I appreciate Shiras take on the searching, but i actually like how its all positive. You get the same feeling in the video game, when you see the shiny otwm indicator, you immediately get excited because you are going to get something to help you survive.
great review but I think it helps to remember that SFG games are not meant to impress board game veterans. They're made for fans of the IPs who want to be able to recreate the experience of the game with friends and family. I've introduced people to Resident Evil through the SFG games and they always love it
Also, the dice rolling is symbolic of fighting the enemies in the game. Lets say you use 3 bullets for a zombie and get 2 pushes but no damage. Then you use another 3 and finally get the 1 damage you needed. In theory, you just used 6 bullets to kill 1 zombie. In the games, sometimes thats how many bullets a zombie would take. You can easily use a full handgun on a HUnter to get 3 damage and in the game, thats fairly accurate
No its not, you never miss in resident evil 1, its really hard to do. So its helps calculate how much resources did you have, and will spend, but in the board game, its not working, you can shot with grenade launcher and spend all bullets and dont achieve any result, then you get disbalance into micromanagement.
I've got all of Resident Evil 2 and 3 from Steamforged. If this one goes the same way as the others: > It will stick very close to the video game's story. > There is no actual character progression, but you will likely unlock more characters, including advanced versions of some of the characters. > You will find more weapons that use multiple dice for one ammo / use the red dice. > There will be decent minis for each with variable poses. (There likely will be the problem with the Red Heads as they are just zombies with red heads in the game). > The tension deck will be getting gradually harsher as you go through the campaign. > The base box will be around half of the video game's story, but the expansion will finish off the story. > RE2 was not great for replayability (of the campaign), but RE3 was much better due to the open world in the base game, so I would expect this one to be even better. > RE2 and 3 were better played at 2 or 3 - 4 could get very hard. Some missions in RE2 you were very likely to run out of the tension deck (which fails the mission after the tutorial mission(s) if you played 4 player. I can definitely recommend the earlier ones. :)
I would agree that if you are used to traditional dungeon crawl board games that you want to level up the character however this is based on a video game that yes you get better weapons and ammo but your traditionally thrown into a survival horror atmosphere, where no matter how badass you think you should be in the real world the zombies and hunters would scare the crap out of you, a very much flight or fight situation game, I am looking forward to it :D
a 2 player game is much much more different than a 4 player. The testing scenario you guys did was easy. But later scenarios will increase enemies, limit resources and you also cant let the tension deck run out. so deck management is important and if you play with 4 players, you go through the deck much much faster than 2 players. and negative effects last much longer in a 4 player game.
From my impression of this setup, room cards. It looks, perhaps one row or column too small. As suggested, furniture, moving objects, cover.. interacting in a larger area to deal with each room is a complete mechanic of the video game, - 'complete exploration of individual areas' which we love to look for those hidden pick ups. Would be a nice touch.
Dont forget about the out of sequence reactions that enemies can make. It heavily enforces safe actions made by every player so that way you dont accidently puit your friend in a bad situation. I own both re 2 and 3 and went all in for RE and its by far one of the best coop game si ve played and as a huge RE die hard purist, it captures the game perfectly.
I have RE2 and the B files expansion on my cubby of shame, next to Dark Souls. I played one scenario solo and it was fun but nothing spectacular, but I’m curious maybe I need to just table it and go through the campaign because I do love resident evil.
How long are usually your recording sessions🤯, this is the third or fourth from one session it seems, content machines🤩 Now I'm torn, the raven doesn't really like it but the muskrat does and I can't pick between the 2😳
Have they improved the room tiles? They were so difficult to see in RE2. They were terribly dark, the detail on the doors was terrible and made navigation a struggle. It was only mildly improved in RE3
Having limited ammo and more dangerous individual zombies is very thematic and distinguishes this game from Zombicide, but I don't know if it would be as much fun. I'd rather kill zombies that close doors to avoid facing them.
I absolutely loved re2(went all in) and still haven't played through all of it. Why I passed on re3(and now regret doing so), but re1 is a must buy for me now
Judging from past game, there won't be any character progression, you can get better equipment but that is it. As for the randomness of the items, that will happen later on in the real campaign
I have the RE2 board game, which is cool too. But the room and door tiles are WAY too dark, it's pretty hard to tell what's really going on and if a door is open or not. Did they fix thix issue in the upcoming game?
If you're going to go back and explore the RE board games I would just try the most recent. I feel like RE2 will feel blah after a couple scenarios. I'm a huge RE fan, and 2 felt ok. RE3 felt like they def kicked it up a few notches.
Hey Alex, I have 2 questions: Can Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 be mixed in anyway (characters or monsters swapped around for example) and are they essentially the same games but in different settings with different characters? Have you played the Resident Evil DBG? It came out in the early days of Deck Building Games and was ahead of it's time I think with some of the mechanics it introduced (like having an upgradable character you play as). I still pull it out and play it occasionally.
Interesting what the thoughts are after playing RE1 and going back to RE3. The games have progressed for the better in my opinion. RE2 was fun but the setup and keeping track of the campaign was a pain. Especially if you start over. Been really loving RE3. Really looking forward to RE1 with the new mechanic of the mansion unfolding out in front of you.
that's how I feel about steamforged. They have some haters, and some pretty average games. But if you look at BGG ratings it makes me excited about the future. They've got some well liked recent games. I'm hopeful this game and bardsung will both be great!
Game is literally 10/10 RE experience and accurate adaptation of the best RE game ever made. Get it, this is a whole lot of stupid reasons not to like it tbh and if models are a big issue you know it's good!
I don't care about any resident evil board games like these. ALL I EVER WANT IS FOR BANNED FOOTAGE 21 CARD DECKS TO BE A THING TO BUY (trump cards included)
I am wondering will this one be a significant improvement compared to the 2 previous games. I did not try the previous ones but I saw that they are not really good. The company (Steamforged Games) seems like just wants to make easy quick money. It is pretty obvious, they are producing these Resident Evil games very often.. It's the same with Zombicide and CMON. These things are a no to me. However, if this one is an improvement compared to the previous 2 games, I might consider backing it because I really liked Resident evil back then. (Silent Hill was much much better though)
@@stephensturges5711 I only heard bad things about them.. maybe the 10th resident evil board game will be decent (if it won't be picked by a different company in the meantime) try some other games in the genre, you'll be surprised I think. These games are sold in big quantities because of the name and the popular zombi theme..
@@kristijan1985 lol what a shallow view. RER1 kickstarter surpassed a million dollars within its first day. Thats more than just from word of mouth and familiarity of the IP. Its because of people who own and have played re2 and 3. I'm curious as to what "bad things" youve heard. Also shallow that you allow other people's thoughts to impact your own. Please try and show us your reasoning.
also, 3 games within the span of 4 years isnt often. You even said youve never tried the previous ones yet you wanna run your mouth and say they are bad because of others??? lol jesus dude form your own opinion would ya?
@@stephensturges5711 man, that company is just about a money grab, the IP is selling those games. People are saying that those games are garbage.. I like the IP, I played a lot of RE when I was younger but I do not want to give even a penny for RE because those are bad games. there are a ton of much much better games out there. You should try some and I think you will throw it away into the garbage.
@@BoardGameCo If you have a source material based on puzzles and exploration and you spend 95% of your time fighting - something went wrong. And yes - i'm not a fan of dungeon crawlers.
I actually don't care much about the IP at all. I'll be playing RE3 soon enough so I'll be able to compare. Personally I really appreciate the threat each zombie provides, and the multiple non combat ways you have to handle them.
@@BoardGameCo I finally got around to playing my old copy of RE2 for the first time. I'm obsessed with the IP, so I know that taints my view of the game, but I really loved it. Quick turns, resource management (health / ammo), not knowing what the next scenario will bring. I do think they play best as a campaign where you're managing some of your resources from game to game, and there is a hard fail state.
Interesting. Still hesitating for this RE kickstarter... didn t get RE 2 or 3 because of SFG background (IMHO horizon zero dawn, dark soul the board game and RE2 were disappointing to me 😒)
@@fredericcourcy1915 For what its worth, I'm a huge Dark Souls fan as well, but I thought the board game by SFG was terrible and I really regret getting it. I personally liked RE2 so much, however, that it prompted me to get RE3 on Ebay and also back RE1. From what I can tell, their RE games keep getting better, and its likely RE1 will be their best one yet. That being said, I don't want to oversell the game either. Its on the lighter side, so if you only enjoy heavy games, then I think you'll be disappointed. On the plus side, it means the game plays really quick and doesn't feel like a slog (like DS). And I still have to make tough calls in regards to taking hits vs using ammo, just like in the video game. But again, that's all there is to it, really. Its not your brain burning Mage Knight, Spirit Island, Dungeon Alliance, etc. (which I also love). EDIT: Oh yeah, I just saw you say you were disappointed by RE2, I'm assuming you mean their campaign and/or components? If so, then I forgot to mention, that yes their components are just as bad in person as you might expect. Minis are very ok (solid step below CMON, maybe two steps). I'm sure you know RE2 tiles are plain awful. Art (subjective), to me, isn't great either. Components basically range from bad to serviceable, but unimpressive.
@@commandershepard9920 thanks Commander ! Great you love it. Component is important for me 😅 but gameplay wise I'll keep watching. What do you think of the imersion and difficulty ? (No need to be heavy but engaging and not on the easy part)
I appreciate Shiras take on the searching, but i actually like how its all positive. You get the same feeling in the video game, when you see the shiny otwm indicator, you immediately get excited because you are going to get something to help you survive.
great review but I think it helps to remember that SFG games are not meant to impress board game veterans. They're made for fans of the IPs who want to be able to recreate the experience of the game with friends and family. I've introduced people to Resident Evil through the SFG games and they always love it
Also, the dice rolling is symbolic of fighting the enemies in the game. Lets say you use 3 bullets for a zombie and get 2 pushes but no damage. Then you use another 3 and finally get the 1 damage you needed. In theory, you just used 6 bullets to kill 1 zombie. In the games, sometimes thats how many bullets a zombie would take. You can easily use a full handgun on a HUnter to get 3 damage and in the game, thats fairly accurate
No its not, you never miss in resident evil 1, its really hard to do. So its helps calculate how much resources did you have, and will spend, but in the board game, its not working, you can shot with grenade launcher and spend all bullets and dont achieve any result, then you get disbalance into micromanagement.
I've got all of Resident Evil 2 and 3 from Steamforged. If this one goes the same way as the others:
> It will stick very close to the video game's story.
> There is no actual character progression, but you will likely unlock more characters, including advanced versions of some of the characters.
> You will find more weapons that use multiple dice for one ammo / use the red dice.
> There will be decent minis for each with variable poses.
(There likely will be the problem with the Red Heads as they are just zombies with red heads in the game).
> The tension deck will be getting gradually harsher as you go through the campaign.
> The base box will be around half of the video game's story, but the expansion will finish off the story.
> RE2 was not great for replayability (of the campaign), but RE3 was much better due to the open world in the base game, so I would expect this one to be even better.
> RE2 and 3 were better played at 2 or 3 - 4 could get very hard. Some missions in RE2 you were very likely to run out of the tension deck (which fails the mission after the tutorial mission(s) if you played 4 player.
I can definitely recommend the earlier ones. :)
Lol, sounds about right so far. Really enjoying it but definitely wish there was more character progression and/or fun things to find.
I would agree that if you are used to traditional dungeon crawl board games that you want to level up the character however this is based on a video game that yes you get better weapons and ammo but your traditionally thrown into a survival horror atmosphere, where no matter how badass you think you should be in the real world the zombies and hunters would scare the crap out of you, a very much flight or fight situation game, I am looking forward to it :D
a 2 player game is much much more different than a 4 player. The testing scenario you guys did was easy. But later scenarios will increase enemies, limit resources and you also cant let the tension deck run out. so deck management is important and if you play with 4 players, you go through the deck much much faster than 2 players. and negative effects last much longer in a 4 player game.
I see you did not use the 3d terrain pack. It improves the table presrnce a lot! It has doors that open and close, it is so satisfying!
The 3D doors are AMAZING but sadly they're not in the Corebox, and they were only given a single scenario prototype.
From my impression of this setup, room cards. It looks, perhaps one row or column too small. As suggested, furniture, moving objects, cover.. interacting in a larger area to deal with each room is a complete mechanic of the video game, - 'complete exploration of individual areas' which we love to look for those hidden pick ups.
Would be a nice touch.
Dont forget about the out of sequence reactions that enemies can make. It heavily enforces safe actions made by every player so that way you dont accidently puit your friend in a bad situation. I own both re 2 and 3 and went all in for RE and its by far one of the best coop game si ve played and as a huge RE die hard purist, it captures the game perfectly.
Thanks everyone!!
Wondering what Alex didn't like about the new Zombiecide campaign🤔 Haven't tried it myself yet
Check out Zombicide 2nd edition vs Zombicide Black Plague, we go into it :)
@@BoardGameCo so you are not talking about Undead or ALive there?
I have RE2 and the B files expansion on my cubby of shame, next to Dark Souls. I played one scenario solo and it was fun but nothing spectacular, but I’m curious maybe I need to just table it and go through the campaign because I do love resident evil.
How long are usually your recording sessions🤯, this is the third or fourth from one session it seems, content machines🤩
Now I'm torn, the raven doesn't really like it but the muskrat does and I can't pick between the 2😳
Have they improved the room tiles? They were so difficult to see in RE2. They were terribly dark, the detail on the doors was terrible and made navigation a struggle. It was only mildly improved in RE3
These seem to be a drop lighter but not sure if enough, depends on the issues.
@@BoardGameCo this first two games were just too dark. You couldn’t really make out the room detail.
oh cool. I've been so desperate to see this one. Thanks for the early look guys!
I am a big fan of Resident Evil. Excited to see what the campaign brings
Likewise :)
Having limited ammo and more dangerous individual zombies is very thematic and distinguishes this game from Zombicide, but I don't know if it would be as much fun. I'd rather kill zombies that close doors to avoid facing them.
It's surprisingly fun :)
Great review. Thank you☺️
Anytime :)
I absolutely loved re2(went all in) and still haven't played through all of it.
Why I passed on re3(and now regret doing so), but re1 is a must buy for me now
I'm not as tempted by two, but I'm already enjoying three.
@@BoardGameCo I'm going to be picking up 3 soon enough.
Why not tempted by two?
@@liesureleeminis8268 same reason I don't get all the zombicide... There's only so many variations of the same game I want
@@BoardGameCo fair enough, I was moreso curious as to why re3 over re2.
Judging from past game, there won't be any character progression, you can get better equipment but that is it. As for the randomness of the items, that will happen later on in the real campaign
U can upgrade the character to "advance" after certain conditions are met but other then that no other upgrade for characters.
Looking forward to getting in on this Kickstarter
I have the RE2 board game, which is cool too. But the room and door tiles are WAY too dark, it's pretty hard to tell what's really going on and if a door is open or not. Did they fix thix issue in the upcoming game?
RE3 fixed this tremendously!
When and where can I purchase this from?
From Steamforged games, right now on Kickstarter.
Am I the only one who wants Quack & Co. To keep using Alex's studio forever..?
If you're going to go back and explore the RE board games I would just try the most recent. I feel like RE2 will feel blah after a couple scenarios. I'm a huge RE fan, and 2 felt ok. RE3 felt like they def kicked it up a few notches.
When we will see gameplay video? I know that there is one in TTS, but i would like to see "unplugged" one :D
Look forward to a review of re:3!
Hey Alex, I have 2 questions:
Can Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 be mixed in anyway (characters or monsters swapped around for example) and are they essentially the same games but in different settings with different characters?
Have you played the Resident Evil DBG? It came out in the early days of Deck Building Games and was ahead of it's time I think with some of the mechanics it introduced (like having an upgradable character you play as). I still pull it out and play it occasionally.
i'm really curious to hear you'r opinion on RE3 and to wach the gamplay. I'm a fan of the old gamesbut i'm not attracted by their board game version.
Interesting what the thoughts are after playing RE1 and going back to RE3. The games have progressed for the better in my opinion. RE2 was fun but the setup and keeping track of the campaign was a pain. Especially if you start over. Been really loving RE3. Really looking forward to RE1 with the new mechanic of the mansion unfolding out in front of you.
that's how I feel about steamforged. They have some haters, and some pretty average games. But if you look at BGG ratings it makes me excited about the future. They've got some well liked recent games. I'm hopeful this game and bardsung will both be great!
Hello all . Does anyone know if there will be an Italian translation of this game ? Thx !
Apologies I'm not sure
Game is literally 10/10 RE experience and accurate adaptation of the best RE game ever made. Get it, this is a whole lot of stupid reasons not to like it tbh and if models are a big issue you know it's good!
I'm not sure what you watched, but I'm very positive on the game.
Didn't say you said that or meant that, just that I strongly recommend it and thought the downsides were very mild
@@BoardGameCo
And I thought I am the only person on this planet that doesnt like zombicide :D
I don't care about any resident evil board games like these. ALL I EVER WANT IS FOR BANNED FOOTAGE 21 CARD DECKS TO BE A THING TO BUY (trump cards included)
I am wondering will this one be a significant improvement compared to the 2 previous games. I did not try the previous ones but I saw that they are not really good. The company (Steamforged Games) seems like just wants to make easy quick money. It is pretty obvious, they are producing these Resident Evil games very often.. It's the same with Zombicide and CMON. These things are a no to me. However, if this one is an improvement compared to the previous 2 games, I might consider backing it because I really liked Resident evil back then. (Silent Hill was much much better though)
i dont knwo what you saw but both re2 and 3 are fantastic games. I own and heavily play both.
@@stephensturges5711 I only heard bad things about them.. maybe the 10th resident evil board game will be decent (if it won't be picked by a different company in the meantime) try some other games in the genre, you'll be surprised I think. These games are sold in big quantities because of the name and the popular zombi theme..
@@kristijan1985 lol what a shallow view. RER1 kickstarter surpassed a million dollars within its first day. Thats more than just from word of mouth and familiarity of the IP. Its because of people who own and have played re2 and 3. I'm curious as to what "bad things" youve heard. Also shallow that you allow other people's thoughts to impact your own. Please try and show us your reasoning.
also, 3 games within the span of 4 years isnt often. You even said youve never tried the previous ones yet you wanna run your mouth and say they are bad because of others??? lol jesus dude form your own opinion would ya?
@@stephensturges5711 man, that company is just about a money grab, the IP is selling those games. People are saying that those games are garbage.. I like the IP, I played a lot of RE when I was younger but I do not want to give even a penny for RE because those are bad games. there are a ton of much much better games out there. You should try some and I think you will throw it away into the garbage.
GoQuack sounds nice :P.
Seems like normal dungeon crawler. Pass for me.
Because you don't like dungeon crawlers or because this just doesn't seem special enough within the genre.
@@BoardGameCo If you have a source material based on puzzles and exploration and you spend 95% of your time fighting - something went wrong. And yes - i'm not a fan of dungeon crawlers.
@@mateuszkiszlo1059 that's not an accurate description of the game at all
Hmm..I found RE3 to be a generic dungeon crawler. The IP elevated it but the gameplay was mediocre.
I actually don't care much about the IP at all. I'll be playing RE3 soon enough so I'll be able to compare. Personally I really appreciate the threat each zombie provides, and the multiple non combat ways you have to handle them.
@@BoardGameCo I finally got around to playing my old copy of RE2 for the first time. I'm obsessed with the IP, so I know that taints my view of the game, but I really loved it. Quick turns, resource management (health / ammo), not knowing what the next scenario will bring. I do think they play best as a campaign where you're managing some of your resources from game to game, and there is a hard fail state.
Interesting. Still hesitating for this RE kickstarter... didn t get RE 2 or 3 because of SFG background (IMHO horizon zero dawn, dark soul the board game and RE2 were disappointing to me 😒)
@@fredericcourcy1915 For what its worth, I'm a huge Dark Souls fan as well, but I thought the board game by SFG was terrible and I really regret getting it. I personally liked RE2 so much, however, that it prompted me to get RE3 on Ebay and also back RE1. From what I can tell, their RE games keep getting better, and its likely RE1 will be their best one yet.
That being said, I don't want to oversell the game either. Its on the lighter side, so if you only enjoy heavy games, then I think you'll be disappointed. On the plus side, it means the game plays really quick and doesn't feel like a slog (like DS). And I still have to make tough calls in regards to taking hits vs using ammo, just like in the video game.
But again, that's all there is to it, really. Its not your brain burning Mage Knight, Spirit Island, Dungeon Alliance, etc. (which I also love).
EDIT: Oh yeah, I just saw you say you were disappointed by RE2, I'm assuming you mean their campaign and/or components? If so, then I forgot to mention, that yes their components are just as bad in person as you might expect. Minis are very ok (solid step below CMON, maybe two steps). I'm sure you know RE2 tiles are plain awful. Art (subjective), to me, isn't great either. Components basically range from bad to serviceable, but unimpressive.
@@commandershepard9920 thanks Commander ! Great you love it. Component is important for me 😅 but gameplay wise I'll keep watching. What do you think of the imersion and difficulty ? (No need to be heavy but engaging and not on the easy part)
Quack!