I won't forget Brundle's quote with that must be the grippiest car in F1 history, that W11 was something else and the icing on the cake of Mercedes and Lewis 7 year dominance in F1.
@@robfer5370 This is what people forget - FIA did everything to stop and slow Mercedes over those last 6 years. DAS didn't even last a year before being banned )Merc were allowed to keep using it but had been told it was banned. I'm waiting to see if FIA start trying to slow Red Bull down - even Max isn't denying they have the best car on the grid by far.
@robfer5370 the same thing has happened for a long while. You could argue that skirts were banned to hurt Lotus, or active suspension to hurt Williams, or Bridgestone tyres to hurt Schumi era Ferrari, or V6 hybrids were introduced to hurt Vettel era RB. Sure, some of those were for safety reasons, but changes have always been made to the regs that hurt one team more than the others. People seem to forget the illegal tests that Mercedes did to get a headstart on the hybrid power units. Now we have a new set of regs that has made RB insanely strong. I just hope it doesn't take 6 years to get a real championship battle again.
@@nice900 Technically yes. But some drivers have proven themselves in all sorts of machinery times and times again. Some drivers can't perform great without near flawless cars.
I've never seen another car look as completely on rails as the W11 does. I consider it to be one of the greatest automobiles ever made. The cornering speed and insane stability makes looks almost fake.
@e2rqey The W11 will forever be my favourite F1 car. Not only because it gave Hamilton his 7th title but also because we got to see it on some high downforce tracks that came because of COVID; the likes of Portimao, Istanbul Park, Nurburgring and arguably the most impressive of them all Mugello. These tracks really did show off how perfect the car was. I echo your words; I too have never seen a car so capable, it's an absolute mechanical masterpiece.
I think the lap record would have been made in 2018 if the Q3 would have been dry. I wouldn't say the RB18 was dominant because Ferrari for the first half of the season was better.
In 2020 I commented that W11 won't be beaten in a decade. So far it looks like I was right considering from 2026 the engines will be slower. It's also now the most valuable car in the world. The Silverstone chassis where Lewis won with 3 tyres was recently sold to the Saudi prince and will be delivered to him in 2026. That chassis only raced 1 race. And the price that the Saudi paid was 9 figures. (Anyone who knows how to look at public company report can tell that but the number that it was sold was 250M, which is nuts, although that's the only hybrid F1 car ever sold with the engine but still that's nuts)
@@datNERO17not when there’s no race at all like in 2021 were everyone just waited around for 3 hours only to cancel the whole thing lol. The only thing that would make it exciting is if Lewis gets pole again and they just end it under safety car like in 21, Mercedes fans would loose their shit and call him the goat 😂😂.
Can't wait to see the RB18 vs the RB19. 2023 cars on many occasions have been 1+ seconds faster than 2022 cars, so can't wait to see how much closer it is to the W11
Not necessarily. In hungary, they were only 7 tenths faster from last year and used softer tyres this year compared to last. Also friday is expected to be wet so we wont be seeing any faster times.
@@KimGee241 Actually, this year's cars got surprisingly close to 2020 cars. sadly, both qualifying sessions for 2023 were wet so you cant compare 2020 and 2023 qualifying but we can compare the race laps since both races were dry. fastest 2020 lap was set by ricciardo at 1:47.4 while the fastest 2023 lap was set by lewis hamilton at 1:47.3 which is marginally faster than 2020's lap but lewis set his lap on fresh mediums while I don't remember what state tyres ricciardo was on. lewis or ricciardo might've also had tow and/or drs so its not an apples to apples comparison but it shows that 2023 are relatively close to 2020 cars on high speed tracks since that's where the ground effect really helps
@@OscarZheng50 1.5s that's the closest time they can go against w11 the 2nd fastest car still that comes close to this is wayback in 2018 Ferrari the sf71h.
WoW - what a brilliant video & great comparison & helping early birds get idea of the level of complexity & the height of technology F1 represents. GREAT WORK mate
Great video! There was no way to find a lap of the RB18 at Spa with telemetry. It amazes me that last year we called the RB18 "dominant" without knowing what would come next year. From last year to this, the cars have improved by about 8 tenths, the following two years until the terrible 2026 regulations come into force the improvement will surely be less, let's say half a second each year. With that, by 2025 we'd have cars just 1.4 seconds slower than the W11 at Spa, quite an achievement if you ask me. Unless FIA throws some TD39-esque shitty regulations, the RB21 will be an absolute beast.
@@lovromedic2822 I don't think so, and sadly, all the weekend will be wet. On top of that, qualifying will be held on Friday after only one FP session, which will mean the setup won't be as ideal
@@sergioferrero46 i think also progress could be linear trough whole 4 seasons because ground effect is hugely unexplored at this level while standard aerodinamics had like 30 years of exploration
@@SamOzz42but didnt won all the races the end oh by the way George in his Williams lap time is faster than rb18 so Does it mean that tractor Williams is faster than rb 18 let Alone 19 yes W11 is faster but diferent betwen faster and dominant is so diferent😊
@@user-wy5xe6ht2mw11, w05 and w07 are easily more dominant cars compared to the rest of the field when in comparison with rb18/19. The team had mistakes that's why they didn't win all the races.
@@emiliolabrin8302I think it was but “technically” because he had a penalty for replacement parts is the reason why he started P14 and didn’t get a “official” pole lap filmed. Even tho he won pole that day
I never thought I’d ever see a car go through Pouhon flat out. The fact that Lewis could do it repeatedly with this car just illustrates that this car was a damn Mutant..
And Lulu says the RB19 is the fastest car he has ever seen LOL!!! He surely has a short time memory problem, wonder if he even remembers the W11. Set up for wet weather still beating the new cars with 2 sec. That W11 cost $500 mil, the RB18 cost $145mil so that's $147mil per second extra, don't think the RB18 is doing too bad for a car 1/3rd the price tag.
Speed wise with DRS the rb19 is a rocket. The W11 was the best packaged car not just speed it was the handling that put it in front of its competitors.
its not only money. The cars today produce more power, and have the advantage of technology regardless of the lesser price tag. If you look the footage, you will see where the old car/s dominate the new - acceleration and slower+mid corners. The reason - they were lighter. 746 vs 798 kg, max power output: 1,025 hp vs 1,080 hp. Both cars are the best, in their respectful regulations. Don't know if the fuel is different, that can also contribute to the difference in lap time.
@@Adhrtme there's no way the 50kg is responsible for 24 tenths, the W11 had enough downforce to sink the asphalt, so much so the MotoGP drivers were affected by it in all the circuits they were sharing. There may as well be a power deficit from the E10 Fuel they're using
the RB18 isn't as dominant as the W11, in the first 13 races of 2022 the SF75 was as fast as the rb18 (including in sundays but depends on the track) the rb18 became clear after the TD applied in spa (pushed by mercedes so probably mercedes helped redbull to become the force we are seeing now)
Yes, ironically Mercedes helped RB to get clear from every team thanks to TD39 they lobbied for with the hope of catching up to both Ferrari & RB. Turns out half of their wish became true. Monkey's paw moment.
I’ve got to say the best way imo go enjoy f1 is the ignore the fans and off the track stuff and focus on the beauty of the sport. The melding of technology and humanity, the collective efforts of everyone working towards a singular goal (to go as fast as possible) and poetry through angles and numbers!
it was a pretty small lift last year for these cars through pouhon, could we potentially see pouhon flat again if we get dry conditions (there is 2 qualis remember)?
1:30 as example. As amazing as both these drivers are……it’s crazy to see how precise Lewis’ throttle input is. You can see it increase bar by bar steadily. Max”s jumps a few bar at a time. Also the W11 must have been a smoother ride as you can see the bumpier ride of the RB affect Max’s input at times.
Also track limits were different in 2020. You can see that hamilon is able to go further outside the track in a lot of corners which also adds to the time difference
I remember the period 2019-2020 but much more 2020 that Mercedes more specifically W11 Hamilton's car was overwhelming on the track the team dominated from end to end and the onboards was seen that the car had a tremendous grip to the track and a very serious fast cornering.
People said the same for 2004, but 14 years later, Raikkonen broke the record at Monza. If the new engine regulations really are as slow as they are predicting, they will probably return to a bigger engine formula (maybe similar to the current lmh regs) after about maybe 4 or 5 years since it will just be embarassing for F1 for them to have such slow cars.
W11 was the final edition of those hybrid monsters after 6-7 years of improvement in aerodynamics and tyre technology coz those time we had so many tyre compounds(Super softs, hypersofts)but this RB18 is only the first of grounf effect cars. 2025 we'll see much more speed. This year alone might be around 7-8 tenths faster than 2022
I wouldn't be surprised if RedBull bring back the rake ride height to increase the depth of the ground effect underfloor and lower the upper aero elements further.
So basically rhis years car is still +1 second slower than the W11. (We can't compare the lap time of this year pole, the track was kinda wet but we know that this year's RB is almost 1s faster than the last year's, so...)
I say not bad for a car at the start of new regulations, much heavy, bigger wheels VS a car at the end of a much different regulations, with lighter chassis and smaller wheels
Clearly the smaller, lighter car with more down force will be faster. The Regulations are there to slow down the cars. Comparing 2022 vs 2023 would be interesting to see the gains by the teams under the same regs
The w11 simply looks like it just hits harder. When going under braking ontop of the hill after the long straight he tips it in and is right on throttle, then a tiny lift and back to full power then flat through the next one. That’s absurd. Lewis was truly one with that machine
Yea definitely look how well his car is doing now LOL!!! You could strap that 2014-2012 Merc PU to a shopping cart and it would still blow 3/4 of the grid out of the water. And before you start saying that he didn't build the W13/14, the zero side pod idea was his baby, he was still on the team that designed it don't believe me just ask Peter Windsor.
@@gealingeman8643merc engine was only dominant in 2014-16 series of cars. Funnily enough Renault had the fastest engine in 2020. Mercedes became a rocketship in the late half of 2021. It’s the handling and the grip that makes w11 the fastest f1 car ever.
In 2022, Spa was the first race with the TD39 being applied. It also turned out to be the first race where RB dominated having an enormous pace advantage over the Ferrari.....WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!
Because Ferrari couldn't use a loophole anymore that was cleared up with the new TD39. Ferrari still hasn't fully recovered from that. It broke their neck. Ironically Mercedes thought getting rid of that loophole with the TD39 would hurt RB the most, only for RB to be faster than ever.
@@ey1615 What kind of loophole are you talking about? Ferrari used to loophole. They had a car which was 100% regular according to the 2022 rules. Than the FIA cracked under Wolff's pressure of raising the cars and Ferrari lost a lot more downforce than RB because the Ferrari was more dependant on ground effect.
Am of the opinion we didnt need the 2022 regs. The cars were converging by 21, they should have put the 2026 regs as the target and found ways to make the cars smaller with that period of time.
2:24 what is interesting to see how redbull has 1km/h more at exit of pouhon despite the initial lift and lower entry speed. My conclusion is lewis missed apex and added more steering to correct trajectory which scrubbed off his speed quite a bit
@@charleswilfred6463At least Max managed to get wins with an above decent car while Merc were dominating. I would bet Max would at least get a win in that Merc.
@@LucassenR Not really. It's not that the Merc is a above decent car, it's that the Redbull is too fast compared to the rest of the grid. Even Checo, a midfield driver to be honest, can easily finish p2 in any race, if we ignore all the mistakes he has made in qualifying due to pressure from Max.
Halo HUD 2018-2023 and why 2023 needs improvement: th-cam.com/video/_f1j-Db1qC4/w-d-xo.html
W11 going flat out at Pouhon will forever be legendary
i think Lando also did Pouhon flat out in 2022
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmmno that was 2020 too
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm2022 😂
@@TommmmmmmmmmmmSetsuna Yuki, Ayumu Uehara, Shioriko Mifune, and Oscar Piastri all also taken Pouhon flat out in 2023.
@@alcrack39962023 says hello.
We NEED lighter cars without compromising safety
Get rid of the nonsense batteries and motors then.
There is no way we can have lighter cars without sacrificing the safety
@@octomanarie2965yes there is. You dump the batteries, MGUH and MGUK. Then you make them smaller, now you’ve got some margin to make them even safer
@@octomanarie2965 You underestimate humans and modern technology.
@@octomanarie2965 They're already too safe.
I won't forget Brundle's quote with that must be the grippiest car in F1 history, that W11 was something else and the icing on the cake of Mercedes and Lewis 7 year dominance in F1.
Yep and because no one could beat them, the FIA changed the rules to more favor Red Bull and hinder the Mercedes. 👍
@@robfer5370 This is what people forget - FIA did everything to stop and slow Mercedes over those last 6 years. DAS didn't even last a year before being banned )Merc were allowed to keep using it but had been told it was banned.
I'm waiting to see if FIA start trying to slow Red Bull down - even Max isn't denying they have the best car on the grid by far.
@@robfer5370Yeah but let's not hope that they slow them down now. Another 5 years of this would be great lol
@@charleswilfred6463 Why would 5 years of no racing upfront be great?
@robfer5370 the same thing has happened for a long while. You could argue that skirts were banned to hurt Lotus, or active suspension to hurt Williams, or Bridgestone tyres to hurt Schumi era Ferrari, or V6 hybrids were introduced to hurt Vettel era RB. Sure, some of those were for safety reasons, but changes have always been made to the regs that hurt one team more than the others. People seem to forget the illegal tests that Mercedes did to get a headstart on the hybrid power units.
Now we have a new set of regs that has made RB insanely strong. I just hope it doesn't take 6 years to get a real championship battle again.
Track limits were different in 2020 too, that can count for few tenths.
Those were good times
Track limits rules back in 2020 are better than the track limit rules now imo
@@megumi_4493 just look at Austria I mean it's a yoke
@@megumi_4493 Better of worse, but Hamilton lap with 2022 (2023) rules would be a little bit slower.
@@Oziverse1610 Put a grass strip there and it wouldn't be a problem anymore.
I am a Red Bull supporter since Seb's era but damn W11 is a god tier car
@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593 im not a hamilton fan but every driver is a car merchant
@@nice900
Technically yes. But some drivers have proven themselves in all sorts of machinery times and times again. Some drivers can't perform great without near flawless cars.
@@jairajsinghshaktawat6593do you understand that the W11 was mercedes F1 car for a single season? welcome to the sport.
I've never seen another car look as completely on rails as the W11 does. I consider it to be one of the greatest automobiles ever made. The cornering speed and insane stability makes looks almost fake.
@e2rqey The W11 will forever be my favourite F1 car. Not only because it gave Hamilton his 7th title but also because we got to see it on some high downforce tracks that came because of COVID; the likes of Portimao, Istanbul Park, Nurburgring and arguably the most impressive of them all Mugello. These tracks really did show off how perfect the car was.
I echo your words; I too have never seen a car so capable, it's an absolute mechanical masterpiece.
The 2020 pole lap was on wet setup
Imagine the time at the end with a dry setup
In the 1:40s easily.
@@peeturpain9379 delusional it wont be even close to that in 5 years
2:16 That Mercedes was something else.
I think the lap record would have been made in 2018 if the Q3 would have been dry. I wouldn't say the RB18 was dominant because Ferrari for the first half of the season was better.
The only tracks where the ferrari was clearly faster was australia, monaco, Spain and Austria. they were not faster overall in the first half
2020 still op
@@andrewmelton2686Still can’t really call it dominant though.
2020 was generally faster than 2018, so most likely not even if the latter season's qualifying were dry.
Vettel in 2018 did 1.41.5 in q2. With track evolution and a little more engine power, probably 1.41.2 was possibile. About same of 2020
In 2020 I commented that W11 won't be beaten in a decade. So far it looks like I was right considering from 2026 the engines will be slower. It's also now the most valuable car in the world. The Silverstone chassis where Lewis won with 3 tyres was recently sold to the Saudi prince and will be delivered to him in 2026. That chassis only raced 1 race. And the price that the Saudi paid was 9 figures. (Anyone who knows how to look at public company report can tell that but the number that it was sold was 250M, which is nuts, although that's the only hybrid F1 car ever sold with the engine but still that's nuts)
yup well at this point they will never be as dominant
the newer cars*
2026 engines wont be slower? Curious where you got that conclusion
@@basedindividual5990from the new regs (there's a detailed explanation with quite a bit of engineering involved here on yt)
Can you provide an article about the Saudi customer's purchase?
Damn, the W11 was a work of art.
cant wait for this weekend to see RB19 laps tbh
No fast laps unfortunately. They expect a lot of rain 😫
@@BansheeRiderNLAh s*** , here we go again…
@@alex_rzn440 Rain in spa is the best though
@@datNERO17not when there’s no race at all like in 2021 were everyone just waited around for 3 hours only to cancel the whole thing lol. The only thing that would make it exciting is if Lewis gets pole again and they just end it under safety car like in 21, Mercedes fans would loose their shit and call him the goat 😂😂.
RAIN, it's will raining !
Can't wait to see the RB18 vs the RB19. 2023 cars on many occasions have been 1+ seconds faster than 2022 cars, so can't wait to see how much closer it is to the W11
Not necessarily. In hungary, they were only 7 tenths faster from last year and used softer tyres this year compared to last. Also friday is expected to be wet so we wont be seeing any faster times.
@@OscarZheng50 Wrong on both accounts. Russel did a 1:17.3 last year. Hamilton did a 1:16.6. Actual watch the races before spouting nonsense.
One thing for sure It wil not touch w11.
@@KimGee241 Actually, this year's cars got surprisingly close to 2020 cars. sadly, both qualifying sessions for 2023 were wet so you cant compare 2020 and 2023 qualifying but we can compare the race laps since both races were dry. fastest 2020 lap was set by ricciardo at 1:47.4 while the fastest 2023 lap was set by lewis hamilton at 1:47.3 which is marginally faster than 2020's lap but lewis set his lap on fresh mediums while I don't remember what state tyres ricciardo was on. lewis or ricciardo might've also had tow and/or drs so its not an apples to apples comparison but it shows that 2023 are relatively close to 2020 cars on high speed tracks since that's where the ground effect really helps
@@OscarZheng50 1.5s that's the closest time they can go against w11 the 2nd fastest car still that comes close to this is wayback in 2018 Ferrari the sf71h.
Love that with the Merc you can still hear the engine compared to just the whine of the Red bull
Very, very interesting comparison! Thanks for the detailed explanation again, love them
WoW - what a brilliant video & great comparison & helping early birds get idea of the level of complexity & the height of technology F1 represents. GREAT WORK mate
Love your videos man, great content as always ! Keep doing this great work !
Great comparisson! Espec with the relevant info abt track, set up and technical differences 👍
Great video! There was no way to find a lap of the RB18 at Spa with telemetry. It amazes me that last year we called the RB18 "dominant" without knowing what would come next year. From last year to this, the cars have improved by about 8 tenths, the following two years until the terrible 2026 regulations come into force the improvement will surely be less, let's say half a second each year. With that, by 2025 we'd have cars just 1.4 seconds slower than the W11 at Spa, quite an achievement if you ask me. Unless FIA throws some TD39-esque shitty regulations, the RB21 will be an absolute beast.
it still does not mean it was not dominant.Just because it is stronger this year does not negate its dominace last season
Bro RB19 will be around 1.4 seconds slower at spa if it will be dry mark my words
@@lovromedic2822 I don't think so, and sadly, all the weekend will be wet. On top of that, qualifying will be held on Friday after only one FP session, which will mean the setup won't be as ideal
@@sergioferrero46 i think also progress could be linear trough whole 4 seasons because ground effect is hugely unexplored at this level while standard aerodinamics had like 30 years of exploration
2026 regulations are going to be so bad
That red bull sound is just absolute fire 🔥
all the sounds were from the w11
@@soop1724 nope
absolute washing machine
Sounds like an aggressive lawnmower
Never seen the full W11 telemetry video at Spa. Thank you!
man, your editing sure has become top notch. nice stuff dude
w11 what a beast
Yes the won all races that year oh wait 😂
@@user-wy5xe6ht2mliterally the fastest f1 car ever 😭😂
@@SamOzz42but didnt won all the races the end oh by the way George in his Williams lap time is faster than rb18 so Does it mean that tractor Williams is faster than rb 18 let Alone 19 yes W11 is faster but diferent betwen faster and dominant is so diferent😊
@@user-wy5xe6ht2mw11, w05 and w07 are easily more dominant cars compared to the rest of the field when in comparison with rb18/19. The team had mistakes that's why they didn't win all the races.
@@shaikolm w11 is definiatly not dominant as either of rb18 or rb19
the best breakdowns, thanks friendo!
I will absolutely never forgive F1tv for not showing Max's spa pole lap
Bc its not the pole lap
@@emiliolabrin8302I think it was but “technically” because he had a penalty for replacement parts is the reason why he started P14 and didn’t get a “official” pole lap filmed. Even tho he won pole that day
Get outa here
This is brilliant, thanks for the video.
W11 a beast of modern motorsport, there won't be a more dominant car for a long time.
Brilliant content and backhand research. Keep it up 👍🏻
best f1 breakdown channel hands down.
I never thought I’d ever see a car go through Pouhon flat out. The fact that Lewis could do it repeatedly with this car just illustrates that this car was a damn Mutant..
Would really like to see a comparison or analysis of Verstappen's pole today, it was really fast considering wet and cold track
Impressive work on this video
And Lulu says the RB19 is the fastest car he has ever seen LOL!!! He surely has a short time memory problem, wonder if he even remembers the W11. Set up for wet weather still beating the new cars with 2 sec. That W11 cost $500 mil, the RB18 cost $145mil so that's $147mil per second extra, don't think the RB18 is doing too bad for a car 1/3rd the price tag.
Speed wise with DRS the rb19 is a rocket. The W11 was the best packaged car not just speed it was the handling that put it in front of its competitors.
of course we got the rbclowns
its not only money. The cars today produce more power, and have the advantage of technology regardless of the lesser price tag. If you look the footage, you will see where the old car/s dominate the new - acceleration and slower+mid corners. The reason - they were lighter. 746 vs 798 kg, max power output: 1,025 hp vs 1,080 hp. Both cars are the best, in their respectful regulations. Don't know if the fuel is different, that can also contribute to the difference in lap time.
@@herbertlandzeh4404
Weird way to spell hamiltards
@@Adhrtme there's no way the 50kg is responsible for 24 tenths, the W11 had enough downforce to sink the asphalt, so much so the MotoGP drivers were affected by it in all the circuits they were sharing. There may as well be a power deficit from the E10 Fuel they're using
Great video
Welcome back mate 🧉 🎉
the RB18 isn't as dominant as the W11, in the first 13 races of 2022 the SF75 was as fast as the rb18 (including in sundays but depends on the track) the rb18 became clear after the TD applied in spa (pushed by mercedes so probably mercedes helped redbull to become the force we are seeing now)
Yes, ironically Mercedes helped RB to get clear from every team thanks to TD39 they lobbied for with the hope of catching up to both Ferrari & RB. Turns out half of their wish became true. Monkey's paw moment.
Yeah, plus canada 2022 ground changes
Awesome, video!
Something that I can’t understand is: why the cars are heavier now if they are smaller? 18 inches wheels?
Great vid
I will never forget that flatout Pouhon in my life. What a lap by Lewis! GOAT W11!
I’ve got to say the best way imo go enjoy f1 is the ignore the fans and off the track stuff and focus on the beauty of the sport. The melding of technology and humanity, the collective efforts of everyone working towards a singular goal (to go as fast as possible) and poetry through angles and numbers!
it was a pretty small lift last year for these cars through pouhon, could we potentially see pouhon flat again if we get dry conditions (there is 2 qualis remember)?
In corners the difference is huge
All down to the tire & wheel changes
1:30 as example. As amazing as both these drivers are……it’s crazy to see how precise Lewis’ throttle input is. You can see it increase bar by bar steadily. Max”s jumps a few bar at a time. Also the W11 must have been a smoother ride as you can see the bumpier ride of the RB affect Max’s input at times.
That also affects throttle input
Spa is where you get to really see the differences year over year
Yelistener will you do another comparison after this weekend with the RB19?
miss your vids man come backkk
Also track limits were different in 2020. You can see that hamilon is able to go further outside the track in a lot of corners which also adds to the time difference
I think a more apt comparison would be the 2018 cars versus the 22. Both second year in a new development cycle.
Spa 2023 quali was nuts. Verstappen claiming pole with a 0.8 second advantage over second place is nuts
I remember the period 2019-2020 but much more 2020 that Mercedes more specifically W11 Hamilton's car was overwhelming on the track the team dominated from end to end and the onboards was seen that the car had a tremendous grip to the track and a very serious fast cornering.
Will be interesting this weekend with spa 🤔 and to see the performance of the RB In 2023
Sadly it will rain a lot
@@KiraSlayer999 oohh :(
maybe a chance of snow then lmao
please return i love the videos
We miss you mate
Track limits made huge difference.
w11 unmatchable still
With W11 reaching the peak of 2017 regulation vs. RB18 which had just on its first year with new regulation
I think it's time we acknowledge that we'll never see the speed of 2020 again
we will some day for sure
I bet that some of the records will be beaten in 2025 if fia doesnt nerf the cars
People said the same for 2004, but 14 years later, Raikkonen broke the record at Monza. If the new engine regulations really are as slow as they are predicting, they will probably return to a bigger engine formula (maybe similar to the current lmh regs) after about maybe 4 or 5 years since it will just be embarassing for F1 for them to have such slow cars.
Maybe in the 2030s
W11 was the final edition of those hybrid monsters after 6-7 years of improvement in aerodynamics and tyre technology coz those time we had so many tyre compounds(Super softs, hypersofts)but this RB18 is only the first of grounf effect cars. 2025 we'll see much more speed.
This year alone might be around 7-8 tenths faster than 2022
I wouldn't be surprised if RedBull bring back the rake ride height to increase the depth of the ground effect underfloor and lower the upper aero elements further.
That W11 is pancake flat on those turns damn
Please ❤❤❤❤make a comparison video after qualifying
If this year Q3 will be dry, could you do a comparison beetween rb19 and rb18?
Would like to see the older cars back
The combined sound of the engines almost gives my washing machine a run for its money.... but they have a long way to go to match the almighty Hoover
Here to say i love the hybrid system.
It looks like the RB gets on the throttle earlier on the exit of some corners - it really has traction in some spots.
The amount of time Lewis gains on track extending is really formidable though. Strange F1 didn't have stricter rules for this until now.
Luckily, we have many on-track stewards nowadays.
soon the new 2023 redbull will be the new most dominant one
Yeah
Actually no W11 is much faster
@@enxcrypted18 but rb19 is much more dominants in its season
@@Zenitval yeah but also the w11 was incredibly dominant
2014/15/16 merc had larger gaps to 2nd best car statistically and 2023 rb and 2020 merc are about the same gap
Hey man! Ever thought of making a Discord Server for fans?
By how much time do you think they will improve this year pole lap? 1 second? Around 1.42.5?
By 0
Wet qualifying incoming
So basically rhis years car is still +1 second slower than the W11.
(We can't compare the lap time of this year pole, the track was kinda wet but we know that this year's RB is almost 1s faster than the last year's, so...)
how do you get the halo hud?
It’s the extra weight that kills the RB18 over te W11
I say not bad for a car at the start of new regulations, much heavy, bigger wheels VS a car at the end of a much different regulations, with lighter chassis and smaller wheels
Yeah definitely! Maybe next year or 25 I think we’ll see a new record if the weather is good…
Pre 2022 cars also had more complicated aero. Especially those bargeboards.
Clearly the smaller, lighter car with more down force will be faster. The Regulations are there to slow down the cars. Comparing 2022 vs 2023 would be interesting to see the gains by the teams under the same regs
The w11 simply looks like it just hits harder. When going under braking ontop of the hill after the long straight he tips it in and is right on throttle, then a tiny lift and back to full power then flat through the next one. That’s absurd. Lewis was truly one with that machine
Hamiltons steering inputs are noticeably smoother.
Please make a video of all Perez contacts in Singapore GP
Can we get more comparisons involving w11 Please...
Bring it back
Do this again with the RB19 pls :)
That redbull has crazy straight line speeds
We need w11 vs rb19 After this weekend
now a comparison between BMW williams ( R. Schumacher or Montoya) vs the two cars?` is this possible?
When people try doubting James Allison my gosh that man can build an f1 car 🏎
It was the engine mainly... not the aero that made it that fast
Yea definitely look how well his car is doing now LOL!!! You could strap that 2014-2012 Merc PU to a shopping cart and it would still blow 3/4 of the grid out of the water. And before you start saying that he didn't build the W13/14, the zero side pod idea was his baby, he was still on the team that designed it don't believe me just ask Peter Windsor.
@@gealingeman8643merc engine was only dominant in 2014-16 series of cars. Funnily enough Renault had the fastest engine in 2020. Mercedes became a rocketship in the late half of 2021. It’s the handling and the grip that makes w11 the fastest f1 car ever.
In 2022, Spa was the first race with the TD39 being applied. It also turned out to be the first race where RB dominated having an enormous pace advantage over the Ferrari.....WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!
Because Ferrari couldn't use a loophole anymore that was cleared up with the new TD39. Ferrari still hasn't fully recovered from that. It broke their neck.
Ironically Mercedes thought getting rid of that loophole with the TD39 would hurt RB the most, only for RB to be faster than ever.
@@ey1615 What kind of loophole are you talking about? Ferrari used to loophole. They had a car which was 100% regular according to the 2022 rules. Than the FIA cracked under Wolff's pressure of raising the cars and Ferrari lost a lot more downforce than RB because the Ferrari was more dependant on ground effect.
@giuseppe The ride height increase was only implemented this year.
Am of the opinion we didnt need the 2022 regs. The cars were converging by 21, they should have put the 2026 regs as the target and found ways to make the cars smaller with that period of time.
if now the main source of downforce is the floor, what was the main source of downforce in the W11?
Front wing, bargeboards. Floor was still powerful though.
And the RB19 seems even more dominant
2:24 what is interesting to see how redbull has 1km/h more at exit of pouhon despite the initial lift and lower entry speed.
My conclusion is lewis missed apex and added more steering to correct trajectory which scrubbed off his speed quite a bit
That W11 was OTHERWORLDLY. Hamilton is 2 or 3 world champion without it. It was the deathstar... NOTHING ever like it. SHEESH...
When Man merges with Machine. The takeaway is Lewis Hamilton is the ultimate beast when given a descent car. Wow!
W11 a decent car !! thats was the WILDEST F1 CAR EVER MADE in history
The car Lewis drives now is above decent and he can't win races whereas the W11 is the fastest car in F1 history!
@@charleswilfred6463At least Max managed to get wins with an above decent car while Merc were dominating. I would bet Max would at least get a win in that Merc.
@@LucassenR Not really. It's not that the Merc is a above decent car, it's that the Redbull is too fast compared to the rest of the grid. Even Checo, a midfield driver to be honest, can easily finish p2 in any race, if we ignore all the mistakes he has made in qualifying due to pressure from Max.
Lol, he is not even top 20 drivers of all time.
I wonder what would be the times if 2023 quali was run in dry conditions
come back man
Could you please make a video of how it’s possible Max lapped Sergio with 22 seconds in spa?
Can you do this for the rb19 now?
please make a comparison on the last singapore laps between verstappen and leclerc to understand how tf did max cut an 18s gap in 4-5 laps
I think 2025 may reach the Speed of 2020 in some tracks
1:04 to 1:14 imagine if two most dominating cars maded a One single car, Speed, DAS, Drs, Model.
If this was a game, the devs would have nerf'd the W11 as soon as it started being abused by everyone. That car was so OP....
The W11 was an engineering marvel
Did the W11 had the DAS in here? Cant seem to see that movement on the steering wheel
Mercedes didnt abuse DAS. They only used it on formation laps and behind safety car to warm up tyres.