One thing that I wish we got to see is these grips in motion perfectly synced with gameplay on video, so we can see things like how are they using these grips whilst navigating the maps, throwing utility, dueling, holding angles etc. Just seeing the snapshots of player grips only seems to tell half the story.
Not true, just controlling the recoil of the rifles and SMG's adds a dimension of vertical control that is needed. And some of these players play on insanely low sensitivity. Then you add in maps like Nuke, Vertigo, Anubis etc. where there are catwalks, vent shafts, elevated areas and lower than ground level dips in the sites, and you're doing a lot more management of vertical aiming than you may think.
Secret has to be not overthinking it and just doing what's natural, These guys definitely are almost all muscle memory with their grip. If they started thinking of how they hold their mouse they wouldn't even know atp.
I've became conscious of my grip bc I would think about it and it would erase my muscle memory then clog my mind. So i started trying to do what was natural and just pay attention so I wouldn't think about it anymore lol (Kindve had to stop thinking about it until it became natural then start thinking about it again to get it down). My wrist touches my mousepad, my thumb slightly hovers just above mousepad/right below side mouse buttons and claws the mouse, Pointer finger claws the mouse with the very end of/point of finger (Fingernail might slightly touch depending how long it is), Middle and index finger both slightly touch lay halfclaw on right mouse button touching it with fingerprints, index slightly hangs off/touches edge (Middle finger sometimes will touch scroll wheel if my hand slightly adjust a little annoying). pinky bends and points down at mousepad but lays about midway while gripping it with left side of pinky. Probably a pretty solid and decently common mouse grip but idk ppls mousegrips be wild.
The reason why some of these players have their wrist off the mousepad because they were gripping mice that is way larger than their hands could fill because they are young and it stuck with them.
Not that it matters but for the sake of data I'm almost identical to Niko's grip with the third finger pushed just slightly more down so that it's barely touching the mat. My pinky curls as well and gently grazes the mousemat. My wrist sits even with the edge of the desk and then the only other mousemat contact is from my pisiform, I had to look up a hand diagram to learn what it was called but if you check Google images you'll find it. The mouse is not in line with my forearm and has a slight cant to it, I would say a line that splits the mouse lengthwise in two would intersect at roughly halfway between the middle of my wrist and the outside of my wrist. Mouse is a Vaxee XE wireless.
Rambo, would you ever consider doing a Reflections with Thorin? You're one of the first true CS stars (along with Ksharp) that I'd love to see on that show.
hey if i could get a response it would mean alot, So i am a left handed mouse player right, and i play fingertip. I click my Mouse1 button (shoot) with my middle finger, i just wanted to ask would it be more beneficial in the long run performance wise if i switch to shooting with my index finger which is my mouse button 2 as the finger has more dexterity and is like the best finger
@@ronweasly778 when you hold the mouse like that, the corner of the table presses on a very narrow area. This is quite a lot of pressure for our hand. If you do this for a long time and regularly, it causes tunnel syndrome. I know the cause, but I don't know how it works. Probably this pressure squeezes the blood vessels, they are less able to feed the cells and nerves, they start to die and slowly the nerve is destroyed. It is more common in the hand, because there too, the vessels and nerves are squeezed for a long time with mechanical impact. There is the same syndrome with the elbow. It seems that we can get this anywhere from pinching and friction.
Just because they’re top performers doesn’t mean their way of doing this is better. They might be top performers in spite of their twisted mouse grips. But by all means, experiment and see what works for you.
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One thing that I wish we got to see is these grips in motion perfectly synced with gameplay on video, so we can see things like how are they using these grips whilst navigating the maps, throwing utility, dueling, holding angles etc. Just seeing the snapshots of player grips only seems to tell half the story.
2:12 looks like an alien appendage. That's wild.
i would evacuate if i saw it in the wild
I have the same mouse and I sat here trying to replicate it, I call that the early onset arthritis grip
Straight fingers feel very good, but have the disadvantage in vertical scenarios. No problem for CS but other games, just saying.
Not true, just controlling the recoil of the rifles and SMG's adds a dimension of vertical control that is needed. And some of these players play on insanely low sensitivity. Then you add in maps like Nuke, Vertigo, Anubis etc. where there are catwalks, vent shafts, elevated areas and lower than ground level dips in the sites, and you're doing a lot more management of vertical aiming than you may think.
The hand in the thumbnail looks like a horrible ai generated photo 😂
hand gymnastics
2:50 that doesn't even look like human hand lol
Secret has to be not overthinking it and just doing what's natural, These guys definitely are almost all muscle memory with their grip. If they started thinking of how they hold their mouse they wouldn't even know atp.
I've became conscious of my grip bc I would think about it and it would erase my muscle memory then clog my mind. So i started trying to do what was natural and just pay attention so I wouldn't think about it anymore lol (Kindve had to stop thinking about it until it became natural then start thinking about it again to get it down).
My wrist touches my mousepad, my thumb slightly hovers just above mousepad/right below side mouse buttons and claws the mouse, Pointer finger claws the mouse with the very end of/point of finger (Fingernail might slightly touch depending how long it is), Middle and index finger both slightly touch lay halfclaw on right mouse button touching it with fingerprints, index slightly hangs off/touches edge (Middle finger sometimes will touch scroll wheel if my hand slightly adjust a little annoying). pinky bends and points down at mousepad but lays about midway while gripping it with left side of pinky.
Probably a pretty solid and decently common mouse grip but idk ppls mousegrips be wild.
mouse grip totally changes my strengths/weaknesses and range in apex, and is still noticeable but less so in an aim trainer
im glad you're back.
can you make a video of simple's mouse grip please 😊
Basic palm grip with 40,000 hours of mouse use 😂 you’re welcome
@@FaZe-StyL thx😅
The reason why some of these players have their wrist off the mousepad because they were gripping mice that is way larger than their hands could fill because they are young and it stuck with them.
holy i was just search ron Rambo kim the other day
Not that it matters but for the sake of data I'm almost identical to Niko's grip with the third finger pushed just slightly more down so that it's barely touching the mat. My pinky curls as well and gently grazes the mousemat. My wrist sits even with the edge of the desk and then the only other mousemat contact is from my pisiform, I had to look up a hand diagram to learn what it was called but if you check Google images you'll find it. The mouse is not in line with my forearm and has a slight cant to it, I would say a line that splits the mouse lengthwise in two would intersect at roughly halfway between the middle of my wrist and the outside of my wrist. Mouse is a Vaxee XE wireless.
Rambo, would you ever consider doing a Reflections with Thorin? You're one of the first true CS stars (along with Ksharp) that I'd love to see on that show.
He asked me. I'll do it because of your request :)
@@ronrambokim THANK YOU! Been a fan since the syn days. Please talk a lot about the beta / pre 1.6! You’re the man bro
I tried to hold my mouse like swag and gave myself a speech on why palm is superior.
hand in the thumbnail finna have every nerve damage condition in the book
2:12 WHAT THA HEWL BOY
hey if i could get a response it would mean alot, So i am a left handed mouse player right, and i play fingertip. I click my Mouse1 button (shoot) with my middle finger, i just wanted to ask would it be more beneficial in the long run performance wise if i switch to shooting with my index finger which is my mouse button 2 as the finger has more dexterity and is like the best finger
damn haven't seen you on the feed for years!!
Thank You For This Vedio It Did Help Me A Lot .
Glad it helped!
Show us Overwatch players, these CS players havent aimed vertically a day in their life!
It’s so easy to aim horizontally compared to vertically I wonder how good they would do in over watch and other games
@@FaZe-StyL exactly!
4:03 hello tunnel syndrome
Why is this prone to tunnel syndrome compared to the other grips shown? Just curious?
@@ronweasly778 when you hold the mouse like that, the corner of the table presses on a very narrow area. This is quite a lot of pressure for our hand. If you do this for a long time and regularly, it causes tunnel syndrome. I know the cause, but I don't know how it works. Probably this pressure squeezes the blood vessels, they are less able to feed the cells and nerves, they start to die and slowly the nerve is destroyed. It is more common in the hand, because there too, the vessels and nerves are squeezed for a long time with mechanical impact. There is the same syndrome with the elbow. It seems that we can get this anywhere from pinching and friction.
Just because they’re top performers doesn’t mean their way of doing this is better. They might be top performers in spite of their twisted mouse grips. But by all means, experiment and see what works for you.
guy at 2:18 got that circle change grip lol
Just grip the mouse of whatever feels natural to you
no way HLTV copyrights the OG right????
Prx smth grip?
its just a relaxed fingertip
donk is not a sniper. he is probably one of the best if not the best rifle players.
some of these grips looks like people with disabilities, seriously.
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