Things Are Not Looking Good For Jakob Ingebrigtsen
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Jakob Ingebrigtsen has some serious competition.
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Of course his Olympic record from Tokyo still stands 🙄 it can’t be broken until the subsequent Olympics
I was just gonna say this lol
I don't know why I laughed so hard at this 😂😂. It's like you're tired of his BS
TRP also stated at 1:24 that this win ‘was one of the big highlights of his career’ but this Olympic 1500m gold was THE highlight of his athletic career so far.
Damn with attitude he said that😂
does he chatgpt his scripts lol
"And this record still stands today". from the 2021 Olympics 😂
Yeah, this narrator is often a joke with all the crap he says trying to make accomplishments seem even more grand than they already are.
@firelordplayz he's still the best running youtuber
@@k3556io😢
Chat gpt
Noticed that too... dumb ...
It's impressive that the Olympic record still stands, 3 years after... wait that was the last time that a 1500 was run n the Olympics
No one has ran faster since. Maybe that was what he meant to say.
1:19 "and this record still stands today". Lmao
Like dawg you can't be that stupid
😂😂😂
I think he meant that no one has ran faster in any race.
A clumsy way of saying it.
1:20 "and this record still stands today" - well obviously!!! 🤣
Lmao I cringed at that too
I think he meant to say that no one has ran faster since.
Dang, I didn’t realize how loaded the 1500m, or the middle distance class was this year!
Whites are dominating Distance Running as well as NBA Basketball.
It’s gonna be a fast race
Yeah all middle distance is going to be crazy for the next 6ish years for sure
Australia currently has 10 3.29-3.34 runners, and that's likely to increase this weekend. The event here is bursting with talent, just ask Jake Wightman.
Especially the woman.@@lordofskag
Can you make an actual video addressing what’s known about his injuries and what he’s stated in more depth?
1:14; Hasn't been another Olympics for Jakob's Olympic Record to be broken :) 3 consecutive Olympic 400m Gold Medals (M&W) is up there too re level of difficulty!
I know that's like saying Tola's New York Marathon course record still stands today
olympics are usually tactical there is rarely an attempt on the record
Thank you for all your hard work. And for actually narrating your track and field videos
I'm so glad you included Cole, Kevin! Hoping for a great season for him.
I think you should not forget George Mills, as he already ran a sub 13 and a sub 3:50 indoors, taking down world class competition. He has been an 800m runner all his youth so you can safely count on his speed and finishing kick.
This video is so prophetic after the Olympics 1,500
Took him down a few notches, but he crushed it on 5000 today.
its gonna be difficult for any of them. Not sure why we single out that point
Cole’s US indoor 1500 title was basically a carbon copy of his 2021 indoor NCAA mile win
Honestly same level of competition none of the big faces in US mile were there
Seing Eliud Kipchoge in the top 10 list for the indoor two mile at 6:13 is craaaazy.
Yeah he beat Bekele and Farah in an indoor 2 mile IIRC
Thought the same thing!
Dude has relentless range!
Did you not see Grant Fishers time mate? 5:03!
no one cares about 2 miles, really....
It will NOT be especially difficult for Jakob, it will be difficult for all of them.
I still like Jakob. He brings much excitement to the sport. I hope he wins the 1500 in Paris, but man, the competition is absolutely brutal.
Hes gonna win
He is definitely the benchmark but who would have predicted losses for him at the past two worlds. After the women's 4 X 400 at the last worlds. This 1500 showdown. Bol and McLaughlin showdown. World athletics is exciting. Can't wait.
Grant Fisher with 5:03 two mile, what a beast!
Sir Peter Snell retired and went on to tertiary education while still at his peak and wasn't available for 1968.
He did back to back in the 800 in 60 and then 64 only racing the 1500 in 1964.
He was a weapon with a resting heart rate in the 30's helped by a much bigger heart than the average man.
If you're interested in his development, you can't underestimate the inspirational training ability of Arthur Lydiard who basically invented modern training methods. He was another Kiwi.
He probably inspired Sir Peter in his career choice as well, because Sir Peter went on to be a pioneer in sports medicine, I believe.
Hi Dave. Sadly, the great runners of the 60's in middle distance encountered the financial situation that others today don't face. (The World Record holders and Olympic Gold medalists, I'm talking about) The need to earn a living! Guys like the great Aussie Herb Elliot, and New Zealand's Peter Snell in the 1500m (just to use them as examples) did not make enough money in the Amateur Athletics world. I spoke to Peter Snell in 1968 as he was a guest compare at a Track meet in Christchurch, New Zealand. I was competing in the 800m and tried to get an entry in the 1500m where Kip Keino was competing. "Naw", they said. "Piss off. You aren't fast enough!" (NB I got 3rd in the 800m. lol) Well, I paraphrase but you get the point. I asked Snell why he didn't keep going and he said basically he had a young family and needed to support them financially. There was no real prize money and no real sponsorship. Same thing with Herb Elliot, UNDEFEATED at senior level, at either 1 mile or 1500m and was the world record holder and Olympic Gold Medal winner, retired at age 22. I think. He then went the Oxford University to study to develop his career.
@@johnwilson5743Thanks John for enlightening us with those comments. What a great golden era it was for NZ middle distance running.
Cheers AK, NZ.
Sucks because he’s clearly the fastest athlete in the 1500 by far but championship races aren’t about who is the fastest. I think regardless of if he wins the Olympic 1500, if he breaks the world record then there will be few people who will be able to come close to it for years to come. You say Neguse and Kejelcha were close, but Jakob won the races while leading them the entire time. The gravity of his performance was certainly leagues above the other athletes. He’s a generational talent, and you have to wonder if any of these athletes would be running as fast if not for the work he puts in.
If you're focused on that mile race last fall in Eugene, Jakob didn't lead that until the last lap. Nuguse was up near the front behind the pacers almost the whole time, and he followed Jakob as he went by with a little less than 400m to go. Both running 3:43 and only a few tenths separated them at the finish, I'd call them 'even' in ability.
Championships are about who are the fastest on the day
@@crosslink1493jakob is still much faster lilbro
So you’re saying nuguse or kejelcha aren’t generational talents either?
But he can *make* it about who’s the fastest if he wanted to. There is literally no reason for him to play into everyone else’s strengths when he could just drop them. It makes you wonder if he is actually capable of 3:27 or better after rounds, or without pacers/lights, or if he is scared of blowing up late in the race and so sticks to the status quo. He doesn’t need to make the race tactical if he’s confident he can drop a fast time in the final.
It's definitely not going to be easy for Jakob. Even without his difficult start to the season, championship 1500m races are not the ideal environment for his ability set. I firmly believe that Jakob would be able to run a faster 1500m than anyone, if he has sufficient preparation, but he would need to not be at the front of the pack for most of the race for that to happen and it would need a very fast, even pace. Without pacers involved that is not likely to happen in any championship. The best way I can see for him to run the Olympic final is to take it out so fast that no-one wants to go with and then hope he can hang on. There is a chance in that scenario that the pack let him get too far ahead and don't have time to catch him, especially if no-one else wants to be at the front of the chasing pack. The problem is that there are runners like McSweyn, who prefer to be at the front of a fast moving pack, so it's unlikely that the pack would be moving at a more tactical pace.
This is kind of what Jakob has been doing in the past two WC finals, but it has not been fast enough to drop everyone. It would need to be almost suicidally fast and the problem there is that it's likely to be suicidal.
He doesn't necessarily need to go out at a blistering pace, but he needs to pick up the pace substantially instead of trying to kick the last 200m. If you look at his performance in Tokyo, he negatives split his 1500m with each lap getting progressively faster. Adopting this type of model in all of his 1500m races renders him as almost unbeatable.
Yes hes gonna win so much that you dont ever will se 1500m again josh kerr is ending up in 5 if hes Lucky
The problem is that he's let the third lap dawdle enough to let the other runners catch their breath. He needs to hammer the third lap to burn the kick out of everyone else. But he's also making things harder for himself my constantly doing the 1500/5000 double. He has to keep his legs fresh enough for the 5000 semi the following day while everyone else can empty the tank.
@@RUNISFAST I hate to break it to you, but Josh Kerr recently won a gold in the more recent 3k race, as well as running 8 flat for the indoor 2 mile, so Josh Kerr is looking to be pretty scary.
@@Bweyg jakob would shit on him in that race hes not scary
Sleeper pick Cameron Meyers is definitely in the conversation as well
Crazy you can even say that sentence and it kinda makes sense.
Exactly @@lukecarroll19. He is unbelievable.
Brilliant very young athlete though he is, 2024 will be too soon for him at 1500m. More like 2028. Why? Though he has amazing 1500m/1 mile times, his 800m times are comparatively slower than the guys he's racing against.
Nah, a 3:33 guy will not win Olympic gold this year, sorry. It will take a 3:28 ability at bare minimum.
Meyers time will come but he can’t hang with the sub 3:30 guys just yet.
I mean the answer to the question "When was the last time an Olympic Champion when on to successfully defend their title" was Tokyo 2021 when Kipyegon did it
more than just him did it in 2021
the question was about the men's 1500m, so he was right
@@TomHenksYT Should've specified then🤷♀
@@Mhochul he did. Listen again.
I think there should also be a focus on tactics. Jakob's technique (as exemplified in the European Championship) of starting from the back should be considered. Of course, he avoids the early calamity of a fall. Unfortunately, passing the other runners over the next couple of laps, makes him run approximately 5-10 yards more per quarter. This is draining when a win is achieved at the margin of performance. A better approach might be an early lead and then allowing someone to take the lead by pacing too slowly. He could then comfortably do a "Kerr" or "Whiteman" by passing in the last 200m. Nuguse is clearly the one to beat in Paris. Ethiopian DNA!, and calm, almost non-chalant demeanor. The attention is not on Nuguse. The pre-olympic spotlight is draining and will be clearly focused on Josh and Jakob.
At 6:12 we see something amazing! Why are we not talking about Grant Fisher's time of 5:03!?
Geordie Beamish is a candidate too after his splendid last 50 meters sprint at the indoors
Your content is good, this is a really good breakdown of the early Olympic year form and what it might mean,so why do you need these misleading trashy click bait style titles? I was expecting an update on his injury, comeback etc. Surely a different way to frame several people coming into contention in Olympic year, something Jakob himself would surely expect?
Yeah this channel frustrates me - he works really hard, and brings a lot of excellent content, and he gets stuff out very very quickly to Lee everyone up to date, but his clickbaity titles shows a lack of respect for the audience.
@@Ineddiblehulk yeah, particularly when the subject is Jakob I've noticed.
"You won't believe the titles. They're insane." TRP@@Ineddiblehulk
What do the different colors of jerseys mean? Athletes from many different countries wear similar jerseys, which do not seem related to any product endorsement.
At the 2:09 mark, Jacob can be seen one of the now familiar “dotted striped” jerseys. Most athletes wear blue jerseys. One athlete can be seen wearing a jersey patterned in the opposite direction.
Jacob is wearing a black one, which I think means he is either the world record holder or defending champion in this event.
If you have not already done so, can you please do a video explaining the jersey colors and patterns?
I got you. Nike is responsible for those blue jerseys and the black ones. Every year, Nike gives their pro athletes 3 different colorways. There’s the blue color for every signed pro/NIL athlete. There’s the black color for gold medalists/world record holders. And there’s a special green and yellow color way for the pre classic meet in Oregon (school colors). Also, Nike makes custom jerseys for the clubs they sponsor. Oregon Track Club (Cole hockers former club) uses white and green singlets, and Bowerman track club has a different singlet every year, you can google it. There’s also the team USA singlets and the singlets for the other countries they sponsor. All their singlets and shorts are the aeroswift model and you can find them online, just not in the pro colorways.
Yo these bots are crazy bruh💀
Yup. Got them removed.
@@TotalRunningProductionsthank you!
That 5:03 2-mile time by Grant Fisher is really impressive.
Ahh yes, at 6:12 of the video. Nice
post Olympics title: "I was wrong"
Nah, Jakob's gonna take another L.
Kerr will be Olympic champion. He’s a beast, and now has the one massive ingredient needed to be truly dominant; belief.
Kerr is gonna be "the next guy" again in Paris! 🚀
world lead in 2024 is going to be in the 3:26 - 3:27 range, could be Jakob, Kerr, or even Nuguse
No
Just jakob he is the youngest and best
The D-riding is crazzzzyyy
A healthy Jakob is the favorite in the 1500 in Paris. I think his best event is the 5000. Goose will give Jakob a real challenge.
I mean, the analysis here is good. But it’s also good to put things in perspective as a reminder. If you look at 2023, it was a string of world records and all-time top 4 performances, with only one loss in the entire season. It was the big one, but it was the only loss. On a good day, on paper, as of last summer, he was two seconds clear of everyone else at 1500m. But. That’s close enough for someone to take him on their own good day in a championship final. And that two seconds will probably be more like 1 second after this season. The rest are rising to the level of competition.
He’s still a phenomenal athlete, but the truth is the competition is stacked in what is arguably his least natural distance on the track.
At a 3:27 PB and age 23, he’d be crazy not to try a few years more to catch Guerrouj’s mark. He’s the best shot at it since Kiprop.
But the 3000m, 5000m, 10000m, and even above are probably going to be where he will really shine.
327 did he run at 22
Love seeing Sebastian Coe smash it back in the day!
If Jakob can run the race super hard near WR pace that's his best chance. You could have the top 3 all break 3:28 between him, Kerr and Naguse, with Hocker and a fully fit Whiteman in medal contention also. Anything tactical, I think Kerr has to be the favourite.
Biggest event of Paris Olympics in my opinion, I can't wait!!
Jakob. Yared. Nordas. Hocker. Kessler. Cam Meyers. Kerr. Wightman. McSweyn. Keter. Tefera. And so many more. It's going to be so good.
The Olympic 1500m could be a very interesting one with 2 from Scotland and 2 from Norway fighting for the medals.
Cole Hocker Baby!😎
His kick is totally back. He looks great
My thoughts: Big question mark over Jakob, Olli and Whiteman. Really exciting to see what happens. Current favourites: Kerr, Goose and Kessler. Outsiders: Hocker, Nordas and don’t forget about rising junior world record holder Cameron Myers. Beamish is dangerous too should he decide to run the 1500 as well as steeplechase.
Dont worry jakob is winning easly
Grant Fisher's two mile time shows 5:03 :) haha @6:09
SHEEEESH that almost sub 5 minute 2 mile time is CRAZY
Is a 5.26 40 yard dash on a wet field good for a 12 year old?
It's obvious Jakob has caught a few real bad variants because he hasn't done that last 400 meter kick for some time and it's clearly evident. Honestly with this bio weapon it's a toss up of who can stay the healthiest leading into the race and some people respond worse to it than others. With the quality of runners that have shown prowess we should have dipped into a sub 8 minute 2-mile some years ago as these guys run 60 second laps in their sleep.
gotta mention grant fisher for running 5:03 in the indoor 2 mile. possibility to win every distance over 1500m
Ingie's Olympic Record_"This record still stands today". Of course it does...hasn't been another Olympics since genius!!
great video, this just makes the olympics games even more exiciting
Am from Norway and i oc root for Jacob, but he and his yes crew needs a shot of humble. Look no further than to Warholm, hes the standard of role model imo
Yes, they were close, but he can´t pour the juice into one race, if he is going to compete in multi distance races days (or a day) apart like in your example WC. Did he not smash the field in his WRs?
JACOB is the still reigning 5000 meter world champion that means something and he should focus on dethroning the east african runners once and for all and move on from the 1500 meters IMO.
As a Brit, i’d love to personally see Wightman win again, but coming back from injury, i really don’t think that’s happening. Now i’m cheering for Kerr all the way!
Yarid is the only one what can run with him on a good day. Both the losses were on bad days for him. The other guys can come in and take it if he’s off, or doesn’t recover from doubling well, which is possible - but Yarid is definitely the only one in Jackobs stratosphere right now.
Olympics ale unpaced. But I would say McSweyn usually works as an accidental(?) pacer in global 1500 events.
Stewart Mcsweyn may we'll be the pacemaker because his fellow Australian Ollie Hoare has a great kick.
Please list complete book of work for each runner. Would love to see the list of wins for each. Winning a single race doesn’t make you a winner, losing a single race doesn’t make you a loser.
You have to explain this. It appears to me you are saying if you win a race you you didn't win. If you loose a race you didn't loose.
bots are crazy
Yeah. Took care of it.
Jakob ingebrigtsen is the best@@TotalRunningProductions
Cole hocker, really? US centric video but never gave a mention to Aussies who have an equal / better 😮chance than any nation. My money is on Cameron Myers. If not Paris then the next Olympics
Dude he is not defined by his losses. He will come back and prove you completely wrong
Good call on Hocker. He has a devastating kick and it looks like he could have the fitness to be there after 1200m.
I think Jakob's strategy has to be taking the lead early and setting a blistering pace to hopefully pull far enough ahead that nobody can out-kick him in the final 200. But with the athletes in this field I don't think that's gonna happen.
Look out for who ever the 3rd British runner is.
the next guy.
Did you get a new editor?
10-minute TRP Jakob Ingebrigtsen video?? let's gooooo!!!!
You forgot to mention the KLM train: Kessler, Laros, Myers.
Just wondering why there is another Jakob video with nothing interesting in it but there was no video on Grant Holloway breaking a world record? Did I miss something?
To win the 1500 it would be helpful for Jakob to race the 800 against world class competition a few times to improve his top end speed and get his leg turnover used to running faster since he’s still young.
I believe Kipsang from Kenya and Garcia from Spain are more of a threat than Hocker...they both have broken 3.30 which is what is going to take to win this...Hocker has not broken 3.30 yet...
Everybody saying Kipchoge on a decline
He just ran 02:02:40 and got first place in September, he’s just setting up for the Olympics
Love your vids man! Keep it up❤
3:29 mile is insane. A lot of people couldn't do that on a bicycle. Running at 18miles per hour for 3.5 minutes is unreal.
Yeah well that would be 14 seconds faster than the mile run world record lol. So yes pretty insane.
That’s a 1500m time, more realistically 😊
Cole Hocker wouldn't be in this list if he were not American. He isn't a title threat.
not a threat for gold but I think he has the potential to get bronze
it really all depends on how fast his kick will be at the end. he’s ran 3:30 so he can run a really fast time with a kick. he just needs to use it at the right time
Love and respect this channel
He's won Two , back to back 5000m global titles in the World Outdoor Championships
Don't you be bringing none of them thar facts to a TRP video!
Jakob won't do it. He's gonna be injured or just lose and play like he was sick
"Doesn't have the raw sprinting speed" but runs 3:43 mile is insane
Lots of mistakes here. First, going back to 2021, hocker’s last lap was 54.8, and it was the 4th fastest. Who was faster? Kerr 54.15, Ingebrigtsen 54.42 and kipsang 54.76. Yes Ingebrigtsen had the 2nd fastest last lap. Kerr was 1.0 seconds back at the bell, gained about .2 from 400 to 200, and nothing from 200 to 20 to go, when Ingebrigtsen let up.
In 2022, off a similarly fast pace, Wightman stuck to Jakob, down 0.16 at the bell, and outran him 54.84 to 55.24 on the last lap. Jakob’s last lap was 4th fastest. Faster were Garcia, 55.02 after being down .98 at the bell, and Katir, 55.18 after being down .49 at the bell. Ingebrigtsen’s last 200 was 3rd fastest, as he was .03 faster than Katir from that point.
In 2023, the official splits are all messed up. Nordas had a fine last lap, but it was about 53.5, not 52.61 (his last 200 is 26.5 or better). Look at the relative positions of everyone with 300 to go. Ingebrigtsen pulls away from everyone except Kerr and Nordas. He runs the 3rd fastest last 300.
From 2021 Olympics to end of 2023, when Ingebrigtsen is 100% healthy (I believe him when he said he was not fully healthy at the 2023 champs), only Wightman has been able to stay with him and out kick him. I estimate Kerr has about an equally good kick, but he can’t ordinarily keep up. The 23 champs was his only career victory in 11 1500 finals against Jakob. Remember the semifinal in Budapest where Ingebrigtsen went 10th to first with a sub 52 (the official splits claim it was 50.6)
Jakob has a very good kick. All this TV announcer drama talk that he doesn’t, is just false.
Exited this video at the mention of "smack talk"
I’m sure he’s devastated by the loss of your view
Well, that was about three minutes in. So the view will still count. And the comment feeds the algorithm too.
@@calvinonmc The way he continually stokes the "school girl drama" he may be crying himself to sleep tonight.
@@dannywilliams23 And?
I think if he misses the 1500m win he will focus on 5000m & 10000m. I cant wait to see him later move to the h.m and marathon. Hed drop a pretty incredible half marathon given his threshold pace.
A video this long and you people are not considering Kenyans and Ethiopians,
Kenyans finished last and second last in the final.
Its crazy to think about that Narve Nordås's coach is actually Jacob's father.
You can't train through Achilles injury, if that's what he has. I think his own father said he sees an early peak for Jakob. This could be it.
He is still the favourite despite all the postering about others. Favourite means all things considered odds are he will win. Sure others can win cause it’s sport and outcomes are uncertain. I wouldn’t bet against him. Others can do what they want.
I am a huge fan of his, however his stuggles are all mental. He can be a head case and that keeps him from being even more dominant than he already is. If he can get that under control, watch out.
Peter Snell did not compete over the last half a century. He was competing 60 years ago.
Jokab would be a beast doing a 5K/10K double in the Olympics! Maybe LA ‘28?
And 1500m
Cam Myers is the biggest threat. Cole Hocker won't make the final
I see people talking about the olympic record. I thought a new record is made after the previous time record is beaten, what does the location have to do with the time? People are arguing about the location (2021 Olympics) but what about the time? Cant you beat the olympic record without in the olympic m? Is the olympic track different from the local track? Are people that blind to not see that the location does not matter and that the time and performance is the only thing that matters?
How to improve distance running time
Jakob needs to run his Olympic record pace or below that. That’s his strength. He should lean into that and run at a level which no one can live with
If he plays the game where there is a pack in touching distance of each other, then a kick wins it, he’s COOKED. And personally, I don’t like races like that
His PB is 3:27:14. If he runs anything near this, the gold is his.
In that race he was paced through 1200 meters. Nobody's going to do him that favor in Paris.
If he still injured, I just hope he is ready for Paris. Jakob is very consistent and despite all the talented athletes out there, he is very capable of winning gold. Good luck to everyone at the Olympics.
Hes not injured now
Jacob always has completion in every race but, Wins 90 percent of the time at every distance he runs. I think he will win 1500m final in Paris
In your summary of previous 1500 winners you did not mention that Snell only ran one Olympic 1500 - in 1964. He ran - and won - the 800 in 1960 and 1964.
You did not mention at all Kip Keino - gold in 1968 and silver in 1972.
Very careless and sloppy reporting here.
“And this record still stands today.”
Um yeah no shit. There hasn’t been another Olympics. Lol
Lol, I laughed when he said that xD
that was a nothing video. "this record still stands today" lol
Summary:
On the one hand, person A is good, and he could win
On the other hand, person B is also good and could also win
Who really knows, time will tell, as only... dum dum dum... one person can win.
Jakob was sick in Budapest so your point is not really right
Please make a video about the Olympic Trials!!
Great video, if he regains full health and fitness it will still be a challenge to win gold, in any case the final will be a real burner.
why you hating on the boy Inglebrixton?
Simple , 7:54 for two miles and just 8 minutes flat for Kerr. Jakob is better and he beat Kerr in the Olympic final in the 1500 and until proven different with all your non- expertise commentary’s and speculation, he’s still the best.
Jakobs indoor 1500m record in 4 seconds slower than the outside 1500m record. Indoor is slower track, more tight corner and is during the time athletes aren't close to peaking
Josh Kerr turned out better than i thought he would