it's weird how the salt water crocodile is one of the largest predators on earth and a confirmed human eater. But I can't find any documentary footage of them on TH-cam like I can with great white sharks. I guess people aren't brave enough to document a giant crocodile
@@kizzorama and some Crocs were so big him and a team of 13 people couldn't contain it lmao there's videos of people touching unrestrained great white sharks try that with a Saltie shit theres a lady who pushes gws away with her bare hands a salty gonna eat u if u were to try that
Crocodiles kill at least 1000 people worldwide every year. Sharks rarely crack ten. That means crocs are 100x deadlier to humans than sharks but I’ve yet to see croc week on the discovery channel. People are just extremely, somewhat irrationally afraid of sharks.
Easily the best take I've seen on this battle. Glad you brought 3 possible scenarios at the end. You also provided the proper context about how these fights turn out. And I'm not saying this cuz I'm the shark guy. Great video my friend.
This is ridiculous. Shark wins most of the time. 1. Croc would never see the shark coming. 2. The shark is much much faster and a better swimmer. 3. Great whites on average are much bigger and bulkier. 4. The great white sharks bite is much more suitable for the croc’s body than the other way around. The shark has a wide mouth that would easily be able to take a chunk off the crocs body. 4. The shark would meet the croc where he has home field advantage. The croc would be surprised by the attack and try to flee to its destination even faster in a frantic manner, instead of fighting back. Worst take ever.
Misinformation hub though. Most of their matchups were always biased to the most popular animal or used wrong measurements. Like 30 foot anaconda or 7500lb great white 😂
@@loowick4074 Yea I remember that fight as well and despite loving the show at that time, I always saw the Great White v.s. Saltie fight as rigged. 1) The crocodile crippeled the shark, biting off one of its pectoral fins and 2) shortly before the end, the shark and croc sank to the ground with the shark's bottom up. I'm no marine biologist, but wouldn't that cause the tonic immobility of the shark from beeing turned around?
Called it! I too am a crocodile fan, but the Great White is simply too big, too fast and has a warm-blooded metabolism to give it a significant advantage over the croc in a prolonged fight. :)
Yep. Both are apex predators. Both are exceptional because they are both descended from ancestors that have been around since well before dinosaurs even evolved. Both have remained surprisingly similar to their ancient ancestors, and both groups have survived multiple mass extinction events.
The problem for the Croc, is that their entire wincon relies in grabing a specific chunk (usually a significant one) then ripping it off, while the Great White relies more on grabbing any surface it can lay upon then rippung it off. Main difference laying in that, the croc's effective area while a lot stronger, is a lot smaller too, meaning most big chunky and round animals can scape it's jaws relatibly easly (as seen in big enough Sharks as a great white, or a Hippo), meanwhile, the Shark having less range has a far wider area at which it can bite, meaning a great white can put their jaws around another great white and effectibly bite it, while a Crocodile couldnt, since Crocs are more used to bite limbs, heads and necks, while fully aquatic animals just bite whatever they can as hard as they can
I find it interesting that sources will often cite the 2008 bite force study on great whites as proof they have the strongest bite in the animal kingdom, when that study simply extrapolated from the measured bite force of a small great white into what could ‘possibly’ be the bite force of the very largest plausibly sized great white, a 21 foot 6,000 pound behemoth that probably doesn’t even exist. The estimated bite of the giant shark was 4,000 pounds, only 300 pounds more than the directly measured bite force of a 15 foot, 1200 pound captive saltwater crocodile. The same study that measured this croc’s 3700 pound bite also used similar extrapolation calculations based on the direct correlation between croc body mass and bite force to conclude that the very largest modern crocodiles, 20+ foot 3,000 pound monsters, would have a bite force between 6,000-8,000 pounds, absolutely dwarfing the estimates of the very largest great white sharks.
Well yeah evolution doesnt have to explain itself. Sharks especially great whites have really sharp serrated teeth and regardless of their bite force are relying on them to slice and cut chunks off of marine life vs crocodiles who have teeth and a bite force meant to grab and crush/hold things underwater to drown assuming they survived the initial bite. In either case the croc probably would be the defender in this case but at the peak of eachothers power in these scenarios the white shark has enough going for it that if it can land the first hit in great white fashion from underneath the croc would lose but if it is lucky enough to recover from that first hit or land the first hit itself the shark loses
@@johnnyhorsewhale3116 I think terrain is the biggest factor in determining the outcome of this fight. In deep water, the shark has a big advantage, and in the shallows the croc does. I also think that an encounter would be more likely to occur in shallower water, because although crocs have been found swimming in the open ocean, they tend to remain close to the shore. And great whites are often encountered close to the shore, as that’s where their favorite prey is found.
Yeah it would be weird if a shark had a stronger bite force than a crocodile. It doesn't need to, it's teeth aren't meant to crush bones at all and the strength required to take chunks of meat of prey isn't the same as that of holding down and crushing prey.
I recall years ago there was a show called Animal Face Off that had a similar scenario like this. And much like you they ultimately reached the conclusion the Great White Shark wins The Croc would definitely put up an incredible fight but the Shark simply has too much advantage with its better body shape, weight difference and the fact that it doesn't need air. Heck that was how the fight in Animal Face Off concluded. The Croc has to flee to the surface to get air and the Shark takes advantage of this opening to land a critical and fatal blow on the Croc's underbelly Just amusing how 20 years have passed since Animal Face Off and that conclusion is still a valid one
Shark def wins no diff in deep water, but loses every where else. In shallow water, croc wins mid diff, on land? Well croc doesnt even need to do anything 😂
The "air breathing" part confuses me because SaltWater crocodiles can hold their breath for 2-8 hours so unless this fight is lasting an entire say then I don't think the Croc will go up to the surface to breath before ANY of them take actual damage.
I appreciate the video, and a sincere thank you for probably being the first youtuber to do a multi scenario breakdown as opposed to just going straight to record size specimens fighting. I agree on a broad level on your predictions on who would win at equal weights (croc wins) and average and max weights (shark wins both of those), but I don't agree with the percentage breakdown you gave on the equal weight scenario. (Apologies in advance for the lengthy comment to come) You predicted at equal weights that the croc would win 55-60% of the time. Honestly that's way too close to a coin flip and thus is far too generous to the shark. At equal weights the croc would bully the shark, for several reasons. The main reason, which you did not get into, is that at equal weights the croc should have a very very significant strength advantage. This is partly because in a broad sense, terrestrial animals are stronger than aquatic animals at equal weights; for the simple fact that they have to support their weight under gravity whereas aquatic animals are assisted by buoyancy (there's a study that confirms this as well and I'm trying to find it again, but it should be common sense regardless). But this is also for the specific fact of the crocodile's anatomy: Crocodiles are noted in autopsies to have very small organs relative to their size. This is important because the vast majority of a croc's weight thus comes from it's skeleto-muscular build. The same can't be said for the great white. Afterall its liver alone can be 25% of its weight. And its other organs are pretty big too, like its stomach and kidneys are pretty big too if you look at this diagram: o.quizlet.com/uBZ81GPGp45e9AgB52xqsg_b.png. So if you see how much of the great white's body cavity is taken up by organs, it becomes clear that adding everything up its organs alone maybe take up more than 1/3 of its body weight. On the other hand, again, crocodiles have very tiny vital organs relative to its body size, (as talked about in the crocodile episode of 'Inside Nature's Giants' Docuseries, where they dissect a dead nile crocodile and observe its anatomy). So the vast majority of a crocodile's weight comes from muscle and bone. So a 1300 lb crocodile, is going to have a lot more 'useful' weight when it comes to power and strength than a 1300 lbs great white would. Besides the obvious strength advantage that a croc would have over a shark at equal weights, it would also have a serious weaponry advantage at weight parity. At equal weights a croc's jaws and teeth would absolutely dwarf that of a shark's. Make a scale of a 16 foot crocodile and a 13 foot great white, and you'll see this. At that length disparity you would have animals that weigh about the same. And it is clear how much dimensionally larger the croc appears at equal weights. (It's a similar visual/ratio to a 5'9 guy fighting a 7 foot guy, where they both happen to weigh the same.) The croc's jaws would easily fit the shark's jaws in it--comfortably--at those lengths. That reach advantage would be insane and extremely hard for the shark to counter in a fight. The croc can comfortably turn to bite the shark on the snout with that extreme reach advantage with the shark not being able to bite back. Another thing, is that at equal weights, the shark is going to feel extremely light to the crocodile. Check out this link for example: www.elasmo-research.org/education/white_shark/digestion.htm Here's an interesting quote: "US Navy researcher H. David Baldridge revealed that a 1015-pound (461-kilogram) Tiger Shark (Galeocerdo cuvier) had an apparent weight in seawater of only 7.3 pounds (3.3 kilograms) - a reduction of over 99%! Thanks largely to its oily liver" So the same liver that gives a shark its great buoyancy, would also make it feel very light in the water. As the quote says, a 1015 lb tiger shark would only feel like it weighs about 7 lbs in sea water! So a 1300 lb crocodile, once it has a grip on a 1300 lb shark, would absolutely shake the hell out of it like a rag doll. That stress alone could kill the shark. Afterall when sharks are overly stressed, they have a tendency of 'throwing up' their stomach (since their stomachs are right behind their mouths), and you see this with a lot of captured great whites, the stress of capture often makes their stomach eject right into its mouth. As for the open water vs shallow water, there is a medium point. 20-25 foot clear coastal water is more than enough for a shark to swim with full mobility, but not deep enough for it to simply disappear into dark depths and then sneak attack the croc at a later time when the latter has lost interest (I don't consider that a fight tactic anyway, that's akin to ambush). I don't think that's something a shark would tactically think of anyway. We're attributing too much human thinking into that. A shark wouldn't think of that. If a shark is having a problem with a rival predator near the surface, it would simply retreat. It's not going to think like "Oh, this thing turns very quickly and its jaws are much longer than mine, I can't find an opening face to face. Let me disappear into the depths and sneak attack it again when it thinks I'm gone". The shark is not capable of that kind of thinking. As soon as it meets resistance in a fight, its going to retreat period. So yeah, in a weight parity, no matter the water depth, I see the croc winning handily. In deep water the shark would retreat after its clear that it won't win. In shallower coastal water, there is a greater chance the shark might be outright killed because it won't be able to hide in the depths. It would have to retreat further out, using its greater straight line speed to get away.
I wanted to do a follow up to my post; Regarding the land animal vs aquatic animal strength topic I brought up. While I didn't find the direct study, I did find a pdf of the June 2015 edition of the American Cetacean Society where the study is cited. Here is what it said: "Overall, though having greater absolute strength, large whales aren’t that strong relative to their size when compared to some land animals. For example, an elephant, the largest of the terrestrial mammals, cited by the study had a total body mass of 2,500 kg. It produced a force while running of 27 kN. “A young minke whale has a similar total body mass but is calculated to produce a force of only 6.4 kN,” says Mr Logan. “A buffalo had a total body mass of 500 kg and produced a force of 12 kN. In comparison a small pilot whale is calculated to produce only 2.7kN of force.” “The difference in force output between the terrestrial and marine mammals illustrates a fundamental difference in the kinds of selective pressures these animals are exposed to,” Mr Logan told BBC Earth. Land animals need to use their skeleton and muscles to support their body mass against the force of gravity, for example, whereas marine mammals are supported by the buoyant force of water." So as I said, the study acknowledges that land animals need greater strength of muscle and bone to support their own weight against gravity (and any other forces that get assisted by gravity) and it brings up a couple of examples at parity. An elephant can produce over 4x the force of an equal mass Minke Whale and likewise a buffalo can produce over 4x the force of an equal mass Pilot Whale. That is a massive strength difference. Now while crocodile's are semi aquatic, they do spend about half their time on land and are extremely well designed to express strength and power (again their extremely small organs meaning a higher percentage of weight dedicated to muscle and bone) and they express this by being able to contend with equal size buffalo in strength even on land. Hell there is even an account of a large Nile Crocodile drowning a Black Rhino in shallow water! And it did that by being strong enough to hold the rhino's head down in the water until its nostrils couldn't take in any more water. That is a massive strength feat for a crocodile considering the rhino was an adult and would have been heavier. So yeah, I think it's clear that with the croc being a terrestrial capable animal with great adaptations for strength and explosiveness, would overpower a similar size shark handily --especially since, on top of being strictly aquatic, the shark also has a huge chunk of its weight taken up by vital organs as opposed skeleto-muscular weight. Hell, we already have several videos of green sea turtles being able to outmaneuver and fight back against tiger sharks and chase them off (whereas saltwater crocodiles pretty easily kill such turtles at sea without much of a struggle from the turtle), so that's already a pretty damning display of a shark's rotational/fighting capability--and a croc is of course much more agile and explosive than a sea turtle. So yeah, in short, I greatly favor a 1000-1300 lb crocodile over any shark of equal weight. Edit: There's actually one more strong piece of evidence of crocodiles being stronger animals than sharks at parity. And it comes from a shark expert himself: th-cam.com/video/1j3jEF9GNB8/w-d-xo.html In this 2016 documentary called Jungle Shark, shark expert Dr. Craig O'Connell and a few other people wrangled an american croc to collect a pheromone sample from it to see how bull sharks react to the scent. And this is how Dr. Craig reacted to the difficulty of the trying to hold down the croc with the group; he said "I mean I've wrangled 10 foot great white sharks, tagged them, released them. But working with this crocodile was such an intense experience that I'm absolutely exhausted right now." And when asked about it on twitter/x he responded that wrangling the croc was 'way harder' than wrangling the 10 foot great white: twitter.com/TheSharkDoctor/status/1376867465683173377 So there you go, even a shark scientist points to a crocodile being the stronger animal pound for pound. What's interesting to note is that the american crocodile that they jumped on in the documentary was hardly a monster...it looks like it was no more than 11 feet itself. And yet Dr. Craig still said it was a way more exhausting experience than against the 10 foot great white.
I have to mention that 460 kg Salties have been known to produce 16.000 newtons, not even a full grown male and less than half of the largest confirmed individuals.
It's hard to think about a fight between a great white shark and saltwater crocodile. I mean, yes great whites and salties have overlapping territories but it usually seems that they avoid each other or just prefer their own hunting grounds. In a battle, it's a no contest. Sharks is a pursuit predator and highly curious whilst crocs usually stay motionless until whatever they see gets close to it. If shark happens to get close to croc, croc would react and shark would flee. Sharks have fast reflexes so yeah it would escape. What if shark is hungry and spots croc? A shark tries to find angles and goes at high speeds to get it but if croc sees shark, it will pose up and shark would flee because some prey is challenging shark
16460 N is the bite force of a 15 foot long crocodile, which does not represent the largest of the saltwater crocodiles. A 2012 study by scientist Gregory Erickson calculated the bite force of a full-sized crocodile (20 to 23 feet for 1 to 1.5 tons) and it came up with a result of 2.8 to 3.5 tons of pressure in the jaws of crocodiles of these dimensions. If we compare this result with that of the 2008 study, a saltwater crocodile of maximum size always has more force in the jaw than a white shark of maximum size.
@Abdul_Mossad I'm just saying that a large crocodile has a more powerful bite than a white shark, I'm not saying that a saltwater crocodile is "stronger" than a white shark. Indeed, I find it hard to see a crocodile (even a large one) managing to catch and kill a white shark in the open sea. The white shark is simply faster and more agile, it just needs to adopt the same hunting technique as with the sea lions (attack from below) and it can mortally injure the croc in a single blow. Even in shallow water, it would be extremely difficult for the croc to catch the shark (because of its speed and power). His best chance would be to grab the white shark by the snout or gills and immobilize it to drown it. Given the strength and liveliness of the white shark, I agree that the white shark is nevertheless more advantaged in a hypothetical fight with a crocodile.
‘A battle between the two would go for around 30 minutes’ How did you come up with that one? I’m afraid to say much of this is not backed by science but rather personal beliefs.
I have seen most people on YT say the croc easily wins but I'm glad you gave the shark respect here. Sharks are m favorite animals so I'm happy to see you give an unbiased analysis of this battle. Literally every important factor to consider was mentioned. I agree that shark wins in deep water and croc wins in shallow water.
Honestly that's the best video I've seen about this battle between great white shark and salt water crocodile very detailed well profound explanation is accurate, I learn more about it . thanks for this video bro ❤❤❤😊
I agree wholeheartedly with you, both are very VERY intelligent. Like, so smart it’s scary. Thanks for crediting them, most people think they’re dumb, so this was great to see!
Without watching the video, I assume he points out it depends largely on the environment. The deeper the water, the advantage goes to the shark. The shallower the water, the advantage goes to the croc.
a shark can wound heavily a crocodile, even taking out a few limbs if it lands a good couple of bites but will likely be unable to straight up kill a croc, but if a single bite of a croc lands, the shark is straight up gone
Yea, but too bad math isn’t in your favor, the dimensions of a great white sharks gape is more than large enough to, put bluntly, bite any crocodile in half, even the largest ones. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m betting most can agree a salt water crocodile isn’t getting its mouth around a damn thing, seeing as white sharks can get as stacked as minivans.
I don't know, bro. Sounds reasonable, but big sharks tend to be slower and less active. I believe they are more of scavengers than active predators. Also, sharks are easily spooked and do not engage in long fights with other sharks or prey animals. All of their fights seem to involve giving one bite (not even the strongest one as they are capable of doing way more damage than we see on thought-bitten sharks) on a smaller shark and then kind of chasing it away. Don't get me wrong, you have done a great job, but I do not fully agree with your conclusions. I don't think they'd fight to the death, with the most likely scenario being a crocodile giving a bite and chasing the shark away. But if they were to fight to the death, I'd put my money on the saltie. Also, I believe they can get heavier than Lolong, and he is only the biggest we have accurately measured. There are some different estimations, with some putting max crocs at above 1500 or even 2200 kgs, but I am not so sure about it. At least the longest ever measured croc should be heavier?
Samething I said. It's prof that sharks do not like to fight especially when their getting attacked. Crocs on the other hand will eat and chase down anything, they are a real predator, man eaters. Crocs even eat there own kind after a death battle. But people wanna put the Croc in the middle of the Ocean to battle a Shark 😂😂😂 why not 20 to 30 feet of water where the croc can chill at the bottom
exactly... a shark would not engage in confrontation with a croc but crocs will hunt anything, if you fall in the water with a croc it will chase you and try to eat you it doesn't matter if you're a seal or a tiger. Great Whites get bullied by dolphins, a croc would 100% destroy a great white.
A fight to the death would just be a great white shark going for the kill against an unsuspecting saltie. The GW wouldn't fight to the death because it would never get to that point. There's no 'weak bite'. It's not a boxing ring. It's the ocean, and a great white is an ambush predator with perpetual home field advantage.
Just a curious question. Why exactly do you give the agility and length advantage to the crocodile? Great whites are very agile in deep water and generally grow longer than salties.
@@migueljardim8177 Did purussaurus swim in the open ocean? Because we know that deinosuchus preferred to live in estuaries and likely encountered mosasaurs.
@@xanshen9011 Purusaurus is a giant Caiman like crocodilian, so its mostly spend its time on swamps and river, we dont know if they have special adaptation like salty to tolerate sea water
What does that have to do with literally anything? The crocodile is going to get blitzed by the great white shark, not to mention the great white weighing almost as much as 3 of the largest crocodile combined. Lizards and reptiles like the crocodile also can have a lactic acid build up if the start moving or exhausting themselves too much… This match up isn’t even close.
The Croc is a Living Dinosaur. Literally 😂. The sharks has no chance if they're round the same size. Plus the Croc have a armored skin. Plus is a shark lost a fin it most likely would die or couldn't survive. A Croc can live and thrive with missing limbs. Croc ALL DAY
Nah it's very distant to dinosaurs,birds are living dinosaur's,not Crocs,and also lol Crocs underbelly would undoubtedly make it an ez kill for a great white!
Crocs are slow. Shark too fast however if the shark stays too long on the inside trying to get a decent bite croc might turn the tables around very quickly
man i will pay for both david attenborough and the kratt brothers to do an episode about this fight and since we already have both great white and crocodile creature power suits i would love to see pbs making that episode either! and also bbc
The croc stands no chance if you understand both creatures. Your setting is the ocean so the shark is coming from below and the croc is getting fucked up in one bite. The shark would land a bite and would wait on the crocs blood loss to finish it off when half dead. The crocs armour is no match for the bite force and razor sharp teeth. It's a one and done. You think the croc has more agility go watch a great white chase a seal it's very close on agility and sometimes the shark wins. The only chance a croc would have is a head on and if it could get purchase it may be able to tire the shark by holding on. It's definitely not biting the fins of lol as the shark won't stay around to let it. The croc would be toast in the open ocean as it hunts on the surface.
Id give it to the crocodile cause neither can really attack the body of the other, but the crocodile can easily live without a couple of legs but a shark cant live without even one fin most of the time
I like Crocs as well and salties are very impressive beasts, however I think in open ocean it's a no contest, the Shark is much faster, and attacks unsuspecting prey from below with a powerful burst of energy that can carry the white shark 20ft in the air and send a 500kg sea lion flying into the air, no way something is shaking that off, even a saltie. that said I think if the croc could somehow land a bite on the shark it would be damaging, but they would struggle to bite down on anything vital, and the shark is much more maneuverable and is also warm blooded, so it can maintain speed and combat for longer... also, Great whites prefer to hunt in shallow water, hence the relatively common contact with humans so I don't think the tables turn in this environment. I think that in general though, a White would only attack juveniles in an exploratory manner, if it were splashing on the surface... idk maybe an adult in the right circumstances. however I only see a mature saltie predating on juvenile whites, I don't think it's big or fast enough to kill an adult white shark... heck even a single orca (more than double the weight and much larger) fails to prey on white sharks, they have to use team work to catch the shark. In this event the shark swims in an evasive pattern away from the jaws of the incoming orca and maintains distance with its greater speed and maneuverability... If an orca can't pull it off, a saltie would need to go up for air after exhausting itself andddd BOOM. Still loved the video as always though!
Strength for Great Whites I disagree with, they're about equal and a Saltie's intelligence is insanely good. They've been known to keep track of where hunters usually frequent, the time they go there and so on. Their pattern analyses are something else. Edit: a Saltie if they rip off the fins of the GW, would most definitely win regardless of the weight, it's more damage done to the GW than if the GW bites off the croc's arms/legs. They will have trouble swimming, moreso than the croc. And the 3rd scenario of their most reliable weight; I think you're underestimating the croc because the croc doesn't need to have a good bite grip onto the GW's body, they can just bite the nose of the shark off anyways, leaving it bleeding to death whereas the GW will have trouble penetrating the armor of the croc.
Therefore, the GW can die from massive blood loss or by drowning. The Saltie can of course die from these, too, but the chances of the GW pulling it off I would state is much lower. See for example, Brutus of the Adelaide River if I remember correctly. One of the biggest Salties on record, but he only has 1 arm and yet he swims totally fine.
Nile crocs are the ones remembering patterns, not salties, and a great white's pattern is utterly irrelevant here. The saltie HAS TO breathe. It WILL approach the surface, and then it will die.
Theirs a video of a large croc head washed up on shore in Australia and scientists said it looks like a large white shark took it just behind the head at a weak point
No. That was in south africa. And the croc was estimated to only be 3 meters long. Also, a shark researcher named Mike Heithaus said there were more questions than answers from that beached head, and that it could have easily been skin hunters or even a boat propeller that beheaded it
I'm not sure what you mean by battle. Sharks are actually scared of getting wounds so a great white's main strategy is just hit and run. They don't actually stay there and keep fighting taking hits, they simply do a critical hit and then let bleeding take effect.
Sharks are able to take some pretty nasty hits but I would say a crocodile has better resistances to that type of damage. Something that could probably turn the tide of the battle
@@urekmazino6800 I guess it depends on where the battle starts. Cause what’s really fair about a sneak attack? Cause let’s say a crocodile gets the first hit from behind then that’s not really fair
The battle would ALWAYS start with the GW attacking. A saltie is never going to ambush it because it does not hunt prey that big that far out in the sea, and a GW doesn't approach a coast unless there are seals present, avoiding shallow water even then. But a saltie DOES venture out into the sea, typically swimming close to the surface, placing it in exactly the sort of spot you do not want to be in against a GW.@@achimpanzee9210
@@Not-Kobe In fact, crocodile has many more advantages. It is much better protected, it has unique maneuverable buoyancy, its viewing sector is larger etc
I agree with the end result of the 3 concluded hypothesis. However, I can't accept the Salty's low winrate in each match. I don't think we've understood how detrimental it is for the Shark to have it's fin and tail bitten off. most sharks have a mechanical flaw in their design making them only able to breathe when they swim. So in a prolonged match where no instakill or crit hits occurred, a Salty would definitly bite them off. At that moment aside from losing it's speed and agility, the shark will also lose it's breath and therefore die. So with that in mind I can only surmise that it'd be more deserving if the winrates in order would be around 65-75, 55-60, and 65.
And yet there are photos and video of sharks with one fin missing that are still actively swimming and hunting.... this would indicate it's not an immediately fatal injury. Certainly likely to lower their life expectancy, but not a death blow by any means.... shark is very likely to bugger-off at that point though I reckon.
@@BullDogBreed75 Thats bcuz irl confrontations retreat is always an option, why do you think every predators successful hunt rate are so low? This isn't one of those situations so imagine continuing to box Mike Tyson with a dislocared arm. See how well that goes
@@mystics12 Problem I have with the whole argument is the un-natural conditions of the "fight". If the shark bites first the croc is in trouble and/ or dead. If the croc bites first it apparently auto-wins by surgically removing all the sharks fins...Nature isn't that predictable. Crocs kill big prey primarily by drowning it, sharks by inflicting devastating injuries that result in either blood loss and/ or destruction of vital organs. My money is on the shark in open water, it's how they kill that counts. Croc is highly unlikely to be able to drown the shark unless it completely immobilises it, but shark bites are insanely damaging, even to a croc. Crocs are tanks for sure, but even they have only so much blood.
@@BullDogBreed75 That is only in the event of a well placed bite though. I don't deny the sharks devastating bite, but a croc of similar proportions isn't exactly a bite size snack. Brawls often happen among great whites, and the bites at best did some markings on the side. Not to mention that prey who are bitten often fight back and escape, let alone a Salty. The scenario you have in mind have ONLY accounted for critical and ista-kill hits which if you read correctly I've specifically mentioned aside since it's a full on face off.
@@mystics12 Fair enough. Honestly, while it is an interesting topic of discussion, the basis for the "fight" is reliant on both animals acting in a very abnormal way, so the outcome would be pure conjecture either way. While I could see an adult of either species going after a juvenile from the other, it seems highly improbable that two adults would ever face off as described. Everything relies on which animal bites first, where that bite lands and how effectively it lands it. I do think, in most cases a full grown GW (in open water) has the advantage... it's method of killing lends itself to the situation better than a crocs. Not to mention the way the jaws of each species works, and the girth of the target. Shark jaws operate differently to a crocs, they are very good at taking bites from large prey of significant girth (whales for example). Croc jaws are very much designed to clamp and hold. Both can apply huge pressure, but the shark tooth design converts that pressure into a massively damaging wound in a way a crocs jaws just don't do. Short of a "lucky" hit to a vital area, the croc is highly unlikely to be able to drown the shark... but the shark doesn't need to drown the croc, it's bite damage is so severe that the croc will weaken very quickly (not to mention croc physiology doesn't lend itself to a protracted engagement, they build up lactic acid too quickly).
How is it that I didn't realize that you are a croc fan until when you said it?! Anyways, I like your formatting with the scenarios. Really shows the full picture.
I honestly think this match isn't as close as people think. Great Whites are just so much stronger. People always say "Bull sharks are eaten by Salties all the time", ignoring the fact that Bull sharks are usually young, are much smaller, and no where near as active as a Great White. They swim much faster, and their warm blood gives them a much higher edge in terms of stamina. A Croc isn't getting a single bite in because the Shark has the electic sense to avoid trouble, and it has much higher bursts of speed to counteract any sudden movements. A Saltie vs a Tiger Shark would be a much closer fight.
i would probably increase the shark winrate in open waters, but i agree with the shallow water one, maybe even increasing the croc winrate a bit considering the shark would have trouble building up speed and the agility of the croc gaining more advantage.
8:50 stop lying dude! Sundarban tigers are much smaller and that was a tigress as well so impossible for it to be anywhere close to 500 lbs. The croc wasn't also measured or estimated. If the weight was this close, the croc would have no chance.
I simply think that the fight would end.Because even though the crocodile bite is much stronger normally it drowns its victims.. And that's probably not going to happen with a shark They both should split if they see an orca
@@Distix-uz8qr The average male orca wouldn't even come close to Lolong, Dominator, Brutus, Gustave. This is why even 4 m Salties swim normally in the ocean between Australia, the Cocos Islands and New Zealand.
Crocodile would only be able to bite the fins. Cant get their chompers round the main part of the shark. I know crocs have tough skin but take into account mating damage in whites
Depends where the fight happens. In the crocodiles advantage it would SLAM in the wide ocean the shark would win. Overall Imma give it to the crocodile, although that’s very debatable
I think all these scenarios always depend on who gets the first bite and where. In open water i think the shark has a greater chance at landing a clean bite, but if the croc gets a hold of a fin i think the shark is in big trouble. Better yet, if a saltie lands a bite on the crocs nose. Sharks are made of primarily cartilage. Shark face could cave in after a clean bite on the face.
Jusy fyi so far the saltwater crock has the 3rd strongest bite, with the great white being stronger as you mentioned. Salt water around 16k nm, great white being arpund 18k nm and at the top the orca, around 85k nm!
This is a sheer mismatch considering their sizes. Growth rate studies on Great white sharks indicates that average females reach the asymptote growth rate at about ~6 meters in length, which is much greater in length and especially mass than the average asymptotic male saltwater crocodile at a TL of 4.9 meters.
How would you get these two animals to fight each other? I think a fight between them is virtually impossible, so how can you even determine who would win? Great White's are the King of the sea only potentially beat by the Orca. The Salties ar Kings of rivers, lakes and estuaries. You would probably think that the closer to land the more Salties would have the edge, and the closer to the sea the more the Great White's would have the edge. Both are vulnerable on their belly, and likely whoever bites first wins. Here the Great White's speed and size would give it the edge, but closer to land the agility and armor of the Salties would give it the edge there. So who wins? I think it depends on where they are fighting, but they are not likely to ever fight. I agree with your conclusion that with same size and around the land the Salties has the edge, but in average or greater size and open ocean the edge would go to the Great White.
"16k newtons the highest recorded of any animal ever." (That equates to about 3.4k PSI)... Orca's biteforce is 84k newtons. (19k PSI) It isn't even close to the salt water crocs... Why add in a blatant falsity?
@@faizedfr Yep crocs are only capable of ambush attacks on gazelles and death rolls, none of which would work on the GWS. Not only the size of the GWS, but also the speed, power and 300 fang shaped teeth would give the croc a lot of problems.
@@Romulan2469 yeah. Also, I think great whites grow over 30,000 teeth in their lifetime, do Crocs only have one pair or do they also regrow teeth? I don't remember
@@faizedfr They can regrow teeth as well. I believe the limit is 50 times per tooth. They can get through over 3000 teeth in their entire lifetime. Great white sharks don’t have a limit on the number of times a tooth gets replaced. They literally have a conveyor belt of never ending replacement teeth.
When it comes to a fight between these two, it comes down to the depth of the water. If it’s really deep, the shark takes the match. If it’s moderately deep then it can be a coin toss, if it’s slightly deep - croc no diffs
I have a question for the makers of this video. Here is my question: who do you think would win a head to head one on one fight to the death between a Black Caiman and a Bengal tiger. Could you please state your opinion as to which animal would win this fight and why? Could you please give reasons to support your answer. I await your reply.
I have a question for the maker of this video. Here is my question: who do you think would win a head to head one on one fight to the death between a Black Caiman and a Bengal tiger. Could you please state your opinion as to which animal would win this fight and why? Could you please give reasons to support your answer. I await your reply.
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it's weird how the salt water crocodile is one of the largest predators on earth and a confirmed human eater. But I can't find any documentary footage of them on TH-cam like I can with great white sharks. I guess people aren't brave enough to document a giant crocodile
Google Steve Irwin
It helps that you have less visibility and space in murky water to escape the giant saltie.
@@kizzorama and some Crocs were so big him and a team of 13 people couldn't contain it lmao there's videos of people touching unrestrained great white sharks try that with a Saltie shit theres a lady who pushes gws away with her bare hands a salty gonna eat u if u were to try that
Gustave is a tale that will confirm all of that.
Crocodiles kill at least 1000 people worldwide every year. Sharks rarely crack ten. That means crocs are 100x deadlier to humans than sharks but I’ve yet to see croc week on the discovery channel. People are just extremely, somewhat irrationally afraid of sharks.
Mosasaurus vs megaladon but on budget
Not really since mosasaurs close relative of monitor lizard
mosasaurus weren't crocs, crocs haven't really changed that much other than size after all. mosaurus are closer to lizards.
More like Deinosuchus
Obviously mosasaurus isn't a croc, it's just another popular fight between a large shark and a swimming reptile
Easily the best take I've seen on this battle. Glad you brought 3 possible scenarios at the end. You also provided the proper context about how these fights turn out. And I'm not saying this cuz I'm the shark guy. Great video my friend.
Thanks brother!
This is ridiculous.
Shark wins most of the time.
1. Croc would never see the shark coming.
2. The shark is much much faster and a better swimmer.
3. Great whites on average are much bigger and bulkier.
4. The great white sharks bite is much more suitable for the croc’s body than the other way around. The shark has a wide mouth that would easily be able to take a chunk off the crocs body.
4. The shark would meet the croc where he has home field advantage. The croc would be surprised by the attack and try to flee to its destination even faster in a frantic manner, instead of fighting back.
Worst take ever.
Who else saw the Animal Face-Off episode featuring the croc and the shark years ago on Discovery Channel?
I did, I love that show, Animal Face-Off! The fights in that show are awesome!
Good times back when discovery channel wasn’t trash
Misinformation hub though.
Most of their matchups were always biased to the most popular animal or used wrong measurements.
Like 30 foot anaconda or 7500lb great white 😂
@@loowick4074 Yea I remember that fight as well and despite loving the show at that time, I always saw the Great White v.s. Saltie fight as rigged. 1) The crocodile crippeled the shark, biting off one of its pectoral fins and 2) shortly before the end, the shark and croc sank to the ground with the shark's bottom up. I'm no marine biologist, but wouldn't that cause the tonic immobility of the shark from beeing turned around?
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Called it! I too am a crocodile fan, but the Great White is simply too big, too fast and has a warm-blooded metabolism to give it a significant advantage over the croc in a prolonged fight. :)
7:37 how can you say no to that lovable smile?
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Saltwater Crocodile and Great White Shark are interesting creatures on earth to think about
Yep.
Both are apex predators. Both are exceptional because they are both descended from ancestors that have been around since well before dinosaurs even evolved. Both have remained surprisingly similar to their ancient ancestors, and both groups have survived multiple mass extinction events.
The problem for the Croc, is that their entire wincon relies in grabing a specific chunk (usually a significant one) then ripping it off, while the Great White relies more on grabbing any surface it can lay upon then rippung it off. Main difference laying in that, the croc's effective area while a lot stronger, is a lot smaller too, meaning most big chunky and round animals can scape it's jaws relatibly easly (as seen in big enough Sharks as a great white, or a Hippo), meanwhile, the Shark having less range has a far wider area at which it can bite, meaning a great white can put their jaws around another great white and effectibly bite it, while a Crocodile couldnt, since Crocs are more used to bite limbs, heads and necks, while fully aquatic animals just bite whatever they can as hard as they can
In conclusion, it's a bad Match up for the croc the bigger and rounder the neck is
Ty count croc.
I find it interesting that sources will often cite the 2008 bite force study on great whites as proof they have the strongest bite in the animal kingdom, when that study simply extrapolated from the measured bite force of a small great white into what could ‘possibly’ be the bite force of the very largest plausibly sized great white, a 21 foot 6,000 pound behemoth that probably doesn’t even exist. The estimated bite of the giant shark was 4,000 pounds, only 300 pounds more than the directly measured bite force of a 15 foot, 1200 pound captive saltwater crocodile. The same study that measured this croc’s 3700 pound bite also used similar extrapolation calculations based on the direct correlation between croc body mass and bite force to conclude that the very largest modern crocodiles, 20+ foot 3,000 pound monsters, would have a bite force between 6,000-8,000 pounds, absolutely dwarfing the estimates of the very largest great white sharks.
Well yeah evolution doesnt have to explain itself. Sharks especially great whites have really sharp serrated teeth and regardless of their bite force are relying on them to slice and cut chunks off of marine life vs crocodiles who have teeth and a bite force meant to grab and crush/hold things underwater to drown assuming they survived the initial bite. In either case the croc probably would be the defender in this case but at the peak of eachothers power in these scenarios the white shark has enough going for it that if it can land the first hit in great white fashion from underneath the croc would lose but if it is lucky enough to recover from that first hit or land the first hit itself the shark loses
@@johnnyhorsewhale3116 I think terrain is the biggest factor in determining the outcome of this fight. In deep water, the shark has a big advantage, and in the shallows the croc does. I also think that an encounter would be more likely to occur in shallower water, because although crocs have been found swimming in the open ocean, they tend to remain close to the shore. And great whites are often encountered close to the shore, as that’s where their favorite prey is found.
Yeah it would be weird if a shark had a stronger bite force than a crocodile. It doesn't need to, it's teeth aren't meant to crush bones at all and the strength required to take chunks of meat of prey isn't the same as that of holding down and crushing prey.
i mostly agree with you but i think it would be 55%
The croc could literally fit in the sharks mouth dude
@@HellLord0931 no? The shark if were going on max size is a lot bigger
@@Kevintherhea188 reread what I said
This is much more detail-oriented than the _Animal Face-Off_ episode, not to mention far more advanced in research! Well done!
I recall years ago there was a show called Animal Face Off that had a similar scenario like this.
And much like you they ultimately reached the conclusion the Great White Shark wins
The Croc would definitely put up an incredible fight but the Shark simply has too much advantage with its better body shape, weight difference and the fact that it doesn't need air.
Heck that was how the fight in Animal Face Off concluded. The Croc has to flee to the surface to get air and the Shark takes advantage of this opening to land a critical and fatal blow on the Croc's underbelly
Just amusing how 20 years have passed since Animal Face Off and that conclusion is still a valid one
Shark def wins no diff in deep water, but loses every where else.
In shallow water, croc wins mid diff, on land? Well croc doesnt even need to do anything 😂
The "air breathing" part confuses me because SaltWater crocodiles can hold their breath for 2-8 hours so unless this fight is lasting an entire say then I don't think the Croc will go up to the surface to breath before ANY of them take actual damage.
Gods that show was awesome so nostalgic. A newer more updated version of that would be awesome.
@@bossturner9540But that's in a docile, relaxed state. If they are swimming fast and fighting for their lives they'd need air pretty quickly.
The show was mid it showed that a lion defeated tiger
5:12 that picture 🤣
A saltwater crocodile would easily win against a great white shark
I appreciate the video, and a sincere thank you for probably being the first youtuber to do a multi scenario breakdown as opposed to just going straight to record size specimens fighting. I agree on a broad level on your predictions on who would win at equal weights (croc wins) and average and max weights (shark wins both of those), but I don't agree with the percentage breakdown you gave on the equal weight scenario. (Apologies in advance for the lengthy comment to come) You predicted at equal weights that the croc would win 55-60% of the time. Honestly that's way too close to a coin flip and thus is far too generous to the shark. At equal weights the croc would bully the shark, for several reasons. The main reason, which you did not get into, is that at equal weights the croc should have a very very significant strength advantage. This is partly because in a broad sense, terrestrial animals are stronger than aquatic animals at equal weights; for the simple fact that they have to support their weight under gravity whereas aquatic animals are assisted by buoyancy (there's a study that confirms this as well and I'm trying to find it again, but it should be common sense regardless). But this is also for the specific fact of the crocodile's anatomy: Crocodiles are noted in autopsies to have very small organs relative to their size. This is important because the vast majority of a croc's weight thus comes from it's skeleto-muscular build. The same can't be said for the great white. Afterall its liver alone can be 25% of its weight. And its other organs are pretty big too, like its stomach and kidneys are pretty big too if you look at this diagram: o.quizlet.com/uBZ81GPGp45e9AgB52xqsg_b.png. So if you see how much of the great white's body cavity is taken up by organs, it becomes clear that adding everything up its organs alone maybe take up more than 1/3 of its body weight. On the other hand, again, crocodiles have very tiny vital organs relative to its body size, (as talked about in the crocodile episode of 'Inside Nature's Giants' Docuseries, where they dissect a dead nile crocodile and observe its anatomy). So the vast majority of a crocodile's weight comes from muscle and bone. So a 1300 lb crocodile, is going to have a lot more 'useful' weight when it comes to power and strength than a 1300 lbs great white would. Besides the obvious strength advantage that a croc would have over a shark at equal weights, it would also have a serious weaponry advantage at weight parity. At equal weights a croc's jaws and teeth would absolutely dwarf that of a shark's. Make a scale of a 16 foot crocodile and a 13 foot great white, and you'll see this. At that length disparity you would have animals that weigh about the same. And it is clear how much dimensionally larger the croc appears at equal weights. (It's a similar visual/ratio to a 5'9 guy fighting a 7 foot guy, where they both happen to weigh the same.) The croc's jaws would easily fit the shark's jaws in it--comfortably--at those lengths. That reach advantage would be insane and extremely hard for the shark to counter in a fight. The croc can comfortably turn to bite the shark on the snout with that extreme reach advantage with the shark not being able to bite back. Another thing, is that at equal weights, the shark is going to feel extremely light to the crocodile. Check out this link for example: www.elasmo-research.org/education/white_shark/digestion.htm Here's an interesting quote: "US Navy researcher H. David Baldridge revealed that a 1015-pound (461-kilogram) Tiger Shark (Galeocerdo cuvier) had an apparent weight in seawater of only 7.3 pounds (3.3 kilograms) - a reduction of over 99%! Thanks largely to its oily liver" So the same liver that gives a shark its great buoyancy, would also make it feel very light in the water. As the quote says, a 1015 lb tiger shark would only feel like it weighs about 7 lbs in sea water! So a 1300 lb crocodile, once it has a grip on a 1300 lb shark, would absolutely shake the hell out of it like a rag doll. That stress alone could kill the shark. Afterall when sharks are overly stressed, they have a tendency of 'throwing up' their stomach (since their stomachs are right behind their mouths), and you see this with a lot of captured great whites, the stress of capture often makes their stomach eject right into its mouth. As for the open water vs shallow water, there is a medium point. 20-25 foot clear coastal water is more than enough for a shark to swim with full mobility, but not deep enough for it to simply disappear into dark depths and then sneak attack the croc at a later time when the latter has lost interest (I don't consider that a fight tactic anyway, that's akin to ambush). I don't think that's something a shark would tactically think of anyway. We're attributing too much human thinking into that. A shark wouldn't think of that. If a shark is having a problem with a rival predator near the surface, it would simply retreat. It's not going to think like "Oh, this thing turns very quickly and its jaws are much longer than mine, I can't find an opening face to face. Let me disappear into the depths and sneak attack it again when it thinks I'm gone". The shark is not capable of that kind of thinking. As soon as it meets resistance in a fight, its going to retreat period. So yeah, in a weight parity, no matter the water depth, I see the croc winning handily. In deep water the shark would retreat after its clear that it won't win. In shallower coastal water, there is a greater chance the shark might be outright killed because it won't be able to hide in the depths. It would have to retreat further out, using its greater straight line speed to get away.
I wanted to do a follow up to my post; Regarding the land animal vs aquatic animal strength topic I brought up. While I didn't find the direct study, I did find a pdf of the June 2015 edition of the American Cetacean Society where the study is cited. Here is what it said: "Overall, though having greater absolute strength, large whales aren’t that strong relative to their size when compared to some land animals.
For example, an elephant, the largest of the terrestrial mammals, cited by the study had a total body mass of 2,500 kg. It produced a force while running of 27 kN.
“A young minke whale has a similar total body mass but is calculated to produce a force of only 6.4 kN,” says Mr Logan.
“A buffalo had a total body mass of 500 kg and produced a force of 12 kN. In comparison a small pilot whale is calculated to produce only 2.7kN of force.”
“The difference in force output between the terrestrial and marine mammals illustrates a fundamental difference in the kinds of selective pressures these animals are exposed to,” Mr Logan told BBC Earth.
Land animals need to use their skeleton and muscles to support their body mass against the force of gravity, for example, whereas marine mammals are supported by the buoyant force of water."
So as I said, the study acknowledges that land animals need greater strength of muscle and bone to support their own weight against gravity (and any other forces that get assisted by gravity) and it brings up a couple of examples at parity. An elephant can produce over 4x the force of an equal mass Minke Whale and likewise a buffalo can produce over 4x the force of an equal mass Pilot Whale. That is a massive strength difference. Now while crocodile's are semi aquatic, they do spend about half their time on land and are extremely well designed to express strength and power (again their extremely small organs meaning a higher percentage of weight dedicated to muscle and bone) and they express this by being able to contend with equal size buffalo in strength even on land. Hell there is even an account of a large Nile Crocodile drowning a Black Rhino in shallow water! And it did that by being strong enough to hold the rhino's head down in the water until its nostrils couldn't take in any more water. That is a massive strength feat for a crocodile considering the rhino was an adult and would have been heavier. So yeah, I think it's clear that with the croc being a terrestrial capable animal with great adaptations for strength and explosiveness, would overpower a similar size shark handily --especially since, on top of being strictly aquatic, the shark also has a huge chunk of its weight taken up by vital organs as opposed skeleto-muscular weight. Hell, we already have several videos of green sea turtles being able to outmaneuver and fight back against tiger sharks and chase them off (whereas saltwater crocodiles pretty easily kill such turtles at sea without much of a struggle from the turtle), so that's already a pretty damning display of a shark's rotational/fighting capability--and a croc is of course much more agile and explosive than a sea turtle. So yeah, in short, I greatly favor a 1000-1300 lb crocodile over any shark of equal weight.
Edit: There's actually one more strong piece of evidence of crocodiles being stronger animals than sharks at parity. And it comes from a shark expert himself: th-cam.com/video/1j3jEF9GNB8/w-d-xo.html In this 2016 documentary called Jungle Shark, shark expert Dr. Craig O'Connell and a few other people wrangled an american croc to collect a pheromone sample from it to see how bull sharks react to the scent. And this is how Dr. Craig reacted to the difficulty of the trying to hold down the croc with the group; he said "I mean I've wrangled 10 foot great white sharks, tagged them, released them. But working with this crocodile was such an intense experience that I'm absolutely exhausted right now." And when asked about it on twitter/x he responded that wrangling the croc was 'way harder' than wrangling the 10 foot great white: twitter.com/TheSharkDoctor/status/1376867465683173377 So there you go, even a shark scientist points to a crocodile being the stronger animal pound for pound. What's interesting to note is that the american crocodile that they jumped on in the documentary was hardly a monster...it looks like it was no more than 11 feet itself. And yet Dr. Craig still said it was a way more exhausting experience than against the 10 foot great white.
I have to mention that 460 kg Salties have been known to produce 16.000 newtons, not even a full grown male and less than half of the largest confirmed individuals.
It's hard to think about a fight between a great white shark and saltwater crocodile.
I mean, yes great whites and salties have overlapping territories but it usually seems that they avoid each other or just prefer their own hunting grounds.
In a battle, it's a no contest.
Sharks is a pursuit predator and highly curious whilst crocs usually stay motionless until whatever they see gets close to it.
If shark happens to get close to croc, croc would react and shark would flee. Sharks have fast reflexes so yeah it would escape.
What if shark is hungry and spots croc? A shark tries to find angles and goes at high speeds to get it but if croc sees shark, it will pose up and shark would flee because some prey is challenging shark
On the same weight class, i would give the croc a favorable match up against any living being on the planet
16460 N is the bite force of a 15 foot long crocodile, which does not represent the largest of the saltwater crocodiles. A 2012 study by scientist Gregory Erickson calculated the bite force of a full-sized crocodile (20 to 23 feet for 1 to 1.5 tons) and it came up with a result of 2.8 to 3.5 tons of pressure in the jaws of crocodiles of these dimensions. If we compare this result with that of the 2008 study, a saltwater crocodile of maximum size always has more force in the jaw than a white shark of maximum size.
@Abdul_Mossad I'm just saying that a large crocodile has a more powerful bite than a white shark, I'm not saying that a saltwater crocodile is "stronger" than a white shark. Indeed, I find it hard to see a crocodile (even a large one) managing to catch and kill a white shark in the open sea. The white shark is simply faster and more agile, it just needs to adopt the same hunting technique as with the sea lions (attack from below) and it can mortally injure the croc in a single blow. Even in shallow water, it would be extremely difficult for the croc to catch the shark (because of its speed and power). His best chance would be to grab the white shark by the snout or gills and immobilize it to drown it. Given the strength and liveliness of the white shark, I agree that the white shark is nevertheless more advantaged in a hypothetical fight with a crocodile.
The strongest shark of today vs the strongest crocodile in history
Not in history
Deinosuchus: am I a joke to you!?
@@DNation652 deinosuchus is closer related to gators and caimans than crocs and the sarchosucus is straight up neither
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@@0wonder I would bring up the purussaurus as well...but then I remembered that it's literally a caiman, not a crocodile.
‘A battle between the two would go for around 30 minutes’ How did you come up with that one? I’m afraid to say much of this is not backed by science but rather personal beliefs.
But what if, hear me out, they fought on land
I have seen most people on YT say the croc easily wins but I'm glad you gave the shark respect here. Sharks are m favorite animals so I'm happy to see you give an unbiased analysis of this battle. Literally every important factor to consider was mentioned. I agree that shark wins in deep water and croc wins in shallow water.
Honestly that's the best video I've seen about this battle between great white shark and salt water crocodile very detailed well profound explanation is accurate, I learn more about it . thanks for this video bro ❤❤❤😊
Mad video my guy , loving the unique content can’t find this anywhere on youtube !
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I agree wholeheartedly with you, both are very VERY intelligent. Like, so smart it’s scary. Thanks for crediting them, most people think they’re dumb, so this was great to see!
Without watching the video, I assume he points out it depends largely on the environment. The deeper the water, the advantage goes to the shark. The shallower the water, the advantage goes to the croc.
a shark can wound heavily a crocodile, even taking out a few limbs if it lands a good couple of bites but will likely be unable to straight up kill a croc, but if a single bite of a croc lands, the shark is straight up gone
Yea, but too bad math isn’t in your favor, the dimensions of a great white sharks gape is more than large enough to, put bluntly, bite any crocodile in half, even the largest ones.
Now I don’t know about you, but I’m betting most can agree a salt water crocodile isn’t getting its mouth around a damn thing, seeing as white sharks can get as stacked as minivans.
You make a strong point , but crocs tend to bite limbs so I’d assume it would go for the fin or tail
A GW would literally just swoop in from below and insta-kill it.
I don't know, bro. Sounds reasonable, but big sharks tend to be slower and less active. I believe they are more of scavengers than active predators. Also, sharks are easily spooked and do not engage in long fights with other sharks or prey animals. All of their fights seem to involve giving one bite (not even the strongest one as they are capable of doing way more damage than we see on thought-bitten sharks) on a smaller shark and then kind of chasing it away.
Don't get me wrong, you have done a great job, but I do not fully agree with your conclusions. I don't think they'd fight to the death, with the most likely scenario being a crocodile giving a bite and chasing the shark away.
But if they were to fight to the death, I'd put my money on the saltie.
Also, I believe they can get heavier than Lolong, and he is only the biggest we have accurately measured. There are some different estimations, with some putting max crocs at above 1500 or even 2200 kgs, but I am not so sure about it. At least the longest ever measured croc should be heavier?
Samething I said. It's prof that sharks do not like to fight especially when their getting attacked. Crocs on the other hand will eat and chase down anything, they are a real predator, man eaters. Crocs even eat there own kind after a death battle. But people wanna put the Croc in the middle of the Ocean to battle a Shark 😂😂😂 why not 20 to 30 feet of water where the croc can chill at the bottom
exactly... a shark would not engage in confrontation with a croc but crocs will hunt anything, if you fall in the water with a croc it will chase you and try to eat you it doesn't matter if you're a seal or a tiger. Great Whites get bullied by dolphins, a croc would 100% destroy a great white.
A fight to the death would just be a great white shark going for the kill against an unsuspecting saltie.
The GW wouldn't fight to the death because it would never get to that point. There's no 'weak bite'. It's not a boxing ring. It's the ocean, and a great white is an ambush predator with perpetual home field advantage.
2200kg saltwater croc? 💀💀 alright lets bring in the 35-foot great whites in the battle lmao
Really good video I pretty much agree with everything thing in this video👍
i agree great white wins in deep water cuz its a f*cking shark and saltie wins in shallow water cuz its a f*cking crocodile
Just a curious question. Why exactly do you give the agility and length advantage to the crocodile? Great whites are very agile in deep water and generally grow longer than salties.
The modern day version of the Deinosuchus vs Mosasaurus
Or more accurately: Purrusaurus vs. Megalodon as they lived at the same time and likely met one another from time to time in the Pacific ocean.
@@migueljardim8177 Did purussaurus swim in the open ocean? Because we know that deinosuchus preferred to live in estuaries and likely encountered mosasaurs.
@@xanshen9011 Purusaurus is a giant Caiman like crocodilian, so its mostly spend its time on swamps and river, we dont know if they have special adaptation like salty to tolerate sea water
@@migueljardim8177 The Meg got that whole ass 40 ton advantage
More like Deinosuchus vs Cretoxyrhina
The largest saltwater crocodiles can reach 7m and 2000kg while the largest great whites over 6m and over 3000kg
Malta and kalia
One advantage the croc has over the Shark, is it doesn't suffer the effects of tonic immobility, whereas Great Whites do.
What does that have to do with literally anything?
The crocodile is going to get blitzed by the great white shark, not to mention the great white weighing almost as much as 3 of the largest crocodile combined.
Lizards and reptiles like the crocodile also can have a lactic acid build up if the start moving or exhausting themselves too much… This match up isn’t even close.
This wouldn't be a factor.
@@925263 it could be, if the croc is able to perform a Death Roll at the right area.
Excellent carnivore match up
The Croc is a Living Dinosaur. Literally 😂. The sharks has no chance if they're round the same size. Plus the Croc have a armored skin. Plus is a shark lost a fin it most likely would die or couldn't survive. A Croc can live and thrive with missing limbs. Croc ALL DAY
Nah it's very distant to dinosaurs,birds are living dinosaur's,not Crocs,and also lol Crocs underbelly would undoubtedly make it an ez kill for a great white!
Crocs are slow. Shark too fast however if the shark stays too long on the inside trying to get a decent bite croc might turn the tables around very quickly
man i will pay for both david attenborough and the kratt brothers to do an episode about this fight and since we already have both great white and crocodile creature power suits i would love to see pbs making that episode either! and also bbc
I agree I think the shark wins. Although crocs are way scarier to humans
I'm still surprised that Crocs can put up much of a fight even when they are not in the terrain, very close fight could go either way
I really think it depends on who strikes first I really don’t think either could fend of an attack from each other
A crocodile can't do lethal damage to a great white in 1 bite
The croc stands no chance if you understand both creatures. Your setting is the ocean so the shark is coming from below and the croc is getting fucked up in one bite. The shark would land a bite and would wait on the crocs blood loss to finish it off when half dead. The crocs armour is no match for the bite force and razor sharp teeth. It's a one and done. You think the croc has more agility go watch a great white chase a seal it's very close on agility and sometimes the shark wins. The only chance a croc would have is a head on and if it could get purchase it may be able to tire the shark by holding on. It's definitely not biting the fins of lol as the shark won't stay around to let it. The croc would be toast in the open ocean as it hunts on the surface.
Id give it to the crocodile cause neither can really attack the body of the other, but the crocodile can easily live without a couple of legs but a shark cant live without even one fin most of the time
I like Crocs as well and salties are very impressive beasts, however I think in open ocean it's a no contest, the Shark is much faster, and attacks unsuspecting prey from below with a powerful burst of energy that can carry the white shark 20ft in the air and send a 500kg sea lion flying into the air, no way something is shaking that off, even a saltie. that said I think if the croc could somehow land a bite on the shark it would be damaging, but they would struggle to bite down on anything vital, and the shark is much more maneuverable and is also warm blooded, so it can maintain speed and combat for longer... also, Great whites prefer to hunt in shallow water, hence the relatively common contact with humans so I don't think the tables turn in this environment. I think that in general though, a White would only attack juveniles in an exploratory manner, if it were splashing on the surface... idk maybe an adult in the right circumstances. however I only see a mature saltie predating on juvenile whites, I don't think it's big or fast enough to kill an adult white shark... heck even a single orca (more than double the weight and much larger) fails to prey on white sharks, they have to use team work to catch the shark. In this event the shark swims in an evasive pattern away from the jaws of the incoming orca and maintains distance with its greater speed and maneuverability... If an orca can't pull it off, a saltie would need to go up for air after exhausting itself andddd BOOM. Still loved the video as always though!
Strength for Great Whites I disagree with, they're about equal and a Saltie's intelligence is insanely good. They've been known to keep track of where hunters usually frequent, the time they go there and so on. Their pattern analyses are something else.
Edit: a Saltie if they rip off the fins of the GW, would most definitely win regardless of the weight, it's more damage done to the GW than if the GW bites off the croc's arms/legs. They will have trouble swimming, moreso than the croc. And the 3rd scenario of their most reliable weight; I think you're underestimating the croc because the croc doesn't need to have a good bite grip onto the GW's body, they can just bite the nose of the shark off anyways, leaving it bleeding to death whereas the GW will have trouble penetrating the armor of the croc.
Therefore, the GW can die from massive blood loss or by drowning. The Saltie can of course die from these, too, but the chances of the GW pulling it off I would state is much lower.
See for example, Brutus of the Adelaide River if I remember correctly. One of the biggest Salties on record, but he only has 1 arm and yet he swims totally fine.
Nile crocs are the ones remembering patterns, not salties, and a great white's pattern is utterly irrelevant here. The saltie HAS TO breathe. It WILL approach the surface, and then it will die.
Not only that but the croc could attack the sharks gills
Deep water - Shark
Shallow water - Croc
Overall. Croc has more advantages.
Theirs a video of a large croc head washed up on shore in Australia and scientists said it looks like a large white shark took it just behind the head at a weak point
No. That was in south africa. And the croc was estimated to only be 3 meters long. Also, a shark researcher named Mike Heithaus said there were more questions than answers from that beached head, and that it could have easily been skin hunters or even a boat propeller that beheaded it
I'm not sure what you mean by battle. Sharks are actually scared of getting wounds so a great white's main strategy is just hit and run. They don't actually stay there and keep fighting taking hits, they simply do a critical hit and then let bleeding take effect.
Sharks are able to take some pretty nasty hits but I would say a crocodile has better resistances to that type of damage. Something that could probably turn the tide of the battle
@@achimpanzee9210sharks usually attack from below so a Crocs belly is a huge weak spot
@@urekmazino6800 I guess it depends on where the battle starts. Cause what’s really fair about a sneak attack? Cause let’s say a crocodile gets the first hit from behind then that’s not really fair
@@achimpanzee9210 just speaking the facts that's how they operate is all
The battle would ALWAYS start with the GW attacking.
A saltie is never going to ambush it because it does not hunt prey that big that far out in the sea, and a GW doesn't approach a coast unless there are seals present, avoiding shallow water even then.
But a saltie DOES venture out into the sea, typically swimming close to the surface, placing it in exactly the sort of spot you do not want to be in against a GW.@@achimpanzee9210
Good stuff, succinct and informative.
This's not event a fight this's just meal for gws
Everything you say is very informative and concrete
saying gws has better stamina than saltie is one of the worst takes i've seen
Who wins? Whoever gets first bite
The great white wins as soon as the croc goes to the surface for air. They have a soft belly. The polaris breach attack would destroy the croc.
Crocs in India salties kill and eat tigers sloth bears and pythons
The wider body and bite makes hard for a croc to grab a body part, at most it would rip a fin, while the GW is large enough to cut a croc in half
Some of the crocodile's teeth are specialized for capturing large pieces and tearing out tissue.
@@Polosatiy_Varan A shark is way larger than what they usually bite, shark has the adventage in most aspect of this fight
@@Not-Kobe In fact, crocodile has many more advantages. It is much better protected, it has unique maneuverable buoyancy, its viewing sector is larger etc
@@Polosatiy_Varan You are delusional if you believe crocs skin would resist a gws attack, and straight up crazy if you think its more manoubrable!
Fun Fact: All Crocodilians MUST come to the surface to devour prey. NEVER under water
I agree with the end result of the 3 concluded hypothesis. However, I can't accept the Salty's low winrate in each match. I don't think we've understood how detrimental it is for the Shark to have it's fin and tail bitten off. most sharks have a mechanical flaw in their design making them only able to breathe when they swim. So in a prolonged match where no instakill or crit hits occurred, a Salty would definitly bite them off. At that moment aside from losing it's speed and agility, the shark will also lose it's breath and therefore die. So with that in mind I can only surmise that it'd be more deserving if the winrates in order would be around 65-75, 55-60, and 65.
And yet there are photos and video of sharks with one fin missing that are still actively swimming and hunting.... this would indicate it's not an immediately fatal injury. Certainly likely to lower their life expectancy, but not a death blow by any means.... shark is very likely to bugger-off at that point though I reckon.
@@BullDogBreed75 Thats bcuz irl confrontations retreat is always an option, why do you think every predators successful hunt rate are so low? This isn't one of those situations so imagine continuing to box Mike Tyson with a dislocared arm. See how well that goes
@@mystics12 Problem I have with the whole argument is the un-natural conditions of the "fight". If the shark bites first the croc is in trouble and/ or dead. If the croc bites first it apparently auto-wins by surgically removing all the sharks fins...Nature isn't that predictable.
Crocs kill big prey primarily by drowning it, sharks by inflicting devastating injuries that result in either blood loss and/ or destruction of vital organs.
My money is on the shark in open water, it's how they kill that counts. Croc is highly unlikely to be able to drown the shark unless it completely immobilises it, but shark bites are insanely damaging, even to a croc. Crocs are tanks for sure, but even they have only so much blood.
@@BullDogBreed75 That is only in the event of a well placed bite though. I don't deny the sharks devastating bite, but a croc of similar proportions isn't exactly a bite size snack. Brawls often happen among great whites, and the bites at best did some markings on the side. Not to mention that prey who are bitten often fight back and escape, let alone a Salty. The scenario you have in mind have ONLY accounted for critical and ista-kill hits which if you read correctly I've specifically mentioned aside since it's a full on face off.
@@mystics12 Fair enough. Honestly, while it is an interesting topic of discussion, the basis for the "fight" is reliant on both animals acting in a very abnormal way, so the outcome would be pure conjecture either way.
While I could see an adult of either species going after a juvenile from the other, it seems highly improbable that two adults would ever face off as described.
Everything relies on which animal bites first, where that bite lands and how effectively it lands it.
I do think, in most cases a full grown GW (in open water) has the advantage... it's method of killing lends itself to the situation better than a crocs. Not to mention the way the jaws of each species works, and the girth of the target. Shark jaws operate differently to a crocs, they are very good at taking bites from large prey of significant girth (whales for example). Croc jaws are very much designed to clamp and hold. Both can apply huge pressure, but the shark tooth design converts that pressure into a massively damaging wound in a way a crocs jaws just don't do.
Short of a "lucky" hit to a vital area, the croc is highly unlikely to be able to drown the shark... but the shark doesn't need to drown the croc, it's bite damage is so severe that the croc will weaken very quickly (not to mention croc physiology doesn't lend itself to a protracted engagement, they build up lactic acid too quickly).
Saltie Crocodile Max Weight: 2,400 pounds
Great White Shark Average Weight: 2,400 pounds
Anyone else see the problem here?
Really enjoy this vid.
Fair and factual
Agree with the probability of winning as well !
Goostavo!!!!!
did yall see that? the great white chart?? it said anal fin 😂
How is it that I didn't realize that you are a croc fan until when you said it?! Anyways, I like your formatting with the scenarios. Really shows the full picture.
I honestly think this match isn't as close as people think. Great Whites are just so much stronger. People always say "Bull sharks are eaten by Salties all the time", ignoring the fact that Bull sharks are usually young, are much smaller, and no where near as active as a Great White. They swim much faster, and their warm blood gives them a much higher edge in terms of stamina. A Croc isn't getting a single bite in because the Shark has the electic sense to avoid trouble, and it has much higher bursts of speed to counteract any sudden movements. A Saltie vs a Tiger Shark would be a much closer fight.
I think the Great White's girth would be too big for the crocodile to bite.
This reminds me of who would win books
i would probably increase the shark winrate in open waters, but i agree with the shallow water one, maybe even increasing the croc winrate a bit considering the shark would have trouble building up speed and the agility of the croc gaining more advantage.
Great white mid diffs tbf
Average females white sharks weigh 900 kg on average males weigh 600 kg on average
8:50 stop lying dude! Sundarban tigers are much smaller and that was a tigress as well so impossible for it to be anywhere close to 500 lbs. The croc wasn't also measured or estimated. If the weight was this close, the croc would have no chance.
W Arguments can be made for both sides but I would give it to the gws
I simply think that the fight would end.Because even though the crocodile bite is much stronger normally it drowns its victims.. And that's probably not going to happen with a shark
They both should split if they see an orca
A large crocodile will kill or fatally injure an orca.
@@Polosatiy_Varanthe average male orca would fold lolong 😭😭😭
@@Distix-uz8qr The average male orca wouldn't even come close to Lolong, Dominator, Brutus, Gustave. This is why even 4 m Salties swim normally in the ocean between Australia, the Cocos Islands and New Zealand.
The greatest predator of the modern day vs the greatest predator in history
The salty is him
A Saltie can reach at least 7 meters and weigh more than 2 tons, the Philippines have these record crocs but of course they're extremely rare.
Sources?
Malta great white shark was 23.4ft (7.13m long) and weight 3.7 tons.
Crocodile would only be able to bite the fins. Cant get their chompers round the main part of the shark. I know crocs have tough skin but take into account mating damage in whites
Depends where the fight happens. In the crocodiles advantage it would SLAM in the wide ocean the shark would win. Overall Imma give it to the crocodile, although that’s very debatable
nah, saltie solos
Saltwater crocodile would win easily against a great white shark
I think all these scenarios always depend on who gets the first bite and where. In open water i think the shark has a greater chance at landing a clean bite, but if the croc gets a hold of a fin i think the shark is in big trouble. Better yet, if a saltie lands a bite on the crocs nose. Sharks are made of primarily cartilage. Shark face could cave in after a clean bite on the face.
A saltwater crocodile would win easily against a great white shark
Jusy fyi so far the saltwater crock has the 3rd strongest bite, with the great white being stronger as you mentioned. Salt water around 16k nm, great white being arpund 18k nm and at the top the orca, around 85k nm!
The force of the killer whale bite has already been refuted.
Can someone make a hybrid between a bull shark and a great white shark
This is a sheer mismatch considering their sizes. Growth rate studies on Great white sharks indicates that average females reach the asymptote growth rate at about ~6 meters in length, which is much greater in length and especially mass than the average asymptotic male saltwater crocodile at a TL of 4.9 meters.
I agree BUT da croc can escape (:
Out in the sea? No, it cannot.
They prob just look at each other and think.. wtf is that thing
Crocodile would win easily against a great white shark in shallow waters
If the croc can't take an an elephant after it already has it by the trunk in water then
Shark wins!
How would you get these two animals to fight each other? I think a fight between them is virtually impossible, so how can you even determine who would win?
Great White's are the King of the sea only potentially beat by the Orca. The Salties ar Kings of rivers, lakes and estuaries. You would probably think that the closer to land the more Salties would have the edge, and the closer to the sea the more the Great White's would have the edge. Both are vulnerable on their belly, and likely whoever bites first wins. Here the Great White's speed and size would give it the edge, but closer to land the agility and armor of the Salties would give it the edge there.
So who wins? I think it depends on where they are fighting, but they are not likely to ever fight.
I agree with your conclusion that with same size and around the land the Salties has the edge, but in average or greater size and open ocean the edge would go to the Great White.
"16k newtons the highest recorded of any animal ever." (That equates to about 3.4k PSI)... Orca's biteforce is 84k newtons. (19k PSI) It isn't even close to the salt water crocs... Why add in a blatant falsity?
because a refuted lie is such a bite force in a killer whale.
crocodile would win in murky waters and great white in open ocean.
This could go either way. I think it sort of comes down to who lands the first bite.
Also it very much depends on the location. In the open sea the croc is toast, in a river it's about 50/50.
@@Romulan2469it's very hard for the croc to actually get a good grip considering great whites are bigger and heavier
@@faizedfr Yep crocs are only capable of ambush attacks on gazelles and death rolls, none of which would work on the GWS. Not only the size of the GWS, but also the speed, power and 300 fang shaped teeth would give the croc a lot of problems.
@@Romulan2469 yeah. Also, I think great whites grow over 30,000 teeth in their lifetime, do Crocs only have one pair or do they also regrow teeth? I don't remember
@@faizedfr They can regrow teeth as well. I believe the limit is 50 times per tooth. They can get through over 3000 teeth in their entire lifetime. Great white sharks don’t have a limit on the number of times a tooth gets replaced. They literally have a conveyor belt of never ending replacement teeth.
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When it comes to a fight between these two, it comes down to the depth of the water. If it’s really deep, the shark takes the match. If it’s moderately deep then it can be a coin toss, if it’s slightly deep - croc no diffs
Depth doesn't matter. Crocodiles dominate sharks in the open sea.
I have a question for the makers of this video. Here is my question: who do you think would win a head to head one on one fight to the death between a Black Caiman and a Bengal tiger. Could you please state your opinion as to which animal would win this fight and why? Could you please give reasons to support your answer. I await your reply.
Great white would probably win all pretty easily
I have a question for the maker of this video. Here is my question: who do you think would win a head to head one on one fight to the death between a Black Caiman and a Bengal tiger. Could you please state your opinion as to which animal would win this fight and why? Could you please give reasons to support your answer. I await your reply.
Saltwater crocodile would torn apart in two half a great white shark