Interesting how the growler bear isn’t bigger than the polar bear But the fact that it survives in the wild is the ultimate deciding factor in this fight
As far as I know, ligers are quite unhealthy animals that are also prone to things like organ failure, arthritis, neurological disorders, cancers, etc. Grolars aren't because of how much closer grizzlies and polars are related to one another.
yup and yall just proved why grolar is not a true hybrid by definition :D actual hybrids are sterile and are classified as 2 of the same species that are so far they no longer can breed with fertile offspring. There are many points to hybrids by definition that grolar flat out does not fit into. When the genetic code is that similer its not really a hybrid its the same as a tabby house cat breeding with a persian. The genetic code is diffrent when it comes to outside features buttt the genetic code is still close enogh that they are still fertile and can breed with any other house cat still while giving fertile off spring. This is something tigers and lions lack all togther but grizzly and polar do not lack :) This is why many who are into hybrids actually dont consider grolars hybrids
The health difference isn't because of how closely related they are, it's just a matter of tigers and lions having certain growth-related genes on their sex chromosome, but reversed between the two. Effectively, growth-inhibiting genes are passed from male tigers to their children, and from female lions to their children. Ligers, with a lion father and tiger mother, do not inheriting growth-limiting genes from either parent, resulting in all ligers having excesse growth similar to acromegaly. The reverse hybrid, tigons, have much fewer health issues than ligers do. While how recently two species diverged can be a decent predictor of whether or not they hypothetically could have a hybrid child, it's not nearly as good a predictor of how healthy or unhealthy that hybrid would be. Donkeys and Horses diverged from their common ancestor further back than it appears that tigers and lions diverged, yet the hybrid of them, aka a Mule, is quite hardy and is actually less prone to health complications than horses are in general.
Yeah 50 mph (80 Km/ hr) is a bit high sided for the Liger. A healthy Liger "might" hit 40. The video showed a Pissly was actually clocked at 24 mph, but actually thry might hit high 20's not being out of the question. Grizzly bears have been officially timed as fast as 37 mph, but these are smaller to mid sized at 300 to 400 pounds. The big monster Grizzly's at 700 to 800+ pounders are slower. Excluding Cheetahs, the Siberian tiger is the fastest big cat, and can hit 80 km/ hr. No way could a Liger be as fast as a Siberian Tiger. Lionesses are over 5 mph faster than the male Lions are, mass , even muscle mass can cut down on top speed, though not on acceleration as much, and its surprise and acceleration that lets a slower predator catch faster prey.
That is a very big if. As far as we know ligers can't survive in the wild and with no known instances of natural ligers occurring in India's Gir National Park, Northern Iran, and eastern Anatolia (Turkey), habitats were both lions and tigers cross, it is safe to conclude that ligers and tigons are intelligently designed animals and can not survive in the wild.
@@socipathicgaming5914 a healthy liger without various diseases is itself a lottery to win after one is born, then another to survive to adulthood and not die from predators or something else while it is a vulnerable cub. I do not deny the chances of such existing are incredibly low, but if it did it wouldn't suck so badly at fighting.
That is the problem, there does not exist a single healthy Liger because its a bad mix. The tiger and lion are close enough to reproduce but these offspring come with issues
I have to wonder if a Liger could even survive in the wild. It has just lost so many of the advantages that its parents have. I wonder if it's possible to selectively breed a liger with the ideal set of traits for survival.
If it was born in the wild then it may have a chance at survival. I would think having to hunt for food every day would definitely help it maintain a more healthy body weight. It's hard to be obese when you don't have a 100% success rate.
Not 100% sure about this one but I recall hearing that Ligers are not very fertile either. That comes besides the fact of how much they would probably have to eat daily in order to sustain their larger bodies
@@I3igI3adW0lfits far far more thsn just exercise son. It's genetics! The poor creature has so many health problems due to that and woukd die in the wild. Asshole who breed them are so irresponsible, as tbey come to this world to suffer ailments due to genetics.
@@anaisgrace4358 i see them ligers as ambush animals they can't be a persistance hunter because their fat so only option left is a ambush although their coat gives them away If we assume that a liger magically gets a good coat that matches their sorroundings and magically gets better endurance then we can start i see them hunting buffalo, baby elephants, baby - pre adult hippos, baby - pre adult crocodiles etc etc I see them evolving to breath longer in water as there's no better hiding spots in the savanna they'll hide in the water and pounce out emidietly once an animal gets close to the water kinda like a crocodile i bet it'll be easy due to their size.
I think another really big point to be made is stamina. We already know big cats have bad stamina so it can be assumed that these mostly unhealthy/overweight cats who don’t do as much cardio compared to their wild relatives have it even worse. Meanwhile bears of all kind have stamina that is remarkable that allows them to run after prey and get into battles with other bears that exceed 10 minutes.
To be honest if the bear and the cat were pound per pound same the stamina wouldn't matter at all because pound per pound cats defeat any land animals bears will only win due to having larger size that way its able to tank the hits of the cat until the cat is exhausted than it will easily tear it apart due to the stamina factor
Team bear. Here is a controversial opinion, but I think a wild male lion or Bengal/Siberian tiger may have a better chance against a Grolar bear. The Liger, although very large, is very obese and a pampered zoo resident. It doesn't have to actively hunt or fight. It's almost like a giant house cat. The bear has that raw stamina as well. Also, I liked the "bear in mind" pun :) Keep up the great work!
I agree 100%. A wild large male lion or a wild large male tiger is way more experienced and skilled compared to a liger. Also love your videos keep up the good work 😁👍🏻
I hate these reason, why even factor that, the only grolar bear we see are ones that are in captivite, though we know it can occur in the wil, we have very little info about. There is no point in pinning a domestically tamed liver against a wild grolar bear. That is a ridiculous match-up.
I'm calling bs. You can't pull the the zoo handicap for the liger when we know it was possible for to have existed in the wild at some point. If the liger gets nerfed for being a zoo animal then so should the bear. Also don't claim it to be impossible to survive in the wild because of its size when we have examples of comparable big cats like the American lion thriving during the pleistocene.
Thank you! and yeah I agree that a bengal/Siberian tiger would have a better chance thanks to their far more athletic nature in addition to their experience of dealing with bears themselves.
@@vinzentwallbach4251because that's not how they hunt. Lions and tigers will try to kill their prey as fast as possible whilst bears will just eat their preys alive. Bears are way stronger than big cats in every way possible. That's just a fact.
@@vinzentwallbach4251 I didn't say you were right. You seem to think that a liger could beat a grolar bear which is completely untrue. Bears are way stronger animals.
@@shrekhoodieguy5449 I never said I believed that. I am well aware bears are stronger. Hence why I am surprised they suck at killing quickly. And yes I know how cats hunt and that it's not the same and so on. I just think it's ironic.
The bear would have difficulty, but it would edge out simply because it knows what it's doing. I have a feeling that the liger would actually get injured when it moves hard, due to the weight. Big dog breeds have the same problems. Now imagine something like a Short Face Bear.
Grolar bear wins mid diff if we’re talking about a zoo liger A liger raised in the wild by a lion/tiger Would do better but the grolar bear still takes it extreme diff
i agree, siberian tigers occasionally clash with brown bears and the bear wins more often than not (albeit by a small margin) and i think the increased sizes of both animals scale nicely to make a good comparison assuming both are raised in the wild
@@adminbob_Yes, true, though the Siberian Tiger normally used ambush on brown bears. Also, Siberian tigers killed more Ursrie Brown bears before 1990, because in the wild, Siberian Tigers were larger before 1990. Today, the remaining Siberian tigers are smaller and normally do not hunt Brown bears as much as they "use to". Poachers have purposely killed off the larger specimens for trophy hunting and the herbal industry. Even worse than habitat destruction, poaching has effected the Siberian Tiger Gene pool so much that they are no longer the biggest Tiger species in the wild ( they "use" to be). Bengals are now larger, (their size has remained the same)
Wild liger would slam with Mid difficulty I mean there almost the same size a liger would be faster more agile and could able to cause greater destruction towards it a Kodiak bear would be pretty even
The Growler bear, sort of, similar to an old pre-historic csve bear somewhat; though a regular Grizzly fits cave bear better. Polar bears do not live in caves, Grizzly's sometimes do. The Liger, No WAY is it close to any pre-historic cat. A Liger has genetic issues causing health problems which would cause Negative issues, resulting in it likely not being able to survive in the wild. The genetics of polor bears and grizzly's are closer, do less chance of bad genetics, while Liins and Tigers are further apart genetically, thus their offspring has higher chances of genetic defects.
The closest in size would be a Kodiak bear. same species as a grizzly but has the advantage of eating a higher protein diet, and thus grows larger. Some hit about 1400lbs.
a similar size bear usually would outlast a big cat. They have a lot more stamina in a battle. Cats are quick strike predators and they would throw in the towel quickly If they sensed they could not win or get seriously hurt.
I don't know for sure but I think pound for pound the cat would be stronger. There's a reason their stamina is so bad. It's a trade off for crazy explosive power. Cats might even be pound for pound the strongest animal of all.
@gangweed3244 Injured,old or female and cubs brown bears. They don't even go near full grown, healthy male brown bears. And even when those type of bears have been hunted, there have been only a few cases.They have no chance with healthy, adult, male brown bears. Brown bears do the same to injured tigers and their cubs. Difference is that they are not intimidated by adult tigers.
Grolar likely eats it. More over, theres every chance it doesnt even kill it before starting to eat it if theres a notable strength gap. Bears of both species are known to eat things alive with fair regularity.
Bears seem to leave tiger carcasses along if they find one though because it apparently taste really bad for them, which is saying a lot considering that Bears aren’t all that picky.
Bears have a much better build to support being that big. All the lions/tigers/ligers that get anywhere close to as big as a large bear seem to be too heavy for their frames.
In my opinion Grolar bear destroys. What’s basically a over grown House cat against a absolute genetic monster of one of natures strongest animals. This is honestly a no contest since we have to consider the battle IQ of the bear and just the brute power it has over the panther. One happens naturally and another was made to happen just for the curiosity of it. I will say tho, the Liger has some potential. But as it stands, the Bear takes this. Great video as always holy shit🔥🔥
Mistakes I can point out: -Polar bear bite force is low due to having to penetrate only blubber, if grolar have heads in between polar and browns then should have a less powerful bite than the brown, but I guess not all grolars come the same. -I'm yet to see video evidence of bear high "swipe strike force", there are videos of browns striking dogs and wolves, the result is not even a mark, they do move the target. There is lots of video evidence of tigers swipe strength, but only on other tigers that I remember (on dogs too but the intention is not damaging but stun and reposition, when is not for grabbing), and the result is what one can imagine of a colossal blow. For what I've seen, cats are more efficient in delivering a strike with the front paws, has to be due to it's anatomy. The difference in favor of a bear would be the big digging claws of a brown bear, not that the tiger claws are useless in "scratching", cutting, but in a swiping move I rather do it with long claws. They also help with the other big advantage of bears that is their wrestling abinstincts hibernating (and cubs or subadults)
@@soupman163 Yes, polar bears have low bite force...1- see the zygomatic arches 2-justified as they eat blubber...And yes in all the videos I saw, swipe from brown bears result in no damage, only moving the dog/wolf and scaring them. Damage from brown bears, comes when bears grab the dog, embrace them, bite them and puncture with claws. Swipe does nothing. There are many videos showing this. One I can remember easy to find is the attack from many brown bears over one wolf in a zoo, killing it, another wolf came to the rescue and some brown bear swipe it, and nothing. But there are many videos in the wild. Same result, nothing.
I gotta put this out there... The liger is cappable of surviving on it's own if given the chance. They just need to be raised in the wild like the bears. People keep saying they are fat because they are a hybred wich biologicly sounds wrong. The experiance (both of mind and body) of having to hunt for food and forrgae like bears will do also, vastly changes the drive and personality of an animal. I'd love to see a few liger cubs get orpahned to a wild tigress and her raise them as her own. Then see what they turn into.
Below 80 km/ hr (50 mph). The big bear was listed at 24 mph from one being clocked by a car. He thought the Bear might be a little faster, (maybe in the high 20's). The Liger is faster than the bear, yes, but "no way" can it do 50 mph, like a Siberian Tiger.
I agree with what you mentioned in this video- a creature that only ever lives in a zoo would never beat a wild animal. However, I think that to be fair for the video, you should narrate as though there were healthy wild ligers living today. Otherwise, this is a great vid
Thanks for the feedback! Only thing is with little to no evidence of wild ligers and those we have today being plagued with health issues just means it’s a bit more in the “what if” territory to say the liger is capable of thriving when we just don’t know.
@TheOverseerDebates I definitely agree. Something I would have done had I been making the video would be to draw facts from large extinct cats, such as smilodon populator or the American cave lion. Researching statistics and behavior of these massive cats could give a good idea of how a healthy wild liger would act/fight. If you face a similar situation like this in the future, I'd definitely recommend researching other similar animals to reach a conclusion that's more fair to both contenders
Brown bears have a rather incredible size range in different populations and by sex. There are probably 35 countries, though notably neither Mongolia or China are among them, where the average weight of a female adult human exceeds that of a female adult Gobi bear, and 2 or 3 where an average adult woman is larger than the largest individual female Gobi bear. Meanwhile, an adult male Kodiak bear is larger than some breeds of horse.
@@hakeeemquaviantavius No a decent size mugger is hard to kill for a Bengal tiger one called "machli" almost died killing a weak small sick and dehydrated one
@@poojathapa4940 th-cam.com/video/0ZXZsPOaImg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xMF4Sg4m5Y6epoTu Pretty sure the croc was fine but got dehydrated and over heated during the fight
We really need to let this debate go. No big cat or gorilla can stand In front of a grizzly bear or polar bear. Especially a polar bear, they will get torn to shreds. Let it go.
Weight is tricky with wild bears, especially brown and black bears. It fluctuates wildly depending on the time of year. There's an amazing video of a pair of grizzly bears in flat out combat for over 15min. I don't think there's a cat alive that can sustain that.
Correct, there is a not a big cat on earth that would try and take down one of those bears in that video, Cats cannot afford any injury and there would be a lot of injuries trying to take on one of those.
@@jasonwigginsA Bear can swim a 100 miles, much more stamina and power. You see those tigers struggle with even small sloth bears, imagine what a prime 1000 pound plus bear would do.
@@powerboatguy2308 The Sloth Bear argument is ridiculous. It really is. Sloths are literally a part of a Tigers diet. There's a video on TH-cam of a rather small Tiger killing one in literal seconds. National Geographic has run articles about the Sloth being the most dangerous Bear species, specifically because they evolved side by side with Tigers. They know how to defend themselves against Tigers, but without any doubt whatsoever, Tigers kill Sloths.
There is one pretty important factor ignored in this video and that is the claws. Bears have dull claws that are mostly used for digging while cat claws are razor sharp due to being protected from getting dulled down from walking on them. I also finds the focus on current Ligers being limited to zoos a bit unfair as they can show up in the wild just as Grolar bears can be found in zoos.
There's been no record of a Liger in the wild, it's hard to speculate with data that doesn't exist. In contrast however, Grolar Bears do occur in the wild, but our research on them isn't nearly as fleshed out as our research on captive Ligers. I don't know if you've ever seen a bear up close, but they're huge. Even if the claws are comparatively dull with respect to the big cats, a spike/blade doesn't need to be razor sharp to do a lot of damage, it only needs to concentrate the force of the strike. Source: I live in Canada and I've had Black Bears put their claws through my garbage cans, the big square kind with the heavy duty plastic. Black bears are small potatoes in this context, too.
overseer: no matter what animal you don't wanna mess with these hybrids hippo: what you talking about salt water crocodile: i want to eat him elephant: should i be scared of that teddy
Hybrids of Tigers and lions probably occurred in the past when ranges overlapped many animals have hybrids even us humans.!. I have cats as generally winning at weight parity Tigers in the far east win more encounters with Brown bears according to the last paper I read, saying that the much smaller sloth bear n sometimes fend off the match larger bengal tiger. For me its a 50/50.
Heres one thing i find interesting.If Ligers were born and raised in the wild,they would be SO much more menacing.Nedding to work for prey its likely they wouldnt be as fat because in zoos all they do is eat,nap and walk around a bit.And if they were raised in the wild then they would certainly have better experiance and battle intelligence then their more domesticated versions.So a speculative wild liger would probably give a groler bear a better run for its money.
People often point to the fact that Siberian Tigers often have a small (tiny) percentage of their diet being brown bear but ignores that the "prey" is only of the very young, old, sick, hibernating or dead brown bears. On the other hand, the brown bears, as omnivores, tend to only hunt in the autumn, and early winter before hibernation and would not be chasing tigers. The tigers perhaps hunt smaller black bears.
The biggest question of the grolar bear is: which species temperment does it possess? Is it mostly indifferent like a grizzly, or is it a psychopathic killer like a polar bear?
Usually the other way round, where the grizzly and polar bear meet in the wild the grizzly virtually always drives off the polar bear as they're far more aggressive.
Grizzlies are always the more aggressive in like a fighting sense. Polar bear is way more of a stalker killer. Things are patient, observant, and determined. Definitely the more terrifying since they will hunt you down, and you might not know it's even there. Grizzly would be the more aggressive though in just wondering up ready to fight though.
Grolar bears are from the same species of bear grizzly bears and polar bears are the same species they just have a few physical different characteristics due to their environment but they are scientifically the same species of bear I spent a couple of years in the Arctic and was informed by many locals that they’ve Ben known to mate together from time to time since forever
I think comparing these animals would be unfair. These are hybrids and these animals do not exist in the wild, and hybrids are animals that stuggle to survive in most cases. But it is still cool to compare them.
That are literal brown bears that still has Polar bear DNA in them from their ancestors that mated with the polar bears. Groler Bear happens far often to the point of having able to birth cubs that is not sterile like ligers do Heck if you look at russia and alaska. Their territory literally hugs each other and all takes is one rogue polar bear going to warmer climated place and mate with the brown bears😅
"no matter what animal you are, you certainly wouldn't want to come face to face with this hybrid." argentinosaurus, barosaurus, tyrannosaurus, palaeoloxodon, triceratops, shantungosaurus, blue whale, deinosuchus, humpback whale, sperm whale and human with two flamethrowers in a giant truck covered in spikes: are we a joke to you?
I need more of this Aussie accent talking about wild animals. Nothing better than a wikd human describing wild animals with their wild accents. I love it!
Dude the biggest Kodiak bear ever recorded is 2130Lbs and largest polar bear recorded is 2209lbs and in the past 300 years or sooner there’s definitely been at least one of each that was never recorded 150-200lbs bigger than those
I wouldn't be surprised if it could technically hit 50 to 70 mph but would take an enormous amount of time to get there and would pass out from exhaustion immediately.
The thing that's really important between the two ultimately comes down just to power. Speed won't matter for actually fighting, as both animals will be discarding how fast they can run and just hitting each other. In this area, a big bear like that is almost completely uncontested, and despite ligers being the biggest cats, I seriously doubt they'd ever be able to handle a massive bear like that, which is built very sturdy and pretty much designed to be both incredibly strong and resilient. A liger against a black bear is closer to even, but they'd still have the disadvantage that bears are just built sturdier than most other animals. There have been cases of bears actually taking bullets in the head and surviving it, and ligers could certainly injure them, but that's far too tough for them to kill one unless it gets very lucky.
Liger has too many unknowns. Animals in Captivity are not good demonstrations of the true capabilites of the animal. Remember that there were many "legends" of wild Ligers long before they were filmed at zoos
A 1980s (or before) male Siberian tiger could kill a Smilodon. "Today", Siberian Tigers in the wild, are significantly smaller, and it would be more difficult.
Which species of smilodon are you referring to? The two larger species would obliterate a Siberian tiger. The largest wild Siberian tigers never surpassed 300 kgs and now they average below 200 kgs. The smilodon fatalis, the second largest smilodon species, was said to have been able to surpass 350 kgs in Christansen and Harris (2005).
The largest Smilodon species, smilodon populator, was said to have been able to surpass 400 kgs according to the same study. However, according to a 2016 study by paleontologist Sherani, 400 kgs is likely and under estimation and 450 kgs is more likely.
I love reading the comments and seeing humans act like they know everything, really shows me that we humans are ignorant and don't really know what we're talking about.
I am curious now if there’s much media at all of the tigons since from what I hear tigons don’t have much health issuers so they could potentially grow in mental to adapt on the wild and having a balanced size between tigers and female lions so it be a interesting thing to look on!
It isn't just Grolar vs Liger. This is how it would go between any similar sized bear and cat. If they cat can't kill the bear quickly then it is better off running because it already lost.
This reminds me of the accounts given by Roman gladiators in that bears almost always killed big cats when put up against one another. They can both inflict substantial damage but a bear has much more protection, in the form of thick fur and fat, than a big cat typically does. Also I feel like in the instances where they fought, it was described that the weight difference was a substantial factor and that bears often simply crushed the big cat.
Good question. If the liger grew in the wild it would have a much better chance. Only issue is we don’t have any documented (as far as I know) evidence of how a liger would perform in the wild, hence leading us to rely on speculation.
Bruh I think that Liger can't even fight properly while Pizzly is a combination of the 2 biggest and most powerful terrestrial predators currently. No matter, even if it could, in fight with big cats vs bears, bears always win, they are superior in almost every way.
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Interesting how the growler bear isn’t bigger than the polar bear
But the fact that it survives in the wild is the ultimate deciding factor in this fight
I prefer “Prisly Bear.”
@@rollotomasislawyer3405its called a pizzly bear if the farther is a polar bear and the mother is a grizzly bear
Well I don’t see a liger naturally occurring
Tbf nobody truly knows if a liger could survive in the wild. Man hypothesize a lot of things and turn out to be wrong
@@mogulme6190 not enough prey to keep it fed, no chance
As far as I know, ligers are quite unhealthy animals that are also prone to things like organ failure, arthritis, neurological disorders, cancers, etc. Grolars aren't because of how much closer grizzlies and polars are related to one another.
Correct. Polar bears actually descend from Grizzlies. So yes they are related.
yup and yall just proved why grolar is not a true hybrid by definition :D actual hybrids are sterile and are classified as 2 of the same species that are so far they no longer can breed with fertile offspring. There are many points to hybrids by definition that grolar flat out does not fit into. When the genetic code is that similer its not really a hybrid its the same as a tabby house cat breeding with a persian. The genetic code is diffrent when it comes to outside features buttt the genetic code is still close enogh that they are still fertile and can breed with any other house cat still while giving fertile off spring. This is something tigers and lions lack all togther but grizzly and polar do not lack :) This is why many who are into hybrids actually dont consider grolars hybrids
The health difference isn't because of how closely related they are, it's just a matter of tigers and lions having certain growth-related genes on their sex chromosome, but reversed between the two. Effectively, growth-inhibiting genes are passed from male tigers to their children, and from female lions to their children. Ligers, with a lion father and tiger mother, do not inheriting growth-limiting genes from either parent, resulting in all ligers having excesse growth similar to acromegaly. The reverse hybrid, tigons, have much fewer health issues than ligers do.
While how recently two species diverged can be a decent predictor of whether or not they hypothetically could have a hybrid child, it's not nearly as good a predictor of how healthy or unhealthy that hybrid would be. Donkeys and Horses diverged from their common ancestor further back than it appears that tigers and lions diverged, yet the hybrid of them, aka a Mule, is quite hardy and is actually less prone to health complications than horses are in general.
@@markandrew5968your comment is a good read, thanks for the information
@@markandrew5968 thanks for the info
The only way a liger could make eighty kph is accelerating down the face of a particularly high cliff.
Yeah 50 mph (80 Km/ hr) is a bit high sided for the Liger. A healthy Liger "might" hit 40. The video showed a Pissly was actually clocked at 24 mph, but actually thry might hit high 20's not being out of the question. Grizzly bears have been officially timed as fast as 37 mph, but these are smaller to mid sized at 300 to 400 pounds. The big monster Grizzly's at 700 to 800+ pounders are slower. Excluding Cheetahs, the Siberian tiger is the fastest big cat, and can hit 80 km/ hr. No way could a Liger be as fast as a Siberian Tiger. Lionesses are over 5 mph faster than the male Lions are, mass , even muscle mass can cut down on top speed, though not on acceleration as much, and its surprise and acceleration that lets a slower predator catch faster prey.
@@williamthornton5856 Siberian tiger might not run 50 mph despite being 240 pounds lighter It should be able to run 40 mph
And driving a car
If the liger was actually healthy and lived in the wild, then it might do better.
An unhealthy one from a zoo won't perform well in a fight.
Its never healty... its a genetic failure
“ that’s the thing, it can’t” -omni man, probably
That is a very big if. As far as we know ligers can't survive in the wild and with no known instances of natural ligers occurring in India's Gir National Park, Northern Iran, and eastern Anatolia (Turkey), habitats were both lions and tigers cross, it is safe to conclude that ligers and tigons are intelligently designed animals and can not survive in the wild.
@@socipathicgaming5914 a healthy liger without various diseases is itself a lottery to win after one is born, then another to survive to adulthood and not die from predators or something else while it is a vulnerable cub.
I do not deny the chances of such existing are incredibly low, but if it did it wouldn't suck so badly at fighting.
That is the problem, there does not exist a single healthy Liger because its a bad mix. The tiger and lion are close enough to reproduce but these offspring come with issues
Grolar bear destroys
No dumbo
Facts
Nope
@@harristiapo8046 yes*
@@kilianteni7884 no
I have to wonder if a Liger could even survive in the wild. It has just lost so many of the advantages that its parents have. I wonder if it's possible to selectively breed a liger with the ideal set of traits for survival.
If it was born in the wild then it may have a chance at survival. I would think having to hunt for food every day would definitely help it maintain a more healthy body weight. It's hard to be obese when you don't have a 100% success rate.
Not 100% sure about this one but I recall hearing that Ligers are not very fertile either. That comes besides the fact of how much they would probably have to eat daily in order to sustain their larger bodies
@@I3igI3adW0lfits far far more thsn just exercise son. It's genetics! The poor creature has so many health problems due to that and woukd die in the wild. Asshole who breed them are so irresponsible, as tbey come to this world to suffer ailments due to genetics.
@@anaisgrace4358 i see them ligers as ambush animals they can't be a persistance hunter because their fat so only option left is a ambush although their coat gives them away
If we assume that a liger magically gets a good coat that matches their sorroundings and magically gets better endurance then we can start i see them hunting buffalo, baby elephants, baby - pre adult hippos, baby - pre adult crocodiles etc etc
I see them evolving to breath longer in water as there's no better hiding spots in the savanna they'll hide in the water and pounce out emidietly once an animal gets close to the water kinda like a crocodile i bet it'll be easy due to their size.
@@anaisgrace4358 They are not fertile , they cant reproduce
I think another really big point to be made is stamina.
We already know big cats have bad stamina so it can be assumed that these mostly unhealthy/overweight cats who don’t do as much cardio compared to their wild relatives have it even worse.
Meanwhile bears of all kind have stamina that is remarkable that allows them to run after prey and get into battles with other bears that exceed 10 minutes.
Can’t beat a dogo tho 😂
He mentioned that in the video
Exactly...bears have high endurance and would chase a prey down until it's exhausted
To be honest if the bear and the cat were pound per pound same the stamina wouldn't matter at all because pound per pound cats defeat any land animals bears will only win due to having larger size that way its able to tank the hits of the cat until the cat is exhausted than it will easily tear it apart due to the stamina factor
Polar bears can swim for 60 miles easily
Team bear. Here is a controversial opinion, but I think a wild male lion or Bengal/Siberian tiger may have a better chance against a Grolar bear. The Liger, although very large, is very obese and a pampered zoo resident. It doesn't have to actively hunt or fight. It's almost like a giant house cat. The bear has that raw stamina as well. Also, I liked the "bear in mind" pun :) Keep up the great work!
I agree 100%. A wild large male lion or a wild large male tiger is way more experienced and skilled compared to a liger.
Also love your videos keep up the good work 😁👍🏻
I hate these reason, why even factor that, the only grolar bear we see are ones that are in captivite, though we know it can occur in the wil, we have very little info about. There is no point in pinning a domestically tamed liver against a wild grolar bear. That is a ridiculous match-up.
I'm calling bs. You can't pull the the zoo handicap for the liger when we know it was possible for to have existed in the wild at some point. If the liger gets nerfed for being a zoo animal then so should the bear. Also don't claim it to be impossible to survive in the wild because of its size when we have examples of comparable big cats like the American lion thriving during the pleistocene.
Thank you! and yeah I agree that a bengal/Siberian tiger would have a better chance thanks to their far more athletic nature in addition to their experience of dealing with bears themselves.
@@TheOverseerDebatesfemale bears
Yet another great video about a very interesting scenario. I agree that battle IQ plays a huge part in this fight. Great video.
People don't understand how powerful grizzly and polar bears are. They are easily the most physically powerful land predators.
Yet can't score a one hit kill on other animals...
@@vinzentwallbach4251because that's not how they hunt. Lions and tigers will try to kill their prey as fast as possible whilst bears will just eat their preys alive. Bears are way stronger than big cats in every way possible. That's just a fact.
@@shrekhoodieguy5449 No offense but you just wrote an entire paragraph to basically say I'm right.
@@vinzentwallbach4251 I didn't say you were right. You seem to think that a liger could beat a grolar bear which is completely untrue. Bears are way stronger animals.
@@shrekhoodieguy5449 I never said I believed that. I am well aware bears are stronger. Hence why I am surprised they suck at killing quickly. And yes I know how cats hunt and that it's not the same and so on. I just think it's ironic.
The bear would have difficulty, but it would edge out simply because it knows what it's doing.
I have a feeling that the liger would actually get injured when it moves hard, due to the weight.
Big dog breeds have the same problems.
Now imagine something like a Short Face Bear.
Mike tyson would ko the short faced bear in a fight
You would have to compare the short faced bear to panthera atrox
It knows what it is doing? Lmfao god people are weird
@@TheReZisTLust Of course it does, it grew up in the wild unlike a glorified house cat.
@@thenarwhal7866 Funny enough, the short faced bear DID bully ancient big cats.
The most pointless video I’ve seen in a long time. Love it, keep up the good work.
Bear is always going to have the upper hand. They always have, even in prehistoric days.
Cave lions killed cave bears and today tigers kill brown bears black bears and polar bears
Prehistoric cats were much bigger, like the liger without drawbacks.
@@arisvalmonte793 short faced bear, nuff said.
@srobeck77 I know about the shortfaced bear, you don't know about all the extinct big cats
@@arisvalmonte793 they didnt even weight half as much, so theres that....
I’ve been waiting for this
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You’re underrated
Grolar bear wins mid diff if we’re talking about a zoo liger
A liger raised in the wild by a lion/tiger Would do better but the grolar bear still takes it extreme diff
Theoretically
i agree, siberian tigers occasionally clash with brown bears and the bear wins more often than not (albeit by a small margin) and i think the increased sizes of both animals scale nicely to make a good comparison assuming both are raised in the wild
@@adminbob_Yes, true, though the Siberian Tiger normally used ambush on brown bears. Also, Siberian tigers killed more Ursrie Brown bears before 1990, because in the wild, Siberian Tigers were larger before 1990. Today, the remaining Siberian tigers are smaller and normally do not hunt Brown bears as much as they "use to". Poachers have purposely killed off the larger specimens for trophy hunting and the herbal industry. Even worse than habitat destruction, poaching has effected the Siberian Tiger Gene pool so much that they are no longer the biggest Tiger species in the wild ( they "use" to be). Bengals are now larger, (their size has remained the same)
Wild liger would slam with Mid difficulty I mean there almost the same size a liger would be faster more agile and could able to cause greater destruction towards it a Kodiak bear would be pretty even
@@williamthornton5856
Or maybe all those stories about siberian tigers were fake
Always enjoy these videos, So entertaining
Well we certainly know what's not the strongest: Their genetics
I bet the grolar bear is the closest thing to a giant cave bear we have today. Same for the liger being a cave lion equivalent.
The Growler bear, sort of, similar to an old pre-historic csve bear somewhat; though a regular Grizzly fits cave bear better. Polar bears do not live in caves, Grizzly's sometimes do. The Liger, No WAY is it close to any pre-historic cat. A Liger has genetic issues causing health problems which would cause Negative issues, resulting in it likely not being able to survive in the wild. The genetics of polor bears and grizzly's are closer, do less chance of bad genetics, while Liins and Tigers are further apart genetically, thus their offspring has higher chances of genetic defects.
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True. The liger should not be existing.
The closest in size would be a Kodiak bear. same species as a grizzly but has the advantage of eating a higher protein diet, and thus grows larger. Some hit about 1400lbs.
a similar size bear usually would outlast a big cat. They have a lot more stamina in a battle. Cats are quick strike predators and they would throw in the towel quickly If they sensed they could not win or get seriously hurt.
I don't know for sure but I think pound for pound the cat would be stronger. There's a reason their stamina is so bad. It's a trade off for crazy explosive power. Cats might even be pound for pound the strongest animal of all.
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Their power is nothing in front of a bear's durability
@@NOU-iw3gb Tigers are known to hunt Bears, so that's wrong.
@gangweed3244 Injured,old or female and cubs brown bears. They don't even go near full grown, healthy male brown bears. And even when those type of bears have been hunted, there have been only a few cases.They have no chance with healthy, adult, male brown bears. Brown bears do the same to injured tigers and their cubs. Difference is that they are not intimidated by adult tigers.
@@gangweed3244 Stop spreading this misleading nonesense. A siberian tiger has never killed a fully healthy male or female bear in a head on fight.
Could't agree more with this assesment
That bear is going to be eating good for a couple of days.
Grolar wins without even using all its advantages.
There's not a big cat in the world that can beat a full grown male polar bear or Kodiak. Liger gets wrecked.
Grolar likely eats it. More over, theres every chance it doesnt even kill it before starting to eat it if theres a notable strength gap. Bears of both species are known to eat things alive with fair regularity.
Bears seem to leave tiger carcasses along if they find one though because it apparently taste really bad for them, which is saying a lot considering that Bears aren’t all that picky.
Someone has been watching and Leaning facts from Joe Rogan 🤣
Not disappointed, liked the video but I thought you said gorilla bear and that’s what intrigued me lol
You and a guy named Madly Mesozoic are very underrated yall kinda got like the same content topics that’s why i mentioned him
Bears have a much better build to support being that big. All the lions/tigers/ligers that get anywhere close to as big as a large bear seem to be too heavy for their frames.
I still love the ligers, such cool animals
In my opinion Grolar bear destroys.
What’s basically a over grown House cat against a absolute genetic monster of one of natures strongest animals.
This is honestly a no contest since we have to consider the battle IQ of the bear and just the brute power it has over the panther.
One happens naturally and another was made to happen just for the curiosity of it.
I will say tho, the Liger has some potential. But as it stands, the Bear takes this.
Great video as always holy shit🔥🔥
wonder how hard a Jaglion bites
Mistakes I can point out:
-Polar bear bite force is low due to having to penetrate only blubber, if grolar have heads in between polar and browns then should have a less powerful bite than the brown, but I guess not all grolars come the same.
-I'm yet to see video evidence of bear high "swipe strike force", there are videos of browns striking dogs and wolves, the result is not even a mark, they do move the target. There is lots of video evidence of tigers swipe strength, but only on other tigers that I remember (on dogs too but the intention is not damaging but stun and reposition, when is not for grabbing), and the result is what one can imagine of a colossal blow. For what I've seen, cats are more efficient in delivering a strike with the front paws, has to be due to it's anatomy. The difference in favor of a bear would be the big digging claws of a brown bear, not that the tiger claws are useless in "scratching", cutting, but in a swiping move I rather do it with long claws. They also help with the other big advantage of bears that is their wrestling abinstincts
hibernating (and cubs or subadults)
Polar bears don’t have low bite force and a full swipe from a grizzly bear doesn’t just “move” dogs
@@soupman163 Yes, polar bears have low bite force...1- see the zygomatic arches 2-justified as they eat blubber...And yes in all the videos I saw, swipe from brown bears result in no damage, only moving the dog/wolf and scaring them. Damage from brown bears, comes when bears grab the dog, embrace them, bite them and puncture with claws. Swipe does nothing. There are many videos showing this. One I can remember easy to find is the attack from many brown bears over one wolf in a zoo, killing it, another wolf came to the rescue and some brown bear swipe it, and nothing. But there are many videos in the wild. Same result, nothing.
Even a tiger can kill a liger. Grolar bear destroys it
Your estimate of Grizzly size and weight is that of young female grizzlies. Male grizzlies tend to be about 200lbs heavier and correspondingly larger.
You got me at "grolar". Anything named that comes as the favourite 10 times out of ten
Bears always win in a one-on-one death match. Unless Rhinoceros or African Elephant enters the chat.
Well look who it is
And your speaking facts too
bear wouldn't stand a chance against a hippo either
Or any big marine predator, but they are op asf.
I gotta put this out there... The liger is cappable of surviving on it's own if given the chance. They just need to be raised in the wild like the bears. People keep saying they are fat because they are a hybred wich biologicly sounds wrong. The experiance (both of mind and body) of having to hunt for food and forrgae like bears will do also, vastly changes the drive and personality of an animal. I'd love to see a few liger cubs get orpahned to a wild tigress and her raise them as her own. Then see what they turn into.
Overseer gave Liger a benifit of doubt. I would say that their speed is below 50km/h at best.
Below 80 km/ hr (50 mph). The big bear was listed at 24 mph from one being clocked by a car. He thought the Bear might be a little faster, (maybe in the high 20's). The Liger is faster than the bear, yes, but "no way" can it do 50 mph, like a Siberian Tiger.
I agree with what you mentioned in this video- a creature that only ever lives in a zoo would never beat a wild animal. However, I think that to be fair for the video, you should narrate as though there were healthy wild ligers living today. Otherwise, this is a great vid
Thanks for the feedback! Only thing is with little to no evidence of wild ligers and those we have today being plagued with health issues just means it’s a bit more in the “what if” territory to say the liger is capable of thriving when we just don’t know.
@TheOverseerDebates I definitely agree. Something I would have done had I been making the video would be to draw facts from large extinct cats, such as smilodon populator or the American cave lion. Researching statistics and behavior of these massive cats could give a good idea of how a healthy wild liger would act/fight.
If you face a similar situation like this in the future, I'd definitely recommend researching other similar animals to reach a conclusion that's more fair to both contenders
Brown bears have a rather incredible size range in different populations and by sex. There are probably 35 countries, though notably neither Mongolia or China are among them, where the average weight of a female adult human exceeds that of a female adult Gobi bear, and 2 or 3 where an average adult woman is larger than the largest individual female Gobi bear. Meanwhile, an adult male Kodiak bear is larger than some breeds of horse.
The Asiatic Lion once coexisted with The Bengal Tiger AND The Caspian Tiger which is now extinct.
My man pizzly bear has this
Do a video about a hypothetical battle between 20 kengal dogs amd a Grolar Bear
Pls do Bengal tiger vs mugger crocodile (both large individuals)
Sumatran tigers are already able to kill muggers. A bengal destroys
@@hakeeemquaviantavius No a decent size mugger is hard to kill for a Bengal tiger one called "machli" almost died killing a weak small sick and dehydrated one
@@poojathapa4940it wasnt a small weak mugger, it was quite large but it was away from water that why it got killed
@@rebelgaming4327 no it was 12 feet long and dehydrated and sick there is a whole article about this
@@poojathapa4940 th-cam.com/video/0ZXZsPOaImg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xMF4Sg4m5Y6epoTu
Pretty sure the croc was fine but got dehydrated and over heated during the fight
Both are tuff. 😊
We really need to let this debate go. No big cat or gorilla can stand In front of a grizzly bear or polar bear. Especially a polar bear, they will get torn to shreds. Let it go.
Kodiak bear destroys a polar or grizzly
Grolar bear or pizzly can still mate which is the scary part.
Weight is tricky with wild bears, especially brown and black bears. It fluctuates wildly depending on the time of year.
There's an amazing video of a pair of grizzly bears in flat out combat for over 15min. I don't think there's a cat alive that can sustain that.
Correct, there is a not a big cat on earth that would try and take down one of those bears in that video, Cats cannot afford any injury and there would be a lot of injuries trying to take on one of those.
One of the cut footage in this video is of two Tigers that fought for over 15 minutes.
@@jasonwigginsA Bear can swim a 100 miles, much more stamina and power. You see those tigers struggle with even small sloth bears, imagine what a prime 1000 pound plus bear would do.
@@powerboatguy2308 The Sloth Bear argument is ridiculous. It really is. Sloths are literally a part of a Tigers diet. There's a video on TH-cam of a rather small Tiger killing one in literal seconds. National Geographic has run articles about the Sloth being the most dangerous Bear species, specifically because they evolved side by side with Tigers. They know how to defend themselves against Tigers, but without any doubt whatsoever, Tigers kill Sloths.
They need to release groups of hybrids into the wild to allow the populations to grow
There is one pretty important factor ignored in this video and that is the claws. Bears have dull claws that are mostly used for digging while cat claws are razor sharp due to being protected from getting dulled down from walking on them.
I also finds the focus on current Ligers being limited to zoos a bit unfair as they can show up in the wild just as Grolar bears can be found in zoos.
Yeah, but bears that size have 8" of fat under their skin and regularly fight each other
Cat claws aren't used for slashing. In fact bear claws are much more suitable for that. Cat claws are only used for hooking on to their prey.
There's been no record of a Liger in the wild, it's hard to speculate with data that doesn't exist. In contrast however, Grolar Bears do occur in the wild, but our research on them isn't nearly as fleshed out as our research on captive Ligers.
I don't know if you've ever seen a bear up close, but they're huge. Even if the claws are comparatively dull with respect to the big cats, a spike/blade doesn't need to be razor sharp to do a lot of damage, it only needs to concentrate the force of the strike.
Source: I live in Canada and I've had Black Bears put their claws through my garbage cans, the big square kind with the heavy duty plastic. Black bears are small potatoes in this context, too.
I can't believe that you left out African Wild Dogs when mentioning African Lion's competitions. They can be overwhelming in large numbers.
overseer: no matter what animal you don't wanna mess with these hybrids
hippo: what you talking about
salt water crocodile: i want to eat him
elephant: should i be scared of that teddy
God can you imagine coming across a grolar bear in the wild? A grizzly bear with the attitude of a polar bear. Terrifying ngl
Hybrids of Tigers and lions probably occurred in the past when ranges overlapped many animals have hybrids even us humans.!. I have cats as generally winning at weight parity Tigers in the far east win more encounters with Brown bears according to the last paper I read, saying that the much smaller sloth bear n sometimes fend off the match larger bengal tiger. For me its a 50/50.
Love you videos
Happy to hear that
Heres one thing i find interesting.If Ligers were born and raised in the wild,they would be SO much more menacing.Nedding to work for prey its likely they wouldnt be as fat because in zoos all they do is eat,nap and walk around a bit.And if they were raised in the wild then they would certainly have better experiance and battle intelligence then their more domesticated versions.So a speculative wild liger would probably give a groler bear a better run for its money.
Facts
Light is built like Garfield
People often point to the fact that Siberian Tigers often have a small (tiny) percentage of their diet being brown bear but ignores that the "prey" is only of the very young, old, sick, hibernating or dead brown bears. On the other hand, the brown bears, as omnivores, tend to only hunt in the autumn, and early winter before hibernation and would not be chasing tigers. The tigers perhaps hunt smaller black bears.
the king of hybrids are mules. Not as fancy but proven worthy for thousands of years!
Liger would flatline of liver failure before the fight even began.
The biggest question of the grolar bear is: which species temperment does it possess? Is it mostly indifferent like a grizzly, or is it a psychopathic killer like a polar bear?
Usually the other way round, where the grizzly and polar bear meet in the wild the grizzly virtually always drives off the polar bear as they're far more aggressive.
@@sindento1942 I guess I meant towards humans.
Grizzlies are always the more aggressive in like a fighting sense. Polar bear is way more of a stalker killer. Things are patient, observant, and determined. Definitely the more terrifying since they will hunt you down, and you might not know it's even there. Grizzly would be the more aggressive though in just wondering up ready to fight though.
@@sindento1942 Not always. I saw the instance of grizzly fleeing from a polar.
Grolar bear? Clearly, that's a Pizzley!
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Hope so!
Grolar bears are from the same species of bear grizzly bears and polar bears are the same species they just have a few physical different characteristics due to their environment but they are scientifically the same species of bear I spent a couple of years in the Arctic and was informed by many locals that they’ve Ben known to mate together from time to time since forever
Can You Make Siberian Tiger vs Polar Bear Is The Video Coming?
I think comparing these animals would be unfair. These are hybrids and these animals do not exist in the wild, and hybrids are animals that stuggle to survive in most cases. But it is still cool to compare them.
Polar and brown bear hybrids do exist in the wild
@@siamzero9480*w u t*
Oh, I forgot about that...
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be compared
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Ligers could have as well historically.
That are literal brown bears that still has Polar bear DNA in them from their ancestors that mated with the polar bears.
Groler Bear happens far often to the point of having able to birth cubs that is not sterile like ligers do
Heck if you look at russia and alaska. Their territory literally hugs each other and all takes is one rogue polar bear going to warmer climated place and mate with the brown bears😅
A Kodiak bear can grow up to 1,600 lbs if a polar bear and Kodiak brown bear had a kid it’d be an insanely destructive killing machine.
No. The temperment of a Kodiak is more "low key" than either a Grizzly or a Polar bear.
"no matter what animal you are, you certainly wouldn't want to come face to face with this hybrid." argentinosaurus, barosaurus, tyrannosaurus, palaeoloxodon, triceratops, shantungosaurus, blue whale, deinosuchus, humpback whale, sperm whale and human with two flamethrowers in a giant truck covered in spikes: are we a joke to you?
I need more of this Aussie accent talking about wild animals. Nothing better than a wikd human describing wild animals with their wild accents. I love it!
Dude the biggest Kodiak bear ever recorded is 2130Lbs and largest polar bear recorded is 2209lbs and in the past 300 years or sooner there’s definitely been at least one of each that was never recorded 150-200lbs bigger than those
Liger has a heart attack before the fight even happens.
6:35 Elephants:
and hippos. And rhinos. and crocodiles. and giraffes. and moose.
You completely ignored the Liger’s magical skills
I wouldn't be surprised if it could technically hit 50 to 70 mph but would take an enormous amount of time to get there and would pass out from exhaustion immediately.
It would be a good fight but I’m leaning towards the liger
That’s like saying a Jona Hill would KO Mike Tyson
Anyone else notice Doc Antle from Tiger King's Cameo at 1:05?
The thing that's really important between the two ultimately comes down just to power. Speed won't matter for actually fighting, as both animals will be discarding how fast they can run and just hitting each other. In this area, a big bear like that is almost completely uncontested, and despite ligers being the biggest cats, I seriously doubt they'd ever be able to handle a massive bear like that, which is built very sturdy and pretty much designed to be both incredibly strong and resilient. A liger against a black bear is closer to even, but they'd still have the disadvantage that bears are just built sturdier than most other animals. There have been cases of bears actually taking bullets in the head and surviving it, and ligers could certainly injure them, but that's far too tough for them to kill one unless it gets very lucky.
Liger has too many unknowns. Animals in Captivity are not good demonstrations of the true capabilites of the animal. Remember that there were many "legends" of wild Ligers long before they were filmed at zoos
Ligers were used as the basis for saber-toothed tigers in the movie Quest for Fire. Production formed prosthetic saber teeth.
Since ligers can barely walk, I doubt this is a contest.
What
Crazy I just realized I met Hercules once. Quite the impressive sweetheart.
Brown, Grizzlies, and Polar Bears smash big cats 98% of the time
Bears are some of the best natural fighters, idk 98% but they'd win a majority
Siberian tigers hunt and kill usuri brown bears the size of grizzlies by ambushing them. Look it up.
@@daniels7717 It's an outdated information and mostly unproofable. Bears eat tigers alive.
next video of inostrancevia vs smilodon please
A 1980s (or before) male Siberian tiger could kill a Smilodon. "Today", Siberian Tigers in the wild, are significantly smaller, and it would be more difficult.
Which species of smilodon are you referring to? The two larger species would obliterate a Siberian tiger. The largest wild Siberian tigers never surpassed 300 kgs and now they average below 200 kgs. The smilodon fatalis, the second largest smilodon species, was said to have been able to surpass 350 kgs in Christansen and Harris (2005).
The largest Smilodon species, smilodon populator, was said to have been able to surpass 400 kgs according to the same study. However, according to a 2016 study by paleontologist Sherani, 400 kgs is likely and under estimation and 450 kgs is more likely.
Bear smokes the cat in toughness…..bears are extremely hard to hurt.
none of these could stand against a full grown african elephant
Every documentary I have seen about Ligers is since they are raised in captivity, they tend to be docile.
I came to the same conclusion, but I think you forgot that felines have much sharper claws
I think comparing the captive vs wild has to be added in the comparison title to make the comparison fair.
Great video I think the only chance liger would have is to get an unlimited explosive bite in the right spot
I love reading the comments and seeing humans act like they know everything, really shows me that we humans are ignorant and don't really know what we're talking about.
I am curious now if there’s much media at all of the tigons since from what I hear tigons don’t have much health issuers so they could potentially grow in mental to adapt on the wild and having a balanced size between tigers and female lions so it be a interesting thing to look on!
Yea the liger will die of stage 4 existence cancer before the fight even begins
It isn't just Grolar vs Liger. This is how it would go between any similar sized bear and cat. If they cat can't kill the bear quickly then it is better off running because it already lost.
Haven’t even watched the video and know the bear wins.
This reminds me of the accounts given by Roman gladiators in that bears almost always killed big cats when put up against one another. They can both inflict substantial damage but a bear has much more protection, in the form of thick fur and fat, than a big cat typically does. Also I feel like in the instances where they fought, it was described that the weight difference was a substantial factor and that bears often simply crushed the big cat.
The real question is which one you'd rather be alone in the woods with
Just saying but what if the liger wasn’t raised in captivity, and lived in the wild. Could it still win?
Good question. If the liger grew in the wild it would have a much better chance. Only issue is we don’t have any documented (as far as I know) evidence of how a liger would perform in the wild, hence leading us to rely on speculation.
Don’t forget about mules, they’re hybrids.
This is crazy! Would you rather have to fight a 7 lbs feral cat to the death or a 10 pound adult miniature wild bear? I'd take the bear
I think a liger could survive if given the opportunity in the wild
Bruh I think that Liger can't even fight properly while Pizzly is a combination of the 2 biggest and most powerful terrestrial predators currently. No matter, even if it could, in fight with big cats vs bears, bears always win, they are superior in almost every way.
If a liger was wild it overpowers a Grolar bear