NEW 2024 Magic Keyboard Review: Truly Magic
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The ability of one to make a 16 minutes video about a row of functions keys and metal is truly magic
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Same II. It’s a laptop keyboard without a weight and they added function keys. Period. I just bought a similar keyboard with RGB light for my Samsung Tab S8 for 99€ (taxes included) and this keyboard exits since at least 2-3 years ago…why with Apple products people write so “magical” reviews when…it’s a normal product. It would me magical to have a desktop mode on iPadOS and macOS app compatibility mode.
@@ricarmig Why don't people who want MacOS Just buy macs instead of wanting to spend around 1600 bucks on a big iPhone with a keyboard and stylus
@@messicomps344 because it’s 2024 and they want Macs with OLED, thinner and touchscreen displays. From a CLIENT perspective, why can’t a person have a device that he can use on the couch at evening to surf the web, update emails and…at class or work take notes with the pencil but then…attaches the keyboard and also uses it as a laptop?
That would be an iPad Pro with macOS but with both tablet and desktop UI. You can take the tablet and use it as a normal iPad…or attach the keyboard and use it as a MacBook Air .
Issue: Apple stock holders won’t be happy.
As someone who has used PC, Mac, Commodore, Chromebook, laptops, netbooks, workstations, dumb terminals and tablets: I don't want a Mac or its OS. I have iPad because of its digital workspace capability. No separate drawing board (many i've used across all the systems I mentioned). Really useful that Apple pencil and touchscreen.
However...
i doubt i'll buy this high-priced keyboard. But, if I did it's because I use programs which use keyboard shortcuts. Apple had at one point pulled back keyboard support. But in recent year has been adding Full Keyboard Access back. Likewise, some Apple app developers, some for Apple defaults and others according to their app.
Currently, I use my other keyboards with my phones, iPad and mac mini. Mostly Logitech, but also Apple and a Kensington. Mostly leftovers from other OS and devices going defunct or out of business.
By the way, Apple's Full Keyboard Access and mouse as pointer both support customization. That includes combo keys or gestures or even customization specific within an app. This is why even without an iPad version of Logitech options software I am able to use its keyboard and mice which singly can be paired to three separate things.
As for this video about keyboards, like 99.9% of other reviewers, he fails to mention anything about keyboard, mice, switches and other controllers and how extensibly Apple supports customization. Maybe a specific app doesn't make much or no use of keyboards: you can customize gestures and combo keys for those, sort of like making a macro to do the work for you.
Definitely, keyboards and mice are helpful to assistive audience, but universally best add-ons for everyone.
❤😂🎉🛠️🖇️🖍️
PS who knows what AI might add. For now, making use of the tools I have.
Fascinating. A comprehensive and crystal clear review that strangely made me less jealous of the new model (I have the M1 with the "old" keyboard), even though I can see and appreciate all the improvements.
I loved the explanation of the cantileaver design with the proximity of the screen for touch - makes perfect sense.
Same! I have the M1 with "old" Magic keyboard and I'm completely happy and not planning on $$$$'ing a new one.
Fantastic review! Your passion for great tech is infectious. One thing I noticed with my new Magic Keyboard is that it is fairly uncomfortable when using it on a lap. I have to put a book or something under it to not feel like it’s about to topple over. Besides that this is by far my favorite device and I’ve been intentionally trying to do everything on it over my PC. Can’t wait to see what is on the horizon at WWDC
I feel that the escape key and the lock key are useful for two purposes… escape key means you will have iPad OS to be similar to the Mac OS this year and the lock key means you may have a clamshell mode where you press the lock key and make your iPad go to sleep the do the rest on the external monitor which you may have attached to…
Maybe next year
@@messicomps344 Probably never. At the least the lock key requires you to depress > 2 seconds to reduce accidental locks. They go that right.
I got the M4 11inch and I just came home from purchasing the apple Magic Keyboard and this is the 1st video I seen! I do agree that this one has a more premium feel. I think I am part of the 99.999999999% that love the key travel
Just picked up a 13 iPad Pro with mgk and pencil pro… so nice!
You have a gift to make a truly detailed reviews
Thanks for the review! Been considering getting one.
Recently stumbled upon and have been enjoying your content. I tried with the OG 9.7" iPad Pro to work the way you do, but found the experience trying. iPadOS is still too limited for my workflow needs and the lack of a real file management implementation is a pain (can't count on Files for anything but the most basic of things). Given Apple's track record with iPadOS, I'd be shocked if anything transformative is announced in June. Gonna stick with my MBP and macOS - but will continue to watch your content and see how this evolves!
Nobody talk about the bad balanced of the keyboard in comparison to the old one 😮
I added some Hex adhesive grips (trimmed here and there) for hinge feet and also "grip" when I place on the spine to open. Seems to have improved balanced and table top grip. Also, the feeling of metal on hard surfaces with the hinge/spine when opening is now gone.
@@arturodeguzman how to have that ?
Thoughtful analysis and discussion. Great vid! iPad Pro is my mobile device for work/play and this channel serves as one of my sources of iPad content.
I use Lock key quite a bit when I have to walk away to the other room... so, I personally think it's useful.
I'm perfectly happy with my nerdy ZSA Voyager keyboard. Split ortholinear and ergonomic, completely customisable and is offered by a company that cares. I use it with my MBP14 and it's possible to use it with the iPad or any other device. It took some getting used to, but I love that thing!
Ergo keyboard
Always love your videos. I am waiting to see what improvements wwdc brings to iPad os before I spring for a new M4 iPad Pro - still rocking my M2 13 inch iPad and it’s amazing. I do use a third party keyboard with it that has function keys.
2020, 2022 and now 2024 - three different versions of the Ipad keyboard. Luckily the M2 ipad worked with the 2020 Keyboard. I am not getting the M4 but would consider it if they came out with a 14 inch pro. When they do that they will need to make a new keyboard for it - that is the point I am waiting for - otherwise I am fine with the slightly less shiny M2 Ipad pro.
So I finally snatched up the new magic keyboard after resisting mainly due to the price. I also don’t need a trackpad and prefer to not have one at all. However, I am physically disabled, and I was waiting for the type case or even the ESR to release their keyboards, however, their significantly heavier like more than a pound heavier than the magic keyboard. Unfortunately, the 12.9 M2 was way too heavy for me and I lost my motor skills for the month. I had it.
I settled on the latest model and an external MX mini key board but economically I needed to be able to lift my tablet and the magic keyboard. Just kind of fits the bill.
While I am still contemplating keeping it, and the price hurts so much, this thing is pretty magical. It’s thin, it’s light, can’t compare to the older models, but I love the keyboard and I love how it connects automatically. Definitely not worth $350 compared to the other keyboards, however , this is super nice and super fancy feature that is definitely noticeable as somebody who uses alternate keyboards. In the two weeks that I’ve had it I haven’t put my case in a folio at all, and I’m using this keyboard way more than I thought. I would just in general and I haven’t picked up my external one whatsoever. Now I’m thinking maybe it was a waste to get the MX mini or the Logitech to go 2.
One thing that I think is an issue compared to the old ones is the instead of it being more flattened and help with the base they have switched it to more of a side formation if you will. I’m thinking that’s why leaning is so difficult. Those millimeters definitely seem to matter. Especially since the keyboard now can adjust farther back.
Hi, this is a great content and thanks for that . Just a question : is the new Magic Keyboard have a backlight??
Yes
Honestly keyboard/mouse support on iPads still feels pretty half-baked through the ecosystem. There are so many apps that don't really make proper use of the keyboard, like there are virtually no keyboard shortcuts available (especially in this one...TH-cam). Both third party apps and Apple apps are inconsistent with different inputs. In some apps the cursor keys will scroll, sometimes they won't scroll, sometimes you have to tap on the screen instead of using the cursor. Sometimes spacebar will activate something, sometimes not. Escape key is basically totally useless at the moment. It's all kind of random and mismatched because it was added on late in the iPad's life and apps weren't built with these things in mind. So just be prepared to accept random input inconsistencies if you get these accessories.
I am so excited about what the revamped iPad OS will bring to the table to unleash the power of M4. Exciting times coming in June for the iPad !!!!
What I did with the original Magic Keyboard I put skin before using it. For all those reasons you mentioned. My friend has the new Magic keyboard I told him to skin the outside. It feels the same material as the original Magic Keyboard.
Got mine wed 15th m-4 13” 1tb black reg glass magic both pieces unsure at first being first I-pad but love it regardless if it does anything Mac-os glad I bought a 2020 m1 MacBook air 8/8 16gb 1 tb Nov 2020 for that usage and not a 5-7 thousand m-3 MacBook w/notches and fans, love both so I believe you need at least 16gb and 1 tb. And not 128 go ram w/60 cores And I think I like the Magic Keyboard better than the mistake laden macbook keyboard. 2 killer machines for about the same price of a M-3 MacBook, new I-pads are so dope. Even thinking about getting the white-silver as a backup have the black cause it’s so dope. Many you-tubers putting these down, I think this is the best product apple has to date. Wish I could find those digital charging cables can’t seem to find on amazon.
Lord, I want the new IPAD, but I have a really nicely functioning Macbook Pro.. I prefer the iPad for everything except the file system and Final Cut Pro.
The Lock key is useful if you just keep the iPad open at your desk and you want to save on battery and OLED life.
how’s the lap test? i found several people said that it didn’t work for this new version.
I was wondering the same thing - especially with the 13”. My use case is often in a chair or in bed…
Had the M1 12.9 with Magic Keyboard. Got the M4 13” iPad Pro and new Magic Keyboard. Absolutely no issue working on my lap. Not unstable. Two weeks and just enjoying the new M4 and feel of new keyboard. Very much worth the upgrade.
Yeah still doesn’t work well, train commutes kinda suck needing to balance it, but its significantly more rigid so manageable
Yeah I have no idea how he uses it on his lap. I cannot use it on anything but a flat table because it'll tip forward. (Edited)
@@dookie6734 Is that cause it tips forward?
I have a genuine question. In in university and I use a lot office 356, pdf, goodnotes and stuff. I have a MacBook Air M1 and I use it only for university to take note and an iPad 9th that for me is too small. I was thinking of taking the new m4 13’ and sell the others. Would you recommend me to pass to the m4 and sell the MacBook?
I also will take the new Magic Keyboard.
Because carrying it together, MacBook and iPad was too heavy
Ayy nice Apple Watch band, I have the same one lol. The orange just sticks out so nicely
It is nice, but the function keys, to me, are redundant. All of those features are either on auto settings or have keyboard shortcuts. Trackpad, I always use Tap to Click. I’m certainly not upgrading to this iPad; just for the keyboard.
I always said the original Magic Keyboard was one of my all time favorite keyboards and I like this one better. Matter of fact I’m typing on it now.
I haven’t found anything the escape key works with… it doesn’t seem to do anything… love the new iPad Pro (11”) M4 & Magic Keyboard but the jury is out on the pencil pro 🏴
A really good review…
I learned keyboard short cuts using the ipad with keyboard. I barely used keyboard short cuts on mac. I’m going to love the lock key. I dont have to press the button on the ipad to lock it. When i used the mac keyboard i got off eBay i loved the lock key. Why would i want to keep closing my ipad to lock it when it’s easier to just press a button.
13:20 it uses the connector on the iPad, not bluetooth.
How do you write or draw on your iPad with this keyboard
How do you have the Finder app in your iPad Pro M4 dock???
I just replaced the app icon using Shortcuts.
How do you get the key board to eirk
Great video as always
Lock key is great when you’re hooked to a monitor and need to step away from your set up
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I wish they had made it just a bit *heavier*, it's even more tippy now than the old version.
I think the keyboard is too light now. I can’t use it on my lap, pillow, ottoman, etc. It falls over on anything that is not a flat, stable table. Makes it unusable for most of the areas I want to use my iPad vs a laptop.
How is the keyboard in Asahi Linux?
It’s not really magical when it still wobbles, when the exterior material is still prone to get damaged easily, when there’s no additional ports, the lack of compatibility between iPad models, it still costs $300+.
The incompatibility between a 5 months old iPad Pro, and the new accessories, it's just a scam! If my iPad Pro gets damaged, ill have to buy the whole setup just because apple wants it that way, and throw my current Apple Pencil and Magic Keyboard to the trash, So sad.
It's a 2 year old from launch based on a tablet design that's been around from 6 years. You're not wrong about being disappointed but the life cycle has been pretty long and will continue with the Air models
@@diegoirizarry2333 it’s absolutely unnecessary to make the keyboard unavailable for last gen. Maybe the pencil ✏️, but come on.
Although the Design is similar the thickness is different and the USB c bar running on the back is oval instead of circular making the overall design thinner and the weight lighter. Also the proportions of the new tablet are millimeters in difference in width and height. The magnet position is changed due to the different speaker design and changing the magnets of the pen.
Overall this makes the new iPad + MK more unified.
If you're wanting to get the new iPad pro, I would recommend selling your iPad, Keyboard and Pencil together, as that gives you an excuse to charge slightly more
I kinda don't mind the hard refresh. I just have to sell my replaced accessories. I don't mind. I'm ready for another 6 year cycle.
I’m going to get the M4 iPad Pro. I will not get the Magic Keyboard. For the money they charge, it’s not a case. I live with kids, shit gets banged. Even in my hands, shit happens. For the investment it takes to get the iPad, I want protection. Also hate the fact there isn’t a spot for the Apple Pencil. It’s just sitting on the side hoping to not get knocked off. There are a ton of alternatives that are cheaper and are full cases with a spot for the pencil.
A screen shot button would have been helpful to me
You can still go with "CMD + control + q" command
@@v1k705oh thank you 🙏🏻, I’ll try it 👍🏻
@@v1k705 are you sure cos i tried it and it locked the screen and turned black as in sleep mode !
9:19 how can you reprogram a key on the iPad?
With your keyboard attached, got to Settings - General - Keyboard - Harware Keyboard - Modifier Keys. The functionality is quite limited, so don't expect to put caps lock on a Shortcut or anything. That would be amazing, though
@@logantaylor1834 oh, great, thanks for the hint.
“It is better but it could be EVEN better, if that makes sense?” Yeah Tim Cook uses it all the time
Wow, he lost A LOT OF WEIGHT! Great content, as always...; )
Hate the new metallic material of the keyboard - it slides around on many surfaces where the previous one stayed in place. Do not like the slick feel of the palm rests.
Not happy that Apple threw the Gen 2 Apple Pencil under the bus. No trade in - just turned your pencil into a paperweight. Apple could have made some provision on the outrageously overpriced keyboard to charge the v2 Pencil.
Did not need and do not use the function key row.
There should be at least 2 Thunderbolt ports on the iPad Pro when connected to the keyboard.
I have the new iPad and Magic Keyboard and personally I’m not sure I’m going to keep the keyboard. The escape key doesn’t work with anything including apple apps. The pinch to open and close doesn’t work with TH-cam like it used to. The new keyboard easily tips back vs the old one which was more balanced. At this point I think the prior keyboard is designed better. Sorry but it seems like a lot of these reviews were paid to review positively. Some are being honest.
I don't give a shit about the redesign, they're APPLE. They could have designed it with backwards compatibility in mind, with the M1-M2.
I would hate my new car and accessories to look like my old car and accessories.
At $350…Truly Laughable. #AppleStopPriceGouging!
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