Will God Ever Give Up On A Person?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Biblical Evidence For Christian Universalism: Will God Ever Give Up On A Person?
The Following Topics Are Discussed:
The never-ending love of God.
The purpose of punishment.
The consequences of sin.
The assurance of divine compassion.
The transcendent hope that we have in Christ.
Ezekiel Chapter 37: The Valley of Dry Bones
Hebrews Chapter 9: Man is appointed once to die
Lamentations Chapter 3: Jeremiah’s grief and God’s grace
1 Corinthians Chapter 5: Separation for the sake of reconciliation
Romans Chapter 11: All people have been consigned to disobedience.
1 Peter Chapters 3-4: Christ descending into Hades
The Apostles Creed
Learn more about The Orthodox Universalist Channel at orthodoxuniversalist.com.
Discussing Universal salvation. Following the universal King.
5:40 NO! It is impossible for hesed, lovingkindness to ever end. His mercy has no beginning and no end. Praise you father, forever. Amen
Amen Brother! we are never too far gone, no one is out of God's reach! For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I want to thank you so much for your content. I've struggled with Hell for years, and the idea that so many people I love are headed there. I've always considered it against God's nature to confine people to such a place, even if they deserve it because God is merciful, and I know He wants people to be saved more than anyone else including myself and He's able to make it happen because He's God. I just always thought Scripture wasn't on my side, so I tried to stay away from universalism, but you've shown me that the Bible has a lot more support for it than I thought. Thanks again.
Eternal punishment is easy to believe in when you are convinced that you and your loved ones will never face such a horrific consequence.
I have same exact issue as you are. Constante doubt about whatever or not I following the will of the Lord, or that I just preteding and lying to myself that I do. But that is the glory of the Universal Salvation. For if salvation is truly not the resoult of my work, then all my falls and downs are not dictating the fact of whatever i am saved or not. I am flawed, but the Lord who loves me IS perfect.
You video is just in time, and, once again, I encourge you continue your work.
God bless you!
Great stuff! We rest in His perfection, not ours! Thanks again for the encouragement!
Great stuff! We rest in His perfection, not ours! Thanks again for the encouragement!
Thank you so much for all of your hard work so far, I’ve watched all of your videos to date and I think you’re doing an excellent job. I’ve been looking into Christian Universalism for about a year now, and while I’m cautious and hold to a “Hopeful Universalism”, I really appreciate how you communicate these things in a humble, sensitive and extremely biblical and scriptural way. Again, thank you, it’s really clear that you put a lot of work into these videos and I just wanted you to know how appreciated they are.
Take care and stay safe 🙏
Thanks a bunch for the encouragement! I pray you find the answers you are looking for. I prayed, and read, and studied the issue for many years as well. I’m thankful the Lord continues to build his kingdom as we all work to pursue it.
Thank you 🙏 Yes, prayer and reading - and that’s the thing - what has been convincing to me so far is Scripture. The passages that began this study for me were the parables of the Lost sheep, coin and the Prodigal Son, and then others as you have shown here. Plus the testimony of the early Church Fathers, all added together certainly make a strong case for the Restoration of All Things. I pray you will keep on doing what you’re doing, and thank you again 🙏
Edit: Sorry in case anyone else reads this - full disclosure: not all of the Church Fathers were Universalists, I should have said some of the Early Church Fathers in my previous reply. While they didn’t always agree on every issue, the fact that some - and very important ones too, such as Origen and the Cappadocian Fathers - including St, Gregory of Nyssa no less - plus others, held to the Restoration of All Things, shows that this is not a “heresy” as many suggest today, rather that there were different opinions about this in the early Church - and that should be OK for us today too - if you watch these videos but you don’t agree, that’s fine but you don’t need to leave a negative comment. Ultimately only God really knows the answer to all these things so we just need to be humble, hold our views humbly and lightly, and be prepared to change if and when we’re presented with good evidence to do so, and I happen to think that this channel is providing good evidence to at least give Christian Universalism some serious thought.
Thanks for your work, you make a good case, and I want to believe universalism is true, as it seems to me most consistent with perfect love, it's hard to think of perfect love ever abandoning anyone for all eternity (and ETC is a hard thing to grapple with in light of a perfectly loving God), but I'm afraid if I am only still a hopeful universalist rather than confident in the claim-- there are quite a few passages that are hard to reconcile, but I liked that one from Jeremiah you presented, it's a strong one.
Thanks for the feedback and for sharing about your experience. It’s definitely a lot to think about. I appreciate that you want to remain faithful to your convictions. Great stuff!
@@orthodoxuniversalist Well I would count myself amongst universalists, I'm just fearful of the possibility that it might not be so. Thanks
I believe Hod is merciful snd loving and king but he is also the judge. He doesnt give us what we deserve
only a true seeker is this honest about his own struggles
I am 5 minutes into this and I paused and reviewed the Valley of Dry Bones story, and I am wondering if this was a vision or something that really happened[in an equally symbolic way, since it was clearly symbolic either way.]. I had simply assumed that it was "just" a vision, but now I feel 50/50 after reviewing it. Either way I am sure it will be a reality in the future even if it was a vision.
Really good 👍
That was before jesus died for their sins si he was giving them a chance to repent.
I was wondering if a person can give up on God permanently
Thanks for the comment!
Some would say yes. C.S. Lewis famously remarked that he thought hell would be locked from the inside. In his view, the main thing wasn’t that God gave up on sinners but that he allowed sinners the choice to give up on him, and to lock him out.
While I love C.S. Lewis, I can’t reconcile his take on this with passages like 1 Corinthians 15, where we find that all things will be subjected to Christ.
On a personal note, I don’t think that we can stop ourselves from moving forward. We are designed to be God’s image bearers, and since God is infinite, we are destined for an infinite journey of discovering him, and reflecting who he is. So, no, I don’t think that a person can give up on God permanently. If you want a little more detail, check out the video called “Destined For Progress” on the channel.
Thanks again!
@@orthodoxuniversalist Ty, I agree with the aspects of God you mentioned btw, it’s just I get the feeling the problem doesn’t lie with God’s lacking. I’m EO too and couldn’t ever imagine someone wanting to reject God btw, especially after witnessing his Grace but I’ve always wondered if someone would reject healing permanently since the choice does exist? I am hopeful all get saved ofc, but I don’t think Christ would force it…. (There’s that undying worm part which did give me food for thought)
Will check out your video :)
Are you greek orthidox
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