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I love the outsole on the Speedgoats as well, brilliant on wet and dry rocky trails! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Loyd. Agree with you on the lacing as everything has to be pulled through so much to get a good fit over the top of the foot. I've done 26 miles in mine so far and I do really like them. I think I mentioned the tongue issue after the first run of 16 miles. It kept sliding down meaning the lace was on my foot. I tried a different way of lacing them up today and not one issue at all to report. Basically I took the lace through the tongue section 3 times while using the last eyelet. Sounds a bit overkill but it worked perfectly. I put a vid up earlier trying to show it. I'll be using them on the Howgills trail marathon in May and on the Lakeland 50 in July.
I'm enjoying them so far and I thinks it's going to be my go to shoe for distance. Glad you got your tounge issues sorted out 👍 Thanks for watching and best of luck with your up and coming races 🙏
Great review video, managed to get a pair to replace my SG4's. I absolutely love them, got a few longer runs in and no issues. These will be my shoes for the South West Traverse this year.
Thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed the video. The SG5's are a good choice for the South West Traverse 👍 Glad you're enjoying your shoes and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Great review!! I've been a big fan of the speedgoat 4 and I still luv um! I was a little reluctant on trying on a pair of the 5's since at the time they didn't come in a wide. I finally got a chance to try a pair of 5's on and was sold!!! First thing I did was swap out the 5's laces with the SG4 laces. Not sure what Hoka was thinking with the new laces...terrible!!! I'm on my 4th grand canyon rim-to-rim crossing this year and the 5's seem to be able to take the punishment!
One of the shoes that created more expectation for this year and seems not disappoiting. It's on my list, so maybe later in the year I will get a pair. SG3 got me hooked :)
The 3's were a brilliant shoe Javier! I'd say the 5's are good but not quite as good as the Speedgoat 3. I've been getting a lot of miles in them lately and I'm enjoying the way they feel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great honest review, probably not for me with the lack of overlays and lug depth. I still feel, from witnessing running buddies experience's, there's a mill or 2 missing off the lugs to transition into a dependable shoe in the wetter and colder hilly regions of the world. Look forward to the future reviews 👍.
Thanks Gavin, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. It's tricky when it comes to lug depth on a trail shoe that's designed to run on all types of terrain. If you put a deeper lug on the outsole it can sometimes effect how the shoe grips on other surfaces in a negative way. It can also wear down a lot quicker if you are crossing over to tarmac. When you are running on a big mix of terrain in lots of different weather conditions, it's hard to find a trail shoe that will grip everything perfectly 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the review. I agree with you on the midfoot lockdown. FIrst I thought it is just me but glad to hear it ´s not. That is the weak point + the tounge thickness/ length
I've managed to sort out the lickdown now and it's a lot better. Totally agree with you on the tounge, a bit more padding and lenght would have been nice! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Torsten, its really appreciated 🙏😊
I agree with pretty much all of this, Loyd. It's a shame you didn't try the EVO, I think it may possibly have the edge over the SG5. The Matryx upper was excellent, and the lacing was perfect. With that said, the SG5 is still fantastic, but I am intrigued to see how much of an issue the lacing is going to cause over the long-term. It seems like a massive oversight on Hoka's part.
The Evo was definitely a very much loved shoe in the trail community! I had a lot of friends who ran in it and raved about how good it was. I'm happy with the 5's but I still think the 3's where a bit better and that's the platform the Evo used. It's going to be interesting to see how they hold up over time when it comes to the laces and durability 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Thefifaplayeryant I preferred the foot hold in the SG3's, it definitely fitted my footshape better. It's not bad in the SG5'S but the 3's were slightly more fitted 👍
Oh also I wanted to thank you for your video... Your tips to your first 50k was amazing to prepare for my first 50k. Love your videos! I want to run in Cornwall now!
Thanks Betty, that's very kind. I'm really glad you enjoyed our video and you found it helpful 👍 We'll done on your first 50k and thanks for taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
Great vid as always pal, would love to see a comparison of these with the new Parkclaw you're testing, as they both seem to fit the bill for comfort and summer harder trails. Keep the vids coming , awesome channel !!!!!
Thanks Steve, really glad you enjoyed the video. I'll see what I can do about a comparison video, watch this space 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I still ❤️ my speedgoat 5. Would say it is comparable to Asics Fuji Lite 2 except the latter has better outsole traction, wear resistance and flexibility than Vibram imo. Speedgoat has so much foam that the jagged rocks cut the sole over time. I've slipped once in the Speedgoat but never in Fuji Lite 2 which i have owned for longer. Overall these 2 pairs are way more superior than big brands Salomon and Timberland that you'll not want another in other brands again.
I've heard good think about the Asics Fuji Lite 2 👍 I'll have to try and get hold of some to test on the channel. Timberland, do they make running shoes? 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I like the Fuji Lite² even if they feel odd, like taking a pair of tiny slippers onto the rocks'n'roots 😱 ...and surprisingly they deliver! Now, try the Fuji Speed... ...even more tiny slippers with boost 😎
Sounds very promising from your review. I’ve got to get to my local running shop to get a pair on foot. Past versions have been a little pinched in the toe hoping for this one is a bit more accommodating
I wouldn't say it's a wide shoe Greg but the upper is quite soft. I'd definitely try them on if you've had issues with previous versions 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I'm really not a fan of the runners knot it doesn't work for me. I just find it causes issue for the top of my foot, especially when there's a thin tounge with no padding 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review as always Loyd, just wondering how the uppers are holding out? I have Cascadia 16 which have split on both side at the same point (others I run with have the same issue in the same place) 300 miles in them so not too bad. I replaced them with Peregrine 12's and the uppers are starting to go on these, at the flex points (only 200 miles). Not good when you spend the money for these and the mid sole and sole are like new. Never run in Hoka before but really interested
I wouldn't say it's a wide shoe Ruel but it does have a bit more width and depth than the Speedgoat 3 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great shoe. Following you review I rush out and bought a pair and Ran 25 K finding that I cannot wear them again as they are way to tight for my wide feet. Heeeeelp what similar shoe can I buy for my clown wide fee?
Unfortunately I never run the Evo Speedgoat, I had quite a few friend that had them and raved about them! The Evo was definitely a bit lighter but having not run in them it's hard to say 🤔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I'm not a lover of adding things to shoes, I think it can cause other issues but I'll keep it in mind 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I hope so Betty 🤞 The Speedgoat 3's were super solid and I got good miles out of every pair! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
The 3's were a really good shoe for me, I'd say the 5's are still a little bit wider Dustin. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@paddywiggle That would make it a very different shoe to all previous Speedgoats. I would say the Ultraglide is actually slightly roomier in the toe box than all Speedgoats up to this one
Paddy has got it spot on! The Speedgoat does have a little bit more room in the toe box but the Ultra Glide definitely locks down around the midfoot better. Outsole grip is better on the Speedgoats but the Ultra Glide feels a bit more connected and nimble on technical terrain 👍 Hope this helps Dean, thanks for watching 🙏
@@Predazord007yes that's the case. It's the first speedgoat I can wear without feeling it's too cramped in the toe box. There's a bit of give in the upper such that it accommodates wider feet without being too sloppy. I have some durability concerns but it's a very comfortable shoe
I don't really understand it either Paul? I think it's because they've done away with all the Evo shoes, no Jawz or Mafate either. I had lots of friends who ran in the Evo Speedgoat and they loved that shoe. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure I just did course recce for my first local 50k race. Tried the Ultraglide once more but I'm 99% sure I'll be opting for my old EVO Speedgoat for this race. Then it has to retire ..
Hello Lloyd You did a comparison between Inov-8 Trailfly and Speedgoat 4 a while back. Where the Inov-8 came out on top. How do they compare today with the new Speedgoat 5? (And as always yet another great video) 😀👍🏼
Hi Anders, glad you enjoyed it 😊 It would be pretty close between the two but I think the new Speedgoat 5 would probably come out on top because it's a lot lighter than the Inov-8. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
I've been using the SG for a good few years but I've found that the build quality on the SP5 is poor and the shoes split the material from the sole. I love the cushion on the hoka but had enough of them falling apart what alternative would you recommend??
Nice looking shoe, but not sure the laces would work for me. Shame, as I'm after something with a lot of cushioning for an Ultra later this year. I've heard that on the Ultra Glide the cushioning squishes down after 50+ miles so loses a lot of its plushness. Have you considered a review of the New Balance Hierro v7? It's meant to be a very good shoe, lighter than the v6, bigger lugs than its predecessor too, so could be a bit of a hidden gem?!
The new V7 definitely looks like an improvement compared to the previous models Jake, I'll see what I can do about a review 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks James, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'd say it's a little bit narrower than the 4's, I think that's why it works better for my foot shape. I know you like width in your shoes so I'd definitely go for the wide option 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure do you think Hoka will make a proper wide version of this shoe? All other wide Hoka’s have the same last just more material on top to accommodate more foot volume
@@marccastle8249 You're right Marc. Width fit Hokas aren't really any wider, just more volume 🤔 I'm not sure what they are doing with the 5's but I should imagine it would be the same thing. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Noooo, short tongue! I sent the Rincon 3 back because of that. Do you feel the knot of the laces apply pressure into the angle between your shin and foot?
I'm not a fan of a short tounge either Andrew but it's actually been fine. I'd say if you use a runners knot it cause issues 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Love running in the SG5's but my only issue is the wear on the luggs, I've worn some of then down to nothing and only run 85km in them. Not sure if it's the durability of the sole of the type of trails I run on which are hard and dry as I am in Perth Western Australia and it's super hot here at the moment.
If you are running on lots of hard compact trails it can wear down the Vibram megagrip rubber quicker unfortunately 😔 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I noticed while you were tightening the laces that you seem to have a relatively low instep/narrow feet and probably are about my sizes (6'1" - 160lbs - US11). My usual complaint about shoes is the latest trend to make forefoot fit more and more "comfortable" in terms of width and toebox volume, often nullifies even the best midfoot lockdown on technical trails. What's your take ?
Your right Massimo, I've got quite a shallow, narrow foot so it can be hard to get a good lock down in some shoes. I totally agree that it seems like shoe brands are catering for wider/deeper foot shapes these days. It can be hard to find a good fit if your foot shape is narrow and shallow 👍 I tend to find Saucony and Salomon are pretty good for that kind of foot shape. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I don't like the runners knot, it doesn't work for me Junrie. Unfortunately I find it uncomfortable across the top of my foot. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏😊
Thanks Aj, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The Speedgoat definitely has a softer, deeper midsole but I think the outsole on the Parkclaw will hold up to the road miles a bit better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
I am so torn between these and the peregrine 12. Im a hiker. I hike in muddy, wet conditions, hike over boulders and wet rocks. also doing some river crossing. Can you give some inputs on which shoes to buy? As per experience trail runners are much better option than hike shoes.
It comes down to the level of cushioning you like Laxus 🤔 If you get on better with deep soft cushioning then the Speedgoat would work well. If you'd prefer to ferl the good more when it comes to technical trails then the Peregrine woukd be the shoe. The outsole is very good on both shoes but the Peregrine is a bit better in the deep, boggy mud 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure this really helped me! Even tho i don’t trail run i watched a lot of your videos 😅 i love your content and the way you breakdown the shoes you’re reviewing. Keep it up! Thank you so much.
It can be used in winter and I know a lot of runners that do use the Speedgoat all year round. It can struggle a bit traction wise in deep mud though 👍 Hope this helps Aj and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thank You for your input and surely you have helped me alot. I plan to be in an area where winterlike conditions will be present and I plan to do some light trail runs. I also purchased the Xodus Ultra Shield just in case along with the Ride 15 Shield.
I wish these had a less stupid foot shape. They're cramped in the toe area, and too wide/high volume in the midefoot, otherwise they could have been a certain go-to shoe for so much running. If they're advertised as a long-distance running shoe, there HAS to be room for toes to splay more.
The speed goat 5 has been slow here in the US to get out to stores, with the more l read of other people's reviews My excitement to get a pair on is Dwaining. More and more people are talking about how the shoe is rubbing against their ankle . That seems to be the biggest issue with the shoe. Have you heard anything about this problem?
@@skout5716 maybe this is a crazy idea, but maybe they ,could do a recall or fix for free anyone that was having this problem, otherwise maybe a shoe repair place could fix them
I haven't had any issues with the ankle collar yet Phil? It actually feels pretty soft to me. I've had issues with ankle collars being to stiff in shoes before but the SG5's seem ok to me 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I haven't run in the new Hierro v7 so it's impossible to say but the Speedgoat 5 is obviously very cushioned! 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
It depends what you need to use the shoe for Simon. The Parkclaws are going to hold up to road milage a bit better than the Speedgoats because the rubber on the outsole is a bit more durable. But the Speedgoats are a bit softer when it comes to cushioning so they handle the long stuff a bit better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I have the Ultra Trail Fly 300 Max.... for my ultra. just wanted something else to try as I have an Innov8 discount voucher burning a hole in my pocket. I just loved my previous Speedgoats too !
I did. But so far not a deal breaker. A bit like my first few runs in the inov-8 TU G270. Then I have loved the shoes. I have only 30km in moderately technical terrain in the SG5. I am sick in bed and cannot wait to be fit again to put these back on the trails.
No issue with the ankle collar at all so far. First run, straight out the box was 14 miles and they felt comfortable. I have had ankle issues with some others shoes, the adidas Agravic Ultra and the Inov-8 Terraultra but not in the SG 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
I had issues with the ankle collar in the Terraultras as well Antoine but not in the SG5'S 🤔 Hope you are feeling better soon! Go steady and thanks for watching 🙏
I run in hoka and I have notice that the never version look cheaply made and the foam/rubber soles are not has hardly and as a whole not as well made as early models lighter means cutting Cost
I've run in every model of Speedgoats Sean and some of the early models were terrible for durability. The original Speedgoat and the SG2's had lots of durability issues and you were lucky if you got 200 miles out of them. My pair of SG5'S are holding up well at the moment so I'm not sure what you mean 🤔
@@Run4Adventure I run in stinson currently in atr 6, my first version was the original I still have those and show very little wear, only issue are tight to get on used a shoe horn due to the tough being attached , I then had 3,4,and 5 the the 3 and 4 didn't last as long changed up after 300 mils as they started to wear on soul's and tops stone gard area, the 5 I junked after 200 miles souls came away the current 6 I ran in until covid started and I caught that, still trying to get back into running so only doing low mileage currently 5 to 10k so wear is not high, I have also ran in the torrent 1 prior to lock down that did 200 to 300 ish but very narrow uncomfortable to run in and wear was heavy on soul lugs. I have also used cliftons the older version lasted longer than the newer version but much better than the stinson.
I haven't had any issues with the heel at all so far Joe? 🤔 I run a lot on the sand dunes near me and even on there I didn't have a problem. Sorry to hear its not working for you 😕 Thanks for watching 🙏
So disappointed with this shoe. It gives zero grip on surfaces that are even slightly wet or sandy. If you running on technical trails like me, please avoid the speedgoat 5.
Hi there, I have tested out the Altra Mont Blanc and there's a full in-depth review on the channel 👍 The review is worth watching if you are thinking of buying a pair because I wasn't impressed! 😕 Thanks for watching 🙏
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The best traction of any shoes I have ever worn. Simply amazing
I love the outsole on the Speedgoats as well, brilliant on wet and dry rocky trails! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review Loyd. Agree with you on the lacing as everything has to be pulled through so much to get a good fit over the top of the foot. I've done 26 miles in mine so far and I do really like them. I think I mentioned the tongue issue after the first run of 16 miles. It kept sliding down meaning the lace was on my foot. I tried a different way of lacing them up today and not one issue at all to report. Basically I took the lace through the tongue section 3 times while using the last eyelet. Sounds a bit overkill but it worked perfectly. I put a vid up earlier trying to show it. I'll be using them on the Howgills trail marathon in May and on the Lakeland 50 in July.
I'm enjoying them so far and I thinks it's going to be my go to shoe for distance. Glad you got your tounge issues sorted out 👍
Thanks for watching and best of luck with your up and coming races 🙏
Good evenning Run4adventure and all the runners. Fabolous as ever. Here is my like. A nice week for everyone. 🌞🏃♂️⛰
Thanks Manuel 😊
Great support as ever! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Another fantastic and practical review 👌
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Great review video, managed to get a pair to replace my SG4's. I absolutely love them, got a few longer runs in and no issues. These will be my shoes for the South West Traverse this year.
Thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed the video. The SG5's are a good choice for the South West Traverse 👍
Glad you're enjoying your shoes and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Great review!! I've been a big fan of the speedgoat 4 and I still luv um! I was a little reluctant on trying on a pair of the 5's since at the time they didn't come in a wide. I finally got a chance to try a pair of 5's on and was sold!!! First thing I did was swap out the 5's laces with the SG4 laces. Not sure what Hoka was thinking with the new laces...terrible!!! I'm on my 4th grand canyon rim-to-rim crossing this year and the 5's seem to be able to take the punishment!
One of the shoes that created more expectation for this year and seems not disappoiting. It's on my list, so maybe later in the year I will get a pair. SG3 got me hooked :)
The 3's were a brilliant shoe Javier! I'd say the 5's are good but not quite as good as the Speedgoat 3. I've been getting a lot of miles in them lately and I'm enjoying the way they feel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great review 👏 thanks mate. 👍
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 🙏🙂
Great honest review, probably not for me with the lack of overlays and lug depth. I still feel, from witnessing running buddies experience's, there's a mill or 2 missing off the lugs to transition into a dependable shoe in the wetter and colder hilly regions of the world. Look forward to the future reviews 👍.
Thanks Gavin, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. It's tricky when it comes to lug depth on a trail shoe that's designed to run on all types of terrain. If you put a deeper lug on the outsole it can sometimes effect how the shoe grips on other surfaces in a negative way. It can also wear down a lot quicker if you are crossing over to tarmac. When you are running on a big mix of terrain in lots of different weather conditions, it's hard to find a trail shoe that will grip everything perfectly 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I am using them for hiking and I love it
That's great to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying your shoes 😁
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the review. I agree with you on the midfoot lockdown. FIrst I thought it is just me but glad to hear it ´s not. That is the weak point + the tounge thickness/ length
I've managed to sort out the lickdown now and it's a lot better. Totally agree with you on the tounge, a bit more padding and lenght would have been nice! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Torsten, its really appreciated 🙏😊
I agree with pretty much all of this, Loyd. It's a shame you didn't try the EVO, I think it may possibly have the edge over the SG5. The Matryx upper was excellent, and the lacing was perfect. With that said, the SG5 is still fantastic, but I am intrigued to see how much of an issue the lacing is going to cause over the long-term. It seems like a massive oversight on Hoka's part.
The Evo was definitely a very much loved shoe in the trail community! I had a lot of friends who ran in it and raved about how good it was. I'm happy with the 5's but I still think the 3's where a bit better and that's the platform the Evo used. It's going to be interesting to see how they hold up over time when it comes to the laces and durability 🤔
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure what about the foothold SG3 vs SG5 ? More forgiving upper is good usually, but only up to a certain extend after my point of view...
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I preferred the foot hold in the SG3's, it definitely fitted my footshape better. It's not bad in the SG5'S but the 3's were slightly more fitted 👍
Oh also I wanted to thank you for your video... Your tips to your first 50k was amazing to prepare for my first 50k. Love your videos! I want to run in Cornwall now!
Thanks Betty, that's very kind. I'm really glad you enjoyed our video and you found it helpful 👍
We'll done on your first 50k and thanks for taking the time to comment it's really appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I am now looking at more of your videos to prepare for my first 100k. Thank you again
Good review mate. If I hadn't managed to pick up some Evo Speedgoat I'd be considering these for the South West Traverse.
You were very lucky to find those Stu! The Speedgoat is a really good shoe for the Traverse 👍
Thanks for watching and see you in Cornwall soon! 🙏😊
Great vid as always pal, would love to see a comparison of these with the new Parkclaw you're testing, as they both seem to fit the bill for comfort and summer harder trails. Keep the vids coming , awesome channel !!!!!
Thanks Steve, really glad you enjoyed the video. I'll see what I can do about a comparison video, watch this space 😊
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I still ❤️ my speedgoat 5. Would say it is comparable to Asics Fuji Lite 2 except the latter has better outsole traction, wear resistance and flexibility than Vibram imo. Speedgoat has so much foam that the jagged rocks cut the sole over time. I've slipped once in the Speedgoat but never in Fuji Lite 2 which i have owned for longer. Overall these 2 pairs are way more superior than big brands Salomon and Timberland that you'll not want another in other brands again.
I've heard good think about the Asics Fuji Lite 2 👍
I'll have to try and get hold of some to test on the channel. Timberland, do they make running shoes? 🤔
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I like the Fuji Lite² even if they feel odd, like taking a pair of tiny slippers onto the rocks'n'roots 😱 ...and surprisingly they deliver!
Now, try the Fuji Speed...
...even more tiny slippers with boost 😎
Hi, Great video as always.
Do you pick this over the xodus ultra of Saucony? For training and long runs around 15-20km?
Definitely not, I’d go for the Xodus Ultra ever time 👍🙂
Sounds very promising from your review. I’ve got to get to my local running shop to get a pair on foot. Past versions have been a little pinched in the toe hoping for this one is a bit more accommodating
I wouldn't say it's a wide shoe Greg but the upper is quite soft. I'd definitely try them on if you've had issues with previous versions 👍
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Great review! Maybe you should try the runners knot, it has helped me get a good lockdown
I'm really not a fan of the runners knot it doesn't work for me. I just find it causes issue for the top of my foot, especially when there's a thin tounge with no padding 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review as always Loyd, just wondering how the uppers are holding out? I have Cascadia 16 which have split on both side at the same point (others I run with have the same issue in the same place) 300 miles in them so not too bad. I replaced them with Peregrine 12's and the uppers are starting to go on these, at the flex points (only 200 miles). Not good when you spend the money for these and the mid sole and sole are like new. Never run in Hoka before but really interested
I'm glad you didn't like the fit coz I see it's accommodating and volume offers a lot for us wide foot. 💪
I wouldn't say it's a wide shoe Ruel but it does have a bit more width and depth than the Speedgoat 3 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Great shoe. Following you review I rush out and bought a pair and Ran 25 K finding that I cannot wear them again as they are way to tight for my wide feet. Heeeeelp what similar shoe can I buy for my clown wide fee?
Hi Loyd
Great video.
Have you tested the altra Mont Blanc yet? Apparently it similar to the SG5? Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Cheers
Loyd … did you ever run in the Evo Speedgoat? I’ve heard the SG 5 is comparable (but not as light). Thought?? Great review 👍🏼👟👟
Unfortunately I never run the Evo Speedgoat, I had quite a few friend that had them and raved about them! The Evo was definitely a bit lighter but having not run in them it's hard to say 🤔
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Keep in mind that you can put a foam pad between the laces and tongue to tighten the shoe if/when they expand over time.
I'm not a lover of adding things to shoes, I think it can cause other issues but I'll keep it in mind 👍
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Hopefully the durability has been looked at.. I grinded my last 2 pairs of 4 after 2 months...
I hope so Betty 🤞
The Speedgoat 3's were super solid and I got good miles out of every pair! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Thanks for the review,
SP's have been hard for me because of a slightly wide foot, the 3's did the best, so glad to hear its more in line.
The 3's were a really good shoe for me, I'd say the 5's are still a little bit wider Dustin. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Good to see the Speedgoat back performing again.
How does it compare to the Ultraglide?
Good question I was thinking the same
The speedgoat has a wider fit, more cushion, and more aggressive lugs. The Salomon is lighter, more nimble, and for a narrower midfoot.
@@paddywiggle That would make it a very different shoe to all previous Speedgoats. I would say the Ultraglide is actually slightly roomier in the toe box than all Speedgoats up to this one
Paddy has got it spot on! The Speedgoat does have a little bit more room in the toe box but the Ultra Glide definitely locks down around the midfoot better. Outsole grip is better on the Speedgoats but the Ultra Glide feels a bit more connected and nimble on technical terrain 👍
Hope this helps Dean, thanks for watching 🙏
@@Predazord007yes that's the case. It's the first speedgoat I can wear without feeling it's too cramped in the toe box. There's a bit of give in the upper such that it accommodates wider feet without being too sloppy. I have some durability concerns but it's a very comfortable shoe
The best ever Speedgoat still is the Evo can’t understand why we don’t see a new version of it
I don't really understand it either Paul? I think it's because they've done away with all the Evo shoes, no Jawz or Mafate either. I had lots of friends who ran in the Evo Speedgoat and they loved that shoe.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
👍🏻 I will 99.999% use this one for the TDS yep. My EVO speedgoat's are too used by then 🤣
I think I'll be using it there to, see you on the start line! I hope training is going well and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I just did course recce for my first local 50k race. Tried the Ultraglide once more but I'm 99% sure I'll be opting for my old EVO Speedgoat for this race. Then it has to retire ..
Hello Lloyd
You did a comparison between Inov-8 Trailfly and Speedgoat 4 a while back. Where the Inov-8 came out on top.
How do they compare today with the new Speedgoat 5?
(And as always yet another great video) 😀👍🏼
Hi Anders, glad you enjoyed it 😊
It would be pretty close between the two but I think the new Speedgoat 5 would probably come out on top because it's a lot lighter than the Inov-8. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thanks 🙏 Would SG5 also beat Ultraglide as a shoe for ultras?
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I actually really like both shoes and I'd have no issues running an Ultra in either of them Anders 👍
Just got these today 😜
Hope you enjoy them and thanks for watching the channel Leo 🙏😊
I've been using the SG for a good few years but I've found that the build quality on the SP5 is poor and the shoes split the material from the sole. I love the cushion on the hoka but had enough of them falling apart what alternative would you recommend??
How are they for stability. Dodgy ankle here that just keeps coming back (regardless of physio work)
Thanks for the review! If I use a us 9 in Clifton and Mach 4, would you suggest a 9 or 9.5 for the SG5?
I use same size in Mach as in SG5. Fits great.
I'd say both the Clifton and the Mach size up small so I'd stay with your normal size 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Nice looking shoe, but not sure the laces would work for me. Shame, as I'm after something with a lot of cushioning for an Ultra later this year. I've heard that on the Ultra Glide the cushioning squishes down after 50+ miles so loses a lot of its plushness. Have you considered a review of the New Balance Hierro v7? It's meant to be a very good shoe, lighter than the v6, bigger lugs than its predecessor too, so could be a bit of a hidden gem?!
The new V7 definitely looks like an improvement compared to the previous models Jake, I'll see what I can do about a review 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great review … very intrigued with this one - may have to go for the wide option . Would you say it’s the same width as the 4?
Thanks James, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'd say it's a little bit narrower than the 4's, I think that's why it works better for my foot shape. I know you like width in your shoes so I'd definitely go for the wide option 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure cool thanks
@@Run4Adventure do you think Hoka will make a proper wide version of this shoe? All other wide Hoka’s have the same last just more material on top to accommodate more foot volume
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You're right Marc. Width fit Hokas aren't really any wider, just more volume 🤔
I'm not sure what they are doing with the 5's but I should imagine it would be the same thing. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Noooo, short tongue! I sent the Rincon 3 back because of that. Do you feel the knot of the laces apply pressure into the angle between your shin and foot?
I'm not a fan of a short tounge either Andrew but it's actually been fine. I'd say if you use a runners knot it cause issues 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's appreciated 🙏
Love running in the SG5's but my only issue is the wear on the luggs, I've worn some of then down to nothing and only run 85km in them. Not sure if it's the durability of the sole of the type of trails I run on which are hard and dry as I am in Perth Western Australia and it's super hot here at the moment.
If you are running on lots of hard compact trails it can wear down the Vibram megagrip rubber quicker unfortunately 😔
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure any ideas for shoes you have reviewed that would wear better on hard trails??
can't wait to be released here in PH!!! or in NZ!! they said MAY 2022!!
It's a good version Andrew, hope you enjoy them and thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure yeah good content btw!
@@AndrewficationGaming Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying the channel 😊
Seriously considered this but the Scarpa Spin Infinity had similar specs and a better fit for me.
Awesome, glad you found a shoe that works for you David 👍
I've not run in a Scarpa shoe before but I'm hearing good things, thanks for watching 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Scarpa are doing some interesting things, I can recommend the Ribelle Run also.🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
I noticed while you were tightening the laces that you seem to have a relatively low instep/narrow feet and probably are about my sizes (6'1" - 160lbs - US11). My usual complaint about shoes is the latest trend to make forefoot fit more and more "comfortable" in terms of width and toebox volume, often nullifies even the best midfoot lockdown on technical trails. What's your take ?
Your right Massimo, I've got quite a shallow, narrow foot so it can be hard to get a good lock down in some shoes. I totally agree that it seems like shoe brands are catering for wider/deeper foot shapes these days. It can be hard to find a good fit if your foot shape is narrow and shallow 👍
I tend to find Saucony and Salomon are pretty good for that kind of foot shape. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
🙏 Thanks
Have you tried runner's knot? See if the lockdown is better than not using runner's know.
I don't like the runners knot, it doesn't work for me Junrie. Unfortunately I find it uncomfortable across the top of my foot. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏😊
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Thanks for such a great review of the SG5’s, I would wonder how these would hold up against the Parkclaw 280.
Thanks Aj, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. The Speedgoat definitely has a softer, deeper midsole but I think the outsole on the Parkclaw will hold up to the road miles a bit better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏😊
I am so torn between these and the peregrine 12. Im a hiker. I hike in muddy, wet conditions, hike over boulders and wet rocks. also doing some river crossing. Can you give some inputs on which shoes to buy? As per experience trail runners are much better option than hike shoes.
It comes down to the level of cushioning you like Laxus 🤔
If you get on better with deep soft cushioning then the Speedgoat would work well. If you'd prefer to ferl the good more when it comes to technical trails then the Peregrine woukd be the shoe. The outsole is very good on both shoes but the Peregrine is a bit better in the deep, boggy mud 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure this really helped me! Even tho i don’t trail run i watched a lot of your videos 😅 i love your content and the way you breakdown the shoes you’re reviewing. Keep it up! Thank you so much.
Any updates on it as far as durability?
Greetings Lloyd, do you think the SG5's can be used for winter running?
It can be used in winter and I know a lot of runners that do use the Speedgoat all year round. It can struggle a bit traction wise in deep mud though 👍
Hope this helps Aj and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure Thank You for your input and surely you have helped me alot. I plan to be in an area where winterlike conditions will be present and I plan to do some light trail runs. I also purchased the Xodus Ultra Shield just in case along with the Ride 15 Shield.
Are these good for hiking and walking trails along with running them?
They'd definitely work for hiking and walking trails 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
I wish these had a less stupid foot shape. They're cramped in the toe area, and too wide/high volume in the midefoot, otherwise they could have been a certain go-to shoe for so much running.
If they're advertised as a long-distance running shoe, there HAS to be room for toes to splay more.
The speed goat 5 has been slow here in the US to get out to stores, with the more l read of other people's reviews My excitement to get a pair on is Dwaining. More and more people are talking about how the shoe is rubbing against their ankle . That seems to be the biggest issue with the shoe. Have you heard anything about this problem?
@@skout5716 It sure seems like they didn't sufficiently test these shoes out, you think they would have figured that out by now.
@@skout5716 maybe this is a crazy idea, but maybe they ,could do a recall or fix for free anyone that was having this problem, otherwise maybe a shoe repair place could fix them
I haven't had any issues with the ankle collar yet Phil? It actually feels pretty soft to me. I've had issues with ankle collars being to stiff in shoes before but the SG5's seem ok to me 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
does it have wifi or bluetooth?
Both 😂
How do these compare to the New Balance Fresh Foam X Hierro v7 for cushyness on feet?
I haven't run in the new Hierro v7 so it's impossible to say but the Speedgoat 5 is obviously very cushioned! 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Which one is more comfortable for hiking on rocky teren,Hoka 5 or vective infinity?
I'd say the Speedgoat 5's are much more comfortable shoe and it has a better outsole 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
@@Run4Adventure thank you
i bought them and it hurts me knee when walking in them
Have you ever used Hoka shoes before? 🤔
Innov8 Parkclaw or these Loyd ? 😀
It depends what you need to use the shoe for Simon. The Parkclaws are going to hold up to road milage a bit better than the Speedgoats because the rubber on the outsole is a bit more durable. But the Speedgoats are a bit softer when it comes to cushioning so they handle the long stuff a bit better. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@@Run4Adventure I have the Ultra Trail Fly 300 Max.... for my ultra. just wanted something else to try as I have an Innov8 discount voucher burning a hole in my pocket. I just loved my previous Speedgoats too !
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The Parkclaw does feel quite similar to the Trailfly but you definitely notice the fact it's a lot lighter 👍
@@Run4Adventure DEALT !
i've came across an opinion that the collar is a bit too high and it can bruise your ankles - did you notice anything like that in your case?
I did. But so far not a deal breaker. A bit like my first few runs in the inov-8 TU G270. Then I have loved the shoes. I have only 30km in moderately technical terrain in the SG5. I am sick in bed and cannot wait to be fit again to put these back on the trails.
@@antoinedaina355 get well. Hope your feeling good soon and back on the trails.
Did for me and I returned them sadly. Switched to the Ultra Glide
No issue with the ankle collar at all so far. First run, straight out the box was 14 miles and they felt comfortable. I have had ankle issues with some others shoes, the adidas Agravic Ultra and the Inov-8 Terraultra but not in the SG 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel it's really appreciated 🙏😊
I had issues with the ankle collar in the Terraultras as well Antoine but not in the SG5'S 🤔
Hope you are feeling better soon! Go steady and thanks for watching 🙏
I run in hoka and I have notice that the never version look cheaply made and the foam/rubber soles are not has hardly and as a whole not as well made as early models lighter means cutting Cost
I've run in every model of Speedgoats Sean and some of the early models were terrible for durability. The original Speedgoat and the SG2's had lots of durability issues and you were lucky if you got 200 miles out of them. My pair of SG5'S are holding up well at the moment so I'm not sure what you mean 🤔
@@Run4Adventure I run in stinson currently in atr 6, my first version was the original I still have those and show very little wear, only issue are tight to get on used a shoe horn due to the tough being attached , I then had 3,4,and 5 the the 3 and 4 didn't last as long changed up after 300 mils as they started to wear on soul's and tops stone gard area, the 5 I junked after 200 miles souls came away the current 6 I ran in until covid started and I caught that, still trying to get back into running so only doing low mileage currently 5 to 10k so wear is not high, I have also ran in the torrent 1 prior to lock down that did 200 to 300 ish but very narrow uncomfortable to run in and wear was heavy on soul lugs. I have also used cliftons the older version lasted longer than the newer version but much better than the stinson.
Which size did you wear in the video?
I did say in the video I was wearing a UK 10 Riccardo 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Thank you
Du those kum in gortex bloke
Yes you can get a GTX version of the Speedgoat. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
@Run4Adventure bloke which ist mas cush. Goats 🐐 or new bal....x foam trail v3
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Thanks for watching 🙏😊
So much crap in my shoes… that heel counter is a fail.
I haven't had any issues with the heel at all so far Joe? 🤔
I run a lot on the sand dunes near me and even on there I didn't have a problem. Sorry to hear its not working for you 😕
Thanks for watching 🙏
So disappointed with this shoe. It gives zero grip on surfaces that are even slightly wet or sandy. If you running on technical trails like me, please avoid the speedgoat 5.
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Hi Loyd. How does the width on these compare to the 4?
I think the 5's are just slightly narrower than the 4's, that's why it works better for my foot shape 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Hi Loyd
Great video.
Have you tested the altra Mont Blanc yet? Apparently it similar to the SG5? Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Cheers
Hi there,
I have tested out the Altra Mont Blanc and there's a full in-depth review on the channel 👍
The review is worth watching if you are thinking of buying a pair because I wasn't impressed! 😕
Thanks for watching 🙏