Twitch Vocal Coach Reacts to "Ever Dream" by Nightwish (Wacken 2013) | LIVE Floor Jansen Singing

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  • @CharlieCalottaReacts
    @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hey! Welcome to the channel! Feel free to join us on the next live reaction stream by following Charlie at twitch.tv/charliecalotta and join the discord (linked above) for stream updates!

    • @corneliusantonius3108
      @corneliusantonius3108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Floor healed Nightwish and Nightwish healed Floor 🐱‍👤👀🎶 And for you YOUNG FLOOR: After Forever - Monolith Of Doubt Live At Kopspijkers (2002) : th-cam.com/video/3TmKHkQx45U/w-d-xo.html 💕💕💕 And Young Floor singing in an Atrium: Floor Jansen & Red Limo String Quartet : Energize Me (Live accoustic 2009) : th-cam.com/video/HYDT750h4L8/w-d-xo.html 😍😍😍

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicod1361 check the first line of the description, mate 👍

    • @erlaed
      @erlaed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you feel like going for a different vibe, Floor did a fantastic live "O mio babbino caro" at th-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/w-d-xo.html

    • @chriskwakernaat2328
      @chriskwakernaat2328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this was a few months into her being with the band , she joined in 2012 and learned the setlist in 48 hours.there are a few videos from those early performances, the crowd goes wild after every song.

  • @sleni5501
    @sleni5501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    A bit sad the intromusic for your channel is running in the background in the soft beginning of the song :-)

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ah! Guess our editor made a mistake... I'm planning on revisiting this one again, so I'll ammend it then!

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check the first line on the description

    • @PropBoyGinge
      @PropBoyGinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought I was going mental hearing it in the background.

    • @Susirajantakaa
      @Susirajantakaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, that was so disturbing.

    • @jeffwolinski2659
      @jeffwolinski2659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ugh, yes!!! The rhythmic and harmonic dissonance was horrible!!!

  • @geertdelange4785
    @geertdelange4785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Tuomas said, when Floor quit, he wil stop with the band. This is the best.

    • @Whehel
      @Whehel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why "when ?" better "if" ^^'

    • @CattusAgatus
      @CattusAgatus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And what about Marco?

  • @ilkkak3065
    @ilkkak3065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    One little fact. She was recovering from Burn Out, when they asked her to join band for rest of World tour. That's like Phoenix rising from ashes for Floor and band. This concert is moment were Phoenix Speard her wings and fly again. Pure gold. 😊

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Burn out can be caused by being over worked and under-recognized OR by not being challenged enough. The latter is often forgotten. This is a great story!

    • @ilkkak3065
      @ilkkak3065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts Well, lack of Challenge ended to The one phone Call. Learn setlist on 48 hours and same Time fly across Atlantic. There is definetely some Challenge. And from First note of First gig phones filming and everything Would Be straight to YT.
      PS. She was in her sister weddings when they called her....

    • @nicod1361
      @nicod1361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts she was 10 months in at this time, this performance cemented her permanence in the band,btw it was Tuomas who said : she will be our final vocalist, every song at this show is better than the originals, btw a little known tidbit,she was asked to join NW right after the 1st singer was fired but she was busy with her 1st band AfterForever which you must delve into ,she has many operatic segments with :After Forever - Monolith Of Doubt Live At Kopspijkers (2002) : th-cam.com/video/3TmKHkQx45U/w-d-xo.html
      After Forever - Dreamflight Live ProgPower USA VIII (2007): th-cam.com/video/73-_F9prx4I/w-d-xo.html
      After Forever - My Pledge of Allegiance #1 (Live Die Zillo Festival 2004):th-cam.com/video/V4oQuf3XUmo/w-d-xo.html

    • @LuvtheJEm
      @LuvtheJEm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts It was probably a combination of being over worked and emotional distress. She'd been with her first band since she was 16, they broke up in 2009 (she was 28), losing that band was very hard on her. It coincided with the really bad end of her romantic relationship. She threw together a new band and the global economic collapse happened, so money because a bit of a worry, she started teaching to supplement her income. The stress of starting over combined with the emotional hits she'd taken just got to her eventually.

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts Her previous band, Re-Vamp, was very much a Floor DIY band, which was probably leading to her burn out.

  • @geertdelange4785
    @geertdelange4785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    She starts in 2012, North America tour. And learn the setlist in 48 hours.
    This is a year later

    • @AntoniahCH
      @AntoniahCH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is 10 months later. Seatle was 01.10.2012 and Wacken was 03. 08.2013

    • @matthiasbohm2593
      @matthiasbohm2593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whatever ... Wacken 2013 is like THE reference (peak) performance ... if someone is not satisfied with this, he or she is on his or her own.

  • @RaymondBCrisp
    @RaymondBCrisp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Floor totally changed the way this song was delivered vocally. This was written during the Tarja era, so this would have originally been performed in a purely operatic vocal style.

  • @ghostnf9650
    @ghostnf9650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    When you hear Noise, Pan or Shoemaker from the 2020 Human:||:Nature album you will hear how they have been evolving to basically being a whole genre of Metal on their own. Nothing compares, nothing is the same.

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can't wait to hear them

    • @ghostnf9650
      @ghostnf9650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts Noise has a brutal music video, the others have official lyric videos. No live videos because of the pandemic. Its a masterpiece

    • @nighthiker
      @nighthiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "How's The Heart?" is from the last album, though - so there's at least an acoustic version of it (which Charlie has already listened to, by the way).

    • @ascensionenergetics85
      @ascensionenergetics85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts I would plan on a double listen to Noise. There’s too much to focus on both visually & musically to catch in one viewing 🔥🤙

  • @ari-etta
    @ari-etta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You should listen to Shoemaker. Floor said in an interview that when composing this song they struggled with the end of it, then Floor took it home to work on it. She later said that she finally got a good end to the song but listening back she surprised herself with it thinking: "Is this me?" Apparently she found a new layer to her voice. Btw articulation is a big part in singing in the Netherlands. Singers often learn to speak the lyrics before they start singing it and a some of them get lessons in speaking without accents. It also helps that in the Netherlands they learn English and not American in school and that helps a lot in pronouncing the words completely and helps a better jaw movement.

  • @svarozjov
    @svarozjov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny fact: most of Nightwish popular hits was not written for Floor, but Floor made most of that songs even better. For instance, Ghost Love Score and Poet and the Pendulum was not written for her, but she made it absolutely hers. She even brought back to life some earlier songs that was simply not valued before, like Devil and a Deep Dark Ocean. After Buenos Aires, 15 years old song became absolute hit.

  • @Cobinja
    @Cobinja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    You should watch Floor sing the Vilja Lied from The Merry Widow and Phantom of the Opera with Henk Poort, the original Dutch Phantom. She did both in 2019 on the Dutch TV show Beste Zangers.

  • @NeilOosthuizen
    @NeilOosthuizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Nah - She slays this song from start to finish and sounds exactly as she intended to...

  • @HeliRy
    @HeliRy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Floor has said that for her, this is the most difficult NW song to sing. You can tell too, she’s really pushing herself hard 🔥🔥

  • @anrakspumante5958
    @anrakspumante5958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This wasnt her first concert! She was touring some month together with Nightwish. This 2013 Wacken Concert is the best liveperformance i have ever seen. It was the birth of the Valkyrie Godness. Check out the whole concert, its epic!

  • @TerribleChester
    @TerribleChester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Floor had been with the band for roughly 10 months at the time of this show. She was not yet an official member of the band, They had done 2 other "big" shows back in Europe since Floor came aboard, but Wacken was her defacto introduction to many of their fans across the continent. Floor has said she was very focused on singing every note perfectly for this show, especially where Ghost Love Score is concerned as it's her favorite Nightwish song, and they had changed up the ending at her request. At the time of this show, no songs had been written "for Floor" all the songs being done were from albums made with Tarja and Anette. If Floor's vocals sound brighter, or younger, in the performances from this show, that's because it was 7 years ago now. The audio mix from this performance is also a work of art, I mean look how bad the video quality is as compared to the sound quality. I'm sure that has something to do with it as well.
    Great reactions, I'm really enjoying the Nightwish content, and I'd love to try to find one of your streams to watch them live. Keep it up.

  • @billattercliffe8655
    @billattercliffe8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In Episode 17 of the Endless Forms Most Beautiful album documentary, the interviewer asks Tuomas a question. He starts off with his reply talking about writing songs to fit Floor's voice, then he laughs derisively at himself for saying something ridiculous.
    I think what you're hearing her is her progression with the band rather than anything about fitting music to her voice. Floor had been with the band for ten months here and had not been officially announced as the permanent lead singer. She joined Nightwish in Seattle in October 2012 after flying over from the Netherlands, while learning the setlist on the plane.
    Here's an interesting exercise for you. Listen to "Ghost Love Score" at Buenos Airies 2012, two monthes after she joined the band, then here at Wacken in 2013 and then later at Tampere in 2015. We see not so much her growth vocally (and she has grown in her Nightwish time), but rather the growth in confidence that comes with being secure in her position and in her knowledge of their discography.
    I totally agree that Tuomas + Floor has enabled both to soar. Listen to the Human :||: Nature album to see how far they have progressed.

    • @billattercliffe8655
      @billattercliffe8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nothing in Wacken was written with Floor in mind. It was all Tarja and Anette music. "Third and last" also refers to a comment made by Tuomas that if Floor leaves, that's it for Nightwish. BTW, a lot of the music in the Decades tour in 2018 was the old stuff.

  • @pahema472
    @pahema472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I consider this concert her coronation, in front of aaaaaaallllllll those Nightwish fans from around the world. Here she established herself as the lead vocalist of the band. (Par excellence, IM not so HO) I bought this as well as the Wembley Arena/Ratina Stadion Blue-Ray's and I love them all. All great. This concert, however, was very special. Again, IMNSHO. Cheers from the land of Aus. \m/ \m/

  • @masterrubyan2976
    @masterrubyan2976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And a bit of info: Floor Jansen did start singing in her own band After Forever in 1996 thats about a year or 2 years after Nightwish started, so she had a career before Nightwish. Tuomas did choose her because he did know her and because he whas convinced that she could learn and sing the songs within 48 hours during the North American tour of 2012, when the change of singers happend.

  • @Riksi80
    @Riksi80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listening to Anette sing this song live is like listening to a finnish pub having a karaoke evening on a friday.

  • @SRMWorkshop
    @SRMWorkshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Her first gig with NW was in Seattle about 10 months before this concert. But at this point she was still not an official part of the band.

    • @nickwilbers5266
      @nickwilbers5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The band asked her to be their permanent singer before the summer festivals in 2013. So not official at this moment

    • @AntoniahCH
      @AntoniahCH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seattle was 1.10.2012 and Wacken was 3.8.2013

  • @Whehel
    @Whehel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, this song was written for Tarja originally. Sung by Anette and then by Floor. The version from Tarja FEELS SO DIFFERENT but both are exhilarating!!

  • @yabby6550
    @yabby6550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yes, Floor's joining NW has been a win-win case. Both have benefited.

    • @lazaruslong697
      @lazaruslong697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Win-win-win actually. Cause we are benefiting most from that. ;)

  • @eddiecreutzburg7375
    @eddiecreutzburg7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A Masterpiece of Belting that even the Gods can hear in Asgard.

  • @NV-NS
    @NV-NS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watched most of your videos and your input has gained you another subscriber. Reasons I watch Tank for stage production and chase for how he breaks down music.
    And thanks for covering nightwish a band I've grown up with since childhood cant wait for the chance everyone can go see them live once again.

  • @Donna-C
    @Donna-C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You mentioned Tuomas 5:47 & his talents writing for the different singers styles & Floor learning a lot from him - 👌🏻
    This song at the End of an Era Show is definitely worth a look - with Tarja - her last show but she did not know that - but Tuomas did.. he felt it 😢 so did the rest of the band.

  • @pekkakarppinen1608
    @pekkakarppinen1608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes, this concert is one if the greatest moments in history. And l think that it was Tuomas himself, who said that Floor is the last singer of Nightwish. She's so trained that the high belting is probably as easy to him than ordinary speaking is to us. That's why the words remain so clear.

  • @heedoei
    @heedoei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Epica featuring floor Jansen? Sancta Terra?

  • @gyoker81
    @gyoker81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The last Concert of the Tour when She joined to the Band as Support Singer. After this Show, and the end of the Tour She was asked to be the next Singer of the Band

    • @gyoker81
      @gyoker81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And this was the Show when I became loved again and more by NW

  • @fiechteram
    @fiechteram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Every Nightwish song is writen for Floor but Tuomas didn't know that!

  • @Djek1957
    @Djek1957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think this is probably the best live version of Ever dream from Floor, better than the later.

  • @helenooft9664
    @helenooft9664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nightwish is so united with each other, that everything is an adventure for our ears, they are my favorite band.

  • @sjolson68
    @sjolson68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    None of the music played in 2013 was written for/with her. Their first studio album together was Endless Forms Most Beautiful in 2015. By the time of Wacken 2013, she had been singing this material for about a full year.

  • @thatoneguyagain2252
    @thatoneguyagain2252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe you're correct in pointing out Floor's growing confidence as Nightwish's singer, both as a member of the band and in her comfort with music originally written for other singers. In the years since, Floor has freed Tuomas to write whatever he wants - there are no limitations to work around, as Floor can sing whatever he writes. This freedom has also pushed Tuomas' creative efforts; he now has to write better material, to take full advantage Floor's capabilities. Both of them benefit, and as a result, WE benefit. I'm really looking forward to the next twenty years of this band - we may have to redefine the word "Epic". Again.
    (MAKE AMERICA NIGHTWISH)

    • @sateentuoksu
      @sateentuoksu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen. You put into words what i've been thinking of -though not so clearly articulated.
      And i think her good aura with her warmth and joy bring also smtg for all the boys/the team spirit. Like freedom to fully enjoy just being there, playing together (without drama)

  • @MWHBowen
    @MWHBowen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh your right, this concert is a piece of history

  • @BjarniSig
    @BjarniSig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who the music was written for which you've seen so far.
    In Order
    Song: Ghost Love Score - Type: Nightwish - Album: Once - Year: 2004 - Era(Singer): Tarja
    Song: Shallow - Type: Beste Zangers - Album: Cover
    Song: Let It Go - Type: Floor - Album: Cover
    Song: How's the Heart (Accoustic) - Type: Nightwish - Album: Human.:II: Nature. - Year: 2020 - Era(Singer): Floor
    Song: Elvenpath - Type: Nightwish - Album: Angels Fall First - Year: 1997 - Era(Singer): Tarja
    Song: Your's is an Empty Hope - Type: Nightwish - Album: Endless Forms Most Beautiful - Year: 2015 - Era(Singer): Floor
    Song: The Islander - Type: Nightwish - Album: Dark Passion Play - Year: 2007 - Era(Singer): Marco Singing during Annette era
    Song: Ever Dream - Type - Nightwish - Album: Century Child - Year: 2002 - Era(Singer): Tarja

  • @_amadeus__
    @_amadeus__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The song is from the Tarja era, but Floor doesn't sing it the way Tarja does. Both are great, just a different sound.

    • @RaymondBCrisp
      @RaymondBCrisp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. Floor most often re-interprets the vocal parts to add emphasis to the song she's performing. Watch both Tarja's and Floor's versions of Ghost Love Score to see this play out. Floor could have sung the whole song in purely operatic fashion had that been her preference. Instead, she switched things up vocally, going from an angelic operatic vocal at the beginning, to a head/chest mix just before the interlude, then coming out after the interlude into a full on chest belt voice, and moving on to a section where she goes from operatic to a raspy tone, then she adds in some operatic stabs (which I've heard several music instructor reactors refer to as an advanced technique), and finally finishes out with an amazing belt that raises most everyone's eyebrows when they hear it. They may both be great, because Tarja is a great vocalist, but you tell me which rendition you think is more vocally interesting? My money's on Floor's version.

    • @kookoo9235
      @kookoo9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm heavily against redoing anything from Tarja era especially the early albums, those are beastly shit through and through but this works with Floors take too. Still prefer Tarja's version since it has little darker edge to it.

  • @garethbowen5993
    @garethbowen5993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    She was in her early 30s then now she will be 40 next birthday.

    • @minoozeta
      @minoozeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's funny how we all were 8 years younger 8 years ago.

  • @matthewlayo9561
    @matthewlayo9561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thomas has said that if floor were to leave the band, night wish is over. He said he just couldn't go through finding another singer again. So floor is the last.

    • @WitchoftheNight
      @WitchoftheNight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      th-cam.com/video/hhPQ5LAa5rw/w-d-xo.html
      That's what he said. Nothing about "if floor leaves, nw is over". Stop misquoting.

  • @johnterry1852
    @johnterry1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    She is The Goddess Voice of Heaven and Earth. Yes, she learned this on 48 hours. You are absolutely right. They improved each other.

    • @slavkocavka9255
      @slavkocavka9255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She didn't learn it for this concert in 48 hours. It happened while touring in the US in 2012.

    • @johnterry1852
      @johnterry1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slavkocavka9255 I didn't say she learned it in 48 for this concert. She learned the set in 48.

  • @tommyjohnson9175
    @tommyjohnson9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Job, loving it all...

  • @jayewnts2ply2
    @jayewnts2ply2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that you are correct in that both Floor and Tuomas have grown together over time. Their collaboration has been special. One thing you can see from the Wacken show is all the candid instances where Tuomas glances around at Floor and the other band members and grinning like a not fool... But he is obviously very happy with what is happening.

  • @robvandeschepop8595
    @robvandeschepop8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Recently Floor told that "Ever Dream" is the song that she find most difficult to sing, because it was written for a more operatic voice.

  • @marianogonzalez1977
    @marianogonzalez1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What you said about her movement in the scenary, watch one of my recomendations... "I want my tears back" live in Buenos Aires 2018, is a lot of fun happening in the stage.

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can't wait to hear it!

    • @goranelez9956
      @goranelez9956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hearing that one is just about 50% of what's going on. Seeing is the other half.

  • @su5517
    @su5517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You have to see Ghost Love Score, live at wacken 2013.

  • @chrisgoldston9755
    @chrisgoldston9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You comment about the band and Floor healing each other is so spot on 😎🤘🔥....oh and how good is Marko in this as well

  • @christinaalgate4899
    @christinaalgate4899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At this concert Floor was with the band for 10 months. In 2012 is when she took over for Annete and had 48 hrs. You should watch it the video . Floor and Tarja have been friends for yrs. She was 32 here and she will be 40 in Feb. Most of the songs in this concert are from Tarja and so is Sleeping Sun. Marco will be 55 in January.

  • @nichep1
    @nichep1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anything from this concert is amazing. Storytime will blow your mind.

  • @jeffwolinski2659
    @jeffwolinski2659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this right now and he just cut off Marko halfway through his first line!!! Never cut off Marko!!! This song is so damn good and so is Floor of course, but it goes nuclear when Marko chimes in.

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. We've been watching more of his featured singing on stream. Absolutely legend!

  • @taradwipa
    @taradwipa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nightwish make me come here, i love ur reaction,greetings from Indonesia 🥰😍🤩

  • @terryhenderson3490
    @terryhenderson3490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greeting from the UK . You said it was an opening up for the band and singer . Then you are in for a treat when you get to there latest album Human , ask the Nightwish army but i think you must do the Album in order on the CD that's the way it was written . Thank you for your honest and insightful reaction to this wonderful Band , you are in for along ride with Nightwish . Looking forward to seeing more of your reactions .

  • @Sleawzor
    @Sleawzor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i fully agree, while floor is clearly amazing either way, she definitely makes the songs more 'her own' as time progresses!

  • @larryd4352
    @larryd4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One. Of my favorite songs of theirs!!!

  • @robertturner8040
    @robertturner8040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As others have said this is 10 months at the end of the tour she joined halfway through so she hadn't put the Floor twist on things yet .She new she was an official member at this concert along with Troy but it had not been announced yet .Floor added Ghost L.S. back on the set list on the tour as Anette didn't do it, changing the ending .The next Album Endless Forms Most Beautiful was worked on with Floor along with Human II Nature and they have band camp where they stay and practice for tours this was the point where the work was done and Floor did small changes to the older songs .This shows in concerts after 2013.

  • @keithteaser
    @keithteaser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should do Delain a Day for Ghosts (Live Pro Shot Broerenkerk ft. Floor & Marco) its before Floor was a member of Nightwish..

  • @masterrubyan2976
    @masterrubyan2976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This concert has been the last concert of the wold tour 2012-2013 so this is a year after she joined the band.

  • @mickoldbear3008
    @mickoldbear3008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the fact that you are showing the artists due respect by having them "centre stage" with you in the insert instead of the other way round.... Its a trend I'd like to see others try... Interesting reaction, keep up the good work. 🤘

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ego driven TH-cam "vocal coaches"... I make no money here, nor do I want to do anything other than celebrate vocal excellence.
      I make my face bigger when I want to show an example of something. Otherwise, it's more important to see the performance im commenting on. My knowledge is the tool, not my face.

  • @shuriken4852
    @shuriken4852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To get a better understanding of how she came to be the singer of Nigthwish, I would suggest watching the documentary Please Learn The Setlist in 46 Hours which is available on TH-cam.

  • @sandy1653
    @sandy1653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Floor had been with the band for coming up on a year at the point of the Wacken '13 concert and I think this was right before they announced her (and Troy) as permanent members of the band. If you go to Nightwish's channel, they have a recording of Ghost Love Score that was recorded at their 2012 Buenos Aires show, which was one of the earliest concerts with her in the band.

  • @oniccolls
    @oniccolls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually, all of these songs were written for Floor. Tuomas just didn't know it at the time.

  • @peccatumDei
    @peccatumDei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, Floor replaced Anette Olzon mid tour and had to learn the set list in two days, but that was half a year and many, many performances before Wacken 2013.

  • @ambergreenemusic
    @ambergreenemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to see you react to Floor do Ghost Love Score from that same concert. I am a singer myself and it is one of my absolute favorite performances of hers! (I was actually moved to tears 🤪) Also, highly recommend her duet with Hank Port doing Phantom of the Opera!!! She was on a show called Beste Zengers and pretty much every song she did on that show was great. She is a pretty amazing talent and I love the band Nightwish as well!

  • @Duskwind_
    @Duskwind_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is my favorite song, and you can probably understand why. It just takes your breath away.

  • @thomaslilly9558
    @thomaslilly9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    B B S...Nice react, thanks. This was a number of months after the 48 hour list cram. This was her first major venue with Floor fronting.....82K seeing her live for the first time. None of this music was written for her, all Tarja and Anette originals. Funny you mention her airy lite sound.....She has two MasterClass videos on TH-cam now....Watched #2 this morning....It's about breathing while singing and air control !

  • @pen7759
    @pen7759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes you are right, because of Floor´s incredible talent and technics Tuomas
    is now able to compose almost anything for her to sing.
    If you one day listen to NW Human Nature albums, you will find out
    how difficult and beautiful pieces of art there are, for Floor to sing.

  • @henkraadmaar4072
    @henkraadmaar4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was not her first concert, but first tour with Nightwish. And yes..... all songs were written for Tarja or Annet

  • @timometsanoja9666
    @timometsanoja9666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, this is the tour when she was made a permanent member of Nightwish... But this is not the first gig she did with Nightwish. So she had some experience on these songs prior to this gig.
    And yes, Tuomas did compose the songs for their current singers. So this was composed with Tarja at vocals... And at this point they didn't have any songs done with Floor. But she does rock her way through these very well... Annette was the rebound girl for the band. They had to change the music to fit her less powerful output... And Floor and Tarja would also crush these songs.

  • @Thorgrim247
    @Thorgrim247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really love your reaction and analysis style my friend. So intelligent and musically knowledgeable. It sets you apart from other reactors. You are so right on Charlie. Floor is a master at starting a song and leaving room vocally for it to build to a climax. Once again I think you nailed it "Floor made Nightwish better and Nightwish made Floor even better than she was before". You really can hear how each successive chorus got stronger as the song progressed. On some Nights Floor holds back a little on belting and uses more of her mixed head voice to be able to preserve her voice while on tour. Love it my friend. Peace.

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm SO SO appreciative of your comments always, Thorgrim! Thank you for always being here!

  • @taurusguy9305
    @taurusguy9305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact: Floor is the tallest member of Nightwish. Standing 1.83 m (6 feet amazon goddess). Emmpu is shortest (1.6 m).

  • @corinna007
    @corinna007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a reaction suggestion for you: JP Leppäluoto. He's from Finland. I believe he's a baritone, and I've never heard another voice quite like his. The best quality live video I've found of him is a cover of a popular Finnish song called "Mombasa" (it's quite a simple song, just six verses with no chorus, and he doesn't really show his range until the last few seconds, but I still love it). The video is under the name Raskasta Iskelmää, but it's easy to find. His first solo song "Kuoppa", or any song he sings with Dark Sarah or his first band Charon show his voice very well, too.

  • @marcusbonde9142
    @marcusbonde9142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My thoughts about what you say about the different sound of Floor's singing 2013 and 2015 is that in 2012 both band and her was in "survival-mode" according to herself. 10 months later she has had some time to do some adjustments 'on the fly' together with the band. But two years later, when "Endless forms..." was released she had the opportunity to shape the songs together with the band from first rehearsal. Listen to this interview with her and Marco, and I think one gets some insight: th-cam.com/video/BMGoXjZ5clo/w-d-xo.html

  • @moimeme8827
    @moimeme8827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just 4 recommendations for the work of Floor the goddess ;) :
    - "dead boy's poem- live in Buenos Aires" -> she always send me to the stratosphere !!!
    - "Shoemaker" -> incredible diction and flow and then, the end ...... no word !
    - "devil ans the deep dark ocean" (Buenos Aires live) -> O M G !
    - of course this master piece: "phantom of the opera", beste zangers, duet Henk Poort and Floor.

  • @cz-27love44
    @cz-27love44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On the last album (Human nature) Tuomas really challenged Floor. Especially in the songs ‘Music’ and ‘Shoemaker’. Only she can sind those songs, I think.

    • @ollivgv
      @ollivgv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      H:N is a pure boring shit

  • @markartruc2660
    @markartruc2660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely agree with everything you just said!

  • @drneildurrant
    @drneildurrant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these... so interesting. I get that you have a long list of things to get through, but I would strongly recommend Storytime as your next Nightwish song...

  • @papaverweg
    @papaverweg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree. Both said several times in interviews that they did challenge each other to take the best out of each song. Tuomas also has changed some balance s between the choir volume and Floor’s voice and Floor is added some vocal parts which in the original song only the choir was singing. You definitely sees that as you compare the version sung by Tarja at ‘The End of an Era’ concert with the version Floor is singing at Wacken.
    Floor re-started giving vocal lessons and recently she released #1 and #2 called Vocal MasterClass. #1 was about not to stress the jaw and #2 about breath control. In it I think she explained how you could be so relaxed while singing. th-cam.com/video/wIOaJW38XUU/w-d-xo.html

  • @dorteljungberg8945
    @dorteljungberg8945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You neeeed to see I want My tears back in Buenos Aires 2018, you know why when you see it 🤘🏻🎶❤️🎄

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, this was written for her; Tuomas just didn't realize it yet. Some stuff sung by the other vocalists (Amaranth, even Poet and the Pendulum to some extent, The Siren, etc etc etc) works well, but this is just better with Floor's timbre and sheer power.

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Look for Beste Zangers with Floor. You’ll be amazed.
    Also listen to the album Decades where the old songs are sung by Floor the way she wants.

  • @masterrubyan2976
    @masterrubyan2976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sleeping Sun is also not written for Floor.... By the way, Tuomas Holopainen wanted Floor as a singer in 2004 after Tarja had to leave, but she had her own band so Anette Olson joined Nightwish. The first album written for Floor are on the album Endless forms most beautiful 2015.

  • @marinaandersson4381
    @marinaandersson4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Marco😍😍

  • @marioariasp8208
    @marioariasp8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As you say these songs are not writed for her and in some specific songs that noticed a lot ( at least if you know Nightwish) for example Planet Hell, Slaying the Dreamer or 10th man down. React to them with Tarja, the first vocalist.

  • @pickboaa
    @pickboaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She would be the first to say that she aswell as Nightwish have grown over the years. She talked about it last week when she was on Tarjas instagram channel that her voice has evolved over the years.

  • @danielorthas9868
    @danielorthas9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was written for tarja turunen, the very first singer of the band

  • @joeyc785
    @joeyc785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey, you should definitely check out Ayreon the eye of rah live show and the age of shadows live show featuring Floor Jansen and Marco from nightwish, awesome awesome thanks 😊

  • @LNKOutdoors
    @LNKOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She joined the group 2012, they flew her over to USA for some concerts, so this is not the first gig :)

  • @Roller4x4
    @Roller4x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should hear her in
    Revamp - disdain

  • @warhammer5690
    @warhammer5690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For an interesting unlabeled bands vocalist check out Liliacs Melody. She has original vocals and covers of Metallica, Joplin, Ozzy, Dio, Jefferson Airplane and Iron Maiden. I'd recommend these three. Iron Maidens The Trooper, then Dios Holy Diver then a dive into originals like Nothing or We Are the Children, then finish with the ballad, Sail Away.

  • @eFiend
    @eFiend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    don't sleep on marko, you should do high hopes, the pink floyd tribute. marko singing and emppu shredding 🤘
    and no this wasn't that night. the 48h thing was 10 months back.

  • @jonhorrocks
    @jonhorrocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She said in a recent Fan Friday that Everdream was the hardest NW song she had to learn as it was so high.

  • @michaellein2389
    @michaellein2389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next one: Storytime from Wacken 2013. It'l blow your mind away!

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ever dream of me ? ermmmm Floor 😜😁😍 By the way Tuomas sais in an Interview that Floor will be the last Female Vocalist of Nightwish. He went even so far to say without Floor no Nightwish. 👀🎶🐱‍👤

  • @carinalundstrom7566
    @carinalundstrom7566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No comments of Marko? He is awesome

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly truly! His voice is like pure steel! Waiting to feature him in some upcoming stuff though

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes with live reactions, we get hyper focused on one specific singer or aspect of the song. Will definitely revisit this song eventually

    • @GLENN-pj4mr
      @GLENN-pj4mr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Marko is sooo underated

    • @kwes8466
      @kwes8466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I was bummed about that too. Even interrupted him at first. Allthough I can understand why certain reactors (vical coaches, classical/opera singers) focus a lot on Floor (I mean she is fantastic!) to go through THIS song without a marko shoutout... ☹️ No hard feeling though 😀 Still enjoyed the reaction!

    • @jacquimarat9723
      @jacquimarat9723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts One of the things you will find in the Nightwish Army is who was a better singer...Tarja or Floor....my answer is Marco.

  • @ArtMateurMusic
    @ArtMateurMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of songs sounds better in the Tarja era... both versions are good, but this is more epic with Tarja and Marko youngs in chorus..full power

  • @pantlessreactions
    @pantlessreactions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you do the new Human Nature album, I'd recommend doing the songs in order. Tuomas wrote the songs too really challenge Floor's vocal range and styles.

  • @BlueCipher
    @BlueCipher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To quote her response to the question "In hindsight, do you think you could have learnt that setlist in 46 hours?" - Floor: "Well, I f***in' did!"
    Source: Floor Jansen Fan Friday Video "My Totally Accurate Height" from 4 Dec 2020

  • @nighthiker
    @nighthiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, Charlie! Another nice one (as we're getting used to see)! If I may add something to your commentary that I haven't seen anyone touch on yet... What you said about both the band and Floor growing together since then is on point, of course - but there's something else to it, I think: Floor also appears to have put a lot of effort into each of the older songs in order to not seem to be just mimicking the previous singer they were written for - I guess both as a sign of respect and to avoid needless comparisons (without much success in the later case, I'd venture). Tarja's rendition of this song is a lot more subdued, so I guess she decided to do it on a more "belty" way and on a higher octave to make it distinct - the result is great, as always, but in a sense the delivery is not as dynamic as in some of the other songs, even from that same concert.

    • @CharlieCalottaReacts
      @CharlieCalottaReacts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adriano, you're totally right it would seem. A true vocal artist has to make a song their own while also respecting its history. No room for idleness even if it was written for someone else. The entire culture of vocal teaching surrounds learning from those before you, the teachers and singers who had songs written just for their voices. No room for jealousy or anything that gets in the way of real art. I like your take! Thank you!

    • @nighthiker
      @nighthiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CharlieCalottaReacts I am by no means an expert on any of this, be it musicianship or vocal techniques, so please take anything I write with a grain of salt (and feel free to point to anything you feel is a mistake on my part - I'm here to learn, foremostly). Something else that might also be an influence on her performance on this one is that for good or bad (usually good) Floor never strays from what the music would require of her at any given moment. Considering this is one of the less complex, less varied songs as far as composition goes, once she picks the strategy for her delivery there's less room for her to explore different voice qualities. I am inclined to think this way because there are some other songs on that set list that have a lot more contrast to them, and where she uses both this "beltier" approach but also lighter, warmer tones, like in "She Is My Sin". I'd love to hear your thoughts on this once you reach that one.

  • @danielorthas9868
    @danielorthas9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed to see more of my favorite nightwish, tarja and floor)

  • @sateentuoksu
    @sateentuoksu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing i've been wondering since i heard Tuomas was thinking in 1996 while imagening about this "small project band" ("maybe some demos - but definitely no gigs" 😁 )
    He was thinking about a band with flutes etc, and a female singer -doing some etheric melodic songs.. well, how i heard smtg from those earliest, i think it's good they first went wholly to dramatic and dark, even blackish.
    But what about now.. isn't the circle closing: he can do all the things they've been doing, and also that esotheric soft, angelic, floaty, melodic, harmonic, fairylike ... She'll live through all of those. And do it with such devotion it was like her breathing -so natural, honest and real

  • @TheRuiner66
    @TheRuiner66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a year after she joined the band.

  • @kirolord81
    @kirolord81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have to do High Hopes by Nightwish on the night they fired Tarja.

  • @jalf0007
    @jalf0007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can someone please explain to me how are we supposed to replace Marko?