't like the word God because Krishnamurti does not like using the word God as expressed by all religions because all religions are sterile, materialistic, finite and the word God just like any other words can never describe the Unknown. So, maybe we can use the word Consciousness instead of the word God for you? Or we can use the word Presence that Toll uses. People like Krishnamurti, Blake, Tolle, St. Francis, Walt Whitman,Jesus, Gautama the Buddha,Francis bacon, Dante, Spinoza, Shri Ramana Maharshi, Paul Brunton and many others have all had mystical experiences which is a consciousness of the Cosmic or Cosmic Consciousness. And whether you like it or not, a direct experience with the essence of matter, with the Cosmic, with the soul in man, with the soul in things, with that which is beyond and infused in matter is like having an experience with the divine, with the eternal and infinite. The material and objective world is finite, transient and not permanent. All matter derives its existence from that which is infinite, eternal, and immaterial. Matter is finite, and spirit is infinite.
Krishnamurti does talk about eternity in these quotes:
"AS LONG AS a human being lives in the river of sorrow and does not end it, humanity will go on endlessly in that stream. But when there is an ending to that, there is a totally different dimension in which there is no beginning and no ending, and that is absolutely timeless. This you have to come upon by living it. When you are attached to something, end it today, not tomorrow. And one can. There is pleasure in attachment and possession. Look at this pleasure and see what the implications of that pleasure are: fear of losing, fear of not having the same thing tomorrow, jealousy, anxiety, hatred - all that comes out of that attachment. Seeing all this as a whole and instantly ending it is dying to it all now, and therefore there is a totally different dimension in which there is neither an ending nor a beginning, which is eternity."
Krishnamurti in Saanen 1976, Talk 6
“In the present is eternity, and to understand that, mind must be free of the burden of the past; and to free the mind of the past there must be an intense questioning of the present, not the considering of how the “I” will continue in the future.”
- Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Self-discipline must be born out of the love of Life-vast, immeasurable, whole, unconditioned, limitless, to which all humanity belongs."
"To become such men you must live in the eternal now, in that moment of eternity which is neither the future nor the past. In you must be concentrated that understanding, that immense power which shall destroy the unrealities, the unessential things that surround the self. "
Thanks
Rest in powerful peace 🙏
Jiddu Krishnamurti
11 May 1895 ~
17 February 1986⚘
Krishnmaurti loathed sentimentality
I am from 11 may 1995 😂
"All time is now."
_- Jiddu Krishnamurti_
Thank u so much for this 🙏 i love Krishnamurthy and I love Ekhart...two great teachers of their eras ❤
Now there is Falun Dafa
I love Krishnamurti. Thank you for this.Although I have to admit I understood K much better after reading The Power of Now.
I whole heartedly agree with you. Eckart translates K’s work into something I can finally practice. It has always been just beyond my reach…until, well, now.
To see the extraordinary in the ordinary ♥️ thank you 🙏
I just started listening to you .. after listening to JK for so long. Don’t know why but it seems such a natural transition from his teaching to your. There is no bumpy ride.. only a continuous, ever expending awareness.
Just a very tiny step on the Way.................Falun Dafa
Merci Eckhart d'avoir évoqué Krishnaji avec le Notebook.
Il y a aussi encore quelques uns de ses livres aux pages jaunies sur les rayons, le premier était le Vol de l'Aigle, un bien joli titre.
Le son de sa voix, son regard , son sourire, la force de sa présence restent vivants en moi.
Beaucoup de tendresse aujourd'hui.
11:55
When you are not in the present, life isn't interesting. Then you look for something big and ignore the small things.
In the present, the simple becomes extraordinary. The miracles of life are all around you.
Don't ignore the small things.
Thanks Eckhart. 20 July 2023.🤡🔦⛩⛩🕯🐓🎅🍇✈
Yes, so wonderful 🙏
When I'm in the present, science is all around me. Miracles are when my wife likes my taste in music.
This drove me to tears. Thank you!
Sweetie, you need some chocolate and a life.
A spiritual teacher of our times. Thanks to OPRAH for getting him to a worldwide audience! Blessings!
Oprah 🤣
Her one home run to go along with a bunch of strikeouts
Leave Oprah out of it!
Faux-prah
Compared to Falun Dafa he is kindergarten.
Jack: "Now I don’t want to be somewhere else anymore. Not waiting for anything new to happen. Not looking around the next corner, not the next hill. Here now. That’s enough."
Joy: "That’s your kind of happy, isn’t it?"
Jack: "Yes. Yes it is."
Joy: "It is not going to last, Jack."
Jack: "We shouldn’t think about that now. Lets’ not spoil the time we have together."
Joy: "It doesn’t spoil it. I makes it real. Let me just say it before this rain stops, and we go back."
Jack: "What’s there to say?"
Joy: "That I’m going to die and I want to go with you then, too. The only way I can do that is if I’m able to talk to you about it now."
Jack: "I’ll manage somehow. Don’t worry about me."
Joy: "No, I think it can be better than just managing. What I am trying to say is that the pain then is part of the happiness now. That’s the deal."
This conversation was held between Debra Winger (alias Joy Gresham) and Anthony Hopkins (C.S. "Jack" Lewis) in the movie "Shadowlands". It's somehow relevant related to this particular topic, perhaps.
Your comment is very relevant to me, because coincidentally I just heard about that film recently and I've been intending to see it. Seeing your comment now convinces me even more that I have got to watch it. It sounds like an incredible movie.
And the fact of pain following pleasure, is something Krishnamurti spoke about all the time.
I can not help but notice how Krishna’s writings in the past tense speaks to me more than if is written in the present, as if he’s traveling to now to tell me how it was now
Thank you, Eckhart.
I own this book. I will read it again.
I would say this is my favourite of Eckhart's talks here online..
Thank You so much for revisiting J. Krishnamurthy. I didn't know about that book, nor the other one you mentioned either, but I did know about the first one he did ' write ' or better say channeled: _At the Feet or the Master_ . I do appreciate this personal sharing from your own history 💕 A Real _Gift_ !!🌹🙏✨✨✨
Questo libro che dici tu è un libro scritto sotto la pressione di quell' gruppo di persone che lo hanno sequestrato e hanno provato di lavargli cervello. Quando si ha liberato ha parlato tutto un altra cosa. Suo diario è libro più speciale che esiste.
"The miracle of life". 🙏
Infinite thanks for this wonderful tribute to that great soul of Krishnamurti and to Life.
Which are then the same thing...❤️
💓🙏
Krishnamurti did not believe in the existence of the soul (JIVA in Sanskrit).
@@radiojet1429 you can call it as you like. I call it soul love life...Words doesn't matter 🙏
@@veraintuizione6497 Yup! words are one of the lower forms of communication, because they mean different things to different people . 💓✌️
@@Newfoundmike Anyway they are just words.... Not the Real meaning of the Love or Consciusness as you prefer...🙏
Miracles around you!❤
Science around you
Hallmark characteristic of Jiddu Krishnamurthy is his ability to completely be free from mental conditionings .. mental conditioning means thoughts and thoughts cloud the present moment . He is completely and unconditionally immersed in the ‘ present ‘moment. He carries consciousness on his sleeve .. ☺️😊.
Eckart Tolle’s NOW = JK’s Unconditioned Observation .
And also another hallmark characteristic of Jiddu Krishnamurti is an absolutely beautiful way with words. He was an amazing poet.
Amazing ❤️
@@RobertF- agree but he was not as compassionate as Tolle is … in a way he was quite ruthless in expecting everyone to throw their beliefs in the bin . Belief to the mind is like walking stick to an elderly person… u can’t , in a jiffy , throw away your belief and hang on to nothing . His realisations might have been the highest of truths & he might have reached it without following any path …but …realising truth , for some , is a process … and JK hates processes 🥹😅
It’s sad but true that one size doesn’t fit all . To each it’s own.
His favourite topic is human life and it’s conflict ….
He is like a Doctor who diagnose your terminal disease but neither gives medicine ( truth is pathless path ) nor allows you to take any medicine ( No GURU ) which is prescribed by your peers …. With JK - U take medicine u r damned and if u don’t take u r damned too 😅
JK ruthless, hopeless ? For sure, the teaching is not for the faint hearted, which we are in spite of, or rather due to our past knowledge, beliefs, habits etc ' Krishnamurti’s teaching will seem hopeless until we perceive that his blows are aimed only at our chains' (approximate translation of claude Bragdon's quotation).
And that’s it. Very beautiful! Wish I could hear rest of this talk where Eckhart would read other excerpts from book..yes I could purchase or borrow book but would love to hear Eckhart’s overview.
This year i have read 3 power books that changed my life. One is "Power of now", second is "Freedom from within" and third is "Nisshitsu"
And now Falun Dafa (The Great Way).
Gracias E.T.
POR TUS ENSEÑANZAS Y BUENOS CONSEJOS
I talk with nature,I am nature for we are one. ✨💫🧚🏻
A Blessing and a very good Teacher.. 🎉🙏
How beautiful!
Thank You! 🙏💛
One beautiful man talking about another.
Seeing is Acting ,Listening is miracle. J.krishnamurti . He was really pure honest and
wholly
@@haraldtheyounger5504 We may have good eyesight and hearing, we still don't see reality as it is (our own greed, jaleousy, our small interests ...). It's what is meant here.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. First of all, be sure I did not expect him to be a saint. It was only by reading about him and listening to his talks on TH-cam that I began to seriously examine the thought process, conditioning, the relationship to time, loneliness, boredom, family, politicians, memory, death, etc which are of paramount importance in bringing us closer to the human condition. No book, no job, no museum, no movie, no trip near or far, could help me more than my discovery of J Krishnamurti and, finally exhausted by all my activities, I am perhaps now able to look at myself more clearly, as I am. There is nowhere to go. I owe him a lot. What else can I add ?
@@haraldtheyounger5504 Thank you for taking time to comment. First of all, be sure I do not expect him to be a saint. It was only by reading about him and listening to his talks on TH-cam that I began to seriously examine the thought process, conditioning, knowledge, our relationship to time, boredom/loneliness, family, politics, media, memory, death, etc..., which are of paramount importance in bringing us closer to the human condition. No book, no job, no museum, no movie, no trip near or far, could help me more than my discovery of J Krishnamurti and, finally exhausted by all my frantic activities, I am perhaps now able to look at myself as clearly as possible, seeing there is definitely nowhere to go. I owe him a lot. What else can I add?
What a beautiful story. Thank you !
J krishna moorthy... The highest state of being. The awareness beyond all manmade frontiers. I bought that book on 4th feb 1984 after listening to his talks directly.
It took me to higher state of awareness... the what is as against what has been and what should have beens..
I carry a miniature J Krishnamurti book of statements on meditation, in my pocketbook, which has been in my pocketbook since the 1970`s. He is one of my hero`s.
Thank you for your Love 👍🇩🇪.Dear master
Or in the Netherlands (Ommen). He also gave a meeting in Amsterdam. Had I known that, I probably would have gone to see him. I was (and am) very impressed with his way of talking. That helped me a lot in letting go of all concepts, teachings and philisophies. Now I know enough and that is, as Socrates said, that in fact I know nothing. And that's enough (or rather: everything) :)
Jk krishnamurti fragrance is still alive,to understand jk one need to understand himself, that is the beauty of his teaching..I.e only way to "be"
Very beautiful and interesting talk. Thank you very much 🙏❤
When they said she was going crazy, she was awakening.
When they said that she was isolating, she was healing.
When they said she was acting funny, she was growing.
When they said that she had changed, she was evolving.
When they said she did not care anymore, she finally realized that her peace lives within.
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Thank You 🙏
I was listening to Eckhart (which I haven’t really done much to be honest) and I was struck by my sense that he must have been influenced or at least aligned with the thinking of Krishnamurti in some way. How pleasing was it to do a Google search and discover this video! Ah if only this lineage of thought was permeating more widely through mainstream Western society. It would make such a difference to the way we are being guided to navigate the times we are in.
Do you spend more time feeling grateful for what you do have… or disappointed for what you don’t?
Imagine you are holding any problems in your hand. Like a little toy, or a stone. Turn the problem around, as if it was a diamond with many facets. Allow yourself the fullness of the experience. See the different colors flashing, representing how multi-faceted the world really is.
The change of perspective will allow you to see more than you could before. Is there anything you can now see that the pain was blocking?
@51, I imagine losing all that’s important to me. What’s your list? What would you do to get it back? Anything? Well, you still have them. Immense Joy and Gratitude. Peace.
I spend most of my time avoiding driving over the homeless who walked into the median, avoiding gun violence at church and avoiding spiritual teachers who don't pay my bills. I'm not being facetious.
Thank you!
Very beautiful talk, thank you ❤🙏
There is little greater than a flower.
Beautiful. Hopeful. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for Uploading this. ❤
Can you please upload more videos where Krishnamurti is being talked about by Eckhart Tolle?
Splendid and sensitive talk 🙏🙏
Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏😊
I found the back of my mind!
Seriously.
Maybe others have too but I thought it was pretty cool.
I cleared my mind of thought but I could hear the main narrative I have due to follow politics was running in the background at a much lower "volume".
Anyone else find this?
Loved it!
It's not about changing the world.
It's about changing your perspective.
Gurdjieff talked about someone who remembered themselves as being extra ordinary. Always with 2 words. One common interpretation was they're being, embracing and fully manifesting being ordinary, as opposed to the "ego's" delusions of being something it's not. Gurdjieff was adamant but the accuracy of language and using precise definitions for words. He didn't use the word "ego" in it's modern sense, because as he pointed out, it's original meaning in ancient Greek was The Self. So Gurdjieff preferred the terms "false personality" and "true personality". Neither being who we really are, or The Self, but one being useless at best, destructive at worst, while the other was useful and necessary to protect The Self. Just an interesting take on extra ordinary, for our contemplation.
From 12:00 to the end is sooooo true ! 👍
❤ loved the talk, there is an interesting review or story I came across that answers many issues related to the choice of his language
And the ego goes “ this video was made just for me, how extraordinary “ until it isn’t and then the extraordinary becomes mundane and the mundane becomes extraordinary
Eckhert is one of those who could read the phone book and people would get present.
Wonderful
So true and well said…
When you need money, it is a powerful feeling within you, and so of course through the law of attraction you will continue to attract needing money.
Yes,Viivik book Awakening the inner light is really transforming,inspiring , life changing read and on another level give it atleast a try and you will be amazed.
I love your talks 🩵
Nice.The little things make make up life.We ignore them at our own peril, missing life itself.
Incredible!
Indeed wonderful things happen when we succeed in watching and observing nature in all of its instant miraculousness without any mental anticipation, expectation or interpretation. If we really reach the level of utter stillness and presence in those observations by completely silencing all of our inner voices, something transcendental takes place that even takes us beyond sensory perception. One might suggest that a higher and totally undefined intelligence takes over and energetically unites us with the scenery or movements being observed; there is no difference or division left on "both sides of our eyes", which connects us with a deepest and purest sense of immortality beyond any mental notion or concept of transience. Even while you are reading these very words right now, that same neutral presence and awareness can connect you with this underlying energetic field that will effortlessly read between the lines of what is being written, and thus combining both the observer and the observed. One could call that place "home" in some sense, while actually being nowhere and everywhere at the same time; it is where we truly grasp the seamless unity between our temporary appearance on this Earthly stage and the very origin of stars.
Thankyou for sharing …
long-winded talk with no real substance. blather
One needs an enlightened spiritual master.....................Falun Dafa
Krishnamurti never referred to himself as a "spiritual leader" or an extraordinary person and would have been mortified by anyone referring to him as such. He spent his life exploring meaning and understanding dispassionately detached from ego, judgement or ambition.
Krishnamurti somos todos nós. Mas para nós isso é um enorme problema, porque ele disse " vejam senhores, a história termina aqui" e nós dizemos "não, mostre-nos o que podemos fazer com isso".
It's the little things I just said this to someone yesterday 😊
And Buddha held up a flower, Mahakasyapa smiled in understanding.
Also read osho.
After watching countless videos of Jiddu's lectures, I came away realizing that he had no use for "awakened" individuals. He said if someone claims "enlightenment" or some other such nonsense that they were not telling the truth. I also realized that I have no idea what he is talking about and judging by the comments proffered here and elsewhere I realize neither does anyone else have a clue what he is talking about. Just sayin'.
K said many times. Don't listen to me. I'm not your Guru. Don't read books. Follow no one. Reject all religions. He pretty much BS's all mystics, chants, mantras, etc. Everything you need you always had. There's no secret. There's no journey. There's not some magic thing somewhere outside of you. When you say screw it and stop looking, you've found it. He said the Observer IS the Observed. Right back where you always were. Now, that's freedom. When you give it all up. Janis Joplin was right. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. When self dies, freedom arises and mindfulness lingers. This is it. This moment IS the psychedelic experience! Live life to its top. Isn't that enough! It better be.
One with Nature ❤
I had listened to the whole video of this which was over an hour but i cannot find it now
Anyone able to locate it? Stch an amazing vudeo!
Thanks for the subtitle ❤
Wonderful and so true!!
Check "Freedom from the known" by K.
My two favs Eckhart and JK❤
Such a lovely diversion 👍🏿🧡👍🏿🌸💋
Krishnamurti has thousands of followers , not one of them has any intention of doing what he talked about in bringing an end to the self.
😊🙏💚¡Bellísimo!
thank you xo
Beautiful ❤
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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Krishnamurti's message which he kept repeating till his death was that he was not anyone's guru or teacher. So why are we still paying ANY attention to him?
Very nice ❤
Dear Eckhart Please Try and make video on Viivik book on Awakening the Inner light.Written by Greatest Unknown anonymous Sage(Master).
I ❤ both!!!
Nature is willing to fulfil every need of Man expect one The Need of being Needed.
can we look forward to pain in our spine and our head with spiritual transformation ?
Eckhart Tolle has never described going through a spiritual "process" that causes physical pain like Jiddu Krishnamurti described going through. There are some similarities to the teachings of Tolle and Krishnamurti, but there are also very many differences.
@@RobertF- yes, on the surface but the principle is the same. ET said somewhere about being influenced by JK and Ramana Maharshi and is like a continuation of their teachings. For me on simpler, easier, more modern terms although i had difficulty understanding JK teachings, i had my first spiritual breakthrough with him 40 years ago.
@@karennoble1076 🇨🇦 A person at a lower level of evolution will always have difficulties understanding someone at a higher level. JK was my mentor and I have been following him for years. I still don't understand him in full.
@Paul, imo the awakening (I'm reluctant to call it spiritual) shares a lot with what is described in psychology (becoming more present and reconciled to reality; less affected by the past; less trying to control the future). Awakening (to me) is about recognizing the constant inner-narration we tend to do as a habit.
From that perspective, then if someone is more identified with their self-talk (their inner explanation of their experience in life, what was, is, will be), if that inner confabulation (distracting fro the reality of the moment) is more existential (they _have_ to believe it, the alternative is too painful), then the subconscious can produce physical symptoms of pain (or other mental symptoms than the mild delusion the person lives in as a pleasure). Psychosomatism is real. Coping mechanisms are real. If a coping mechanism is important & invalidated, the subconscious can produce very real symptoms of pain to distract from whatever it's protecting the person from (typically repressed anger, shame, trauma). It's like "if you're not going to play the game with the narrative, then I'll give you pain to distract you from what you're starting to get too close to."
(I have a little more to say about this. I'll do a new reply.)
@Paul (continuing...) keep in mind that your subconscious is a whopping 95% of your brain. Your conscious experience _emerges_ from that into the 5%. In fact, scientists (Libet, Vago) have discovered that it emerges 1/2 second _after_ the moment occurs. Your 5% conscious experience (it's really more like 2.5% because the average person is distracted half the time) treats that emergent experience as real, like it's happening right now, produced/controlled by the conscious mind (all it's own doing). It's a very rationalizing mind that makes it make sense (when it's coming from a very irrational 95% part of the mind we have little access to).
If you can realize that (make it real in your mind, that you're really driven in your experience of reality, the moment. It's largely conceived for you, and you "make it work" without realizing what's really happening), that can be powerful as a step in "individuating" from the auto-pilot mind. But, as said before, if there's repressed subconscious trauma, anger, shame... then you could experience a lot of suffering or instability in your mind. Think of it as an addiction. If you've practiced "auto-pilot" identification with the story in the mind for a reason, then there's some reconcilation to do. It's not real. But, it can feel real (it is real until more fully realized as not real). It can be a hard road when 95% of your brain is affecting you. (But, a huge relief that it's not real.).
My awakening experience began early 2013. In 2015-16, I went through a period of 4-5 months of occasionally hearing voices. At that time, it seemed to me like my subconscious was _shouting_ at me, "fine! you're bent on undoing all the help I've done to protect you from this. Well, [THIS] is what you have to face." It was like certain topics that were likely what were repressed, ir-reconciled that seemed to be what I was hearing as a voice. I thought I was losing my mind for a few months. It was so obviously not a thought that I'd pause and think "that wasn't a thought. I can't deny that I heard that like I hear a car start." (then I'd realize what it meant, and let it go.).
I wouldn't underestimate the power of the subconscious. I can say more if any of this resonates with you.
!Bellísima percepción
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Ever notice how Eckart and Joel Osteen are so similar !
I thought E was influenced by K. Intelligence recognises intelligence .Good on him.
Notice the similarities in the names: Christ-Krish.
Is there a connection between the names Krishna and Christ? Or is it just a very interesting coincidence?
Did Hinduism from India affect Judaism in Israel?
The word KRSNA (krishna) is an adjective meaning blue-colored, as in the color of congealed sky, in Sanskrit. You conflate because nobody told you that.
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@@RobertF- but Jesus's surname wasn't Christ, in fact his name wasn't Jesus at all, it was Yeshua. That is of course if he ever actually lived at all. Sorry but that's what is in the history books tell us and its only in translations that Yeshua becomes Joshua and then becomes Jesus, so this particular theory is at best weak and at worst unintentionally putting 2 and 2 together to make 97 🙏🙏🙏🙏
In German, Tolle means "great, fantastic, super, stunning, groovy."