Did you ever thing to turn it around? You have the hitch laying on the ground , and you back on to it. When you’re rear tires are over the trailer axle it should be balanced and you left the hitch onto the ball , and by doing that your front wheels now come off the ground. Your wheels will be hanging in the air , it your hitch that will be holding up the frame. It’s a little more complicated, you will a piece of snowmobile, track on the rams so your trailer doesn’t run away because it’s not tied to anything This is how we did it years ago with the old dune buggies, the front wheels would just hang down
@@ronpopma8900 the problem solved is the front carrier. The 4wd front is too heavy on a UTV to just ride the bar. The frame tubing will bend on the rzr. Buggies weight was offset with the motor being behind the rear axle. The reason why they wheelie so easy. I have another version we are looking into to possibly delete the slider but we want to keep all the small storage benefits.
A couple of questions 1. With the added wheel bump in the front for loading, what keeps the wheels from popping out of the cradle prematurely when backing off the trailer? 2. The slider works great, but how does it perform after you’ve driven in a rain/snowstorm or a simple dusty road where loose dirt, gravel and sand build up on the slider. Does it still slide easily, or will the cradle bind up and not move or require more force to move it? 3. Any difference in function with different terrains (facing uphill or downhill, sloped off to one side)? 4. Anyway to attach a second trailer so friends/family don’t have to take 2 vehicles? Thanks Very nice idea, great for pulling behind my 5th wheel.
You keep the straps on when in reverse. The slider works fine when its dusty just jumps a little more. We keep paper towels and wipe, its mainly to extend the life of the plastic. Any trailer off camber when loading can make your drive wheels slip on metal ramps. I Have had the problem many times in the mountains with other setups. . If you have a full width vehicle there is less room for error but if you are at 64" if you're end up parked at a slight angle it's no big deal. I would personally not double tow behind a non 5th wheel because of wobble. .
Awesome! I was looking at building the exact same thing but instead of the slide was trying to do a drop set up. I wish I would have seen this first. You could put a lock pin or sliding tube clamp stop to limit forward travel of the front slide tray. Assuming same machine is always carried on it you k ow where you want it to stop. Also if you spray the slides with waxoil it is very slick for metal on metal and after about a week sets up firm enough as to not pick up dirt like other lubricants. I ended up building a gear rail trailer that collapses width wise. Will upload video shortly.
Wow your trailer is crazy. I hope it works out. Do you have the sliding parts pinable? I bet you paid more than you thought for what seems like minimal parts. I know I did. I looked into doing trolley casters and such but it was going to raise my price tag 500 dollars. And I worried about my bearings and bare metal sitting outside.
@@ThinkBuildTest mine went from being something sellable to just a project to prove to myself it could be done. You’re right, the supplies add up extremely fast! Used right and left hand threaded rod and a sprocket setup to link them the first time. Threaded rod doesn’t like repetitive higher speed turning and it only worked a few times before knurling up. All said and done we sold the sxs for a jeep due to my youngest having asthma. Miss it.. plan is to give this away to a friend that will be putting lock pins in for his machine width. I think you guys will have a huge hit with that. If you want help promoting it I know the SXS blog guys well and could set you up to get one to them to show.
@@CDFJCB I met them at Waynoka a month ago but didn't show them because I didn't want to just use them the first time we met. But I do hope to get to be in there network of friends one day. If you mentioned the trailer that would be very cool of you.
@@ThinkBuildTest Not yet. I’ll be seeing Doug this week or next for a skid steer for their track and to move downed machines. I can mention your trailers to them. Would you be willing to give them one to try or use as a giveaway? After todays race release they should be picking up even more viewers. Could also bring to the spring races to try getting visibility.
i see a couple of point of failure , mind you , i haven't rnd it , its always important to see how much abuse these trailers can take with weight on them. the long beam or tube that holds the front tires , when bouncing or taking a massive drop could snap . as these type of trailers are going to be used offroad , mountains , rugged , dips etc. 2nd is the front catch can have a second layer to it so you can add the strap to it , adding security grooves or lock in place cuts/welds will make it you can change where the strap will lock into place. 3rd i didnt see it in the video add a place to hide or store the ramps in the frame or back of the trailer that allows each access and removal of them . 4th , add optional accessory underneath where you can store a small shovel. 5. consider making a dual axle setup for stronger support. 5th great job on the trailer
Thanks for the suggestions! We tried to find the best of keeping it light, simple, and in scope! There is always something else and everyone has their items that are more important.
You could use longer ramps but it is more to have to fit in a space. I really like the small ramps they are light and easy to store. Adjusting the hitch height is the best way to keep every thing minimal and that was the goal of our build for our needs.
This obviously varies by machine, but I’d be curious to know what the loaded hitch weight is on these or what percent of the load is transferred to the hitch.
We used harbor freight ramps and cut them in half then welded some pins on the end to hold them in place. The manufacturer is building thier own. pagedistribution.com/
With the front stops if you are watching your tires you will notice before they climb to far. Maybe I will capture that test in a video. Good comment we warn against using any 4wd in the first load video. Just incase it doesn't disengage quick enough.
@@ThinkBuildTest Put the straps on the front first? If you have a brain fart and roll over the end or back up and drop off the front it's going to ruin your whole day.
Enclosed are like 10k r n... I definitely didn't ever want it to be that expensive but JB reality is in full force they are out to kill small businesses in this country we can't compete.
@@ThinkBuildTest You should consider selling plans. I really like your content… saw your vid searching utv hauling options, but I see you have a lot more here. Subscribed!
@@Gopher7 I made prints like I am use to in the aircraft industry. With the videos they maybe readable. Wouldn't know what to charge. Thanks for the Sub!
Not at all the rzr becomes part of the frame rigidity when you strap all 4 tires down. We have a cumulative 20,000 miles on these trailers and they pull great. The long wheel base keeps them straight.
You see the amount of flex in the front frame when they load the RZR on it i can see the tube getting stuck on the other tube that slides. Also with a lot of load miles I can see welds and frame material breaking. Lot of people don't realize how much force there is when something bouncing up and down on something for hours.
Enjoy your build videos, wanted to ask permission to copy part of your design for my own build. I am wanting to copy most of your design with a few changes I have thought of as upgrades as a new trailer for my RZR RS1, it sits currently 75 inches wide with the new 42inch tires, and I've not been able to use my old trailer due to the new width with the portals.
I cannot give you permission to sell or have one commissioned, but what you do with your own hands for your own use I have no argument. I think you with find the time and labor it would make it worth purchasing. Sales are on the way soon.
@@williamhustonrn6160 sorry the Manufacturer owns the selling process his website will have all the information soon. He is offering different package levels.
Go to my channel and watch the trailer in my house video!! It breaks apart and can fit in your garage or through a fence gate. It's great for homeowners associations that don't want a trailer in front of your house.
Longer ramps or a self storing ramp will ne way better safer and solve the hitting problem. You want your truck and trailer level when loaded and pulling the trailer. So change ball height is not a good idea. Cable tie down nice idea but really a waste to me . You have nice strong steel where the wheel lock in i would just tie to them. Only 2 point attachment to fail not 6 per wheel.
Its a super rough time to start a mfg business. As other trailer mfg run out of there old stock their prices are rising also. Steel is up almost 3X in 2 years. Shipping costs are outrageous with fuel up. I really wanted these to be affordable for everyone but suppliers won't set up long term contracts because they can't guarantee a price. Its not the America we knew before 2020. With the housing markets skyrocketing it can still be a savings over buying a house with more real estate if you calculate the cost per square footage to store a trailer.
We have unloading on our first version trailer video check it out. Also there is an unload on our weights video. It is the same concept you just have to keep the tires strapped down.
All trailer prices are up right now. Steel is through the roof. It could save someone the price of selling and buying for a new home to have the space to store a trailer. That could cost tens of thousands. I would have loved to sell them at prices 3 years ago but this is the market we live in. There is a reason that the latest sxs are upto 50k.
Four times the price of a normal trailer and four times the tongue weight for a given load, a long ass single beam to get bent so the trundle doesn't travel clean the first time you have even a minor fender-bender or grandma backs into it, and half the time spent talking about loading advantages which don't exist or tie down advantages instead of the speed/ease of breakdown. You're selling way out of your wheelhouse in this video and almost anyone who can afford or needs a trailer is having a chuckle. People who can store a sxs can store a sxs on a trailer in about the same space, you're solving a problem that doesn't actually exist for 99% of consumers.
@@ThinkBuildTest No problem. I appreciate hard work and engineering. Considering the increased tongue weight, the wheel load is quite low and the departure angle and tongue breakover are probably improved, I could see this being marketed with larger floatation tires as a mover for much rougher or muddier terrain as a useful niche. Given that you are specializing what is a generalized piece of equipment in the average platform trailer, play to your strengths. Also, find a way to hang the ramps off the central beam or tongue or something, telling the customer to just bring them to the vehicle and find alternate storage makes it feel like a critical component to the loading and unloading is totally an afterthought. GL
Why not use a D-ring instead of sketchy looking cable
Cables still going strong! We are a test channel its what we do!
That a great trailer. You have seriously improved on the old buggy t trailers of old. Hope y’all make millions.
Thanks! I Will take it!
Great job guys way to think outside the box
Thanks!
Did you ever thing to turn it around?
You have the hitch laying on the ground , and you back on to it. When you’re rear tires are over the trailer axle it should be balanced and you left the hitch onto the ball , and by doing that your front wheels now come off the ground.
Your wheels will be hanging in the air , it your hitch that will be holding up the frame.
It’s a little more complicated, you will a piece of snowmobile, track on the rams so your trailer doesn’t run away because it’s not tied to anything
This is how we did it years ago with the old dune buggies, the front wheels would just hang down
@@ronpopma8900 the problem solved is the front carrier. The 4wd front is too heavy on a UTV to just ride the bar. The frame tubing will bend on the rzr. Buggies weight was offset with the motor being behind the rear axle. The reason why they wheelie so easy. I have another version we are looking into to possibly delete the slider but we want to keep all the small storage benefits.
@@ronpopma8900 thanks for your comment we appreciate your thoughts. Check out version 3 we created where we hook lift the bar!
A couple of questions
1. With the added wheel bump in the front for loading, what keeps the wheels from popping out of the cradle prematurely when backing off the trailer?
2. The slider works great, but how does it perform after you’ve driven in a rain/snowstorm or a simple dusty road where loose dirt, gravel and sand build up on the slider. Does it still slide easily, or will the cradle bind up and not move or require more force to move it?
3. Any difference in function with different terrains (facing uphill or downhill, sloped off to one side)?
4. Anyway to attach a second trailer so friends/family don’t have to take 2 vehicles?
Thanks
Very nice idea, great for pulling behind my 5th wheel.
You keep the straps on when in reverse. The slider works fine when its dusty just jumps a little more. We keep paper towels and wipe, its mainly to extend the life of the plastic. Any trailer off camber when loading can make your drive wheels slip on metal ramps. I Have had the problem many times in the mountains with other setups. . If you have a full width vehicle there is less room for error but if you are at 64" if you're end up parked at a slight angle it's no big deal. I would personally not double tow behind a non 5th wheel because of wobble. .
Awesome! I was looking at building the exact same thing but instead of the slide was trying to do a drop set up. I wish I would have seen this first. You could put a lock pin or sliding tube clamp stop to limit forward travel of the front slide tray. Assuming same machine is always carried on it you k ow where you want it to stop. Also if you spray the slides with waxoil it is very slick for metal on metal and after about a week sets up firm enough as to not pick up dirt like other lubricants. I ended up building a gear rail trailer that collapses width wise. Will upload video shortly.
Wow your trailer is crazy. I hope it works out. Do you have the sliding parts pinable? I bet you paid more than you thought for what seems like minimal parts. I know I did. I looked into doing trolley casters and such but it was going to raise my price tag 500 dollars. And I worried about my bearings and bare metal sitting outside.
@@ThinkBuildTest mine went from being something sellable to just a project to prove to myself it could be done. You’re right, the supplies add up extremely fast! Used right and left hand threaded rod and a sprocket setup to link them the first time. Threaded rod doesn’t like repetitive higher speed turning and it only worked a few times before knurling up. All said and done we sold the sxs for a jeep due to my youngest having asthma. Miss it.. plan is to give this away to a friend that will be putting lock pins in for his machine width.
I think you guys will have a huge hit with that. If you want help promoting it I know the SXS blog guys well and could set you up to get one to them to show.
@@CDFJCB I met them at Waynoka a month ago but didn't show them because I didn't want to just use them the first time we met. But I do hope to get to be in there network of friends one day. If you mentioned the trailer that would be very cool of you.
Hey man sxsblog ever see these?
@@ThinkBuildTest Not yet. I’ll be seeing Doug this week or next for a skid steer for their track and to move downed machines. I can mention your trailers to them. Would you be willing to give them one to try or use as a giveaway? After todays race release they should be picking up even more viewers.
Could also bring to the spring races to try getting visibility.
i see a couple of point of failure , mind you , i haven't rnd it ,
its always important to see how much abuse these trailers can take with weight on them. the long
beam or tube that holds the front tires , when bouncing or taking a massive drop could snap . as these
type of trailers are going to be used offroad , mountains , rugged , dips etc. 2nd is the front catch can have a second layer to it so you can add the strap to it , adding security grooves or lock in place cuts/welds will make it you can change where the strap will lock into place. 3rd i didnt see it in the video add a place to hide or store the ramps in the frame or back of the trailer that allows each access and removal of them . 4th , add optional accessory underneath where you can store a small shovel. 5. consider making a dual axle setup for stronger support.
5th great job on the trailer
Thanks for the suggestions! We tried to find the best of keeping it light, simple, and in scope! There is always something else and everyone has their items that are more important.
Birds dive bomb at 49 secs LOL.
Great design!
Thank you!
Longer ramps will solve your clearance issues
Great idea!
Would longer ramps change that approach angle enough for lower clearance rigs?
You could use longer ramps but it is more to have to fit in a space. I really like the small ramps they are light and easy to store. Adjusting the hitch height is the best way to keep every thing minimal and that was the goal of our build for our needs.
Will a 72" -77" machine fit??
76"
Ummm yeah, I need one of these
Hide and Glide for sale at pagedistribution.com/
What did you guys use for the front to slide on square tubing?
Its all in the build videos.
This obviously varies by machine, but I’d be curious to know what the loaded hitch weight is on these or what percent of the load is transferred to the hitch.
There is a video on my channel that tells the weights
We have a hitch ball with a scale now. Check out our latest loads!
What size and where did you guys get those ramps from? They look light in wight.
We used harbor freight ramps and cut them in half then welded some pins on the end to hold them in place. The manufacturer is building thier own. pagedistribution.com/
@@ThinkBuildTest thank you dude, hey those trailers look really good 👍
@@gustavoavina3136 Thank you! We appreciate your support.
What happens if you Accidentally leave it in 4 wheel Drive, is the front going to drive over the stop?
With the front stops if you are watching your tires you will notice before they climb to far. Maybe I will capture that test in a video. Good comment we warn against using any 4wd in the first load video. Just incase it doesn't disengage quick enough.
@@ThinkBuildTest Put the straps on the front first? If you have a brain fart and roll over the end or back up and drop off the front it's going to ruin your whole day.
We did a video for the 4wd on our channel.
Nice concept but good lord that's expensive. If I were to spend that much I would get an enclosed trailer
Enclosed are like 10k r n... I definitely didn't ever want it to be that expensive but JB reality is in full force they are out to kill small businesses in this country we can't compete.
Do you sell build plans?
Full build is on this channel.
@@ThinkBuildTest You should consider selling plans.
I really like your content… saw your vid searching utv hauling options, but I see you have a lot more here. Subscribed!
@@Gopher7 I made prints like I am use to in the aircraft industry. With the videos they maybe readable. Wouldn't know what to charge. Thanks for the Sub!
Sooooo. The front sliding section never locks or pins into position?
Good straps in the back and its not needed. You could put a saftey chane from the rzr to the trailer if you needed extra peice of mind.
And a wonder how they handled going down the road is it going to be a flimsy setup or wiggle back and forth
Not at all the rzr becomes part of the frame rigidity when you strap all 4 tires down. We have a cumulative 20,000 miles on these trailers and they pull great. The long wheel base keeps them straight.
Check out our Road test video.
You see the amount of flex in the front frame when they load the RZR on it i can see the tube getting stuck on the other tube that slides. Also with a lot of load miles I can see welds and frame material breaking. Lot of people don't realize how much force there is when something bouncing up and down on something for hours.
What is the plastic sliding material?
1/4 inch HDPE
How dose it work when you unload !
Watch the first version video on the channel. We just leave the front tires strapped.
Enjoy your build videos, wanted to ask permission to copy part of your design for my own build. I am wanting to copy most of your design with a few changes I have thought of as upgrades as a new trailer for my RZR RS1, it sits currently 75 inches wide with the new 42inch tires, and I've not been able to use my old trailer due to the new width with the portals.
I cannot give you permission to sell or have one commissioned, but what you do with your own hands for your own use I have no argument. I think you with find the time and labor it would make it worth purchasing. Sales are on the way soon.
@@ThinkBuildTest any estimate on the prices?
@@williamhustonrn6160 sorry the Manufacturer owns the selling process his website will have all the information soon. He is offering different package levels.
Why is this better then a normal utility trailer? Genuinely curious
Go to my channel and watch the trailer in my house video!! It breaks apart and can fit in your garage or through a fence gate. It's great for homeowners associations that don't want a trailer in front of your house.
So is this available for purchase?
Hide and Glide for sale at pagedistribution.com/
You're over-thinking it. Just make the loading ramps about 12" longer and the problem is solved
I agree with this. longer ramps or even a curved ramp will get your rear end up sooner and give you more clearance
You can also have a pivoting pitch hitch. Made one and it changed the approach angle a lot.
Great ideas!
When are they going to be taking orders
Message us on our Facebook page and stay tuned in to the channel for updates.
Hide and Glide for sale at pagedistribution.com/
So where do you buy something like this
Updates on sales coming soon.
Hide and Glide for sale at pagedistribution.com/
Longer ramps or a self storing ramp will ne way better safer and solve the hitting problem. You want your truck and trailer level when loaded and pulling the trailer. So change ball height is not a good idea. Cable tie down nice idea but really a waste to me . You have nice strong steel where the wheel lock in i would just tie to them. Only 2 point attachment to fail not 6 per wheel.
Noted!
How much boys?
Hide and Glide for sale at pagedistribution.com/
I can’t find your contact info on your website…
Reach out on Facebook messenger to our page think build test. How can we help you?
@@ThinkBuildTest I would like to know the weight of the trailer and also wait time for a trailer with suspension and brakes. Thanks
Here is a contact page for the manufacturer. www.pagetrailers.com/contact
Nice but way to expensive
Its a super rough time to start a mfg business. As other trailer mfg run out of there old stock their prices are rising also. Steel is up almost 3X in 2 years. Shipping costs are outrageous with fuel up. I really wanted these to be affordable for everyone but suppliers won't set up long term contracts because they can't guarantee a price. Its not the America we knew before 2020. With the housing markets skyrocketing it can still be a savings over buying a house with more real estate if you calculate the cost per square footage to store a trailer.
@@ThinkBuildTest so what would it cost delivered I’m interested but 7k that’s out of my price range
@@lonslo9128 what area do you live in? We are going to be working out shipping to dealers to reduce the shipping costs buy shipping bulk.
@@ThinkBuildTest Phoenix Arizona
@@lonslo9128 Yes Phoenix is one of our target areas we want to get into a dealership with.
You showed loading but not unloading!!!
We have unloading on our first version trailer video check it out. Also there is an unload on our weights video. It is the same concept you just have to keep the tires strapped down.
You guys are dreaming on price.... WAY TOO EXPENSIVE
All trailer prices are up right now. Steel is through the roof. It could save someone the price of selling and buying for a new home to have the space to store a trailer. That could cost tens of thousands. I would have loved to sell them at prices 3 years ago but this is the market we live in. There is a reason that the latest sxs are upto 50k.
Terrible idea - just buy a used trailer -
Your ideas are all the best ones! What a stud!
Four times the price of a normal trailer and four times the tongue weight for a given load, a long ass single beam to get bent so the trundle doesn't travel clean the first time you have even a minor fender-bender or grandma backs into it, and half the time spent talking about loading advantages which don't exist or tie down advantages instead of the speed/ease of breakdown. You're selling way out of your wheelhouse in this video and almost anyone who can afford or needs a trailer is having a chuckle. People who can store a sxs can store a sxs on a trailer in about the same space, you're solving a problem that doesn't actually exist for 99% of consumers.
Thanks for your opinion.
@@ThinkBuildTest No problem. I appreciate hard work and engineering. Considering the increased tongue weight, the wheel load is quite low and the departure angle and tongue breakover are probably improved, I could see this being marketed with larger floatation tires as a mover for much rougher or muddier terrain as a useful niche. Given that you are specializing what is a generalized piece of equipment in the average platform trailer, play to your strengths. Also, find a way to hang the ramps off the central beam or tongue or something, telling the customer to just bring them to the vehicle and find alternate storage makes it feel like a critical component to the loading and unloading is totally an afterthought. GL
@@JTillotson80 thanks for your thoughts.
Damn rite