I started to play golf when my dad retired to spend more time with him. 30 years now. Time at the driving range, I learned to play the ball by trial and error just like Moe did. I read golf tips from the so called experts and determined the tip was bad advice. An example is an athletic posture as in bent knees. I sprayed balls. I learned to addressed the ball with my legs straight and made great ball contact. It was my feeling of greatness. I realized thru watching Moe Norman and Todd's teaching that I had a single plan swing. With his teachings, I am hitting the ball straighter and having more fun in the process. Fellow golfers would comment to me "I do not understand how you can get the club square with that swing." My process worked for me and I now know why. Great video Todd. Looking forward to the next lesson and I am following you with your book.
The explanation on what should be passive and not passive was explained well. I was pulling the club using my hands, arms and a little of back. Now that I know to it use back muscles until impact or releasing gives me something to work on, thanks Todd
As a basketball player and coach myself, there was so much wrong with the traditional shot form (two motion) prevalent until the mid 2010s that limited consistency, accuracy, and range. Cutting those variables down with efficient biomechanics in a single motion form is how I and so many others are now able to shoot basketballs so consistently and accurately from great distance. I just started golf a few weeks ago and am so glad I found Todd's channel because of the level of terminology and precision in these lessons. This debunks traditional for the sake of tradition using science and I imagine it won't be long before the traditional method falls by the wayside. Thanks for all your work Todd! This is terrific stuff.
Great explanation of why Nicklaus would say he plays all irons in the same position. And fantastic explanation of why the feeling of keeping the face square down the line past impact is a 'real-thing.' Overhead camera is awesome. Thanks!!!
Thank you for clearing that up Todd. I noticed that the the face was slightly open just before impact and I thought that I was doing something wrong. Learning a lot from the videos. Keep up the great work.👏😃
I have been watching your videos lately and a very good tip is "sunny side up" which is forearms turning outwards. I do that for my right and my left arm. And the tip that you gave where you " stick out your left arm and palms facing down and you just turn your forearm outwards only" These tips helped a lot today! Thanks.
I’ve taken the single plane approach to the range twice lately. I’ve had good success with short irons getting good contact, good distance and getting the shots on target. As the clubs get longer, I find I’m fighting a hook tendency. My usual miss is a block/block fade/block slice to the right. So as a right hander, misses to the left means seeing areas of the golf course I don’t visit frequently. My efforts with the driver were disastrous as contact was poor. Likely the range tee was a bit high for me. I’ll try again with a lower tee height.
About the ball staying on the face for a split second while the face squares. I remember back in the old days when the balata balls were really soft (and you could dent them or sometimes even cut them with a thinned wood shot) that sometimes it seemed you could see the ball ride on the face for that split second. Also, some pros said they could make a correction during that split second while the ball was riding the face.
I always make sure the hands stay in front of body until a natural hinge occurs at end of back swing. This is also referred to as a one piece take away. Low and slow also helped build muscle memory while only using my back and or shoulder muscles to begin my backswing. The arms and hands are passive however my hands remain in front of body
@@ToddGravesGolf Todd..I have a question..I've been following your vlogs for a while with the intentions of changing my 2 plain swing to a 1 plane..Would you know whether I would need to get my lies adjusted on my clubs...I was fitted around 2 yrs ago and had the lie angle adjusted to fit my swing!..If you could advise, I would appreciate your view?!
@@johnprice1914 It is likely that you will need to adjust the lie angles for the Single plane Swing. Also have you also been custom fit for grip size? My lie angles are 2.5 degrees flat and I use 2/4 (2 on left hand and 4 on right hand) for my grip size.
@@ToddGravesGolf Now, that's an interesting question Todd.. I found out by accident playing in The states by using a set of hired clubs which infact were oversized grips,I played great golf..my problem was I would let the club move around while in my back swing..The jumbo grips appeared to solve that so when i returned home i had my grips changed to larger grip..what size?.. I dont know but it definitely solved the issue of letting the club go!.. I think really i may have to start from sq 1again....Todd, I really appreciate your feed back..I love your Vlogs..You were so lucky to know Moe..I think he's just great.
“We are not teaching you hypothetical crap.” That’s a nice way of putting it! What other teacher/approach to the golf swing uses a model/process fellow golfers??!!!!
The isolating of the top of the arms negates the lifting of the club and makes the swing easier. Todd I have I question for you. My Left Leg had been amputated below the knee and I find it easier to have my Trail-foot turned out for balance. Please let me know if this is OK. I am unable to balance on the toe of trail-foot after impact for fear of falling over. I keep both feet on the ground with a shorter follow through.
A critical element in the "impact zone" is how the center of rotation (of the swing arc) matches up to the center of mass (of the body) and how that affects the moment of inertia (at the outstretched club face) and the angle of attack of the swing relative to the ball position. I have been looking at multiple videos of both Todd and Moe and it is hard to determine (without a complete diagnostic set) to clearly relate the two but for sure, this swing method ensures that both the rotational inertia and the directional impetus are optimized for impact. A square club face to the target line (grip positions) results in those Moe Normanesque strikes. Well done Todd.
because you "FEEL" your shoulders are closed and have side bend>>>YOU automatic get the path which is KING! agreed! btw. (center) is behind the ball, thus you don't have to do any "SHIFTING" of weight, you are already setting into the right hip joint which allows you to go forward with some force!
Any ball that Moe hit on the ground, because of the D-Plane, he had to have a slightly out to in path and a slightly open clubface at impact for his straight shots.. . Correct? Im sure Todd's trackman numbers would look similar for his iron shots.
Great info stiff . Question in practicing the single plan set up my club face looks strange. Is that because with a single plan set up u need to change ur lie angles on ur clubs. Can I play with the clubs I have using the single plan swing? Thanks
i figured out this {open face to square} contact today in my field, then i come to see all the videos to check if i'm correct, i wounder why as soon as i figure something out, its on all the videos, are you Guys reading my mind ?, i was wondering why for a while, why i was hitting the hard draw, now i know, i come to check your videos first, to see if i'm correct, and yes now i have it, Money Money Money, Look out A Team Your Going Down, WooHoo
If the face is slightly open - you add loft - and as a result, you lose distance. A properly struck iron shot is delofted slightly which adds compression and lowers ball flight - resulting in more distance. This is why I can not get the practice 6i to go as far as a normal 6i unless I hook it with this method. I can hit it straight all day - but weak and short 20 yards. I have to aim right (closed shoulders and stance - back leg dropped more than you have it) to draw it back on line in order to compress the ball and not lose distance.
I believe your assessment is incorrect. Who says the face is open? The bell separates (leaves the face of club) square. Compression occurs from hands leading / shaft lean. All of those are occurring here, I hit a 6 iron 185 yards at the time of this video.
spakuloid I think compression comes from the downward movement of the club head and not so much from the face angle at impact. I am sure your hands are not as far forwards as they should be and you are releasing too early. When Mo struck the ball it always made that beautiful sound and you don’t get that sound if there is no compression. That sound is what we are all trying to get.
I don’t know where most are getting this, I hit shorter with single plane swing. Most rely to much on draw/hook to get distance. Arguably one of the most inconsistent shots in golf. If your loosing more than 5 yards your not doing it right, or your hand and arm speed where weak to begin with.
So am I correct in thinking if you hit slight push shots then you are very close to getting it correct? Is it my alignment, timing at release or ball placement that is off if I tend to stay to the right side of the fairway in the long grass. (An occasional beautifully struck long straight drive.)
That might be true since a push requires a club that comes from the inside - which can only be accomplished with proper tilt. If I was pushing the ball I would make sure that I am planing the club on the finish side of the swing. See this video here: th-cam.com/video/JuisFdQ9M2Y/w-d-xo.html
Todd, thank you for the great video! I would like to know what a good reference point would be at address to make sure we are aligned properly to the target? Do you have a checkpoint at address when you look to the target? With a traditional swing I could look to my left front shoulder for a reference to being online. Trying the single plane swing and looking for a pointer at address when playing golf. Thanks again for the great information.
I never try to reference the target line from address. I step into the ball, align the clubface and body. I do it in the pre-shot routine, never over the ball. Its part of a routine.
Todd, I love your video's but in this video you didn't explain very well why people would hit it fat or thin using this method. Hopefully a future video will explain it better. Thanks
I was only using that as an example of what people ask - of the many dozens of questions per day. This video discusses what the Title of the video says.
I started to play golf when my dad retired to spend more time with him. 30 years now. Time at the driving range, I learned to play the ball by trial and error just like Moe did. I read golf tips from the so called experts and determined the tip was bad advice. An example is an athletic posture as in bent knees. I sprayed balls. I learned to addressed the ball with my legs straight and made great ball contact. It was my feeling of greatness. I realized thru watching Moe Norman and Todd's teaching that I had a single plan swing. With his teachings, I am hitting the ball straighter and having more fun in the process.
Fellow golfers would comment to me "I do not understand how you can get the club square with that swing." My process worked for me and I now know why.
Great video Todd. Looking forward to the next lesson and I am following you with your book.
The explanation on what should be passive and not passive was explained well. I was pulling the club using my hands, arms and a little of back. Now that I know to it use back muscles until impact or releasing gives me something to work on, thanks Todd
As a basketball player and coach myself, there was so much wrong with the traditional shot form (two motion) prevalent until the mid 2010s that limited consistency, accuracy, and range. Cutting those variables down with efficient biomechanics in a single motion form is how I and so many others are now able to shoot basketballs so consistently and accurately from great distance.
I just started golf a few weeks ago and am so glad I found Todd's channel because of the level of terminology and precision in these lessons. This debunks traditional for the sake of tradition using science and I imagine it won't be long before the traditional method falls by the wayside.
Thanks for all your work Todd! This is terrific stuff.
The birds eye camera angle from the top definitely helps in understanding the shoulders !
Yes it does!
Great explanation of why Nicklaus would say he plays all irons in the same position. And fantastic explanation of why the feeling of keeping the face square down the line past impact is a 'real-thing.' Overhead camera is awesome. Thanks!!!
This is a gem
Absolutely fascinating, never thought of any of that. thanks.
Excellent analysis. You show some hidden aspects/fine details of the swing that are otherwise difficult to be aware of.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good job Todd. It is amazing to realize that less golf swing leads to greater control and distance.
Agree.
Thank you for clearing that up Todd. I noticed that the the face was slightly open just before impact and I thought that I was doing something wrong. Learning a lot from the videos. Keep up the great work.👏😃
I have been watching your videos lately and a very good tip is "sunny side up" which is forearms turning outwards. I do that for my right and my left arm. And the tip that you gave where you " stick out your left arm and palms facing down and you just turn your forearm outwards only"
These tips helped a lot today! Thanks.
Thanks Todd great video. Thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.
Todd Loving these videos. Learning this sewing during our down time, would Love to see you show these with a driver as well.
Lots of videos of me hitting driver. What other videos would you like?
I’ve taken the single plane approach to the range twice lately. I’ve had good success with short irons getting good contact, good distance and getting the shots on target. As the clubs get longer, I find I’m fighting a hook tendency. My usual miss is a block/block fade/block slice to the right. So as a right hander, misses to the left means seeing areas of the golf course I don’t visit frequently. My efforts with the driver were disastrous as contact was poor. Likely the range tee was a bit high for me. I’ll try again with a lower tee height.
About the ball staying on the face for a split second while the face squares. I remember back in the old days when the balata balls were really soft (and you could dent them or sometimes even cut them with a thinned wood shot) that sometimes it seemed you could see the ball ride on the face for that split second. Also, some pros said they could make a correction during that split second while the ball was riding the face.
I always make sure the hands stay in front of body until a natural hinge occurs at end of back swing. This is also referred to as a one piece take away. Low and slow also helped build muscle memory while only using my back and or shoulder muscles to begin my backswing. The arms and hands are passive however my hands remain in front of body
Nicely explained Todd..love the content.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@ToddGravesGolf Todd..I have a question..I've been following your vlogs for a while with the intentions of changing my 2 plain swing to a 1 plane..Would you know whether I would need to get my lies adjusted on my clubs...I was fitted around 2 yrs ago and had the lie angle adjusted to fit my swing!..If you could advise, I would appreciate your view?!
@@johnprice1914 It is likely that you will need to adjust the lie angles for the Single plane Swing. Also have you also been custom fit for grip size? My lie angles are 2.5 degrees flat and I use 2/4 (2 on left hand and 4 on right hand) for my grip size.
@@ToddGravesGolf Now, that's an interesting question Todd.. I found out by accident playing in The states by using a set of hired clubs which infact were oversized grips,I played great golf..my problem was I would let the club move around while in my back swing..The jumbo grips appeared to solve that so when i returned home i had my grips changed to larger grip..what size?.. I dont know but it definitely solved the issue of letting the club go!.. I think really i may have to start from sq 1again....Todd, I really appreciate your feed back..I love your Vlogs..You were so lucky to know Moe..I think he's just great.
I like the idea of what you demonstrated.
thanks.
Todd you "float like a butterfly but sting like a bee" with your spot on instruction, I learn from you!!
Thank you.
Thanks cogent and clear THOM BLINN
“We are not teaching you hypothetical crap.” That’s a nice way of putting it! What other teacher/approach to the golf swing uses a model/process fellow golfers??!!!!
The isolating of the top of the arms negates the lifting of the club and makes the swing easier. Todd I have I question for you. My Left Leg had been amputated below the knee and I find it easier to have my Trail-foot turned out for balance. Please let me know if this is OK. I am unable to balance on the toe of trail-foot after impact for fear of falling over. I keep both feet on the ground with a shorter follow through.
A critical element in the "impact zone" is how the center of rotation (of the swing arc) matches up to the center of mass (of the body) and how that affects the moment of inertia (at the outstretched club face) and the angle of attack of the swing relative to the ball position. I have been looking at multiple videos of both Todd and Moe and it is hard to determine (without a complete diagnostic set) to clearly relate the two but for sure, this swing method ensures that both the rotational inertia and the directional impetus are optimized for impact. A square club face to the target line (grip positions) results in those Moe Normanesque strikes. Well done Todd.
because you "FEEL" your shoulders are closed and have side bend>>>YOU automatic get the path which is KING! agreed! btw. (center) is behind the ball, thus you don't have to do any "SHIFTING" of weight, you are already setting into the right hip joint which allows you to go forward with some force!
Nice.
So in any momento of the swing we use the right hand/ar to acelerate the club?
Any ball that Moe hit on the ground, because of the D-Plane, he had to have a slightly out to in path and a slightly open clubface at impact for his straight shots.. . Correct? Im sure Todd's trackman numbers would look similar for his iron shots.
Great info stiff . Question in practicing the single plan set up my club face looks strange. Is that because with a single plan set up u need to change ur lie angles on ur clubs. Can I play with the clubs I have using the single plan swing? Thanks
Stuff
Tod. The best video
Thanks.
i figured out this {open face to square} contact today in my field, then i come to see all the videos to check if i'm correct, i wounder why as soon as i figure something out, its on all the videos, are you Guys reading my mind ?, i was wondering why for a while, why i was hitting the hard draw, now i know, i come to check your videos first, to see if i'm correct, and yes now i have it, Money Money Money, Look out A Team Your Going Down, WooHoo
This has to be some of the best golf instruction hands down. This one in particular is so informative. Thank you.
You are welcome.
I understand that stand up only happens after the impact and the extension . I tried it first, it seems I lost the rhythm to finish.
Great
Would you hit 50-100 balls in a row on your tracman/flight scope
How do you know you are square with the target? I hit the ball 10 to 20 feet left or right of the target with a 7 iron.
You use video, and match the model. You have to match the system. Are you being coached by one of our Single plane Coaches?
If the face is slightly open - you add loft - and as a result, you lose distance. A properly struck iron shot is delofted slightly which adds compression and lowers ball flight - resulting in more distance. This is why I can not get the practice 6i to go as far as a normal 6i unless I hook it with this method. I can hit it straight all day - but weak and short 20 yards. I have to aim right (closed shoulders and stance - back leg dropped more than you have it) to draw it back on line in order to compress the ball and not lose distance.
I believe your assessment is incorrect. Who says the face is open? The bell separates (leaves the face of club) square. Compression occurs from hands leading / shaft lean. All of those are occurring here, I hit a 6 iron 185 yards at the time of this video.
spakuloid I think compression comes from the downward movement of the club head and not so much from the face angle at impact. I am sure your hands are not as far forwards as they should be and you are releasing too early. When Mo struck the ball it always made that beautiful sound and you don’t get that sound if there is no compression. That sound is what we are all trying to get.
@@waqarghulam3548 Good Points.
Todd Graves welcome mr graves
I don’t know where most are getting this, I hit shorter with single plane swing. Most rely to much on draw/hook to get distance. Arguably one of the most inconsistent shots in golf. If your loosing more than 5 yards your not doing it right, or your hand and arm speed where weak to begin with.
So am I correct in thinking if you hit slight push shots then you are very close to getting it correct? Is it my alignment, timing at release or ball placement that is off if I tend to stay to the right side of the fairway in the long grass. (An occasional beautifully struck long straight drive.)
That might be true since a push requires a club that comes from the inside - which can only be accomplished with proper tilt. If I was pushing the ball I would make sure that I am planing the club on the finish side of the swing. See this video here: th-cam.com/video/JuisFdQ9M2Y/w-d-xo.html
After watching the recommended video I would say I believe you are absolutely correct in what is happening with my swing. Thank you.!
The club b is pulling ur body in the second part of the backswing-
You can get “away” with that due to the single plane-
Todd, thank you for the great video! I would like to know what a good reference point would be at address to make sure we are aligned properly to the target? Do you have a checkpoint at address when you look to the target? With a traditional swing I could look to my left front shoulder for a reference to being online. Trying the single plane swing and looking for a pointer at address when playing golf. Thanks again for the great information.
I never try to reference the target line from address. I step into the ball, align the clubface and body. I do it in the pre-shot routine, never over the ball. Its part of a routine.
Thank you Todd for the feedback. Really appreciate it as I’m going to keep working on the single plane swing going forward!
Club face-3°OPEN d-plane +3°Left = 0° square launch ! AKA....straaaaight
wow-aaaaaaaawesome stuff
Todd, I love your video's but in this video you didn't explain very well why people would hit it fat or thin using this method. Hopefully a future video will explain it better. Thanks
I was only using that as an example of what people ask - of the many dozens of questions per day. This video discusses what the Title of the video says.
Hi Todd, when my arms are out, does my left arm tricep rest on my chest?
on top of your chest.
Todd Graves 😊
better intro music
Thanks.
Sounds like a lot of jibbity Ju jive to me, but I get your point
ok.
I don't understand what he is talking about
Shoulders (front of arms) is different than the back (torso / shoulder blades).
Great