Jakob Ingebrigtsen Situation Is Wild
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Honestly, there are at least 6 athletes that I could easily see winning this race, it all comes down to who’s the healthiest on the day and who runs the best. Can’t wait .
I agree. It really does come down to that particular day.
I'm gonna take a stab at the 6? 😅
Ingebrigsten
Kerr
Wightman
Nuguse
Nordas
Katir?
@@sealdan88 yeah, that’s basically it. I also wonder if there will be an underdog in there somewhere.
@@DisgruntledPlatypus I honestly could see the young gun Niels Laros sneaking into the top 3, but we'll have to see first how his season goes.
@@sealdan88 completely agree, he looked super strong in the world championships this year, and he’s definitely still improving.
These guys say Jakob only runs fast in paced races but then they will happily sit back and let Jakob pace them.
That’s true then they can’t get near him 95% of the time .
They're smart to not pace Jakob to a gold medal and you can be sure they won't pace Jakob to a gold medal this year either.
If Jacob is normal healthy he will take the gold. We all know that. He is much stronger than the others.
Yea I hear the hypocrisy but at the same time; when they’re claiming he can’t win w/o pacers make him the pacer then try to outlast or out kick him. Its smart racing strategy tbh
@@tylerbrubaker_7 for sure its smart. but it's a little bit ridiculous for Kerr to act like Jakob is so weak in championship races because he relies on a pacer when Kerr wouldn't win anything without people up front. Even in a paced race after WC he lost to Nguse. It is very smart racing but it looks rather weak talking smack on Jakob on whatever podcast will give him a platform.
Let’s not forget Yared Nuguse’ 3:43.97 at the Prefontaine Classic, Nuguse who looked amazing setting the American Record and the fourth fastest mile of all time was just 3 tenths behind Ingebrigsen who barely held Nuguse off. Nuguse did not quite put together that kind of finish at the World Championships, but Nuguse was still only 6 tenths of a second off Ingebrigsen.
Agree - However, JI lead (time trialled) the whole way and still held him off at the finish. If it was the other way around, I don’t think Nuguse would’ve held him off in the final 100-200
Honestly don’t think Nuguse could have ran that without Jakob pacing him. Don’t think he had a chance of winning that race, he just held on to Jakob.
There are so many comers in the 1500, probably 10 guys under 3:31 ,( or thereabouts) that could have a realistic shot in the right circumstances.
Barely hold off? Nuguse never got any closer, plus he had a pacer the entire race… Whereas Jakob has shown time and time again that he has potential to run amazing times in several distances
The point is what kind of form will Nuguse be in by Paris? It's mouth-watering. And Nordas. And Ingebritsen 😂
i literally got chills when you pronounced Nordås the first time, and as the first non-Norwegian I've ever heard, said it perfectly. applause
Relax Narvin Noodles
How does this affect Lebron’s legacy…?
Who?
Or Levan’s?
Real
cook
Lebron has 2 Olympic gold medals. Jakob needs one more to tie him
Jacob thrives on pressure. We'll see if he can rise to the occasion and run his legs faster than Kerr's mouth. If he does, no one will be able to catch him.
lol
He hasn’t really thrives on pressure in the past. He was somewhat of an underdog in Tokyo. And in the diamond league he uses pacers and wave lights rather than races. And to make sure his legs run faster than his kerrs mouth, he needs to race it. Not time trial it
In fairness, Kerr cannot run at the pace of his own mouth so they will only have to beat him at leg running.
@@Creameggs42 I guess we'll find out in Paris.
I’m not so sure he does . Both times he lost to , wightman & Kerr , both runners had kept up with him all the way , usually he has broken the field with say 2-300 m left , when both those runners were still with him going around the final bend , he was unable to pull away and was beaten pretty much in identical ways .
I see this as a positive. More competition means faster times. It will benefit the sport and the runners. By the way, isn't Nordas coached by Jakob's father? Last I heard, he was.
Yes, and Jacob has broken contact with his father due to family issues and even accused him of abuse
@@thepollinggodfather Quite right.
uuuuh drama
Nobody talking bout Niels Laros going from 3min39 to 3min31 in one season. iIf he drops 8 seconds again this season that will be a 3min23. Of course thats not gonna happen but i wont be suprised seeing him make the podium.
Gjert's Double-Threshold and lactic methods have been well documented on the Ingebrigtsen series, and are proliferating around the globe. There is no moat.
He lost at euro junior cross late last year…
needs to be noted that Jacob switched off the jets when he saw he couldnt catch Kerr, i dont wanna take anything away from Narve but he was still pushing and Jacob wasnt
The thing is, if Jakob runs his best race, he is likely to win easily, but he can't risk hanging around. There are plenty of people who will challenge him and are even likely to beat him if they are still in touch at the bell and the pace is not ridiculously fast. I don't know what the schedule is like for Paris, but Jakob needs to commit 100% to the 1500m final, if he is going to win. It will be interesting to see how everyone's build goes this year, then we'll have a better idea of what people may be capable of. If Nordas continues to improve like last year and Jakob doesn't push things on further, it could be very tight even with Jakob running really fast. We also can't rule out Yared Nuguse, Mohammed Katir and even Tim Cheruiyot all of whom have thrown down some great times and in the case of Nuguse and Katir still seem to be improving. Whatever happens the 1500m is looking really strong and should be a great event.
The 1500 in Paris will be wild.
I believe Yared will win. Jakob is my favorite but Yared is on a crazy trajectory.
😂
Yared is hungrier bc he hasnt had what jakob already has had.
@@TrackStar42 and he has all the talent. Such a likeable guy too.
@@J.e.f.f.r.e.y very true but Yared was literally a full time student and part time runner until just 18 months ago. The mile with Jakob in Eugene was after only 1 year of full dedication to the sport. He has a steeper trajectory in my opinion.
@@J.e.f.f.r.e.y me too. It will be a great year. The problem with track is I literally like almost every runner. So my favourites win and lose at every race haha. Jakob is part of the reason I got into it though. What a stud
For me this year the more exciting narrative in the 1500 is the continued development of the young Dutch sensation Niels Laros!
Another interesting fact about Nordås is that he is coached by Jacobs dad.
Is å any different from the o?
Edit: I see, the å is always an [o] sound but an o is a [u] sound(most of the time).
Yes. We pretty much always pronounce å like spanish o, and almost always pronounce o like spanish u
Was wondering why he didn’t mention that in the video. Pretty remarkable that a coach first takes his three sons to elite level and then starts training others with remarkable results 🏃♂️
@@marcusdahlman I mean, he's said to have been quite abusive to Ingebrigsten brothers. So there's also that.
Agree. Probably not the best father, but a good coach
Nice video! I think you're spot on. That closing speed is out of this world... I would love to see Mo Katir and Yared Nuguse do well as well.
0:18; 800m World Champ Mary Moraa keeps getting left out of that rivalry :( Keely has 1 win in 5 races vs Athing while Mary has 2 wins in 5 races vs Athing & Mary has beaten Keely in 5 of their last 8 races.
Very true. She ain't no joke.
Yeah, I was really confused at that. Seemed quite US athletics centric.
Keely's started getting the better of Mu (who barely seems interested in the sport at all), but Moraa has suddenly become the big rival, if not just fully out dominating on her own.
@@luckyspurs Keely has 1 win in 5 races vs Athing while Mary has 2 wins in 5 races vs Athing & Mary has beaten Keely in 5 of their last 8 races.
I have been saying since the worlds that Nordas was going to win the 1500 at the Paris Olympics, and I still believe it. However, Jakob is my favorite, and I want him to win to quite all the haters.
The reason Nordås was able to close Jakob is because Jakob, seeing his inevitable loss to Kerr, had given up, while Nordås still had everything to race for. Had Jakob sensed he still had the opportunity to win, there is no way Nordås would have come within 3/100 s.
Kiptum will chew kipchoge like chewing gum and spit him out on the way to gold. Kipchoge is my goat, but Kiptum is an absolute titan right now and is entering his distance prime while kipchoge is far removed from his despite being the best combatant against Father Time we’ve ever seen
God I hope he's clean tho, it's almost unreal how fast he has progressed
Rip
It's sad to say but this comment did not age well
RIP Kiptum
As someone not that up to speed on middle distance running I'm trying to understand, if Kerr and Nordas have a faster finish than Ingebrigtsen, shouldn't Ingebrigtsen aim to flat pace the race at a faster pace than Kerr and Nordas can hold to neutralize their fast finish?
Aah this year is gonna be amazing: Jakob and Kerr rivalry, wightman comeback, nuguse, Nordas and let’s not forget Katir and laros. Who knows who else might pop up
This Josh Kerr hype is off the charts - he promptly got outkicked by Nuguse in his next Diamond League 1500 following Budapest, despite having pacers in the Zurich race to help him break GB’s natl record, and was suddenly “tired” (i.e., he “couldn’t” run in the Pre Classic in Eugene) after Ingebrigtsen set another WR in Brussels (this time in the 2000m) - probably a smart move by Kerr, though, since Ingebrigtsen just missed a 3rd WR in 2023 in the mile and followed that up with a ER in the 3000m the next day @ the Pre Classic - until Kerr changes his sit & kick style (detested by knowledgeable track fans) to the hammer-it-from-start-to-finish approach run by Prefontaine in the ‘70s and Ingebrigtsen & Nuguse now…let’s just say Ingebrigtsen’s 2023 will never be forgotten and may never be replicated, while Kerr’s one win v. Ingebrigtsen was just another sit & kick yawner
I love this new style of videos. Very suspenseful!!
If Jakob doesn't run the 5000, he has a shot at the world record in the 1500
No way, he’s not getting a world record with no pacers
Not in the Olympics he doesn't. Having Heats, Semi, then Final tends to blunt the top times plus not having pacemakers tends to put a dampener on middle/long distance track races. No one wants to lead and provide cover for those other really fast runners whose only goal is to WIN. From memory I think the last time the World Record was recorded in the 1500 final was in 1960 with the great Australian Herb Elliot.
Just dont think the world record is a concern to anyone in this season..... but you raised my curiosity on whether Jakob would try to compete in both 1500 and 5000..... I remember back in tokyo, the schedule did not give any possibility, but what if paris does give a 2 to 3 days gap between these 2 events...... I would like to see Jakob finish the double rather than chasing the world record right now
Agreed!! It's a point left out of these videos. Who else running against Jacob has had a couple of 5000m against the world best in their legs before running the 1500m final against the worlds best. Missing the 5000m might not result in a world record 1500m but will for sure improve his shot at 1500m gold.
@@sergeluabsolute tosh .
Thanks for pronouncing Nordås’ name correctly. Annoys me to hear every sports commentator call him “Nord-ass”.
Jakob breaks the world record in Paris and silences the haters. Calling 3:25.77
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@@adrianriverapr6288bro wdym bro he's ran 3:27 before
@@ambiguousheadline8263 o my bad I thought he was talking about kerr 💀
There’s a reason no one ever breaks a work record in a world final that’s over 800m. Jacob is overrated, and doesn’t know how to run a smart 1500 when it matters most
It’s not hate. Jakob is an incredible talent but has lost twice on the big stage - clearly, no debating. And getting the WR after running rounds is no easy feat. Definitely not a feat that Jakob shows he’s anywhere near capable of doing. Don’t underestimate that record.
How could this video not mention Gjert (Jakob's dad) is coaching this kid? That's adding all kinds of mental drama and chaos to upcoming races between them, knowing your dad is coaching your competition, and you don't speak right now.
Look out for a dutch treat in the Paris men’s 1500 meters.
Really well put together analysis.
So great to see this profile on Narve. Massive improvement in 2023, like Nuguse in 2022. I see Nuguse as the biggest challenger. Jakob is by far the best 1500 and mile runner. Looking past his 3.:27.14, a gold in Paris would cements his place in history as one the greatest champions of all time. No doubt Jakob will aim for peak health at that time :-) Let it rip.
Really!!! He was 5 seconds behind JI in the 3.43 mile. With so much talent, the olympics will be fast from the start, so he’ll be no where
One is only on top until someone else takes it away. Love the intense competition!
Well done, insightful documentary. In spite of all the drama, family drama, smack talk, and trying to get into and attack Jakob's head, I suspect Jakob Ingebrigtsen will be well-prepared in all respects for Paris 2024. However, I think you've presented a valid case for Mr. Nordas---he will be in Paris to medal, but foremost of all---go for the gold. It will be fascinating to watch the games.
Really, though it is now a much different time, with runners earning a living from success in non-Olympic competition. Regardless, it IS the Olympic Games that will indeed bring out the best and leave a lasting legacy for the winners, and to a certain extent, the other medalists.
I wanted to bring out the example from an earlier but significant era; Finland's Lasse Viren. He was virtually unknown going into the '72 Olympics, though he had very recently set the world record in the 2-mile run. Lasse's double victory amidst a very talented field stood the distance running world on its ear. Yet, in the intervening years, Lasse did not compete much in major events, much to the surprise and consternation of the competition. But, when he returned to the Olympic stage at Montreal in 1976, he shut everybody up with what has gone down as the greatest 5,000 meters gold medal victory race ever run!
It's easy to prognosticate ad nauseum, but I'll simply say, we shall see but we shall see.
Thank you again, for a relevant and well researched documentary.
i think a lot of ppl also underestimate the progress of another even younger talent, Niels Laros, mark my words, he will be a threat for the podium as well. you could see at the worlds that he was in the top 3-4 most of the race, except for the closing lap, so all he has to improve is his last lap, if he can do that he is in the mix i think.
Absolutely. He was 3rd coming into the homestraight. Another year and he'll only be stronger. Jakob ran 3:28 at 19. I see Laros doing the same.
The way Ollie hoare won the commonwealth games shows he’s capable of winning as is nuguse - add that to Nordas kerr wightman Jakob and Laros who’ll be a year older and maybe improved enough to be in contention it’s race of the championship
Great video and I'm grateful. I hate the titles though, who knows what the video is actually about.
Guy with American accent: What do you think about Nordås?
Norweigian guy: Noodles? Nah thanks Im not hungry
Surprised you didn't mention Nordas's coach.
He's controversial, but has coached some athletes to great accomplishments.....
Also disappointed (confused) by your pronunciation - he doesn't represent Nuur-way. He represents Nor-way. If you can pronounce his country, Im sure you could pronounce his name..... Great vid as always
"Jakob Ingrebrigtsen Has An ENORMOUS Problem" X3
Nordås won the "Breakthrough of the year" award at the Norwegian Sports Awards just a few hours ago.
Who on earth won sportsperson of the year out of Haaland, Ødegaard, Ingebrigtsen, Warholm, Hovland and Klæbo?
Haaland presumably?
@luckyspurs It's not easy to be the best in Norway this year :p Haaland got "Male athlete of the year" and "The athlete's award".
"Name of the year" was awarded to Maren Lundby (ski jumper)
1500m smack talk is something I didn't know I needed in my life.
*Should be mentioned that Nordås is trained by Gerd Ingebrigtsen, Jakob's father ⚡
Gjert*
Awesome to have so much competition for the OL title 😀
Should mention that Nordås is coached by Jakobs father Gjert Ingebrigtsen.
Jakob is going to game plan even better now. Jakob's inexperience was what hurt him in those 2 races. He now knows what these dudes are hiding and what they are going to try to do. Jakob is going to drown these dudes its not even close. Jakob's consistency is unmatched.
You've got to start naming your videos differently bro, It takes my entire will to click theese dog titles.
The clickbait is getting so annoying.
And this one is the worst clickbait! You won't believe it. Watch to the end!
Josh isn't called Josh any more. He's call Wan.
I see what you did there, lolz!
*Gjert intensifies*
honestly the sons' lack of respect this year over their dad's teaching methods upset me last year. It reminds me of the film Whiplash... most walk away thinking the band leader was an a-hole, but I walked away thinking "well that's what it takes to be the Charlie Parker of Drums." and his soft film-dad would have preferred him as a mediocre coffee barista.
Similarly if Nordas, a natural-born teen phenom athlete, is happy taking on Gjert's methods without whining this year, Jakob, his brothers, and the world are in for a surprise. Jokob still has the upper-hand having gone under 3.38 but if his momentum falters, he's screwed.
Previously I'd have put money on Jakob going under 3:37 and gold, but with his home harmony in tatters and pressing police investigations on his father, whilst his younger brother still lives under the same roof, sounds a stretch... although it could be the conflict suits his mentality, we'll see.
It's between Kerr, Ingebrigtsen, Wightman, Nuguse and Nordås, to be honest. Girma, Katir, Kipsang and maybe Garcia are in the mix after that.
Jakob is best suited for the 5000m in global championships. He has a good kick, but not devastating which is why he has been beaten in 2 of the last three 1500m finals. He is the best 1500m time-trialer , but is vulnerable in championships.
Here's a point left out of these videos. Who else running against Jacob has had a couple of 5000m against the world best in their legs before running the 1500m final against the worlds best. Missing the 5000m might not result in a world record 1500m but will for sure improve his shot at 1500m gold.
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To preface, I'm a massive Jakob fan and hope he wins at Paris, but if you're referring to last years World Champs then what you've said is incorrect. The heats, semis and final of the 1500m all came before the 5000m. The final of the 1500m took place on 23 August, the heat of the 5000m on 24 August. If I've misinterpreted your post, my apologies.
Like wtf? There are probably 10 people with higher chances than nordas (all respect to him of course): Nuguse, Kejelcha, Katir, Garcia Romo, Kipsang, Cheruyot, Laros, etc. Where is this video even coming from?
I am thinking these problems for JI are of a strategic nature and with a little thinking himself he can overcome their challenges. Sometimes winning has its own issues.
Great job Noodles!
Hmmm, can't wait to see how this goes down
Although you are the worlds desidedly best runner in a distance you are of course not immune against sickness, but I cannot understand why its so big to beat a man which is not at his best then you can clearly see he is charactericized of illnes. People that know Jakob Ingebrigtsen could just look at him in that race and see that he was not healthy. As the by far fastest runner in the pack, he was ofcourse asked if he was sick. He will never blame others than himself, but then he at last answered that question and told that he had a fever, one of the other runners typically called him a bad looser. To be healthy at the most importent race day for the season is a big part of the game, but people that have worked with Jakob can tell that he is a nice guy, he is never blaming others than himselves for bad races, and has always been extreamly strong in his head. The Norwegian team doctor told that Jakob had got an inflammation and had some fever during the night before but despite if this he just had to try to run the 1500 m final. Of course, as a runner of his icredible high level he must also be allowed to be disappointed, and it's incredible that more people don't see that Jakob is running much slower than normal, and remember that he is the only one that don't have a pacer through all the runs. And when he is healthy he always runs the two last laps significantly faster than anyone else are capable to. In the 5000 m final his health was somewhat improvinga, but because he was not yet decleared healthy enought to use the tactics he loved by taking the lead in the last 1000 m, he had to use his strongest part, his head. And based on the conditions he had that day he made a almost perfectly tactically executrd race then he became World Champion for the second time in a row. He is a extremely good long distance runner which love the middle distances.
Jakob getting second place is still a good achievement in the Olympics. Second place does not equal losing.
Oh it does... Winners get the spoils and glory....
No one remembers the runners up , remember 2 nd place is the first of the losers .
I don’t think that’s how Jakob will see it.
I'm sorry but second place IS losing.
0:49 Jakob is Marty McFly: change my mind!
Niels Laros could be in the mix too.
When the cats away the rats will always be the big thief in the house.
boy o boy! they are poking the bear , Jacob is going to run so hard and so fast everyone behind him is going to stop and throw up.
I don't think that he has a slight chance to beat Jacob , did you watch the 5000m final and how far back he was behind Jacob . He doesn't have near the strength of Jacob .
And when he set his PB's is the mile and 2000m , who destroyed him in both races . Give me a break , if someone has the balls , other than Jacob , to lead a fast pace in the Olympic final , I'll have more respect for him the Nordes . Nordes is a follower not a Leader . I think Yared and Jacob will finish one-two in the Olympic Final . With a suprise in third ( not Wightman, Kerr or Nordes)
Finally some common sense in this thread.
Maybe Katir the guy from Spain.
Kerr will get injured and not compete in the olympics. Remember where you hard it first :)
Tired of the super clickbaity titles
Stop crying
I see you got inspired by a LEMMINO soundtrack :D
This years Olympics of 2024… is the same distance to the 1980 Olympics of Sebastian Coe and Steve Ovett fame as it is the 1980 to the 1936 Jesse Owens’ Olympics…let that sink in! Times fly…time flies…
Add another US talent in Yared Nuguse, who is also on the rise with his recent sub 3:44 mile.
You actualy said "å/Å" correct :D
Jacob’s dad is using Noodles to wake Jacob the F up.
Been paying attention to Narve Gilje Nordås since 2020, but imo a lot of things have to go right for him to get gold. I don't think he will get it. Will still cheer for him though
Predicions.
Gold for Yaka Binga Bricken in 0:43, beating brother Inab Bricken at 1:26 into Silver, with a close Bronze at 1:30 by Yakob Binga Brick.
Inab Brixon at 1:37 will be 4th ahead of the junior, Yaka Binga Brickson. Though undoubtedly impressive, at 2:20 it means he has a few more years to emulate his dad.
M-Inab Brixton broke records in Europe but these are the Olympics and his 2:35 will only net him 6th. 7th will sea the ship out of water, Naval Vessel, the NV Neuros, will arrive at 2:48, track&field-trial deploying performance enhancing military tech. A justifiably aggrieved Yakoba Brixen, pushed from his berth into 8th at 3:02.
How is his injury?
Clickbait is getting worse on this channel. Getting tired of JI. Let’s see some different stories TRP
Haven't seen a properly titled video on here for months, so I've stopped watching mostly. It's always "this is so bad" or "this is awful" or "it needs to stop". Just give us a headline, I don't get the clickbait. There is no reason for it. Im more likely to click on a video that says "Jakob's training" or "Jakob's injured" or Jokob's due to race in.... " thank something like this. It's so annoying
I liked my own comment
I liked yours and mine
Who is Nordas coach?
Jakob needs a rudisha-esque performance
No mention of Nguse?
Norda is a 3:29 runner, Jakob will break the WR.
No one's breakin the world record in a championship final.
Yeah, but who can close like Morceli?
Didn't Haille Gabrielle run the final 400m of his 10,000m world recordin 52 seconds?
Crazy that Nordås is coached by Jakobs old coach, Jakobs dad!
Jakob made Josh to win, and Jakob made Nordas to bronze, without Jakob, the other two wouldn't shine....they know that too....they're just following footsteps, but the LEADER is Jakob!!!!
I predict 1. Jakob. 2. Narve. 3. Nuguse.
Nordas spitting facts he will place higher than Kerr at the Olympics
How is this worse?? I think it’s much better!
Kerr forever will be chasing ingebrigsten
so many new young talents none of the favorites may win.
Jakob has a prime opportunity to silence the doubters. Multiple people are talking about how all they care about is the 1500m Olympic final and beating him. If he can pull out the gold it's over
if if if....
If Jakob is healthy, he wins.
Jacob will win❤
Wait until the season begins then you will be able to give your prediction
God I cannot wait for some spectacular WR attempts 😋😛😛😋😋😋😋
Why are your video titles almost always so click batey?? Why the hyperbole?
Because people click and watch. Notice how the videos last over 8 minutes almost every time: you get to put ad rolls and generate more revenue.
Unless someone goes out hard and leads for the first 1km in sub 3.30 pace with Jakob sitting in I can't see Jakob winning. If he has to do all the work and make it fast on his own he'll run out of steam and get overtaken. If it's slower he will get out kicked. No one will do the pacing for him if they have any sense.
GB runners seem to be more competitive and stronger in depth than ever before…
Than EVER? There were eras when they dominated. Coe, Ovett and Cram were the peak of the last one.
Should probably have talked about the personal beef between Jakob and Narve.
How is nobody talking about niels laros
I know! He was in 3rd place with 100m to go last year but just ran out of steam. He'll be even stronger this year.
Jacob was SICK in this race, not feeling up to snuff
He’s not beating Jakob the only reason he got close at the wc is bc Jakob let off the gas bc he was already beat
The Josh Kerr hate on this channel is wild 😭... he made a valid criticism of jakobs racing style. Meanwhile Jakob is all on the "I lost to the next guy and lesser runners nonsense"😭 😭😭😭
Thats because Kerr talks like he something special after beating BARELY Jakob in ONE race, which Jakob paced even when sick. All the 20ish other races between them he hasnt even been close. He can talk about pacers, but he isnt capaple to follow the pacers lol. Kerr is like 4th division team that beat a PL team oout of the cup and suddenly thinks they are better. No, the only one that is close to a healthy Jakob is Naguse.