The most underrated common thread in your videos is your focus on the chest staying up and pointing down the trail rather than down with rolled shoulders. This was spot on for me. Front wheel lifts, J hops, drops and even jumping are all second nature after you’ve helped me discover I was a chest down rider when attempting these moves.
Dude awesome videos! I met you last year in Killington, I got a hole in my tire and you gave me 2 small bottles of sealant and saved my whole day of riding! That night you were also coaching a young kid and his dad in the vale road parking lot camping area. All around badass guy! So glad I found your channel.
very useful breakdown of the technique.. helpful indeed. been riding for some years always afraid of drops other than going down a steep.. now i'm going to find a couple small ones and put this to use and get started. Thx!
Your points about chest and hip position are details I had never given any thought to. You're good at pointing out how trail features create different requirements from the rider. On a side note, notice my usage of your vs you're. Your content is great so please don't overlook the importance of accuracy in written communication.
Great detailed explanation - thanks! Best I've found for bringing all the detail together that I was missing. Like you I don't live in the burbs so no kerbs to practise on. I'm going to use your scoot and stick methods. I already built a low boardwalk drop but not game to use it yet as I realise I have zero timing and will go OTB.
@@firedoody welcome to the club. We have some greet once a year videos coming. We are going to race the us gravity nationals. A lot of content to come. As well as tons of skills videos being edited. Thanks for the support
Thank you! I just started my journey and have a lot to learn. These detailed videos surely come in handy! If I may: The amount of detail is almost overwhelming: I have trouble watching the video/slowmo/stills while listening to the narration while reading the on screen text while simultaneously paying attention to any green lines being drawn. The varying audio quality adds to the distraction. Maybe a clip-on mic that is used both on the track and for the voice-overs could remedy that?
I love love love your videos, thank you so much for this. One suggestion if I may: The video effect of the captions flowing in looks cool but makes at least my brain hurt. I think it would be better to just pop it in and out the classic way and not to "move it in" if that makes any sense.
While knowing and being able to perform that technique is important, I find it a bit problematic when the drop "lip" is not flat. If the lip is uneven or there is something at the end of the lip, having your whole weight on the rear of the bike will cause you to get bucked over your bars
That is what the push or shove is helping prevent. If your pushing your bike off the edge of the drop your creating speed at the last second. If your just hanging there not controlling the bike I.e just sitting in the bike. Yes you could get bucked but no more that maybe going OTB. Thanks for your thoughts hope this helps
Hi, Mate I am 52 and have only riden mtb last sumer, I am trying to make a comeback this summer. Your videos have helped me understand what I am doing wrong with jumps, I am 100kg but in pretty good shape, I always blamed my excess muscle for making me a bad jumper, now I see its all technique. How do I overcome the fear of looping out on the j hoop on the lip of a jump? to get me some more air
It's not the actual "push technique". You're showing semi-manual/pull technique which should definitely not be a default one, but could be used as the last resort, if your speed is too low. The proper "push" technique requires you to go down and slightly forward with your chest over your stem and then push with your arms forward (or forward and down at the angle of the landing) and that push movement keeps your front wheel moving more forward than down with the gravity. The faster you go, the more subtle the push movement should be.
@@jaad7562 well your right and wrong. The faster you go the less push you need. But if your going slow. Your certainly not hoping of the drop. The push or shove is the best option. And your idea of the push is used for ledges and taught very poorly by the internet. Sorry bud but we appreciate the feed back
@Theshredacademy "the push" I'm talking about is the most effective and the safest technique of doing drops. It just works and I use it constantly since I've learned it. The same technique is taught by Ben Cathro and Rich Drew.
Totally agree, semi maunual is very dangerous. It is one of the most common ways to cause nose dive crashes. Rich Drew’s technique is the most default way to go
@@jaad7562 yeah nooo nothing I said Implied pushing th front end down off the landing. Nor is that good for anything but perfect practice areas. If this where a video about how to go of technical drops yes maybe buuuut Thad obviously not what being taught here. I do appreciate your comments and will make a video that speaks directly to your point
@@Theshredacademy of course not, because you're obviously showing a different technique here, and it's not what I know as "the push" technique. As I said above, I know what you're showing here as "the pull" or semi-manual technique and I personally would not recommend it as a default drop technique, even if it of course works if executed correctly. I simply find "the push" technique (the one which I call so) more effective, controllable, universal and safer. YMMV.
If you are going so slow, that you need to manual before the drop, then you should not be dropping. if you manual too soon, you can have a lovely over the bar face plant going over the edge of the drop. Just keep the speed, keep your body neutral stans. let you bike just ride over the edge with out pulling up or down and let the bike drop naturally. During the drop You will naturally drop your legs a bit and straiten your arms out a bit to absorb the shock when you land. No need to make it so complicated.
Bro I’m 40 and film every day for 4 hrs then edit for 5 every day. I’d be dead with out my ebike. But thanks for the ego boost I wish I was a spring chicken again. 4 days at nationals and I’m toast
@@mesabman nah sir my dreads are here for a good long while. Unless for some reason you want to pay me 2million to cut them off yourself. But thanks for the riding props. We have more on the way
The most underrated common thread in your videos is your focus on the chest staying up and pointing down the trail rather than down with rolled shoulders. This was spot on for me. Front wheel lifts, J hops, drops and even jumping are all second nature after you’ve helped me discover I was a chest down rider when attempting these moves.
True!
Dude awesome videos! I met you last year in Killington, I got a hole in my tire and you gave me 2 small bottles of sealant and saved my whole day of riding! That night you were also coaching a young kid and his dad in the vale road parking lot camping area. All around badass guy! So glad I found your channel.
I love the mtb community. Best sport ever. I’m always down for a good time! I’m trying to go to the us open again this year
@@Theshredacademy are they doing it again in Killington this year? That would be awesome!
@@byrond123 yes sir end of sept
Thanks for putting out this video so people like me can learn from advance riders. This is much appreciated.
@@fatzyrider your very welcome. This is what I love to do. The mtb community has been such a positive influence on me, I just want to give back
Best drop instructions on TH-cam.
Thanks man more coming every week
Well illustrated. Thanks.
thanks man as a 52 year old with only 8 months experience, you are really helping me
Thanks!
This is like high level science
Really well explained. Great detail and slow motion really helps. Going to try it now.
Glad it helped!
very useful breakdown of the technique.. helpful indeed. been riding for some years always afraid of drops other than going down a steep.. now i'm going to find a couple small ones and put this to use and get started. Thx!
Glad we could help keep shredding g
Very clear instructions, super helpful, thank you for the sharing❤
great detail explanation with slowmo vid! NICE NICE NICE
Glad you liked it!
Your points about chest and hip position are details I had never given any thought to. You're good at pointing out how trail features create different requirements from the rider.
On a side note, notice my usage of your vs you're. Your content is great so please don't overlook the importance of accuracy in written communication.
Glad it helped sorry for the late reply
Great detailed explanation - thanks! Best I've found for bringing all the detail together that I was missing. Like you I don't live in the burbs so no kerbs to practise on. I'm going to use your scoot and stick methods. I already built a low boardwalk drop but not game to use it yet as I realise I have zero timing and will go OTB.
Glad it was helpful! Sorry for the late relpy
Great video. Such a good explanation.
Thanks so much!
Really good video.
Thank you for the tutorial.
@@brianrusso4588 your welcome
Thank you.
Excellent video, new subscriber
@@firedoody welcome to the club. We have some greet once a year videos coming. We are going to race the us gravity nationals. A lot of content to come. As well as tons of skills videos being edited. Thanks for the support
pls make video about bump jump too, love all of your videos, thanks so much!
@@PhuNguyen-jy8wq I just put it on the list!! Thanks for the suggestion
Great video🤘
Thanks!
Easy to practice these techniques off of a curb. Try to land both tires at the same time.
I appreciate you!
Thank you! I just started my journey and have a lot to learn. These detailed videos surely come in handy!
If I may:
The amount of detail is almost overwhelming: I have trouble watching the video/slowmo/stills while listening to the narration while reading the on screen text while simultaneously paying attention to any green lines being drawn.
The varying audio quality adds to the distraction. Maybe a clip-on mic that is used both on the track and for the voice-overs could remedy that?
Great
A curb is actually a better way to practice this exact concept. The idea is to land both wheels at the same time when riding off of a curb.
Any space is great. But I don’t live in a the burbs. But yes a curb is a great place to practice.
I love love love your videos, thank you so much for this. One suggestion if I may: The video effect of the captions flowing in looks cool but makes at least my brain hurt. I think it would be better to just pop it in and out the classic way and not to "move it in" if that makes any sense.
Thanks for the tip!
Agree
Thank you for the video. Do you have any comments about the "get low and push the front wheel down to the ground asap" method?
That's the right "default" way of doing it. "Rich Drew style" rules. ;)
While knowing and being able to perform that technique is important, I find it a bit problematic when the drop "lip" is not flat. If the lip is uneven or there is something at the end of the lip, having your whole weight on the rear of the bike will cause you to get bucked over your bars
That is what the push or shove is helping prevent. If your pushing your bike off the edge of the drop your creating speed at the last second. If your just hanging there not controlling the bike I.e just sitting in the bike. Yes you could get bucked but no more that maybe going OTB. Thanks for your thoughts hope this helps
ya, if there is a bump at the end, then (i think) you have to use "bump jump" technique, just like a bunny hop.
Hi, Mate I am 52 and have only riden mtb last sumer, I am trying to make a comeback this summer. Your videos have helped me understand what I am doing wrong with jumps, I am 100kg but in pretty good shape, I always blamed my excess muscle for making me a bad jumper, now I see its all technique.
How do I overcome the fear of looping out on the j hoop on the lip of a jump? to get me some more air
Great to hear!
It's not the actual "push technique". You're showing semi-manual/pull technique which should definitely not be a default one, but could be used as the last resort, if your speed is too low. The proper "push" technique requires you to go down and slightly forward with your chest over your stem and then push with your arms forward (or forward and down at the angle of the landing) and that push movement keeps your front wheel moving more forward than down with the gravity. The faster you go, the more subtle the push movement should be.
@@jaad7562 well your right and wrong. The faster you go the less push you need. But if your going slow. Your certainly not hoping of the drop. The push or shove is the best option. And your idea of the push is used for ledges and taught very poorly by the internet. Sorry bud but we appreciate the feed back
@Theshredacademy "the push" I'm talking about is the most effective and the safest technique of doing drops. It just works and I use it constantly since I've learned it. The same technique is taught by Ben Cathro and Rich Drew.
Totally agree, semi maunual is very dangerous. It is one of the most common ways to cause nose dive crashes. Rich Drew’s technique is the most default way to go
@@jaad7562 yeah nooo nothing I said Implied pushing th front end down off the landing. Nor is that good for anything but perfect practice areas. If this where a video about how to go of technical drops yes maybe buuuut Thad obviously not what being taught here. I do appreciate your comments and will make a video that speaks directly to your point
@@Theshredacademy of course not, because you're obviously showing a different technique here, and it's not what I know as "the push" technique. As I said above, I know what you're showing here as "the pull" or semi-manual technique and I personally would not recommend it as a default drop technique, even if it of course works if executed correctly. I simply find "the push" technique (the one which I call so) more effective, controllable, universal and safer. YMMV.
There are 2 types of drops. Ones that I will ride, and ones that I won't ride.
thanks for taking the time, I know you don't have too
It’s what I love to do. Next week I’ll be talking about memberships and the perks. Maybe you’ll be interested, members only coaching perks. Stay tuned
are you going to do one on drops to a steep landing
@@itfc3 sure am
Some tips: wEIght, not wIEght, down, not donw. awarEness vs awarness.
Yeah spelling is my enemy
This looks just like the skills area at Kanuga...
2 Types of MTB Drops. Not 2 Typed. Good information though
@@TheSasquatchNation lol how did I not catch that. Fixed
If you are going so slow, that you need to manual before the drop, then you should not be dropping. if you manual too soon, you can have a lovely over the bar face plant going over the edge of the drop. Just keep the speed, keep your body neutral stans. let you bike just ride over the edge with out pulling up or down and let the bike drop naturally. During the drop You will naturally drop your legs a bit and straiten your arms out a bit to absorb the shock when you land. No need to make it so complicated.
Sorry sir respectfully disagree. Not all drops on the trail can be taken with speed. But thanks for the thoughts. Have a great ride
Look like over the bars scenario😂 explained😅
-10 points for demonstrating with a 40lb e bike lol
Than makes no sense considering it’s about 55lb as well how would more weight make this easier. 🫡
Get rid of the eBike you too young
Bro I’m 40 and film every day for 4 hrs then edit for 5 every day. I’d be dead with out my ebike. But thanks for the ego boost I wish I was a spring chicken again. 4 days at nationals and I’m toast
Nice techniques and Trek e-bike but that hairdo has got to go.
@@mesabman nah sir my dreads are here for a good long while. Unless for some reason you want to pay me 2million to cut them off yourself. But thanks for the riding props. We have more on the way
it’s been 5 months. are you saving up, @mesabman ?
Thanks!
No problem!