I would just like to say as someone involved in the medical field in a clerical role, and with a background in radiology. Perhaps it is something for the AFLPA and the AFL itself to sit down and discuss, regarding medical imaging being available at venues. This is something the NFL has had in place since 2015, and was implemented via their collective agreement, where the NFL agreed to invest more in player healthcare. This includes at a mininum, x-ray scanners, and up to MRI scanners in select venues. We are laughably behind best practice.
Grade 5 laceration is the most severe short of losing it entirely. He needed to be protected from himself. I understand that it was a calculated risk, but boy do I hope we take learnings from this.
There is no excuse for him not being sent to hospital straight away. You are right he needed to be protected from himself, which is the club doctor’s job. Only 2 scenarios I can see for how this happened. Either the doctor ran the tests and assessed but is borderline incompetent and missed all the warning signs. Or the doctor did not run any tests more than just asking Petracca how he felt and if he wanted to play on. Either one should result in a new doctor.
How about just erring on the side of safety next time? Severe pain is suggestive of severe injury, getting him back on the field should be 99th on their list of priorities.
Who cares about a balanced team? They don't actually play any games. It should be best midfielders, best forwards, best defenders, best rucks. Full stop.
Well, it could also be based upon who are the best players... well all know the best players are the ones in the middle. A middle player will generally beat a forward or back if they changed positions.
@JGFormentin - no, he specifically said he wanted a balance of all roles... I disagree. If you pick six fullbacks and six full-forwards, that's fine with me, as long as they are the best players for 2024. 😅
Man the AA selection is crazy with the biase's they have. Jeremy Cameron is a perfect example, he has played 2 good games 1 being against north. Tom Stewert has also not been very good this year yet is in their midseason conversation. Fritsch has been bad, Mihocek has played barely any footy and its been mid, Pendles hasn't played much and has been okay, Rozee hasnt played much and was good but not standout, ect.... You get the idea. All of these players somehow made it in over Treloar, the most consistent player of the year. Toby Greene has been mid, Tom Green has gone missing the last 6 weeks. Or was all this just who they were marking for or againts and all ended up in the 76 they talked about? How tf was Treloar not in there or is he just a lock atm. They'll probably still find a way to get Tom Stewart in their over Andrews like last year lol If they want this to actually be taken seriously, they need to have non media people do it.
This absolute nonsense about all club doctors having the best interests of the players is laughable every time i hear it. There are certain clubs - Port is one - whose players are secondary to the mission of winning the game. Theres just been way too much evidence that confirms this opinion. The AFL are also to blame. They have failed time and again to implement procedures that protect players unless theyve got legal action looming, and then they correct. Why do other contact sports have medical imaging atbthe venue and the billion dollar sport of AFL doesn't?
Yeah, Drs are sacrosanct, it's a class* thing, you can't say anything against the Drs without a backlash. The Drs are club first, team second, player's at best third if you are a star player. Though, Melbourne was prepared to risk Christian Petracca because Melbourne's season was on the line. So, club first, Christian Petracca second the other day because of Melbourne's poor ladder position. Of course, a load of people will disagree with me, but it's just so obvious over the years that players in the main are expendable. *Medical Drs have been held by society as elite members of society for centuries, and often beyond criticism. One of the reasons we fail to hold Drs to account the way we should, even though they make quite a few mistakes, is the system would fall down if we could prosecute them for everything we should. It would also produce a watershed in the court system we could not deal with. So many Drs should not even be practicing medicine, but the system allows them to flourish, because if we allow them to be prosecuted and struck off who would we have left, well definitely not enough Drs to go around, which we don't have now. Medicine, Law and Theology use to be the big three degrees, with the most prestige.
Im a bombers support and Maynard played his absolute socks off. He was harder and tougher at the ball than any of the Melbourne players. He id an absolute gun
You know who's team doesn't leak a ton of goals? The Swans. You know who's backline leaks a ton of goals? Everyone else. This AA teams backline should be stacked with Swans. We mostly score from our back half!
None of the WB players should aspire to be All Australian as Bevo dropsplayers from the team if they play well. The latest victim is Riley Garcia: over 20 possessions a game, 5 goal assists, lots of tackles and high efficacy in defense and BAM! He is replaced with an incompetent rookie. Caleb Poulter and Oskar Baker were also victims. When Bevo placed turn-over specialist Harvey Gallagher on Nick Daicos, the coach identified himself as unqualified.
Yeah, Drs are sacrosanct, it's a class* thing, you can't say anything against the Drs without a backlash. The Drs are club first, team second, player's at best third if you are a star player. Though, Melbourne was prepared to risk Christian Petracca because Melbourne's season was on the line. So, club first, Christian Petracca second the other day because of Melbourne's poor ladder position. Of course, a load of people will disagree with me, but it's just so obvious over the years that players in the main are expendable. *Medical Drs have been held by society as elite members of society for centuries, and often beyond criticism. One of the reasons we fail to hold Drs to account the way we should, even though they make quite a few mistakes, is the system would fall down if we could prosecute them for everything we should. It would also produce a watershed in the court system we could not deal with. So many Drs should not even be practicing medicine, but the system allows them to flourish, because if we allow them to be prosecuted and struck off who would we have left, well definitely not enough Drs to go around, which we don't have now. Medicine, Law and Theology use to be the big three degrees, with the most prestige.
As an Essendon supporter, I agree that he is very overrated as a "defender". Way too many cheap possessions, and not that damaging coming out of defense. However, on a wing, or even as a half forward, he is underrated.
For a mid season draftee he has been better than most in regards of expectations. He has some flaws at the moment but he is still young and only time will tell where he sits. Essendon are better with him in the team.
Maynard calling himself a good bloke doesn't make him a good bloke. He snipes players extremely often, plays with an "edge" that usually ends up with a player left behind in pain.
This is blatantly incorrect. Name the number of times he has been sent to the tribunal for rough conduct and been found guilty? If you dislike the bloke that's fair enough but if you don't know him on a personal level you have no known way to quantify his character as good or bad besides what you see for 1 hour a week on a TV screen.
@@breadstav4193 Finally someone else with some sense. I'm so sick of the vitriol thrown at Maynard for literally no reason. Seeing shit like 'sniper', 'dog' and 'dirty player' is getting tiresome. He's actually one of the fairest players in the competition, oppo supporters are just letting their jealousy show because he plays harder and with more passion than anyone in their own team.
@@lukekillender3695 'literally no reason'. Cmon how one eyed do you have to be. Blokes like Dangerfield play at 100 miles an hour like Maynard but don't end up consistently sniping and playing the man instead of the ball.
Maynard should be in jail for assault for what he did to Brayshaw. Instead he got protection from the AFL so he could play in a ‘fairytale’ premiership.
I would just like to say as someone involved in the medical field in a clerical role, and with a background in radiology.
Perhaps it is something for the AFLPA and the AFL itself to sit down and discuss, regarding medical imaging being available at venues.
This is something the NFL has had in place since 2015, and was implemented via their collective agreement, where the NFL agreed to invest more in player healthcare. This includes at a mininum, x-ray scanners, and up to MRI scanners in select venues.
We are laughably behind best practice.
I like how we can now see the thought process behind player selection
Sounds like opposition players had greater duty of care than Melbourne club doctors and bench personnel
Grade 5 laceration is the most severe short of losing it entirely. He needed to be protected from himself. I understand that it was a calculated risk, but boy do I hope we take learnings from this.
There is no excuse for him not being sent to hospital straight away. You are right he needed to be protected from himself, which is the club doctor’s job. Only 2 scenarios I can see for how this happened. Either the doctor ran the tests and assessed but is borderline incompetent and missed all the warning signs. Or the doctor did not run any tests more than just asking Petracca how he felt and if he wanted to play on. Either one should result in a new doctor.
How about just erring on the side of safety next time? Severe pain is suggestive of severe injury, getting him back on the field should be 99th on their list of priorities.
Who cares about a balanced team? They don't actually play any games. It should be best midfielders, best forwards, best defenders, best rucks. Full stop.
That's what he means by balanced team 😂 he's saying don't just fill HF and HB with midfielders like they used to.
Well, it could also be based upon who are the best players... well all know the best players are the ones in the middle. A middle player will generally beat a forward or back if they changed positions.
@JGFormentin - no, he specifically said he wanted a balance of all roles... I disagree. If you pick six fullbacks and six full-forwards, that's fine with me, as long as they are the best players for 2024. 😅
Man the AA selection is crazy with the biase's they have. Jeremy Cameron is a perfect example, he has played 2 good games 1 being against north. Tom Stewert has also not been very good this year yet is in their midseason conversation. Fritsch has been bad, Mihocek has played barely any footy and its been mid, Pendles hasn't played much and has been okay, Rozee hasnt played much and was good but not standout, ect.... You get the idea. All of these players somehow made it in over Treloar, the most consistent player of the year. Toby Greene has been mid, Tom Green has gone missing the last 6 weeks. Or was all this just who they were marking for or againts and all ended up in the 76 they talked about? How tf was Treloar not in there or is he just a lock atm. They'll probably still find a way to get Tom Stewart in their over Andrews like last year lol If they want this to actually be taken seriously, they need to have non media people do it.
This absolute nonsense about all club doctors having the best interests of the players is laughable every time i hear it. There are certain clubs - Port is one - whose players are secondary to the mission of winning the game. Theres just been way too much evidence that confirms this opinion. The AFL are also to blame. They have failed time and again to implement procedures that protect players unless theyve got legal action looming, and then they correct.
Why do other contact sports have medical imaging atbthe venue and the billion dollar sport of AFL doesn't?
Yeah, Drs are sacrosanct, it's a class* thing, you can't say anything against the Drs without a backlash. The Drs are club first, team second, player's at best third if you are a star player. Though, Melbourne was prepared to risk Christian Petracca because Melbourne's season was on the line. So, club first, Christian Petracca second the other day because of Melbourne's poor ladder position. Of course, a load of people will disagree with me, but it's just so obvious over the years that players in the main are expendable.
*Medical Drs have been held by society as elite members of society for centuries, and often beyond criticism. One of the reasons we fail to hold Drs to account the way we should, even though they make quite a few mistakes, is the system would fall down if we could prosecute them for everything we should. It would also produce a watershed in the court system we could not deal with. So many Drs should not even be practicing medicine, but the system allows them to flourish, because if we allow them to be prosecuted and struck off who would we have left, well definitely not enough Drs to go around, which we don't have now.
Medicine, Law and Theology use to be the big three degrees, with the most prestige.
Im a bombers support and Maynard played his absolute socks off. He was harder and tougher at the ball than any of the Melbourne players.
He id an absolute gun
When Laura Kane said Bont goes on the bench, I checked out..
Unfortunately she has no concept, I’m a hawks supporter but you have to give credit where credit is due, Bont is a superstar absolute gun.
Shout out to the Push Up Challenge. Highly recommend. Helped me finally get into a exercise routine.
Do they vote each week like coaches do
pick two teams and have them play each other
Wouldn't mind that. Like the nfl has 1st and 2nd team all pro teams named each year. Be fun if we had that. Also helps players boost their value
I can’t understand why AFL employees get a say.
You know who's team doesn't leak a ton of goals? The Swans. You know who's backline leaks a ton of goals? Everyone else. This AA teams backline should be stacked with Swans. We mostly score from our back half!
Fremantle is better.
@@afez2752 The Swans belted Freo. What are you on about?
None of the WB players should aspire to be All Australian as Bevo dropsplayers from the team if they play well. The latest victim is Riley Garcia: over 20 possessions a game, 5 goal assists, lots of tackles and high efficacy in defense and BAM! He is replaced with an incompetent rookie. Caleb Poulter and Oskar Baker were also victims. When Bevo placed turn-over specialist Harvey Gallagher on Nick Daicos, the coach identified himself as unqualified.
Yeah, Drs are sacrosanct, it's a class* thing, you can't say anything against the Drs without a backlash. The Drs are club first, team second, player's at best third if you are a star player. Though, Melbourne was prepared to risk Christian Petracca because Melbourne's season was on the line. So, club first, Christian Petracca second the other day because of Melbourne's poor ladder position. Of course, a load of people will disagree with me, but it's just so obvious over the years that players in the main are expendable.
*Medical Drs have been held by society as elite members of society for centuries, and often beyond criticism. One of the reasons we fail to hold Drs to account the way we should, even though they make quite a few mistakes, is the system would fall down if we could prosecute them for everything we should. It would also produce a watershed in the court system we could not deal with. So many Drs should not even be practicing medicine, but the system allows them to flourish, because if we allow them to be prosecuted and struck off who would we have left, well definitely not enough Drs to go around, which we don't have now.
Medicine, Law and Theology use to be the big three degrees, with the most prestige.
Nic Martin most overrated player in the comp
He's literally what people think Daicos is. Kick ins, no contested disposals, no tackles, easy touches
As corn said: “fake good kick”
As an Essendon supporter, I agree that he is very overrated as a "defender". Way too many cheap possessions, and not that damaging coming out of defense.
However, on a wing, or even as a half forward, he is underrated.
Durham upthere
For a mid season draftee he has been better than most in regards of expectations. He has some flaws at the moment but he is still young and only time will tell where he sits. Essendon are better with him in the team.
Boring as segment
Bring back kingy and Kane
Maynard calling himself a good bloke doesn't make him a good bloke. He snipes players extremely often, plays with an "edge" that usually ends up with a player left behind in pain.
This is blatantly incorrect. Name the number of times he has been sent to the tribunal for rough conduct and been found guilty? If you dislike the bloke that's fair enough but if you don't know him on a personal level you have no known way to quantify his character as good or bad besides what you see for 1 hour a week on a TV screen.
@@breadstav4193 Finally someone else with some sense. I'm so sick of the vitriol thrown at Maynard for literally no reason. Seeing shit like 'sniper', 'dog' and 'dirty player' is getting tiresome. He's actually one of the fairest players in the competition, oppo supporters are just letting their jealousy show because he plays harder and with more passion than anyone in their own team.
@@lukekillender3695 'literally no reason'. Cmon how one eyed do you have to be. Blokes like Dangerfield play at 100 miles an hour like Maynard but don't end up consistently sniping and playing the man instead of the ball.
@@OliverHumphris Funny you should mention Dangerfield, who has actually been cited more than Maynard has. You've made my point for me.
@OliverHumphris Let's define sniping as hitting someone off ball or from the back during a marking contest. When has he done that?
Maynard should be in jail for assault for what he did to Brayshaw. Instead he got protection from the AFL so he could play in a ‘fairytale’ premiership.